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RPGM game franchise made by a japanese man known as Toro, based on Fairy Tales, Literacy's classic and some Historical figures.
can be found on steam and DLsite
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Kino game
Kino fans
Kino threads
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why did she do it
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>>4012732
this guy has been doing this for YEARS
sad
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>>4012783
Because she's based.
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forgive me for my absence all week. I've found myself a copy of VX ACE that fell from a pirate ship, and have spent my time messing around with the scripting and events. I'm surprised at how much you can do with the engine despite the lack of tutorials.

also, I'm done writing Dodo's pie story by Monday, Damn me to hell if I'm not.
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>>4011186
Here
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>>4012732
I have played two games in this pic and they were great. I am about to start another in the pic
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>>4012988
based game enjoyer
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>>4013017
why are her hands blushing?
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thread got deleted, but still got enough Alices to be satisfied.

anyways, to kindle some life in this ghost town, what kind of mechanic would you like to see featured in a "BSlike" if i ever were to make one in the future?
Don't hesitate if your idea sounds dumb, I'd be more than happy to hear it!
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>>4013046
Having an actual party instead of one off boss summons
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>>4013046
Put in a LoR style stagger gauge
so I can see how a nonretard would implement it to replace my current one
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>>4013046
vr horror section
mandatory to see the true end
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>>4013046
I think it'd be cool if you could rape everyone
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>>4013076
leaf's true form is sexy
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I'll be damned to the bowels of hell if i don't finish dodo's pie story by monday, but not giving in to my bad habits is a tenuous strain.
I would be grateful if someone were to gaslight me so i don't drag myself back down to inaction and apathy. Dodo must have her Pie!
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This is just some extremely shitty porn game
Why did you trick me into playing this trash?
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>>4013176
>This is just some extremely shitty porn game
An extremely shitty porn game with lots of cool lore and mechanics, and some challenging fights.

>Why did you trick me into playing this trash?
You played it because you wanted to.
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This game might actually be good if it didn't have child porn in it
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>>4012727
at the 5/10 people only praise as a 10/10 due to the porn
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The child porn makes this game. I lose correcting the lolis.
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>>4013326
Wow, what a huge watermelon! Thanks, Node!
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Playing Red Hoods Woods for the first time, is there any strategy to this absolute nigger serpent or do I just have to keep trying until I get lucky?
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>>4013401
Just kill him? Red Hood isn't a hard game.
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>>4013407
But he confuses AND stuns me turn 1 before I can even move then just keeps doing that
Sometimes he waits until turn 2 but then I still just get stunlocked after that
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>>4013401
Yeah he was the most lethal enemy in the game for me. I think he got me like 3-4 times.
There might be something to the fight, but "not get unlucky and burst him down" was good enough for me.
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>>4013401
Do the other boss first? It's been a while, I don't remember for sure.
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Finally Done with the Dodo Pie story as requested by anon!

Here it is https://files.catbox.moe/krin8u.txt
Tell me what you think
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>>4013464
It's pretty good
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I give 10 years to toro for the next BS.
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>>4013682
I don't care much for rabbit whores.
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>>4013688
she's only for grimm unlike you, goatfucker Mabel.
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>>4013688
Then why would you reply?
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I'd like a little feedback on that dodo pie story, If you please.

Anyways, now that i no longer have anything binding me, I can now go on a schizo rant that i just made up but fully believe.
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Jack Parsons, Aleister Crowley, and even HP Lovecraft.
all of them either practice esotericism or have written about it in their works.
Now notice how they all get Jewish sex-demon wives who have taken an interest in them out of the blue either for their interests or their works...
Really makes you think, HMMmmm?
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>>4013734
>tfw no Mossad handler gf
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and speaking of Jack Parsons, he was one of the progenitors that would lead to the founding of NASA, and was highly influential in rocket science. and was also buddies with Mr. Crowley and the founder of Scientology.

once upon a time, he did a ritual called "Babalon working" with the aim of manifesting an individual incarnation of Babalon. With their final ritual took place in the Mojave Desert in late February 1946.
Marina Abramović, that witch bitch who hangs out with the top Elite and does spirit cooking/eating babies, was born exactly 9 months after Babalon Working.
9 months is roughly the length of human pregnancy, give or take a month.

Coincidence??? Mayhaps! or MayMayhaps NOT!
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>>4013736
*black trial handler gf
ftfy

now secret esoteric knowledge that might get me killed aside, what's your feedback on my dodo pie story?
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Drew a new one its a simpler idea because I have been reading a lot of Full Metal Deamon Muramasa trying to get other endings
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>>4013774
Based drawfren
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>just killed myself with self mutilation
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>>4013801
good job
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>>4013801
Fun fact, you can Grit through that. Mostly relevant for SL1 runs if you're doing specific strategies and ignoring the more easy options.
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>>4013734
I think this was mostly random, besides lovecraft was more like a "self-made" esoterist, he was mostly atheistic, but has his own dreams guiding him.
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>>4012783
Real answer: She got brainwashed by Prickett's song. Unwilling on both parties.
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>>4014051
while your assessment about dreams is correct, i must insist that dreams are a little more than just random nonsense. at least from my research when i was practicing lucid dreaming. sorry if i go on a schizo rant again, so forgive me for the oncoming wall of gibberish

As an example, I've had a dream once that warned of an incident a day prior of it happening, as well as some other odd dreams that seem to have hinted of foreshadowing. but nothing close to that specific dream which is far too much of a "coincidence" to be merely brushed off as a coincidence. one that has completely robbed me of my ability to lucid dream, hence i stopped.

if dreams can predict of future comings, then they can give insight or inspire people to go down certain paths or to bring upon certain ideas or inspirations for concepts that may already exist or are destined to exist through some means indescribable as of now. which may be evidence that we truly are the pawns of things beyond reason and rationalité.
which also might be why most prophets have usually had some weird dream or dream-like experience relating to the "divine", which has rippled into forming globe spanning theocracies for centuries to come.

and while I'd love to post of that specific dream to which I am referring too, its date, and the local news proving of said incident; that i must unfortunately withhold because of privacy reasons. so my source for that is Trust me bro.

>tldr: dreams are a focal point to get influenced by forces beyond you. and might have some predictive properties.
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>browser crashed just before i could make fun of Mabel's intellect and reasoning
alright alright, don't strike me down for making such a joke.
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>>4014067
Remember, she is everywhere, everytime.
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>>4014065
Nono, feel free to get schizo, I'm a x user after all.
I don't get what you said? You said that had a dream that predicted something but then say that it is just nonsense?
Besides this I invite you to share how you did lucid dreaming, always fun to hear it, for me it was always a problem doing it right.
Besides this I invite you to think a different way, people don't have ideas, but ideas have people, your mind is an antenna that "catches" ideas, this is why you might have a nice idea, don't actuate it and then later on find someone that actuated it.
The idea desired to be born, you didn't want to make it real, so it found someone else.
It's a completely different way of thinking from the current zeitgeist, so of course it might be strange.
Connected to our loving Lovecraft, I believe that he was in contact with various things trought his dreams, but due to his super atheistic-scared mindset he would see things in a bad way.
Basically imagine seeing Venus as the ancient saw it (many boobs etc) and he saw Shub niggurat etc for the other gods.
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>>4014069
i wish she'd help me with my gains instead of worsening my sanity and boiling me alive in this heat... uuuooooh nihilityyyyyyy!!!!

>>4014091
Oh nonono, to correct my possible mistake; I'm saying they aren't always nonsense and are sometimes intentional or prophetic!
that dream i was talking about was that example of a dream predicting a future event the day after.
To give a little more context, I wasn't able to sleep the following night and was awake for when the incident occurred. making that dream the last one i had per-incident. which makes it all the more legitimate in my eyes.

as for lucid dreaming, I have a guide for my method right here https://beyondtherabbithole.neocities.org/LucidDreamingGuide

and for lovecraft its a little more complicated, but my quick theory is the way the ancients perceived it was likely similar to how lovecraft describes his niggermen, or at the very least niggermen taking familiar forms (Like human/animal chimeras as a common trope) as to not make us go haywire. but because they had a limited scope or were shown things in a certain way, they simply described these forms from what they were accustomed to. or at least those are the official portrayals to these pagan proxies as to give the masses something familiar to worship and offer their children too. but it probably gets a little weirder. and that's just a brief summary of my "Proxy Idol" notion that i personally hold.
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forgot to mention, but that's an interesting way of interpreting ideas, and i like the analogy. but i would say it goes both ways, or three ways if you count outer beings meddling with our feeble human minds.
after all, i know for certain that conflicting truths can coexist.
real shame /x/ is such an unusable cesspit of larpers women druggies and glowies.
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>>4014096
Ah I see I'm speaking with an advanced schizo, truly takes one to find one.
I shall read that method and thy blog, then continue speaking properly.
Regarding lovecraft's perceptions if you see some oriental representations of deva and such you will find some quite strange things, while seeing them drawn might not be much, having to see them face to face would be quite different. So yeah, the other guys are strange on a whole other level.
>>4014097
yeah after the death of a certain old general I found no further use of x.
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>>4014097
>>4014096
I've given it a read, I saw that it took you quite a while to develop, why stop in the end?
The dream you had was prophetic, right? Means that you were doing a good job at dreaming useful things, right?
Besides I've just read that you are actually medically schizo? Some say that schizo is just misdiagnosis of some awareness of the other side, but I don't know myself.
Anyway I've read your idol theory, it is interesting, in general know that there was an actual babylonian and egyptian practice of creating statues (idols) of gods and to venerate them, give them food (not kids, just bread) and offer them beer etc, this was for the purpose of having the god be friendly and helpful.
This practice works so well that it was banned by the jews, greek christians and arabs (have no idol rule).
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>>4014130
I forgot to tell you, but my website's terribly outdated, especially the dream journal. and i have not worked on it for a while.
i began logging my dreams seriously sometime last year and continued up to a few months ago, its there i could see the distinction of my lucid dreams going from 1 every ~10 days to not having one for months despite my usual routine post-incident.
i have roughly 340 dreams logged, and about a dozen lucid dreams intermixed.
as for the spoiler it should be pretty obvious that I'm schizo, given my antics.
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>>4014388
I want to princess carry those dorks...
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>>4014062
>prickett just so happens to "accidentally" brainwash griffy to kill the one living liddell sister that grimm doesn't automatically kill in a boss fight
Suuure totally unintentional
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>>4014682
Grimm never fights or kills Alice Liddell and never meets her in game outside of G End.
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>>4014682
It's most likely TCO who saw that, and translated the song to "GO KILL DA LOLI"
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>>4014687
well yeah i was mainly referring to edith
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I didn't realize prayer rabbit is vernai's dad.
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Is Mabel's staircase speech being randomised a consequence of it happening outside the script?
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>>4014694
Maybe, alternatively she just likes to yap
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>>4014694
i think its less DEEPEST LORE and more Mabel being an impulsive wine auntie who can't help herself when it comes to drinking or ranting post-drinking.
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>>4014730
Is that kouma melty blood with white hair?
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>>4014746
Most likely the hunter class look
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>>4014827
Yeah i just realized that after hitting post...
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>>4014730
what must my workout routine be for me to lateral raise a 100+kg dodobird without a counterbalance?
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https://deltarune.com/rarecats/
>rarecats
bros... did toby fox play black souls?
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>>4012727
Which NPC says "we are many we are free"? I think its in the sequel.
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Lol have you seen the drama happening in W Place with a bunch of Furries?
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Is there anyone who's personality is noticebly different from the role they play? obviously the alices are but i'm trying to remember if any of grimm's kids in the little girls nightmare said anything about the role they're playing or if largely their personalities fit who they where supposed to be playing
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>>4014703
She's not old! She's a very fair lady.
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>>4014845
It's really hard to tell because for a lot of them the roles imprint on them and eventually become their personalities as seen in Winterbell, but off the top of my head, Dodo does actually know everything about what's happening (secret scene at the end of her and Shisha's quest), Bill isn't too happy about having to be "an incestuous faggot in drag", and arguably Lorina completely lacks the penchant for executions she's supposed to have and probably isn't a loli any more.
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>>4014845
Difficult to say, since the whole point is that the roles are put too much in place to the point most are have their true face and mask mixing.

On the top of my head, the Alices are obviously different from their true selves, the closest we have to someone who fit is Younger Sister who got Jubjub trashtalk/tsundere's tendencies, but Jubjub is also the one who let out her true personality the most, like being sad being stuck in there and having sense of motherhood toward Chick.
Bill know what he is, it saddens him a lot, "What do you want me to call that? A triple handicap?"
Lorina is much sadder and knowledeage in her true form on the way toward the true ending.
Tweedledee et Tweedledum are interesting because they don't at all.
The Hatter is... weird, because as usual what she says is nonsense, but here, it's a different kind of nonsense.


>>4014895
Dodo was right to call herself wise.
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>>4014895
>Dodo does actually know everything about what's happening (secret scene at the end of her and Shisha's quest
Sorry what?
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>>4014845
>Is there anyone who's personality is noticebly different from the role they play?
Pretty much everyone who plays a role other than your children. Some are more different than others. Prickett, Node, TCO, Jub, Bander, Jabber, Lorina. There's a few odd cases like Cheshire Cat, but her true role is really only the ending part of killing the Alices so it's still pretty different form how she normally acts. Hein as a conductor doesn't act too differently. Sho melted her role. And there's all the Kuti, Oyster shenanigans.

The real personality that is noticeably different from the role that no one mentioned is (You). Grimm has changed through the cycles and eventually stops playing the role he is meant to.
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>>4015039
If you have sex with her after you've gone through all the interactions of her visiting Shisha etc; you get a bonus scene of Grimm falling asleep and her talking to him in which it's made pretty clear she knows you'll be separated, so either she's aware she'll have to leave for Winterbell or possibly might even know about the efforts to make Grimm leave. I'd need to rewatch it now to make sure, but it is a really sweet scene and a rare instance of her breaking her clueless ditz act.
The children know a lot in general, really. There's the Tweedles taunting you about SEN, and Shisha's madnes death message is probably talking about how getting raped and put in the dungeon would have saved her from dying.
Speaking of which, I have to double check their dialogues but I think it might be implied that the three Nightmares abandon those roles when put in the dungeon and you keep the actorless bodies there, given how different they suddenly act there and how they're still playing Alice outside (and how Node has every reason to not want them there, especially Jabby).
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>>4015073
>you get a bonus scene of Grimm falling asleep and her talking to him in which it's made pretty clear she knows you'll be separated
Oh THAT scene. Gotcha.
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>>4015065
Train autist Hein was my favourite unexpected development. Speaking of Cheshire, it's neat that once GG is dead Node calls her by her real name, when I don't think anyone other than herself does so prior.
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>>4015065
Are all very interesting thanks for responding guys
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>>4015065
>Sho melted her role
Nta but I thought Sho was just discared as an actor?

>Grimm has changed through the cycles and eventually stops playing the role he is meant to.
Amazing what gaining back your old personality can do.
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>>4015092
>Nta but I thought Sho was just discared as an actor?
She melted her role. Could be figuratively, could be literally. Could also be both, Great Ones are famously bad at acting as humans while also being barely able to contain themselves.
>>4015081
>Train autist Hein
I'm glad as everything was falling apart, and Mabel and TCO were grabbing random shit from Elysium, that Hein somehow made a deal to be a train conductor in Wonderland. The absolute chad. I wonder if we'll get a cameo in DRH.
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>>4015092
> old personality
How'd that happen anyways? Did node fudge the mindwipe on the 65th cycle?
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>>4015106
>Could be figuratively, could be literally. Could also be both
I always thought it was figuratively... but who the fuck though it was a good idea to bring a Shoggot????
Answer, the same gal who though bringing multiple Great Ones or Outer Ones was one!

>>4015110
>How'd that happen anyways? Did node fudge the mindwipe on the 65th cycle?
Good question. It could be Prickett making TCO to pipe down, it could be GG making the whole theatre piping down the schizo, it could be Jubjub too.
It's a real mistery. Though for what it's worth, it seems like Grimm ISN'T supposed to keep memories, skills, spells and gear between NG+, if the start of the game and messages are of any indications.
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>>4014851
Fool, your telescope Isn't adjusted correctly!
let me correct it for you.
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>>4015369
>>4015372
Tsundere Feminist who deserve rape correction
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I just saw this on twitter about the war in W Place Should we get involved?
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>>4015408
>Should we get involved?
I think you should go back you bestial semi-human Xigger tourist.
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>>4015408
NYPA
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>>4013284
>beep boop, I'm a robot
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>>4015408
Go back
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>>4015501
need Alices...
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Where are you supposed to grind after beating the lust goat, Snow White, Rapunzel, and the Skeleton in the South?
I'm level 47.
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>>4015539
Buy the x2 attack ring with negative hitrate, equip the moonlight greatsword which cant miss and win
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>>4015539
Nvm. The rabbits. They were the answer.
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>>4015545
Level 78 now.
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>>4015539
>grinding
Anyway if you're insistent on beating your head against a wall instead of breaking the game with equipment you should be aware that after I think level 80 or somewhere close black souls become more cost efficient than levelling. Companions level a lot faster than you anyway.
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>>4015559
I wish bs1 told you this because i didn't bother leveling or using companions until i was trying to get the fairytale ending because i prioritized putting the souls into grimm
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>>4015562
>not progessing the heroine relationships in an Eroge
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>>4015559
I'd say 120, and if you choose the right locations, you get Black Souls BY leveling.
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>>4015573
Just checked. Mathematically speaking once you hit level 74 you should switch to tainted black souls.
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I sold my Kraken's tentacle. Is there a way to replace it?
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>>4015571
I was focused on progressing the bossfights and dungeon crawling...
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That damned frog stole my levels! Fake femcel shit
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>>4015582
Just go NG+
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>>4015644
>surronded by an ocean of skeletal corpses
>"hmm, i should fuck this"
Anon i...
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>>4015766
The frussy, anon.
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>>4015758
Leaf's Sister!
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>>4015769
frogs are not for fucking, they're for eating.
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how can i blame the black trial for this unbearable summer heat?
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>>4015782
>frogs are not for fucking
>posts fuckable frog
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>>4015785
such foul language, wash your mouth at this instant!
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>>4015799
Red boobies...
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>>4015799
Edgy whore
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>>4015799
Dogs only
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>unlock all requirements for ending A
>view it
>get all hotel scenes
>all bathing scenes
>all companion endings in reminiscence book
>can ask for the "your wife asplode" ring at any time
>everything is perfect
>
>do a few jobs for a cute avenger girl
>let her move in
>go home
>save on a new slot and enjoy the best soundtrack in the game
Probably the intended way to experience the endings.
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>>4015829
>cute avenger girl
>literally the devil
Anon...
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>>4015835
>pic
Technically... it's not her at all.

Also think of the children!
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>>4015835
I don't think any other soundtrack could adequately capture the, "Yeah, you probably wanted this to happen" feeling that should come with turning your home into an archdemon's abode.
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>"But you're not my mother?"
>"Ah."
boom
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>>4015835
Cool it with the antisemitic remarks
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>>4015840
BS2 mirroring this exact exchange when Red tells Mary "kids don't get to choose their parents" was kino.
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>>4015844
I never got this since christianity is a branch of judaism
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Ezwald is gone. I'm fucked.
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>>4015876
there's nothing christian in my drawing you Dodo, save for maybe the baphomet vessel shub has given the crusaders and their accusation.
but that depiction came much later by the occultist Éliphas Lévi.

modern Judaism is a rebranding of the Canaanite religions, since the Talmud was written in Babylon on 600CE, and is only loosely based on the old testament writings when you delve into it. there's entire segments dedicated towards rabbis coercing with demons to do their bidding as if they were practicing Solomonic magic or Kabbalah, as well as subverting their God or finding ways to bend the rules of the ten commandments.
even the symbolic flag of Israel is not the "star of david" as they claim, its the Star of Remphan.

do not make the distinction that Christianity has anything in common with modern Judaism besides both originating from the Abrahamic branch of theologies, outside their evangelical golems that they have carefully groomed over the centuries.
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>>4015876
its an american psycho reference you stump
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>>4016043
is that a loaf of bread or two large milk containers?
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>>4016062
A loaf of bread a container of milk and a stick of butter
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>>4016115
now that's a full breakfast meal!
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>>4016043
Doormouse was my favorite
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>>4016081
OMG A BUNNY AWW!!!
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I need to reach 12 pullups by the end of summer, Post your HOTTEST Alice to give me strength.
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>>4016214
What is wrong with you
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>>4016220
what isn't?
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i'm bored, any news on DRH?
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>>4016214
Keep it up and you're gonna make it bwo. I'm always doing 5 sets of 5 pull ups as part of my normal workout routine. It's a great exercise
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>>4016522
LMAO No
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>>4016522
Did ze anon ask for DRH on a fringe korean basket weaving forum?
>yes my lord! anon has asked for news about DRH
Delay eet.
>as you wish my lord.
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>>4016542
my strained back has yet to fully heal (fuck deadhangs) but after it does I'll continue my attempts at reaching 12 pullups, the bare minimum fitness standard for a knight.
after that, I'm going weighted calisthenics + weightlifting.
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Black SoulsBros, my cards arrived
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>>4016605
Eeeeeeeeeh?!?!?! How is it that your table look so good?
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>>4016620
Thanks anon
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>>4016605
>not a tarot deck
how are you supposed to predict the future with that?
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>>4016638
A poker deck is functionally equivalent to the Minor Arcana.
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>>4016641
really? I never knew crippling gambling addicts practiced the minor Arcana.
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>>4016653
Such pretty eyes!
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>>4016653
What the fuck was his problem
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>>4016673
Fr*nch
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>>4016673
the black trail wrote him a C&D claiming his theater was antisemitic and demanded it to be shut down
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*black trial
too lazy to redo the post
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Been thinking about this scene. If the original Alice Liddell is actually brunette like the irl Alice, then who the fuck was the blonde in Ending G?
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>>4016906
>If the original Alice Liddell is actually brunette like the irl Alice
No one know who is that girl you showed, or the girl in the picture.
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>>4016970
>No one know who is that girl you showed
I feel like there's only a select few people who'd respond with a "this is my house" when you try to kick them out the Liddel house.
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>>4017010
The VN section is that weird, that's why.
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>>4016906
>then who the fuck was the blonde in Ending G?
Still actually Alice Pleasance Hargreaves Liddell, but her soul looks like book Alice for the same reason Lewis's soul pops out of Grimm looking like the White Knight; the play is still going and the shape of things is still influenced by it.
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sex with mollusks
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>>4012783
She's a reference to both Griffith (Berserk) and Alfred (Bloodborne).
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>>4016970
>or the girl in the picture.
She's from "Faces in the Fire", a poem that Lewis wrote.
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>>4017311
Really? I wouldn't have guessed!
But then, why is she there?...
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>>4017735
Well made!
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Not an rpg
>>>/v/
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>>4018221
Oooooooh!
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I don't remember this part in blacksouls
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>>4018235
My wife on the right
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>>4018237
She is too good for limbus
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was gone to experiment a little something terrible mistake, everything was in disrepair and infested with Indians
And though I've failed in my ambitions, it gave me inspiration to write a poem for Mabel.

the cosmic expanse and abyssal depths have quite a lot in common, Doesn't it?
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>>4017569
>But then, why is she there?...
Because the entire VN section is a Lewis Carroll backstory of sorts, and because an interpretation of the poem is that it talks about the love Lewis felt towards Alice Liddell (when she was younger.)
>The picture fadeth in its place;
>Amid the glow I seem to trace
>The shifting semblance of a face.
>
>'Tis now a little childish form,
>Red lips for kisses pouted warm,
>And elf-locks tangled in the storm.
>(...)
>Sunk is the last faint flickering blaze;
>The vision of departed days
>Is vanished even as I gaze.
>
>The pictures with their ruddy light
>Are changed to dust and ashes white,
>And I am left alone with night.
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>>4018660
So she isn't Alice, but a manifestation of Alice? I can buy that.

>Because the entire VN section is a Lewis Carroll backstory of sorts
I thought we all agreed that it was Lewis Carroll when he was brainwashed in the White Room?
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>>4018816
More precisely, a replica.
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Is there a release date yet
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>>4019046
Jeanne...
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>>4012727
I want replay the series again, starting with 1. Are there any mods available to spice things up? For gameplay or other things?
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>>4019116
Just play SL1, that'll spice things up alright.
You can also try the gook mod, but I'm not sure if it's translated.
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>>4019116
Challenge run: must ejaculate to every H-scene
Speedrun: raping bill
Niggerman mode: undecrypt game and replace all tilesets and character pngs with random images for the real 0 SEN experience
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>>4019118
I knew the games like the back of my hand years ago. But it's been so long I think I'd struggle with SL1. By the way, is Reds prequel game worth playing? Never did that one, might do it this time
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>>4019124
>By the way, is Reds prequel game worth playing?
Nta but yes. You get a lot of context and clues for future games, along with little details.
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>>4019124
>By the way, is Reds prequel game worth playing?
Not really. The game is dogshit, and the clues/little details are mostly nothingburgers. You'd get way more out of reading the Alice books lorewise, and have a lot more fun in the process.
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>>4019124
You get to see how much Red loves dog dick
And it only takes like 2~3 hours to clear so playing it just for the experience wouldnt take much
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>>4019132
Is there anyone itt who hasn't read the Alice books? For all the memes regarding BS2's required reading lists, that position is not optional if you care about the game at all. Plus, they continue to be culturally relevant, so you get an excellent return on your time investment. And they're fun, too.
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>>4019132
Jabberwock being there is neat.
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Randomly thought of Victoria...
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My wife is very cute
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How do we get this nigga to finish Reds game already? Rape?
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>>4020099
Jannu has obtained a new form that is stupidly badass. I'm happy.

I now want all the girls to have one as well. I'm now sad.
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>>4020099
>useless facemask
This spikes my autism
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>>4020182
Fate reference.
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You are now manually thinking of Node
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>>4020305
How did you know?
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>>4020305
Noded.
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>>4020305
bnuuy
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I love Alice
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Well, I love Mabel!!!
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>>4021054
she loves wine
>>4021060
me princess carrying Alice
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>>4021070
Wine is water
Human is water
therefore human is wine
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>>4021218
>inb4 she starts sucking people dry with a straw
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>>4021224
that would be horrifying in any of her niggerman forms. though, that makes for an interesting movie.
from the perspective of someone with low SEN you're seeing a cosmic horror sucking people dry in the most grotesque ways imaginable.
but from the perspective of our high SEN protagonist, he just sees maymay slurping people dry with a straw while giggling like an idiot.
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>>4021226
Theres art somewhere on pixiv of grimm humping the zero sen blob monsters. It was funny
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>>4021293
Nehee, I'm sure these human lusting sluts were asking for it.
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>>4021295
It was a gay porn trace meme
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>>4021226
oh nooo don't suck me mabel aiieeee
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I like mabel as a friend
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>>4021297
ah. so it was bill all along? Dohohohoo
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Fuck nolan, Give me a film crew and I'll give you Kino involving yog sucking people dry!
Hire me hollywood
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Are we going to acknowledge that mabel admitted that she doesn't actually get drunk or like wine and is just trying to feel out what mortals do
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>>4021311
>*hic* foolish human *Hic* I was *Hic* merely pretending *Hic* to be drunk *vomits*
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>>4021311
She got drunk once. Node's wine is special.
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>>4021318
getting drunk with tears from losing is not the same
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all that yogposting is reminding me to work on my second mabel poem.
Post you're Hottest Alices as a bon voyage to my treacherous journey, as I try to word out this great mabel poem i have in mind.
Trust me, This one will be great. perhaps better than my node one!
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I can't wait for Oppai Mabel 2.0 in BS3.
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All this time for Reds game when no one likes Red...
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>>4021474
Trvke, we should have gotten an elma game
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>>4021474
But I love Red?
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>>4021474
You're right, it's fucking absurd.
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>>4021311
She tries and that's what counts
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Did anyone ever figure out who the fuck Fleeing Knight Jim is supposed to be?
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Was trying out some stuff that works for May-may, turns out this outfit works best for her than Flan's
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>>4021560
Mifght be Albert Fish.
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I had a weird dream that Victoria was texting me, like stalking me. It was some holiday and she was mad I wasn't hanging out with her. I tried telling her I was with my family but she just started spamming me with porn until I asked if she wanted to hang out
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>>4021157
Kek Mable Rebel on the track
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>>4021559
Yeah, mabel is honestly the best old one in terms of trying to understand mortals because she doesn't schizo out like tco, isn't a toxic big sister or whatever jabberwock is doing, isn't leaf who just uses them as convinient toys, and isn't node who is lowkey okay with grimm losing because that means she gets to keep fucking him
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>>4021752
Jabberwock just wants Grimm to have fuck, what's wrong with that?
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>>4021760
Jabber wants grimm to be the worst version of himself because she's like leaf but corruption pilled instead of muh tragic hero LMAO pilled
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>>4021803
DORMOUSE DORMOUSE WAKE UP DOORMOUSE THEY HIT THE FUCKING GRAND GUIGNOL. THEY HIT THE FUCKING GRAND GUIGNOL
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>>4021821
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>>4021821
>>4021823
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You are now manually remembering that Node has a rape fetish
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Alice, why do my friends keep dying?
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>>4021970
why, Alice...
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>>4021949
She just like me...
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>>4021828
y so smelly
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>>4021949
Node insists upon herself. And i don't like it
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Good Night Alice
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>>4022295
Who's Green? Did they mean Grimm?
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I want to kiss Alice
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Odds of Red taking dog dick in her new game?
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>>4022583
Guaranteed.
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>>4022669
Will she like it?
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>>4022670
Of course. Why wouldn't she like it? She cums like crazy from the knots.
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>>4022704
>Why wouldn't she like it?
It might not be her dog. There are other dogs too.
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What was the snake god supposed to be? I'm a cthulu lorelet
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>>4022767
Yig, taking the form of Alice's brother Francis
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is boosting speed as high as you can and using rapunzel's ring (for the bonus action) really the optimal strat in BS1 or is there an even better "meta" option?
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>>4022904
Speed is definitely broken in BS1 and one of the things that make the game feel unbalanced (although SL1 is possible which is neat) but there are a few other similarly unbalanced things. Off the top of my head the easiest way to "break" the game is stacking 2 or 3 Dusk Crown Rings while using the +10 Sorcerer's Staff to negate the cost increase and then spamming your strongest spell.
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>>4022904
I went with the good ol' maxed out Sorcerer's Staff + a bunch of magic boosting rings to spam spells
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is there anything more hype in the series than starting a boss fight and this starts playing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qZgl2_tQ-s
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>>4023095
wtf...
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>>4023056
why christmas music though
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>>4022904
Fill all your accessory slots with the attack doubling ring and use moonlight greatsword which cant miss.
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>>4023056
I like Winterbell's soundtrack the most.
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>>4023095
Shota Grimm?
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>>4023095
She would've stopped being worst girl if she looked like this.
If only.
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>>4023322
Leaf would do that to her if Grimm asked nicely.
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>>4023328
Leaf truly is best girl...
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Starting Black Souls II (blind). Going to replay Ending D first.
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>>4023762
What were the devs smoking with this intro?
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>>4023781
I think I should just go for the starting zone's boss. Going off the beaten path got me chased by a guillotine and my little sister is sexually harassing me.
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>>4023805
You EXPLOOOOOOREd too much.
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>>4023806
Is that an in-joke?
I chose the explorer, lol. Got an attack ring that made the early enemies trivial. Tested out Self-Mutilation with the sporeshroom and got 400 souls per fight. Not bad, considering the starting rabbit gives only 38.
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>>4023806
That fight is way too much for a starter boss.
You get railroaded into that thing if you don't take the Master Key from Cheshire Cat?
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And where's the Prayer Master? 6200 Souls and not a thing to do with them.
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>>4023822
gotta kill a boss before the level up person appears, like DeS
also headhunting beast isn't actually that hard, just use Break whenever it charges an attack and also use charcoal pine resin and firebombs if you got any (the messages outside his arena legit tell you this)
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>>4023826
Firebomb was worthless in that fight.
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Got locked out of the next zone's fireplace. Need a key.
Birdbrain got me.
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>>4021561
I cleaned it up, now it's time to paint it
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>>4023832
thankfully the library bear sells keys for 1k a pop right from the start so you don't get the bs1 situation of scrounging around or grinding for them because you haven't got enough progress to buy em from greedy ass traitor rabbit
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>>4023839
K. Level 40 now. Partisan feels better than the Bunker sword, even though the latter pretty much makes losing impossible.
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>>4023854
There's another mechanic that's the actual core of BS2's battle gameplay but isn't too relevant until the late game, but one you should be aware of from the get go is that healing items don't consume your action, unlike BS1. The whole game is functionally designed around you being able to be at full HP every turn.
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>>4023928
I don't get it
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>>4023762
You HAVE played bs1 right? Nothing will make sense if you haven't
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>>4023946
Yeah, I got everything in 3 BS1 cycles.
I'm >>4015550
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>the name "Alice Liddell" has 12 letters
HOW DID I NOT NOTICE THIS UNTIL NOW???
TWELVE, ITS TWELVE AGAIN! THE LADY OF REVELATIONS, THE ZODIACS, THE ANTARCTIC TREATY, THE TRIBES OF ISRAEL, EVEN THE PHRASE "A perfect girl" ADDS UP TO TWELVE, AND NOW ALICE'S NAME AS WELL ADDS UP TO TWELVE, ITS ALL TWELVE!!!
ITS ALL TWEEEEEELVEEEEE!!!!!
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Making connections out of abitrary things is a sign of schizophrenia
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>>4024092
Schizophrenia is a sign of a working mind.
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Carnacki, he has lost his mind.
Send him his MEDICINE.
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I've beaten the Queen of Torture Tools. (Hard fight.)
Wish we'd gotten to talk to her.
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Why are my covenants dead?
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>>4024140
Oh you poor soul...
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>>4024137
>wish we gotten to talk to her
Does he know
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>>4024175
I remember her from BS1, but I mean in this game.
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>>4024164
Someone laughed at me when I entered the Mental Ward.
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>>4024092
does Alice love schizophrenics?
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>>4024140
>Why are my covenants dead?
Read this and you'll know why
https://archive.org/details/TheProtocolsOfTheLearnedEldersOfZion_201708
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>>4024189
Hows your SEN been?
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>>4024204
No
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>>4024223
Around 150-200.
Will lowering it bring them back?
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>>4024225
then what can i do to make her love me?
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>go back to mental ward to kill lady
>take shortcut back to her
>end up at dorothy's house
Trippy.
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Why is she dead?
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LD has a real location.
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>>4024233
Not on this cycle but just keep sen in the back of your mind.
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Don't spoil stuff for the new guy, figuring BS2 out on your own over the cycles is one of the best parts of it.
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Not sure, but I think I just won the game.
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>>4024384
EZ
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>Why are my covenants dead?
Never gets old.
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What is this choice...
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>the Steam achievement for killing Demon Victoria in BS1 only unlocks if it's the fight with her in Ending C, not the one if you sleep with her twice in the hotel
weird decision
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I'm on my second cycle. Gonna do low SEN, but what's the goal now? It seems Alice just doesn't exist and the universe won't let me free Mary.
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>>4024508
Nevermind. Just a few seconds of walking left and it's someone we know.
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>>4024508
Continue exploring and getting endings until you feel you've seen everything. If you ever feel lost you can always check Hints.txt in the game folder, I actually recommend reading up to the ailments section
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I didn't realize how much of a morale booster the Mental Ward's cheesy music was...
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>>4024508
Mostly figuring stuff out (there is a lot of stuff to figure out), exploring the map fully, sorting out quests, filling out the RoR, and getting endings C and all variations of A, D, and E in the process. B too at some point but it's a little difficult to run into on your own. Then once you're deep enough you'll probably figure out what's next on your own. I'd suggest avoiding the CD / AR for now since they're balanced for post base game endgame and a bit of a chore, so doing them now you might just run into a wall. It's also possible you run into the other endings before all the ones mentioned above, in which case I'd still suggest you also do the earlier ones at some point down the line for more story context. Cycles are really fast to get through once you're familiar with the game, easily half an hour or less.
One thing that the game does not tell you about in any way as far as I remember is that there is a secret, post first cycle exclusive boss that's triggered by fighting the Headhunting Beast with the Vorpal Sword.
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Would Mabel have gone as lost in her role as lil sister Alice if things had kept going? Or would she have found a way to leave the play within a cycle or two if Grimm hadn't gotten his shit together?
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>>4024625
"Mabel" in the Alice books is (like Mary Ann) a character only mentioned but never present. Mabel deliberately picked that as her role and stays where Wonderland intersects with her garden most of the time precisely to receive as little influence as possible from the play. She was still always planning to ditch that body down the line once it became too affected, which is why she willingly triggers the trap in Winterbell knowing it'll kill her. She acknowledges she could suffer the same fate as TCO and Shub and be completely consumed by her role but she's generally too smart to let it happen to her.
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I didn't realize just how slow, "Speak Harshly to Your Little Boy" was.
When the Dutchess sang it, I assumed each stanza was meant to be sung in four seconds.
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I need a little clarification, Drawing something for this sunday perhaps. given i haven't seen anyone draw something similar so i decided to do it myself.
exactly how many outer gods are present in the games specifically? there's Shub Nya and Yog. am i correct?
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>>4024659
>she's generally too smart
is what she tells herself every night
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>>4024749
Depending on your definition (and it gets very messy because Derleth and his consequences) Nodens, the Snake God, the actual deities the Nightmare trio correspond to, the God of Sleep and the Lake, and Azathoth as seen on the Moon could all count. Maybe more too. Debatably Mary as well.
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>>4024816
ah, no easy definition? darn. I want to focus on the biggest fishes in the pond just behind the great idiot. or say, the "Top dogs" who are directly or partially responsible for the game's central plot.
to keep it simple, I'm just including Yog Nya and Shub. if that's an accurate enough representation of the outer gods.
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>>4024815
Beautiful
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*nibble* *nibble* *nibble* *nibble*
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>>4024826
Those are definitely still the top dogs and the highest active forces seen in the Mythos. Refer to this thing Howard put in a letter once as a joke and people took too seriously, which is technically canon to BS too.
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>>4024826
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cool dodo fact: TCO doesn't stand for "The Crawling One", that's a common misconception. it actually stands for "The Cute One", because Alice is a Cute!
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>>4024846
>& our world
which one do the world elites worship in their private islands?
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>>4024863
Moloch
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i wonder who Moloch could be a proxy for?
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>>4024836
here's a BS version someone made a while back
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>>4024903
>maymay calling her father an idiot while proclaiming herself wise
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>>4024826
Outer Gods/Great Old Ones distinction doesn't really exist in the Black Souls universe. We have Outer Ones (外なる者 purposely changed from Outer God) and Great Ones, which are basically the same thing under all dialogue contexts; also Great Old Ones that's different, in our case which are retired Great Ones. The one time 'Outer God' is mentioned in dialogue by Mabel, I'm fairly certain is a mistranslation since the Japanese text says something different.

I suppose I understand why, but the autistic lorefag in me is not a big fan of using Mythos this way, and especially in this case when we have game lore that takes precedence.
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>>4024934
perhaps its a translation problem or barrier associated with moon runes? i heard it can get a little weird.
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>>4024940
>barrier associated with moon runes
Doubtful. 神 is God, so if Toro wanted Outer God he would've written 外なる神. It's very clear he intentionally changed it to Outer One. These distinctions between the BS universe and Mythos are important because if it was one to one it'd be shit writing.
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>>4024950
aha! Outer One!
tell that one anon who greentexted the word last week i pronounced it right.
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>>4024952
>tell that one anon who greentexted the word last week
I have no clue what you are talking about. But I haven't been making it to Schizo Sundays so maybe I'm missing out...?
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>>4024963
no need to worry, i simply mentioned that the outer ones were made for human men
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>>4024903
>azathoth
>aka the demiurge but lame
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>>4024903
>bandersnatch
>known to be cosmically wise
Either she's really good at acting or this is some kind of cosmic joke
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>>4024966
>>4024952
Do NOT stick your dick in horrors beyond your comprehension you will NOT have a good time you will be driven INSANE
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>>4024967
if we go by the Gnostic pantheon, azathoth would be more aligned with the Monad.
speaking of, i noticed the Gnostic pantheon and lovecraft's mythos share a few similarities. mostly with how there's a set of outer gods residing outside the boundaries of physical reality.
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>>4024976
>Do NOT stick your dick in horrors beyond your comprehension you will NOT have a good time you will be driven INSANE
my indomitable human spirit shall manifest a Super Tengen Toppa Giga Drill that will pierce the heavens and into the indifferent cruelty of the universe, unleashing its energy deep into it's womb.
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Lay the impossible Rape the UnRapeable
Row Row Fuck the power!
Touch the Untouchable Breed the UnBreedable
Row Row Fuck the power!
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staying up late has made me spew such inane ramblings befitting for a madman.
this won't look good in my portfolio...
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nevertheless, THE OUTER ONES ARE MADE FOR HUMAN MEN!!!
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Any news on the next releases, bros?
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>>4024903
If Mabel is so smart why can't she fucking win at chess???
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>>4024903
Beside the clear ESLisms I dislike how half assed this is with information, making no mention of things like Bandersnatch being the library's guard dog since the Tea Party or Jabberwock being the one who got Mary interested in fairy tales; or of Yog and Shub being divorced and TCO being Mary's step-dad.
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I am happy.
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>>4025036
Dead Red Hood is suppoedly coming out this year, though it's been delayed like 2 times during the past 6 or so years it's been in development.
BS2 prequel protagonized by Red Hood.
And then we'll get another side game protagonized by the 5 evil princesses from BS1 before (presumably) moving on to BS3. The only thing I remember reading about it is that it'll have MonHun-like monster parts that you use to craft equipment or something along those lines.
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>>4025204
Are sex scenes just gonna be Red getting raped or fucking other people? Wtf bros...imagine being a Redfag oh my word
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>>4025210
It's just gonna be her with Poro.
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>>4025211
Should've been a Leaf spin off that's parodying a high school romance anime and she's the main heroine
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Anyone have scans for the case itself from all sides?
I have my own set of cards but it was the original generic plastic case.
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I have discovered Deep Sea Knight.
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>>4025285
It seems time doesn't pass when you use the Throwing Knife.
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Who the hell thought this exercise in pure tedium needed a second phase with dubstep?
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>>4025285
ah, funny dubstep theme man
fun fact: he's "DLC" like Baphomet and her whole questline in BS1 was (I put DLC in quotes because it's really just content added in updates instead of being paid or anything)
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>>4025335
I may actually fall asleep before this fight ends.
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>>4025210
>imagine being a Redfag oh my word
I can't wait for the game to come out. I'm going to make so many screencaps and shove them in every redfag's face.
>>4025211
>It's just gonna be her with Poro
Nah-uh. It has already been confirmed that she can pay with her body for information or something like that.
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>>4025343
yeah he's pretty infamous for being a difficulty wall for newer players
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>>4025352
do most noobies just blitz into dlc1 without killing the whale first? i remember wasting 1/3rd of a year battling that whale, refusing to lvl up past 100 or switching my build because i was so much of a stubborn fool you might as well call me Captain Ahab.
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>>4025383
honestly I didn't even realize that dlc1 wasn't "base-game" content at first (didn't play until after the dlcs were released), it's not sectioned off anywhere near as obviously as dlc2 and dlc3 are
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>>4025326
Taking too long to beat him should be an early warning sign that you're doing combat wrong. To be fair he also unlocks one of the most important weapons for late game combat.
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>>4025210
You guys have to realize that toro is a NTRfag
Theres a reason why redhood is the main girl in all of his games
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>>4025469
Elma is the main girl of bs1 though
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Reminder that together with DRH Toro is also releasing a free slice of life game set between H End and H End about Red and Grimm living together.
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>>4025486
Why does he hate lorina
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>>4025472
feeding Elma souls right in front of her dad is another kind of NTR tho
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>>4025490
10x3 Alice curls
5x5 Alice overhead press
10x3 Alice bench presses
20x3 Alice deadlifts
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>>4025495
If you were smart you would hate her too.
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i hate lorina more than bill_
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>>4025383
I'm level 600-something.
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>>4025610
>600 by the time you fight deep sea knight
you might be a bit over-leveled for DLC1
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BROS, MY COUNTRY IS IN FIRE
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>>4025383
The Feesh isn't meant to be fought until you've really learned the game properly but it's also easy to cheese if you know how.
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>>4025610
>DLC1
I hope you found the Hotel scene.
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>>4025629
its not so bad now as it was a month prior.
>another +40c heatwave in a week
You've got to be fucking KIDDING MEEEEEEEE
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>>4025640
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2026/07/24/tens-of-thousands-flee-forest-wildfires-in-france-and-spain_6755802_4.html
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>>4025642
I now believe in Jewish space lasers and weather manipulation facilities
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>>4025383
>do most noobies just blitz into dlc1 without killing the whale first?
Yeah, since it's intended to be avoided. The game even hints several times at how you can get by it without fighting.
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>>4025637
>Hotel
This is legit kind of bullshit since aside from being hidden, it's best done if you're on a 0 SEN playthrough where you've already met Red, but the trigger itself requires having 100 SEN.
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>>4025482
I can't wait to spend more time with my faithful dog fucking incest rape victim wife.
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>>4025637
Never heard of it.
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>>4025617
I'm never fighting that guy again.
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>>4025629
>phoneposter
>esl
>europoor
triple handicap
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>>4025683
Then you better get every scene out of the octololi.
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>>4025687
>ELO eternal *ngloid
objectively worse because all the gayest nations and "people" inhabit the *gnlosphere
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>>4025498
One set till failure
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The best women are always married by the time you meet them.
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>>4025796
all-day cardio session with Alice until failure
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>>4025839
I have a Netori fetish. So this isn't a problem, it's a bonus.
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>>4025877
>cucking pumpkin bro
you should genuinely kill yourself and i mean it Literally.
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>>4025882
He's just a pumpkin in reality. And don't pretend you didn't fuck the Duchess, I know you did it.
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>>4025906
HOW DARE YOU! I'D NEVER STEAL THE GIRL OF A BROTHER! MY SHAFT IS A TOOL OF JUSTICE!
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>>4025915
Missing out.
See >>4025128.
Given the fact that she kills you, couldn't sex with her be considered a form of self-contained justice?
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>>4025930
Getting eaten is not the same as cucking you mythical dodobird. she was just ecstatic at how tasty i was
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In 1965, CIA gangster police BEAT ME BLOODY, dragged me IN CHAINS from Kennedy New York Airport! Since then I HIDE in forced jobless poverty, isolated alone in this low deadly niggertown old house. The brazen, deadly Gangster Police and niggerpuppet underlings spray me with POISON NERVE GAS from automobile exhausts and even lawnmowers! DEADLY ASSAULTS, even in my yard with knives, even bricks and stones, even DEADLY TOUCH TABIN or ELECTRIC SHOCK FLASHLIGHTS; even remote electronically controlled around-corners-projection of DEADLY TOUCH TARANTULA SPIDERS or even bloody-murder "accidents" to shut me up forever with a Sneak Undetectable Extermination! Even with trained parroting puppet assassins in MAXIMUM SECURITY INSANITY PRISON for writing these unforgivable TRUTHS!!

For AGES before Frankenstein Controls apeoidic niggers interbreedable with APES had no alphabet, not even NUMERALS! Slavery conspiracy over 300 years ago ideally tiny-brained apeoidic nigger Gangster government Eyesight TV Gangster spy cameras, Computer God New World Order DEGENERATION! When "gifted" with all Gangster Frankenstein controls, nigger deadly Gangster Parroting Puppet or niggertrained PROGRAMMED ROBOTS DEADLY APE-FRANKENSTEIN MACHINES!! Degenerative disease to ETERNAL Frankenstein slavery!! Overall plan through "ONE WORLD COMMUNISM" (Top Secret codeword!!!) meaning "worldwide absolutely helpless-and-hopeless simple-languaged mongrel-mulatto- apeoidic NIGGERS"!!
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>>4025482
The Red shilling must stop
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>>4025345
Holy fuck this can't be real
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How many of the characters' combat forms are their canonical appearances? I could understand the split in BS1, but with fog being phased out in place of SEN...
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>>4024846
Weirdly enough, All of this is wrong. There was no distinctions of ranks for eldritch gods in Lovecrafts original words. They were all just called "The Other Gods"(Not "Outer Gods").
The "Outer God", "Great Old One" category shit literally comes from an 80's TTRPG game.
Black Souls is actually way more accurate to lovecraft than 99% of derivative works by not following the arbitrary rankings.
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>>4025983
but being eaten is sex, you literally shoot a retarded amount of cum while inside her
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>>4025469
>You guys have to realize that toro is a NTRfag
He's japanese anon. That's like saying water is h2o
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>>4026050
>but being eaten is sex
If eating is sex then you'd be called Epstein (cuz you're fat)
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>vore
High sen hours
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>>4025906
>And don't pretend you didn't fuck the Duchess, I know you did it
Its funny that when i rrplay bs2 i don't generally view the scenes anymore, i just talk to covenants 3 times to upgrade them and leave.
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>>4026268
>High sen hours
ntranny shit is worse by a long shot. which is saying a lot given the former is snuff most of the time. perhaps i just hate SEAniggers and jeets spewing their deluded filth everywhere.
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>>4026048
It's complicated.
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>>4026049
It's all Derleth's fault. That said, you've got
>The earth has no longer any gods that are gods, and only the Other Ones from outer space hold sway on unremembered Kadath.
From Kadath and
>All that the Outer Ones wish of man is peace and non-molestation and an increasing intellectual rapport.
And many more similar mentions from Whisperer; and many many references to outer space all over Howard's works, making it no stretch at all to shorten "the Other Gods from outer space" to Outer Gods while functionally maintaining the same significance. The distinction between Cthulhu and his old gods and someone like Nyarlathotep is definitely there in Lovecraft's original stuff and it's the later works that muddy it by making squidface a much bigger shot than he's meant to be.
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>>4026332
Just answer me this: That covenant in the Mental Ward...
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>>4026336
It depends and isn't something you can properly address before the last area of the game, unfortunately. Incidentally this is one of the reason getting every Kuti interaction is important (even though I'm pretty sure the most important one isn't listed under her in the RoR).
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>>4026376
I still have her covenant in this cycle. Are there any that don't show up in her dialogue menu?
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>>4026385
There's nothing about her that's not unlocked via her menus*, but there is at least one interaction you haven't done yet which leads to more (arguably true of most characters, but truer for some more than others).
*there is actually one secret interaction she has that's niche as fuck and somewhat unlikely to ever come up in a normal run, but it's not really plot significant, it's more of a "I can't believe Toro added this" and it requires fairly atypical pathing during a cycle.
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>>4024659
>avoids being completely consumed by her role
>>falls for the grimm regardless
She has eyes but couldn't see Mt. Tai.
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Is Grimm a chuuni?
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>>4026427
Right, that's easily the worst thing any RPG has ever convinced me to do. I'm going to bleach this shit out of my brain.
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>>4026470
I'm pretty sure there's at least one usage of "like a puppet with it's strings cut" in the games, which is the marker of chuunige, so yes
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>>4026464
>falls for the grimm regardless
human men are simply irresistible even to the strongest of wills
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>>4026540
Nevermind. Just saw the actual scene being referenced.
I was going to put the poor thing out of her misery. Node just made it all infinitely worse.
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tfw no kindhearted and caring yet also utterly retarded titcow bird wife
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>>4026578
>spoiler
What do you mean?
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>>4026427
Which scene are we talking about her?
Her getting Node'd in the dungeon or her Progress 10 scene?
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>>4026000
>BS "fan" hasn't actually even played the games
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>>4026578
Keep the stuff they said there in mind. It will be important later.
>the poor thing
She kind of had it coming. Anyway off the top of my head there are two somewhat hidden and fairly important scenes unlocked by >rape and then losing the ensuing fight, against Jabberwock and Victoria respectively, and one if you completely fill out the dungeon, if you ever feel like it. Funnily enough I find BS2 encourages you to try out the fucked up shit in an attempt to understand what's happening a lot more than BS1, despite the plot there.
Can't remember if any other girls have relevant on rape lore beside one late game character who makes it very clear she wants you to.
Oh, right, another thing: something the way the game is coded is a bit questionable and some interactions only happen if you select >Back to exit a menu rather than pressing the back key. I think it's mostly just that one Mary interaction this is affected by.
And sometimes the game design is mean and you have stuff like Lorina's shop being unlocked early in her covenant but the scene it triggers not being accessible until you max it out.
>>4026707
The Node dungeon scene is the one I pushed anon towards, the P10 one is the niche one because I find it really hard to believe you'd ever get to the point where you beeline for Kuti in a cycle and put yourself through the DSK again while not having yet learned what triggers the madness.
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>>4026719
I've played them but that doesn't mean I've raped Red
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>>4026464
Everyone falling for grimm might be the weakest aspect of bs2. He's a stinky undead schizo, why is everyone throwing themselves at him
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>>4026764
>Why does everyone fall for the handcrafted sex toy that they went to Wonderland specifically to have sex with
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>>4026765
most outer ones left after the first few cylces because tco's whole "undead breeding program" was weird. Node and tco are outliers
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>>4026684
*nibble*
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>>4026764
Mary literally wrote him that way and GG wasn't helping matters. Everyone who didn't left was warped into loving him because that's how the play works.
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>>4026622
Go jail Kuti and get both scenes, then leave her alive in there until you see Node talking to her.
>>4026730
>She kind of had it coming.
No. She absolutely didn't.

BTW: The Wiki spoils like nothing else. You can't play it effectively without certain mechanics being spelled out, but you can't play any amount of this blind or nearly-so if you ever check the wiki for anything.
I'll be proud of my first cycle being blind, but I missed multiple zones and hadn't any way of figuring out Jubjub's role.
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>>4026816
>spoiler
There are multiple hints towards that to be fair.
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>>4026854
I thought they got eaten by a giant wild dog with a grudge.
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>>4026763
TEKELI-LI
TEKELI-LI
STOP TEMPTING ME-ALI-LI!
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I'd rather hang out with shoggies in Antarctica than remain in this burning forest awaiting the next 40c heatwave. fuck this summer and fuck the jews buying up the leftover property
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>>4026879
Entirely your fault for being born fr*nch, yuropean.
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>>4027207
iù not french! stop asking!
btw european series based around european fiction centered around european culture made by an honorary european (japanese)
go eat a McDodo or something.
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>>4026800
Still seems lame to give an lore explanation as to why all these girls keep falling for the dude that only speaks in "alice" "rape" and "kill". Grimm is largely a blankslate character, and other than having a tenacity for never giving up because this is a video game and players want to see it through, he doesn't have much going for him. Which is fine but the plot hinges on multiple characters being head over heels or possessive over him, tco and leaf being toxic malshapen forms of love, sure i get that and that works fine, but node falling in love and dedicating her life to grimm because... hes good at sex?? Atleast with mabel the player spends a good amount of time with her in the second dlc and third so we can get attatched. But Mabel legitamately falling in romantic love for grimm right at the end? I felt more of a bond of comradrie with mabel over anything else. I still think the game is great and its themeing largely works well, grimm himself is just not a very vocal protagonist and theres a lot about him thats left in the air for the player to inhabit and fill out themselves.
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>>4027406
no wonder l*af is such a bitch when her "sister" mogs her to kingdom come (assuming its her sister)
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>>4027406
HOOOOOOLY
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alice has bigger boobies
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>>4027474
alice gets titmogged by my tardwife unfortunately
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Flat is justice
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>>4027393
Sex is far from the main reason Node fell in love with him and I think it's unfair to reduce her to this meme. Node as a character is particularly interesting because she is a walking internal conflict. Her reason, feelings and desires are at odds with each other. Sometimes she sways one way, sometimes the other. Insofar as the story is about love, Node is situated between TCO/Mary Sue's interpretation (possessive, violent, carnal - typical Great One outlook) and Prickett's (empathizing, selfless, forgiving - decisively breaking with her nature as the Great One). If carnal desires (sex) were the sole motive, then she would have simply aligned with TCO and that's it. Which is exactly how it was at the start - she had all the sex with Grimm and was fine with TCO's plan. No babbling about 'love'. The change only came much later after witnessing his suffering and pointless struggles, NOT because the sex was just that good and the only thing missing was some honeymoon vacation. Plus if sex were indeed the main reason, she would've never bonded with Prickett either because she wouldn't understand her feelings. The reason for her falling in love comes from her sympathy with Grimm, having witnessed his plight for dozens of loops. It's very plausible it could happen even if Mary Sue didn't write Grimm such that everyone falls for him.
Mabel on the other hand needs an extensive explanation for falling in love with him. She is a marginal character who was practically absent from the Wonderland up until now and doesn't have a backstory like Node's. It wouldn't make sense narrative wise to have a special DLC-sized screentime for Node (although personally I wouldn't mind it) if it's only to walk us through the process of falling in love when we already know she's been around him pretty much forever and can infer everything else.

Apologies for a lengthy reply. One thought led to another and here I am.
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>>4027638
I disagree that node/nodens would align with TCO or Leaf given how nodens canonically hates the other gods guts and is actively trying to exterminate them all. The fact node is even here at all is weird given how nodens and nyrlathotep hate each other above and beyond any other beef nodens has, but then again Node might be here specifically to make sure Alice-tep spends as little time with grimm as physically possible.
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>>4027665
Canonically Node's intervention is the only reason Mary wasn't reduced to a fine paste by TCO. GG is situated in her garden and she was already frenemies with Yog before Wonderland. There's a chance Maymay told her to go do stuff lest the whole universe end by Idiot awakening. She's also the one who stops Prickett from killing herself. There's always a possibility she was involved in the Tea Party and already had an interest in Grimm. After all Jabberwock, Bandersnatch, and Mabel (via the Red Queen) were all there too, and the "conspiracy" that both BS1 and BS2 ascribe the Red Queen's death to echoes the "white of conspiracy" that Node is associated with in the message describing her and Prickett removing Mary's powers. That's before you get into esoteric schizo theories about the Secret Garden and rabbit clan.
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>>4027406
Virgin Mary?
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>>4027219
you blob whore
lovecraft is a proud burger eater and japanese are as well
you will share with the united states of mcdonalds or I will send money to the spaniards to continue sending you more trucks of their wine
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That jumpscare sad face is still lingering in my mind.
Princess Kuti really didn't deserve any of that.
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>>4026757
LIZ LOVE!
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>>4027505
you foolishly foolish Dodo, TCO technically has the biggest boobs, or CAN have the biggest boobs if you account for its true form.
>>4027846
New-England is Europe adjacent so lovecraft dont count. re-route that wine to mabel, I don't drink.
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>>4027856
>the poor innocent mind raper didn't deserve consequences for her actions
If you think her fate was tragic wait until you learn about most other characters in the game.
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>>4027917
t. Node
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>>4027919
Node doesn't care. She thinks being in grimms rape dungeon is a le honor
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>>4027924
Shut the fuck up. Kuti isn't innocent. She brainwashed my bro, The Carpenter. She deserves everything that happened to her.
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>>4027978
I was speaking more in general than just kuti.
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>>4027856
She was an uninvited guest, but the rape dungeon is a pretty harsh treatment. Shatters her childish view of what wonderland is supposed to be-with grimm supposed to be like a fairytale prince in her mind. Actions have consequences but she's also young and stupid, and the one that actually did all the work breaking into wonderland is a shellfish brat
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>>4028099
>she's also young
She's thousands of years old.
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>>4028104
and thats still young for outer ones
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>>4028104
That's practically baby-tier for the niggers out of space!
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>>4028119
>tfw she's older than human civilization
UOOOOOOH ToT
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>>4028155
lay down the carrots node
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>>4027665
That hypothesis was to counter the argument that Node only cared about sex which, if true, would put her in the same basket as TCO & Leaf, hence my use of the word 'align'. The fact that she eventually sided against TCO proves my point and the unfolding conflict is in line with the canon logic. Although I don't see why I shouldn't consider any other development if it doesn't comply with the mythos canon's rules. These are two separate universes regardless of similarities, and toro's characters can stand on their own, so there can be discrepancies. Node readily cooperated with TCO to the extent that she was one of the creators of the Wonderland's loop system. I'm not familiar with Lovecraft's mythos, but I doubt Nodens would go so far. Node initially went there because TCO's project would help her build an army for the garden war. I dont recall anything suggesting Node's motivation for her involvement was to sabotage TCO's evil schemes or something, it's only what we the players can assume by pulling on the context of a separate literary work. Though there could be more details, maybe DRH will shed some light.
>Node might be here specifically to make sure Alice-tep spends as little time with grimm as physically possible.
TCO does not want to unite with Grimm in the first place, he's not supposed to ever truly reach her. And Node herself isn't sure what she wants to get out of this up until the point of no return at the very end. Before Grimm set off for Winterbell, she even insisted that he ignore GG's call and keep searching for Alice instead. She is the only character who accepts any outcome: be it Grimm's escape, his transformation or further imprisonment in the Wonderland.


>>4027721
Can you elaborate on the Red Queen and the whole conspiracy stuff? How is Mabel related to it? It's a blind spot for me that I couldn't quite figure out.
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>>4028155
Double down on the carrots Node.
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>>4028155
Node is so passionate and horny during sex, but so calm and gentle afterward. I really like it.
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alice is the same but twice more in all aspects as long as i don't resist.
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>>4028174
>Can you elaborate on
It's easily the least well understood part of the story imo, partly because the events of the Tea Party are still a mystery (and because there may be things that happened before it). What we have is
>BS1 in one dialogue outside the Library mentions the Red Queen as one of the enemies Grimm faced during the Tea Party (like Jabberwock) and mentions she died due to conspiracy
>BS2 mentions that "the Red Queen inherited the blood of the Old King and was fated to die due to conspiracy" and that Grimm was the one who killed her
>the Old King is sealed at the bottom of the Chaos Dungeon
>there's a note that mentions "the Red of Rage and the White of Conspiracy tore the black apart" or similar, which is mirrored by a book in Mabel's library more explicitly describing how Prickett and Node tore Mary's power from her and created GG
Then you get to the Old King and things get messy as hell, possibly due to translation issues so we really need someone competent to look over all the relevant dialogue at some point. The Old King is implied to straight up be the Red Queen, like they're one and the same, and Mabel mentions they were empowered by her (by her blood? I don't remember the exact dialogue) and that she went through the trouble of setting up the rematch with Grimm. Also the Red Queen / Old King is r63 Uther Pendragon, which has yet unexplored implications for who and what Grimm and his role are because we're pulling in Arthurian myth too (and may potentially be setting up the child he had with Shub (totally Charlotte) as the series's Mordred).
It's basically guaranteed we'll eventually learn more about what actually happened in the past, because Toro has tossed other narrative hooks that way. Namely, in her staircase dialogues Mabel talks very clearly about BS1 stuff like Grimm fucking Shub, meaning Grimm has regained his memories, but then she also has one dialogue stating there's something Grimm has already seen but has forgotten
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>>4028263
Good summary, thanks. I missed like half of it during my gameplay because it's so scattered. That message about Grimm killing her felt especially strange, considering it shows at 0 SEN and gets immediately removed (most likely by TCO, but I wonder if it could also be Prickett. One of them clearly doesn't want Grimm to have any recollections about that event)
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>>4027638
i appreciate the thought and time you put into this post anon, i think the rub with node for me is that as a player, she's a complete stranger. Node approaches grim with a familiarity thats not warrented on the basis of being a forgotten lover. And that just rubs me the wrong way. Your internal dilema about helping me or not is cool and all, but lady i do not know you, and your acting as if you have some claim over "me" is irritating.
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>>4027665
>nodens canonically hates the other gods guts and is actively trying to exterminate them all
Canon? For the love of Mary Sue, Lovecraft's universe is not the Black Souls 2 universe, stop simplifying it as such. Lovecraft's Nodens is not our Node, Lovecraft's Nyarlathotep is not TCO. We call them as such, but funnily enough neither are ever referred to by those names in game. Yes, the characters were inspired by and hold many similarities, but that does not mean Node's aspirations MUST be the same as her counterpart. We see her actions throughout the game and that's where you should draw your conclusion first and foremost, before attempting to use Lovecraft's work because of all the differences alongside the similarities.
An example of this is Azathoth. Azathoth's awakening in the Black Souls universe is fueled by the great war of gardens leading to countless dying souls going up to the cosmos and causing him to awaken. Completely different yet leads to the same result of the cosmos/universe disappearing in both.
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>>4028453
>neither are ever referred to by those names in game
Starting only with BS2 Toro switched to gods referring to each other by titles and not names (Shub is openly namedropped in 1) but still expects you to associate those titles to at least the general idea of the Lovecraft characters, or Mabel revealing herself as the One-in-All wouldn't be a reveal at all. That said, Node specifically very much nearly is called Nodens. It gets lost in translation but her name isn't pronounced like the word "node" is, the Japanese makes it explicit it's pronounced like Nodens without the -ns. It also means who she is in the Mythos is meant to be a lot more explicit.
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>>4028485
Shub is only namedropped in Ia Ia. In 2 we have the same thing with Hastur. Assumedly that means all the Great Ones have the same actual name as their Lovecraftian counterparts.
Anyway, my point is there is no reason to deal in absolutes. And you should always refer to game canon before referring to Lovecraftian canon.
>Mabel revealing herself as the One-in-All wouldn't be a reveal at all.
Yes, it enhances your experience, however Mabel ends up explaining her powers. You don't need knowledge of Yog to have knowledge of what Mabel can do.
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>>4028543
I shouldn't stick my penis in there... however.
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>>4028337
That's a fair point. I did initially suspect the main issue with it was how, from the player's perspective, you get to see the relationship with Mabel develop in its entirety, from beginning to end, with enough time that it feels fulfilling. With Node that's not the case, so it's understandable that the player would likely sympathize/bond with Mabel more. To each their own.
>>4028453
Very well said, I was going to expand on that point more along the same lines but couldn't manage the character limit in my previous post. To add just a bit, Toro is clearly only using lovecraftian canon as an inspiration/template and not as some set of rules he mustn't break, infusing his vision and modifying characters the way he sees fit *for his own original work*. Thus it's wrong to conflate these very much separate universes and demand one to be consistent with another.
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>>4028621
Toro is actually very consistent with the Mythos honestly, and knowing them gets you to notice stuff like how night-gaunts carry you to Queensland because in the Mythos they serve Node and not only does she want you to end up there, but Queensland is where Winterbell used to be.
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>>4027978
This is a meme picture but the way Node is drawn here is so cute
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>>4029012
>"what are we gonna do on the bed anon-kun?"
>*pomf* so great it breaks the bed
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I have to question what Mary Sue's plan was when she gave a fusion just 10 human souls endless evolutionary potential and the ability to mindfuck space niggers.
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>>4029218
"It would be fun lol."
And everything was going fine until Alice fucked it up.
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>>4029218
Literally just playing make believe with it and other humans she has kidnaped and forced into fairtale roles for all eternity
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>>4029218
she underestimated the indomitable human spirit
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>>4029218
>has
Gooners aren't very well known for long term thinking when it comes to their fetish.
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>>4029406
He remembers your rapes
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>>4029218
Leaf is young and immature and doesn't think too deeply about her decisions. She didn't understand the potential of her unique ability either. Her main passion is creating fairy tales, so she probably gave Grimm these powers thinking it'd just make the stories more fun or some other dumb reason, unaware of implications in the grand scheme of things. Likely never considered the possibilty of other spaceniggers breaking everything and taking her toys, and even invited shub not thinking of possible consequences. There was never any plan (especially long-term) in that empty head of hers.
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Do you think DRH would've come out much faster if Toro wasn't coping about his IRL Alice that he never moved on from?
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>>4029665
Red is his wife though?
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>>4027978
Did Node really have to have a tard rage moment towards a kid?
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>>4029832
She was just taking out the trash i like kuti but she IS an univited guest, node was being a bitch but also doing her job kicking her out.
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>>4029835
She did way worse than just kicking her out though...an eternity of torment because Node has a rape fetish and is too autistic to comprehend that other girls may not like it too. It's Node though so imma have to let it slide!
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>>4029832
>a kid
LMAO Kuti is Cthulhu's daughter, and she's older than human civilization. You're being fooled by her cute appearance. She brainwashed the Carpenter, she's not innocent.
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>>4029837
>because Node has a rape fetish
Retard. Node snapped because she heard this stupid octopus talking shit about the person she loves. Kuti deserves everything that happened to her. Nodens and Cthulhu are enemies, by the way.
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>Lorinas pussy is so good it makes Grimm say he loves her more than Alice
Is she the only girl to have him say something like that?
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>>4029854
Grimm isn't lewis caroll, no matter how badly you want him to be, lorina.
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>>4029838
>brainwash carpenter
jub and jabber both do arguably worse shit. Carpenter brainwashing is sad but also she's an outer one its pretty par for the course for them to trample over whoever they meet, its to be expected.tldr don't start the waifu moral wars it'll go on forever if you really want to play that game.
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>>4029854
>have him say something like that?
Subconsciously, me thinks. Fucking Grimm's ex managed to illicit the same jealousy from the big man. Pretty impressive considering it was a hate fuck.
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>>4029940
Cute chubby tummy
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>>4029888
He kinda is though. He is, in fact, 100% of lewis carol. The issues is that lewis is 10% of grimm(Assuming the millions of souls team grimm eats for stats don't also get a vote)
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>>4029837
>an eternity of torment
It's just a temporary eternity. She has it better than the newborns being mindraped since before birth.
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