Are you worried about the quality of Bethesda's games after the Microsoft layoffs? Will TES 6, Fallout 5, and Starfield 2 still be good?
>>4014079Just trimming the fat
What games? They haven't released any games that anyone has cared about for almost 15 years.
Starfield wasn't a higher quality game because it had hundreds more people working on it.
>>4014079>Are you worried about the quality of Bethesda's games after the Microsoft layoffs?No.>Will TES 6, Fallout 5, and Starfield 2 still be good?No.
>>4014079No I was "worried" before. They haven't made something of their quality since Morrowind. Fallout 3, NV, and 4 aren't even fallout games they just wear the corpse as a skin.This is a good thing. Let them die. ES6 is not coming. Fallout 5 is not coming.
Let's hope they got rid of the pink haired fat women and diversity hires. But they probably fired the only men that had left.
>>4014079They have not been good for 15 years, they will not be good for the next 15
>>4014104>Let's hope they got rid of the pink haired fat women and diversity hires. But they probably fired the only men that had left.It's obvious they fired white men to replace them with jeets. Microsoft is an Indian company.
>>4014118Oh yeah the new jeet in charge is currently dismantling the company.
>>4014079great, hope they all die
>>4014079>quality>Bethesda>games>Bethesda
>>4014079What Microsoft said makes sense, xbox live services are getting destroyed, probably by steam. Once people grow out of their babby consoles, they move on to the superior gaming platform (and for a variety of other reasons).Bethesda and id lost some shit, but desu, they havent made good games in over a decade. Quake Champions and Starfield were embarrassing flops, and Bethesda has had a long history of being dogshit anyway, and were practically carried by degenerate modders and gooners. Funny enough, I actually enjoyed 76 when everyone else didn't, precisely for the reasons everyone else hated it; no stupid as fuck bethshit story and dialogue. Bugs? Whatever. Daggerfall was worse and I lived through that just fine.Anyway, makes more sense to me that they're just trimming all the shit from those companies. Those companies will have to do better with less, and thats a strong motivator.
>>4014224And I always forget id made more Doom games. I look at that garbage and it makes me laugh, then I forget they exist.
>>4014104In any case, what they're replacing them with is going to be somehow worse
>>4014079I don't expect quality from Bethesda under any circumstances.
>>4014104Seems they fired a bunch of women and other bluesky type people
>>4014079It's kinda of unfair how a bunch of talent artists and programmers are getting fired, while this guy doesn't even get as much as a demotion.
>>4014079>Are you worried about the quality of Bethesda's games after the Microsoft layoffs?if anything, im expecting either more of the same, or a slight improvementi know it sucks when all ur frens get fired, but they simply werent doing a very gud job
>>4014079No, I was worried once I saw Starfield> Will TES 6, Fallout 5, and Starfield 2 still be good?They have so much feedback on what their games should have or how to make them, if they choose to ignore it it's entirely on them.
>>4014224daggerfalls main quest/story is literally the only bethesda game, ever, thats not generic hero story schlock
>>4014079I don't see how they will ever top Skyrim.
>>4014404I was worried before, but now I think it's pretty much a guaranteed disaster.
>>4014079I haven't been excited for a single Bethesda release since Fallout 4.
>>4014079So, the useless people making dumb decisions are still there?
>>4014640Todd had to choose between Kurt Kuhlman and Emil and choose the later. They are never going to ge rid of him.
>>4014404Skyrim was terrible.
>>4014668Which makes it an even bigger tragedy.
>>4014079I've been worried since Fallout 76 and Starfield. They haven't made anything good in years. If anything the layoffs might motivate them to make better games.
>>4014704>If anything the layoffs might motivate them to make better gamesBest I can do is H-1B visas
>>4014079>oh no how will we live without fat male indian strip clubs in Flouride Starefield
>>4014704Tainted Grail is making them look like hot garbage esp. when you consider team size and budgets.It's going to be even worse for them when someone integrates actual AI for NPC behaviors into an RPG that finally delivers on the promise of the bucket of malformed scripts that was "Radiant AI", which itself is a level of technology the current garbage DEI devs can't even aspire to anymore.
>We need more brown boss women!>Lets sell out to brown Megacorp!>What do you mean I'm getting replaced with Rajibdi Garubdagubjachun?>NO NOT LIKE THIS!Will faggy Gamedevs ever actually deal with their dumb decisions or are they terminally libtards constantly shitting up things just to blame the fallout on others?
>>4014079what have you done for me lately?
>>4015348The idea of the next elder scrolls game being so shit even modders don't like it seems worryingly possible down this road, but I'm kind of inclined to agree. It's been what, 15 years since skyrim came out, and they still haven't put out a new elder scrolls game? That's bullshit. Maybe I'd feel differently if I liked Fallout 4 or felt anything other than disinterest in Starfield in the first place
>>4015057They already did this with Skyrim. Check out Skyrimnet.
>>4015352Starfield almost universally bored the fuck out of everyone except the kind of terminal I h8 magic autists you find here.How did they fuck this up, Warhammer and WoW did it fine with 40k and Starcraft.All they had to do was put you on a Star Trek style ship and populate the universe with Khajeetis in starfighters and mysterious Dwemer and Atlmer worlds to explore.Instead we got retro NASA + more DEI simulator. Is this what Elder Scrolls would have been like if LSD had never been invented? Just Todd and his cold lifeless spreadsheet of a soul?
>>4015312>leftists gaining self awarenesslmao they still think Epstein and Weinstein were republicans
>>4015654Don't forget the guy who shot Charlie Kirk was secretly conservative.
>zos lost even more employeesAre they finally ending the travesty that is ESO?
>>4014079Where are their replacements coming from?
>>4015716>replacements???It could be that they will simply be understaffed.
>>4015720>understaffedImpossible unless they fire a few hundred more. Modern aaa studios are ridiculously overstaffed.
>>4015712>>zos lost even more employees>Are they finally ending the travesty that is ESO?Since nobody on /vrpg/ seems to have any clue or perspective on Zenimax Online Studios>In 2018, ZeniMax began to work on a new MMO, new IP>The team for the game had expanded to 300 people by this time, and was aiming to release in 2028>In 2025, ZOS had over 461 employees>cancellation of the game and layoffs in 2025>2026, 213 employees laid offWoah, enough information to make an anon's head spin. But we can make a few assumptions.1. A new IP cancelled = no need for hundreds of employees2. New IP meant to launch in 2028 = TES Online wasn't going to be getting full attention for longAnd as a more personal opinion: I wouldn't fund another IP in the form of another MMO that takes a decade to launch and another decade of support.
>>4015761Ok that's some nice cope.
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>>4014079No, I haven't enjoyed their games since Fallout 3. Since then, all of them have disappointed me.
>they already got thousands of visas for new workers approvedKek the jeet CEO is actually going to try and replace everyone with more of his kind.
When will they fire Todd?
>>4014118>>4014136umm, chud sisters Microsoft is in the process of gutting their gayming division. Why would they issue more H1B’s for that specific division if that were the case? They’ll be more reliant on Ai slop to develop these games if anything. (But yes, for other divisions in Microsoft there’s no doubt that they’re replacing everyone with H1B Indians, just not their Xbox gaming division)
>>4016185Around 2k issued and that’s for the entirety of the company, not the gaming division
>>4016206>Why would they issue more H1B’s for that specific division if that were the case?More izzat. Racial grievances from deep-seated feelings of inferiority. She (Indian) fired 3,000 Americans and applied for 5,000 H-1Bs from India. You are fucking stupid.
>>4016209> Microsoft has been approved this year to hire from foreign countries 2,273 employer-sponsored, non-immigrant workers under what is known as the H-1B visa program, according to data from U.S. Citizen and Immigration Services (USCIS).https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fury-erupts-us-brand-fires-1600-employees-after-securing-thousands-foreign-worker-visas.ampAs I said here you silly little queen >>4016207Those 2k visas were for the entirety of the company. Microsoft had been open about wanting to gut their gaming division for awhile now dummy, they want LESS people in the division (including H1B), not more. Copilot and AI will probably have a hand in development going into the future
>>4014079what Bethesda Quality are they talking about? Which Bethesda game is known for its QUALITY?
>>4014079>Thread was just a thinly veiled anti-Xbox/Microslop shilling OPthey have plenty of things to be criticized for, but firing blue-haired land whales? And replacing them with AI? Pic related is what released by obsidian. Or another example being starfield and its diversity, not a single white male in sight, and all this was happening under Phil’s supervision. If anything these firings have giving me hope for Xbox going forward
>>4014079For me, Bethesda died with the release of Skyrim 15years ago. I really dont care.
>>4016198soon as elderscrolls6 flops
They spent 400 million on Starfield and look how shit it was. If it was a 10 million game, it might be well received. There's no way the puppetmasters are going to let TESVI cost that much.
Larger studios don't make better games. Especially not RPG's. If anything getting rid of most of their bloated team would make the next game better.
>>4014079I'm more worried about the Fallout TV show having influence on the future games. Bethesda needed a shake up anyway.
>>4014079What at all about trends in AAAAAAAAAAA gay-ming studios makes you think anything from a major corporate developer is going to be any good anymore?We are all infinitely better off all these old IPs become abandonware for modders who are actual fans. At least when they do something retarded I can call them a dumb nigger faggot and the worst thing they can do is ban me from their trannycord, lol.Just let good franchises lie bro. That is the, "good ending," in the industry today. That and old games being kept alive by fans working on them. Studios need to start having the creative integrity to just go out on a high note like Half-Life did. Let the story end and admit when a follow-up isn't ever going to meet expectations.Also, actual monkey-pox upon the children of developers complicit in bricking old games with pointless forced updates to run off modders. I hope they die of AIDs begging on the street for change.
>>4020144>Just let good franchises lie bro.I accepted Fallout’s death and moved on after 3 and NV were both shitty.
>>4020144Why don't you just ignore new releases?
>>4020145Most FallOut fans I know all love New Vegas. I tried getting into FallOut several times, just wasn't for me. I mean I like the idea and the vibes but I never got into the game, just couldn't. I was always a TES guy.
>>4020148Because while I can still call corpos a bunch of slimy niggers for killing cultural tent-poles in my hobbies, I will continue to do so.
>>4020200>Most New Vegas fans I know all love New Vegas. I tried getting into FallOut several times, just wasn't for me
>>4020203Have fun
>>4014079I think there is a problem more broadly that AAA studios are spending more and more time and money to make worse games.I doubt cutting a big chunk of the staff is the solution but it doesn't lower my expectations any further than they already were.
>Fallout: New Vegas 2 from the devs that brought you Outer Worldsoh boy I can't waitFalloutfags about to get their own Bloodlines 2
>>4014079lol what quality?
>>4020698Yeah it's crazy how positive some of the reactions are ,considering that they fucked up every game they made since NV.
>>4020827Obsidian hasn't released a good game since early 2010. It's beyond ogre.
>>4020698>>4020827Fallout fans are just desperate for a new fallout game that isn’t mobile or MMO slop, I don’t blame them. It’s beyond ridiculous that Bethesda hasn’t released anything other than updates for 76 and fallout 4 this past decade.
>>4014079From Microsoft point of view, they paid big bux for two very popular IPs and all they got was absolute the fuck nothing for like 10 years.There is no excuse for Bethesda to spend 10 yead on a game while others equivalent studio, like Fromsoft, can basically have one release a year.First they'll give the IP to a third party like Obsidian, and if they make a good game thy'ill just dismantle Bethesda and just have third parties devellop games. Those layoff are jsut the beginning I'm affraid.If you work a Bethesda and want to keep your job you SHOULD start asking question to management. The worst they can do is fire you but it will happen if your studio is as inneficient and innefective as it is.Think about it: they didnt even have a Fallout game to go with the Netflix serie release. wtf thats like business 101.
>>4021184/vrpg/ has such surface level views
>>4021189Enlighten us with your depth of tought anon.
>>4021196Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend youWhat effects did the Fallout series have? Answer that to the best of your ability
>>4020827>>4020698Because most people think that the studio makes the game and not the people who work in it. This is a very common misconception about any enterprise, where people abstract them a self running machine.Truth is that no matter the ''culture'' or the organisation inside those walls, if the qualified people are not there, it doesnt matter if the studio ''made'' 10 great game, the next one is going to be shit.Work is a reflection of the worker. From hammering nails on a wooden plank to programming games with the tallest mountains you can climb.
>>4016198They cant, the main problem with Bethesda is that EVERYTHING has to go through Todd. This wasnt a problem when the studio was relatively small, but post-skyrim Bethesda bloated but the botleneck stayed at the top level.I guess you could consider Emil as the Dauphin, but the guy doenst seem to be quite qualified for that role, tough I'm pretty sure he would love to be promoted to it.
>>4014079>worried about the quality of Bethesda's gameslmaobait thread
>>4021210>Emil taking overI’d unironically take AI and Copilot slop over that queer. He can’t write for SHIT
>>4014079No because i don't like them already. Them becoming worse is meaningless because the last time i bought one of their games was Skyrim in 2011
