Are you worried about the quality of Bethesda's games after the Microsoft layoffs? Will TES 6, Fallout 5, and Starfield 2 still be good?
>>4014079Just trimming the fat
What games? They haven't released any games that anyone has cared about for almost 15 years.
Starfield wasn't a higher quality game because it had hundreds more people working on it.
>>4014079>Are you worried about the quality of Bethesda's games after the Microsoft layoffs?No.>Will TES 6, Fallout 5, and Starfield 2 still be good?No.
>>4014079No I was "worried" before. They haven't made something of their quality since Morrowind. Fallout 3, NV, and 4 aren't even fallout games they just wear the corpse as a skin.This is a good thing. Let them die. ES6 is not coming. Fallout 5 is not coming.
Let's hope they got rid of the pink haired fat women and diversity hires. But they probably fired the only men that had left.
>>4014079They have not been good for 15 years, they will not be good for the next 15
>>4014104>Let's hope they got rid of the pink haired fat women and diversity hires. But they probably fired the only men that had left.It's obvious they fired white men to replace them with jeets. Microsoft is an Indian company.
>>4014118Oh yeah the new jeet in charge is currently dismantling the company.
>>4014079great, hope they all die
>>4014079>quality>Bethesda>games>Bethesda
>>4014079What Microsoft said makes sense, xbox live services are getting destroyed, probably by steam. Once people grow out of their babby consoles, they move on to the superior gaming platform (and for a variety of other reasons).Bethesda and id lost some shit, but desu, they havent made good games in over a decade. Quake Champions and Starfield were embarrassing flops, and Bethesda has had a long history of being dogshit anyway, and were practically carried by degenerate modders and gooners. Funny enough, I actually enjoyed 76 when everyone else didn't, precisely for the reasons everyone else hated it; no stupid as fuck bethshit story and dialogue. Bugs? Whatever. Daggerfall was worse and I lived through that just fine.Anyway, makes more sense to me that they're just trimming all the shit from those companies. Those companies will have to do better with less, and thats a strong motivator.
>>4014224And I always forget id made more Doom games. I look at that garbage and it makes me laugh, then I forget they exist.
>>4014104In any case, what they're replacing them with is going to be somehow worse
>>4014079I don't expect quality from Bethesda under any circumstances.
>>4014104Seems they fired a bunch of women and other bluesky type people
>>4014079It's kinda of unfair how a bunch of talent artists and programmers are getting fired, while this guy doesn't even get as much as a demotion.
>>4014079>Are you worried about the quality of Bethesda's games after the Microsoft layoffs?if anything, im expecting either more of the same, or a slight improvementi know it sucks when all ur frens get fired, but they simply werent doing a very gud job
>>4014079No, I was worried once I saw Starfield> Will TES 6, Fallout 5, and Starfield 2 still be good?They have so much feedback on what their games should have or how to make them, if they choose to ignore it it's entirely on them.
>>4014224daggerfalls main quest/story is literally the only bethesda game, ever, thats not generic hero story schlock
>>4014079I don't see how they will ever top Skyrim.
>>4014404I was worried before, but now I think it's pretty much a guaranteed disaster.
>>4014079I haven't been excited for a single Bethesda release since Fallout 4.
>>4014079So, the useless people making dumb decisions are still there?
>>4014640Todd had to choose between Kurt Kuhlman and Emil and choose the later. They are never going to ge rid of him.
>>4014404Skyrim was terrible.
>>4014668Which makes it an even bigger tragedy.
>>4014079I've been worried since Fallout 76 and Starfield. They haven't made anything good in years. If anything the layoffs might motivate them to make better games.
>>4014704>If anything the layoffs might motivate them to make better gamesBest I can do is H-1B visas
>>4014079>oh no how will we live without fat male indian strip clubs in Flouride Starefield
>>4014704Tainted Grail is making them look like hot garbage esp. when you consider team size and budgets.It's going to be even worse for them when someone integrates actual AI for NPC behaviors into an RPG that finally delivers on the promise of the bucket of malformed scripts that was "Radiant AI", which itself is a level of technology the current garbage DEI devs can't even aspire to anymore.
>We need more brown boss women!>Lets sell out to brown Megacorp!>What do you mean I'm getting replaced with Rajibdi Garubdagubjachun?>NO NOT LIKE THIS!Will faggy Gamedevs ever actually deal with their dumb decisions or are they terminally libtards constantly shitting up things just to blame the fallout on others?
>>4014079what have you done for me lately?
>>4015348The idea of the next elder scrolls game being so shit even modders don't like it seems worryingly possible down this road, but I'm kind of inclined to agree. It's been what, 15 years since skyrim came out, and they still haven't put out a new elder scrolls game? That's bullshit. Maybe I'd feel differently if I liked Fallout 4 or felt anything other than disinterest in Starfield in the first place
>>4015057They already did this with Skyrim. Check out Skyrimnet.
>>4015352Starfield almost universally bored the fuck out of everyone except the kind of terminal I h8 magic autists you find here.How did they fuck this up, Warhammer and WoW did it fine with 40k and Starcraft.All they had to do was put you on a Star Trek style ship and populate the universe with Khajeetis in starfighters and mysterious Dwemer and Atlmer worlds to explore.Instead we got retro NASA + more DEI simulator. Is this what Elder Scrolls would have been like if LSD had never been invented? Just Todd and his cold lifeless spreadsheet of a soul?
>>4015312>leftists gaining self awarenesslmao they still think Epstein and Weinstein were republicans
>>4015654Don't forget the guy who shot Charlie Kirk was secretly conservative.
>zos lost even more employeesAre they finally ending the travesty that is ESO?
>>4014079Where are their replacements coming from?
>>4015716>replacements???It could be that they will simply be understaffed.
>>4015720>understaffedImpossible unless they fire a few hundred more. Modern aaa studios are ridiculously overstaffed.
>>4015712>>zos lost even more employees>Are they finally ending the travesty that is ESO?Since nobody on /vrpg/ seems to have any clue or perspective on Zenimax Online Studios>In 2018, ZeniMax began to work on a new MMO, new IP>The team for the game had expanded to 300 people by this time, and was aiming to release in 2028>In 2025, ZOS had over 461 employees>cancellation of the game and layoffs in 2025>2026, 213 employees laid offWoah, enough information to make an anon's head spin. But we can make a few assumptions.1. A new IP cancelled = no need for hundreds of employees2. New IP meant to launch in 2028 = TES Online wasn't going to be getting full attention for longAnd as a more personal opinion: I wouldn't fund another IP in the form of another MMO that takes a decade to launch and another decade of support.
>>4015761Ok that's some nice cope.
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>>4014079No, I haven't enjoyed their games since Fallout 3. Since then, all of them have disappointed me.
>they already got thousands of visas for new workers approvedKek the jeet CEO is actually going to try and replace everyone with more of his kind.
When will they fire Todd?
>>4014118>>4014136umm, chud sisters Microsoft is in the process of gutting their gayming division. Why would they issue more H1B’s for that specific division if that were the case? They’ll be more reliant on Ai slop to develop these games if anything. (But yes, for other divisions in Microsoft there’s no doubt that they’re replacing everyone with H1B Indians, just not their Xbox gaming division)
>>4016185Around 2k issued and that’s for the entirety of the company, not the gaming division
>>4016206>Why would they issue more H1B’s for that specific division if that were the case?More izzat. Racial grievances from deep-seated feelings of inferiority. She (Indian) fired 3,000 Americans and applied for 5,000 H-1Bs from India. You are fucking stupid.
>>4016209> Microsoft has been approved this year to hire from foreign countries 2,273 employer-sponsored, non-immigrant workers under what is known as the H-1B visa program, according to data from U.S. Citizen and Immigration Services (USCIS).https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fury-erupts-us-brand-fires-1600-employees-after-securing-thousands-foreign-worker-visas.ampAs I said here you silly little queen >>4016207Those 2k visas were for the entirety of the company. Microsoft had been open about wanting to gut their gaming division for awhile now dummy, they want LESS people in the division (including H1B), not more. Copilot and AI will probably have a hand in development going into the future
>>4014079what Bethesda Quality are they talking about? Which Bethesda game is known for its QUALITY?
>>4014079>Thread was just a thinly veiled anti-Xbox/Microslop shilling OPthey have plenty of things to be criticized for, but firing blue-haired land whales? And replacing them with AI? Pic related is what released by obsidian. Or another example being starfield and its diversity, not a single white male in sight, and all this was happening under Phil’s supervision. If anything these firings have giving me hope for Xbox going forward
>>4014079For me, Bethesda died with the release of Skyrim 15years ago. I really dont care.
>>4016198soon as elderscrolls6 flops
They spent 400 million on Starfield and look how shit it was. If it was a 10 million game, it might be well received. There's no way the puppetmasters are going to let TESVI cost that much.
Larger studios don't make better games. Especially not RPG's. If anything getting rid of most of their bloated team would make the next game better.
>>4014079I'm more worried about the Fallout TV show having influence on the future games. Bethesda needed a shake up anyway.
>>4014079What at all about trends in AAAAAAAAAAA gay-ming studios makes you think anything from a major corporate developer is going to be any good anymore?We are all infinitely better off all these old IPs become abandonware for modders who are actual fans. At least when they do something retarded I can call them a dumb nigger faggot and the worst thing they can do is ban me from their trannycord, lol.Just let good franchises lie bro. That is the, "good ending," in the industry today. That and old games being kept alive by fans working on them. Studios need to start having the creative integrity to just go out on a high note like Half-Life did. Let the story end and admit when a follow-up isn't ever going to meet expectations.Also, actual monkey-pox upon the children of developers complicit in bricking old games with pointless forced updates to run off modders. I hope they die of AIDs begging on the street for change.
>>4020144>Just let good franchises lie bro.I accepted Fallout’s death and moved on after 3 and NV were both shitty.
>>4020144Why don't you just ignore new releases?
>>4020145Most FallOut fans I know all love New Vegas. I tried getting into FallOut several times, just wasn't for me. I mean I like the idea and the vibes but I never got into the game, just couldn't. I was always a TES guy.
>>4020148Because while I can still call corpos a bunch of slimy niggers for killing cultural tent-poles in my hobbies, I will continue to do so.
>>4020200>Most New Vegas fans I know all love New Vegas. I tried getting into FallOut several times, just wasn't for me
>>4020203Have fun
>>4014079I think there is a problem more broadly that AAA studios are spending more and more time and money to make worse games.I doubt cutting a big chunk of the staff is the solution but it doesn't lower my expectations any further than they already were.
>Fallout: New Vegas 2 from the devs that brought you Outer Worldsoh boy I can't waitFalloutfags about to get their own Bloodlines 2
>>4014079lol what quality?
>>4020698Yeah it's crazy how positive some of the reactions are ,considering that they fucked up every game they made since NV.
>>4020827Obsidian hasn't released a good game since early 2010. It's beyond ogre.
>>4020698>>4020827Fallout fans are just desperate for a new fallout game that isn’t mobile or MMO slop, I don’t blame them. It’s beyond ridiculous that Bethesda hasn’t released anything other than updates for 76 and fallout 4 this past decade.
>>4014079From Microsoft point of view, they paid big bux for two very popular IPs and all they got was absolute the fuck nothing for like 10 years.There is no excuse for Bethesda to spend 10 yead on a game while others equivalent studio, like Fromsoft, can basically have one release a year.First they'll give the IP to a third party like Obsidian, and if they make a good game thy'ill just dismantle Bethesda and just have third parties devellop games. Those layoff are jsut the beginning I'm affraid.If you work a Bethesda and want to keep your job you SHOULD start asking question to management. The worst they can do is fire you but it will happen if your studio is as inneficient and innefective as it is.Think about it: they didnt even have a Fallout game to go with the Netflix serie release. wtf thats like business 101.
>>4021184/vrpg/ has such surface level views
>>4021189Enlighten us with your depth of tought anon.
>>4021196Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend youWhat effects did the Fallout series have? Answer that to the best of your ability
>>4020827>>4020698Because most people think that the studio makes the game and not the people who work in it. This is a very common misconception about any enterprise, where people abstract them a self running machine.Truth is that no matter the ''culture'' or the organisation inside those walls, if the qualified people are not there, it doesnt matter if the studio ''made'' 10 great game, the next one is going to be shit.Work is a reflection of the worker. From hammering nails on a wooden plank to programming games with the tallest mountains you can climb.
>>4016198They cant, the main problem with Bethesda is that EVERYTHING has to go through Todd. This wasnt a problem when the studio was relatively small, but post-skyrim Bethesda bloated but the botleneck stayed at the top level.I guess you could consider Emil as the Dauphin, but the guy doenst seem to be quite qualified for that role, tough I'm pretty sure he would love to be promoted to it.
>>4014079>worried about the quality of Bethesda's gameslmaobait thread
>>4021210>Emil taking overI’d unironically take AI and Copilot slop over that queer. He can’t write for SHIT
>>4014079No because i don't like them already. Them becoming worse is meaningless because the last time i bought one of their games was Skyrim in 2011
I see little reason to expect any quality from Bethesda at this point. Starfield was one of the most boring, creatively bankrupt games ever made, with a story that could be topped by ChatGPT 3.0. Fallout is over as the dogwater show is canon, retconning everything from the west coast, rendering every piece of worthwhile lore that we had useless. The best we can do is huff copium hoping that Obsidian may be able to do something nice with the NV remaster, though I won't hold my breath for it, since Obsidian has gone in a massive spree of bad game after bad game. Learn from Dead Money and let it go
>>4039344>Learn from Dead Money and let it goBlack Isle. Black Isle never changes.
>>4014079Not only is there diminishing returns when you throw more bodies at a video game, it's become very clear the past few years that it's an active detriment to have these massive teams with hundreds of people. Too many chefs in the kitchen.
>>4014079I am not worried at all that they are laying these people off actually
>>4039583Nothing screams "quality assured" like bethesda
>>4039584I am sure Autumn here, who was 14 years old when Skyrim came out, has all the qualifications to make sure bethesda has been releasing stellar games in the last decade like....uh.....well....I'm sure I can think of something eventually
>>4014079>Are you worried about the quality of Bethesda's games after the Microsoft layoffs?nope>Will TES 6, Fallout 5, and Starfield 2 still be good?Absolutely not, bgs hasn't released a good game in 24 years
>>4014079>the quality of Bethesda's gamesoh, now you're worried about that?
>>4014079>Bethesda Games>qualityoh that's rich coming from the developers behind Starfield
>>4014079far I'm concerened Starfield should of been their last game they're allowed to make before giving their IPs to other developers to crack at.
>>4039828>>4039833If you ever had doubts about vrpg posters being bot tier
>>4014079Nigger, no one cares about Bethesda - and by extension Zenimax/Microshit - after they fucked up FO4 and truly cemented themselves as turboslop with Starsaar
>>4039912Are they wrong though?
>>4039912Get back to work, Emil.
>>4039913>he played FO4NGMI
>>4039912If you ever >*LOADING SCREEN*had doubts about >*LOADING SCREEN*vrpg posters being >*LOADING SCREEN*bot tier
>>4039833Nigger brain, if you were older than 18 you would know that pathetic "quality assurance" in Bethesda is a meme since 90s. All games they have made between Terminator FPPs and Oblivion were bugfests. Only Skyrim was kinda OK.
>>4014079All of those games will be shit. It doesn't matter if there's 50 or 5000 people working on it.
>>4040025The Terminator game was fun as hell back in the day. The vehicles were cool for the time.Shit, just realized Morrowind has been old enough to drink for years
>>4014079>Are you worried about the quality of Bethesda's games after the Microsoft layoffs? No.>>4014084>Just timming the fatIt's just this. I did a little digging and they're basically dropping people who don't actually contribute such as "team coordinators".When they had 5 artists in a room one was a coordinator who was paid to look over the other guys shoulders and to check quality/consistency were to guidelines. They've now dropped that posistion. Said coordinator was given a choice, take redundancy or take a pay cut and do the same amount of work as the people whose shoulders they've been looking over. Some of their egos couldn't handle it so they walked. There was then a second round of layoffs to account for the people didn't take redundancy and they removed the weaker artists in the teams. So now, you have the same as before, 4 guys in a room making art, only now they don't have someone looking over the shoulder constantly and they're more accountable for their own assets.Going forward you might seen a drop in quality control (you have one coordinator for every 50 artists instead of 5), but that could also work the other way and improve consistency because you have the same standards being held over a wider team.
>>4041038>a drop in quality control>quality control>bethesda
>>4014079I don't think that people who work there are professionals since they didn't make a good enough game in 15 years
>>4041087skyrim wasn't a good game
>>4041092It was good enough to have a cultural impactI don't see people talk about f4 or starfield or make memes about them which is a thing I cannot say about skyrim in particular and TES in general
>>4041095There are few reasons why skyrim had such cultural impact:- it was at the time the only game like it on consoles -marketing-11/11/11 release date which accidentally invoked some sort of meme magic-good art direction-amazing ostit being ''goood enough'', which is debatable, matters not, as long as you were le superviking killing dragons
>>4041130>as long as you were le superviking killing dragonsThis is simultaneously a good criticism and a bad criticism. From playing the game itself, at no point does it make you feel like choosing to be a “traditional nord” would be the better option. There’s almost 0 ingame response to player race and the game never pushes you to be a nordYet also the game provides no alternatives if you want to play as a different character. If you indulge people’s roleplaying somehow a barbarian nord and an altmer mage and a dunmer assassin all arrive at the same narrative point, you are dragonborn. The choice is an illusion, any choice you make winds up in the same place anyways
>>4041038>I did a little digging and they're basically dropping people who don't actually contribute such as "team coordinators"They're firing white people to hire more jeets.
>>4041038>I did a little diggingWhere did you get this? I'd like to read it too
>>4042616>From playing the game itself, at no point does it make you feel like choosing to be a “traditional nord” would be the better option. There’s almost 0 ingame response to player race and the game never pushes you to be a nordYou're supposed to surmise that playing as a Nord is the correct type of character for the game based on the setting and the context, I suppose, rather than the game stating it or nudging you, so much so that every character I ever made in Skyrim was always a male Nord. There's a little fixed throwaway line when entering Whiterun where one of the NPCs says "well met, kinsman" such that I thought it was just the line, but if you're any other race he says "well met, traveler" which caught me by surprise the first time I heard it.
>>4042782A hearty welcome to Falkreath! All of Skyrim's true sons are welcome here!
>>4042782Yeah a couple random lines change, but other than that it’s meaningless. If it were truly meaningful you should have people refuse to sell to you or something depending on race. But “nord” just fits the vibe best. Same with morrowind, I can’t imagine a nerevarine as anyone other than a dunmer, though you could be anyone theoretically
>>4039584>>4039589that's ESO
>>4043055So even worse?
>>4043026Yes but that would be raciss and we can't have that in a video game>first time Skyrim>wow Nord resistance to cold, that will come in handy in such an environment>wrong
>>40201453 and NV are the only good fallout games ever made
>>40444073/10 bait, pity reply
>>40444073, NV, 4, and 76
>40444530/10 bait, no (you). Not even a hint of cleverness or effort. What happened to taking some pride in one’s trolling?
>>4014079Bethesda hasn't been good since 2002,when they released Morrowind. Let it go. Toddslop only got worse with every installment since then
>>4014079The quality was already low so no, not worried.
books?
>>4014154>Now
>>4044503Replying to bait, even to call it out for being bait means you fell for it and gave that person what they wanted, good job stupid.
