>Fantasy Medieval RPG>introduce sci-fi elements.stop that. its never worked, ever.
>>4015875>its never worked, ever.It worked as long ago as Ultima, which is older than you are
>>4015877wrong. the sci fi elements were so stupid in early Ultimas that Richard abandoned them after Ultima III and thank God he did, thats when it got good.they revisited sci-fi with Martian Dreams and oh look, it was also stupid.
>>4015875you lost
>>4015875I liked it in tales of arise where the tech advanced people enslaved all the brainlet folk
>discover ancient race and technology>its robots and steam powered machinesTodd. stop that.
>>4015875It never worked for you. Luckily, we're blessed by developers who aren't making games to fit your shit taste.
>>4015893>doesnt name a single game
>>4015895Why would I? I think you're mistaking the argument I'm making.
>>4015881My fellow fantasy RPGs, we must let sci-fi into our settings. We cannot survive without the diversity they bring. It is our greatest strength.Sci-fi built fantasy.
>>4015898It's not science fiction unless it's fiction about science.>we wuz techpriests n shityour nan was a servo skull with a mop
>>4015899servitorise this faggot post haste
>>4015934hey cool it with the antisemitism
It worked when Conan did it.
>>4015877>>4015881What are these scifi elements?>>4015875Rogue galaxy, star ocean? The scifi elements aren't damaging the game.
>>4016042>ConanThe barb or detective or author?
>>4015875>its never worked, ever.Clearly, you have not played Drakengard, new cutie
>>4016049Yes.
>>4016047these purists are just being elitist about it.absolutely no reasoning behind their criticism.
>>4016088>absolutely no reasoning behind their criticism.Pretty common nowadays.
It's cool.
Arcanum just werked.
>>4016126It is, picrel is wonky though.
Wizardry 6-8 beg to differ
>>4015875Chosen people
>>4016061Worth it nta btw
>>4015875>magic is an ai delivery service>incantations are delivery orders in a forgotten language>mana is a virtual currency>meditating for mana is scrolling through ancient brainrot in your mind
>>4015875Not so fast
>>4016242Basically amazon and bitcoin.
>>4015875>fantasy medieval rpg >it's actaully not at all some generic tropey western medieval world but is elevated by hidden futuristic societies that built civilization and advanced technology and magic that can cure cancer in 2 seconds with a swish of the fingerWho wants to waste time in some boring world?
>>4015875Wild Arms has the best version of fantasy and sci-fi blend.>A world scarred by some massive industrial or magical disaster that has rendered much of it desert like and inhospitable>The tree-hugging hippie people who fled and perhaps have something to do that, and this cute thing>Magical weapons, teleporters and other technology>Golems (robots but not really)>Flying devices>The real bad guys are just aliens stuck here and some of the aren't all that bad>IIRC their UFO is so old it's underneath a castle
Also I nearly forgot Shadorun. But that is s scifi setting with medieval stuff muxed in.
>>4016538Wild ARMS is actually more complicated than that, it is actually post apocalyptic sci-fi: Filgaia (Far Gaia) is a human colony world and the demons are another branch of humans who went balls to the wall with augmentation and mind transfer you even go to the initial colony ship in Wild ARMS 3
>>4016572I thought all the FIlgaias were different worlds that happened to share the same name and similar sort of western desert setting.I only played the first two and detected no direct continuity in story between them, even if they share ideas. Like the Final Fantasy games.But perhaps that was retconned. Sound like the franchise went places.
>>4015875It did work in Ultima, Might & Magic and WizardryThe problem is that now both Fantasy and Sci-Fi have become feminized and lame and gay.
>>4016538Isn't there some Ff5 genji type that initially is your enemy? What's his name and which wa was this? Is wa tactics any good? Games are old, but I might hop into the series. 1,2,3 are great, right?
>>4015875Worked excellent for Final Fantasy IX. Might as well be my favorite mix of fantasy and sci-fi.
>>40165763 directly connects itself to 1 in main story, as does 4 to 2 (but 4 to 2 is just locations)WA5 is entirely separate while XF mentions some locations from 2
>>4015875I liked the way it worked in Age of Decadence.
>>4015875Ff6 tactics is out>@vrpgYou lied to me. Countless times you tried to psyop me into believing the game would never come out (just learned about the project a minute ago)
>>4016657>>@vrpg>You lied to me. Countless times you tried to psyop me into believing the game would never come outGo into the archive and post a screenshot of 1 (one) post from this board stating that it would never come out. I can't find even a single post discussing it, other than yours.
>>4016659>(just learned about the project a minute ago)Thx for looking up, I guess. I was merely looking for a catchy way to inform you.
>>4016594If you want to go further, it worked well enough to save the entire company. Fighting a warmech in a space station has been there since the beginning.
Tekumel
>>4015875One of the greatest books ever written in the genre in fantasy sci-fi, you fucking retard.
>>4015875Let me guess - you also sperg out about potatoes, tobacco and other new world items in fantasy settings, despite they appearing in books written by grandgather of modern fantasy, J.R.R Tolkien himself?
I never liked when they mixed either but I'm not against the idea. For me it usually comes off as>dude le magic is le science all along111!Every time it's a twist it somehow cheapens everything. But if it's communicated clearly early on I have no problem with it. Or stories that center around the subject like a wizard that teleports himself to sci-fi world or a sci-fi ship crashlands on magic planet I'm okay with too.
>>4015875i personally thing that EVERYTHING can work but it all depends on how its written etc.
>>4017218>potatoes, tobaccoWhy can't middle earth have that?
>>4017218>tobaccoCavemen had tobacco.
>>4015875If your understanding of fantasy is "swords and magic" and science fiction - "space and lazers", then you are clueless moron, raised on multiple generation derivative works. The core of fantasy is adventure in an imaginary world, core of sci-fi is thought experiment or simulation of our world with some parameters changed.
>>4015875has to be the worst trope in fantasy rpgs, next to you're literally fighting gods in another plane where everything is made out of hexagons. i just want to play a grounded medieval fantasy RPG, but everything has to be over the top, morally grey, subversive etc
>>4015875>stop that. its never worked, ever.it worked from the start
>>4015875Its cool in Might and Magic
>>4017581picrel
The problem with modern sci-fi is that it always devolves into some gay ass dystopian bullshit about people addicted to technology so normies watching at home can have glimpses of self-realization between eating high fructose & red 40. When white men were writing sci-fi, it was about deep space exploration & discovering new worlds which goes hand in hand with fantasy. It offered a more optimistic view of the future or at least, pondered the questions of how we'd overcome the challenges.>>4017584This is a great example of what I'm talking about
>>4017608>When white men were writing sci-fi, it was about deep space exploration & discovering new worlds which goes hand in hand with fantasy. It offered a more optimistic view of the future or at least, pondered the questions of how we'd overcome the challenges.Classic sci-fi was always social commentary on the present through the lens of the future, it was just written by intelligent people with experience with the hard sciences, military background, engineering, etc. look at starship troopers, half the book is just them sitting in a classroom discussing political structures, history, ethics, biology and evolution, etc.
>>4015875>scifi rpg>introduce technological regression with fantasy elementsi love that, works every time.
I like it best when it's an actual blend and not a smash-up
>>4017655Turns out aliens are actually demons.
>>4017665
>>4015875>its never worked, ever.Final Fantasys?
>>4017665>>4017655terribly retconned in HOMM3
>>4015875There was a time when science fantasy was very popular, it didn't last long though.
>>4017688I was talking about real life.
>>4017695based and tradpilled
>>4017804
I think it can work if it goes fully on the silliness and fun of the concept of science fantasy The idea that people in knight plate armor going around with swords and laser pistols is cool, them fighting a dragon who uses technology and magic to make enchanted machines to conquer the land, it sounds stupid yes, yet if done right, it's fun, and I think what matters most, it doesn't need to make sense or logical, just say some highly advance race crashed down on the planet and now the native race are using it as a another form of magic, just one that requires more than hand waving and shouting magic words, there done >>4017608 Anon makes a good point, modern sci-fi always goes down into dystopian "We're all doomed as a species as the corpos got us by the balls! but hey cool cybernetic eyes!", same with fantasy these days where everyone wants to be the next Game of Thrones, it just seems everyone only wants to write about dystopian blackpilled stories of how fucked we, no one wants to write stories of discovery and wonder, along with ass kicking aliens
>>4028274mass effect is a (reasonably) modern franchise that is mostly optimistic
>>4017218Middle Earth isnt in England.
>>4015875Age of Decadence kicks ass, though it's more of a Ancient RPG.>>4015895Might & Magic did it several times.>>4017608It was more "Dude summoning demons is a really bad idea."
>>4015875Every Might and Magic game (except X) disagrees.
>>4015875elf-dwarf-orc fantasy is like a bare pizza crust. you gotta do something else on top
>>4029175Sausage, jalapeño, pineapple
>>4015881>the sci fi elements were so stupid in early Ultimas that Richard abandoned them after Ultima III and thank God he did, thats when it got good.Yeah, thank God he abandoned sci-fi so the next few games are III could focus on interdimensional planetary travel and invading space aliens or the advanced extradimensional Blackrock which they use to make generators and teleporters with, including the moon gates.Or maybe you can just admit you're so far beyond a secondary that we can classify you as a tertiary.
>>4015895DW Bradley's wizardry
>>4029256For me, it’s DW Bradley’s Dungeon Lords
For me it's fantasy races in sci-fi setting. I don't know that it is about it, but it's just wrong. It feels very gay too, don't know how to explain it. Couldn't finish Shadowrun because of that.
>>4015895>>4015875>Elder Scrolls Series>Might and Magic Series>Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura>Planescape: Torment
>>4016126>the guy in the mickey house wizard hat kino
>>4015875What are you talking about, it worked a lot. Like on every Star Ocean game, some FF games, He man, the Barsoom series, The dark tower series, Escaflowne? Those are games, cartoons, anime, books... it can totally work.
>>4015891>Todd has been dispatched to your location.
>>4015898Fantasy is gay and allow devs to be political correct. Ask them to make a realist game in the middle age.You instantly see those who go along with the prevailing opinion and those who have the guts to make a historically realist game without diversity and faggots.
