7 > 8 > 9
VII > IX > power gap > VIII
They're all good but I'll go 8>9>7.I think the reason I liked 7 the least was because the story is so famous I knew everything that was going to happen from the start.
VII>VIII>IXThey are also part of my Top 5 for the series and the only ones, which also includes VI (before VII) and V (between VII and VIII). That said, I generally agree with any and all complaints and critiques lobbied at VIII; I simply love it in spite of all that.
7 = 9 >>>>>>> 8 both 7 and 9 are kind of fucked in their last third/quarter. 8 Is fucked from the start of disc 2
>>40159748 > 7 > 9
>>4016019Wrong. 8 is great and has the best romance in the series.
>>4016040Clive & Jill couplemogged them
>>4015974IX > VIII > VI
1. 8feels revolutionary, political atmosphere is huge, anti-grind game, hated because you have to think for the first time in a ff game, characterization is shit though and the story surrounding the characters is lame. Incredible music and symbolism. Only ff where unlocking ultimate weapons/abilities/GFs feels like you achieved something.2. 9love letter to ff fans. Most technically competent psx game ever. Game feels small though compared to 8 and even 7. World is incredible up until you leave the mist continent and then it feels empty and the game is basically over (four dungeons - iifa tree, desert palace, oeilvert, ipsen's castle, an optional city, then you go to terra and then the final dungeon, which is just a shitty staircase with boss fights). Lots of the abilities feel pointless and you'll never use most of them. Three or four ultimate weapons you don't get until the last dungeon and vivi's one is like five screens away from the final boss. Also, Vivi's ultimate weapon is the only way to unlock his final ability. Story is simplistic but not a bad thing. The sidequests are very limited and the chocograph shit is tedious.3. 7best story with philosophical ramifications. Feels technically inferior to 8 and 9. Shit load of extras to do.
>>4015974They are rank
7 > 9 > 8
>>40159747 > 9 >>>>>>>>> 8
7 < 9 <<<<<<<<< 8
>>4015974IX>VII=VIIIThey all good though.
>>40159747 > 9 >>>>> 8>>40160402nd worst romance of the series, only beats out the Noctis/Stella "romance" from 15.
>>4015980FPBP, as usual.
>>4016040lolwut? it's probably the most forced and awkward romance in any game i have played. Hell, the generic highschool romcom shit from persona is better than this.
>>4016050>>4016109>>4016127
>>4016040>best romance in the series1. Tidus and Yuna2. Cloud and Tifa
>>4016241these two actually get naked on screen
>>4016272I wouldn't know, I dropped the series after 10. Cloud and Tifa bang off-screen if you unlock the true ending, however.
>>4016127I'd argue that Cloud and Tifa is the most awkward romance in FF.At least Squall and Rinoa acknowledge their attraction to each other.Cloud is too depressed all the time and being with Tifa seems to just make him remember all the trauma he has. Tifa acts like a mom who pushes him around.Sure you can say the lifestream scene the most intimate couple scene but it also felt more like a therapy instead of both showing love to each other. Platonic at best.
>>4016335>he didn’t get the secret ending
>>4016050Clive and who?
>>4016335>At least Squall and Rinoa acknowledge their attraction to each other.out of freaking nowhere after she falls into a coma and comes out of it>>4016393Jhil, the childhood friend
>>4016337>he didn't know Tifa is never anything else an overly whitewashed cheap whore (and a cheap substitute when the genuine heroine is absent)https://i.4cdn.org/v/1783779021938830.jpgwhich Nomura plagiarized >>>/v/742823938 from his personal nasty secondhand fap material, an actual 1993(=97-4) porn game's catfight scene. https://www.nicozon.net/player.html?video_id=sm14381614
>>4016440>coypasta from /v/ just to shit on 7can't even come up with your own "arugments" anymore
>>4015974i like all three.
>>4015974VI>IV>>>VII>VIII>>>IXi dropped the series with XI. and i prefer the SNES games as i played those first, they were among the first RPGs i played along with Lufia II's puzzle hell.
>>4016272Jill knew how to motivate her man. Bro probably survived the world saving just to clap those cheeks again.
>>4016402You're making that up. No character named Jihl existed in FFXVI. There was a little girl that Clive met once when he was a teenager, though. But the only thing she had to do with anything was him finding her dog as an adult.
>>4016633>you made a small typo therefore your argument is invalidlamo, you are making up shit so you aren't taking an L
>>4016553I think Clive and Cecil are the only FF leads to officially have gotten laid
>>4016643Cloud bangs Tifa off-screen in the true ending.
>>4016652>>4016337>fake newsand?
>>4016663The scene before the Northern Crater depends on your 'date mechanics' score with Tifa. Iirc it checks if it's over 50, and higher than any of the others. They sneak off and bang, otherwise they just sit and talk.Over threshold:>Cloud: Sorry. Did I wake you...? It's almost dawn, Tifa.>Tifa: Umm... G, good morning...Cloud.Under threshold:>Cloud: Morning, Tifa. It's almost dawn...>Tifa: Mmm...... Good morning, Cloud.>Tifa: Give me a little longer... Just a little bit longer...>Tifa: This day will never come again... So let me have this moment...Over theshold:>Cloud: Yeah...okay. This is probably the last time we'll have together......Under threshold:>Cloud: ............When they return to the rest of the party:Over threshold:>Tifa: ......Were you watching? (She falls to the ground in embarrassment)Under threshold:>Tifa: ......Were you listening?
>>4016652>some temporary jobber Masato Kato made fun of this pornbait character plagiarized from an actual 1993(=97-4) porn >>>/v/742823938 with an obscene joke.>true ending.Masato Kato was urgently called upon to help in the last 2 monthes of 1996 and unfamiliar with like 90% of the whole story. (while these 20 scripts in picrel, almost 90% of this obscene gag material sidebitch >>4016440 aka Tifa's "story" after disc1 was done by this temp jobber.)
>>4016666>dialogue interpretation copeMeanwhile FF16 chads can see Jill press her naked boobs against Clive (and the ensuing neuron activation upon Clive's face) and kissing. FF7 virgins could only hope for such confirmation of relations.
And yes that 1993 Hgame character which Nomura plagiarized her as "Tifa" >>>/v/743101378 is known for 青姦(outdoor sex) in her own porn game, genuine nips noticed that decades ago.https://i.4cdn.org/v/1783780992156104.jpg>しかも(ティファの)青姦まで元ネタがきゃんきゃんバニー>>4016678
>>4016678>>4016683fuck off already
>>4016689>illiterate cuck trying to stop ppl from noticing his plagiarized whorefu is never anything else than a irrelevant pornbait made for irrelevant obscene jokes.
not the first time someone from FF copied from somewhere else
>>4016635The joke wasn't about the typo, it was about the absolute uselessness of the character. I genuinely have no idea if her name was spelled 'Jill', 'Jihl', 'Jhil', 'Jil', 'Gihl', 'Gill', etc.
>>4016707yet more useful than Stella from 15
>>4016710Again, I say 'Who?'
>>4016753little miss 5 minutes of screentime and half of that screentime is her death scene
>>4016776So your (or whomever's) response to 'This couple that spent the game working towards being together, if poorly' is, 'Nuh-uh, because this other dood fucked a piece of wood with a face Sharpied on! And that's better than this other nothing, so that makes it the best!'
>>40159749>7>8
>>4016847Dissidia!
>>4016707>I genuinely have no idea if her name was spelled 'Jill', 'Jihl', 'Jhil', 'Jil', 'Gihl', 'Gill', etc.It's Jill
>>4017134I'll take your word for it.
>>4016707Gil
>>4017193Shit, let me update the Rolodex.
>>4017293WARNING SPOILERS”Gil” as in the money in Final Fantasy
>>4017307women, am I right?
>>4017336Bitches only want one thing, man...
>>4016040I always hear people that love VIII say that the problems that many have with the story in the game are mainly because of the poor translation, but if that were the case you'd think that after all these years there would have been a re-translation project for it.
>>4017405>are mainly because of the poor translationand yet said "poor" translation is used as the backbone of that retarded R=U fanfiction
We doing the other ones too or just these three? Because Tactics >12>9>10>8>7>16>15>14>11>13 as far as stories.
>>4017527This is one of the worst rankings of FF games I’ve seen on this site. One, because you have 9 high on the list instead of at the very bottom (like 10 and 7 both completely mog 9’s story). Two, because you haven’t played 1 through 6 for some reason. Three, you appear to have kept playing all the shitty nu-FFs for some reason instead of dropping the series after 10 and reading the writing on the wall about where the series was headed.
>>4017630Good thing this is my opinion and not your opinion. Gonna cry?
>>4017718>Gonna cry?Based retarded Jecht quoter. FF9 fanboys in shambles.
>>4016040Yes let's get our opinions on romance from chronic jarpig players
>>4015974As a kid, FF7 > FF9 >>> FF8As an adult, FF7 > FF8 >>>>> FF9
>>40159748>7>9 but I never finished 9 and probably never will
>>40159749>7>8I'm older and smarter than everyone else in the thread.
>>40202497 > 8 >>> 9I am older and significantly smarter than the quoted anon
>>4020249>>40203217 > 9 > 8I'm older then both of you, way smarter and make 6 figures a year gaming while AI does all my work.
>>4020523>while AI does all my workI'm sorry, anon.
>>40159747>9>8 but they're all decent to great
>>4016063>feels revolutionaryIt can't be since no one took anything from that pile of shit.
>>4016063>love letter to ff fansDid you get this line from a Youtube ten hour video essay retrospective? I played it when it came out and 9 sucked, easily the weakest PSX game. I'd rank it below all the SNES games too. Maybe the only one worse than it at the time was 2 on the NES.>Most technically competent psx game everStopped reading here. It ran like fucking dogshit compared to 7 and 8. Slow, bad loading times.
>>4020529For what? I spent years coding and now AI can do all the boilerplate shit that's boring to create and I just do a PR on it to make sure it didn't fuck up. I step in on complicated shit and game all day. It's awesome.
>>4015974VII > IX > VIIIFFIX is underrated. FFVIII deserves to be in the top 3 in terms of the worst world building, the dumbest plot and cringe writing.
>>4016063>8Wtf man, kys. You're too dumb to participate in this thread. Are you a chick?>9>love letter to ff fansImpressive number of references to props from the older titles. I liked how the game mechanics is reflected in the plot and writing.>you are able to produce an unbelievably powerful SUPER ATTACK? The elite royal guard welcomes you.>you can SUMMON a POWERFUL DEMON MONSTER? Hey, maybe we will use it to destroy a city?>Story is simplisticIt was not. It got really convoluted after you clear the Tree of Mist or whatever it was called. The Garland part was WAY too much for the premise.
>>4020566>I liked how the game mechanics is reflected in the plot and writingName three examples.
>>4020555You'll be in a bread line in 3 years and still fucking your hand.
>>4020569You have 2 examples in my previous post you moron>you are able to produce an unbelievably powerful SUPER ATTACK? The elite royal guard welcomes you.>you can SUMMON a POWERFUL DEMON MONSTER? Hey, maybe we will use it to destroy a city?The bandits looking for a "soft" item to un- petrify one of their comrades from the beginning of the game was also a nice touch. Yes, I see the presence of magic, healing items and limit breaks has a visible impact on the world. I like it.
>>4020598>bandits are looking for some "eye drops" to help one of their comrades with allergies>bandits are looking for some "potions" to recover from a night of heavy drinkingWOW THESE GAME MECHANICS SURE ARE REFLECTED IN THE PLOT AND WRITING
>>4020605He proved his point. You proved you're a trailernog.
>>4020595stfu, you aiphobia is unfounded and have no basis at all. "it insists upon itself"
>>40159747 > 8 >>> 9I really hated the character design in 9 as well as the trance system, 7 is probably a lot of nostalgia, 8's triple triad made me addicted to it, loved the setting
>>4015974THE RESULTS ARE IN:Prepare to watch folks get triggered!And remember, you voted for them...
>>4024124>best>7>8>9>worst>9>8>7who could have seen that coming
>>4024170honestly chocograph side quest can only take you so far
>>4024170>who could have seen that comingFirst post called it.
>>4015974There's only been two FFs that I didn't enjoy and that is TA and X-2, and X-2 was so awful it killed any desire I had to continue on in the franchise.1. VII*It is the best in the series and it has yet to be topped.2. TacticsExcellent TTRPG. The whole presentation is awesome.3. IVThis is the first FF I've ever played and I've loved it ever since. I come back to this game at least once every few years, if not playing it then watching someone else play it.4. XThe last true FF game in my book. Was really cool that the summons actually fought in battle and weren't just a big magic spell. Really like the setting and the bittersweet ending. Probably one of the best moviegame RPGs ever made.5. IX*It's not the best, but there's something nostalgic about it and while I absolutely hate the speed of the battles and the stealing mechanics, there's still a certain charm about this one. Really sucks that the plot starts losing gas just after the Outer Continent.6. VI didn't used to like this one very much but it's grown on me. The job class system is really fun.7. VII didn't used to like this one very much either, but it's grown on me too. I always liked it more than V up until semi-recently. I do like how the WoR opens up.8. VIII*It's a lot of style over substance, but it has style in spades. Not the best, not the worst.9. IIII've never actually finished this one because everything this does, V does better, but it's neat.10. IAgain, I've never actually finished this one but that's because I've never owned the game and so I get so far and then the game would either go back to a friend or back to the rental store. Hope to one day go back and finish this.11. Tactics AdvanceTactics is just a really hard act to follow up to, and I hate the "chore" feel to the "missions" in the beginning of the game. The law system also is annoying. Never finished, never had a desire to finish.cont.
>>401597412. IIThe leveling system is neat on paper. I hate the execution. Haven't finished, don't plan on picking it back up.13. X-2I hate this game.I absolutely hate this game.I hate how the assets are recycled. I hate how they assassinated Yuna's character. I hate how they made Brother a total creep. I hate how you have to get 100% to get the best ending. I don't like either New Yevon or the Youth League. The tone of the game is completely off. I don't understand why we have Payne when Lulu is right there.... the only saving grace this game has is the job class system, and while it has it's moments? It is not enough life support to keep me engaged. While I didn't expect an experience that was even as good as X? I expected something that diminish what X did, and this game diminishes X. I try to forget this game exists.
>>4016440>>4016678>>4016683>>4016692That was illuminating, sincerely.Y'know, for a long time I noticed FF4 takes a lot out of Star Wars and repurposes it. A short, non-exhaustive list:- Red Wings? X Wings.- Kain and Golbez being mind controlled? Jedi Mind Trick.- Golbez uses lightning powers to steal Fabul's crystal? Force Lightning.- Golbez's dismembered hand stealing dwarf crystal? Darth Vader's lopped off mechanical hand.etc.The question I have for you is do you know of anything else plagiarized in FF? I'm dying to know of anything I've missed in the other FFs, even FF7. You're the only other anon I've read that is at all jazzed about this sort of thing that wasn't just in a screenshot or something
>>4031331>The question I have for you is do you know of anything else plagiarized in FF?see>>4016694
>>4017405That's a cope. 8 writing problems are bone deep
>>4024124I don't care what anons think. Half of you are mentally retarded, and you taking these fags word as gospel only tells me you are also sub 60 IQ.Like have you read more than 10 posts on this site hahaha
>>4031478Can you read Japanese
>>4017405Most people who love FFVIII don't even know why they love it. They've likely just been won over by the game's atmosphere and aesthetic. Which is entirely understandable; the game has amazing atmosphere and aesthetic, and there's a lot of nuance and charm in the character interactions and dialogue, especially in the early parts. I'd argue FFVIII is actually one of the best in the series in terms of worldbuilding and immersion. If you're the kind of person who loves to get into character, search every nook and cranny, and obsessively chat up every NPC, there's a lot to love here. It's just that very little of it actually has to do with the gameplay or the narrative that drives it.Since the most tangible components of the game are so obviously flawed, fans who want to glaze it will make erroneous claims that the romance is one of the best in gaming (it's not) or that there's hidden subtext that actually makes it a masterpiece (there isn't). FFVIII is obviously rushed as hell, and while it may contain individual elements that seem profound or clever, everything is so slapdash and half-baked that the game is ultimately less than the sum of its parts. In a vacuum, a lot of the character/story elements are fairly interesting and have a lot of potential. But in reality, the game is a slog and most of the characters are just window dressing for a fairly generic "quiet, broody guy gets the passionate, bubbly girl" self-insert fantasy.
>>4033040>there's a lot of nuance and charm in the character interactions and dialogue, especially in the early partsIn fact, if you are the kind of person who really spends a lot of time combing the environments and NPCs for details, there's a good chance that's why you were ultimately disappointed in the game; disc 1 is chock full of things that seem like setups for long-term plot points and/or character growth. But after disc 1 it's like the game completely forgets all of it and just sends you pinballing around a mostly-empty world map just to get things over with.One of the aspects that stood out to me after my last playthrough was just how good the game cultivates the "school hangout vibe" that is popular in Japanese culture. It's almost on the same level as Persona, in a more subtle way. Despite not having names, pretty much all of your fellow students are unique and recognizable, and many of them have "arcs" that continue throughout the game if you're willing to keep checking up on them. The game ultimately does a phenomenal job of "anchoring" the player to a very specific place in this fictional world. It's just a shame that pretty much none of it matters or materially improves the quality of the gameplay or story. Arguably, it clashes with it, since giving that much of a fuck about the school and the students in it is completely out-of-character for the protagonist; from Squall's perspective, it literally makes more sense to just ignore all this work the devs put in and just go from objective to objective.
>>4015974first time experienceVII > VIII > IX (unless you're a furfag, then you can it ranks higher)replayabilityVIII > VII >>>>>>> IX (unless you're a furfag, then you just pretend it's fun to replay)
>>4015974StoryCharactersFunReplayability Game Design (lack of obnoxious features, good use of hardware, etc)FF75/55/54/54/54/5FF81/51/53/51/50/5FF93/53/51/50/50/5Total:FF7 22/25FF8 6/25FF9 7/25FF7 is the best 3D FF game.
>>4031476Sick! Thanks!Btw, I'm open to any and all input into more plagiarism or inspiration people can say within Final Fantasy. I wouldn't be surprised if there's boatloads I've missed, because, shit, I never even heard of Can Can Bunny until this thread. Never would've pieced Tifa's origins together otherwise.Been illuminating, absolutely revelatory
>>4033662Y'know, I think I just had an epiphany. For the longest time I thought Zidane was sourced from Goku, and I think he still is. After all, he is an alien, he was born to kill an entire planet, but was raised to be good by his adoptive parent and had total amnesia to his original purpose. Supposed to be evil but raised to be good. Also he's got a tail and when he goes trance he turns even more monkey like. So seems pretty close.... but that doesn't explain elements like Zorn and Thorn, and then it kind of just hit me. Disney's Hercules has a similar set up, not exactly the same, but similar, and Hercules has got Pain and Panic, two comic relief villains. Maybe that's where Zorn and Thorn came from?
>>4031480>9fag is triggered
>>4033040>there's hidden subtext that actually makes it a masterpiece (there isn't). FFVIII is obviously rushed as hell and while it may contain individual elements that seem profound or clever, everything is so slapdash and half-baked that the game is ultimately less than the sum of its parts.I'll partially disagree with you here, FF8 does contain a lot of sub-text but it ultimately goes nowhere. The game was rushed and became a victim of the cutting room floor as a result. But I dare say that it is also one of the games saving graces, because the world was so well developed and has so many loose ends it leaves the mystery and wonder to the players imagination. Coming at it from a purely critical perspective I can understand your conclusion but I think >Arguably, it clashes with it, since giving that much of a fuck about the school and the students in it is completely out-of-character for the protagonist; from Squall's perspective, it literally makes more sense to just ignore all this work the devs put in and just go from objective to objective.100% with you here. Squall is not the sort of protagonist you should go and explore a world with, that's something right up his fathers alley...
