I tried this in early access and never kept going past the first dungeon. I picked it up recently and it has quickly become my current favorite game. I've been playing skyrim for a decade maybe and thought if I had to hear jarl balgruuf talk about a dragon one more time I'll go insane. Let me just say this is the perfect replacement (though not a perfect game). But it is not some mere "indie skyrim clone" but its own unique thing with a lot to appreciate.I'll start with the bad>expected amount of jank from an indie title, nothing totally gamebreaking though>hitboxes can be iffy, or enemies get caught on terrain>others have reported minor questlines being broken and require reloading a saveThe average>the writing is generally fine, the Arthur lore is interesting, but has some poorer dialogue in places>graphics aren't exactly next gen>a few minor details are blatant ES copies like starting in a dungeon and the lockpicking minigame>quests are not strictly linear, there's usually a couple options on how to complete them, but don't expect total freeform>combat is not incredibly difficult, but you encounter several major difficulty spikes, but it's relatively simple to overcome those with upgrading gearThe Good>combat is like a cross between ES games and souls games>hits feel substantial and dodging/parrying/magic adds in a lot of combat variety>good skills and stats system that allows various playstyles>the maps are big without feeling like they've crammed in useless filler>despite graphics quality the game looks great in places>rewards for exploration and discovery, nothing feels copy/paste>lots of crafting and upgrading systems for food, potions, armor, relics, enhancements that never feel useless>lots of effort into making the world feel coherent and fleshed out, and some interesting lore sprinkled throughout
>>4039633Especially on NG+ but also twoards the end of the NG, the ragdolls get fucking ridiculous to the point that they make gameplay annoying as chasing bodies to loot them, especially for quest stuff, sucks.
>>4039633>Tainted Grail>Indie Good one. This game is firmly AA. Letting it ride with the indie label is an intentional push made by the company so players let the jank and bugs slide.
>>4039633I read somewhere that the PC can get one of their arm bitten off.
>>4039633I really liked this game. Feels like it learned all the right lessons from Skyrim while improving the bad parts. I really like the music too. The expansion wasn't quite as good.
I played it some months ago but while it was fun it was jank and it was very easy to overlevel + act 3 was pretty bare bones and gave you the option to skip the plothowever youtubers have really overhyped it
it was alright for what it was but my big problem with it was it had no reason to run so fucking badly while also looking like that
I finished it few days back and was pleasantly surprised.It's surprising there are so few open world games in this style after Skyrim success.
>>4039656I don't know the difference between the A's desu I'd just always heard the "indie skyrim" label thrown around. Still, I have not encountered any bugs so far that would make this totally unplayable, something which cannot be said for Bethesda titles at least
It's like a somehow duller sidegrade of Skyrim, dropped after 6 hours or so. Making that oversized boring fortress the first (not)town area was a terrible idea but not the only issue.I've gone from liking Skyrim and not knowing better to thinking it's just bad, then realizing it wasn't THAT bad, especially considering that (unlike Oblivion) it wasn't just a shitty version of the previous game, and that to this day nobody has made anything quite like it. But I'd never ask for more of it without major improvements that don't come alongside major tradeoffs.Well, Avalon certainly doesn't come with any major improvements. And there are tradeoffs. And it's been a while since I played Skyrim proper so I'd probably be better off just replaying that even relatively lightly modded. Or Tamriel Rebuilt.I don't know, just feels like a nothing game. Was hoping for either something more original or significantly better execution. And better looking characters.Outward, for example, may have been heavily flawed in terms of execution, but it was certainly unique.
>>4039633its good but way too small. I play open world games by exploring the map first and ignoring all quests and I had explotred the entire map within 3 days.
>>4042790it can be explored very quickly if you just sprint around the map but I've found it's pretty good at rewarding you when you diligently search around, found some unique armor sets on unmarked corpses in random out of the way locations while I was searching for meteorite ores
>>4042631>Avalon certainly doesn't come with any major improvementsEven if you didn't like the game overall the combat is far better just by having dodge and parry options, and stat and skill points. Skyrim combat was heavily dated even for 2011. It lacks both technical player ability, like fromsoft rollslop, and also stat points like other rpgs, even earlier bethesda titles
What are the chances that we get a 2nd paid expansion? They've been very generous with the free updates.
>>4046314Unless devs have been posting on social media or something, where someone knows something I don't, I would imagine it's pretty good. There's been no sign of them slowing down with how often they've been releasing updates and DLC.I hope so though, because while I would love to see a sequel, there's still so much more potential to expand and improve upon things
>>4046345I'll be quite honestI bought the gameI bought all the DLCand have been waiting for the game to be "done" before I play itI just don't have the time or energy to replay these huge gamesso I'm biding my time to see if theres anymore expansions in store
>>4046931nice titties
>>4046940Navigavi does good work
>>4040186This is true. The PC can lose his arm if he approaches a Croakmaw in Act II.
>>4049072do you get to replace it with a magical prosthetic?
>>4050221No.
>>4039656AA as a category has largely dissapeared from people's vocab because every AA studio realized they can call themselves indie and get brownie points
>>4054869Yeah, it's funny when the game isn't self-published and the world indie pops up next to it. Then again, when people say indie, they mostly think - low budget.
>>4057696when I see the word indie I think>walking sim>artsy bullshit>slop that basically exists for some memorable short clips on youtube or instagram or something, but isn't actually fun to playwith a very rare gem that occasionally stands out
>>4057703when I see indie I think woke bullshit and pink haired steven universe fat shaped calarts so I prefer AATainted Grail is like fresh air after decades of those troonfarts
>>4057742Tainted Grail is woke.
>>4057890in what way?
>>4058538It's not very woke. I love it, but the footprint is there. Impossibly masculine woman guarding her village who challenges you to a duel. The gay smith couple. Nothing else is coming to mind. For fairness you can convince a woman to have her baby instead of aborting and join a nunnery. It's the best ending to that quest.
>>4058712>Impossibly masculine woman guarding her village who challenges you to a duelthat's just an opportunity to embarrass a woman that thinks she can be a man
>>4058538Female warriors.
>>4058769are they cute?
>>4057742>>4058538>>4058770Wow, so subtle.
I started playing it today and we have to stop putting parries in RPGs, man. I killed the guy in the tutorial and the knight outside the first castle by parrying them over and over for like 10 minutes while slowly poking them to death. You are invincible in any game that offers them to you.
>>4058861what?
looks and plays horrible. I don't know what else to say. Quickly dropped it because it felt miserable and unfun. The premise is intriguing since I love Arthurian myths but this is just bad. Indie, AA or whatever it's just an ugly piece of shit
My overwhelming feeling while playing is that it should have been a Slaine game. Swap the King Arthur button for a Warp Spasm button and you're good to go.
>>4060288that's kinda mean
>>4039633>I picked it up recently and it has quickly become my current favorite gameSame here. I seem to enjoy these single-player MMO type games like Final Fantasy XII or Dragon Age: InquisitionI'm curious though if the broken quests were reported after the recent big patch or perhaps you were reading some old reports/reviews before they made the big patch a few months ago (maybe a year by now, I can't remember)
>>4057890If that's what you consider woke you're going to have a hard time finding any RPGs to play.Most people seem to love things like Mass Effect, Fallout New Vegas, CP2077, etc. and not consider those woke even though they have way more gay bullshit in them, but if this game/studio was woke I highly don't they would let the player creator just have flat out Male and Female options and the let people in the forums openly praise them for it.
>>4039633how sandboxy it is? what I especially love about TES and always seems lacking in all the games that present themselves as TES-sucessors is that I can just fuck off into the unknown and do my own thing without having to give a shit about a main quest or story demands, and even just roleplay almost to a life-sim degree
>>4063220Well, I even read all the books and everything, but I've been wandering and doing side missions so much that I've played 40 hours and I still haven't even beaten the first act.I guess a lot of people like the darker, Elden Ring-type lands, but I do wish their was more legit cities, and normal people though. While there is a ton of side quests and places and things to discover, this feels way less sprawling than Skyrim.I guess it is understandable being a smaller dev and their first game like this though. Maybe Unity would even just break if they haven't split things into separate acts.
>>4039633its pretty good for a AA game. its better than anything Bethesda have released thats for sure
>>4063220>how sandboxy it is?very. I just ignored all quests and just tried to unlock all areas to explore the world. you'll get your shit pushed in but thats how it should be venturing into areas way above your level. no level scaling faggotry here
Getting my head kicked in for half an hour by the Plaguewraith (all of his attacks 1-shot me) was worth it because the first Red Death ability that makes no attack deal more than 50% of your max HP is the most busted perk I've ever seen in a video game. The only times I've died are fighting dudes who can 1-shot, or near enough 1-shot, me.
>>4050221The magical prosthetic arm is the male-gendered version of the mismatched eyes cliché.
>>4063781it's also a very convenient way to insert gameplay mechanics that would otherwise be awkward or make no physical sense for the characters
Do you guys think the heavy performance has to do with poor optimization or is it just difficult to even get Unity to do this stuff so it's adding a big overhead to everything?
>>4063474It's literally not. Worst take. It's an absolute trash. It couldn't even deliver on its dark fantasy larp. It's an absolute cringe-fest the moment you leave the tutorial dungeon.
>>4063781>if a person who fights with blades loses a limb and uses prosthetic it's a clicheNo, it's occupational hazard. If someone cums during sex you don't scream it's a cliche either, do you?
>>4070618>It couldn't even deliver on its dark fantasy larp.Doing a King Arthur fantasy RPG but being afraid to include any references to Christianity was always a doomed prospect. The whole Matter of Britain is only interesting because it's full of weird early Celtic Christian stuff where it's all muddled in with their old pagan myths in a way which is far more compelling than the either of them on their own.
>>4039633Act 3 really bogs down the whole thing, should've just made it a side area and excluded the main plot from it all together it's very bare bones
>>4039633It's a good bordering on great game.The people in this thread knocking it are either: boring, coomersonlyfans, or potato havers.
>do the menhir thing>before i can move on i have to backtrack to do chores for some fuckerswhat in the filler is this shit?
>>4070903Agreed. There's a lot of jank and the story is all over the place, but it not only hits a specific niche but improves upon previous games in that niche.
the Magic in this is utterly useless on higher difficultly levels, you cant kill anything. and the whole weapons balance is just bizarre. I was causing more damage with a bow and arrow than with a two handed sword, it seemed like a bug.
