There was recently a huge sale on the Atelier series on Steam, anyone else pick up a shit ton of games? I bought the entire Dusk, Arland, and Ryza DX series. Playing through Firis right now, 100%'d Sophie a month ago.>QOTT: What did Gust mean by this?
>>4049046Nah, I'll pirate them I ain't paying a cent anymore for any games until the ram crisis is solved Assuming I will need to pirate in the first place given my massive backlog
>>4049046>What did Gust mean by this?game dev have tiny pp
>>4049046Rorona port is broken, it freezes for like 2 seconds every time it has to load text because of a major programming fuckup and nobody has been able to fix it properly as of last week when I checked yet again. Sophie however works.
>>4049046I picked up Alyshia (whatever the blonde girl in green was) a couple years back but just couldn't get into it at all
>>4049046Good luck with Firis, I just replayed it and it's tedious as fuck, the time limit is a whatever (pretty much impossible to fail) but once you pass the exam and the game opens up it's just bumming around a massive map hoping to trigger the next character event. And you can't fit the full party in your tiny tent, so you have to swap them in and out. And you can't duplicate anything, so have fun remaking that 999 quality Velvetis that you need for your 999 quality weapon or whatever. 999q crimson stones require making an intermediate 600 or 700q crimson stone because that's the only source of high quality gunpowder, ugh. Well, at least you can use a catalyst to make 4x crimson stones at once.>>4060532Some zoomer just made a fix for the menu lag and crashes in both Arland and Dusk games, but it's AI written, so who knows if it breaks something later on, worth a try though, and he's still working on it, so you can report bugshttps://github.com/nicoverbruggen/atelier-arland-fixeshttps://github.com/nicoverbruggen/atelier-dusk-fixes
>>4060651Does quality even affect equipment in Firis? I haven't noticed a difference so far. I definitely agree that it feels tedious, especially the proficiency shit. I think a ton of the game had to be sacrificed in order to try to force this open world thing to work and I don't think it was worth it. The story is basically non-existent and the pacing is awful. Shit just kinda happens to you and it all feels disjointed. Why is Firis just letting whatever Johnny Come Lately into her tent? Why have the only two party members that have joined me so far aside from Liana not even had proper cutscenes introducing them?
>>4060732>Does quality even affect equipment in Firis?It affects all resonance traits (you get a bit over 200% stats at 999q), plus a couple more post-exam traits like Zeal Factor and Happy Heart. Also the effects of Gunade Rings fully scale with quality, so don't make sloppy ones. Though ironically it's impossible to make a 999q Gunade Ring, so just do your best.>The story is basically non-existentAs compared to? This is Atelier. The shitty part about Firis is that all party members except for Liane are optional, so every single cutscene is just Firis & Liane + whoever's event this is. But basically there are multiple town hubs and each has its own story arc. And then the post-exam half has a fuckton of character events (pre-exam you're limited to only 1-3 per party member) and 10+ endings. It is all non-linear though, so it feels meandering and disjointed.Lydie & Suelle mostly goes back to the Sophie formula, no open world, permanent party members.
>>4060746I know Atelier games dawg, my first was Rorona. The story of Atelier games may not be "the chosen one goes to slay the dragon" kind of shit, but they all have an overarching narrative and they all have progression that makes sense.Everything in Firis just feels incidental. You randomly get a knock on your door from a guy you've never seen before, he gives you a key, you fix it for some reason, he joins you and Firis seems to have no qualms letting some strange man she just met sleep in the same tent as her. Heintz or whatever his name is (the characters are so forgettable I literally don't remeber his name) you literally just talk to him once and suddenly he's in your party. But not really because you have to visit an inn or tavern first. But you recruit him before you even know what an inn or tavern is. And the game doesn't tell you what an inn or tavern is when you recruit him, only when you recruit the other guy. Overall I view the game as like Monster Hunter Wilds. They tried shoving an open world mechanic into the game and it doesn't fucking work at all. Ryza they managed to make it work for (for the most part) but that trilogy also suffered for it. Then Yumia comes out and tries to lean even harder into the open world shit and it's by far the worst Atelier game. I'm still enjoying Firis for the most part, but you're being bad faith if you say "this is Atelier" when someone complains about its story.
>>4060912Heintz and Revy are on the road to the first village, try getting a bit further. In particular, there's a lot of story in the port city (Flussheim), but apart from that, most of the story threads are in the post-exam half of the game, the game has 11 party members (not counting Firis) + about another dozen characters with additional events, but all of that opens up only after the exam.https://www.neoseeker.com/atelier-firis/faqs/2823340-taatmj-event.htmlSophie & Plachta join the party after the exam and their story from Sophie 1 will continue, and Luard will be back too, in the form of the homunculi (Meklet & Atomina). All of this is a setup for Lydie & Suelle where their arcs will conclude (decisively, no more cliffhangers). Also, Firis is a major character in L&S and most of the events from Atelier Firis will be referenced, so try to complete as much as you can from the guide I linked above.Atelier Firis has a lot of iffy game design, but Lydie & Suelle is arguably the best game in the series (alchemy, combat, music, story are all perfect and the MC's are brats rather than the boring goody twoshoes), so try to push through it.
>>4049046I already have a shitton of Ateliers, yet I've only ever played Totori on the Vita (god knows how long ago). I love the atmosphere of the games, just finding the time to play them has been a challenge. Starting with Totori didn't help because god getting the various endings was a chore that I didn't have enough energy to complete. Wish I started with Sophie (and on a device that wasn't so criminally underclocked).
i just got atelier sophie but i have no idea what i'm doing
>>4063846Just sit back and enjoy the ride, there's only one singular missable achievement and there's no time limits. Talk to your allies, explore new areas, do plenty of requests to make money and get tickets. The one singular missable achievement has to do with Monica, just pay attention and you won't miss it.
>>4060651>Some zoomer just made a fix for the menu lag and crashes in both Arland and Dusk games, but it's AI written,at this point, i might as well emulate the old editions...
>>4064230Technically there's another missable achievement, you need to craft a philosopher's stone before beating the final story boss (the achievement will pop during the ending sequence though, that's why it's missable, you can't rewatch the ending).
>>4064599Oh right, forgot about that.
>>4060912Firis is my third-favorite game in the series behind Totori and Meruru, but those are fair complaints. Gust didn't do the greatest job of thinking through how to combine the open-ish world and mobile base with their usual character interactions and such.
>>4064784I'm not gonna do the usual 4chan shit of telling you to off yourself for your difference in opinion, to be fair I also still think there's a good game inside there somewhere. Firis herself is a very cute character with a unique backstory and motivations compared to other Atelier protagonists. I can see why people would really love it. But to go from the polished, simple fun of Sophie to the sprawling, poorly explained mess of Firis is incredibly jarring. It's like when you go from Yakuza 0 to Yakuza 1 Kiwami.
What do you think about pic related?
>>4065681All depends on whether or not I can make the AI Ryza rip ass.
i tried playing the one on steam and i had no idea what i was doing
>>4064815Sophie was a bit too simple for my tastes. The characters are likable, and the alchemy mechanics are pretty good in a vacuum, but other than that I found it fairly dull. There's no real friction: no need for any long-term planning, never any significant resource scarcity to deal with, nothing pushing you to take on challenges before you're fully prepared, no ambiguity in what you should be doing at any given moment. It's not about difficulty, but the lack of tension, or any gameplay scenarios where you need to think through your options.I ended up dropping Sophie 2 for similar reasons, even though I think it has some of the best mechanics in the series in some regards. The way the game is structured just doesn't appeal much to me.
https://x.com/Atelier_Resleri/status/2092811276724691395Resna is now officially kill.
Will Karia save Atelier?>>4069299Tfw no offline version and still no Atelier Iris or new Mana Khemia characters until EoS
>>4049046Are these games fun for someone who doesn't masturbate to anime?
>>4069376Nope. There's no actual gameplay, we're all larping. You just look at cute anime girls and masturbate.
>>4069376It's fun for people that actually like playing crafting games.Probably unfun for people incapable of forming their own opinions.
>>4069299>Best Atelier game is ending....AGAINNo...At least they managed to rush the ending instead of pulling the plug. Offline version chances are slim but I'll always hope.>>4069347They didn't even add Lulua. At least they made that one fanart come true by adding Miruca.>Will Karia save Atelier?Impossible. It's too close to what Yumia is so there won't be enough hype around it even if it's good.
>>4069396I wouldn't be too certain. The whole "should she get fat or not" survey did bring a lot of eyes onto the game. If they decide to actually implement it (which I honestly doubt considering how cucked Gust has been lately (looking at you Quartet)) they could bring in a whole new audience.
>>4069402Maybe but even if they implement it in gameplay, I feel it would need to be prominent in some cutscenes and in a marketing trailer to really catch on like that elephant power up in Mario Wonder. But the internet could always surprise either way.
>>4069376Firis is the best one and it's not close
>>4069376Firis is the worst one and it's not close.
>>4069376I like them and I generally dislike cutesy slice of life shit. I just treat having to mash through a lot of the dialogue as tax on crafting autism. The gameplay is enjoyable if planning out broken gear sounds appealing to you and there's really not much competition out there.I second >>4061144 in that Lydie & Suelle is the best, especially if you don't masturbate to anime. The fact that the protagonists are little gremlins going around bullying the NPCs makes all the dialogue a lot more tolerable.
Anyone who says Firis is the best must be conveniently forgetting the absolutely asinine recipe hint system that sucks so much shit the devs had to give you a way to just outright buy recipes.
>>4064230thank you this is good to know, i was worried it had a time limit. it is my first atelier game, i am enjoying it so far
>>4075206Firis is an odyssey that can go on for 100 hours None of the other ateliers do this None of the other games give you a broom None of the other games has this much soul My only complaint is lack of npc variety
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Still needs more yuri at times, though the Mysterious lineup had that fix. Then again, the only real proof that Ryza is stuck in the yuri route is in Resleriana, and there's still no word on an offline version so far.
Is there somewhere i can download those atelier ASMR things? Its such a weird niche i dont even know where to begin to look.
>>4065681i prefer Rorona, because the VA voiced Prisma Illya which makes me cum cups full of Ai's creem.
>>4078701https://japaneseasmr.com/?s=アトリエシリーズOr buy them on DLsitehttps://www.dlsite.com/home/work/=/product_id/RJ01498862.htmlhttps://www.dlsite.com/home/work/=/product_id/RJ01668889.html
>>4049046they are literal kusoges
>>4061144LySue was carried entirely by the previous two games' characters, and going into paintings instead of actually adventuring through a world map was lame as fuck.The best orthodox Atelier is still Ayesha, but Firis was great precisely because it was so experimental while still very much being an Atelier game, however flawed.>>4075268>None of the other games give you a broom Got news for you.
>>4086731And then a hoverboard.
>>4086731Ayesha has the best story and presentation, but the alchemy was starting it's slow slide into boring simplicity so I can't in good conscience call Ayesha the best
>>4086827You may just be right, but my memories of the system are now part of a mush that consists of staring at synth screens of 14 Atelier games for hours on end.Still, as a complete package it's either that or Meruru.
>>4049046I remember trying the pirated version of those games but just felt lost like I'm not sure about what I'm supposed to do next. I.I.R.C., the games could do with some keybindings. I think that I'm going to need some 3rd-party software to be able to play with the keyboard keys I want instead of adjusting myself to how the game wants me to play it(like a lot of JRPGs on PC)
>>4086877I'd say Meruru, it's got fun alchemy and brocon fanservice
