How many hours have you put into BG2? Do you prefer it to BG1? Thinking about starting a new game...still don't think I've explored 40-50% of the game after playing it so many times all these years
>>4064463I finished the game at 194hours.Both are kinda mid, BG1 has better balance and level design, but BG2 has better characters and story.Both didn't age well, the duology of Fallout is better.Baldur's Gate 2 isn't even the best RPG of its year, not even the 2nd best. Very overrated.
>>4064472Thank you for your service.
>>4064472>Baldur's Gate 2 isn't even the best RPG of its year, not even the 2nd best. Very overrated.Which is it then?
>>4064463>How many hours have you put into BG2?easily over 2,000+ hours spread across 20+ years>Do you prefer it to BG1?only slightlyI prefer the low-level wilderness atmosphere of BG1 compared to high level city adventure BG2if BG2 had a collection of rural maps before the major side quest areas, then it would be better than BG1, hands down
>>4064463BG2 is vaaaaaaastly better than BG1.BG2EE is the definitive version because it addresses all kind of technical issues on modern machines. It's ok if you don't like the companions the Enhanced Edition introduces, they're absolutely completely optional and I don't think they're particularly bad anyway.There are many many mods for BG2EE, and I recommend Spell Revisions at the very least.
Finished both (+DLCs) a couple weeks ago. Vastly prefer BG1 though, for a lot of reasons. Chapter 2 in BG2 is everything wrong with the game, plus the story outside of the last chapter or so is so weak.Drag to play; BG1 mechanically is inferior in a lot of ways, but from start to finish it is a great adventure.
>>4064463When I played it around 2002), we didn't have hour counters, kids.And yeah, BG2 had the romances and high level bling and involving protagonist story, and dual wield, but I feel biggest nostalgia for the old one. Also Beamdog fucked up the "enhanced" edition badly.
>>4064659I feel similarly about it. Having a town map with 6 location and then stuffing all quests into it, so that you basically know that every house = quest (and if not, it's a cut quest), was a bit meh. I still loved it but that was a letdown.For that reason, I can't hate the initial dungeon. At least it's a sprawling area with stuff.
>>4064463>How many hours have you put into BG2?A lot. I've played through the game a bunch of times, including some multi-player campaigns with friends.>Do you prefer it to BG1?I sort of get why some people feel otherwise, but I think BG2 was a big step up from the first game. I played through BG1 once and have never felt like revisiting it. I also liked Icewind Dale more than BG1, for that matter.
>>4064663>BG2EE is the definitive version because it addresses all kind of technical issues on modern machines.You can get the GOG versions working on a modern machine in minutes, in 16:9 aspect ratio resolution of your choice. The EEs add new bugs to the original games because Beamdog is incompetent, they add a bunch of stupid new magic items for no reason, and they add extremely cringe new companions.BG1 in particular suffers from being shoehorned into the BG2 engine, since it was never balanced for kits or weapon styles, and the BG2 engine changes the way many spells and items work.>It's ok if you don't like the companions the Enhanced Edition introduces, they're absolutely completely optional and I don't think they're particularly bad anyway.Disagree.
Beamdog is based, I would have never have played these if not for them. They’ve gotten like fifteen years of undeserved hate because of pol schizos
>>4064463I don't remember if it was BG1 or 2 but me and my friends put in an ungodly amount of hours trying to set up multiplayer before we gave up, long long time ago. It was a buggy mess and a subpar experience multiplayer experience once you got it running.
>>4065123>subpar multiplayer experienceWhen "You think you want it, but you don't" rings true
>>4065131>Only one person can see the dialogue, but game pauses for everyoneI don't know, I think there are a lot of things that could just work better
>>4065145Maybe could, I'm no programmer. Buuut I don't think Baldur's Gate 1 & 2 on the whole makes for a good multiplayer experience. That doesn't filter 90% of friends.
>>4065158The multiplayer mode works great. Assign control of all the slots to yourself and roll a custom party then copy the save to the single player folder, boom.
Once I started playing a fighter/mage in this game I can't go back to anything else. Whether it's a berserker mage dual or a fighter/mage multi. Anyone else like this? Spellcasting makes the game more interesting plus you get to bash skulls in. And arcane spellcasting is way better than divine spellcasting. I tried fighter/cleric and fighter/druid but abandoned those playthroughs mid-way realizing I'd rather just be a fighter/mage.
>>4064818>nuh uh!nope
>>4065131I've played it multiplayer but it's a very different experience than playing it single-player. The real-time-with-pause behavior of the combat engine makes it extremely difficult without a group of people who are very very dedicated to the game.
Just finished replaying BG1 (first time was in late 2000s) and damn this game is ass.>maps are either copypasted forests where you spend most of the time clearing fog of war or claustrophobic mazes not suited for your party size>pathfinding is retarded which is really annoying considering importance of positioning, your retards can't even hold formation when walking through an open field>even on second playthrough planning proper party composition is a pain in the ass considering how many niggas only show up in the city>most spells are just casually saved against by anything that warrants using them>dogshit vancian magic system combined with absolute yee yee ass spell roster mostly consisting of shitty buffs you're supposed to stack in obscene amounts BEFORE combat>respawning enemies and random encounters on the road wasting your time>80% of combat is just whiffing autoattacks>all the math that matters is hidden from you>busted ass retarded fake real time with "turns" and "rounds">whenever traps are involved you're better off savescumming thanks to retarded cooldown, Durlag's tower is particularly obnoxious with its trap spam>the absolute AIDS of Baldur's Gate's layout>retarded reputation systemI wonder If I'm gonna have patience to play through BG2 this time, on both of my previous attempts I dropped shortly after leaving Irenicus's rape dungeon.
>>4066438>your retards can't even hold formation when walking through an open fieldOh man if even only this was corrected it would be such an improvement. Too much of the game is babysitting.
>>4066438>all the math that matters is hidden from youStopped reading here
>>4065428What does it matter when you have a 6 man party? Main character could be any class and you'd still have enough micromanaging.
>>4064472When BG2 came out, it was amazing due to the sheer scale and graphics. Such RPGs haven't come out often.But sure, it's only something that you do 1-2 times. D&D is just not great for roleplaying.
>>4064463Like 600, bg1 is kinda nice if you wanna turn off your brain and just get through it imo but bg2 has the actually good gameplay, desu modding it is half the fun to me I must've installed it over 10 times in the last 6 years
>>4065107All Beamcuck did was get the license then strongarm the community into making unofficial patches "official"
>>4064463Zero. I have watched 100 hours worth of retrospectives, reviews and other shit about it though! I have wanted to actually play it for a while but the BG1 seems so boring, and it is kinda cheating starting with 2.
>>4067919>spoiled entire game before even playing itzoomers really have a brain rot
>>4067952I mean why not, the gameplay is shit so he saved himself the hassle of slogging through a mediocre crpg.
>>4067967>gameplay is shityou are clueless and should stick to watching youtube instead of discussing something you have absolutely no idea about
>>4067967>>4064472Since yall are saying BG sucks, what do you actually recommend instead for old school RPGs? And I've played Fallout 1, it was pretty good.
>>4067919>Zero. I have watched 100 hours worth of retrospectives, reviews and other shit about it though!This isn't believableThe problem with anonymous forums, everyone can just make up shit
>>4069789dude people are bored and I, too, sometimes catch myself watching long ass videos about games that I actually should play instead of vicariously and lazily watch someone else play it (and spoil it) for me.
>>4069803Wow really that's crazy haha
>>4069783These guys are faggots, praising Fallout which has much shittier and boring gameplay than BG1 and 2, especially with the SCS mod installed.
>>4069995Correct opinion alertI can accept saying Arcanum and Divinity and shit is better, but anyone saying Fallout is better is a straight up liar
>>4069995>>4070065So Enhanced Edition vs the originals, what do you recommend?
>>4070262The enhanced editions are garbage. Added new bugs, awful new companions, needless magic items, and fucked up the game rules by cramming the first game into the second game’s engine, which changes the way items and spells work, and imbalances it by adding class kits and weapon styles that were never in the first game.
>>4070424it also removed original art like sounds, sprites, loading screens and all the fucking animated scenes FFSIncredible fuckery from the stupid company that did the PoS edition.
I dropped the first game after Imoen called me a queer.
>>4069783Avernum
>>4071515>anon dropped the game because the main romance option flirted with himYou can’t make this stuff up
>>4071515you sound like one.
Can BG2 please fuck off and stop interrupting me with dream cutscenes, companions' small talk and quest NPC jumping me in the middle of a street. There are even random encounters in the city now, what the fuck.
>>4072656>There are even random encounters in the city now, what the fuck.They're not actually random. They only trigger once each.
Both expansions are kinda meh.
>>4071515devs were being cute with that line. despite everyone and their mother knowing what a queer was in the 90's, they still opt'd to use the old definition to describe something that is "weird, odd or peculiar", which had fallen out of use by the end of the 1800's.
>>4074435Bradbury used it in Fahrenheit 451 in 1953
>>4074447he/they knew what a queer was in 53, too.
>>4074435What world do you live in. Queer is still used for peculiar today. Now gay has fallen out of use.
>>4071515Should have told her a story about trollops and plugtails, queer fellow.
