>I finally tried The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind (it was rough)>I FORCED Myself to Play Morrowind >So I finally played Morrowind...>Was Morrowind as good as I remember?>Is Morrowind Better than Skyrim?>Morrowind, but I'm playing like it's 2002>This Morrowind Survival Horror Mod Ruined Me...>Why Morrowind is Worth Playing in 2024
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>Morrowind broke me...>I finally understand Morrowind
>>4064594i played morrowind bc there was gay sex mod so i tried it out but the gay sex was just a fade to black and a little text box that said "you fucked nasty with (npc name)" so i got bored pretty fast. that's why we play skyrim on this board.
>>4064594Before even playing morrowind I rolled my eyes at titles like this and now that I recently started morrowind I roll my eyes at them even more. They are acting like it’s some impossible to beat ancient game that resembles nothing we have today
zoomer cringe cannot be stopped
>>4064945>They are acting like it’s some impossible to beat ancient game that resembles nothing we have todayBut dude, your attacks can MISS! That's practically unheard of in an RPG!
>>4064945They were brainwashed by morrowlennians
Should I unironically wait for a Morrowind Remaster or just buy the game now?t. Skybaby zoomer
>>4065279Wait for the remasterT. Morrowind millennial
>>4064594literally trying to play morrowind right now. im so spoiled by modern games, im hoping this playthrough can re-wire my brain and increase my IQ. >following directions>hit rate/accuracy >walking SO SLOW still only level 1 and it feels like its taking forever to level up.
>>4065279>>4065289Morrowind needs remake more than remaster.
>>4065279download tamriel rebuilt
>Game X Cured My DepressionLOL
>>4065303>>walking SO SLOWI jump everywhere, even from level 1. Just make sure you drink a potion or walk normally when you think you might be fighting, because fighting with an empty fatigue bar sucks
>>4065384Just like how Todd intended the game to be played
>>4065717>Just like how Todd intended the game to be playedYou like to dance close to the fire, don’t you? Todd intended you to use the power of chim to “coc ToddTest” and live out your life with Pretty Kitty.
>>4064594>tried picking up morrowind on PC after putting a couple hundred hours into it on XBox like 20 years ago>the PC interface is terrible>My attacks are *missing* didn't remember that at all...The game is pure assI remember the loading screens were atrocious, and just walking around the telvanni mushroom towers made me want to puke, and bugs prevented me from finishing the game, but the open ended freedom and endless content kept me coming back. Still the gameplay is extremely dated and shitty.Oblivion is what made me upgrade to a 360 on release and it's 10x better in terms of playability. So there's that. I'll just settle for YouTubers cheating their way through morrowind challenge videos.
>>4065743Please source your quotes.
I could never get into Morrowind when it came out. I finally forced myself to come back to it and beat it recently, and it didn't grow on me in the slightest.The main issue is how dead and unreactive the world feels. For example, I was exploring and stumbled upon an orc fortress. I went inside and got attacked by some orcs. I killed them, and noticed that an orc was standing off to the side, watching the carnage. What's his deal, I thought. Is he from a different tribe, and this does not concern him? Is he a prisoner, waiting to be freed? Is he cowering in terror, begging me for mercy? Is he a boss monster, waiting to give a speech before he attacks me? So I go to talk to him to find out. I get the stock standard, what do you want, outlander, response.
>>4065792That's basically every Elder Scrolls game
>>4065792>noticed that an orc was standing off to the side, watching the carnage. What's his deal, I thought. Is he from a different tribe, and this does not concern him? Is he a prisoner, waiting to be freed? Is he cowering in terror, begging me for mercy? Is he a boss monster, waiting to give a speech before he attacks me? So I go to talk to him to find out. I get the stock standard, what do you want, outlander, response.If letting your mind wander as to what some guy might be doing somewhere is not rewarding in itself to you, then yes, you'll be missing out on a significant portion of the appeal. A lot of the NPCs literally don't do anything and won't tell you anything special. But you can still take in the context, like, this woman dressed in rags is standing in front of these canalwork pipes so her job must be to look after them, or this guy is the barman but he won't serve me because I'm a foreigner, etc. I think it's nice to have things in the world that you might never get to fully understand, makes it feel more like a real world with its own shit going on, rather than a playground that very obviously revolves entirely around the player.
>>4065899>If letting your mind wander as to what some guy might be doing somewhere is not rewarding in itself to youI read that other anon's post thrice, but I didn't see him say this.............
>>4065913He literally said his main issue was the world being "dead and unreactive" and he gave a clear example of what he meant. Then I made a point about how the lack of explicit reactivity can be a part of the charm. What exactly are you struggling with here?
>>4065930What is the pipe lady not reacting to?
>>4065972That good old skooma pipe you've been honking on, perhaps? I have no idea what you're trying to tell me. Good night, anon.
>>4065979Ok bye
>>4064594>Flew too high and burnt the wing>Lost my faith in everything
>>4065995topkek
>>4065372And that's a good thing!
>>4065307https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1YWbdZMZoY
>>4065792>>4065899For some reason, you had higher reaction/rep with him so he didn't attack.Yeah, Morrowind/Elder Scrolls is that retarded. Get high charisma, bandits and orcs and everything stops attacking you, they just stand or walk and look dumb.The world did have quite an atmosphere back then, and great music, but seriously Bethesdaslop gameplay is a sad way to waste that potential.
>>4068502There's nothing wrong with gigaCHAds being able to avoid combat through personality checks. You can still kill them if you wish.
>>4068502>For some reason, you had higher reaction/rep with him so he didn't attack.Wrong. Valenvaryon has hostile orcs, with the exception of one orc whose fight score is 30 instead of 90.
>>4064945It is true that the game manual lies to you and doesn't put enough emphasis on agility affecting magic as it should. Playing the game without someone explaining the basic mechanics to you will take quite a bit of trial and error before you get going.
>>4068847Well yeah, different mechanics but that's still what's so shitty about bethesdaslop. It is so cool running around in the world, but then you realise it's not proceduraly generated slop you are expected to kill time with, but pretty close. And the magic system is the same, the items are the same, all the quests are mostly like that.Unfortunate. And that's from somebody that is nolstalgic just from hearing the theme on youtube.
>>4069790The same as what?
>>4068847So he's not even quest related? He's just a random orc who is happy to watch you slaughter his kinsmen?
>>4069916It’s likely a bug, a typo in his creature stats. The other orcs have a fight value of 90-100 while his is 30 (like a townperson)
>>4069916>>4069962Yeah. Sorry to burst the bubble about Morrowind being this immaculate immersive experience.
>>4070225>Sorry to burst the bubble about Morrowind being this immaculate immersive experience.It is an immaculate immersive experience. It's also always been janky as fuck, that's part of the charm.
>>4070231Charm that comes from ignorance and bias. Wasn't that orc just the perfect example of this>nonhostile npc>there must be a story to this!>no>it must be due to my stats!>no>oh my days this jank is just so soulful!At this point it's too late for millennials to back down, so we have to endure this delusion until they die out.
>>4064594>only elder scrolls game where you're canonically a cuckold.
>>4070239I legit feel bad for you kids that have this kind of deep insecurity. Always projecting these bizarre strawmen for you to knock down. Hope you can get over it, little buddy. Can't be healthy for you.
>>4070248Isn't that precious
>>4064944You didn't use the meme arrow so that means you actually do that.>>4065307No it most certainly does not. For once Todd is right about something, even if it's for the wrong reason. Leave Morrowind alone.
My favorite is something to the effect of>Morrowind, an underrated hidden gemIt is neither of those things, it was literally one of the most acclaimed pc games of all time when it came out, I'm pretty sure it won several GotY awards
>>4064594it took me 20 years to finish this god awful game>inb4 why are you playing games you don't like, are you retarded?yes
>>4070362If I haven't heard before, it's a hidden gem
>>4070489It took me about 20 years to finish IWD2 and Oblivion
>>4070497I've never finished Oblivion, played it in 2007 and a few more times here and there, but I always have Morrowind installed on my puter
>>4070506I played Morrowind two times and never finished. It just stops being fun. Last time I stalled out once I got all stats to 100 and still have lots of shit to do. The non-linearity probably discourages me.
>>4070566>The non-linearity probably discourages me.same, you're becoming a demi-god within the first 10 hours whether you want it or not so that time when I finished it I decided to do the main quest only
>>4065279It doesn't need a remaster. I can't even think of any essential mods other than bugfixes.It's not a perfect game by any means and has plenty of jank but none of it really matters.
>>4070609Body remodels with pubic hair
>>4070566The nonlinearity is one of the best parts to me. I've played about six or seven characters to endgame levels and only finished the main quest twice. It's as optional as everything else, and you're perfectly free to play a character that actually doesn't give a fuck about fulfilling the prophecy
>>4070609>It doesn't need a remaster. I can't even think of any essential mods other than bugfixes.Can you think of improvements that could be made?
>>4070609Make argonians uglier
>>4065279>remasterdon't play the game, you don't deserve it.
>>4070613Oh right, I forgot this one. Yep, it's mandatory.
>>4070694All the jank I can think of is rooted deep in the core of its design. It's been years since the last time I played it but I never really felt the need for any QoL improvements.
>follow the instruction video for the total overhaul mod list>Start the installing proces>"This might take up to 3 hours"Nigger you might want to warn people before hand about that
>>4064594These people should play Wizardry 4 or something lmao
>>4064594deny your zoomer consoomer heritageresist the birdbrain thoughts of clicking on any of these obvious clickb8 bullshit videos, and clear your cache semi-occasionally, and youll never see any of this shit ever again
>>4070506>but I always have Morrowind installed on my puteri remember this one time my puter got BSoDd because of some serious HDD corruption or something, and i had to rollback to the earliest possible instance i had of that computer. which ended up being literally everything i had, gone, except for a repack of morrowindwasnt even that mad
>>4071597I deactivated my YouTube history, so when I type Morrowind, those are the top results
>>4071512>total overhaul mod listwhat did you expect
>>4065330no thanks. I am listening to their dev meeting right now, it's all foreigners and fags complaining about it's so hard and time consuming.
>>4073053see this is exactly why faggots like you have such a problem doing anything but making gay posts on 4cucks all dayanon says:>go play some modand your first instinct is>uhhmmm ACKshually i was just seekritly lurking their dicksword dev meeting and blahblahno one told you to go do that. you retard. they told you to go play a fuckin mod.ive never done something that retarded. why was that your idea of how to go check out a mod? why would you even think some modding discord for a 25yo game would be anything BUT a bunch of weird autists? how would you even know where to go in order to listen in on that? did you actually go to their website, then instead of DLing like a GB worth of files and just trying it yourself, you thought, "gee wiz i better go lurk their fucking discord like an autistic faggot"do you even play videogames? or do you just fuck off on dicksword all day looking for fellow autistics to play special olympics with?you dumb dramaniggers are as autistic, if not far more so, than any of the TRannys. which is fucking depressing, because at least they made something with all their wasted time. mfers made like 4 additional morrowinds worth of content, for free, and thats a problems somehow
>find a dead body near town>report to a guard>"Found him huh? Well, it's up to you what to do with that information."The security in Seyda Neen is terrible. Shameless is what it is.
>>4074305he was a tax collector
No morrowind thread and I have a shameless new player question, I have played Oblivion/Skyrim.Not looking to optimize, just want to have fun. Tried the preset nightblade class for a bit, but it didn't really have everything I wanted. Will this build rape me?>Race/sex: Female khajiit>Specialty: Magic>Favored attributes: Speed, Willpower>Major Skills: Mysticism, Alteration, Illusion, Sneak, Spear>Minor Skills: Unarmored, Hand-to-Hand, Athletics, Acrobatics, AlchemyJust worried that the wide attribute distribution on the skills (3 speed, 2 willpower, 1 strength, 1 intelligence, 1 agility, 1 endurance, 1 personality) will make it really weak late-game.
>>4064941>Morrowind killed my dog>I get it now
>>4064594
>>4077723That is fine. You can never be weak late game unless you're retarded, you can be not as strong as some fag minmaxing but you should never be weak. Exploring the world will lead you to good items which is where a lot of your power will come from. Knowing where the best handplaced loot is and knowing how to abuse game mechanics are how people get OP early. Even if you somehow fuck it all up, alchemy exists and you can make +1000 stat potions that lasts 100000 seconds even if you start with 5 alchemy as a misc skill.
>>4077723Looks good. Low alchemy will start out grindy though.
>>4077723Looks good to me, anon. It's not really something you should be too concerned with as a new player, but it's actually good to have a broad spread of attributes in your non-class skills, since it allows you to level attributes without increasing your character level too high - if you want to raise Strength you can go pay for some lessons in Long Blade for example, or Heavy Armour for Endurance. Compared to later games there's no cap on the number of times you can train per level, and training is very cheap at low skill levels.
>>4077723>will make it really weak late-gameno such thing
>>4064594Most morrowind "fans" on the internet being larpers? NO WAY!
>>4077723>female Khajiit>Will this build rape me?you wish, you furry sicko
I cannot even imagine how much of a braindead retard you have to be to spend your time watching youtube garbage, kys.
>>4064594>I am playing Morrowind, but on PS VitaWish me luck brehs
>published in '93>elf city named MorrowindlSo that's where they got the name.
>>4085830>Morrowind, but on PS VitaCool. Through openMW? How is it?
Anons, how much fun and viable is a pure caster with heavy armor in MW? Also are staves useful to a caster playthrough, or are useless like in vanilla Skyrim?Recently played Warcraft 2 and got the idea of making a death knight warlock in the game.
>>4095173How were staves useless in skyrim?
>>4095173There aren't any penalties to casting in armour. Full caster is annoying though because a lot of mid-to-high level daedra have passive spell reflection, spells never reduce in cost, and magicka only scales from INT instead of increasing with level.Most staves are pretty bad, but ebony staves have by far the highest enchantment capacity for any held weapon. You'd mostly be using staves for roleplay reasons until then.
>>4065279Im a zoomer and Morrowind was my first TES game, I played it before oblivion even released.What do these generations even mean?
>>4065279>Should I unironically wait for a Morrowind Remaster or just buy the game now?It's already remastered, its called Openmw. An official remaster wouldn't be worth playing cause it won't have Project Tamriel or Tamriel Rebuilt
>>4098711>It's already remastered, its called Openmwlol, lmao even>An official remaster wouldn't be worth playing cause it won't have Project Tamriel or Tamriel RebuiltBait used to be believable
>>4095202>but ebony staves have by far the highest enchantment capacity for any held weaponclearly a typo by the developers, sweetiefixed in patch for purists
>>4074410And?It's just softly lampshading the fact that the game expects the player to take the intended action, instead of the logical thing happening, which is the authorities actually doing something about it. Not giving the player the ability to talk about it with everyone would also be more "logical", but then the player would likely not know where to go (the journal entry immediately telling the player exactly where to go wasn't really what TES was about at the time). Same thing when some NPCs comment on the fact that nobody seems to ever sleep - just where do they get all the energy from?!
>>4098711Can you niggers stop recommending fanfiction mods? Openmw is just fine.
>>4100010>clearly a typo by the developers, sweetie>fixed in patch for puristsIt's PROBABLY a typo, because it seems unlikely and inconsistent that ebony was intended to be greater in enchantment value than daedric. But many of the enchantment values are seemingly odd, without clearly being errors. Why do wood and steel have more than silver? Why does fucking dreugh have more than glass (glass has less than anything, including the cheapest and lowest tiers)?This is the problem with modders stepping out of "designer intent is clear, functionality is obviously broken and not working as intended" bugs and getting into "intent ambiguous, requiring interpretation and some subjective guesswork"
So this is the thread? Why aren't we at vg?
>>4102391do you see screenshots of double J cup sized plastic dolls or naked 11 year olds here?no?then it does not fit the theme there
>>4102418>double J cup sized plastic dollsCare to share?
I don't know why I bother asking in /vg/.I am planning a run with a Dunmer Heavy Armour Atronach Battlemage in Morrowind with all of the PTR stuff. I know fucking original, but it's literally my second one. Also, I like builds to be functional but I'm mostly in it for the roleplay.I really want to run either a Halberd or a Claymore, but I'm worried about not going for the mace of Molag Bal due to the Atronach stuff.My questions are:1. I'm ogling some artefact Claymores like the Ice Blade of the Monarch, which would be really cool for the RP I'm going with and Chrysamere, which is really good. Any other recommendations?2. All of the Halberds suck dick and are only good for thrusting in vanilla; any good ones in the mainland and beyond?3. How much would I suffer by leaving the Mace of Molag Bal and Blocking aside for this? I've also noticed you can equip a shield even when using a two-handed weapon; I assume enchantments still work?
>>41102283. Depends on mods, vanilla behavior is shield + 2h = shield encantment/armor rating work>worried about anything in morrowindlol
Daily reminders and affirmations for true Morrowind fans.>using modsYou didn't play Morrowind.>using OpenMWYou didn't play Morrowind.>using GOTY edition or the DLCsYou didn't play Morrowind.>using anything other than Dark ElfYou didn't play Morrowind.>using anything other than Small BladeYou didn't play Morrowind.>caring about anything beyond the Main QuestYou didn't play Morrowind.
>>4110864Forgot to add:>using anything other than 4:3 resolutions at 30fpsYou didn't play Morrowind.
>>4110865>30fpsT. the kid with rich parents
>>4110865>not playing in a 14" CRT TVYou didn't play Morrowind.
>>4110885Morrowind and other 3D games of that generation don't really benefit much from CRT screens.
>>4110894
>>4110895Looks very good. However, 2D games benefit much more from the blended pixels offered by CRT screens. For Morrowind, it is much more important to preserve the original textures and especially the draw distance.
>>4110895It bothers me that I remember a morrowind review on Youtube with some hip young guy and his CRT monitor setup but I can't find it anymore
>>4110900Isn't it PatricianTV?
>>4110940No, it was an old video from the soul era of youtube
>>4065279if you can't play the game you are too much of a faggot anyway and only the original game will have PT and TR
>>4069475>manualno one is reading them anyway granpa
>>4065303Lol its a video game, if you want an iq increase you are better off reading and studying non fiction
To all the new fags in this threadMorrowind is an incredibly easy game only made difficult by how poorly it conveys information For instance the weapon damage value like 1-32 is not a randomly damage variance Its actually how much damage you do if you spam click vs hold down until the animation playsIf you mash left click with an axe you will only do 1 damage before str modifiers if you hold it for a second until the pull back animation is done you instead do 32.Very confusing, game doesn't tell you that anywhere.Fatigue obviously plays a massive part in accuracy People say enchanting fixes any build issues but actually not really. Only a few pieces of endgame gear have enough enchant value to be worth anything but desu any build can clear the game just walk into combat for max fatigue and have an okay skill. Enemies stats are pitifully low in the Base game The dlc is where shit gets aids
>>4116250>Very confusing, game doesn't tell you that anywhere.Stopped reading here, yes it does
>>4116261Post where it tells you that
>>4116265>Post where it tells you thatPage 6 of the manual."The longer you hold down the button, the harder you'll swing. Swinging harder does the maximum damage a weapon has. Swinging lightly is faster, but does minimum damage."
>>4116270Lol manual More time has passed with games not having those then did.Still not enough info compared to just making the menu graphic make it more clear or just remove short attack anyways since 1 damage is dogshit
>>4116284And here I thought that you would acknowledge that you were foolish, and I would forgive your foolishness, and we would have a teachable moment for the lurkers.>Lol manualYes. It came with the game. You were expected to read it. You can even download it for free off Bethesda’s website.>More time has passed with games not having those then did.When Alexander gazed on the pyramids, they were older to him then, than he is to us now. What is your point, other than squirming in deflection?
>>4116288Blah blah nobody reads manuals especially for something thet could have been easily in the tool tip Easy game only hard by retarded ui designers
>>4116288>You were expected to read it.No you weren't. Nobody read manuals.
>>4116319>>4116620The absolute state of RPG "fans"
>>4086040>Morrowindl was a large island located in the Blue Divide, several days flight off the coast of the Westland. Roughly two hundred miles across, its landscape was dominated by Killeshan, an unstable volcano. Sheeeeeit
>>4116270>>4116288NTA but reading actual physical manual on your way back home after buying the game as a giga hyped lil boy ready to get home and install it might have been one of the most wonderful gaming experiences. But let's be honest, fucking nobody reads manuals nowadays. And it makes sense when everything is a boring piece of 50 pages pdf anyway.
>>4118217>But let's be honest, fucking nobody reads manuals nowadaysYes, that’s why they come to cry on 4chins about how the game is so obtuse, how were they possibly expected to know [piece of information explicitly spelled out in the beginning of the manual], why didn’t it hold their illiterate hand more, there was just NO WAY anyone could possibly know that
>>4118420This is why basically every videogame board in this site is unusable, with the possible exception of /vr/. Retards ruin everything they touch.
