When kcd-III comes out, the series will become the single best immersive rpg trilogy ever. The fact that both first games use exactly the same engine is awesome. The continuity in feel is unequaled. They could have taken exactly the same gameply, slapped a new story on top of it and the game would also have been awesome. But no, they refined the gameplay, trimmed off some excess, expanded in interesting directions.Lets not even talk about the fact that there is zero competition.
I loved KCD1 and 2. I got enough minor/nitpicking complaints about KCD2, especially some writing parts. Zizka "muh war is always bad and we HAVE to burn down Maleshov. Don't ask why just be a good boy and follow orders we MUST burn it down... Because this is war and war is always le bad". If you choose to let it happen you can even hear the band killing villagers. Too bad Henry can't pass a scholar check to explain the economic and political benefits of not slaughtering civilians. I just wish we got more of Theresa in my Medieval Coping Simulator 2
Theres little point for another studio to look at kcd and try to replicate it. People dont rly care about copycat products, theres lots of bad stuff like the combat and boring quests, boring world with little interesting stuff in it. Also the protagonists main story ended like halfway through kcd2, and rest of the game was about jews or some shit. What do you need kcd3 for?
KCD2 was a huge step backwards from the first game.
>>4066302dont bother telling us why you think this anonjust make your retarded statement, totally in disconnect with reality, and move on with your day
>>4066293All efforts to bring the captured king back will be for nothing. Wenceslaus will die, and the Hussite Wars will be a a proper setting for KCD3.
Musa of Mali + gay shit + unskippable Jew protecting goodgoy segment= woke trash
>>4066345Worse combat, worse story, it's that simple.
>>4066345combat did not improve,I'd argue it regressed with how dominant sword became with master strikespolearms are one of those magical weapons that are worse than rusty axe in player's hand but objectively annoying in npc's handscrossbows and guns are pointless, former doesn't deliver enough punch to warrant the slow reload latter is unreliable at anything that isn't within spitting distancepickpocketing looks goofy with you fiddling with front pouchescrime system is even more paranoid now, as soon as you bump into NPC or walk into no-no rooms NPCs will start panicking and search every drawer to check for missing itemsalchemy is even more tedious and your herbs dry up within a day Act 2 is still blatantly unfinished, there is fuck all activity within KuttenbergDLCs are atrocious Brushes with Death >endless task of fetch quests, plot twist is boring, shield painting is worthless since they are active detrimentLegacy of the Forge>HEY YOU, YES YOU>would you like DAILY MMO QUESTS inside your SINGLE PLAYER GAME?Mysteria Ecclesiae>did you miss thre Monastery Quests from 1? No? Too fucking badother than that, it is endless Humiliation Rituals for Henry, literal whos beating up Henry, you don't even get Knighthood or anything as a reward hate letter to the fans the game
>>4064729>he doesnt know>Warhorse are making a Lord of the Rings RPG thats going to keep them occupied for the next 10+ years, there wont be a KCD 3
They turned my boy Hans into a flamer. Fuck this series.
>>4069011>Hans, get the flammenw-Fuck. It's so ogre.
>>4069011I hope he gets TOPPED by Musa's BBC in KCD3. If they don't the game is woke right.
>>4066284>Too bad Henry can't pass a scholar check to explain the economic and political benefits of not slaughtering civiliansIt becomes even more gratihng when you realize that medieval armies generally avoided killing civilians for exactly this reason. For a game that pays this much attention to historical fidelity it was jarring, clearly just done for shock value and to stick with "muh war bad" even though actual medieval wars weren't that bloody.
>>4066352SPOILER THAT SHIT FAGGOTI even live in the country did you think I wanted to know this in advance?!
>>4064729KINGDOM CUM IN GUYS :DD
>>4064729both games are dogshit and not immersive at all. in a game about eating it has less cooking mechanics than skyrim. in a game about realism it has magic potions that break the game. there's no real freedom, no real choices, no real character creation, its just learn combos and complete the same boring quests weve seen a thousand times. get better taste.
>>4072118Imagine a game being released in 2026 where townsfolk exclaim “Jesus Christ be praised!”
>>4072118>in a game about eating it has less cooking mechanics than skyrimwhat retarded logic is this? Henry is not a cook.The game is also about wearing fancy clothes to seem charismatic yet the game has zero clothes fabrication mecanism. >in a game about realism it has magic potions that break the gameDo you also moan when in basically all videogames, your character can slow jog forever? Its a video game anon, who the fuck wants to have to spend one week ingame in bed everytime he meets a bandit?Also, nobody is forcing those potions down your throat.>the same boring quests weve seen a thousand timeskek kcd's quest boring? lmao. The game has some of the most original quests ever, you never know how any of it will end. When was the last time you got drunk and visited some sheeps with the local priest in any other game?Dont answer me, hater. You know where the door is.
>>4064729>>4069601>>4066284I created this thread but cannot fully participate in it because of potential spoilers.Forgive me. But this is a slow board, surely the thread will still be up by the time I've finished kcd2 and even in half a year like that other pathfinder one, hm?
>>4064729>Supposed to lead men into battle>Doesnt even wear armour>Gets reckedlol
>>4072168in the second game you literally help pedophile worshipping muslims help conquer and rape other people for no reason. its not based.>>4072346>Henry is not a cookso we can't learn to make our own stews or anything? i just have to rely on magic pots of food that refill instantly sometimes when you're not looking? fucking stupid.>who the fuck wants to have to spend one week ingame in bed everytime he meets a bandithow about visit a doctor to get it stitched up? or how about the game actually sticks to its realism guns and yeah, it makes you actually heal from shit. you can't just parade around "MUH REALISM MUH REALISM" when its not realistic at all, its the same ultra fantasy as the witcher 3 with none of the cool shit like magic or creatures. its like a mall ninja using a katana to be "realistic".>When was the last time you got drunk and visited some sheeps with the local priest in any other game?i remember that quest, it was fucking annoying and dumb. i would never do something that retarded in real life so i had to just go along with it to see where the story went, i did well during the sermon, but it was still unfulfilling. even, then, thats one quest. the rest of them are just clearing bandits or activating specific objects in specific places and thats it.one more thing that really pisses me the fuck off about this dogshit game. one time, i needed an axe. i found an axe in a tree stump. but you know what? it wasn't a real axe. it was just scenery. an sprite. an empty husk of a digital object. you know how disgusting that is? after a game like oblivion came out a decade previously and made every single object a real object? its downright appalling. no idea how you enjoy this awful shit.
>>4072346> Do you also moan when in basically all videogames, your character can slow jog forever?Morrowind. Home.
>>4073362>in the second game you literally help pedophile worshipping muslims help conquer and rape other people for no reason. its not based.Again. Could you imagine a game in 2026 coming out and praising Jesus Christ? No, because the mask is off. You vill defend ze synagogue of Satan against ze intolerant bigots.
>>4072351Travel to a shrine and perform 3 Hail Mary's. Your sins will be forgiven.'Good' Henry is the best way to play the game imo, do not stray from the proper path (and stay loyal to best girl Theresa)
>>4069773I wanted to insult you in my response but you know what, you are right. >>4072346There is not a single quest I disliked apart from repeated activities such as the forge prestige. And then it was mostly the travelling for investigations (which you can skip).4chan told me about Musa and about the Jews and while the writing wasn't as good here and there, it wasn't nearly as bad as some alarmists claimed. I loved drinking with the Cumans.
>>4074226>'Good' Henry is the best way to play the game imo, do not stray from the proper path (and stay loyal to best girl Theresa)Imagine playing a game like this as anything other than a virtuous paladin
>>4074441I would rather LARP having a relationship with a woman. Only Theresa, nobody else. Ahh yes I forgot to say. The possiblity of romance between Henry and womanizer Hans Capon is utterly retarded. Men can't have great friendships without modern media shoehorning them into gay shit. It's the very first thing IGN uploaded when the game came out. Rating would probably be 7/10 at most otherwise instead of 9/10.Only game 'journalists', retards and streamers pick gay shit.
>>4074441>Imagine playing a game like this as anything other than a virtuous paladinNah I will bed every wench that allows it and head back home to impregnate Theressa. Body count is 3 for now.
>>4074489>The possiblity of romance between Henry and womanizer Hans Capon is utterly retarded.Why is it retarded?I appreciate having choices in my rpg, even if those choices will not be chosen. The depraved Hans being open to gay shit is only natural. The most hony men and women are often bi.
>>4074659I explained why in the very first sentence after it. It's Baldur's Gate 3 method of companion writing where the supposedly highest form of love is fucking each other. Friendship is a great thing, but media is so oversexualized that they cannot seperate it from romantic love. Henry and Hans are set characters, imagine Geralt from The Witcher 3 going to bed with men just to provide players the 'choice'. It is bad character writing
>>4074854>I explained why in the very first sentence after it.no you did not.Saying Hans & Henry cant be gay for eachother because of real world reasons and real world politics is not a reason. I tried to explain to you in my previous response why its plausible, giving you in game world reasons.P.S if you are an artist but you limit yourself because of politics or what other artists are doing, then you are a shitty artist.
It's getting kind of boring after killing everyone from the wedding which was fun.
>>4075605Real world reasons are not a reason, what? I'm not even saying the possiblity is 0%, it is just lazy storytelling.Two men from different backgrounds are off to a bad start. Through circumstances they are forced to put up with each other. After saving each other's life multiple times, go through hardships and good times alike. A great friendship is slowly created. This is based storytelling akin to Frodo and Sam.Retard conclusion: "male friendship = lmao gay lovers" Imagine Witcher 3 with Geralt suddenly having the option to fuck dudes or even Dandelion. The presence of the option is not freedom in storytelling, but goes against the established character.
>>4075605>I tried to explain to you in my previous response why it’s plausible, giving you in game world reasons.You are like the retard who justified nogs being in rural medieval Bohemia because it “could’ve happened”
>>4075605>>4075884This response wasn't mine btw, but feel free to call me a retard. It makes 4chan discussions more fun and lively
>>4075884Are you really a fucking idiot comparing homosexuality to a certain population being somewhere they were physically unable to get to?
>>4076178>Are you really a fucking idiot comparing homosexuality to a certain population being somewhere they were physically unable to get to?Something something trade routes, you can't explain that.
>>4076178>it only takes a single night at an inn!
>>4064729How cool is it that in this game, you get to hang out with the one and only legendary Zizka !?
>>4081176They already made the game into fanfic by adding blacks, retconned protag and hans to be gays and latter half of the game is some jew victimization fantasy.Why didnt they change the names to fit english better?
>>4081177you are nit-picking, the game gets almost everything right !
>>4064729Peak comfy
>>4064729>When kcd-III comes outIt won't be called KC:D3 though, probably something else like Kingdom Come: Retribution or whatever.Didn't the devs say that it will no longer be Henry's story?
>>4074659>The depraved Hans being open to gay shit is only natural. The most hony men and women are often bi.Is their relationship presented as depraved and perverted or tender or loving you disingenuous faggot?
*Ahem*Here's a toast to all of the strong, beautiful women out there. May you be CONFIDENT, may you be COURAGEOUS, may you be EMPOWERED.
>>4095098Katerine was of great help, and that name is of great importance in the live of zizkaand women in general in the game are of great use, their twat feel like heavenso i think its makes total sense, and is totally period accurate to drink to them
>>4090648>Is their relationship presented as depraved and perverted or tender or loving you disingenuous faggot?I think you hit the core there: these people are disingenous. They keep pushing for gay shit in media with the options argument. "It's just fiction, it's just a game, it's OPTIONAL". Imagine asking the same person if Henry should have a scholarship skill check in which he denounces gay people by quoting bible verses, or blackmail a man by threatening to expose his secret. Should be perfect for an evil playthrough, but they would denounce it at every turn. The pinnacle of storytelling is not infinite options, but authentic actions and reactions. Henry in KCD2 mostly reacts. Burn down a village? Don't propose a better plan, just duel and let Zizka decide on what to do next. African muslim who joined the court of someone who actively fought against muslim expansion roasts your country and lusts after the women? Don't rebut, simply listen in awe. Would these people support having an option in the beginning to turn on gay shit? Better yet, would they support non-gay shit being the default option? No, everything must serve their agenda. Any non-compliance must be coated in compliance. No 'bigoted' character flaw may go unpunished.
>>4095262> Imagine asking the same person if Henry should have a scholarship skill check in which he denounces gay people by quoting bible verses, or blackmail a man by threatening to expose his secretI’m fine with the gay options and I’m also fine with this. Particularly the blackmailing one.> Would these people support having an option in the beginning to turn on gay shit?Why should there be a gorillion options to protect the feelings of retards? You’ve been mindbroken by the culture war.
>>4069601We have a word in English to describe the practice of attacking civilians in an attempt to force an enemy to fight. It’s not something that never happened.>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevauch%C3%A9e
>>4088591That could use a highway and a data center...
>>4098095>It’s not something that never happened.Are you yanking my pizzle?LITERALLY nobody is saying it never happened. When the player chooses not to burn down the village, all you can do is stand there like a retard or duel. Then later characters will either roast you or praise you for your decision, where Henry will once against stand there like a retard instead of telling Zizka all the reasons whu it would be unwise to burn it down.
>>4098083You sound honest, I will admit to it.My reasoning is that Henry and Hans are retconned into being gay. If gay characters are retconned into being straight the internet would explode
Beer>Wine
>>4064729So apparently, Katherine is a romance option but she is fucking Zizka, is this a bit awkward? Is it kinda like a menage a trois situation?I personnaly refuse to romance her because she must have an insane bodycount.
Mishka best girl
>>4100022every woman growing up in those small villages fucked everyone btw
>>4100103Nah that lord's daughter is best girl. She once lored me into her room to "write a book" together and I was so dissapointed when we did just that. Her book was naughty as fuck, Im sure she is a huge slut, I hope I will get to bed her.
>>4100163>>4100163Nah-uh, not my Theressa
>>4064729I love how this 'humble kinght' whomse quest I refused keeps respawning and I keep killing him and he has an expensive golden crucifix on him kek
local man goes on Kuttenberg rampage
fatality
ACK
>>4104602>>4104838>>4104839>>4104848but anon, how will you justify these senseless murders to your conscience's manifestation of your dead parents
>>4075605>P.S if you are an artist but you limit yourself because of politics or what other artists are doing, then you are a shitty artist.As though the option to be a faggot wasn't a politically informed choices in the first place...
>>4098137>>4095262>these people are disingenous>You sound honest, I will admit to it.Honesty is a concept which is only known by people like that as a means to profit off of honest people. For the virtueless, there's no reason to try to appear virtuous. There's nothing honest about saying >Why should there be a gorillion options to protect the feelings of retards? When the gay shit is added specifically to protect the feelings of retards. He'd only agree with the blackmailing because you specified it would be "evil". What's evil about opposing homosexuality?
>>4064729>I remember every one I kill. Don't you?holyfucking kino
>>4064729Sorry Anon, the cancer was already terminal on the second game and frankly, the first one wasn't that great either, just different during a time when there's very little different content to go around.
>>4064729It could be the best game in the world and I would still refuse to play it. I will never play as a bohemian.
>>4110424Fucking hell, no no, my Henry has killed so many. Apart from soldiers, bandits, sitatuation of self defense, my Henry has slaughtered alot. My Henry will whack you just to save a few groschen, despite already having thousands. My Henry surely doesnt remember them all.
>>4110424"Your honor I didn't carry out the murders, I merely gave the orders". I loved the scene and it is probably enough to make most normalfags feel remorse for the chaotic way they play. Pretending Von Aulitz did not murder thousands because he did not personally kill them is a braindead take though.
>>4066373>alchemy is even more tedious and your herbs dry up within a dayLiterally just dry them. The only tedious part is that you can't access storage through the bench so you have to manually withdraw your bank of dried herbs whenever you want to brew which is also only an issue if you're doing an all negative perks hardcore run because weight is at a premium.
>>4114924First need to level up alchemy and get the proper perk. Otherwise dry herbs will ruin potion quality.
>>4110444What brand of European autism is this
>>4114979That's pretty quick given you do that for money right out of the gate.
>>4113023>I merely gave the ordersFirst of all, he is also taking orders.I always found it odd that Henry is so angry at Markvart when Sigismund was right fucking there, besides him, giving the order to attack.Second of all, I dont think Markvart is pretending he did not cause the death of the people he didnt kill personnally. His point is that 1) War... is a nasty business. A point that, imo, contains many more committed horrors than just the personal killing of a few men. A point repeated by close allies of Henry.2) Henry himself and the people arround him, are not different from Markvart. And thus there might be people out there who hate Henry as much as Henry hates Markvart (even if those people dont know it is Henry that they hate)That conversation with Markvart caused my Henry to put away the sword and settle down with Theresa. Because the life of the warrior often leads to either committing those atrocities or losing the day.
>>4114979>>4114924You only need one fresh herbs amongs all the materials to create the best quality potion. (Be it Strong or Henry) quality. So dry the herbs, when you need a potion, go search for the closest fresh herb.
>>4064729>The fact that both first games use exactly the same engine is awesomeCalling them the same engine is like calling unreal engine 3 and 5 the same engineThough in case of cryengine it actually improvedI wish first game got a remaster with new cry engine, modders are doing great job at upgrading assets but lack of antialiasing in the engine cannot is very apparent.
>>4074441Did they fix the bug where Katherine rapes you? Because during my first playthrough that's exactly what she did.
I fucking love Atilla.Pebbles and Herring caused me so much stress.
>>4116328Because Von Markvartk killed his parents.He is right that war is a nasty business. Some see the killing of innocents as a necessary evil, some don't care and others seem to enjoy it. I like that the game places us in a band of cutthroat killers who don't change their ways because Henry asks nicely. My point is that Henry should not stand idle while he is being roasted for refusing to torch a village.
Markvart? More like Markfart.
>>4121397>others seem to enjoy itwho? Who seem to enjoy it?
>>4064729There's no magic. I can go outsider and talk to people and romance far hotter guys and it'll be way more immersive and I can even keep the actual real money I gather by doing it.
KC2 was so fucking good until they had jews. I have nothing against them in real life but this shit felt so forced it made me stop it towards the end.
>>4064729trash, kcd2 is worse than 1, the combat is worse, the story and world is worse and the quests are worse.
>>4122281>[X] was so fucking good until they had jewsMany such cases
>>4122281>this shit felt so forcedHow the fuck is it forced? Its literally the time period when you had such events. Any time a ruler needed money, he could do what transpired in game. Also, I dont know about you but I've never actually lived such an event in a game apart from a Crusader king event but that very abstract. Simon is also kino btw.
>>4122360>the combat is worseyou are so fucking right, it was better when you were getting master striked by peasants
>>4122281They missed their chance by having a cute jewess as a romance option.
>>4122389The one thing I will say is that they overbuffed swords.
>>4122386You mean its literally the time period when there were no jews in the Kutna Hora? Actually never mind that, there were never jews living there in the first place.At least its funny they want us to sympathize with Erik who was leading the pogrom lmao.
>>4122389Weird, I completed first game like 3 times and I don't remember this even being a problem. Meanwhile in KCD2 peasants masterstrike me every time in fist fights when I'm not spamming kicks.
>>4122694Anon, the peasants that masterstrike you in fistfights are fairly adept fistfighters. Of course they're going to masterstrike you.
>>4064729Late on the hype train but I don't really care. Maybe I should actually get this game instead of fence sitting. Heard there's mod that makes the game tolerable and enjoyable even (mostly qol stuff), but if you need mods to make your game playable than it's probably shit. Hmm I dunno...
>>4122788I like the accurate represatation of pro fighting left to the wealthy professionals while fist-fighting, which requires absolutely no entry cost, is left to the poor peasants, and they are bloody good at it kek
>>4064729>trimmed off some excesdumbed down streamlined slop you mean
>>4122819Definitely get it. For every criticism I have there are more things I love about it
>>4122788Yeah? And when I defeat a grandmaster in every region and max my skills, I still cannot counter it
>>4120382Skill issues.
>>4122819It's perfectly playable without mods. Only mods I have installed are1. Exaggerated facial expressions which look hilarious2. No speed limit in towns (without a mod you can't gallop in towns on a horse) to save time3. No herbs pickup animations to save time (you can play the game without ever picking up herbs if you want to, in my current playthrough I did 0 alchemy, only picked up some herbs in the prologue to get a stat boost)Don't trust "rebalance" mods, they are made by mouthbreasers for mouthbreasers to make the game boring (it's not a hard game in the first place, you don't need to make it easier, trust me). Neither do you need free saves, the game autosaves very often and you get more savior schnapps (an item that lets you save manually whenever you want) than you can ever use.If you haven't played the first game, start with it, because the story is connected. And it's really good. There were some very good mods released lately that backport features from second game, but I didn't get to try them yet.First game doesn't autosave on hardcore, so keep that in mind, make it a habit to sleep when you can or drink savior schnapps before challenging fights or stealth activities.
>>4122819Kcd2 did really well with the autosaves and alchemy isn't a huge issue.Kcd1 yeah just get the save mod.
First one was fun, I went all out and disabled everything including the compass and got lost in the woods for hours trying to the right back to the town. Extremely immersive experience, truly felt like a dumb peasant
>>4130615Sounds like fun timesHardcord more is the one true way to play. Apparently, those games are so realistic that in kcd1, it is possible to navigate by looking at the night sky. I know nothing about finding the 'nord costellation' so I couldnt verify it myself
If I get pulled over I have to try some of henry's excuses.
>>4130790Hardcore is fun but KCD has a nasty bug that rotates your horse in random direction when you open the map or inventory on horsebackSo when you try to find your way around the game sabotages you on every opportunity
>>4131112I think that's because the movement controls don't completely deactivate until the map is fully open. So if you hit M and move your mouse before the map fully opens you're still controlling henry
>>4131124This happens only when you ride a horse and you don't control your horse with a mouseI think in the first game you just despawn often when you pause the game by opening menu, and when you respawn you face another direction. I didn't really pay attention if it's random, maybe you face the same direction every time.
When you finish The Fifth Commandment quest, Lumir says Mandelina is locked up for now. That's a total lie. I went to rathaus jail and inspected everuy cell, she's not there.
The first one (i probably wont buy the second one out of principle, i ratiod that faggot developer on twitter once about the BBC and gay sex mechanics) was actually pretty good as a game to wander around in but the combat was sooooooo bad that i still cant make myself reinstall it to finish. It masquerades as action combat when its really just about grinding your skills until henry swings his sword faster than the other guy
>>4131112>when you open the mapto be fair anon, you are not even supposed to have a map available irl at all times at that moment of human history.>>4131637Henry and Katherine have the possibility to talk about it a bit further into the adventure. That old whacko wasnt locked in a cell like any peasant or even noble poacher would be. She was actually placed in house arrest and thus escaped all justice by virtue of her standing in the society But I'm glad that you also spared her. I did it for Katherine, I didnt want her to stain her soul with murder, plus we wouldnt have gotten away with it.
>>4132343>i probably wont buy the second one out of principle,kek you dont know what you are missingif the first was an 8/10 the second is easily a 9
>>4132898NTAI would’ve also been a day one purchase but Vavra just couldn’t help himself, stuffing the game with defending le synagogue from le bigoted goyim
>>4132897Lumir said she's locked up waiting for judgement. In the context of this game this means a cell.And of course I checked her house as well, she was nowhere to be found. I played this game before hardcore and I know how she ends up.
>>4132898Im not giving him 60 dollars after i btfoed him lol i dotn really seethe about the gay or black or whatever in reality
>i dont really seethe i make posts about me seething tho
>>4074441This achievment is such B.S, no way Henry is a virgin, he was clearly porking Bianca as alluded by their conversation in kcd1>>4120382kcd2 seems to be the only of the two games to propserly represent the bravery stats of horses in game. Im replaying kcd1 rn and even unbravr horses dont toss you off. in kcd2, they fucking do to the point its frustrating lol
>>4064729How come kcd2 wiki is a bit barebones compared to the first game? For example I wanted to check out shields and it seems the best one isn't even present here.Also how do you really make Martin's weapons, some guides tell you to hit just one side and do it as quickly as possible in one go without reheating, some say you have to make slow strikes and hit both sides. Most of the time I end up with tier3 weapons, my crafting skill is around 18, I heard it forgives more mistakes during crafting with higher skill.
Can you meet Catherine anywhere on the map before the wedding after she brushes you off in a tavern right in the beginning?
