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Gears/Saga/Blade

Genesis trailer imminent
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Xeno a shit
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xeno means boob in spanish
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>>4064823
accurate for blade 2 then
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I think these threads would be better if we posted more softcore pornography
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>>4064823
It means shit everywhere else
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>>4064757
>Genesis trailer imminent
Because of the September direct or Because Nintendo will drop a trailer on Twitter or Nintendo Today?
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>>4065893
sept
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>Eleanor : Sword
>NotKevin : Sword
>Miyabi 2 : Bow
>Garcher : Probably a Sword
>Elf bitch : TWO Swords.
>Not Billy : Guns
Xenosword Swordnesis.
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>>4066398
Isn't there some miko-type not!Haze with a magic staff? Also I think the guy on the dragon has small axes.
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>>4066398
I thought the main guy was a fist fighter
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>>4066540
Nah, dragon boy has a rifle on his back and a small pistol on his waist.
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Why is class levelling so fucking slow in X? Are there anyway to speed it up? Or its just me who was spoiled by Xenoblade 3's job system?
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>>4066568
There are only 3 main paths that diverge once, you're not meant to be hopping classes like a job system game
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>>4064757
Xenoblade is trash. I miss when Monolith Soft actually put in effort.
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>>4069804
It’s hard to put effort into shit
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Just finished chapter 13 of Xenoblade X:DE and I gotta say, people were right to hate the added chapter. I don't even know where to begin. I went back and read old fan's reactions and everything mentioned were pretty much how I felt so I guess I'll start with the few things I did liked. I liked the new map you got to explore. Had this FFXIII cocoon vibe. Wish I had known to stay in that area to farm skell weapons otherwise I'd have to slow grind or do all over chapter 13 again.

That was about it honestly. Chapter 13 was just that bad. Didn't mind Al too much because it felt like they wrote him like a Marvel character which I guess fits the sitting. I stuck with the dub because it was meme worthy back on the WiiU and I liked a couple of the voices in english but sadly in DE they changed some voices and some had lack luster performance like they were phoning their lines in over the phone where the audio quality was all over the place which made me regret sticking with the dub. But back to chapter 13.

The main villain Void has got to be one of the dumbest shoe horned villain out of any rpg. His entire motives make Z and his cronies look intelligent. After reading all the old fan reactions, my biggest gripe really is this chapter was super rushed just so it can merge all the Xenoblade game world by destroying the previous world. I'd hate to see what a future Xenosaga episode 4 is going to be like trying to merge literally EVERYTHING Xeno then destroying everything before it just to Fei, Rex, and Shulk can play Kingdom Hearts in space.
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>>4064931
I prefer Blade 3.
>That little jiggle on Mio's chest.
>That crazy jiggle on Miyabi's perflat manchest.
>O.Eunie's giant monster boobies.
Priceless.
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>>4070281
Chapter 13 exists to close out X's story, not fix or enhance it. Black knight never ever
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>>4070422
>exists to close
Retarded way to close it then.
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Kinda wild it took until 3 to introduce party member switching.
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>>4071488
I really wish Genesis keeps these things from 3:
>Playable character switching mid-combat
>Water combat
>Posable buff/debuff AoEs
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>>4069804
ur ghey
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>>4071239
fitting conclusion following the base game's narrative. They reused X's story concepts in 3 anyway.

>>4071719
character switching is a pandora's box mechanic, there's no going back from it. I don't see why they'd remove combat in water. Buffing and debuffing/aoes tend to change around with each game so we'll see
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>>4071719
Well, it kept the party of 6 and that chinese looking lady looks like a hero.
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>>4071488
They needed FF7R to show them the way, same for the transitions from cutscenes to combat (hopefully they're entirely seamless in the SW2 version)
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>>4072161
3 was deep into development when 7R released
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This thread needs more Eunie fat fucking ass
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>>4070281
>dub
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>>4078718
I prefet 3's girls over 2's. *DADUM*
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Its too bad CHOCO won't be collaborating for Genesis.
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>>4078855
I agree
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>>4079306
They'll announce him as the artist when they reveal the mechs. Also im pretty sure that ouroboros looking character in the trailer is by him
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>>4079408
PALOW. is the other main artist for the game and it's widely assumed that she's doing the mech designs. The one in the Genesis trailer looks like her style, and she did the design of Ino.
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>>4079477
They seems to love BLAME!
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>>4080372
Who can BLAME! them?
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>>4079306
Source?
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Monolith Soft worked on the Ocarina of Time remake?
Did they hire this man?
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>>4064757
>Genesis trailer imminent
>Nintendo Switch 2 exclusive
Any chances it'll be ported to pc before switch 2 emulation will make it playable on pc anyway?
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>>4085738
Yeah, just as soon as that Mario 3D World x PS4 bundle releases...
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I'm going in with lower expectations for tomorrow based on the fact that the Summer Direct was only a few months ago and the Direct seems a bit too packed enough for a Xeno trailer.
XB3 on SW2 drops in December as well, they might want to hold off now for marketing synergy.
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THE MYTHRA BRAT...EXIST!!!!
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Shimmer......................
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>Three daughters
Kevesi men victims
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>>4087183
>Rex named his kids Glimmer, Shimmer and Mio
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>>4087431
>*Kagiroi, Kaguya and Mio
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>>4087542
>KaKaMio
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Her jp trailer had the City's logo for her Chain Attack. Her weapon does have a clock, but I can't see her terms marks. She is defo an outlier to Aionos' system.
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>>4087716
She has Nia’s hair as expected.
I wonder if she’s going to be a bit feral as the personalities rotated.
Mio was like Pyra/hair bob
Glimmer was like Mythra/Long hair
Shimmer was Nia?/short bob
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>>4088232
>She has Nia’s hair as expected
She does not.
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Xenosaga 3 finished.
Definitely the best of the bunch even though I hated the time travel part.
On to Xenoblade next
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>>4090936
>she is free from shit
Happiest you ever see her
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>>4090936
>time travel
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>>4090936
>hated the time travel part.
Anon it's not time travel
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>>4091727
>>4092050
It's not technically time travel but it was an excuse to have the characters interact with shit from 15 years ago without any real consequences to the timeline and it was barely explained beyond "we need this for Abel's Ark to appear again".
Either way I didn't like it.
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>>4092190
The point was to make abel's ark appear, which is a huge story moment. Altering the timeline or whatever is irrelevant
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>>4092393
The Ark had already appeared at the end of 2 and just disappeared again with the Zohar. It reapparing again again for 3's climax is totally arbitrary, does not feel like a "huge story moment", and it's not really connected to the flashback stuff in any logical sense, that's just an excuse they give because they really wanted to show what happened but still wanted those parts to be playable I guess. Very convuluted in a bad way.
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>>4092553
Rewatch that segment because it's necessary for the characters to be there to "summon" the ark
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>>4092753
I'm aware, there is no reason for it being "necessary" other than an excuse for the whole thing to happen in the first place. Shion sure didn't need to meet her past self for the Ark to appear in 2. I don't get why the Ark, which is basically U-DO's form in this world from what I understand, would need that in the first place. And how they were able to recreate all those past events in the present is never explained either.
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>>4090936
Should just quit while you're ahead. It's all downhill going forward.
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>>4093080
Shit never left sea bottom
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>>4093024
>It was unnecessary to reveal what happened during the miltia incident to the party
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>>4094044
Never said that, but revealing it through pseudo-time travel where they try to affect the events but it still ends up being the same just made it annoying more than anything. Unironically just let Shion watch things play out as a movie while you play as another character who was actually there at the time (like young Shion) and I'd have no issue with it.
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>>4094250
Actually alternatively, Shion being stuck in her younger self's body, powerless to change things and reliving and remembering her trauma would also be a hell of a lot more interesting than the weird alternate chain of events that didn't actually change anything important that they went with.
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>>4093080
the worst xenoblade is still better than XS
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>>4094666
And all are better than XG
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>>4094712
Oh dear
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I want to lick Mythra’s sweaty armpits so fucking bad
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>>4094666
Experience with both series tells me this is a blatant lie.
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>>4095311
Blades don't sweat.
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Do the Blades from XBX have anything to do with the ones from the numbered entries?
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>>4096156
No, BLADE in X is a military organization, Blades in Xenoblade 2 are artificial lifeforms.
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>>4096099
The aegis is special, it tastes like honey
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>>4097457
Funny for a series made of shit.
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>See genesis on /v/
>Me, clueless : "Did we have any news?"
>The thread "Ahaha we Tortaniced Fire Emblem, lets pick another target, amirite veee?"
Election tourists were a mistake.
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>>4098546
desu while I quite like both series they have some of the most consistently awful threads and considering just how bad /v/ is that's saying something
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>>4098546
/v/ isn’t a video game board anymore, it’s just another brown third world /pol/nigger containment zone
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>>4106458
people forget the /v/ spinoffs boards like this one were made specifically to make /v/ the containment board
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>>4106613
ALL of Chan is a containment board. It’s one of the Seals.
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Its odd that we only have three elements in Genesis trailer. Maybe they represent the roles? The healer looking girl seems to use wind.
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>>4107664
Eleanor's element being darkness? That's certainly unique for the main heroine
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>>4107754
I am pretty sure she had a flame aura when she L7 the monster. But then again, one of the plot point is her being able to use magic without the stones, so maybe her protagonist privilege would be to not have a set role/element and a greater freedom of customisation?
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>>4064757
Please explain this reference.
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>>4107891
It's a Zero Escapes/nonary games reference
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>>4107864
I thought they were talking about the dual-wielding totally-not-gonna-join-your-party-b-baka fire rival character when they were talking about "her" not needing a stone to channel Anima? Why would they make a big deal of giving Eleanor a stone and show her learn how to master its power in the trailer if she doesn't need a stone?
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>>4107891
Greatest villain in gaming history
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>>4108539
>Why would they make a big deal of giving Eleanor a stone and show her learn how to master its power in the trailer if she doesn't need a stone?
Protag privilege, like how Shulk had a level scaling weapon or Rex could use every blades after a certain chapter.
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>>4064757
Fuck, I just want a game with playable XC1/2/3 aesthetic mecha. Numbered Chronicles entries may as well be the biggest case of mecha blue balling, if not straight up involuntary nonpiloting. Casting away mecha at the end of Saga (and making your meatbags fight their mangled remains as a final boss too as a nice fuck you to the player (me specifically), I've had Erde Kaiser one hit that thing back into oblivion) and focus the gameplay striclty on running around as meatbags exclusively is probably the worst case of a franchise gutting itself from one thing that actually interested me in it. Faced mechons looked great. Artifices were awesome. Some of the Kevesi mecha designs were straight up fantastic. And all (well, most of) those are manned units, piloted strictly by characters other than player ones. 3 rubs it in extra well, not only are mecha so common place you see them at nearly every location in the game, you also get one of those hero characters, the girl with very stylish handlebars, to tag along with the party piloting one of her own while the main party is stuck with, admittedly not terrible looking, diet version of ultramen only accessible via a fusion dance and usable for just a few minutes at a time that also only do cool stuff in cutscenes instead of the actual gameplay. And don't even start me on the cutscenes, Gundam Fighter duels, castles doing Macross transformations, City pulling off a yet another last moment hidden Zeon prototype unit, flying around punching walls just to give Big Ghondor and Little Ghondor (what fucking Ghondor names their child Ghondor?) more screentime. All of that so the protags can wail their skinny arms with no regerts at what's barely even constitutes as a villain doing his best Andross impression.

1/2
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>>4108733
And then you have X, where, despite there being playable mecha, you may as well play through the most of the game without using any and even if you do, they don't even get to appear in the cutscenes, it's always your fauxmeatbags standing around. And the playable mecha designs in X may as well be aestheticaly weakest in the series too, with the tacky extra parts used for borderline useless land vehicle transformations that are immediately rendered obsolete the moment you unlock flight modules while most of the enemy units have this sweet, sleek look, with no unnecessary bits to uselessly fatten them up and mess with the silhouettes. Only Hraesvelg has a functionally useful transformation, it being a flight unit and thus not weighed down by gravity of awkward, unnecessary ballast but that's to be expected as the mecha itself was supposed to be, I assume, yet another supa speshul hyper stylized npc only unit that only got playable as a happy accident or perhaps as a way of apologizing to the player for not actually finishing the story as it was originally intended but opting to forcefully close it just to get it all over with. Well, whatever. It is what it is. But still, fuck you to whoever decided for these games to not only stop having playable mecha but also have npcs wave their big huge non playable dicks around by keeping theirs. Sincerely, fuck (You).

2/2 RANT:END
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Retard who's been asleep for a while here, how do the switch 2 versions of the trilogy work? Are they DLC for the switch 1 versions that use my existing save file or are they their own distinct thing and require replaying the whole game? I skipped out on 1+2 switch 2 eds because playing them for the 3rd or 4th time didn't seem worth the additions, but I want to get 3 for the third sister.
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>>4108733
>>4108735
Yeah, it was extremely disappointing that XBC3 advertised cool mechas but you didn't get to pilot them. Right now only the Trails series is scratching that mecha itch, and even then the recent entries only have a couple fights per game instead of the several that we got in the Cold Steel arc.
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Rex had a huge growth spurt
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>>4109337
Not surprising given that he was practically a toddler during the events of his original game, as seems to be the trend in jp media.
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>>4109197
They're just performance patches that makes the games run much better and they keep your save files intact
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>>4109454
thanks anon
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>>4109337
>When the husband has bigger tiddies.
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>>4109337
I hope one day Takahashi will let us see Milfthra
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>>4064757
So, a question about the ending of XBC3. Why did the worlds separate again? The way the Origin was portrayed seemed to me like it was supposed to use the preserved data from both to make them whole. Does Future Redeemed explain that or is it just some handwaived anime bullshit to elicit an emotional response or something?
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>>4112980
Origin is designed as an ark for both worlds, correct. However, it is also designed to activate just before the worlds fully merge. The corruption of Origin led to the events of Aionios in a seemingly timeless pocket dimension. Ouroboros's victory finally allowed Origin to be rebooted. This required purging the ark and returning all the souls/data back to their respective worlds. However, this is only for at most an hour or two. The merger then restarts, which is confirmed in the ending of Future Redeemed with the reformation of "Earth" back in its proper plane of existence.
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>>4112980
they merge after separating in FR's ending which is extended from the base game's. Also kos mos maybe idk
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So I just played Xenosaga Ep I and I am probably not gonna play II and III but does anyone wanna make me second guess this decision or am I making the right call
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>>4113189
3 is great, don't bother playing 2 just watch the story on youtube and maybe the datalogs on a wiki. Also watch a translated pied piper/missing year
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>>4112980
Basically, they have to separate again to not self destroy. However, its heavily implied they would join again, notably by kid Noah hearing and recognizing the Agnus tune, and the Kevesi tune starting playing after he disappear.
Then FR show that indeed, they fused again.
And the WW2 is joining them as a bonus.
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>>4113189
Your loss. The Xenosaga trilogy was the last time we got good games out of this studio.
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>>4113189
I wouldn't know, I just watched through the quote unquote cutscene movies of I and II on yt and then played through III. I swear to U-DO, they made Shion into such a hysterical bitch, it made me develop a Pavlovian response of wanting to punch the screen whenever she appeared in a cutscene. Easily the most annoying female main character I had displeasure experiencing. Probably the most accurate portrayal of a woman in a video game too, sadly. The game was fine though, even if the ending was shit.
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>>4112759
Kinda like wiping an ass
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>>4113475
The first half of I was promising, I thought they were gonna make Shion into one of those emotionless scientific autistic smart women, too bad they went the other way sadly
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>>4113826
>one of those emotionless scientific autistic smart women
I'd rather she'd been one of those too.
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>>4113826
>one of those emotionless scientific autistic smart women
Based I loved Nenio
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>Xenoblade 3 has Mio, Glimmer, Shimmer, Masha + Rinka and maybe Ino and they are all related to 2's party.
>Xenoblade 1 gets Riku, Nikol and Panacea
I am tired of 2wank...
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>>4118573
Half of FR is XC1 with tiny amounts of 2 sprinkled in
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>>4118604
Look, maybe you're right but I still want a monado class in 3.
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Still thinking of Eunie sex
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>>4125191
>Eunie sex
Interesting.
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I miss when I was excited for Monolith Soft games.
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>>4125382
Xeno a shit
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>>4125336
>the core is where her womb would be
What did Takahashi mean by this?
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>>4108733
>>4108735
I dont even need mechs at this point. Ill take mecha musume and power suits. Dolls nest and titanic scion scratched the itch for me. If they dont wanna do full mechs for whatever reason thats fine, especially considering they probably thought the balance in X was a failure from their part despite them integrating pretty well in the open world, but both 2 and 3 had the chance to introduce either of these concepts and neither even bothered to try. Pisses me off.
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>>4125529
Well, she's the designated healer and did kind of seem like the mom character of the group. Although maybe it's the (highly?) localised text that made her come off that way.
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>>4125541
>I dont even need mechs at this point.
We're not the same, you and I. Although I do see your point, I also enjoyed both Dolls Nest and Titanic Scion, the former one a lot more than I'm willing to admit. Armored Core gameplay on Dark Souls maps just works, even if you're stuck with an anime robololi abomination as your ingame avatar.
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>>4125529
Takahackshi
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>Replaying Xenoblade 2 for the Switch 2 upgrade
>Clearing up the superbosses before NG+
>Mfw Ophion has an attack called Ouroboros Drive
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>>4125918
Xenosaga is full of shallow namedropping it's insane
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>>4125336
>Eunie has big boobs
>Ouroboros form has big boobs
>Taion is a twig with poor stamina
>Ouroboros form is shredded
Explain
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>>4126579
>Taion is a cute twink
>Ouroboros form has a narrow waist, huge hips and it's wearing what might as well be a cute dress with thigh highs and high heels
There you go, champ.
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>>4126579
Taion's Ouroboros form is literally made of paper, his entire Ouroboros gimmick is illusions and deceptions
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So Gear bros. Looks like we all lived long enough to see a inevitable disk 2 being made.
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>>4127530
I've only seen some guy on yt putting disk 2 dungeons together. Is there some kind of actual project focused on putting the whole thing together?
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>>4127530
>>4127670
Atlus a shit
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>>4127670
Webm related is a rom hack some rando like me was able make through claude. So the odds of seeing a disk 2 being made is higher than ever.
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>>4127944
Atlus is partial and not really that good
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>>4127530
>Xeno X is not rep
Boo
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An hour into Xenogears with no real prior experience of this series(I did play Xenosaga 1 for a few hours but that was ages ago). Very curious to see what the hype is all about
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>>4129694
>Very curious to see what the hype is all about
Better strap in then, hope you like reading.
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>>4129694
Shit
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>>4126579
Visually I think this is the coolest Ouroboros for sure. I'm replaying it now and I smiled during Lanz's side story when Taion transforms and scares Garvel. "Do moderate your expectations." Such a cold line!
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I love the Ouroboros/Interlink so much. I hope they come back in some form.
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>>4108733
>>4108735
You're gonna have to play a real mecha game, sorry.
Xeno is shonenslop and shonens don't like old geezer robots anymore
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>>4132687
The mecha designs in these games beg to be properly appreciated instead of being relegated to being either mobs or, at best, eye candy. And I haven't found any other game that would scratch the mecha rpg itch quite like XCX did. Even though Dolls Nest and Titanic Scion got fairly close as of late and Steambot Chronicles and Metal Max/Saga still exist too.
>You're gonna have to play a real mecha game, sorry.
Instead of apologizing, hit me with your best shot.
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>>4133016
What, you want mecha game recs?
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>>4133057
Sure, go ahead. Maybe I missed something interesting.
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Genesis news fucking when Takahashi you fucking hack
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>>4138793
Genesis has been canceled to fund Day of Crisis 2, please look forward to it
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>switch 2 is hacked
i WIRR emulate the switch 2 versions of XB2 and 3
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>>4138793
After 3's switch 2 upgrades I assume.
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>>4141140
gonna be at least a quarter after that, sometime feb-march for the next general direct
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wonder if there will be a timeskip during the game and she will have children, maybe they become party members too like Matthew/Nikol/Glimmer.
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>>4141621
No, they'll imply she got pregnant in the post-credit scene, then the story DLC will be about her kids, Cain and Abel, 18 years later, exploring and settling the world on the outer rim of Anshar.
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>>4142031
Xenogears a shit
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DAMN Xenogears is so good. Nothing else comes close.
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Is the series ever going back to playable mecha?
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>>4142663
FF7
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>>4142808
Nope
>>4142839
Nope
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>>4141621
You only knew this girl for a single trailer and you already want her to be pregnant?
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>>4142865
Male instinct. Just human condition being what it is, I guess.
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what did takahashi mean by this
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>>4145590
Xenogears a shit
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>>4145590
Based
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>>4125558
She comes off a really similar way in the JAP too. It isn't reflected as well through literal translation.
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Will debuffs be useful in Genesis?
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>>4064757
Where the fuck is the xenogears recomp it's been stuck at 89% for a while?
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>>4148320
Just emulate, stupid
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>>4148327
>Just pick the lesser option when recomps are the next stage
Not when we are this close
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>>4064757
I finished Future Redeemed yesterday (first played XBC1 on 3DS a decade ago, and then a couple months ago began XBC2). I overall enjoyed the FR game but they really dropped the ball on the final act, pretty much everything after you leave the town and set out for Prison Island.

The XBC3 base game was overall the best XBC base story experience. XBC1 had me invested in Shulk's quest to bring the serial killer to account and had tension, making me wonder if people would live or die. I wondered if Sharlya or Reyn would die to Xord in that underground place (played on 3DS a decade ago). But then you reach Prison Island and it is revealed that Fiora is alive, and all of the tension evaporates, and then Shulk is blocking Dunban from killing the evildoer, etc. And then by the end it spirals off into utterly vapid JRPG nonsense where you fight godmonsters angels, people talking about defying fate, etc.

XBC2 had a great first two chapters but then slows down in chapter 3. Much of the appeal in that game was discovering and trapezing through new crazy artbook fantasy titans. After you finish chapter 6 Genbu and finish Torna as Takahashi recommended and then get back to the base game, you have run out of cool new Titans to visit. The story was also hypocritical with characters like Vandham, Morag, and Zeke constantly telling Rex that he can't save everyone, can't be friends with everyone, etc, and that he has to narrow down and pick what is most important to him and kill other people to protect or get that. Characters telling Rex that being an adult means you don't get everything you want. Etc. But then almost all of the villains conveniently kill themselves or each other so that Rex doesn't have to, and the Pyra and Mythra come back in the end. So Rex didn't lose anything.

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2/2

So XBC3's base game was overall the best in that it didn't have a sharp quality drop in the second half. Even after chapter 5's climax, it is still decent, not mediocre, and had a cathartic, definitive ending. (Yes, empty platitudes, etc, just saying the finale didn't feel as bad as 1 & 2)

However, XBC3 raises a lot of major plot questions/mystery boxes, but then punts them to Future Redeemed to answer:

>Why does Noah have a unique looking red sword that can transform into a gauntlet, when no one else does?
>Why did Riku give Lucky Seven to Noah?
>What is the Sword of the End?
>Why did Riku nod to Melia?
>etc

So with Future Redeemed, it is time to pay the debts. And then FR just doesn't really answer them. I still don't know why Noah has a special sword or why it is special or why Riku waited to give it to him specifically.

I didn't like how Panacea and Linca just become sudden nonactors after we set out for Prison Island, even though they were fighting with their leaders against the combined Ferronis earlier. They just suddenly pop up again as Shulk and Rex and apparently dying. Riku also came with too and did nothing.

Matthew's gauntlets turn out to have a Zohar Crystal!?!?! But there were only three Trinity Processor core crystals created. Alvis is right over there as the final boss. Rex is holding Pyra's. And Malos' was destroyed at the end of XBC2. Where did this fourth one come from?!?!? Excuse me? Why did we never see this in the base game?

What was the green light? How did N know how to wield Ouroboros power or its true capabilities in this moment?

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>>4149181
3/4

In his dying moments, Alvis only talks to Matthew, who appears as "representative" of the party? Huh? Matthew had zero connection or relationship to Alvis whatsoever. Besides Na'el, the only other person here of relevance to Alvis is Shulk. Shouldn't he be talking to Shulk? Very strange that Alvis pretty much doesn't talk to Shulk at all in this storyline. It is especially egregious because in XBC1, Alvis had a special relationship with Shulk, being the only person that Alvis appeared to, telling Shulk about the world that was and Zanza's true nature, etc. Alvis identified Shulk as a clone of Zanza, turned to Shulk as a friend over Zanza, the guy who was operating Alvis and working with him to remake creation, and positioned Shulk to replace Zanza as the head honcho. And Alvis offered Shulk to become his assistant and uplift Shulk to a godlike creator status over this world and remake reality however he wanted.

Shulk, Rex, and A randomly decide to start walking into the white light and evaporating. They then pull crap out of their ass about Alvis being the avatar of the world, and now the Alvis is dead someone needs to become the next avatar of the world to prevent reality from collapsing. ??? where did this come from? This was never setup before. Alvis in XBC1 was NOT the "avatar" of the planet or any some such, he is just a supercomputer that was plugged into the Zohar when Klaus hit the button to activate the Zohar's power and recreate the universe. The Zohar also vanished from the XBC2 world at the end of XBC2 and yet reality did not begin collapsing in on itself there. The XBC2 world also existed just fine without Alvis as Alvis was in the XBC1 dimension. Nothing should really happen if Alvis ceased to exist. And how do Shulk and Rex know this and instantly think "oh, I need to start walking into this white light to prevent reality from collapsing?"

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>>4149183
4/5 I probably should have been spoilering this stuff, my apologies

But before they walk into the white light, they decide to stop and turn around and handwave away their slave soldier children's 10 year lifespan limits so that they can live normal lifespans. Uhhhh where did Shulk and Rex get these powers? How did they know that they could do this? We get mumble jumbo from A about how this is "cheating" and she will look the other way, but I still don't know where Shulk and Rex got this capability or how they know they can do it.


And worse, FR undoes the definitive, cathartic ending of XBC3 and turns it into a cliffhanger. So it seems that in the very final post-credits FMV... the two worlds merge back together into one Earth again? And then there is a blue light heading towards the Earth? And then you are prompted to make your clear save and booted back to the main menu. What!?!? You can't end it like that. What happened to everyone? Is that blue light a threat? What!?!?
So I found it very dissatisfactory. And then when I went online to read the fan translations of that artbook interview, it created more dissatisfaction. Apparently Consul N's purple sword is Malos!?!? But Malos was killed, and then his core crystal would have been vaporized in the nuke that destroyed the space station at the end of XBC2. Malos' sword did not look like N's or Lucky Seven. And Noah's Lucky Seven is... Fiora? Huh? Even the other devs present at the interview were perplexed. Feels like Takahashi pulling crap out of thin air. Matthew's gauntlets turn out to be... Pneuma. ??? how? How did Matthew get that? Why? But Rex is holding Pyra and Mythra's swords? ???


4/5
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>>4149187
5/5 finished

Takahashi also mentions other fan questions like people wanting to know what happened to the characters after the merge, what's up with the Malos sword, etc, and Takahashi says to "wait for the future". Is Xenoblade Genesis supposed to be that future? Is Genesis supposed to have the satisfactory payoffs I am looking for? Or is Genesis another spinoff game like X, and we have to wait however many more years for a potential payoff?

So I have a bit of a sour taste in my mouth regarding this franchise. Reminds me of when I finished Trails Beyond the Horizon earlier this year when it was promised to be the payoff... only for it to have non answers and not really resolve anything, and I was told that I had to wait however many more years and play another 100+ hour game and hope that it has a satisfactory payoff (doubt).

The same exact writing problems keep coming up over and over with stories beginning with grounded plots, and then by the end the rules of the setting are being handwaved away as characters shout empty platitudes.

I will play Genesis for sure since the audiovisuals and setting look cool, and the early plot will probably be very engaging, but this guy has a poor 1 out of 4 track record for nailing the endings.

Overall rankings:

XBC3 > XBC1 > XBC2 (including Torna in between chapters 6 and 7) > Future Redeemed (has the best gameplay in the series but too much plot dissatisfaction at the end)
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>>4149193
6/6 really last one thing, promise

I read about the Genesis plot leak from the friend of the outsourced Chinese modeller who was making the protagonist model for Genesis. I also follow Honkai Star Rail and the gacha industry, and it's just incredible seeing the sheer amount of leaks in the Chinese gaming industry. Never seen anything like this from the Western or Japanese industries. People snapping photos of powerpoint presentations for next year's sales plans and sharing them without a second thought and then getting fired and sued, just to get some 15 minutes of fame for leaking a character skin. And the Genesis leak included the teensy detail about being the modeller for the protagonist. Rather identifying, huh? Doesn't think he's going to be fired or get his company blacklisted? Wow
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>>4149181
>So XBC3's base game was overall the best in that it didn't have a sharp quality drop in the second half.
It has the biggest drop in the series after the intro of chapter 6
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>>4149181
> I still don't know why Noah has a special sword or why it is special
because it has pneuma's core in the sheath riku makes for it (which is crafed out of mathew/ghondor's gloves)

>Riku waited to give it to him specifically.
he either felt like it or saw the potential from N

>Matthew's gauntlets turn out to have a Zohar Crystal!?!?! But there were only three Trinity Processor core crystals created. Alvis is right over there as the final boss. Rex is holding Pyra's. And Malos' was destroyed at the end of XBC2. Where did this fourth one come from?!?!? Excuse me? Why did we never see this in the base game?
There's a lot of evidence suggesting that Aionios takes place in the xenoblade equivalent of the imaginary numbers domain. If you haven't played xenosaga I won't bother going into further detail but TL;DR is that it's a separate realm from how 1/2 operate, one driven more by human emotion

>>4149183
>In his dying moments, Alvis only talks to Matthew, who appears as "representative" of the party? Huh? Matthew had zero connection or relationship to Alvis whatsoever. Besides Na'el, the only other person here of relevance to Alvis is Shulk. Shouldn't he be talking to Shulk? Very strange that Alvis pretty much doesn't talk to Shulk at all in this storyline. It is especially egregious because in XBC1, Alvis had a special relationship with Shulk, being the only person that Alvis appeared to, telling Shulk about the world that was and Zanza's true nature, etc. Alvis identified Shulk as a clone of Zanza, turned to Shulk as a friend over Zanza, the guy who was operating Alvis and working with him to remake creation, and positioned Shulk to replace Zanza as the head honcho. And Alvis offered Shulk to become his assistant and uplift Shulk to a godlike creator status over this world and remake reality however he wanted.
that part of him is represented in A, not Alpha who was more in line with zanza
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>>4149183
>oh, I need to start walking into this white light to prevent reality from collapsing?"
I don't know about this, it's either one of the things 3 kept vague to be tackled in the future (first time the series really does this, https://xenomira.wordpress.com/2024/03/30/aionios-moments-key-points-translation/) or it's meant to be vague like how zanza/mayneth needed to inhabit bodies because...just because

>>4149187
that's exactly what it is, A "cheats" and breaks a truce with Z. Z can't really undo what A does since alvis is higher than him on priority as far as Origin goes This is why Z can't change anything about Origin either, just take control of it and alter the surroundings. It's also why he ultimately fails since he's limited by the domain of Aionios

Genesis almost certainly takes place after 1-3. My guess is that it's in one of the other two space stations which returned after the merge

>>4149201
>Never seen anything like this from the Western or Japanese industries
>Western
m8 entire fucking games get leaked with Western companies, see TLoU2, Wolverine, and GTAVI

that's just the reality of outsourcing, chances of leaks shoot up
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So apparently, the Switch 2's sales aren't hot those days. I hope this won't affect Genesis negatively.
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>>4149428
>Genesis almost certainly takes place after 1-3. My guess is that it's in one of the other two space stations which returned after the merge
Nah, I think they are expanding on the samaarian lore.
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>>4149598
it's selling more than the switch 1 did in the same timeframe
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>>4149606
Imma be real with you chief, I don't think anything from X is ever coming back except maybe GHOST
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>>4149193
Xenoblade 3? At the top of a ranking? On 4chan?
Anyway, I think FR should have been longer, since I feel like Nikol and Glimmer's were undercooked. It has my favorite progression system however.
Now, are we going to get so answers in Genesis? Hell if I know. It turns out that project Legacy was Xenoblade Genesis, so 3 and Gene probably overlapped in dev time, so maybe the stories will connect in some form, especially when XDE chapter 13 expanded the scope of Xenoblade's stories to multiversal levels.
So we'll see.
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>>4149598
If Genesis doesn't make big changes that appeal to the general audience, it won't. No switch 2 game is selling more than its switch 1 equivalent
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>>4149598
I still haven’t bought one myself, not enough games out that I'm interested in yet
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>Can unlock skells
>Can't find Vandham
REE, where do I go for my driver license?
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>>4149716
If he's not in the barracks, then he's at one of his H2H locations. Try changing the time of day.
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>>4149598
The new FE sold better than Engage and I have a feeling most xenofags either already bought a switch 2 or are waiting for genesis to come out to get one. Games with niche but dedicated fanbases probably won't be affected by Switch 2's sales, it's more the heavy hitters or more normalfag games that get hit, like Mario Kart or the Mario sports games.
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Xenoblade Revelations is when X and Genesis spill out onto remade earth and fight the first three games.
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>>4150199
>Tricking your Best Friend Into Eating Human Flesh Prank
Good ol' Citan. Never change, buddy.
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>>4150155
>>4150231
(((Nopon)))
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>>4149598
Isn't it outselling the Switch 1 year-on-year?
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>>4149666
But Satan, they included things like Neilnail and the qlu terraforming rings lore in XDe, so maybe it coud be relevant to Genesis.
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>>4149633
>>4150393
>People think the initial burst matters when Drumpft tax significantly slowed sales already
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>>4150406
>initial burst is over a year and a half later
anon...
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>>4150319
Nipon…
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>>4149181
>>4149193
It's wonderfully interesting seeing someone rank base XB3 highest on the merits of consistent character writing and themes and such over "hype and aura" moments and mystery box lore drops.
Extremely ironic considering how the raid on Origin and the final battle against Z is the most bombastic climax in the franchise.
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I forgot to elaborate on what I liked about the XBC3 base game specifically. But as for characters, yes I found the cast to be the most enjoyable. In XBC1 I only liked Shulk, Dunban, and Riki. Didn't care for Sharla or Reyn, and was not a fan of the tension sucking plot twist. For XBC2, I liked the older characters of Morag, Zeke, and Brighid, but all three of them get minimal screentime compared to the teenagers. Aegaeon was also criminally underused, not just in base game but also in Torna (Brighid also underused there too, it really was just the Lora/Jin/Adam show).

For XBC3 base game, I liked all six AND Riku and Manana. Odd that Riku and Manana don't become playable and follow you around the overworld until 30+ hours in even though they are hiking with you in cutscenes. I also liked quite a lot of the heroes, particularly Zeon, Teach, Isurd, Ashera, and Alexandria.

Sidequests aren't on the level of BG3 but were overall the most engaging in the series so far, so I did all of them, whereas in the prior two games I generally ignored them because they were not that entertaining. The Colony 30 sidequestline that ended with the nopon (who was simping for Alexandria) destroying Valdi's mech project was rage inducing.

Soundtrack is subdued and more memorable with the heavy use of flutes, the main themes have more segments that can be picked and used instead of just spamming one whole main theme over and over.

I quite liked having a party of 7 characters fighting all together instead of just 3 at a time. You have six buttons to push during combat (not even counting Ouroboros or the ultimates) and the chaining and Fuision arts gave some consideration. I liked Smash combos, no annoying buildup of elemental gauge like in XBC2 which is lost upon KO. Chain Attack is a little sluggish and boring though compared to XBC2 with the anxiety if RNG will be in your favor and you will detonate that orb when you are trying to elemental burst.

Exploration was addictive
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>>4149296
I don't think its that bad. Chapter 5's peaks just left chapter 6 and 7 with big shoes to fill.
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>>4150628
>I quite liked having a party of 7 characters fighting all together instead of just 3 at a time
I get you. I'm a sucker for getting to use the whole party at once, even in absolutely dire games like Star Ocean 5
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>>4150407
>Sales literally dropped off by over 40% already
Anon...
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>>4150724
>Lifetime sales of the Switch 2 are now 26.35 million, which means it’s still outpacing the original Switch in terms of launch aligned sales (the first six quarters after release).
anon...
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>>4150628
I personally found exploration the weakest of the Xenoblades (not counting expansion/added content). The level design of 3 is great (better than 1 and arguably 2), and boss hunting is as fun as always, but 3 feels like it has the least amount of stuff worth going out of the way for (heart to hearts are gone in favor of fireside chats, treasure chests are almost always worthless, shops in towns are utterly worthless, no mini game like 2 as a fun distraction). Only exception is Erythia Sea, no complaints on that one. Erythia is how the great sea in wind waker should have been.
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it's been awhile, I haven't visited this godforsaken site.
do you think they will shadow drop Genesis trailer this month? I remember they did the same with XB3 2nd trailer (that include release date too)

it's been 5 months after the reveal, I am craving for a new information
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>>4150823
Maybe after 3's update?
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mark my word: Xenoblade Genesis saga will be female-oriented because Takahashi wanted to court female audiences (yumes, shipper, and fujos) and he's always itching wanting to cater to women.
Blade onlies about to find out that Takahashi has always been a shojofag & loovesss his romance drama
we will get 2 more games with female protag
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>>4150892
More gynocentric pandering? I wonder how's that going to end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN51KEHXuNg
Just read the comments.
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>>4150877
most likely, but I wish we'd get information sooner
>>4150892
the only good things pandering to women mean it'll have hot dudes, but the negative is women loves twink......
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I don’t get why people wanted Nintendo to buy the Xenogears and Xenosaga IPs when they’d be censored even further because of the blatant religious elements and violent scenes.
also Takahashi is already 59 years old. I doubt he wants to remake his old games when he’s already had success with Xenoblade.
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>>4151040
I just want a Xenoblade Chronicles X2, with cooler looking and more customisable (just let me repaint the fucking weapons, for fuck's sake) playable mecha, better combat system (the ones in XC2 and 3 were already a huge improvement), properly furry (and recruitable) cat aliens instead of anime mimiggers that just kind of are there and none of the loot management nightmare that XCX had.
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>>4150823
I think the game's releasing summer/september, so I don't think we'll see it again until the feb/march direct
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>>4151018
do women like otokonoko or is that just for straight guys?
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>>4151105
Really, I thought they announced Q1 2027
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Eunie is the best
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Xenoblade is deeper than Gears and Saga
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Is there any perk to the light/medium/heavy/skell armors in X? I know that armor weight used to decrease agility (or evasion) in 1, before they basically gave up on armors in 2.
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>>4151134
Summer would line up with the development cycle going by the switch xenoblade games, but even if it were done sooner I think they'd choose to release it later because of pokemon (probably) and FF7R3 releasing around Spring.

I feel that Genesis was an unusually early reveal compared to 2 and 3, even 2 which was revealed about a year before and had no english VA done had a website and more info available than Genesis

>I thought they announced Q1 2027
nope
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Been replaying the original Xenosaga trilogy. It will return. Screenshot this post.
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>>4151354
>Been replaying the original Xenosaga trilogy.
How is it holding up?
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>X2
yeah I don't think they will make it after whatever happened in chapter 13.
X flopping make Monolith turn away from it despite it fit Monolith style.
I'm so tired with pseudo-fantasy we need more sci fi man
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>>4151389
I agree but normalfags would rather slurp up fantasyslop. Hiding the sci-fi behind a layer of fantasy is probably the best case scenario from a business standpoint.
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>>4151379
Shit
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>>4151107
Otokonoko is strictly men's fetish
women like twink men such as shulk, alvis, noah, etc.
>>4151237
2 was rushed as hell and I would like to believe Genesis has had a good development time, considering that Mitsuda, Anuna, and Manami Kiyota announced they finished recording the music last month, if I recall correctly.
I assume they’ve already finished game development and just needed the dub and OST to be ready.
Expecting a spring release isn’t a stretch, and April or May would be best imo.
>>4151409
I wonder why normies being averse to sci fi now, sci fi used to be The Normie genre.

also what's the Arthur Clarke/Isaac Asimov book that Genesis took inspiration of called? (the one with 6 suns and living in dyson sphere)
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>>4151564
>also what's the Arthur Clarke/Isaac Asimov book that Genesis took inspiration of called? (the one with 6 suns and living in dyson sphere)
Nightfall? Arthur Clarke wasn't involved in that book.
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>>4151564
Idk about the six suns (it was probably 3 suns given the fixation on three with the book) but I think you're referring to rendezvous with rama
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>>4151134
They just said "2027", nothing more.
I think we'll get Metroid early in the year, then Kirby late spring, Genesis in the summer and Pokémon WiWa as their big holidays release.
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>>4151379
saga 1 is good
saga 3 is good
we don't talk about saga 2
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>>4151744
>we don't talk about saga 2
Why? What sets it apart from the others?
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>>4151779
2 main reasons
- gameplay is kinda bad, the way it works makes it truly only shine with bosses while mob encounters are a drag
- they went with a realistic style so now everyone except ziggy is suddenly a real asian person, and it just doesn't look good
also a debatable point is character progression: it was basically unique for every character in 1 and 3 (though 1 had a skill share system of sorts, where a character could learn skills of another character), while in 2 every character can learn everything and some people might not like that. 3 kinda also does this but only when you reach the end game, before that characters have their own skills
i guess that if you played 1 you can just try 2 anyway, i wouldn't say to not play it ever, but still
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>>4151564
>I wonder why normies being averse to sci fi now, sci fi used to be The Normie genre
But I reckon Star Fox being successful, and Metroid getting a second wind after Dread. Pikmin sorta count in a way.
Also, I remember Xenoblade 3 being marketed as strictly SF.
>>4151591
>Nightfall?
Another one to the list.
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>>4151564
>I wonder why normies being averse to sci fi now, sci fi used to be The Normie genre.
Hope for the future is dead. The future is here and everything just got worse. Sci fi only does well in strong economies.
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What do you prefer? One stat that dictate both hit chance and dodge (Agility in Xeno 1) or two stats for hit chance and evasion (Xenoblade X/2/3)?
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>>4151839
More specific stats is always better.
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>>4151800
>Star Wars
>1977 economy
…?
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>>4151591
>>4151628
Thanks for the title, I will read it!
>>4151839
the latter
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>>4151744
Saga 2 is still better than any of the Blade games.
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can anyone explain the whole Immigrant Fleet in Xenosaga?
I forgot why they're capable to interact to U-DO.
was it because of disease or experiment?
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>>4152572
Even X?
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>>4152662
Imma be real, XS2 faces >>>>> X faces
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>>4152663
I admittedly experience some amount of difficulty in distinguishing human facial features across different persons but don't both in the pic have the exact same face?
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>>4152662
Especially X.
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>>4152663
og X faces is the reason i never played it until the switch version came out
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They revealed Shimmer's eng class name. Does that mean they are starting to drip infos about her?
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>>4155763
Interesting that she had foresight skill like Mythra did.
I wonder if they will explain why she had that ability in story
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>>4156285
>I wonder if they will explain why she had that ability in story
Genetics. Poor Mio and Glimmer got shafted.



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