A new RPG has been revealed to us, which features a twist. The game focuses completely on the character and roleplaying experience of a Warlock, instead of dilluting their focus and allowing you to play as any class.The gameplay trailer revealed:>your patron (pic related)>a MC (not sure if you can only play as her)>various combat and utility spells for puzzle solving>possibly a town with NPCsI am cautiously excited for this. Mostly because the Patron is doing ASMR style whispering during gameplay and is kinda hot and already very dominating with barely any boundaries
Trailer:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNw0sh481bA
>>4070343>log-in to verify your ageThanks!Do you play as a girlboss mc?
>>4070342I don't know, something about the trailer bother me but I might just give it a try for the warlock stuff. Is there another game where picking a warlock have you deal with the patrons? I know about BG3 but you need to play Will
>>4070342>WotCtrash
>>4070342I like what i´ve seen so far. The art style looks pretty good and the warlock herself seems to have plenty of utility spells to interact with the world in creative ways rather than just combat spells.
They're calling it an action-adventure, not an RPG.
>>4070391It's basically an RPG with just a single character class, like I explained in the OP. But it's fine to call it that too, as long as you don't want to get my thread removed from /vrpg/.
>>4070342I hope it's not some open world slop, I don't like DnD much anyway, but if it has some fun action and sexy sorceresses then it might be ok.
looked like shit, imo
>A new RPGThat's an action adventure game.Is Tomb Raider an RPG now because it "focuses completely on the character and roleplaying experience of a tomb raider, instead of dilluting their focus and allowing you to play as any class"?Do you understand what a roleplaying game is?
>>4070419This game will probably be bad because it's nu-DnD, but that said, nothing about "the main character is locked to a specific character class" inherently invalidates a game from being an RPG.
>>4070430An ACTION ADVENTURE game is not and never will be an RPG, retard.The entire mental gymnastic about being "locked to one class" is just the icing on retard cake for a whole other list of reasons.Do you think Dragon's Dogma is an RPG because there's a bunch of classes?
>>4070441Not interested in arguing with an unpleasant moron about a game I don't care about and haven't heard of before this morning. Last (you).>Do you think Dragon's Dogma is an RPGYes.>because there's a bunch of classes?No.
>>4070395https://store.steampowered.com/app/3714800/Warlock_Dungeons__Dragons/>All Games > Action Games > Warlock: Dungeons & Dragons>Genre: Action, Adventure>Watch the gameplay reveal for Warlock: Dungeons & Dragons, a third-person, single-player action-adventure set in a dark fantasy open world inspired by D&D.Where's the RPG part? It's an action that uses the Dungeons and Dragons setting, none of the rules.
>>4070342>action game where you play as a foidSomehow another one, huh?
>>4070442So you don't know what a roleplaying game is.Good.
>>4070342Looks like woke trash to me
>>4070342>ASMR you say!? Oh my TikTok! Take all my updoots!...>>4070468>PnP rules are too hard for the modern corposlop designer to implement so we get another one of these style and no substance titles>like a bad D&D movie, talking about magic missiles and fireballs is only high tier art to a certain reddit mentality>>4070482Yeah we've def. been here before. At least in the 90s things like Dark Alliance were actually good though because woke wasn't a thing then.
>>4070342I saw the premise and thought>Huh we don't have many of thoseLooks at the gameplay>AAA Slopa>Action combat with loose warlock theme>Game dev(il) on your shoulder telling you what to do every 5 seconds>Fantasy.mp4Does it have any redeeming qualities, I just can't not resent those games.
>>4070528Explain to me exactly what makes the game woke. Give me concrete examples, not vibes. What is woke?>>4071153>Does it have any redeeming qualities, I just can't not resent those games.Depends. Do you think the Patron is hot?
>>4071167Patron is hot? Well yes, I will grant that's something.It this a reason to play the game? Probably not.Is it a reason to visit rule 34? Maybe.
>>4071174You talk like an LLM.
>>4071186It's LLM's that talk like me. Where do you think they learned to do that?I will keep that in mind, I like to larp as one from time to time, maybe it fried my brain.
>>4070345>need to play WyllWell, to see your patron in person. Great Old One and Archfey warlocks have the most instances of your patron "getting involved" but it's all through narrator dialogue. I'm still mad the game had us go to Shadowfell and not only do hexblades have zero unique dialogue, but Halsin never calls us out on it.I'd love a DND game where you would actually have to discover how to form a patron contract in-game: stumble across an ancient tome that contains the GOO's real name, find a genie's lamp, some event during the prologue where a devil or some other being bails you out of trouble.
Foid MC is a no go
>>4070342No chance. WoTC is the AppleTV of tabletop RPG studios. Gay and lame, one million percent chance.
>>4070342
Why would ANYONE make a pact with Tasha?
>>4073528A pact where she has to suck my dick.
>>4073528qrd?
>>4070342>patron is some dumb bitch>female only MC>third person over the shoulder camera>action game>5eTrash
>>4074333>>some dumb bitch>>5eYou're a fucking secondary, why are you pretending you give a shit or know about editions?
>>4073528Why not? She's rather chaotic, but not in a "lolsorandumb" way.
>>4074352Lol you should go back
>>4074352>implying that Tasha isn't a dumb bitch
>>4070342What are those eyebrows???
>>4074333>>patron is some dumb bitch>>4074846Trips, don't be so fucking stupid. "Tasha" is Iggwilv, the OG evil witch villainess of Greyhawk, which is the OG fantasy setting of D&D, the progenitor of all CRPGs (excepting Blackmoor for a second). It doesn't get more old-school than that. I can't say I like what I see of Warlock so far as the graphics are soulless, vapidly generic and over-lit, but it does seem to have some lore pedigree, at least from initial impressions. That said, I'd never buy this day 1. Wait a month and see whether it's something true to the original games or a shitty FPS cash-grab.
>>4073528Tasha makes sick jokes anon.
>>4070342Are there really men that voluntarily play as a woman in a role-playing game? It’s incomprehensible. Just visualizing an adult male pushing little buttons to move around his virtual female avatar makes me nauseous. Imaging engaging in this pitiable activity in front of your father, a mentor or a romantic prospect. Are you not ashamed?
>>4075169>Imaging engaging in this pitiable activity in front of your father, a mentor or a romantic prospect. Are you not ashamed?All 3 of those people, if they are worth their salt, should be disappointed that you're playing video games period.
>>4075169it's developer's faults for never giving me dwarf or orc waifus, forcing me to make my own
One thing I've noticed from the trailer, which I really dislike, is the 1980s action movie thing where the mooks attack one by one, instead of mobbing the MC. It's particularly noticeable in the last fight, around the big zombie.
>>4071167>What is woke?baby don't cancel me
>>4075752Most melee action games work this way, though good ones do their best to disguise it. Getting mobbed isn't fun.
>>4075829Just add crowd control tools and remove stunlock (or don't use it in the first place).
>>4070419Define an rpg then
>>4070342i got purple fatigue
>>4075971>Define an rpg thenPlease, anon, I beg you. Don’t start this shit again. We haven’t mentally recovered from the last wave of retardation on this subject.
>>4070342>>4074980Iggwilv should be one of the hottest bitches in the multiverse yet somehow they've made her uglier and uglier with every new generation.
a D&D game where i can't create my pc, i sleep
>>4071167>what is wokeHere you go anon:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rf7ROU2_8UAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Do1yCfEuDE
>>4070482i know it's just the dnd class, but it's more aggravating because a warlock is the male equivalent to a witch. it's like if blizzard announced a spin-off called "diablo: amazon" and it was about a guy
>>4088490I'm glad someone said it, even when nudnd has a half decent idea they manage to fuck it up with either on-purpose gender bullshit or incompetent literary/mythology backgrounds.
>>4088490Warlock has never meant that in DnD, that was not the word's first meaning, and the term witch can and has been applied to males in the past even if it's predominantly female. Paladin, cleric, and druid are actual, legitimate real life groups/titles but I don't think anyone cares DnD paladins don't literally follow Charlemagne. >>4088495>nudndUsing warlock like this isn't "nudnd". Warlock was a magic user class title decades ago regardless of gender.>incompetent literary/mythology backgrounds.This is an ignorant statement. DnD is not trying to be an accurate recreation of mythological stories. It started with Gygax putting a bunch of things he likes together in whatever way he pleased. That is not the same as literary incompetence, and viewing it as such is a gross way to approach fantasy.Ironically, what you're doing is EXACTLY what nu-DnD players do. Fantasy is built on millenia of shifting tales and oral tradition but modern audiences are ridiculously obsessed with using the "right" or "canon" versions of everything.Are we going to start complaining about Tolkien because Gandalf is actually a dwarven name and elves aren't actually like his interpretation in Norse sources? Is Inferno incompetent because Dante made up his own lore? Are we going to cheer when the naive nu-DnD player says "actually that's a sorcerer not a wizard sorcery is innate" because their only frame of reference is DnD and they think everything in fiction uses the exact same canon?
>>4090025He really just compared this to Tolkien and Dante.
>>4070342The rare story of someone who takes a Warlock past level 1?Pass
>>4070342>you play as a foid being bossed around by a foidwhy would anyone want this?
>>4088490>warlock is the male equivalent to a witchYou know that witch was originally a gender neutral term, right? Yes, the actual original Old English had gendered versions of it (wicca and wicce, for men and women, respectively), but the "modern" English version of the word was and technically still is gender neutral.
>>4092053Toxic yuri
>>4088490Any hard definition of the names of magic users is secondary to what the setting assigns to those names, because the expectation is that magic works differently in those settings than reality. The difference between a wizard, a warlock, and a sorcerer is contingent on their interactions with magic, and getting pissy about those definitions not lining up with the real world, where, may I remind you, magic is not real, is just pointless performative outrage.
>>4076012>This isn't an RPG>what is then?>Don't start this shit again!Maybe we should just stop using the term entirely then if simply asking what it means causes such a huge shitstorm.
>>4070342>her>warlockif it's a bitch, they don't call em warlocks. fuck gender muh pronouns equality.
>>4074980>OG evil witch villainess of Greyhawknot a warlock
>>4088490>it's like if blizzard announced a spin-off called "diablo: amazon" and it was about a guy>Diablo 4 released the amazon class again today>Since they have gender swapping anon is now NostradamusCongratulations!
>>4092053Lots of guys, actually.
>>4070342That's not supposed ot be Iggwilv, right? Because if so, we're talking about one of the biggest downgrades ever.
>>4098028>downgrade>from that forehead
>>4070342So who is the Patron? A high level wizard/sorc or a cambrion? Looks like a devil taking human form but they're usually a lot less obvious with their warlocks. Hell, could even be a god or something, that'd be a kino subversion
>>4070342>slow walking section>fifty flavors of glorified door opening animations>enemies patiently lining up to get cutscene'd one at a time>slow mo on every action to keep up with sluggish over-animation>Goy of War "combat"Rancid westabrap movie slop.
>>4070342>Warlock, the (relatively) new donut steel class of D&D>no, you can't be any other classes>no, you can't be any other races>no, you can't be any other genders>we want the D&D audience by restricting the thing that makes people want to play D&D
>>4088490>warlock is the male equivalent to a witchThat's right, male warlocks are for closeted homos who want to crossdress as a witch and whore themselves out to old eldritch bastards.
>>4098551>that foreheadSome advice to young anons from a boomerYou want smart babies? Find you a bitch with a big prefrontal cortex
>>4099429I don't think this game looks good, and it's only dubiously an RPG in the first place, but the one thing I'd say in favor of the premise is that the warlock class would be a good choice for a single character open world game since they can do a little of everything.
>>4070343This game looks like more shit from the same people who tell me shit taste great.
>>4099429>>Warlock, the (relatively) new donut steel class of D&DIt started as a 2e kit though
>>4101133Unless it was a pretty dramatically different kit than I imagine, the first I remember seeing of the eldritch blasting, invocations, etc was 3.5's complete arcane. There might be some more obscure origin I'm not aware of though
>>4101182>Unless it was a pretty dramatically different kit than I imagineOf course it was different, it was a Wizard kit. You can find it in "The Complete Wizard's Handbook" as the Witch (male witches are commonly called "Warlocks" according to the book).Concept wise it's the same class.
>>4101321Quickly reading it, concept wise it's pretty different. Warlock is much more about playing the character who makes a deal for his soul, while the witch/warlock kit is more about adding witch flavor to the wizard class. It's a kit for a wizard that has a cauldron and a cat that's chased by an angry mob ultimately.It kind of touches on the same themes with it having to deal with extraplanar influence, but that's more of a vague penaltyObviously it's also extremely different mechanically, but in my limited exposure to it I don't think you're ever going to see a spell you can freely spam in 2e so that's hardly surprising
>>4070342DND 3.5 Warlock would be a perfect material for a shoot'em up.
>>4101182It was DND 3.5 and Neverwinter Nights 2 was the first game to implement it.
>>4102742The only real doubt I had about it coming from complete arcane is that a lot of those "complete" books were as much compilation as they were new features, but I think the class itself kind of reflected the ideas that were happening later in the edition, like stepping away from abilities that are all based on x times per day. I actually really like a lot of those gimmick classes from that time like factotum, dragonfire adept, warblade, etc.
>>4099429I'm pretty sure they've said if it's successful they want to make games for the other classes. I think this game looks very generic, but in theory making individual games where you focus on each class' power fantasy for the mechanics is a pretty cool concept. A barbarian game that's a melee DOOM clone, a stealth focused rogue game, a druid game that's the first RPG in the history of gaming where shapeshifting doesn't suck. Could've been great with better execution
>>4070342>butt ugly protag>wotc>longouse simulatorI'll pass
>>4099429>Warlock, the (relatively) new donut steel class of D&DYeah, but OTOH this is probably the kind of game for which the class may be good. They probably should ahve kept it for it and not put it into BG3.Also bummed it has to be warlock, don't like the class myself+overuse.
>>4070342>"Role-playing Game">Locks you into a specific role (Race/Sex/Class/Patron all pre-selected)>'Focuses on the experience of...'This is obviously going to be a linear jaunt through a pre-written story, and you're not going to be able to go off the rails too far without severe punishment, if you can at all.Save your (entirely too much) money, and pop in a JRPG if that's how you roll. At least they tend to be more honest about it:>Start as edgy teenager with special power>Put together band of misfits due to the Power of Friendship (tm)>Unlock true potential>End up killing God>Roll credits
>>4112654>a linear jaunt through a pre-written story, and you're not going to be able to go off the rails too far without severe punishment, if you can at all.Why are you bringing up BG3 in this thread?
>>4112660>Why are you bringing up BG3 in this thread?Kek. Didn't waste my time with that one, either.
>>4070342Could be fun, perhaps, will depend.There was really short line between "come to town", "question beggar" and "find hideout", the dragging marks were literally next to him. Also, the obstacle in the road at the start made no sense and it would be easier to just go aroundThe gameplay had the MC / familiar permanently commenting in some sort of edgycool mode.I guess that may come in the warlockiness package, but personally I prefer if the characters show being scared/agitated and uh-oh when in uh-oh situations at least a bit.When I played Hogwarts Legacy, I found the (female) voice acting pretty ok, but I particularly liked her freaking out about spiders, zombies and the like. Or the "whoa" when you try to run off cliffs and the character tries to balance on the edge before falling, heh.Tastes probably differ but I find that more immersing.
>>4070395oh fuck off
>>4070342Looks decent
>>4099429They really have a lot of money just sitting on the table.>force Larian to lend out their engine and make it the new Infinity Engine for D&D video games>make Curse of Strahd adaptation, just add romanceable NPC companions connected to the main story, most of the game will already be done for you>make Icewind Dale style game that is just a dungeon crawler using the same assetsI think that before BG3, everyone still had that idea in their heads that CRPGs are for grognards and normies only want action games, and now they're stuck making these D&D action games and everyone's disappointed there's no "real" D&D game on the horizon outside of Solasta II that isn't an official WOTC game.In spite of all that I like warlocks and hope this game ends up being good.
>>4113763>force Larian Lol, lmao. They aren't WotC's subsidiary, they don't owe them shit and not going to work with them ever again.
This one lets you play as a rogue, instead of dilluting their focus and allowing you to play as any class.
>>4071248That'd be a neat take on the Origins from Dragon Age.
>>4071248>I'd love a DND game where you would actually have to discover how to form a patron contract in-game: stumble across an ancient tome that contains the GOO's real name, find a genie's lamp, some event during the prologue where a devil or some other being bails you out of trouble.It's a cool concept, but unless the theme of the game is starting as a nobody commoner then discovering your class people would be annoyed they aren't able to play one of the most well-known classes straight away.
