RPGmaker games about going to Alice in a world lacking of Alicewith other assortments of fairy tales and literature.
I love Alice!
>>4078027A lice you say?
ENOUGH IS ENOUGHWHERE IS ITTOTAL SWITCH DEATHEMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
>>4078051look on the bright side, at least he's not addicted to factorio or other autism simulators. then it would be truly over.
>>4078058HELPHELP ME
With all the strange omens and celestial alignments considered, What's gonna happen at October 26th?What's the VagueQueen's master chess plan?
>>4078127hang in there bro, trust in mabel's plan, she knows what she's doing
>>4078190>Mabel, girl of WAGMI, will remove Factorio from the earth and lock it in the deepest depths of Shatranj. We will finally get GFs.
>>4078187The plan is that there is no plan. That is the plan.
>>4078199Eldritch GFs to be precise
>>4078051get used to it.we wait.
One of the first heroines in BS1 is a man who successfully became a woman and won Grimm's heart.How might Bill take this?
>>4078331>does he knowAnyway at least one of the writers inside Grimm was at minimum bi irl, so Grimm probably isn't straight.
Sex
>>4078356How is Haigha even alive?
>>4078357She's a strong girl
>>4078331Dorothy became a bitch against his will, so it doesn't count>>4078340>spoilerIt's Anderson. and It's not gay to rape lesser men btw
what a linelove it
>>4078388Retry.
>>4078368>he doesn't know
>>4078439>ImplyingI do know, Fagerson.
and the line "probably isn't straight" is an oxymoron, given 97% of the things I fuck are women, or at least inhabiting a female vessel.
>>4078331dorothy was probably a girl first
>>4078331>is a man who successfully became a womanShe was a woman forcefully turned into a man and then back and forth an unspecified number of times, actually.There's 2 particular places at the Mental Ward that you should check more carefully.
>>4078479I think I know one.When you've figured out the door trick and head to the hallway with the Tweedles, but turn around and end up at Dorothy's house, right?No clue with the other.
>>4078479>>4078486I just did a twice-over of the place. 100 SEN and 0. I've got nothing.
>>4078486>>4078502>No clue with the other.Enter the room that connects to Dorothy's house at 100 SEN with 99 or less. It has documents describing Dorothy's stay at the ward before it was yanked into TCO's Wonderland and before Leaf took her away.Both of those paint the true image of Dorothy's character.
>>4078505Grim. Poor girl.
>>4078058Damn, I opened this up maybe on like the second or third time and just realized that it was 3d
>>4078331 he'll be too busy getting his bussy pounded by the Hans Andersen part of Grimm to contemplate anything
Drew a new one a bit simpler than usual
>>4078912Cute
>>4078025>RPGmaker games about going to Alice in a world lacking of Alicewith other assortments of fairy tales and literature.and porn
>>4078912Based drawfren
>>4078912>Is Elma blindno, Elma is clearly Asian>>4078982It's not porn. It's called hentai, and it's art.
>>4078300>HxH on hiatus again>DRH never everSTOP
is black souls eroge or eroguro
Finally picked up my BS2 save again. One more cycle should be enough to get the missing items and RoR scenes, and then it's CD grinding for a full 100% I'll be content with.>>4079239Mostly eroge I'd say, though a few scenes go into eroguro territory. For the most part the horror and horny are separate, though, and the sex is even somewhat comedic at times.
>>4078300My favorite manga is still on hiatus.It's been almost ten years now...
while I wait for MayMay's next omen, Tell me what kind of feature or mechanic you would like to see in a hypothetical fan-game when i ever get around to making one. I have about 12 txt files worth of concepts mechanics characters and some OC touhou rejects i doodled in MSpaint.
>>4079259depends on what game it is but it must have a blowjob handholding scene
>>4079264Writing that down in my H-scene/Rape-scene concepts.
can a drawfag trace the iconic epstein pose with grimm please and thank you
>>4079582looks way too aware of what sex is
>>4080027Would (you) become a niggerman for node?
>>4080219Sure. Why not?
i want to kiss Alicekiss kiss kiss kiss kiss kiss kiss kiss
I WANT TO PASSIONATELY MAKE LOVE WITH JEANNE AND HAVE A FAMILY WITH HER (AFTER WE GET MARRIED)
>>4080248how's progress on your book?
>>4080251Still awful. Currently ironing out the religions of a few characters and debating on if the monsters of the setting should be portrayed as demons or not
>>4080255try not to get stuck or overwhelmed, I like what you've written and am interested in reading more. speaking of, i really need to work on that Mabel poem before she visits my dream again.
>>4079239There's not really much in terms of "gore" in the game, Legion Saga 2 was more violent.
The Sackhead scene variant you get if you try to do her before giving her viscera is certainly something.
playing dark souls give me much more appreciation for black souls i dont know why i havent done it sooner
Pumpkinbros...
>>4080582>cucking pumpkinbrothose who do so deserve to be physically beaten.
I prefer to think that Dorothy is originally male (a man, masculine, 雄, the semen spurting gender).
>>4080616>prefers his dorothy a manWhy are you ghey?
>>4080485Behold the only person in existence who played Black Souls before Dark Souls.
>>4080622Feminization is super hot, and also relatable since a man understands what men like.
>>4080631>Feminization is super hotwow, you're gayer than that one billfag. quite the achievement.
I like my Dorothy hot and bothered.
DOROTHYBRO
>>4080697I don't think Grimm should refer to Dorothy as "bro", his balls might be burnt off.
>>4080623count me as wellhowbeit out of the "series" i did play sekiro
So is he someone important? Or just some random soul they put inside the toy? [/Spoiler]
>>4080831It's never explained and it's not that relevant, common consensus is __________it's Prayer Master
>>4080831freddy fazbear
Whats the best place to farm souls in BS1?
>>4080998Wonderland?
>>4080582grimm have some fucking respect for yourselfyour tongue is halfway to the ceiling
>>4080831We don't know.Many of us think he might be Prayer Master or at least someone that was acquainted with Grimm at some point because of picrel, but Toro never explained who exactly is he.>>4080998Early on? Sewers and sell the rats' souls.Later on? Wonderland.Use the grinding rings and raise the Difficulty level to get a nice influx throughout the game but specially in Wonderland, and don't forget there's 4 ring slots.
>>4081101Node's garden is beautiful.
>>4080998You can use the new speedrun strat to cheese high difficulty Bandersnatch too.>>4081105>>4080884The Little Girl's Room is decent evidence towards him being PM too; you've got a large version of his sprite overlooking three bears that are not just coloured like the three BS1 non-Leaf fairies in the Forest but also explicitly reference their End C dialogue at around 30 SEN.
>>4081101>>4080582How much of the game's setting is fake? Is Pumpkin Knight actually married to Margaret?
>>4081183It really depends on your definition of fake. Very few actors in Wonderland can still separate themselves from their role.
>>4081189"Fake" in the sense that there was no wedding. Basically, all the stuff that happens between a new round of daughters entering the play and Grimm falling down the rabbit hole. Do they just spawn in thinking they lived their role's lives?
>>4081193The Tweens and Dodo make it pretty clear they know what's going on, it's only over time that the role takes over.
>>4078859Going to smooch both.
>>4081183Node's garden is 100% real. It's exactly as we see it in the game.
>>4081101I hope Node returned Santorini before dying to TCO
>>4081219Someone had to stop time for Pricks to pull your ass out of Hell.
>>4080831Sylvie and Bruno is the key to most "why is this character here, what's their deal?" moments in BS2. The Vice-Warden's wife disguises as a bear and the Vice-Warden disguises as a jester, so you get a Polar Bear and jack-in-the-box in the library. Who these two characters are specifically in the second order narrative and whether Toro understood the book very well is a completely different question, of course.Based on the above I am skeptical of Prayer Master, unless he has been genderbent for some reason.
she gave me a little tease, and since then I've wanted to meet her again...>>4081201not if i smooch them first!
I just noticed, the 26th october is on a Monday, a day assigned to the moon.the date is under scorpio, which is under the ruling planet mars (as that anon from last thread pointed) who's colours are Red & Black (just like mabel's).I looked back at the date when I heard a voice from the moon, and It too was on a monday, at 12/12/2022.It just gets stranger, doesn't it? I no longer see this as a coincidence, It simply cannot be. what more could I have missed? am I going mad?
I can still see it. those eyes. those beautiful eyes....
>>4081246>spoiler Anon, 90% of the cast is genderbent compared to the books.
The CNG really wants me to use the Tweens' covenant. I forgot it was this annoying.
It's a bummer nobody acknowledges that Grimm goes to the moon and probably gets raped by azathoth, I would've expected at least maymay to acknowledge it
>>4081346I mean the character getting genderbent between games. He's one of the few canonical "he"s in the entire series as of BS1 and referred to as a guy in multiple scenes in BS2.There is no clear precedence for ongoing characters getting TSed in the series yet, I would not put it past Toro for fem!Hein to show up in BS3 though.
>on my second go through DLC3 for RoR completion>decide to accept Lingeriena's blessing for the luls>think Nurse Call might actually be a challenge>Chaos BlastI knew it was OP but I never had it put into perspective just how OP that thing is, lmao. Also I continue to be surprised by how strong Blood Edge is as a skill. Anyone have a list of all the attack skills worth using and their formulae?
For the anon who always wonders about it: Jekyll says explicitly the Graveyard is managed by the Sheep God, and the King in Yellow's influence might actually be something they're trying to keep out given what happens to the sackhead.>>4081977And the Polar Bear is explicitly stated to be male in-game, so I don't see why "the character who disguises as a bear is female in the books" has any relevance when, again, most of the characters are genderbent compared to their book counterparts.>I would not put it past Toro for fem!Hein to show up in BS3Hein doesn't seem to have a biological sex of any kind and seems uninterested in the deed. Lindamea could still be a woman under the armour though.
I haven't been in these threads for a year.Did Red's game release yet? Is Toro any closer to making the third BS game?
>>4082444>Did Red's game release yet?Nope.>Is Toro any closer to making the third BS game?Nope.Not only is DRH still not out, there'll be another side game before BS3 development can start. One protagonized by the evil princesses from BS1.
>>4082444Both DRH and BS3 came out, we're all judt hiding it from you
>>4082462I can't believe Toro was George R. R. Martin all along...
>>4082444not much besides Mabel teasing me and bringing misfortune
>>4082444There's no rush, he's already a millionaire he can do whatever he wants.
>>4082581but enough about G.R.R Fagtin
>>4082589schizophrenics dont look like that
>>4082444It's up!
>>4082602You don't hang around the right schizophrenics
>>4082615
>>4082602But the Hunter's sprite literally looks like this.
>>4082627
>>4082589omg, he's Hot. . .
please don't fetishize schizophrenics, we're not that hot.
please fetishize schizophrenics, they are hot.
>>4082687No. way. fag!
I'm sketching this, I might do something nice to it
>>4082850fire it all on leaf
>>4082850that looks sick!
>>4082850All of this just to kill a gentleman
>>4082884all you need is the counter ring + stun ring to btfo him
>>4079239its only eroguro when victoria is on screen
>>4082581Is Toro rich?
>>4083297he's finerich gets thrown around willy nilly these days
>missed the May-may posting hours agoгwe@и@ФbvЁ@Ёw@gДds@тbcft@Бw@uДdik@Бif}Б@cwЁi@tfФe@bve@dДЁf@bЁ@Ёif@Бbuf@ЁqufAlso I drew this.https://litter.catbox.moe/1tszys.pnghttps://litter.catbox.moe/te69w9.png
>>4083872berry nice
>>4083872AIE THAT'S NOT GONNA BODE WELL WHEN SHE INEVITABLY EATS US ALL!!!I wonder if i should offer some wine on the 26th?
>>4083297>>4083659Black souls is very popular if we assume he made at least 50% off of every purchase of bs1 and bs2 its around 1-2 million dollars. what other rpg maker game do you know that made this much money?
>>4084032>1-2 million dollarsdamn, inflation really hit the US hard.
>>4084036https://www.google.com/search?q=how+much+money+did+eeny+meeny+miny+moe+make+off+of+bs1+and+bs2&sca_esv=a81fd5420bb34993&sxsrf=APpeQnuos_clRCDb2ln3WtuLWgjC91dz7g%3A1788783809386&ei=wayeapb0FtuI7NYPwKaMsAc&biw=1920&bih=959&ved=2ahUKEwjW2Kb8utyWAxVbBNsEHUATA3YQ4dUDegQIBhAM&uact=5&oq=how+much+money+did+eeny+meeny+miny+moe+make+off+of+bs1+and+bs2&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAaAhgCIj5ob3cgbXVjaCBtb25leSBkaWQgZWVueSBtZWVueSBtaW55IG1vZSBtYWtlIG9mZiBvZiBiczEgYW5kIGJzMkj6R1DEBliTR3ACeACQAQKYAcwBoAGMNKoBBzIxLjMzLjG4AQPIAQD4AQGYAhqgAvAWwgIOEAAYgAQYigUYhgMYsAPCAgsQABiABBiiBBiwA8ICCBAAGIAEGKIEwgIGEAAYBxgewgIHEAAYgAQYDcICCBAAGAgYBxgewgIGEAAYHhgNwgIIEAAYHhgNGArCAgYQABgIGB7CAggQABgIGB4YDcICBRAAGO8FwgIIECEYoAEYwwTCAgUQIRifBcICBRAhGKABmAMAiAYBkAYEkgcFMTEuMTWgB8SuAbIHBDkuMTW4B-gWwgcHMC4xMy4xM8gHTYAIAQ&sclient=gws-wiz-serp
>>4084038wtf is this?
>>4084039Your mothers sex tape
>>4084040I aint clicking on a google link (which is malware at this point), Show it to me or your claim is speculation at best
The person above me is a fag
the person above me is a double fag
The person above is mega ultra nigger gay fag
the person above me is a mega ultra nigger gay fag x 2
The person above is that but times 3The person below me is lying
the person above is correct and not projecting himself
>>4084052FUCK
>>4084055LORINA
then they fucked lorina and lived happily ever after~ The End.
>>4083754Licking that bunny tummy
>>4084032>what other rpg maker game do you know that made this much money?Omori.
I wish there were drawings of me kissing Alice.I've seen lots of Alice hugs, but seldom Alice kisses.
Thinking of changing my D9 Flo strategy to KP before the phase transition so I don't have to deal with the hassle of upkeeping it. Also her rez can be dodged, right? Alternatively I could always just swap a ring out.
Almost disappointed that Jabber's scenes didn't have the "One! Two!" lines from the poem.
>Rape leads to the true ending
>>4085022The Abhorrent Cloak that's hidden in the Carrol River basement neuters her second form completely.
>>4085370Assuming they do the same thing and not just say they do the Gish ring should be better since it helps with phase 1 and you have armours you'd prefer to use anyway.
Any tips for killing Carnacki?
>>4085442Give him the master key while you're exploring castle town.
Major new switch title announced, you know what that means!Just...
What's the "Try luring it out" message before the bridge to Sho about?
How many of the floor messages were written by Grimm in the preceding loops?
>>4085741Most.
>Picking Unis's side locks you into the Lorde 2 fightYou don't hate her enough. I suppose I could just kms though.
>>4085749So who wrote the messages in the DLC3 areas?
>>4085978Both the CNG and Winterbell used to be part of Wonderland.
>>4085751>this also locks you out of a Cheshire dialogue
Gonna do the VN section, loop, see the remaining Bunny Suit interactions before doing the Haigha scene with it, and then it'll be time for the CD grind.As an aside, is SL1D9 Leiden doable without GA? I imagine you need to go all in on Atk equip for it.
FUCKING FINALLY! EMMM posted some new spoilers for DRH! The game will feature a prostitution mechanic.https://files.catbox.moe/y7v5bf.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/rfftf4.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/t8slr2.jpg
>>4086198Redbros...
>>4086198lmao
>>4086198This game was a prequel to BS2, right? Are we going to get any explanation for what Lingeriena and Baph were doing, or will that all have to wait until BS3? (How would BS3 even work at this point? They've put pins in most everything around.)
>>4086198You can really tell it's slop on some of those. Try harder next time.>>4086264>Are we going to get any explanation for what Lingeriena and Baph were doingIf you actually mean Lingeriena, we know Courtisane is in the game so probably. If you meant Lindamea, that's confirmed, yes. Baphomet is dead though. Dead dead. Soul trapped within Maymay's jewel box and she's annoyed at you for killing her dead.>How would BS3 even work at this point? Mary is still around, Mabel2 should be around, Node and Jabby are probably still around, Cthulhu is still around, and a plethora of other gods are preparing for war and will all have reason to try to take Grimm and what's inside him for themselves.
>>4085978Still Grimm for the vast majority of them.>>4086264>(How would BS3 even work at this point? They've put pins in most everything around.)They absolutely have not. You did do your Chaos Dungeon reps, right anon? There's a massive fucking niggerman war about to break out, BS2 spends a great deal of time on it in DLC 2 and 3.
>>4086264Maymay tells you that Grimm will eventually create his own garden, wage war to other Gods and they will end up awakening Azathoth so ending the universeGrimm has Mary's power of creation now so he would be able to
>>4086198>>4086218Red is perfect for Netorase.
>>4086198>The game will feature a prostitution mechanic.Hasn't that already been confirmed?
>>4086406Anon, it's a troll post with blatantly AI pictures.
>>4086264>This game was a prequel to BS2, right?Yes. I mean, Mabel will show up as implied by Toro in one of the ci-en articles and you know how BS2 ends in regards to Red_____, so.>Are we going to get any explanation for what Lingeriena and Baph were doing, or will that all have to wait until BS3?I don't think there's anything left to do with Baph/Shubbie.DRH will get "a" Baphomet, but we don't know much about her besides the fact she's leading the new Black Trial.Lingerie hasn't showed up in the few ci-en articles for the game or was even implied to appear, so I wouldn't expect her desu.>(How would BS3 even work at this point? They've put pins in most everything around.)BS2 lays out an overarching conflict involving a potential war between Great Old Ones that Grimm has to stop in order to prevent Azathoth's awakening which would reset the universe.That might just be the main focus. The thing is that so far Grimm has only explored 2 gardens in a grand total of 2 games.Either BS3 will have a massive scope, or DRH and the princesses' game that'll come after it will move that plot forward to cut Grimm some slack.>>4086338>Maymay tells you that Grimm will eventually create his own garden, wage war to other Gods and they will end up awakening Azathoth so ending the universeNo, what she says is that the Great Old Ones will wage war against each other pitting their gardens and minions to fight, and that endless influx of souls that will return to Cosmos as a product of the endless slaughterfest will eventually cause the awakening of Azathoth.The point of Grimm going after the Great Old Ones is to prevent the war in the first place.
>>4086519>Grimm has only explored 2 gardens in a grand total of 2 gamesTechnically you explore 6 gardens total (Elysium, Wonderland, Shatranj, the Red Room, the Crimean Nursing Graveyard which as of DLC3 is its own place run by the Sheep God, and Winterbell), though some are of course smaller than others.
This reminds me, think we'll see the ruins of Elysium in BS3?
>>4086198I fell for it until I opened the images.Funnily enough, I remember japanese fans complained about Red getting raped and that's why EMMM added the summon Poro button to skip the scenes
>>4086554They're so small they blend together in my head, but you're right.
>>4086461You misunderstood. In one of EMMM's previous posts about DRH, he mentioned something about prostitution. You'll be able to gather information this way and seduce your enemies.
>>4086949Yes. We've known this for years. The post is still lying: >>4086198>EMMM posted some new spoilers for DRH!
>>4086949
>>4086955I imagine the non-prostitution route is the canon one?
>>4086955LMAO Redfags will kill themselves.
>>4086950>female character having sex with multiple characters is a "humiliation ritual">male character having sex with multiple characters is "based"Hmm.
>>4086955>>4086957She's still going to fuck Poro a bunch of times and enjoy it way more than she ever did with Grimm.
>>4086958Redfags either >have played the games>already know Red has been raped by all kinds of creatures >aren't bothered by itOr>haven't played the games >won't play DRH either >won't be affected by it any more than they were by other games
>>4086961>female character having sex with multiple characters is a "humiliation ritual"Well, yes. Men have had harems throughout history. When a woman has a body count of over 1000, it's fucking disgusting.
I genuinely don't understand this obsession with "LE RED GOT FUCKED BY POROOO", who cares? Is it just because Red has the most secondaries so people have a personal vendetta over them?
>>4086957Most likely considering her dialogue in BS2, but this isn't the first time she's gone honey trapping for information either, it's just that (You) are her first actual customer in BS1."...We both defiled our souls over and over. Just how many people have we killed so far, with no regard to how good or evil they were? ...I've already lost count."
>>4086968Sounds like a mental skill issue. Grimm is a weak slave to his lust who loses to every hole and gets sexually dominated any time he meets a girl who puts up a bit of actual resistance, and Red is a stacy ruthlessly milking information out of people by exploiting their lack of self control.
>>4086971>Is it just because Red has the most secondaries so people have a personal vendetta over them?Yes, pic related was a popularity poll here some years back and it mindbroke him.
>>4086972Technically she sort of prostitutes herself to a dying man in RHW too.>>4086962She seems to enjoy lolidyke sex too.
>>4086976>Technically she sort of prostitutes herself to a dying man in RHW too.It's a completely optional scene but yes it's something she can do.
>>4086975I mean she's literally the closest to be the "main heroine" in the series no?>the only one who, along side Grimm/the player knows everything is fake>wants to go back to being normal like Grimm>has a special ending in BS1 compared to the tragic ones other heroines have>helps him out in BS2>basically Toro's mary sue character more or lessIt's normal for her to be popular. If anything the schizo should be glad she's dead now lol
>>4086971>"LE RED GOT FUCKED BY POROOO", who cares?I know it's hard to understand, but... I don't want my waifu to fuck dogs. >>4086973>and Red is a stacy ruthlessly milking information out of people by exploiting their lack of self control.But why is she fucking Poro? Is it because she cums like crazy on his knot?
>>4086974twws@ubv@и@rДБЁ@efdqefe@Ёw@dwuf@cbds@bve@difds@if·f@wv@b@tb·sk@ewv}Ё@ctbuf@ufK
>>4086975>Yes, pic related was a popularity poll hereI think we need a new popularity poll.>>4086979>basically Toro's mary sue character more or lessThat really annoys me. It's a good thing she's dead.
>>4086975It's worth noting that even if you pretend you're the protagonist, Lorina, Mabel, Alice, Baphomet, Cheshire, Jubjub, and Victoria are all used goods too, just off the top of my head.
>>4086979She is one of the three consistently listed as a main heroine and the one clearly intended by EMMM to be the closest analogue to Grimm, so yes it's pretty understandable why people would end up liking her. Leaf is Heroine 2 and Alice is Heroine 3 for the record.
>>4086980>my waifuYou people self insert in Grimm? I see Grimm and Red together cute and that's it.Red scenes don't do anything to me because I hate frigid whores though so maybe that's it.I'm way too involved in the series to see Grimm as a self insert and I consider him his own character and hence why I want to see him get a good ending
>>4086980>I don't want my waifu to fuck dogs.Don't waifu the dogfucker then? I'm sure there are people who don't want their waifu to rape them to death either, but they just don't waifu Vicky instead of complaining she exists. >But why is she fucking Poro? Because Mary thought it would be a great subversion of the fairy tale.
>>4086985>CheshireI don't think it counts if it was in a previous life as an animal
Will this dumb bitch redeem herself at one point or stay permanently fucking evil?
>>4086988The brainrot of seeing all protagonists as self inserts is surprisingly common and explains a lot about people's idiotic media takes. There are "people" out there who can't read first person stories because "I wouldn't do that.">>4086985Wolris too but who the hell waifus Wolris?
>>4086986>She is one of the three consistently listed as a main heroine and the one clearly intended by EMMMFor me, the three main heroines are Mabel, Prickett, and Node. Red is just not as interesting as they are.
>>4086993She thinks it does considering she says her tits are the same her kitties used to suck on.
>>4087000In BS2 sure but Red is more a "overarching" and "series" heroine rather than a single game since she's in BS1 too.I wouldn't be surprised if Red still manages to appear as a "ghost" or memories trying to save Grimm from going batshit insane or something in BS3.
>>4087000True for BS2 which effectively revolves around them, not true for the series as a whole. Only one of them would make the cut and she already is among those other three.
>>4087003>since she's in BS1 tooSo is Pricks for like 30 seconds, kek.
>>4087005>not true for the series as a wholeBut we'll see Node and Mabel again in DRH, and Node and Prickett might still be alive in BS 3. Yog might create a new avatar and bring Mabel back to life.
>>4086986To be fair those were teaser images for base game BS2, and Red is pretty relevant up to G End. Mabel is more relevant overall to the game's full story but she wasn't even in the game until DLC2.
>>4087010>Red is pretty relevant up to G EndRed is just a pawn in BS 2. She isn't important. Mabel, Node, and Prickett did all the work. Red is just following the path that was laid out for her.
>>4087009Yeah but time is linear and we only have 3 games to measure things by so far.Maymay said she'd make her next avatar more attractive to Grimm so Mabel 2 will be either oppai or a loli.
>>4086967>Redfags either>have played the games>haven't played the games Why are redfags like that?
>>4087012Once you've seen the DLC, sure. With just the base game Node is the only one who appears to have a scheming hand in the plot, and she takes a step back and even lets you kill her at the end while Red does the actual field work. Red is a "pawn" in the sense that Node put her on the board, but she's unbound from the play which is the whole point. If G End was the end you'd only have managed to kill TCO and Mary thanks to Red.
>>4087003>I wouldn't be surprised if Red still manages to appear as a "ghost" or memories trying to save Grimm from going batshit insane or something in BS3.You failed a lorecheck, anon. Revival of the dead is a true test of a Creator's prowess, the entire purpose of Yog collecting souls in her little Shatranj jewel box is for their storage, so that when Grimm awakens as a Creator he can use them in his war against the niggermen. Red also talks about finding a way to revive the book heroines in DLC 1 as well, and even way the fuck back in BS1 Dorothy mentions how anyone summoned from the fairy tale books will return to them once defeated.
>>4087016>Red does the actual field workShe's too weak. She kept dying and didn't do much damage. She's not an ordinary human, but she's still human, she can't fight the niggermen.
>>4087015>Why are redfags like that?They're normalfags.
>>4087015Most popular character = has most normalfags/secondaries attached to herPretty simple
>>4086996 what could possibly prompt her to change her ways at this point? Unless her dead twin sister comes back as a plot point in BS3 her evolution as a character doesn't seem like it could go anywhere
>>4087018>she can't fight the niggermen.This is literally shown ingame to be false. Even if she's no Grimm in terms of power, nobody is. And besides, being a mortal human does not exclude you from being able to fight niggermen or even just being strong (I.E. BS1 Miranda), the lore surrounding the Nursing Graveyard shows that much.
>>4087024Maybe not completely changing but siding with Grimm temporarily to fight the other niggermans and maybe even dying to prove a point
>>4087025And this sure as fuck isn't referring to Hastur here, I'm sure of it.
>>4087027Let me rephrase that a bit, the "mortal" one here definitely isn't Hastur.
>>4087025I still think that if Node, Prickett, and Mabel had fought alongside me, we would have been much stronger. Red cannot offer such power.
>>4087031>MabelLiterally explicitly forbidden from fighting anything of note otherwise Azathoth wakes up.>PrickettLiterally in the fight and periodically takes control over the rest of TCO during it.>Nodelmao uhhhhh her role is "that of your support" I guessI assume she's waiting for a chance like H to take action but that's just spitballing, could tie into her willingness to let you go like she does in H as well.
>>4087034>>NodeWho do you think is saving your ass by resetting time when you lose the fight?>>4087018Without Red necking TCO, which is explicitly shown to hurt him btw, Grimm just gets fucked into submission. She's weak in gameplay for balancing purposes but lorewise she's putting in work, not to mention she survives fighting the three Alices right after. She probably gets ontological buffs from being one of Mary's protagonists.
>>4087052>Who do you think is saving your ass by resetting time when you lose the fight?GG is my go-to answer for most time related buffoonery. I'm pretty sure something similar happens on your way down to GG if you lose to Lorde, but it's been a long time since I've done a full playthrough so my memory is a bit rusty.
>>4087052>Red necking TCORed only harmed one body, but TCO has a quintillion of them.
>>4087059Not them, but that is indisputably the entirety of TCO we see there in G based on what we see happen in it. They're just merged into a single body, which we know that kind of merging and splitting is something they can do. I guess none of them wanted to miss the dicking that was about to happen. Don't do love, kids, it'll drive you mad and make you do really stupid shit.
>>4087056GG may or may not be involved, especially with the staircase before her fight, but GG wasn't even a thing in the story when G End was written (to the reader's awareness at least) and the TCO fight happens right after you get an actual chance to fight Node and see that she does explicitly use time manipulation, if the pocket watches didn't make it obvious.
>>4087067>but GG wasn't even a thing in the story when G End was written (to the reader's awareness at least) Reader's awareness or not, EMMM sure as fuck was and absolutely baked the shit it (the power) is capable of into the plot even as far back as BS1. Node, to my immediate recollection, is never shown to display THAT specific kind of time manipulation, as what I'm pretty sure transpired there was a timeline merge. I'm pretty sure a similar effect happens once you complete the rapedex, with GG seeming to do an emergency merge into a timeline where the dungeon is empty and Node professing that you never even filled it in the first place in red text IIRC.
>Rape fetish gameYou people disgust me. I'll tell my mom about you when I leave my basement. Be prepared for a shitstorm you maggots.
>>4087179The hottest scenes are consensual though
will EMMM commit seppuku once he inevitably misses the 2026 deadline
>>4087181it released in 2022, but the day before we were all dragged to an alternate reality where it's always two weeks away
>>4087181We'll get our red dead hood redemption, trust the plan.
Apparently someone made a Spanish translation of Red Riding Woods.https://x.com/TraduSquare/status/2097714759856472327
>>4087366Cool
Gonna kill the birdwife, T3 Rette, and get to Maymay the long way around on this cycle, and then I'm ready for CD grinding as the last thing to do on my save file. Holy shit is there a lot of stuff in the VN section. Does a comprehensive list of everything even exist?
>>4087669Speaking of the VN section, I find it interesting that Toro based his drawing of the building on how it looked like modernly (before being torn down in 2008), and not on the much smaller size it had when Charles actually visited it. It ought to have been intentional because there's no way Toro hasn't seen the picture of Dodgson in front of the building (the best evidence we have for him visiting the place) when he clearly did see and reference actual pictures of the building's interior. It may be a further point towards the idea that BS2 takes place later than people assume. Also, I really wonder what is up with the fourth girl and her having supposedly died there, because that house was literally built as the Liddell's vacation home.
maymay, I'm so lonely...
I really couldn't bring myself to care about NodeHer ||death didn't bother me one bit||||Unlike the|| other heroines
>>4087874wrong way discorditeboskeletonrp
>>4087874>"fails" to spoiler right>makes shit up anywayNice falseflag.
>>4087882>>4087896Fuck
>>4087874Shut the fuck up, Kuti.
>>4086961Men and women are different, yes.
>>4087943They taste the same.
>>4086313>Baphomet is dead though. Dead dead.Mabel said she was pregnant. >Cthulhu is still around, and a plethora of other gods are preparing for war and will all have reason to try to take Grimm and what's inside him for themselves.Yeah, but how would that be brought over to something that fits into Black Souls' gameplay?>>4086320>You did do your Chaos Dungeon reps, right anon?No, I dropped it around level 50. Boring.>>4086519>DRH will get "a" Baphomet, but we don't know much about her besides the fact she's leading the new Black Trial.So the pregnancy means nothing?
>>4086985>Lorina>AliceI don't think Grimm would see it that way.>JubjubDoes that count?>>4086998Carpenter x Wolris is headcanon.And what kind of question is that? Meaty, idealistic women are a joy.>>4087180Agreed. Watching the characters shrink into themselves as their wills are violated is no fun. They quickly stop being themselves, so you only feel bad for them.>>4087937Node absolutely wore this expression when she banished Kuti. I was there.
>ending b>winterbell>dungeon in prickett's safe space>senMy conclusion: Sex happens as Grimm sees it, but the characters sometimes transform into demonbeasts to fight, and having low SEN in Wonderland just causes Grimm to perceive them as demonbeasts. SEN is a rule built into Wonderland, much like SIN is a feature of Elysium.Thus, all is well.
>>4088223SEN = ***nes*.Honestly, it's not particularly hard to figure out what it stands for, specially if you take Red's dialogues into account.
Does rare_cats actually know Japanese? Has anybody compared the English/Japanese scripts? I was looking at a few item descriptions and there are some very obvious mistakes in simple sentences that seem more like they stem from him not knowing Japanese rather than from him being ESL.
>>4088146>No, I dropped it around level 50. Boring.Rushing levers and abusing squirrels doesn't take very long, the Chaos Dungeon is non-negotiable lorewise as there's a fuckhuge loredump about 180 floors in. There's also the boss chalices and a library in there, but the loredump is the major one.>>4088213>Carpenter x Wolris is headcanon.I take it you've never worn Wolris's ring to the DSK fight?
>>4088415They're friends, as she said. He disappeared on her one day.
>>4088502That interaction only occurs while wearing her ring into the fight, and it causes him "deep grief" and makes him skip an action. That really doesn't really paint it as purely platonic to me, even if I doubt he ever stuck it in.
>>4088503Did he have any other friends?
>>4088508Yes, actually. Black Rabbit, AKA Prayer Master. He built a grave for him.
>>4088509Then it sounds like he's affected by the sight of a reminder of his only still-living friend.
>>4088146>Mabel said she was pregnantMabel said she had a child. Very different thing. She also says she's dead in the part of the game you skipped. Gods are widely shown to lay eggs anyway, and Node's children are born extremely quickly too. Charlotte is probably the kid.
>>4088512He's just the only other one we're shown he had. The Carpenter's friendship with Black Rabbit necessarily dates him back to the original tea party, I'd be very surprised that with how well known he is in Wonderland, how instrumental he was for its construction, how far around he got in it, and just how long he's been there that he only managed to have two fucking friends for the entire fucking time that he was active, but ultimately it doesn't really change my opinion of the matter here. That's a weird fucking reaction to have for someone that's just a platonic friend.
>>4088213>>LorinaLorina Liddell definitely had a family and all.>>AliceI'm talking about TCO here, and he was fucking Shub for a while. >>Jubjub>Does that count?Someone had to put that kid in her.
>>4088517>LorinaObviously doesn't apply to the Lorina in-game.>AliceYeah, and he/she got Shub pregnant. You can interpret it either as cosmic lesbianism, eldritch intercourse, or puppet futanari, but none of those would lead to "used goods". TCO's problems come down to being ostensibly male (something Grimm doesn't seem to mind), and being the patron saint of screeching autism.>JubjubYeah, me. (Grimm of the past cycles. Unlike Hatta, she's not iterating through daughters. She's the same person every time.)
>>4088515Wolris is a role though, not a real person.
>>4088526We were talking about the role. If you mean the actor, she's Grimm's daughter.
>>4088526>Wolris is a role though, not a real person.She's a "real" person in the sense that there's actually someone there performing the role of Wolris, not just some soulless puppet mindlessly repeating a script. IIRC I think Carpenter was aware of the play structure anyways.
>>4088525>Obviously doesn't apply to the Lorina in-game.>he doesn't know >and he/she got Shub pregnantFirst, no he fucking didn't. Second, TCO is always referred to as he when he's not Alice. Third, why does it matter anyway? Used goods are used goods, unless your argument is it's okay when the used goods in question was male before. >Grimm of the past cyclesAnd somehow she's the only character that happens to?
>>4088528>>4088531Yeah and the Carpenter's friendship with PM needs to predate Wonderland to make sense, meaning the Carpenter's actor was friends with him while whatever he has with Wolris is just a feature of his role.
>>4088525>Yeah, and he/she got Shub pregnant.That's implied to be Yog that fathered our little Mary Sue hellspawn IIRC. I don't recall anything from TCO on that matter, TCO's just the stepfather.>>4088542>Yeah and the Carpenter's friendship with PM needs to predate Wonderland to make senseWonderland is, and has always been, Wonderland insofar as we've seen TCO garden in the series. There was a reconstruction period after TCO got its hands on the Power to Change, but it's still fundamentally the same garden as the one from the original tea party. Carpenter's presence at the original tea party doesn't predate Wonderland in the sense that I think you're implying here.
>>4088539>LorinaYep, I don't know.>First, no he fucking didn't.Forgot. That was a different one. Stepfather.>Second, TCO is always referred to as he when he's not Alice. Okay, well Mabel is apparently a dad, so we're really just three guys jerking it in a noxious ERP session.>Third, why does it matter anyway? Used goods are used goods, unless your argument is it's okay when the used goods in question was male before.TCO being a guy automatically rules out being any kind of "goods", used or not. >And somehow she's the only character that happens to?She's just the only character to get called out for it. Bandersnatch is likely the same, and Jabberwock is always infertile. >>4088543Is the Wonderland of BS1 the same as the Wonderland of BS2?
>>4088543Semantics. It predates the play of Wonderland as it exists in BS2, which is entirely contingent on GG and crumbles without it. Whatever role he played there he did so willingly, and he's clearly one of the actors that persist across cycles, so he'd be aware Wolris is an ever changing actor playing a predetermined script and wouldn't have feelings for her that extend beyond what the script says he has while he's in character.
>>4088549>Is the Wonderland of BS1 the same as the Wonderland of BS2?Yesn't. From what I remember, it's the central chunk of the original tea party ripped out by Mary Sue for use in her own play, the start of BS1 itself is a partial recreation of the end of the tea party. The inhabitants there largely originate from Wonderland proper, and even vaguepost about shit that's also vagueposted in BS2 to seal the deal.
>>4088554You should add Mabel's schizobabble about the topic to the collage for maximum vagueposting.
>>4088552>Semantics.It's a pretty important distinction to make.>It predates the play of Wonderland as it exists in BS2I think what you're looking for here is the breeding program, which TCO did use to bait in other niggermen for her own use, but the setup and events of the early cycles/chronologically post-reconstruction Wonderland is a big (and intentional) hole at best.>Whatever role he played there he did so willinglyI'm not entirely sure I'd agree, at least given the description of his mental state as having started out mad before going sane at some point (presumably post-reconstuction based on his messages and TCO's neglect of Wonderland).>and he's clearly one of the actors that persist across cyclesAt least by the time that we see him in BS2, it's been quite some time since he's gone down to the depths of the ocean and put under near total mind control, our chronological cycle point doesn't disrupt that.>so he'd be aware Wolris is an ever changing actor playing a predetermined script and wouldn't have feelings for her that extend beyond what the script says he has while he's in character.He quite literally begs for god (TCO) to not expend her upon the stage like a puppet, though to your credit he does refer to her as "my friend" in that message. Still, I find it very hard to read his reaction to (You) wearing her ring as purely platonic which is the entire argument I've been making here. Rings given as gifts usually represent a deeper bond to the character in question, you can see this with Prickett's Ring, Leaf's Ring, and Baphomet's Ring in BS1 which is given post-covenant. You could make an argument that this is just a niggerman thing but then the Princesses in BS1 also do the same off the top of my head, and I believe it pops up elsewhere in the series.
>>4088590>Rings given as gifts usually represent a deeper bond to the character in question, you can see this with Prickett's Ring, Leaf's Ring, and Baphomet's Ring in BS1 which is given post-covenant.Wolris hands over the ring immediately, hoping you'll show/deliver it to the Carpenter.
>>4088590>Still, I find it very hard to read his reaction to (You) wearing her ring as purely platonicI'm not the anon you were arguing with about that. What I'm arguing for is that whether the relationship between them is love or friendship, it's a relationship that exists in BS2's Wonderland as part of the script GG manages, and not one that applies to who the Carpenter is outside of the play. It's the same as how Sislice is Grimm's sister but Jubjub is not (yes I know Jubjub is another role too, but you get the point).>Rings given as gifts usually represent a deeper bond to the character in questionYes, it's well known that Lindamea is just very tsundere for Grimm but a waifu deep down unironically.
>>4088599>Wolris hands over the ring immediately, hoping you'll show/deliver it to the Carpenter.Usually, not always, as this would be one of those exceptions for (You) specifically, but the Carpenter has no way of knowing this when he sees you wearing it in battle. Wolris giving you her ring and specifically intending it as a reminder of her feelings towards the Carpenter reinforces this all to me.>>4088604>it's a relationship that exists in BS2's Wonderland as part of the script GG manages, and not one that applies to who the Carpenter is outside of the play.We have no idea who the Carpenter is outside of the play, that's assuming that he isn't just a natural denizen of the Dreamlands in the first place.
>>4086198I don't why people cry so much when Red Hood fucks people/creatures. Grimm does the same thing, that's why they make sense together. If you self insert as Grimm, then Red Hood just makes the most sense as the main heroine...
>>4088696No, Leaf does.
>>4088696that has to be among the most retarded takes I've read here in a long while.
>>4088696Based cuckold
the planets mars venus jupiter and saturn.She talks about a war with the gods, befitting mars.She falls in love with the protagonist, befitting venus.she is affiliated with space and in a ways time, befitting saturn.and she is not very wise, but pretends otherwise. befitting jupiter.all evidence point towards Mabel with little inconsistencies, but if so, then what does she plan for exactly? i won't be able to figure out what she's hinting at, at least not with what I currently know.I have to turn the chessboard around. what would I do in Mabel's shoes? cfБqefБ@e·qvsqvho
but more importantly, does Mabel even wear proper shoes? why would an outer one even need shoes?
>>4088618>We have no idea who the Carpenter is outside of the playBut we do know he existed as far back as the Tea Party, and so it would be weird if he was truly in love with the revolving door of Node's children that happen to be assigned the fat fetish role in Wonderland.
>>4088825She seems to be wearing at least one in the DLC2 cover art.>spoilerTo step on me better.
>>4088894>spoilerYog I wish that were me...
Encountered some curiosities from the mysterious night sky worth noting.had nothing better to do, so I sat outside and watched the sky, terrible light pollution as usual. but enough to vaguely make out some stars.though there was nothing much up there, i did note a row of 4 stars that seemed perfectly distanced between which caught my brief interest.As i continued to simply observe, I think i saw another strange light fly through the sky; nothing like a plane. the light was so faint it might have been incredibly high.beyond that, nothing else. so I decided to return. a couple minutes in my journey back, (please hear me out before calling me schizo) I noticed the aged chewing gum stuck to the pavement down before my very eyes was in the EXACT POSITION as those 4 stars I was observing.taking this as a sign, I quickly returned and tried to Identify these 4 stars, and from what I discovered It was the spine for the Andromeda Constellation, with the rightmost star belonging to the Pegasus constellation.so to sum it up, maymay gave me another clue. now I must figure out if I can tie Andromeda to her puzzle.why is Mabel teasing me with such a foolish game? how unfortunate am I to be yog's idiot pawn.
i have the feeling she's trying to make me look mad on purpose, that tease...
>>4089311As a kid, I remember being able to see the stars (I live in the countryside) but maybe I'm wrong, now I can't see them anymore...
>>4088884>and so it would be weird if he was truly in love with the revolving door of Node's children that happen to be assigned the fat fetish role in Wonderland.Unless you mean Node taking personal ownership of the children, they're not all actually hers. Her children are strongly implied to be both rabbit whores, Haigha the March Hare, and Mary in Lutwidge. We also know that the Carpenter has apparently been missing for years now, that the current structure of the play is absolutely not the same as it originally was, and that the current setup is just Node jerryrigging who and what's left to keep the breeding ongoing for her own usage in the upcoming war. Despite that all, it's not like everything and everyone in Wonderland (or the gardens in general that we've seen) is fake and gay, with only what we personally see being real, these are actual places in-universe with actual history behind them and people inside of them, acting or not.Given our cycle start point being as recent as it is in the absolute chronology of Wonderland and the massive void of information we have about a lot of shit happening chronologically before our current cycle start point, making a statement like that certainly feels off to me given what we're presented about their relationship and what seems to be existing social norms in BS's universe. I'd also say that there's far weirder examples and reasons presented for love in-universe than a fatty and a guy palling around, pigging out, and being sweet on each other for an undetermined but apparently extensive amount of time. The gifting of the ring intended for the Carpenter as an explicit reminder of Wolris's feelings towards him, and Carpenter's reaction to seeing (You) wear it, seemingly briefly breaking the hold the brainwashing has on him, and being paralyzed by deep grief just doesn't paint itself as a purely platonic relationship, which is the entire basis of what I've been saying here.
>>4089365I do somewhat wish more of the story had tied into the earlier loops and the steady collapse of the love story.
>>4089409I honestly expect to see more of it in BS3, even if only in passing.
Carpenter and Wolris mukbang
>>4089365>Node says she goes to Winterbell with her kids>Node is almost the only one left giving birth>we see her kids being born in B End>Wolris is in the Nightmare >Wolris is in WinterbellEven if you want to argue she's someone else's kid (literally whose?), she's canonically one of the roles that gets a new actor each cycle based on that last bit.
>>4089409Grimm was a mindless beast in the early loops. There's not much of a story. It bored Mabel, it pushed Prickett to tears, and it drove a lot of the gods to abandon the place. TCO just MKUltraed him a little too hard to make up for BS1 happening to him.Related to this, I am yet more convinced that Node was in the Tea Party. She ought to have intervened for a reason when it came to saving Mary. She was already in love with Grimm very early on, before Queensland existed at all. I find it unlikely she would have fallen for him so much so early considering the state he was in made Prickett weep. Mabel even speculates she saved Mary just so she could get to fuck Grimm to begin with.
>>4088775Great argument nigger/spic/jeet/gook/whatever third world hell hole you crawled out of
>>4089409I like how the blood messages imply an hyperrape 10 billion sen Grimm managed to get to Grand Guignol at least once.
>>4089479>Node says she goes to Winterbell with her kidsThe closest thing to this that I can ever recall her saying is when she's talking to Kuti in the rape dungeon, and Winterbell isn't mentioned at all there, she refers to it as the End of the World. Given the direct relation to the incoming war and the naming scheme, this location/event is almost certainly the one that Mabel shows you in DLC 2's loredump, and it visually matches and shares a similar naming scheme to The World's Dream that we briefly enter on our way to finishing the normal route endings before getting GG'd.>Node is almost the only one left giving birthAnon, what fucking part of Node directly telling you that you're INBREEDING WITH YOUR OWN CHILDREN did you miss? >Children born of your union would unite with you once more to produce even more children.Yes, Node is still taking part in the breeding, that is what she was originally propositioned by TCO for, along with a bunch of other niggermen that initially came for the offer of breeding with a corpse and getting an army out of it, but almost all of them eventually left once they figured out TCO's goal actually was as per the Chaos Dungeon.>The Outer Ones were cooperative in breeding at first, but with that thing's true purpose exposed, many lost their will and their numbers gradually fell.Node isn't the one birthing out more Bills, that's the fucking Bills. If you want to guess where those Bills came from in the first place, try looking to those other fucking niggermen that were present post-reconstruction and were actively taking part in the breeding, the only major exception to the invite list in regards to breeding that we know of was the Lake God, who was literally too retarded to get the fucking point of breeding and opted for spreading their fucking influence to fucking Uggugg of all fucking characters.
>>4089997>we see her kids being born in B EndYes, we see the rabbits being born. More to the point, and as I'm pretty sure I mentioned before, Node is still overseeing the breeding program still because she's making an army out of it, an army she directly puts to use if you decide to merge with GG.>WolrisYes, Wolris is in both of those locations. That does not particularly change anything.>she's canonically one of the roles that gets a new actor each cycle based on that last bit.That last bit is making a lot of assumptions that I really don't think pass muster here. Read what Node says about the breeding in the previous post, it's ONLY if the actor (Kuti in this case) successfully breeds that she'll finally be let go, that is the law of Wonderland according to Node in that scene. It's not an every cycle thing, it's ONLY if they breed that they're freed from Wonderland and their child takes their place. Despite BS2 being a porn game, you can reasonably go the entire game as we see it without ever hitting B end, let alone fucking your covenants to begin with. That is important because it means that not every cycle is going to result in a breeding session, in fact just purely by the numbers most never will.This runs into another issue I have with that assertion, which is that I don't believe that the actors as we see them in BS2 are actually getting replaced each cycle (because oops time reversal, try again). If they are, then shit like pic related becomes completely nonsensical, as it appears in a completely unrelated (and mutually exclusive) context and doesn't exist ingame prior, but accurately depicts Grimm sending girls to the safest place in Wonderland. This flat out is not a message that someone who gets changed out every fucking cycle for a fresh new actor should be making, as that kind of knowledge would be impossible for them to have.
>>4089998The only strict requirement to trigger B End is that you NEED to fuck Node to access it (and not anyone else specifically), ergo all the kids we see hatching in that scene must be hers by your own logic.
>>4089998>picWhat do you think is more likely:>each Shisha will always write that if given the chance, even if you bred the previous one so this is supposed to be a new one, because Toro is a shit writer and the game has no consistency Or>each Shisha will always write that if given the chance because almost everyone in Wonderland outside of Grimm is aware of the rules of the play, as displayed by the Tweedles' dialogue, Dodo's final scene, and a bunch of other stuff
>>4088408Lmao I was looking at the archive and saw someone mention that Jabberwocky tells you to come to her after killing the one who is pulling the strings and I was confused because I didn't remember her saying anything like that and it turns out it was also just another really obvious mistake. Maybe I should look through the script and see how common stuff like this is
>>4090005>>The only strict requirement to trigger B End is that you NEED to fuck Node to access it (and not anyone else specifically), ergo all the kids we see hatching in that scene must be hers by your own logic.Fucking Node alone isn't enough to trigger B, you need the relevant covenants at max rank otherwise it will not trigger. And again, we are literally given direct confirmation on how those fucking children are born DIRECTLY FROM NODE HERSELF, this shouldn't be up for debate because she knows how this shit works, she directly oversees the entire fucking operation. Yes, Node is still participating in the breeding. No, Node is not the one giving birth to all of the fucking children.
>>4090008>What do you think is more likely:>each Shisha will always write that if given the chance, even if you bred the previous one so this is supposed to be a new one, because Toro is a shit writer and the game has no consistency >Or>each Shisha will always write that if given the chance because almost everyone in Wonderland outside of Grimm is aware of the rules of the play, as displayed by the Tweedles' dialogue, Dodo's final scene, and a bunch of other stuffIt's not a matter of "awareness" of the rules of Wonderland, it's her viscerally describing being sent to the fucking rape dungeon by Grimm to keep her safe, in a context where actually raping her is impossible, and if you do rape her beforehand then she'll never actually write that message because she's in the fucking rape dungeon. It's an outright impossible statement to make if you take the approach of it being a fresh actor each cycle, as it requires something to directly happen to her by Grimm that cannot possibly happen in that cycle that the message appears in.
>>4090012Care to actually enlighten people with the correct translations?
>>4090015Poor ESL Anon doesn't understand what past tense is, I see.
>>4090024It is still what is happening, anon. You are continually committing incest on a level that'd make Tomaru blush. We are never made aware of any major changes to the original breeding setup that Node describes right there beyond the original Outer Ones participating in the breeding eventually fucking off, which doesn't change what Node says there about fucking your own kids and making more kids with them.
>>4090023The first two aren't really a big deal but the mirror should say something like "My beauty... even a mirror would be captivated by it" and the eye drop should say something like "Must never be used on somebody who has lost their sight" (and the effect itself would probably make more sense as darkness instead of blind)I really don't know how he ended up with the third one. He correctly translates "獣から。病から" as "From beasts. From diseases." (where から = from) but for some reason ignores the から in the last part and translates it completely incorrectly. The last part should be something like "And from the foolish church that tried to offer him as a sacrifice."And Jabberwocky is asking him if he intends to defeat the mastermind, not if he has already defeated her.
>>4090031Are you comparing the original BS1 translation to the nip, or the updated one? I remember hearing that the version of BS1 everyone here pirated was later updated, and I think that updated version is the one that's used in the Steam release. If the Steam release is still inaccurate I'd like to know.
>>4090032I checked the steam version and it looks like those are all the same. I'm guessing the translation changes were just cleaning up some of the weird grammar rather than retranslating any of the content using the original script.
Actually they did change this one (although it's still wrong and doesn't make sense in context of the game considering he was never actually sacrificed) and the blind one
>>4089557>im every minority under the sun for not taking a woman with a bodycount greater than her kill countthat turns your retarded take into a double-retarded take.
>>4089327It's no wonder, not only have (((they))) doubled down on light pollution, but have also placed dozens of satellites covering the sky acting as fake stars at every corner of the earth. starlink as one example. I can't even locate the dim light of any of the planets thanks to these sattelites.I'm surprised Francis E. Dec managed to predict this in his schizo rant when he raved about "fake phony stars".>1111
>>4090147Alice, I think your rabbit had a little too many carrots...
>>4089997>but almost all of them eventually left once they figured out TCO's goal actually was as per the Chaos Dungeon.Was his goal awakening Azathoth, or was that just a side-effect of his obsession?>If you want to guess where those Bills came from in the first place, try looking to those other fucking niggermen that were present post-reconstruction and were actively taking part in the breedingIs the Chaos dungeon a requirement here? The only connection I'm confident in is Jubjub/Dodo. The others (Jabberwock/Hatta, Mary-Ann/Shisha, and Lorina-or-TCO/Tweedles), I'm not certain about.
>>4090227Well, Bill/Serpent god is an obvious connection.
>>4090227>Was his goal awakening Azathoth, or was that just a side-effect of his obsession?Side effect, TCO's main goal is trying to understand what human love is, and to that end it sets up an endless love story to try to figure it out. >Is the Chaos dungeon a requirement here?Not particularly, given that a good number of niggermen straight up fucked off and aren't present in the play anymore and with how little information we have about the early stages of the play (I.E. just finding out in DLC 3 that there was originally a 4th Older Sister Alice that left the play on her own, and who's place Lorina seems to be filling in the plot) it's alright to say we just don't know for most of them. What I can say off the top of my head is that Jubjub seems to consider the chick in the egg as her own child based on what I recall being a post-birdening interaction, the Tweedles seem to have originally come to Wonderland proper from the Nursing Graveyard, and that Jabber is almost certainly barren based on what's currently ingame though with what I suspect as her history well before the original tea party that might end up differently. In general, just extrapolating from Node's own rabbit whores and Jubjub's interaction with the chick, I'd assume that most of the children resemble their parents in some way so there's a decent chance that Jubjub/Dodo is a thing but I can't think of anything confirming it. Lorina at least shouldn't be participating in the breeding as far as I'm aware.
>>4091205>the Tweedles seem to have originally come to Wonderland proper from the Nursing GraveyardOther way around, kinda. Dialogue in DLC3 as well as Blackwell's establishes that Florence was responsible for both the Nursing Graveyard and the Mental Ward and cared for the Tweedles all while still in Wonderland, and then at some point the CNG was taken away from Wonderland (possibly as part of the efforts to hide Winterbell from TCO) and she with it, and set onto its own altered time flow. So the CNG was just another location in Wonderland early on.
>>4091205None of the Ending B daughters are fairy tales in their own right. Golden goose shouldn't be a daughter either, especially since we know she's "birthed" by Humpty-Dumpty. There's also Griffy is we're still thinking about JubJub...
>>4092056please stop posting nodes like this, it's triggering my male instincts.
>Grand Guignol mentioned in Revolutionary Girl UtenaHuh. Is it another one of those Western things weirdly popular in Japan?
>>4092761>Is it another one of those Western things weirdly popular in Japan?weirdly popular? did you know Paris syndrome is a predominant thing in japan? so much they have suicide hotlines dedicated for it?put the dodo in the pan, and you'll see why it's not as weird as you might expect.
>>4088408>>4090012The game is absolutely full of stuff like this. These all came from the steam release:When Victoria is summoned to fight Patrasche, she says "私はご主人様の事、食べたりしません" which was translated as "I belong to Master, you can't eat me!" It should be something like "I would never eat my master!" Similary, summoning Red Hood in that fight has her say "ポロは私の事、噛まない" which was translated as "Poro is mine, you can't eat him." It should be something like "Poro doesn't bite me."Elisabeth says "貴方なんか産むんじゃなかった" when speaking to Red Hood which was translated as "I could not have given birth to you." It should be something like "I wish I had never given birth to you." During Victoria's bad ending, "[player name]を襲おうと床を蹴り、飛び掛ってくる" was translated as "Throwing you onto the floor with a kick, she takes flight." It should be something like "She kicks off the floor and lunges at you." In Red's letter she left during her bad end, "このまま奴の思い通りにはさせない" was translated as "Left as it is, I don't know what's gonna happen." It should be something like "I'm not going to let them have their way"When you kill Red Hood in her home, after she says "If there's God who gave me this fate…… I want to slit their throat." she says "けどそれは……私じゃなくてもできますC" which was translated as "But that……is not something I can do, huh." It should be something like "But that......is something someone else can do, right?" After you kill Cinderella while disguised as Izu, she says "成る程……っ 私は、嘘で固められた造物であったと……" which was translated as "I see now…… I was caught in a web of lies……" This should be something like "I see now... I was a creation built upon lies......"This isn't even 5% of the mistakes in the game like this. It doesn't seem like plot-relevant details were affected much for the most part but it makes me a bit worried about BS2 considering it contains orders of magnitudes more plot-relevant text.
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>>4093509STOP TEMPTING MEEE!!!>censoredSTOP TEASING MEEEE!!!
>>4093364Well then make a patch fixing the translation.
>>4082852>>4082869>>4082884Thanks anons, appreciate it!I quite like sketching shit like this.I'M STIIIIIILLLLLLL IN A DREAAAAAAAAMBILL EATERRRRRRRRRRRRRR
>>4093619now draw grimmu climbing an endless ladder
Any Leaf and/or fairy enjoyers itt who can recommend me games or manga with sexy fairies? I've played like 3-4 games and read one manga with a hot fairy / fairy sex and I really need more. I have a thirst that I desperately need to quench and I haven't seen enough sexy fairies in so long that it is becoming unbearable. I've been trying to look for them but I can't seem to find anything good.
>>4093675Interspecies Reviewers
>>4093675Yea, picrel is a good one.
>>4093681pretty good but very little fairy content overall
