>>4078871
is this playable if you don't buy new pcs every year?

>>4078871
another BETA release they put out as retail. its a buggy unoptimised slopper.
I'll check in on it in 3 years

>>4078872
https://en.gamegpu.com/test-gpu/action-fps-tps/the-blood-of-dawnwalker-benchmarki-videokart-i-protsessorov-na-pk
Medium and high-end 2020 GPUs get acceptable framerates with DLSS/FSR on ultra, so it's not that bad.

Was really considering buying this but an open world plus time limits is a no-go for me. Choose strategic time management or an large open world with lots of stuff to do, not both. Maybe I'll get it second hand in a year or something

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>>4079058
>Was really considering buying this but an open world plus time limits is a no-go for me. Choose strategic time management or an large open world with lots of stuff to do, not both.
It's not what you think. One thing they don't mention her is training talents also passes time.

>>4078883
>2015 tier graphics
>just play 720p on ur $700 GPU and draw 500W of energy playing this slop bro
go fuck yourself

>>4079105
>energy
Watts are power, the first derivative of energy with respect to time. A joule per second.

>>4078871
Am I the only one that notices this game is just SEO bait Frankensteined from ff14 expansion titles? stormblood, Dawntrail, endwalker. Idk why it’s treated with respect like any normal game

>>4079058
Atelier does this but it’s really not bad. You just have to not waste time or be stupid

>>4078871
>UE5
>Woke
>Console game
>Aggressively priced
>Announced trilogy before release
Impressive line-up of red flags.
I'm genuinely disappointed.
The Jew quest was the weirdest thing ever.
It's also selling well enough, so expect two more games, I guess.

>>4079187
>>Announced trilogy before release
How is this a bad thing?

Welp, this ran decently up until after the first quest and now it's crashing all the time no matter what I do. I'm not even trying to run it on max or anything, it crashes on medium.

>>4078871
The clunky looking combat was on purpose? It looks weird

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>>4079105
The graphical fidelity is actually very high across the board.

>>4079187
How is it woke? I haven't seen anything like that yet, granted I'm only a few hours into the game. Has a great story so far

>>4079580
Player agency lets the main character be bi. This falls under the "default doomer-drone bait" mentioned in the OP.

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>>4079580
2 of the founders are transgender

>>4079187
>Announced trilogy before release
You people keep complaining that nobody does it anymore and you want Mass Effect again though

>>4080114
I don't think we'll ever get an ME-style trilogy again. Dev time between games is too long. The entire trilogy was out in less than 5 years and had people hooked. Now we wait 5 years between games.

>>4080964
Honestly miss old Bioware compared to what we have now.

>>4079580
The adult male character who spent his entire life growing up in a village turns into a big blubbering mess because he's never seen a pig slaughtered before and no you can't choose a different reaction.

>>4079580
Why would you even play a vampire game without some deviant sexuality in there? Zoomers are a trip man.

>>4079580
>protect the jews
>black guy in medieval times
>achievement tied to gay romance

>>4078872
Yes. I buy a pc every five years or longer, and it just so happened that I got a new one last year ;)

>>4082126
>black guy in medieval times
Where? I don't remember seeing any.

Hey, shit for brains.
>Don't bother with the default doomer-drone bait.
We don't do /v/tardation here.

>>4079960
which two? ;)

>>4082132
epilogue

>>4079062
imo this is the most kino implementation of time pressure ever in a game.

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>>4078871
Overall it is a solid enough title. Creatively, it is a mix of KCD, M&B, Witcher 3 specifically, with elements from VtM and Ubisoft titles. OST is atmospherically good, and there are a few tracks that stand out. It does also have some LEILEILEI as well, but the ost is not quite as strong as some other shills are saying it is. Combat is a dumbed down directional system(KCD, M&B) with hack and slash elements. Enemies are very spongy despite the fact that I was an end game character with legendary gear. This is a lootathon whore game as well, with tiered loot rarity. The open world is structured in a semi ubisoft/witcher 3 style, but most of the question marks were relatively interesting. Even enemy camps at least had books you use to unlock skills(similar to elden ring), and they also had some lore that would reveal some info on the big 4 vamps. The story is open-ended, and that works both for this game and against it. I'd compare it to how KOTOR 1 and 2 did it. Multiple different arcs that surprisingly tie in together well to explain the setting and provide insight into the characters. Narratively speaking though, the story is not very strong, you will have to find enjoyment in doing "mini arcs" that eventually tie in. Like the other anons said, the game definitely is pozzed. Many modern colloquialisms(MC says nightmare fuel, really?) Bantu nigger in epilogue, a major character who was a nun talking about how jews and muslims are discriminated upon, alot of church bad as well, gay romance, attempts at highlighting the diversity of Vale Sangora, jewish quarter in main city, etc.

It's not a bad game overall, but it feels very derivative, but that is also a strength in its own way. I wish the vampire world was explored more, you barely get any information and you have to beg the characters to feed you minuscule crumbs. I wish that the game explored Coen's duality as a dawnwalker more, and his psychology (besides the wizard tower quest.)

holy fuck i've turned into a complete boomer shitter. i CANNOT be fucked to check the directional arrows on the attack prompts. they are unironically too small and hard to notice for me. my finger just hits a random directional button to counter before my eyes even focus on the icon. gonna have to lower the difficulty, i do not see myself adapting to this.

>>4085420
To be fair KCD had the worst combat system
This game borrows its ideas for a 3rd person view for some reason

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>>4079170
Nobody cares for a random tranime game
Nobody knows what you are talking about
Name is a reference to a Dhampir Blade and that's it

>>4079058
>Choose strategic time management or an large open world with lots of stuff to do, not both.
I wish I could strangle you through sheer channeled hatred. You are the reason vidya is so bland today. Please leave my hobby.

>>4084406
Thanks for your post anon, I will pick this up on sale at some point.

>>4085942
Ok anon sure. I’ll go make a platformer called “Jak Ratchet & Mario” and it’ll be a coincidence too

Jak Ratchet and the Sunshine Odyssey
Original character do not steal

>>4078871
I'm enjoying it a lot, honestly the time limit is a plus for me because it stops me doing boring shit out of completionism. All the real quests I've been doing have been great and I like that dialogue options do matter and can solve things non-violently.

>>4082126
>>protect the jews
I normally don't give a shit about these sorts of things but I mean it is kinda weird how this is the second high profile action RPG from eastern europe with the exact same quest(they're probably pretty different but I never played either KCD I just heard the second one had a hamfisted protect the jews quest too).

>>4085420
Yeah, fair doesn't give you much reaction time. Story is far more forgiving, but still not fall-down easy as one would expect given the name. It feels more like an "easy" than "near impossible to lose."

>>4084406
Yes, I completed it today, on hardest difficulty, I didn´t play with directional attacks showing or anything. The ingame timer says it took a little over 26 hours to complete, steam says 51 hours, but Steam includes me having the game on pause. Is the 26 hours of playtime worth 70 dollars? Not really, the game does offer replay, perhaps the game that offers it the most of any game I´ve ever played. I know for a fact that I can go in and do another playthrough and get a completely different experience, go to places I´ve never been, do a character build I haven´t done before, use weapons I didn´t use and while I might fight the same 4 major bosses, I can fight them in different places under different conditions. The problem is, I don´t think I will, so we´re back at 70 dollars for a rpg that took 26 hours to complete.
Too few dungeon crawlers, although the dungeons I did try were good. Too much cringe dialogue and time spent pressing buttons to move the game forward without playing it.
I went full blood addict, I gave in to the hunger about 90% of the time. I even killed Anca, the love interest. The game does allow you to play as a murder hobo, but does it allow you to murder the Jews? I didn´t do the quest, so I don´t know, I tried to find my way into the house of some Jews talking, but I couldn´t get in, nothing unusual about that, but the game really stands and falls with whether or not you can kill the Jews. I killed a priest doing secret sermons and I killed the Christian followers, slaughtered every one of them and drank their blood, can I do the same if I do the Jewish quest?!
I was completely overpowered as vampire in the end game, I only upgraded my vampire skills, the neutral abilities in swordmastery like stamina etc. and skipped witchcraft. When I fought the final boss I was immortal, not only was my passive regeneration off the charts, some skill allows me to regenerate with blocking. I couldn´t die, so that needs calibration.

>>4086408
No problem anon. Get it on deep sale, or give it a pirate. Not worth 70 bucks at all though. They rushed the game out so they would not compete with GTA 6 is my bet.
>>4087846
26 hours sounds about right. I finished at 27 hours, and I did everything besides the time waster shrine, arenas, and chests. Some of the dungeons were okay I suppose, and I liked the whole ancients subplot, but that got really boring after a while, since the answer is always blood magic in the mysteries.
>Too much cringe dialogue and time spent pressing buttons to move the game forward without playing it.
Yep, classic witcher 3 walk for 10 hours and inspect while using your eagle vision. I don't know what retard wanted this.
>does it allow you to murder the Jews?
You get the option to drain the jew if you do Vicho's mission if I recall. Also, I think most NPCs are killable, even major story ones.

>>4087114
>it is kinda weird how this is the second high profile action RPG from eastern europe with the exact same quest
Stop noticing things, goy

>>4079960
This looks like some Tyler Perry shit where he is playing 4-5 characters and several of them are women

>>4088104
kek

>>4082126
>it doesn't exist, it's just one instance of killing or bribing some thugs so you can talk to a guy
>vampire from international vampire organization and he's in it for 2 minutes
>is it even confirmed you need it, you find out the secret anyway

>>4082539
when you put it that way, i can't wait to buy Blood of the Dawnwalker™ for sale now at my favorite retailer!

>>4091881
yeah enjoying videogames is so cringe amirite

>>4078871
Disappointed that it’s not set in TWoD , god knows its only getting Ls lately and could do some decent 2 3A projects
Movement and combat are clunky but kinda serviceable, the story is…okay I guess. I mean the game is not bad it’s just okay

>>4093339
I thought the characters and quests and the way dialogues matter were pretty great.

>make a game where the hero's tool kid makes him overwhelmingly stronger than everyone else, even to the point where you have to intentionally throw the prologue just to not beat brencis
>make one of the primary themes whether the end justifies the means
it just doesn't work for me, everything about the rebels and making compromises, why would coen ever let sara get killed because the city guard is on their heels? just kill the knyaz entire army, there's no urgency. why would vladimir feel such a rush to take action? coen is guaranteed to fix this when he finds it convenient. why would coen take the fond of life from his old hag girlfriend? he doesn't need it at all. why are you worried about your thirst? you've not once dropped to the last health block

>>4094077
did you play on story difficulty or something?

just finished the prologue. good lesson on how the time limit works but i was slightly miffed at a couple of things

1) being dragged into a time wasting quest for something petty that added nothing (that dumb kid with the drunkard father who was taunting you). i was following the trail of the graverobber with the batman detective vision, then this yellow figure pops up in front of me and starts running, i thought that was the graverobber and started chasing him. prevented me from doing some other stuff i would have rather done. maybe there's some payoff later idk.

2) also didn't like the fact that i did the lost brother quest last, wasted the time but the game drags you into the end of the chapter as you exit the cave he was in, without giving you a chance to report your findings and complete the quest so it was marked as failed. so basically you're told you have another unit of time but you don't, not really. or maybe you would have, if you had done another quest that gets completed on the spot, instead of having to go back to the quest giver, who knows. at least there was some decent loot and lore.

overall it's just the prologue and i'm having fun but this annoyed me a bit. but like i said, at least it was a lesson on how the time limit works.

>>4094077
In the game the player experiences he always fights characters 1v1
But in reality theyd fight him as a group.

>>4096317
When you have one pip left until night you absolutely have no time left to complete any quest, Coen outright says as much when you get that far. Best to either spend that on a level-up or guy home and wait for the ceremony.

>>4096691
really? i also figured the best use for those time slots would be a level up in the future, but i assumed that, for example, if i had opted for training with coen's dad instead of the lost brother quest, i'd have been able to complete it with no problem, since it starts and ends at the same place.

When do I get to go scorched earth? I fucking hate this village and feel like going Itachi Uchiha already

Also how useful is money in this game? I hear there's an exploit with killing a merchant and infinite looting him. Seems a small price to have a more fun time

>>4097601
The loot scales up to you when you get it, and upgrading it costs money since there isnt any other money sinks.
So do quest at level 35, get lvl 35 loot. Do it at 40 get lvl 40 loot. If you want to upgrade a legendary armor set/weapon from 35 to 40 it'll cost like 20k coins which incentivizes getting the best gear later

>Play duelist
>Dog type enemies and (assuming) other animals will rarely telegraph which direction they'll swing

Epic

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overall I really liked it, there's some jank to it especially when you have to climb shit but the story carries it

Brencis is such a fucking cunt holy shit he just couldn't let me have my happy ending :(

>>4097779
>uhhh just guess bro

>>4097779
Just omniblock. Don't try to directional block the dogs. They can't parry themselves, so when you block, you're free to chain a bunch of attacks up while they slowly queue up their next one.

>Go around village doing quests
>Little fgt insults and gets an ass whopping.
>His drunkard father tries to groom me into beating him extra
>Gets uppity when told to bugger off so I beat his ass
>Quests end with abloooboo you didn't help anything just made it worse

Is this timmy humiliation ritual game or something? Fuck off when do I get to be a total dick villain

Finished Today with the Lacra Quest, great game.

>Go around the map finding rare stuff and treasure
>Mess around with a lot of quests but don't mess with any of the vampires operations too much
>Few days left. None of them are dead
>Can either solo or go with Lacra

I picked going solo through the backdoor of the castle at the start of a new day. I had all my points into sword skills and vamparism...no magic. Killed all of them as a human with Mihai's sword. Felt like a badass realizing what I just did. Great game. Will play again.

>Reaching end of prologue
>Have to turn down a few quests

No... not like this

I finished this last night. I don't do number ratings but if I had to describe it I think everything is kinda good but nothing really outstanding. It does the skyrim thing where the combat is challenging at first but starts to get repetitive and extremely easy over time, although I had the arrow blocking and second hardest difficulty so I could have made it a little harder. Killing enemies is satisfying and I like the feel and animations but killing animals is not fun but I mostly ran away from them. I liked that you got different approaches you could take for an ending though I don't know how much they really differ in the end, it looks like they are going for the choices carry over thing so they will probably sweep some things under the rug, its a shame because Lacra was interesting but because I think her stuff is optional she'll probably get a smaller role.

There were some bugs but nothing game breaking or too annoying, there are performance issues in some areas occasionally.

Story has some cool parts, some parts feel a bit generic or lacking, overall it feels like a less fleshed out and interesting vampire the masquerade but what can you do when they raped that franchise so I'm interested to see what they do with this

>>4098708
If it awakes people off the completionist mindset, it's actually quite an exceptional RPG

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>true Mongolian patriot
>epic tengrist eagle blood magic
>research output entirely focused on torture techniques
>will punch the shit out of you
>will pretend to be busy whenever Brencis asks
>is a fat ugly bastard that will eat your family and rape your younger brother
best vampire coming through

>>4102214
doubt it, every sidequest practically screams for your attention with the way they're positioned and brought to your attention. it's probably going to lead to people relying on guides to min-max the content they get in the time limit that's allotted. it's kind of what happened with fallout.
still, it's worth mentioning that many are at least realizing that there's no point in doing the vapid openworldisms like camps and shit, unless they're related to a story quest

>>4095175
I played on the highest difficulty it's just an absurdly easy game. same as kcd2, anything that has a perfect parry is essentially unlosable unless the timings are much tighter than in those games.

>>4103646
Your skill at action games is significantly greater than the average person's.

>>4103778
I don't think so, but maybe just this mechanic
>>4096342
in reality coen would cast a curse and haste away until it bounced a few times and repeat, making him even more fearsome

>>4102434
>many are at least realizing that there's no point in doing
Completionists when they're old enough to have a life (or at least a job)

I really enjoyed the writing. The characters feel rooted and flawed. Only place I thought it fell through was Brencis himself, whose motivations are pretty 1-note all told. Regardless, first half of the game was ok, it kind of felt like a low-budget Witcher retread. Past day 15 narrative threads started converging in neat ways and the time constraint pushed me to prioritize in ways I otherwise wouldn't.

>>4104585
Yes, really. In most melee action games it's possible to play a no-damage run, some even have an optional difficulty where one hit will kill you to enforce that.

>>4105598
yep, i play bamham games with a self imposed challenge to never get hit and always have an uninterrupted combo in every encounter, otherwise it's almost impossible to die unless you're a quadriplegic playing the game with eye motions

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>bloodlines 2 shits the bed
>dawnwalker is the best vampire game in years
>ends on a modern day cliffhanger
coming to kill bloodlines for good

>>4078871
honestly looks boring and soulles to me. is it boring and soulles tho?

>>4107712
it's good euro-jank
solid gameplay and great writing

>>4107712
It's actually extremely soulful, one of my favorite mcs and the way his backstory and personal issues are slowly hinted at and you get to engage and reckon with them in various ways over the entirety of the game was pretty kino.

>vampire survivors isn't about vampires
>code vein 2 is a mess
>vtmb2 is woke
>dawnwalker is good

>>4082539
>>4079062
Seems retarded, glad I held off

>>4107712
it is indeed boring and soulless

>>4079062
>>4107953
I had 11 days left after obtaining the best gear, killing the boyars and unlocking all ending routes, and I still think it's a shit system.
Since quests take up a varying amount of time and most quests are day / night exclusive, you feel like you're forced to play tetris with the quests instead of just going after the quest chain that you're currently trying to solve.
Plus there's a lot of unexplained or unexpected time skips.

To me it didn't create a sense of urgency, it was just an annoyance.

>>4102398
>comes from a time when Mongols were still Buddhist
>has a Turkicized Muslim Arab name
sloppy

>>4079580
constant feminist blabbering from Anca and Carla or whatever the Gypsy love interest is called and i have a suspicion both women were designed to be chud deterrent even though i liked them (minus the feminist rants)
"maybe humans are the real monsters?" type shit
muh mental health gets brought up too much
church is bad and the game won't shut the fuck up about it, it gets brought up in the fucking epilogue twice
the gay romance route is optional as the woke apologists are no doubt in a hurry to inform you but even if you pretend it's not there and deliberately avoid being nice to Crank the gay foreshadowing is enough to make you retch
Jews very very good and very moral

pet peeve and not really woke but visually the game borrows a lot from medieval Transylvania and yet it pretends Hungarians don't exist
worst example is when you enter the very Catholic cathedral looking church and approach the very Franciscan monk looking head priest and he has a modern Romanian name

the devs pretend like they're very woke / redpilled / aware about real world issues and yet the game is full of anachronisms and out of place millenialisms and has an overall very sloppily realized faux medieval world

game was pretty meh through out most of it and was ruined by its ending

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>39 year old hag vs 19 year old half vampire boy
who comes out on top?

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>>4108751
>who comes out on top?
if you watch the cutscene: Coen is clearly on top

game 1 is old days
game 2 is modern day
game 3 is cyberpunk

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>>4108759
game 2 will be set in 1520, Coen travels to the New World to deal with the Vrakhiri of Mesoamerica, their leader is an ancient Vrakhir called Huitzilopochtli and his lieutenants include other Elder Vrakhir like Tlaloc, Tezcatlipoca and Xipe Totec
he and his court rule from Tenochtitlan, every year tens of thousands of mesoamerican people are brutally sacrificed to appease their bottomless Hunger and the Aztec Emperor is merely the leader of their Blood Cult responsible for ensuring the blood keeps flowing
source: made it up, sounded cool in my head

>>4108189
>most quests are day / night exclusive
Some quests are, it's definitely not most.

>>4108936
from what i've seen activitiest aren't, story quests are

One thing that kept bothering me throughout the game is that how Brencis turning Coen makes less and less sense the more you learn. It seems every supernatural and their mother knows what a Dawnwalker is, and near instantly identifies Coen as one, except for Brencis, who looked him in the eyes and even drank his blood. So I kept waiting for some Legacy of Kain twist where it turns out that Brencis was specifically trying for a Dawnwalker in some gamble and the I CONDEMN YOU TO THE SUN was just an act, because there's no fucking way that this 1000+ year old vampire who made researching the supernatural would make a mistake this implausible, right? Based on everything you learn about him it simply makes no sense.
And then you talk to him in Anachora and he just goes
>Yeah I flipped out that night. How uncharacteristic of me.
And as dumb as it is, I chuckled.

>>4078871
I liked it.

>>4082350
You mean the dawnwalker who has been around for hundreds of years and roams the earth? Not counting that as a black guy in medieval times lol. It's not like he lived there, he shows up to stop shit from blowing up. Stop nit picking.

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Is it true that you can kill anyone?

>>4110136
Yeah, but there are some characters that can only be killed in certain story-determined spots.

>>4110571
Is it possible to drain Neberu if you get your health segments down to one before the Lunka scene?

>>4110136
i'd hate to partially agree with a twitter (or maybe /his/, who the fuck else cares about yamnaya and corded ware culture and shit like that) schizo but i have to admit, for a couple of hours, until it was revealed that the vampire blood donation tithe collection ceremony was basically a humiliation ritual, i was like "but what's the big deal".
if vampire blood gives you immunity to disease, coen's mum most likely didn't have anemia or some shit like that, it was the psychological aspect of suffering through a humiliation ritual under a blood orgy flag that was getting to her.
coen's dad and the other rebels are seemingly motivated by true christian faith, which many people at the time possessed, but with the massive hit christianity's reputation has taken in recent decades, i, as the player, found it understandable but much less compelling.

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>>4109903
>oh you mean that black guy? That doesn't count!

>>4110882
It's just some random agent of Mystery Niggas International dropping by then fucking off. He even explicitly says that he is from Africa and not a local.

>>4110886
Oh thank god. He was African. That changes everything.

>>4110890
Brencis traveled to Egypt, among other things. Isbrand went to America. Immortals have all the time in the world to travel, and this one wouldn't even have come here if he weren't sent by the glowie council.

>>4110809
Brencis is a liar who spreads propaganda about how benevolent his rule is. You have people getting killed if they're too weak, all those draining dungeons, Bakir raping men and women alike, you eventually learn that Brencis is preparing to perform a ritual that will kill everyone in the valley.

Prayed for about three weeks at a shrine to get the bad ending. Holy fucking shit what a letdown.
>>4110921
Was that ever confirmed? It's hard to tell what the ritual is supposed to do considering he never finishes it no matter how long you take.

>>4078872
I played it on the Steam Machine so yes. If it's any help for this hardware the game set itself to Medium everything after the benchmark.

>>4078871
the writing fucking sucks and coen is such a little bitch for no reason and there is something deeply wrong with the epilogues theme or writing but i dont know what it is

>>4113131
and main baddy vampires dont show up at all a tonne of lost potential

>>4098662
too bad coen never acts like a badass always bitching out and having emotional breakdowns instead of righteous fury (which is foreshadowed when he first finds out he becomes a vampire at night)

>>4097595
dont bother coen wont stop being a goody too shoes whenever he speaks outside of a dialogue choice

I struggled to see good parts of the game so it's astonishing someone liked it.
Do you like fantasy? Wolf's, boars and bears. And the real MoNsTeRs - humans. There are so few fantasy creatures.
Time restriction is a joke. Ended without having to worry about it. (Go and see what happens if you run out of time). I don't give a fuck about that family, I don't know them. Maybe I played bad quests in prologue.
Nooo you can't use magic at night and vampire at day, stop having fun, play the way I want!
All epilogues are the same, endings bearly differ.
Combat is 1v1 gauntlet, it doesn't matter if you're fighting 1x10 or 10 enemies. I can't select what enemy to focus, target system just decides for you. I CAN'T LEAVE THE COMBAT BECAUSE IT KEEPS RETARGETING THEM (But somehow when you do want the combat enemies just get stopped on their leash). Stand in place and block-attack-block-attack, remember to dodge the "red attacks", no tactical approach, every enemy fights the same. Dust in eyes is best ability in the game, good job.
Most quests and characters are badly written.
Quests and openworld activities lumped together (I can't find anything in my "quest" log)
Random loot. Of course in school of magic I find books about sword combat and not magic (stop being lazy devs)
Sex in underpants. Holy cuck, we need based sex but also slap big boy underpants, can't model a dick.
Romance with woman was ok and they had usually better quests. After we're done with romance they are back to being mannequin NPCs. (I'm old Coen, remember? I'm 30. I'm old. I'm old)
Generally NPC's don't move much, they are mannequins.
Coen is born as a village bitch not knowing anything about the world. No matter how hard you try he will die as a bitch not knowing much. Seriously, most of the time when we zoom in and click through things to investigate we get: (It's a broom, for brooming/I don't know what that is.) We never learn anything useful from him, he know nothing about the world he is living in.

>>4116077
You can kill anyone. It never works out in games but sure.
Do choices matter? Sometimes, maybe... For example it doesn't matter what options do you pick when "breaking barrels".
Nooo you can't do that quest that you want to and is near and you got invested. It's day, you can't.
Travelsal as a human in this unreal engine environment tends to be retarded.
Walking on walls as a vampire is nerfed to make "puzzles"(?I don't know if they were hard for any double digit human?) but it takes away all fun from using it in the open world.
Beloved crafting-level-quality system.
Devs didn't know how to make a minimap, so they did a Skyrim compass.
Don't know how to end a dialogue? "I've said too much, you'll learn more at other time *never speak again*" or just drop a swear world. -See how based we are chuds?
DEI and referencing real world despite seemingly not happening in any real world place.
Open world - you can go there but wolfs have such a high level that combat will last 10 min.
There was no QA testing. Some quests have misleading information like "on top of the mountain" (it was not anywhere near the top) "find shovel" (it's the most bullshit find pixel location type)
Call me retarded but initially I thought some items could be used only at day or night.
Music gets repetitive.
And generally it feels like they have inferiority complex with Witcher. "Humans are monsters, am I rite?".

Over all it felt a lot like a linear game that tries to pretend it's not, like Telltale.
I could go on with needing to spend 1 point of ability to be able to travel fast in each form (2 in total). It doesn't matter that much but if developer takes away basic functionality to give it back as a skill (or 2) is cringe.

It's beyond me that someone may like the game. It this some delusion to explain to oneself the price? (Why it's so expensive?)
It's a bad game. I really struggled to list to myself good elements like slashing enemies to pieces or environment and character models are ok

>>4116077
>waah they didn't model a dick
faggot

>>4116082
>Walking on walls as a vampire is nerfed to make "puzzles"(?I don't know if they were hard for any double digit human?) but it takes away all fun from using it in the open world.
Interesting, to me Planeshift was very obviously one of those things that scream last minute change. Much like all Haste upgrades were rendered effectively pointless when they removed fast travel time cost, because even basic Haste with Duelist stamina will get you from one shrine to the next in at most two casts, Planeshift has all these upgrades that save you stamina, except what the fuck is the point when you can just Shadowstep and it's not only faster, but also far more economic? Pretty sure Shadowstep was not originally supposed to work during Planeshift, because whenever there's a platforming section where you are expected to, Planeshift simply doesn't cost stamina, ergo it is treated like something different from regular Planeshift in code. But then at some point, probably right before release, they lifted this restriction so now you can Shadowstep anytime anywhere and Planeshift is a borderline redundant ability.

>>4116077
>>4116082
You are a stupid bitch with no grammar, the only valid point is that its too expensive for being a double A game but it being a double A game explains all the nitpicks. Its the first game by a brand new studio.

>>4116488
this is possibly the most pathetic way to defend a game i've ever seen. scary to think you're on the same site as me and at any point i could be reading a post written by the likes of you, without even knowing it.

>>4117152
stfu your nitpicks are not worth shit and yet you wrote 200 words across two posts you are an arrogant swine and you need to shut your boring hole

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>>4118786
Highly cultured individual with great arguments.
If I was on your side I would also be ashamed as the anon above.

>>4118942
see>>4118786
arrogant swine

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Oh for fuck's... is there some place where you can report bugs that isn't some fucking discord?

>>4118786
>boring hole
The SMAC thread is on /vst/

>>4119255
What's the problem? That's a timed quest and it cancels out when you're within two days of the coronation, he's not going wait any longer for you.

>>4120337
Brencis explicitly said that I had time until the coronation, there was never any mention of a second, totally arbitrary, time limit. I didn't even know I failed this quest until I was standing in front of the hideout with no way to mark it.
In the end I reloaded a save and managed to get everything done by the end of day 28, but it was a pain in the ass. I even tried wiping out the Manumits myself before the parley, but sadly the game doesn't account for it. It does at least make the check before the ending cutscene though, so it gets cut short after Coen splatters the blood. That's something at least.

>>4120340
It's not arbitrary, he just wasn't completely specific. He has a coronation to prepare for, he's not going to parley with you the night before it.

>>4120343
But that's the thing, the parley has already happened. We had a deal, I had the vial, and he told me he'd wait until the coronation. If this was just about showing up, then that would make sense. But this doesn't, not with the journal going
>my family is dead
Hell, after I made that post I went and assaulted the castle, and negotiated for their release. Had to betray both the Manumits, Lacra, and even namedrop Isbrand before he agreed, but the family was very much still alive and he was still willing to talk.

>>4120348
Yeah they got lazy with the text description on quest failure. However the quest autofailing at the start of day 29 is working as intended.

>>4120350
So I was getting fucked by the fine print again I see. Man, he really should have warned me about that after we went through all that trouble, on day 28, just before sunrise. Ah whatever. What happened is still a win for the Vale, while Brencis would have been better off dying by my hands, because I at least would have saved him from Anachora.

>>4079062
Huh. I somehow miss this. Heard there's a fucking time limit and that's a huge turn off for me so I ignore it lol. Until now that is. Maybe I'll get it when it's -75% off or something.

>>4122816
that image is a load of shit. sure, you can "explore" without any time being spent, but in this case "explore" just means walking around the map and avoiding most encounters. 90% of the time you see anything that puts a marker on your map, you'll spend time on it. lots of times it's not a predictable amount of time either.
>walk along a road, see some soldiers trying rob and rape peasants, walk around them or use a unit or two of time by helping
>help them and get half the story and gain a new quest marker across the map that will take you over half a day or night to fully complete but you don't know that
>walk along a road, see a destroyed caravan with a prompt to find out more, ignore it or lose time
>walk along a road, see some soldiers destroying a checkpoint shrine, walk around them or lose a couple of units of time.
>walk along a road, see someone in distress, ignore them or lose time

^^^
AND NONE of these types of encounters are related to the main quest. the main quest is some assassin's creed shit where you have to intercept 4 blood caravans, destroy 3 breweries, raid 2 prisons, so the local vampire can come out and get killed by you

AND when you gain experience for all these quests and kills, you have to dedicate time units to spend your points to learn and improve skills. let's say i've accumulated 15 points through leveling up and completing quests. a day is 8 time units and a night is also 8 time units. that means that if i want to spend those 15 points to improve my character, that's a full day off the time limit gone.
i'm not saying the time limit isn't generous or anything, just that the image is full of shit and when you get a complete idea on how the time limit actually works, it'll have you acting frugally with the content you allow yourself to experience, which i consider a major failure on the game's part.
the actual content and the production values are actually pretty damn good. the combat's fun too.

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>>4122933
>ignore all main quests
>powerlevel magic
>go to the castle during the day and curse everything to death

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>>4122933
>lots of times it's not a predictable amount of time either.
Every time you run across something that will take up time, you hear a sound effect and the amount of bars it uses up will flash. Every quest or dialogue option that uses up time will indicate how many bars will be taken up.
>it'll have you acting frugally with the content you allow yourself to experience, which i consider a major failure on the game's part.
How is it a failure when that's the entire point of including this kind of time limit? They didn't want anyone mindlessly doing all the activities and sinking a bunch of points into skills and abilities they weren't going to use.

patch fucking when

Once they decided to nerf the shit out of the time limit for release they should have just turned it into a difficulty setting.
>story: learning skills doesn't cost time, court activities cost 1 unit
>fair: same as current
>challenging: fast travel costs 1 unit
>duelist: time costs are not shown in advance
Or something.

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>>4109795
>It seems every supernatural and their mother knows what a Dawnwalker is, and near instantly identifies Coen as one, except for Brencis, who looked him in the eyes and even drank his blood.
This gets addressed if you parley with him, he was having a slow brain night.

>>4125139
>Every time you run across something that will take up time, you hear a sound effect and the amount of bars it uses up will flash. Every quest or dialogue option that uses up time will indicate how many bars will be taken up.
you get a notification about how much each individual activity would take just before it but if you're drawn into a quest you don't know how many individual time-unit consuming activities the quest is comprised of.
for example: your dad's old army buddy. you have no clue how long the whole chain is and activities keep coming and coming.
or the uriash chieftain woman. all you get from her is
>come see me, i have a request.
you see it takes one time unit to ask her about what her request is. you don't know what follows from that.
>How is it a failure when that's the entire point
because i consider that a bad "point" to have

i'd like to reiterate i do like the game all things considered, just don't care for the time limit's implementation and the way that image described it. i'm just responding to the points you made.

>>4126202
>you get a notification about how much each individual activity would take just before it but if you're drawn into a quest you don't know how many individual time-unit consuming activities the quest is comprised of.
for example: your dad's old army buddy. you have no clue how long the whole chain is and activities keep coming and coming.
If an option takes up too much time for your preference, you can just refuse to proceed to any further and go do something else for a while. There are only a handful of time sensitive quests that require your immediate attention before they autoresolve on their own.
>because i consider that a bad "point" to have
I don't get it. You have plenty of time to do the majority of the content. The final quest takes up no time units at all, you can do content and level up to your heart's content up until the final night and then have at it. You have to make a conscious choice to go over the 30 day limit, there's no getting blindsided.

>>4126569
>If an option takes up too much time for your preference, you can just refuse to proceed to any further
very true, i dropped or refused to do a couple of quests for this reason myself. that's what i was referring to when i said "it'll have you acting frugally with the content you allow yourself to experience"
on the positive side, i suppose it feels a bit cathartic to be like "you sound boring, i won't do your quest, fuck off".

>I don't get it. You have plenty of time to do the majority of the content
yeah you do but you don't know that on a first playthrough. in my game by the time like 6 days had passed i had barely done fuckall, i think i killed ambrus (one of four) on day 7 or 8, and it felt stressful. shit speeds up once you get your bearings but how could you know?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eD-P671830U

good news, using some shader precomp app you get free fps in dawnwalker apparently

>>4126575
>yeah you do but you don't know that on a first playthrough.
Once you figure out you can initiate the final quest any time by using your vampire teleportation and wall climbing ability to scale the wall of the castle, you should be able to relax and realize you have all the time in the world.

Are they determined to delay their first patch until not a single player is left or what.

the interactions with the rebel leader crake are giving me the creeps, is he the gay romance option? also he introduced me to some rabbi, if i follow the manumit quest chain will it railroad me into the "protect the jews" quest? i don't want to deal with that cringe shit. i did pay off the thug that threatened the rabbi, is that all there is to it? i assumed you'd be defending the jewish ghetto against a pogrom or something, based on the posts in the thread.

>>4129157
Yeah, early on Drogos hints that the only reason Crake wanted you in was because he wanted to be inside you.

>>4129157
Give in to hunger and kill them all. It's a dogshit faction, but at least that way you can tell Drogos he was right about you all along.

>>4129157
I actually gave him more negative responses during his quest chain because I wanted the gay shit to end asap.
Funny how that goes.
After meeting him outside the city I never saw him again and finished the game with the brown bipolar girl.

>>4078871
I don't play UE games, so it doesn't matter how good it might be, I ain't getting it

The only non-generic named NPCs who can't in any way die in the game are Lunka, Heilie, the sanzhani, and Neberu, right? Have I missed anyone?

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ah, finally beat the game, let's see what people are saying about it on the steam forums!

>>4131091
so is this another of one those
>church categorically bad evil good
games?

>>4131142
Nah, not really. But Coen is not as devout as you'd expect from a 14th century slav village kid.

>>4131142
church doesn't really seem to be much of a factor at all in the game, except for a couple of snide remarks from characters. makes sense since it's outlawed and all. though there are more people who are religious and your fast travel points are christian shrines, some of which you have to rebuild or stop from being destroyed by the vampires' soldiers. there's a corrupt priest working for the vampires but he's playing his own game.
all of this is pretty minor, both the pious/positive stuff and the atheistic/negative stuff.

>>4131142
It's an "everyone is evil" slavic game.

>>4131091
Russian psyop. This along with woke accusations is something they've been running on every Steam board with private or no game profiles for years.

>take a month and a half to release your first patch
>no NG+
>no new enemy types
>the most advertised feature is animal petting
Well fuck me.

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got 10 days left and i'm already done with every significant quest i encountered, i have the option to initiate the end game in multiple ways and i don't even see any reason to explore the map

i was actually at the same spot with 12 days left and i spent some time roaming the map but every thing that looked enticing was just some bullshit irrelevant open world faggotry like a bandit camp or vampire court activity that's meant to provoke the anger of vampire gimps i've already fucking killed so it shouldn't even be on the fucking map.
maybe there's some good quests that feed me lore about the world still out there but how would i know. everything i've seen so far makes me think that random exploration is pointless.

hell, even the story quests leave you blueballed, metaphorically speaking. i finished lacra's quest line and the last one was some intriguing vampire trying to tame eldritch energy and at the end you get a notebook with his notes and all you get is "this sounds bad".
i was hyped to finish the xanthe quest, thinking i'd finally get some lore. instead all i got is "you don't even know what you're dealing with, trust me, you don't even know. you need my help, you'll see why you need my help later, you don't even know bro"

all game i got fed nothing but crumbs about the ancient inhabitants of the valley, the spooky hell dimension, the vampire police. i suspect that if i'm lucky, i'm about to get a huge infodump about most of it in the last couple of hours of the game, but that's not a fun way to go about it

>>4132246
>i suspect that if i'm lucky, i'm about to get a huge infodump
Ehehehe hahaha. I'll just tell you right now and hopefully spare you the disappointment. You won't get shit. Absolutely nothing. I'll also let in on something that you won't see because you already know too much, and that's Brencis going, paraphrasing
>I could tell you everything. All at once. I would revel in seeing your mind break from the knowledge. But knowledge is power, and I won't give you shit.
And that's it. That monolog from Brencis is the entire game in a nutshell.

>>4131473
>no new enemy types
That was never on the table.
>the most advertised feature is animal petting
Easy to do reddit-bait.

>>4132302
>That was never on the table.
They talked about it actually, in the interview that first announced the patch.
>Tomaszkiewicz also told me in an interview that the studio is exploring a New Game Plus mode - "Yes, we are," he said smiling but not saying anything more - and potentially adding new enemies to improve variety. "There is a chance but I don't want to speak about it yet," he said. "We will have the proper beats with our publishing team and if I tell you more, they will kill me."

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>>4132298
i don't like this...

>>4131449
>provide proof it's woke
>devs say it's woke
>"IT'S A RUSSIAN BOT FARM"
it's impossible to converse with liberals

>>4132298
you were 100% right. it was actually weird. lacra was so adamant about not revealing anything, she even scolded me for reading notes scattered around the castle. it was weird. and brencis did really give me the finger when i asked what the fucking ceremony was even supposed to do.
so in the end this game didn't even have a payoff. i feel like i spent 30 hours playing the prologue of the dawnwalker(tm) series. the faggot modern-day scene after the credits makes it seem like it's unlikely i'll ever meaningfully revisit the world of this game or find anything out about it. annoying. i did actually like the supernatural world setup, the waifus and the vampire court characters and i was hoping the next game might be a direct sequel, not a fuckhueg timeskip that renders everything pointless

>>4132308
I see, thanks. Well if that does happen it's definitely going to take longer than a month if they're making creatures with new models, rigs, and abilities and not just superficial reskins which doesn't do much to add variety.

>>4132332
I read the first two pages of that Steam thread, out of curiosity, and it was extremely shitty even by Steam boards standards.

>>4133323
If it happens I expect they will add a bunch of noteworthy features in one big patch a month or two from now, push it out along with a 30% discount to drop the price down to $50, and treat it like a second release.

>>4133280
To be fair Lacra has pretty good reasons for wanting to keep you in the dark, considering she spends the entire game disobeying her orders. But yeah, the lack of a real payoff for all the teased lore and worldbuilding sucks hard and I can't fathom why they did it like this. You can sort of piece together that Brencis's plan was more or less
>summon a haze over the sun so vampires can walk freely during the day
>merge with Anachora, a powerful entity from Anachora, or the god of vampires himself to give vampire hell the middle finger
>reveal himself to the greater world and give Augurs the middle finger
>expand his domain
>negotiate peace with neighboring powers by selling them Vale Sangora's silver
But it's like, what's the point if none of this ever comes to pass and you can't even discuss any of this with anyone in the game. Dawnwalker's story remains from start to finish a rescue/revenge plot and cockblocks any attempt to divert focus to something else even though the game itself relentlessly teases you with all this shit.
>a direct sequel, not a fuckhueg timeskip
It won't be a direct jump to modern days, so next game should be something like under 200 years after this game. I'd wager it will be Coen's first official assignment as an Arbiter. But the Vale Sangora part of the story is done, and that's why it's so incredibly fucking annoying that all that lore specific to Vale Sangora is not given proper closure. It's like they forgot this should be a self-contained story first and foremost, and not just a teaser for the rest of the series.

>>4133422
yeah i was able to piece those bits out myself (except for the haze, i missed that one)
but like you said, it's just not satisfying when the game treats it as some minor curiosity/fluff and the main characters pretend like there's nothing there
>I can't fathom why they did it like this
after beating the game i went online to see if there was anything i missed and according to some people on reddit, they apparently left so much unresolved/undisclosed so they have more writing freedom for the second game and not having to worry about retconning. which just pisses me off more, everyone who played the game got cucked out of more lore for the sake of some second game whose release was anything but certain.

>all that lore specific to Vale Sangora
i'm sure they can make the ancient civilization shit be ubiquitous worldwide. i think only the uriashi are something we wouldn't be able to revisit since it's a romanian mythological creature. the st. mihai plot seemed like it was supposed to have more to it too i guess.
i'm kind of hoping they come out with some story dlc ala hearts of stone/blood and wine about doing whatever it is that needed urgent doing in regards to lunka so we can get some more story about the world and augurs but i'm not holding my breath.

>>4133422
>But yeah, the lack of a real payoff for all the teased lore and worldbuilding sucks hard and I can't fathom why they did it like this.
Same reason why Bioware did it this way when they did Mass Effect. They don't actually know. They're making it up as they go along.

>>4078871
The mechanics in this game seem fun as hell, and the witchfu is pretty hot but baw god I hate time limits.
I started this up and immediately the fomo ruined any comfy fun so I stopped to play more relaxing stuff.

What is it with RPGs attracting masochist devs and players that defend stupid decisions like this?

>>4137301
The time limit might as well not exist in the final game. You get a teaser of what it should have been in the prologue, but afterwards you have to actively try to fail the deadline. And by actively try I mean I was literally pissing time away praying at a shrine for the final five or so days to see what happens.

>>4137301
The time limit is irrelevant other than the prologue. You can easily do everything and have time left over.

>>4137301
i ignored 90% of open world crap (like clearing camps and whatnot) that takes time, in fear of the time limit. by the time i had cleared all the story content and maybe 90% of sidequests that have a story, i had 10 days left, that's a full one third of the time limit.
i had i think 17-18 days left by the time i unlocked the first path to the ending, that is to say, i could have initiated the endgame any time i liked after that.

time limit's extremely generous. if you're worried about it, just rush one of the quest chains that seems likely to you ASAP and then continue exploring the game at your own pace. even if you don't unlock another ending path, you'll always have the option to finish the game

>>4137413
It's not like you even need to unlock anything, you can always climb the castle wall at night and begin the endgame. And since entering the final dungeon effectively stops the timer, you don't even need to save segments for it.

>>4137301
The time limit is purely narrative. Whether your family is around in the ending or not doesn't really matter, you just have one mandatory door fixing scene and a few optional dialogues.