Why are you surprised? This game has been on life support for years and no one but the most hardcore Star Wars fans cares. It's confined to the same pit of mediocrity that all MMO's eventually end up.

>>4079272
They killed SWG for this, at least, we should get something good, fun to play, it's not too much to ask for.

I think you might be misunderstanding what this game really is. It is not the best foot forward for multi-player star wars. Neither Disney nor EA think that. It is an old attempt to chase the at the time trendy mmo genre and it was clear within a year that they fucked up. Its been allowed to operate for over a decade now on a skeleton crew because it prints money without much effort. They are never going to invest heavy development time or technology in this game again. If a studio has a great idea for a multi-player star wars game, EA will greenlight its development rather than waste any time trying to bring SWTOR up to par. SWTOR has always had immense technical challenges because of the shitty, jury-rigged engine they chose to use so starting over again would be cheaper and easier anyway. And it will probably look more like Destiny or Helldivers because that's what actually popular these days. MMOs are dead. Expect nothing from this game but more of what they've been doing, and expect that to dwindle as well.

>>4079355
>so starting over again would be cheaper and easier anyway.
If I remember correctly, the devs said they will move the game to a better engine, if they finally do it, I want a good deep remake for the combat.

Another thing I truly hate and I forgot to write it in OP, the awful millennial writing, it gives me Borderlands vibes which I hate
>be me, playing imperial agent
>my boss, Keeper, has manners
>I do the same since 'manners maketh the man'
>my (not wanted) companion Kaliyo Djannis disapproves for some reason
Ok, bitch, you are anarchist and all that retarded stuff, it doesn't mean you have to be an asshole every time there is a conversation. I wish you could kill the companions you dislike whenever you want.

>>4079265
You should visit /swgg/ on /vm/.

>>4079265
It's the only Star Wars game where I can play old republic era sith, not cringy rule of two sith or fallen to the dark side jedincel. Also, only SW game where you can play sith purebloods.
So no matter what you will say, it ends up best SW game for me. Yeah, an mmo. Says more about shitty series that SW is and that fans want their trooper and jedi slop.

>>4079965
Dude, I think you misunderstood the thread, I don't want this game to fail, I want it to show the true potential of the Old Republic era.
>the only Star Wars game where I can play old republic era sith, not cringy rule of two sith or fallen to the dark side jedincel. Also, only SW game where you can play sith purebloods.
THIS.
Also, the politics in this game actually make sense (except the Zakuul arc), are cool and interesting, something than the 9 films were not able to do. And this is why I dislike the Zakuul arc:
>retcons the previous peace treaty between the Republic and the Reich
>previously the treaty was a masterpiece of Sith diplomacy (the own game tells you that), with the Eternal Throne exp. its devs can't stop telling you how bad it was and how the Sith could have done it better;
>Zakuul, finally an interesting third party that breaks the awful manichean duality Republic vs Reich, ends up in nothing
>the Eternal Fleet, YOU become its leader just to be wipeout 5 seconds later and nothing happens, no attempt of rebuilding it
Star Wars MUST STOP retconning its cool things by turning them into lameslop.

>>4079265
so what is the new SWTOR expansion? what's the selling point? are they doing a story thing? is it gonna be more third-faction gay shit like kotfe?

>>4080291
Why did you get the third-faction thing?

>>4079265
This game was being propped up by whales a decade ago, how the fuck is it still going?
Lana is wife material btw

>>4080739
Idk. I prefer Watcher-Two, she is literally (genetically) the perfect girl.

>>4079265
Their last few "expansions" have been ass because they started copying the GW2 formula aka splitting them into chunks released over a long period of time. Some interesting stuff in 8.0, though.

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If you play swtor without much cynism (hard after 25+) then it's a 9/10.
There's enough base game content to play for an entire year, maybe three if you wanna do all classes up to Makeb + various events.
Writing, stories, characters, companions and even the romance options, especially on Imperial side show that someone gave a fuck.
Treat it like a game made by passionate people in a garage with a piece-of-shit engine because normalfags want
>muh graphics
But if you don't like star wars, or mmos, or that they killed SWG for this, it's a 5/10 game.
if you really hate tab combat, it's a 4/10.
>>4079355
thanks for saying what I was trying to say in a quicker fashion
>>4079607
I fucking love that Keeper mirrors your behaviour. If you're polite and mission-oriented, he speaks audibly softer and (almost) teacher-like.
If you're aloof, he's aloof.
if you're snarky, he has one-liners loaded in the chamber every time kek
>for once, *try* to sound professional, agent

playing as smart girl like pic related while having force powers from other classes was my solution to the tab targeting since half the actions are aoe and the batman ending was satisfying

>>4081130
Perfect gets boring. Now, a crazy ass bitch that Jaesa turns into is more the gentleman's style.

>>4081258
>Some interesting stuff in 8.0
Like what?

>>4081919
I would agree with you if 98% of the gameplay was not the awful combat and boring walk simulator.

>picrel
Who is she? From what universe?

>having force powers from other classes was my solution to the tab targeting
I play all classes, the problem is the same for all. And if it was action combat, it would be the same boring problem, if your moves don't matter because it's button-mashing, then it's a bad combat.
>since half the actions are aoe and the batman ending was satisfying
I don't get the reference, can you explain it to me?

>>4080291
>is it gonna be more third-faction gay shit like kotfe?
They kind of dug their graves with that stuff. How else would they effectively destroy the 3rd faction and bring back the original Republic vs Empire? Their best bet is to do 2 types of story. One would be your generic Empire vs Republic, with minimal Alliance 3rd wheeling bullshit. And the 2nd type of story would be the Alliance exploring/solving cosmic horrors and old sith/jedi civilizations in deep space. Away from all the Empire and Republic politics. Sort of like Indiana Jones, in space.

I know this board is slow, but this feels like a thread that could have been from more than 10 years ago

>>4083981
There's no more new MMOs or any hype around new MMOs anymore, so people are coming back to the few that remained and survived. Also, SWTOR is actually a nice game ever since you can freely do the story and have zero reason to grind through for experience, it's a fun and lore/story heavy RPG. One of the few /v/idya worlds you can immerse yourself with, if you are not a 25+ year old,completely jaded individual.

>>4084005
>have zero reason to grind through for experience,
You forget about the slow walk / speed / mount simulator (this last two are slow too), and the constant go-and-return in every single mission.

>it's a fun and lore/story heavy RPG.
"""Fun""" if you somehow forget about all the boredom, which it's 99% of your time playing the game, in between of those funny seconds.

>if you are not a 25+ year old, completely jaded individual.
Well, it's joever for me, then.

>>4084005
I would be surprised if even these supposedly fresh-faced, ever-joyful and unblemished under-25's could enjoy the basic gameplay these days. I'm an unc who played it at launch and for its time, the moment to moment gameplay was acceptable. These days it strikes me as ridiculously tedious. Sure, the bioware dialogue wheel is fun enough, but its always darth so-and-so sending you to pick up a macguffin from an enormous warehouse full of hundreds of generic minions that you slaughter effortlessly. Compared to current day looter shooters that have filled the mmo niche, it's pretty unengaging. Maybe if you're literally 12 and have very little experience with online games or just video games in general. That would also help with being engaged with the writing which can be very ho-hum. Especially the planetary stories which are monotonous "stop the/acquire the doomsday weapon(s)" every time.

I think this game is just for hardcore star wars addicts these days. If you just can't get enough you will find a lot to sink into here. If you liked mostly kotor and don't otherwise care deeply for star wars the game is mildly disappointing, but admittedly it still has some of that old shine. Korriban still has my love.

>>4083981
SWTOR (and other SW games) had a general on /vg/ for years, now it's on /vm/.

>>4085513
>I think this game is just for hardcore star wars addicts these days
I watched the prequels/origunal movies years ago and liked them. Then, I heard about a Mass Effect style game set in Star Wars and thought that was cool. Then I played KOTOR 1 and 2 and fell in love with the philosophies ingrained into the writing, especially in the 2nd game. This made me like SWTOR even more. I wouldn't say I'm a hardcore addict, but, basically, I got pushed into playing the MMO due to the really good RPGs. I believe I would share the same fate if Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 ever got a story heavy spiritual sequel in MMO form.

>>4085513
>>4079265

I enjoyed SWG but let's not pretend it didn't have its flaws, no actual content for one.
This game has a lot of the older non woke bioware and pre-disney star wars preserved in amber still.
It's also an mmo that didn't flanderize and disneytize (ironic) all of its own property, at least for the classic storylines. I'm amazed that things like leia bikini, slave girls and shock collars still exist there.

So the original stories still feel like an immersive world to wander around in, which is something, the engine was improved, and you can do two builds on one character now and mix most classes you want with only force or tech classes having to match a force or tech story which rounds out some interesting RP choices.

Their decade + of system and grinds and voice work miraculously add up to something engaging with such as the starship mode (something mmos and even single player rpgs never got right including mass effect itself, owlcat, and Pillars 2)

Broadsword seems willing to address a core problem: most of it is too easy, so at least they have the right mindset for mmos. I think they were part of the DAOC crew at one point?

It still feels like an RPG due to the incredible story density and length of the single player modes, even if the gearing and build choices are fairly shallow...still more depth in two classes and a companion choice along with a few skill nodes than many.

There's little else I can casually play with my friends like this and still grind alone when I want that feels like an RPG not a woke fest or empty korean theme or minecraft builder. Not into waiting the rest of my life for the disappointment that will be "classic +" quote air quotes quote unquote either.

I'm not a hardcore star wars fan as I can't stand what the prequels did much less disney but at least I can find some fun there that isn't completely cringy, since if you're an RPG fan it's hard not to love KOTOR.

>>4080089
I see. I misunderstood you. Well, it's an mmo, so it has plenty of problems, I would much rather it was singleplayer, but it is what it is.