[a / b / c / d / e / f / g / gif / h / hr / k / m / o / p / s / t / u / v / vg / vm / vmg / vr / vrpg / vst / w / wg] [i / ic] [r9k / s4s / vip] [cm / hm / lgbt / y] [3 / aco / adv / an / bant / biz / cgl / ck / co / diy / fa / fit / gd / hc / his / int / jp / lit / mlp / mu / n / news / out / po / pol / pw / qst / sci / soc / sp / tg / toy / trv / tv / vp / vt / wsg / wsr / x / xs] [Settings] [Search] [Mobile] [Home]
Board
▼ Settings Mobile Home
/vrpg/ - Video Games/RPG

Name
Spoiler?[]
Options
Comment
Verification
4chan Pass users can bypass this verification. [Learn More] [Login]
File[]
  • Please read the Rules and FAQ before posting.

08/21/20New boards added: /vrpg/, /vmg/, /vst/ and /vm/
05/04/17New trial board added: /bant/ - International/Random
10/04/16New board for 4chan Pass users: /vip/ - Very Important Posts
[Hide] [Show All]


🎉 Happy Birthday 4chan! 🎉


[Advertise on 4chan]


File: co2fax.jpg (77 KB, 528x704)
77 KB JPG
So these people were migrating to another world on a colony ship. To power that ship, they compressed their planet into a "quasar".
Instead of calling it "The Engine Room" they call it "The Placenta"
>>
>>4101824
and then they all went into deep sleep without checking first if the ship was going anywhere.
>>
>>4101824
wew really? i had this in my backlog
>>
>>4101841
It's a sequel to a game that was only released in japan (at the time). I'm not sure about now. And it did a really poor job recapping the plot.

Their star was unstable and turning into a Red Giant. So they build this Colony Ship "Soreil", I think it's transliteration of "So Real" or "Surreal". They sent out an expedition team to find a new world. They weren't meant to drift in space, they were meant to teleport, using the energy of their unbirthed star.

There was also a faction that wanted to use energy to stabilize the star. To make a long story longer, it wasn't even their original planet. They had teleported there from somewhere else, by Isekai-ing a "higher dimensional" being.
They Isekai'd another girl to do this again, so they could spare their energy to "give back" in a sense.

But the first Isekai girl was like "OR, you use the energy to send us back home!"
>>
>>4101944
So 5000 years of stasis later. These "factions" are basically just 2 or 3 NPCs anyways. When they show a crowd of people they had to duplicate the same 4 character models. It's low budget.

The English version translated the star's name to "Bezel"; but I think it was meant to be "Bizarre". Get it? Bizarre and Surreal.

The original native inhabitants of the planet were fairy-like creatures called "Genome". They got compressed into the quasar along with the planet.
"Geno-cide" *ba-dum-dum-tsss*

It get's really confusing. Their spiritual bodies could be extracted from the quasar and put in new artificial bodies called "Sharl" "shaaru"
I believe it was meant to be "Char" which is a French for "Tank" or "Chariot" or "Parade Float".
But it could also have the sense of "charred" sacrificial ashes.

And because the game was so bad at recapping the plot of the first game. It doesn't communicate the sense of betrayal or resentment these creatures have towards the humans. They're in limbo, because their energy wasn't used to fix the sun, or teleport the humans to a new world.
Then they kind of do a Matrix thing, realizing they could use the humans for energy instead.
>>
>>4101944
Also (you), the player, get contacted through your console and given robot body to control.
I want to eat Ion.
>>
File: Ion.jpg (197 KB, 1160x1000)
197 KB JPG
>>4101993
I think I legitimately fell in love with Ion during the course of the game. It was intentional on the part of Gust, and they did a damn good job.
>>
>>4102002
mfw ciel no surge gets remade and it's just AI chat just like Ryza and Sophie
>>
>>4102002
Kakuma Ai is a great VA
>>
>>4101944
>>4101973
>>4101824

Garbage summary from someone who didn't play Ciel nosurge and is making up stupid etimologies for things they don't understand
>>
File: mana.jpg (327 KB, 1280x720)
327 KB JPG
We could say the localization butchered the whole "Dimensional Axis" thing. But the fact is, while they talk about "Oversight", and how Nero and Ion are supposed to have it, and perform an "Axis Shift", we don't actually see it. So there's nothing to understand.

The concept itself is carried over from the canceled Chronos Materia game. Which was more of an Atelier game for the PSVita, practically Atelier Iris 4 if we're being honest. Gust was marketing it as a new IP that was (allegedly) comparable to Radiant Historia.

I think the Atelier games set in "Arland" came very close to connecting to the Ar Tonelico universe. Especially after Lulua. But it was like they swerved at the last minute to avoid a collision and crashed into a ditch.

Instead of Ra Ciela tech, they branded it "Galaxen".
Instead of "Administrators" they went with "Operators"
>>
>>4102691
Calling you "stupid" would be an insult to idiots, schizo
>>
File: genometrics.jpg (80 KB, 720x405)
80 KB JPG
>>4102691
The idea of "Oversight" is pretty simple. It's like solving a maze with a bird's eye view.

Nero, Ion, and Players 1(Earthes) & 2(Prim) are higher dimensional beings. They can use Oversight, but not from the dimension they're in. They're inside a 2D maze. They need a lift by "chaining" with a Genom or Tron so they can "look down".

I believe the Genometrics screen is a kind of "oversight". But the game isn't clear about what you're looking at. It's a kind of personality map. Although you don't actually use it to navigate anything.
Conceptually, this is how Humans and Sharl could "improve" their souls.
When you're in Genometrics and you are presented with choices, this grid appears and sometimes show how a character's "personality" will shift.
>>
File: ArNosurgeTube.jpg (22 KB, 360x203)
22 KB JPG
The other thing that's not explicitly stated is how the planes of reality are stacked. In English, they use the word "Dive" which has the connotations of going in, down, or deeper.
As if dreams, emotions, and the mental plane are lower than than the physical plane.
But it's generally agreed that this game's universe is mostly inspired by Hindu/Buddhist values, where the physical is shaped by the mental somehow. And there are higher planes with Karmic and Causal influences on reality.
All of that goes mostly unspoken.

The player's connection to the world is supposed to be through the Ar Nosurge tube. We can switch "channels" between Earthes and Delta. However we lose our connection to Delta when he is captured by the Sharl and placed in the "Flask Sea" with a bunch of other humans to have their souls washed clean.
So what does that mean?
Because when the game started, we were in Delta's dream. Then we switched to Ion's soulspace, before helping her "wake up". It stands to reason that we should have done the same for Delta while he was in the flask sea.
>>
>>4104104
I'm pretty sure they were going for a Neon Genesis Evangelion reference.
Where the "Flask Sea" was like the LCL Sea after the whole Human Instrumentality project thing removed the "barriers" or AT fields or whatever, turning them into orange juice.

Basically. The Ar Nosurge tube couldn't lock on and connect with Delta in the flask sea. Because "Delta" as an individual didn't exist.
>>
>>4101944
>>4101973
>>4102691
>>4104098
>>4104104
You have acquired my attention.
>>
>>4101944
>So they build this Colony Ship "Soreil", I think it's transliteration of "So Real" or "Surreal".
Soleil is French for sun.
>>
>>4114779
Or "sunny", possibly in the sense of "happy".
There's a bajillion products called "soleil" because they literally want to sell you sunshine in a bottle. Most of them are feminine products. Because when you're a bitch that makes everyone miserable, they need to cover up that shit up with makeup and lies.
"I'm so happy my uterus is shedding once again because I didn't get pregnant. I'm bipolar. Didn't you hear? Murder is a mood disorder now. "

A synonym for sunny and happy is "gay". How many men want to be "gay"? Exactly.

Now, naming your Space Colony ship "Sun" in honor of your dying sun, makes some sense. But then why not call it Solaire? What's that? Solaire is gay too?
>>
File: Praise the sun.png (178 KB, 395x484)
178 KB PNG
>Praise the Sun
>>
>>4115122
Jesse what the fuck are you talking about?
>>
>>4115142
This guy is a crazy schizo who's always spouting nonsense garbage
>>
>>4115157
Return to whichever shithole you came from.
>>
>>4115164
Go back to whatever asylum you escaped from
>>
>>4115479
Talk about video games or kill yourself, newfag.
>>
>>4115554
Do it first then. Not only you're failing to do what you demand others to do, you're also abeting a schizo
>>
>>4116073
>condemning anybody for talking about video games on a video game board
Kill yourself, off-topic nigger newfag bitch.
>>
>>4116864
Telling others to kill themselves is not "talking about video games", you trisomic mongoloid
>>
What a waste of a thread.
>>
>>4102045
You've got a really good taste
>>
>>4101824
I don't give a shit about the nonsense babble they called a story but the music fucking owns

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mObp9qfDDuE



[Advertise on 4chan]

Delete Post: [File Only] Style:
[Disable Mobile View / Use Desktop Site]

[Enable Mobile View / Use Mobile Site]

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.