what was his fucking problem?
Refusal to repent before God and ask for forgiveness.
>>4133373This, God is literally real in WoD and he REFUSES after forever to repent. He's in a hell of his own making
>>4133373>>4133624god started it
>>4133370He was a failed subhuman troglodyte, and seethed so much about God and Reality rightly hating him for his subhumanness, that he became a public safety risk. If he was born in 2026, he’d be posting on here or on /vp/, since he’d be pacified by Talmudic video games and DoorDash.
>>4134606God was making a move
>>4133370No problem. He's learning to forgive himself. Learning how to let go and move on. Learning how to live without his brother. Learning how to live without feeling God's light. Learning to be happy.What's wrong with trying to be happy?
>>4135084He can literally just say sorry
>>4135130How can God forgive him if he can't forgive himself?
>>4135132True and that means that he has a problem
>>4135152I think you have a problem with him not having a problem. That kind of attitude could get your skull caved in with a rock.
>>4135157>That kind of attitude could get your skull caved in with a rockThat causes a lot of problems actually
>>4135157>a rock>he doesn't known
>>4133373>>4133624Isn't God in WoD just a computer program?
>this guy>cursed by GodNah, it's actually me. GOD FUCKING FORBID you happen to be a neurotypical introvert. Can't deal with inane normie babble. Can't deal with inane autist babble (this thread). Just kill me.
>>4135270That's Chronicles of Darkness (CoD / nWoD). In World of Darkness (WoD / oWoD), God is the actual G-O-D who decided to become absent from His creation while waiting for Caine to apologize for murdering Abel. WoD is mostly a deist existence, with other aspects from other splats emerging because of God's absence.
>>4133370>originator of undead monsters>Caine himself was never an undead
>>4135501>Source>The Book of Trust me Bro (Sabbat Bible)You listen to youtube videos where Joshua Graham weighs in on modern politics, dont you?
>>4138560what the fuck does this even mean? amerigolem are insane
>>4138569The primary source most people use when trying to defend the idea that Caine was actually cursed by G-O-D in Vampire the Masquerade is the Book of Nod, a "collection of ancient texts" compiled by two mary-sue's and a vampire giga-tranny who ripped his dick off before it was cool, whose combined efforts in library scouring, burglary, tourism and something approximating archeology slapped together the most modern edition of a particularly strange text whose purpose seems to be convincing vampires that G-O-D is real, that he hates them and that the only two worthy "paths" in life is to either be as evil as possible for as long as possible or be a trained behavior breaking softboy until G-O-D forgives you while also letting you live.Every other attempt at compiling the story of the origin of vampires has been either a pretty obvious attempt at propaganda planted in Places that have Names or long-winded gibberish earnestly produced by those vampires who have kind of gone insane in their "pursuit of history".Here is the thing.Vampires are the worlds most sociopathic creatures fucking conceivable. If you grew up with a shitty mother who would to make you feel guilty for being abused to justify heaping more abuse onto you, then you can imagine it happening again but as an adult except this time the abusive mother is the vampire who murdered you and turned you into a vampire, and the abuse will last forever. It is tradition that you are to be so thoroughly abused that you don't even get to leave the care of your abusive, manipulative murderous vampire parent until several decades after they have murdered you.Every single vampire who has left the care of their vampire parent went through this and lives in a world where this is completely fucking normal.Now imagine those giga-sociopaths who exist in a world where abusive social conditioning is normal and mandatory writing anything about an authority figure like G-O-D that isn't actually just propaganda.
>>4138575i knew what the book part of the post was referring to, also i don't read any of your essays after the first few words so don't bother
>>4138569>>4138575Part 2>Wod is mostly a deist existenceLet's examine this from the lens of the Vampire the Masquerade gameline>Do most vampires believe in God?Probably not, nor do they seem to have reason to. Otherwise the very eldest of them (The ones who have the best access to knowledge that isn't tainted by the convenient lies of later generations) would be seen to be actively engaging in some sort of Deist thought. Vampires are immortal and many of the very oldest are very curious about what happens after we die.>Do the vampires that specialize in the afterlife believe in God?Absolutely not. They talk to dead people rather often and most of those dead people speak of an afterlife that is a warped and incredibly depressing version of our mundane world. (Other Splats support this and even allow you to engage with the "Shadowlands" but that is not the point I am trying to argue here)>Do the vampires even believe in intelligent designPerhaps on a personal level, but there is no widely held cultural idea of a God outside of what they came into contact with as mortals. The eldest among them regularly twist mortal ideas of creation to their own ends. You will not BELIEVE just how many Settite, Tzimitce and Lasombra characters reference twisting of mortal ideas and ideals into something useful to them.>Does discussion of what the Vampires of the setting believe actually hold merit when the gamebooks themselves reference the beginning of the in-world history along the same lines as Christian-Judeo traditions.Ask yourself this. Do the Vampires in Vampire the Masquerade have the straight dope on reality in the same way the player reading a gamebook does?When those Vampires who do not actually have an objective view on their own history make an in-universe book written by in-universe mary-sue's who did in-universe research, is that book as objective as what the player reads when they are reading the actual physical gamebook?
>>4138577This isn't for you anymore you no games little shit, this is for other people with active attention spans who like discussing Role Playing Games hosted on a Video Game platform
>>4138569>>4138575>>4138579Part 3The purpose of the Book of Nod is to sell. Game masters buy the book to derive inspiration for cool things to put into their VtM game, at least on the tabletop. It does that job pretty well, it is a very well written book that I have actually purchased and read that book. I even quoted it from memory when I made the filename for the last post.In the game Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines, the single best piece of evidence that the cab driver is Caine is in the game files themselves.But from the perspective of the player character, he is just a cab driver. Even the Malkavian playthrough only concretely tells you the player that this vampire has something going on that gives the player character the heebie jeebies. Something that can equally be accomplished by any other vampire disciplines and their permutations as Malkavian madness is something that can be and has been manipulated by other vampires before. Including by other MalkaviansWhat I HATE is that because CAINE is A REAL ENTITY in Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines the VIDEO GAME and that the Book of Nod is also a REAL BOOK in-universe and that the Book of Nod, which features CAINE from Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines, says that G-O-D is real and hates vampires, then the only real way to play Vampire the Masquerade game is with the understanding that Vampire the Masquerade is some sort of Christian morality play where the real tragedy is the way vampires and by extension humans are straying so far from G-O-D's light and have been for such a long time and especially now that the WEST is so degenerate and blah blah blah.Something that people who don't play Vampire the Masquerade do is INSIST that it is Christian media because it uses the beautiful tapestry that is Jewish mythology and Christian belief as inspiration.But it is actually way more than that if you actually care to do more than a surface level examination the surface level facts of the franchise.
>>4138603>the only real way to play Vampire the Masquerade game is with the understanding that Vampire the Masquerade is some sort of Christian morality play where the real tragedy is the way vampires and by extension humans are straying so far from G-O-D's lightThis, but unironically
>>4138612You say that because you haven't played the video games, played the tabletop games, read any of the books, engaged with the community of people who actually enjoy the franchise, read a vampire novel, studied deist philosophy where real people discussed the possibility of Vampirism in an intellectually created world, thought critically of anything in your life or held a woman in your arms.I don't think you are a person, actually, but on the off chance that you are a living human that shits, eats and occasionally enjoy things the first big list of things you are will most likely describe you.
Writing something called the Book of your Mom, but it's just a 2,000 page tome where ever page seems to be scrawled on to near complete blackness with the names of every man who has made your mother a happy woman for a couple of minutes.A name listed in the Book of your Mother will be that of Caine from Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines, making it CANON to a Christian morality play that there is proof that your Mother has had passionate sex with literal hundreds of thousands of men.
>>4138623Posts like this are always fascinating to me. You look upon a Rorschach ink blot, and what you see is seething ugliness.
