Roadmap revealed>One last major update of 2025, including allied bot support for skirmish>1st DLC will be free and coming early on 2026. Full reveal on December 9th>will add a new "allied" country, which will be available to the US side as a spec in multiplayer (likely the Baltic units from singleplayer)>new environment and maps planned for later 2026, released for free alongside the listed paid DLCs>full expansion for 2027 with a new singleplayer campaign and a new faction
>>2261396I really enjoyed this but haven't played since the anticheat
The Q&A after the reveal was a whole lot of nothing but basically>team has more than doubled in size since launch, they had to wait to get sales numbers before they could justify the payroll expense>They don't want to introduce new multiplayer modes for fear of splitting queues>support for a 3v3 mode is being considered but the matchmaking implementation is undecided>singleplayer content/features a big priority now because their metrics showed that the vast majority of customers did all the SP stuff and then immediately quit.>they're not particularly concerned with the drop in active players because launch numbers were so good, they believe they can gradually bring players back with new content, which is the main focus of 2026.>multiplayer balance is also a major priority. When the game launched they had no tools set up to track multiplayer metrics and their early patches reflected this. Now they have better tools in place and a data-driven approach>their metrics show that after the latest balance patch, the winrates between US and Russia essentially flipped and they're looking into that>they gave up on weekly news posts because the community was being mean to them>there's another slitherine live event on the 8th/9th (timezone depending) that will reveal the content of the FreeLC coming early next year.That's about it.Overall meh. There isn't much here we weren't already told and for the most part the meat and potatoes are all still far off "we're working on it but can't give a concrete timeframe" like they've been promising since launch.
Player dropped off because they were doing jack shit and the game runs like shit. Also it will never sustain an active community until it has spec/replay. Why they launched a competitive MP game without it is pure insanity.>>they gave up on weekly news posts because the community was being mean to themMaybe if they actually delivered people wouldn't be mean to them. It's been a whole pattern of they promise a thing, they do it twice, late, make incredulous excuses as to why and quietly never do it again.
The only thing i find interesting about this game is how negative reviews changed from English to Russian after after the nerf
I'm just frustrated with how laughably badly the devs dropped the launch.Still playing the game, but it's more a case of 'there is no equivalent' outside of Eugen, and I'd take a pallet of Broken Arrow jank over a drop of Eugen's French autism.
>>2261558>they gave up on weekly news posts because the community was being mean to themkek
>>2261778I came expecting slavjank and slavjank is what I've gotten. I'm just glad they plan to keep the game alive, the last slavjank multiplayer I jumped on was Men of War 2 and that barely lasted 2 months.I genuinely feel for all the people expecting a polished, professional product because they fell for the marketing.
I like what they did to weapon and loadout options to units and deck having 2 specializations compares to Wargame series.
>Not a single map planned for all of 2026
>>2261396>USA Allied SpecGermany? We had Boxers and Leopards in the campaign.>Russia specProbably based on units that are present in the files but not used, and if I remember correctly, TOS-2 is one of them.>USA specSimilar case as before, unused units, but Martine/Navy themed.>Russia Allied SpecChina, obviouslyThat fact that we had to wait several months for a roadmap is just pathetic and now it turns out we have to wait a whole year, probably even more, to get new maps and a new country.Thankfully, I have other games to play.
>>2263082>USA Allied SpecI think USA allied spec is going to be Baltics. They have more units.>Russia specRussia spec I assume is going to be some sort of internal forces themed. We've seen art for FSB units before and some vehicles like bulat or typhoons are unaccounted for, as well as things that were already in the game at one point or the other like tos2 and uragan. Though I'm not entirely sure how they are going to differentiate it from motorized in the "wheel based deck with MRLS support" department so maybe they are going to do something else with it.>USA specUSA deck is very obviously marines2/navy, there's many units that were originally meant to be in marines but they got split off because the deck was too big. Seals, super hornets, growler. It's been pretty much open secret since even before release that this is going to happen.>Russia Allied SpecI'm unsure what it could be because I'm pretty sure it's not China because>Faction DLC #1is going to be China and China is going to be a full faction with a China VS USA pacific campaign.
>>2263123Oh, right, I read it wrong. Faction DLC is definitely China, but the Russian ally may be Belarus, assuming it's some European country.
>>2263207What unique stuff Belarus even has besides some flavor of special forces and kgb
>>2263226There's just not a lot of eligible countries to be on the Russian side. Maybe Iran?
>>2262918They mentioned during the Q&A that there's some new maps set in a new environment coming sometime in 2026. It wasn't clear which DLC drop it would be coming with, but the maps themselves are obviously free. The hint they gave is that it's an environment "with lots of water"
>>2263207>>2263248North Korea maybe? Considering IRL events. Though they might want to keep that for a Chinese ally in the future.
My Guardian:>Eats every missile from the Tor, dies in 3 hitsMy Slamraam:>Misses 4/6 missiles, enemy Katran just leavesI am getting fed up with flare RNG
>>2261396>China coming>2027
Have they fixed the bomber k/d score bug yet?The game is almost unplayable with it.
>>2263840Where supplies were counting as deaths? That got hotfixed pretty fast
>we have to wait a year for China, and even longer after that until we get to see whatever the NATO faction is going to beI'm assuming "USA allied spec" is referring to the baltic nations which already have units and models in the game. I like the game but the developers are so slow.
>>2266944After China, Europe would obviously be #4. I'm just wondering if they'll give the Baltic Stooges access to the German Leopard 2A7s from the campaign or leave it tankless and keep those for Europe later.The Baltics in the campaign had a LOT of units, like 2-3 regular infantry squads per country and another few recon squads each plus their transports. That's going to be one hell of a crowded inf tab
>>2266958Euro's will prolly have 2A8's at this point, unless goym implodes before we reach that time
>>2266958>>2266989Yeah the game is willing to stretch what is a variant and what a unit card in a different spec so they could still get tanks. Or they could be something like russian moto deck that has 0 veh points.
this franchise is a full blown scamgame is already dead and their talking about releasing content in 2027...
>>2266944they're not slowthey're biding their time to be able to charge infinite DLCs
>>2271328PLA release=hire infinty chinese to play your game for 3 months
>>2271564I guarantee you the PLA DLC is going to get the game banned in China.
>>2272170It's a Russian game, under close scrutiny to not Tarnish The Reputation of the Real Russian Army (currently sending another wave of ex-convicts into another minefield, to the horror and joy of the orbiting drones), why would it be banned in choinaThe accompanying campaign would have to paint an extremely positive light of them, so we'll probably get some slop about China saving the West or something from itself, and they'll be filthy overpowered at launch. But that's a year from now, and by then there's by the metrics going to be about twenty people left playing.
This game competes for most retarded playerbase. Any conversations I've seen regarding any balance entirely revolves around guys cheering for their team no matter what. Is it really so uncommon to have played both factions equally?Watching the player count drop so dramatically and all anyone has to say is how happy they are the other faction's ____ got nerfed.
Imagine if this game dies while Eugen continues to survive like a cockroach
Did they agree than having working cheats in RTS is embarrassing?
>>2272921Not hard to survive when you use AI slop to make content for you.
>>2272894Everyone had been constantly flagging balance issues and systematic Russian bias since the first beta and the devs ignored it. By the time they were forced to acknowledge their mistake, most of the same people had realized the devs were ziggers and moved on, leaving only tankies and ziggers looking for a neosoviet power fantasy still playing. Then they nerfed their power fantasy.Amateur devs always fail to understand that no player is just going to sit around for 40 minutes gleefully being a baby seal for someone else to club, and by the time they move to fix anything most people have already fucked off
>>2272980>no player is just going to sit around for 40 minutes gleefully being a baby sealIt kept pissing me off when they kept sticking their heads in the sand, saying "W-we have s-so many catch-up mechanics!!!"Okay, so you get more income when you lose phase points. Great, my units are still dead, his are still alive, he now has position, initiative and momentum on me. If you get your ass whooped by the mid-point of phase 2 and lose your position, there's literally nothing you can do but abandon your area and shift to playing support for teammates that have kept ahold of their positions.
>>2272980Also rampant cheating because they built a competitive multiplayer game on trusting the client and not doing any sanity checks so if chinksect modified his game to say his tanks are zooming around at the speed of sound and instantly killing everything that's what happened for everyone else. Not to mention subtler cheats like infinite ammo or manipulating hit chances.Even worse even without abusing it or even without any ill intent the spaghetti netcode is extremely latency sensitive and playing against cyrillic or chinese names will turn the game into a desync mess when none of your shots will ever hit making everyone paranoid and resentful.The extremely retarded ways the game is written also means then game has no replays and won't until the rewrite the whole fucking thing and how the fuck do you expect to have tournaments or jewtubers making videos on it.
2 Coastal 2 Furious
no single player saving at all
>>2272930Indirectly yes, they've committed to moving everything they possibly can server-side, as well as implementing Easy Anti-Cheat and having one of the devs only taking care of reports. Cheating is mostly gone now, and beyond 1500 ELO effectively extinctIf only US stealth was nerfed by .25 or .5 and 100mm+ guns dealt more dmg across the board, the game would be in a pretty good state. Shame it didn't launch like this
>>2278490>Easy Anti-CheatI really went my whole life not installing this shit and don't see myself starting now :(
>Baltic spec dlc announced>dead thread
>>2290087I guess it's nice to get free shit but they didn't really reveal enough to get me excited for it.How does it play, what gameplay does it bring to the table? All we know is "over 20 new infantry"
>>2290167If Steel Balalaika is gonna base the specialization on real life Baltic Militaries, its gonna a mech inf. specilization with low vehicle availability, but high tech and highly trained infantry + National guard reservist spam
>>2290555Most of the baltic stuff is already in the game in singleplayer and you can spawn their units in the Editor. There is large squad reservist slop that ride in M113s and then like 5 flavours of generic mechanized infantry with generic loadouts, a special forces recon squad and a few Javelin teams. They might tweak the numbers for balance but I doubt that they'll change the loadouts all that much from SP.For Vehicles there's a bunch of different variants of G-Wagen (including a manpads one that's quite silly), the leopards and all the other stuff teased in the trailer. I imagine the stats of the vehicles will change a lot, because the Leopards were basically just SepV2 stat clones but priced way cheaper.
regarding the units in the editor
>>2290087well, the first 3months of the game the russians were OP, so all US enjoyers left. now, since the US is OP, the russian enjoyers are leaving.
>>2291708Goodall single-faction subhumans deserve to suffer for being bad and stupid
>>2263082>>Russia Allied Spec>China, obviouslyWagner + prison "volunteers" + norks or nothing
>>2291813Wagner is a no no because then mirror matches won't be halal anymore
>>2290167>>2291080>>2291099I imagine the Vilkas will be on-par with the Strykers fielding Javelins (SPIKE-ER) but with only a single load of missiles (2), and an autocannon as a generic choice instead of the specialist Stryker RCV. Which can be crazy strong on more open maps.The CV9030 as a generic heavy autocannon IFV will also be very popular, if it can get through tank sides and has the damage to mop up BMPs relatively quickly. I think it's going to be one of the specs with low availability of APS, though. I doubt it'll be available on much more than the Leo2A8, as their gimmick will be heavy firepower, low survivability. SPIKE-ERs might also have the gimmick of being the equivalent of top-tier Javelins (the Ranger Javelin ones, with 1500m range) but low ammo. What I'm curious about is what their helo and plane tab will look like.
>>2291918I'd hazard to guess the plane tab will be 500pts like mech and the heli tab will be empty.
Reminder that we have a /wsg/ trooncord to organize games, and we play regularly. Sometimes we even get a full stack!Currently mostly playing ziggers for the queue times, but factions are more of a day-by-day chosen by the feng shuihttps://discord.gg/5pT2sXDK
So if I've got this straight>Leo 2s with APS, but likely low availability and no cheapo tanks to pad it out>CV90s with heavy autocannon, basically Dragoon with Bradley armour (this thing is going to be spammed to high hell)>Vilkas as a wheeled APC with a light autocannon and javelin-at-home, probably similar to the BTR-82 in practice>Land Rover and G-Wagens as light transports (likely for Recon), with the Wagen having ATGM and MANPAD loadouts>NASAMs, which will likely have the same role as the redesigned SLAMRAAM as heavy-SHORAD>No long range air defense (unless they make the NASAMs into a NATO BUK)>Pzh-2000 for artillery, probably a statclone of the vanilla Paladin>presumably all the boring stuff like mortars, SHORAD etc. not shown>At least 20 infantry and special forces squads split between inf and recon, which will presumably have all new loadouts compared to SP, including a lot of Javelin-like ATGMs>no helicopters mentioned but a handful of transport helis are shown in the official art, so it will likely at least have a few old hueys and blackhawks>only plane revealed is the Albatros, an ancient subsonic memeplaneIn practice it sounds a lot like Stryker on the ground, just without Stryker's big air tab. I can't help but suspect this is going to replace Stryker's place in the meta depending on how the full spec looks when it's revealed. I can guarantee you that CV90s will become the single most-purchased US vehicle once it comes out and is probably going to get its price nerfed continuously.What do we think the tab point distribution is going to look like? I'm expecting 3000 Infantry points like RU Mech since obviously the mechanized infantry is the main focus of the spec, but with a small air and heli tab all those points have to go somewhere, and if Leopards have low availability how are they going to justify a big tank tab?
>>2292069Also I just double checked:The version of the CV90 used in game is Estonia's CV9035 with a Bushmaster 3. The campaign version has the same base armour as Bradleys and AMPVs and the same speed as the base Bradley (the real-world CV90 is faster so that's probably a copypasta and not the intended speed). It has cargo for a 7-man squad while the real world version is 8-9 so the in game stat might change. The Bushmaster 3 is a statclone of the Bushmaster 2 on the Dragoon and AMPV, but with .25 more damage on the AP round and .5 more damage on the Incendiary. In practice, this is basically an autocannon AMPV with less cargo space so we'll have to see how the price is balanced. The AMPV is weak right now basically just because the price is so high.The camoagn version obviously has no upgrade options since it's an NPC vehicle but it will presumably have armour upgrades bringing it up to 16hp and 120/400 armour like all the other heavy IFVs.Only Estonia operates the CV90 IRL so they'll probably limit its availability by tying it to a single Estonian mechanized squad in the inf tab. If they keep it at 7 seats it's going to be extremely awkward since there are no other 7-man US squads, but I assume 7 was just a placeholder for campaign.
>>2292069I think the CV9030 will be balanced due to its troop compartment only seating 7, with some dedicated kinda-shit infantry that can take it, limiting its spammability. Like how Troopers are the limiting factor on how many Strykers you can take, as a 90-point unit tax for the IFV being pretty fucking steep.I think the air tab will have some Hornets and F16s, maybe some export F35s. Helos and anemic air will be its weakness.
>>2292143I don't think the Baltics even have an air force. But in-game it serves no purpose giving them one since you can just pair the spec with any of the other US specs for their respective air assets. There'd be absolutely nothing new in an imaginary Baltic air fleet.
