You guys think this game is gonna be an FF6 style game with an ensemble cast or will it continue the Fire Emblem tradition of being shackled to decades long tropes?
I hope atleast the porn will be good
It will 100% be shackled with decades long tropes, but as long as it pulls back on Reclass Emblem being the standard I'm going to like it.
i think it will continue the Fire Emblem tradition of sucking ass
>>2277215
Why no attractive female characters?
>>2277385>implying
>>2276712We should make a bingo chart>Really clumsy>Really likes sweets>Really dumb>Really doesn't know how to socialise>Really likes X character>Really shy>Really dramatic>Really edgy>Really a slut>Really can't stand X character
>>2277990Add a "but actually..." to half of those and we'll have ourselves a Fire Emblem cast!
>>2277385Are you gay? There's 4 in the OP pic
>>2276712I'm not speculating and I'm not watching any previews. Gonna be as blind as can be.>>2278027kek
>>2277215Yeah, Pull back on Reclass emblem and all the side garbage that come with it and we might have a half decent game for the first time in a decade.
>>2277990I really think most of this shit is to FE's detriment.
The most important part of being a fire emblem fan is hating fire emblem
>>2276712>Blue haired guy has some special power>edgy one can warp because ???Shit
>>2282472I don't think it's that big a deal. Archetypes and character gimmicks aren't a problem as long as they're written and handled well.
>>2282630Why do people ship her with Eliwood?
>>2283531The game pushes them in the plot unfortunately, despite how boring of a character Ninian is. Me personally, I like her with Fiora better.
>>2284312*Himholy unintentional Yuri
>>2284312Ninian is boring, Eliwood is boring, it's a match made in heaven.
>>2284323Ninian has no character. Eliwood is boring. He deserves someone who is also boring. Not a pliant sex doll.
>>2283531Gee, anon, that's a tough one. I wonder why that could be?>>2286349Ninian has character, don't act dumb. It's just not terribly exciting.
Is the bald Danish dude's romhack any good or what do we think?
>>2289872I've seen exactly enough of the first and enough shilling of both to dismiss them as dogshit.
>>2289872Honestly the first one (as it is, not whatever the DE is going to be) is around on par with mid tier romhacks, but has better presentation and aesthetics than them.The second one is ironically one of the better ones I've played, but does suffer from typical prequel issues, like not being a good stand alone game, kinda knowing how it's going to play out, and still hilariously missing up House Ring's lore.With that said I feel like the two games are easier sell's than something like Hag in White, which as a pure gameplay and story narrative, are much better, but Hag in White also has extremely ugly characters, fags galore, unironic trannies, and on top of not really being a hard game. So I guess the real question is, are these two games fantastic on their own? ehhhhhh, they're alright. Do they look better(key word, look better) than what's surrounding them? Hell yeah they do. Are they must play games? Not at all no. Would I rather play them than half the shit on FEU? Sadly yes.In my opinion if your a gameplay fag that loves quirkly characters and a bad story that tries to be serious, like Engage, you'll enjoy his game, otherwise you can take them or leave them, like most rom hacks.
What would an FE game without all it's myriad tropes look like anyway?
I got softlocked in Thracia 776. Fuck my chudcel life.
>>2301370>getting softlocked in the meme gamei'd kill myself honestly
>>2282630They open their mouth once and you know everything about them. Its boring.
>>2301853>as long as they're written and handled well.
>>2301370Is she a single mother here? Lol
>>2283531she's the canon option that gets all the support from is
>>2303274>she's the canon option that gets all the support from isI hate when companies do this. Why make something virtually canon when other options exist in the fucking game?
Did Erika ever have romantic feelings for Lyon?
>>2312350nah, at most they were friends, but Lyon didn't like being friendzoned.
>>2312350It could have been. Maybe if they had more time, but it was never explicitly stated.
Which game would benefit the most from a Sequel or a trilogy ending?
>>2320165A sequel to Awakening who will be Futur past dlc with Morgan as the new avatar.Awakening would be the original timeline story with a bad ending so no time travel from Naga.For a Trilogy, a game who will be the sequel to Gaiden and Fe 3 book 2.A war between Akaneia and Valentia.
I can be happy that Fire Emblem appreciators are eating well, but I am constantly bitter that Intelligent completely abandoned the Wars series.
>>2320485>Fire Emblem appreciators are eating well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqUW8tjuhzUHope the music actually gets used as a battle theme in the game proper
>>2312350I want to smell Eirika's hair
>>2320583I hope we get an early final fantasy tier soundtrack. We need someone based, like Uematsu
>>2277215Same, honestly sick of every character can be every class I want the village archer to only be a sniper or bow knight
I had a Three Houses dream last night. Which is odd, I haven't thought about Three Houses much lately at all, so I'm posting it here before I forget it all. It's sappy fanfic nonsense, though, so sorry about that. Dimitri and Edelgard are sharing a quiet moment alone during that mid-part-1 party I forget the context of. Out on a bench in the middle of the night. I think there was some shenanigans to get them there, there'd have to be, but they're there now so whatever. Edelgard's cagey and stand-offish, while Dimitri's trying to make small talk and pretend he's a normal person, as you do. He brings up their time as kids, brings up the dagger, and Edelgard get's that AM realization now instead. It devastates her. Turning towards him in completely unguarded shock, then turning away in blatant misery. Emotional mask got shook hard.>...why? Why does it have to be you? Why do I only learn this now, when...when it's too late. It's far too late...too cruel...this is too cruel...Dimitri, still pretending to be a good boy, reaches for her haaaand and takes it, which shocks her all over again. Calls her El, asks if she wants to talk about it. Kinda tripping into all the flags. After a long moment she admits she does, but can't. It'd be too dangerous, they could become enemies on the spot. Her face is hidden, that camera trick where a character's bangs hide their expression, but she's clenching her teeth, squeezing her eyes shut, inner conflict apparent. Dimitri leans down and sneaks a peek and recognizes exactly what this is, trying to hold in and cover up deep emotional trauma. There's a shot of some rusty, grime-covered gears shifting a bit and turning a little. He makes some pledge that he won't just attack her or something, no matter what it is, it was pretty vague. Squeezes that hand. And against all her better judgement, Edelgard agrees and starts talking.
>>2323968Infuriatingly, that's about where I started to wake up and things got all disjointed. I know she tells him she's the Flame Emperor, which starts to make him flare up, but she quickly explains that it's an identity many people have used and she wasn't involved with Duscar. Throws in some promise that she's going to make those responsible for that pay, which calms him down. She explains what happened after they parted ways as kids, the experiments and deaths and the mysterious group running the empire, but that was even vaguer. There was some implication that Byleth had a hand in setting this meeting up, but that's almost certainly related to my own head-canon so whatever. And I fucking woke up before she got to the real good shit and about how she's about to start a war.I wonder if this could have worked out? Is this the route to a better ending? Probably not, it's definitely out of character, but...I dunno, maybe? Through the power of anime ham and questionable 3Hs writing? Maybe. I'll settle for maybe.
>>2323968Honestly this first part if you cleaned up the timeline could be a nice one shot fanfic on AO3.
>>2324082I could see it. I'd read it. Hell, I'd write it if I was better. I do occasionally write little greentext shit, as you can probably tell from having dreams like this, but I don't have the confidence in my Three Houses chops to actually write a fanfic. I'm a big proponent that things in Three Houses could have played out a lot better for all involved with just a few minor difference, even just in part 1's timeframe. A conversation here, some understanding there, if only these kids had opened up to each other just a little more. It's the big tragedy of the whole game; it didn't have to be this way.
>never tried playing the franchise before>told to play FE5, by recommendation of friend>figure out I can nonlethal takedown enemies for their weapons, pretty neat>save the village, use samurai bitch to kill boss, get a bonus chapter. sick>fight off a shitload of pirates, low on resources>get to boss>wait he doesnt even have a weapon>kidnap his ass and get him as a party member. holy shit lol>next level, use burly woodsmen to carry children safely back home>get holy texts and rings as rewards>the kids are gonna be alright.jpg>wait fuck, walked into a trap>start off in middle of jailbreak (kino)>keep fighting off waves of guards with improvised weapons from capturing them until everyone has something to fight with (absolute cinema)>get to the end, guard legion waiting for us>one of the guards hears what I did in the previous map and defects to our side>so much fucking hype, miracle run my way through the next couple of maps while getting more people to the cause>kept capturing people for gear since I get zero money so far>thief is pretty good, steals the magic tomes from wizards so they cant even cast spells lol>entire game is just getting by on the skin of my teeth while fighting impossible odds with interesting game mechanics spread throughout>find out really fun ways to break even the hardest of missions in 1 turn under certain conditions>enjoy the absolute shit out of this game>turns out none of the games are even remotely like thisI've never been more disappointed in a videogame franchise than now.
>>2325362>>never tried playing the franchise before>>told to play FE5, by recommendation of friendDude you got trolled, KEK this is one of the hardest games in the series
>>2325362Actually, I understand why you're disappointed. Your friend probably tried trolling you and inadverdantly made you actually enjoy it.Thracia's creator and the series' creator, Shouzo Kaga left after Thracia since it was an SNES game made in 2000 so it fucking bombed hard.He went off to Playstation and made a new series called Tear Ring Saga and Berwick Saga which are the real spiritual successors of Fire Emblem before he left so you might find a lot of what you're looking for in those games. They're for PS2 so you'll need a PS2 Emulator. I also want to let you know that Kaga released a new strategy game on Steam a few years back so you can try that as well:https://store.steampowered.com/app/694770/Vestaria_Saga_I_War_of_the_Scions/And the Sequel is here: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1811600/Vestaria_Saga_II_The_Sacred_Sword_of_Silvanister/Vesteria Saga 3 is currently in development but there's been no updates in a while. I think he's trying to remake the first one lmao but whatever.
>>2325362Yeah, sorry anon, but you actually started at the absolute top. I don't think they'll ever beat such a perfect storm, but some of their attempts have come close. If you haven't tried any of them yet, I would consider trying Path of Radiance, Fates Conquest route and Engage, as these are where I think they hit the next highest highs. PoR doesn't have capture but does retain the roguish feeling with weapon and staff stealing, and has good and fun side objectives. Fates has a capture system that allows you to use generic units if you want. Engage is just a very polished and balanced gameplay experience with good, challenging maps.
>>2325362at least you had fun
>>2325362>told to play FE5, by recommendation of friendYour friend is an asshole. Glad you enjoyed it, though. >OlwenGood taste too. Lady-knight best knight.
Which Fire Emblem world would be the best setting for a Final Fantasy game?
>>2325362Thracia was a flop because it released at the tall end of SNES life and the creator promptly left and burned his bridges like >>2325373 said and I support his recommendations. On my part, if you really want more Thracia, you can try romhacks. They're mostly GBA but there's also Super Thracia that adds a bunch of recruits and really inflated stats. The completed hacks are A Vestrian Tale and Bells of Byelen, which takes the main mechanics unique to Thracia like capturing, low stat caps and fatigue. There's also WIP project Knights of Leonster, that follows Xavier and his men of you want a fan side-story.
>>2276712So I finally went back and beat the last two paths in Three Hopes.>Azure GleamAG remains my favorite path, as does Dimitri as my favorite House leader. I do wish we got to see Boar Dimitri again, but I understand why not.Story was okay. I thought baby-Edelgard was kind of weird and I really dislike the Hegemon Edelgard tease when nothing came of it.Would have been an interesting twist to have that form pop up as early as it did, but for her to be stuck in that form while still controlling the Empire.>Scarlet BlazeSB I actually liked a bit more than Edelgard's story in Three Houses. Maybe because she is not working with those who slither in the dark in SB.I still think her logic towards the Central Church is flawed, but at least she is not so brain-dead as to actively work with the real bad guys this time.Although if she WAS still working with them, a cool twist could have been reviving Nemesis and the 10 Elites as allies for the final assault on the Central Church.>Golden WildfireGW was a bit of a step-down compared to Claude's story in Three Houses. Claude went from really just wanting answers to a having a hate-boner for the Central Church.While I appreciate a more darker take on him, like sacrificing Randolph or betraying the Empire, him crowning himself as King of the Federation just did not feel like Claude.The Kingdom is not Leicester's real enemy nor aggressor. A better plan would be allying with a crippled Kingdom, but making them detach from the Central Church.
>>2326089"Kind of weird" is a very diplomatic way of saying "incredibly fucked up." I think it's less mental regression and more mind control. Kaga's shadow is long, and that perpetual terrified expression doesn't lie.
>>2326089>SB I actually liked a bit more than Edelgard's story in Three HousesProbably because it was actually finished.
>>2325615Adding on top SGW's for romhacks with Thracia mechanics with them, but i did beta test for it so...>>2326089Hopes does elevate a lot of stuff in Houses in a really nice way, it's just kinda a shame that storyfags are filtered by musou games of all things, the genre isn't hard at all.
>>2328301It's less difficulty and more a lack of interest. And at least from what I've heard it didn't actually give me what I want, so whatever. You're right that it's inconvenient for a storyfag, though. Makes me feel half-baked.
>>2328301Agreed, they complemented each other well in my opinion
>>2325428I don't think FE settings are fantastical or absurd enough for FF. Not enough monsters, flying ships, crystal towers, magitech, random mysthical philosophical bullshit and so on, while focusing way too much on politics, logistics, history and geography. Like the usual FF feels more fairy tale like but also fused with a creation myth and an apocalyptic event while FE feels more like a literary war epic with some dragon slaying legends here and there and an historical account of jews getting expelled from Paris or Milan.That being said Magvel, Tellius, Ylisse/Valm (not Archanea/Valentia) and Elyos would probably suit a FF game better than the others.Now the reverse on the other hand, I think FF16 could work as a FE game (Ivalice too of course).
Hello nonniesI used 3 houses music for my tabletoppa game and found it quite goodis it worth playing? i had a friend say i wouldn't like itnever played a FE game before
>>2330052Shit bro I don't know what you like. But yeah 3 houses is pretty fun. Biggest problem it suffers from is its gimmick. Doing the first half 4 fucking times to play all routes is awful.
>>2330055Real, sorryI am a map gamer, I also enjoyed BG3 and DOS2 which I think are vaguely (?) in the lane, but no experience with FE and its mechanics. I hear it has a very good story but also simultaneously that it's like a high school anime. Can you relate it to something?
>>2330052>>2330058FE is a map/grid based strategy game where people have set movement points each turn and can attack once and you have a bunch of unit types and weapon types that counter others so there's a lot of depth and replayability. 3H is the best selling game in the series and I would say it's a good place to start with FE.
>>2330063>and I would say it's a good place to start with FE.I wouldn't. Too different. I'd say start with 7, 8, or 9.
>>2330058As the other anon said 3H has an attempt at life sim at a private military academy as it's main gimmick You get an in-game month to do various activities before your mandatory Story battle>wander the base and do activities like fishing and give gifts to raise affinity with the other students>train in the classroom for weapon proficiency/character xp>do extra/side battles It gets really tedious after the novelty wears off >>23300757 is the easiest to get into because of the Lyn chapters imo
Can someone post that list of FE romhacks that anons here recommend?
>>2335721It's a bit outdated, but most of them are still at least solid enough. Deity Device's author had a breakdown and took down the official download, but you can still find it. But honestly, if you're going for a story-first experience, try Dark Amulet.
>>2335721see >>2335805See also The Dark Amulet and it's sequel, The Shadow of Dawn. Highly recommend both, especially the first. Cerulean Crescent is also very good, if a little different, and I'm contractually obligated to plug Four Kings whenever that image is posted.
>>2335805Iron emblem was really fun. I was able to get all the way to the end properly iron manning it but died in the endgame.That final chapter is insane, you really need to have a strong army to get through it and I had just lost too many good units in the chapters leading up to it due to silly mistakes.
>>2335811>I'm contractually obligated to plug Four Kings whenever that image is postedI'm sorry for your situation. To be more honest, 4K is decent but not really ironmanable due to like 2/3 of the game has full deployment and how important most of the personal weapons are. The author makes the enemies use silvers and killers way to quickly and while you have your min-maxed guys to deal with them, the gameplay still is too cautious for my liking. The story is nothing special and full of assholes bickering, but at least some guys are funny assholes. Anyways, here's my Shelby.
>>2335811>>2335805Alright, thanks. I'm gonna put all of these in my R4 card since it comes with a file meant for Gameboy Advance Emulation.
>>2335819>not really ironmanableDebatable, but I don’t care about ironmans anyway. And it’s definitely more ironmanable than Dark Amulet and Shadow of Dawn, at any rate.>The author makes the enemies use silvers and killers way to quickly and while you have your min-maxed guys to deal with them, the gameplay still is too cautious for my liking.That’s fair, but I love it. Love the puzzle-like map design and min-maxed specialists, that’s my jam. >The story is nothing special and full of assholes bickering, but at least some guys are funny assholes.I like the cast, but can agree on the story being meh, particularly in the last third. I’ve seen worse, though. Golden Country comes to mind.
>>2336291The only thing I know about Golden Country is that the name sounds like peak Reddit dribble, there's a fuck ton of fags and trannies, and the final boss is some dude with numbers for a name.Hell that last part alone pretty much convinces me to never check it out.
>>2337270That's a stupid reason to play something. The hack's good, solid writing and gameplay, lots of really, really nice QoL stuff, but...I don't know, something about the story and cast just repels me. I cannot give myself a single shit about anything going on in this story or any of the characters involved in it, and I can't even tell you why. It's weird.
>>2337307A stupid reason not to play something, rather. I guess I've done similar stuff before, though.
>>2337307It is hard to surpass a product with extensive market research and huge marketing budget. Those reasons alone give the original content more perceived "legitimacy" than any story mods. That's why most successful mods were based on another popular story.
>>2337333What?
>>2337307>That's a stupid reason to play something.Don't forget where we are. You will see the same criticism for Hag in White and Souls of the Forrest. Anything loudly queer/progressive-looking will get pushback here as default.>>2337333>That's why most successful mods were based on another popular story.I guess The Last Promise had that one One Piece cameo so you technically have a sort of quarter of a point.
>>2337307I mean I don't give a single shit about the story or characters in any FE game since Awakening so that really isn't a rom hack problem in my case.With that said It's extremely rare for me to look at the cast of any of these rom hacks and for me to go "Yup, I need to play this">>2337410Since I've played Hag(because of my Boyfriend's request, can't refuse him entirely) I can safely say that Hag has some truly dreadful queer representation.Kyra/Hestia is awful, Hestia is every bad trans stereotype put together but it's trying to insist that it's not offensive or annoying, this character is the black face of a tranny character, even if Hestia wasn't trans their entire personality is clingy and annoying with love bombing, Kyra also is just boring which is another issue a lot of romhacks have with their lords.Blind Priest/Purple man is inoffensive but boring, Blind Priest is an alright enough character but Purple Man is an accessory without a real personality beyond "I love my boyfriend"Evil Blue Woman/Jane runs into a lot of the same issues of the above two, horrible, ugly designs, a rather toxic relationship that feels unhealthy, and Jane is super fucking boring as a character.Old Woman/Old Woman but married to the pope is extremely tone deaf of an last minute reveal that seems to brush under the rug that her son just fucking died protecting her, we also run into the issue of if you two loved eachother in the past, why the fuck did you two both have children?
>>2337789>Kyra/HestiaI agree that the author likes his characters to look uglier and Hestia being a blatant splice is the worst offender of that, but I didn't really find her that annoying, just a playable shoopkeeper that ends up flirting with the MC later on. Her being trans was a bit blunt, but Hag in general, is rather didactic, for lack of a better word, about intended themes.>Wulfric/TiresiasWulfric has some semblance of a backstory, but it's mostly just a pretext for why he bumped into Tiresias, so I'm in agreement. Inoffensive, occasionally cute guys, maybe a bit lacking in depth when Tiresias becomes somewhat important later on.>Deliah/JaneEvery ruler from the region is a giant asshole or was an asshole in the past, but Deliah having a genuine sweet spot for Jane (Her solo ending has her willingly rotting in prison, so her entire escape is down to Jane proposing that) puts her slightly above these two Arran/Samson dumbfucks mistreating their retainers in terms of player sympathy. It's more of a cartoon kind of logic, but I can see how it wasn't conceived as really toxic>Thyone/Spoiler I guessFirst, one of the late midgame reward houses has a guy sharing rumors about the pope's wife having an affair with the previous inquisitor, and since Pericles was in the running to become the next one with a daughter mature enough to fight, I simply assumed they met and started the affair well into their respective marriages. And like, medieval-ish marriages still expect you to pop out a kid no matter how gay you are, so whatever. And, secondly, Hag really hits you over the head that moving forward with memory of those you lost is vastly preferable to beating yourself over it or the bad things you possibly did, with Pericles, Nicaea, Glaucus's dad, Lorenzo and Kyra with both Pheme and her brother hitting similar character beats, like I mentioned above, Hag is really unsubtle about these things.
>>2337949The comment ended up too long, so I just wrote here that I like discussing romhacks and occasionally talking about the game's story, no matter how maligned the usual FE's plot is. So I should thank you for giving me an occasion to write with some effort and for giving a deeper critique than usual in those spaces.
>>2337957to be honest I've always felt people tend to exaggerate how bad FE plots are, none of them are anything to write home about but few are actual detriments to their respective games
>>2337789>I mean I don't give a single shit about the story or characters in any FE game since Awakening so that really isn't a rom hack problem in my case.I don't suffer from this. >With that said It's extremely rare for me to look at the cast of any of these rom hacks and for me to go "Yup, I need to play this"Oh, sure. Good writing and characters are a plus, and a necessity depending on how good the actual game is, but I don't think I've ever picked up an FE game or hack because of that. Maybe as part of the overall sell, but never that specifically.>>2337983Agreed. It's rarely the plot itself that's the issue and more the characters, writing, and presentation. Like, I like the plot of Awakening a lot, love that time travel and fight against fate stuff, but it's characters and writing are dogshit. Awakening bad. But on the other hand, I can recognize that the plot itself of FE7 is pretty bad, but I like the characters, how they all talk, and how it's presented, so FE7 good.
>>2337949That's fair even if i disagree, it's mostly me being upset that, as someone who isn't straight himself, that I didn't really enjoy any of the faggots in the rom beyond green and purple, who were just okay, inoffensive.>>2338023>>2337983That's pretty much how I view things as well, as far as Hag's plot it's...it has it's high points, but it has some real bad pacing issues (like how long it takes for the traitor subplot to conclude, the entire Margrave filler sections, or aspects that were missing in between scenes, biggest early example of this is that Phobos somehow is allowed to follow the group all the way into the Castle to rescue the hag after he sold her out, and it's only when the group is about to head on in is when ANYONE asks "alright what the fuck are you here?" When this is something that realistically speaking, should've been handled in a prior scene.)To tie this into official games, I can overlook how bad a plot or story is as long as i don't find the writing or the characters to get on my nerves, So I can agree with the Awakening and FE7 comparisons there.But tying this back to Hag, Hag had very few characters that I can say I honestly liked even on a surface level, outside of the Hag herself, Blind man, Pope Man, and Kairos(Spellsword guy?), at best I had the same opinion as I do with the average FE1 character, at worse I could not stand even looking at some of them, let alone reading their text, Then I have too many smaller nitpicks that add up like the Phobos thing I mentioned above.With that said I feel like the Traitor Subplot is on paper the second best thing about the rom, but it's execution is, again, dreadful in both gameplay and in narrative, It's introduced early on, Then nothing happens unless you get the bait unit killed, then instead of calling an emergency meeting to eject the traitor, it's put on the back burner until the traitor gets to strike again and almost get everyone killed. (1/2)
>>2338048(2/2) It makes the characters look really dumb and lack agency to actually address what should be a major problem until it's too late.Then we get into why it's badly handled from a gameplay perspective, Yoinking away two units without compensation or anything feels bad, more so if someone invested into both of them, which both of these units are designed as Bait to draw in unsuspecting players, an cute archer trainee who's retarded and a knight that doesn't look ugly that talks about justice with an amazingly high total growth of 385? Yeah people are going to take that bait and then if they don't fall in love with the story, they're going to hate losing their units and drop it.Lastly we get into the biggest issue involved with this, this twist only has proper emotional impact if a player used either of these two units, which is likely but not guaranteed, If someone doesn't, then they lose nothing, but it doesn't hit them because they didn't lose anything, so it's just...nothing in this circumstance.My personal experience with the entire twist was that I narrowed it down really quickly just from a game design meta standpoint by chapter 7-9 when I was given a 4th fucking armor knight and that tipped me off that 'Alright it's Soter because he's the most expendable dude here class wise" So I stopped giving him EXP, I stopped deploying him, and low and behold, I was right, not because of why the story said I was right, but because I looked at how the game was structured, This would be fine if it wasn't for that I still had to wait ten chapters for the pay off to something i already solved.In general I am just shocked at how nobody on the team seemed to have any obvious issues with what happened, I'm a play tester and if I was on that team I would've pointed out at the very least "give the player a pity gift or something so they won't get mad enough to drop it"
>>2337983I found it mostly used as a thought-terminating cliche by those who like the series entires mocked for their plot, like Fates and Engage (and to a lesser extent FE6, less bad, more bland as fuck), and a few that didn't grow out of the phrase where Cinema Sins-style nitpicking was the biggest shit in the world, who mostly hate on FE7. I'm also on the side of people who tolerate middling plots if the character writing is strong enough, so I like stuff like FE7 or indie FE-likes such as Dark Deity 2 or Gales of Nayeli (despite the latter doing the same bland "lord speaks to the advisor" stick as FE6 )>>2338048>>2338058From the gameplay perspective, yeah, losing two early-game units sucks, but it works just from the pure gut-punch experience. As you said, it can alienate some players, but hacks like TMGC can be even more brutal with parts of the playable cast. Pheme is a sucky bow trainee with spotty availability in a game with an archer lord and your first prepromote being a sniper (and also refunds a master seal if you turbo invested in her and potentially survives on NG+), and as your said Soter got enough tier 1 replacements with quality varying between good enough and cracked (Alonso is fucking stupid even after getting nerfed) not including the two secret generals you can get. They both get decent story spotlight and several base convserations so even if they get benched, them ending up dead/being a scumbag still can carry some emotional impact. On the "why didn't they call a meeting after the murder" point, just after it Barlowe gets kidnapped, so solving this mess takes a piority and, while I admit it approaches headcanon territory, with Apate initially suspecting Kyra's father figure as the traitor, any direct confrontation about it would strain their working relationship even faster than it happened in canon.
>>2338079Overall while the biggest things I liked was Apate and everything surrounding her, I can't really place it any higher than "eh it was alright" But I did feel like it was really obvious that it was not made for me, Would I consider it truly without merit? No, but once again I experienced another Rom hack that did not live up to the expectations that were told to me that it would've.It's not like my expectations are high, I like playing the original FE1, but this isn't a rom hack that I am going to revisit, Honestly can't name a single one I played that I loved from start to finish that came out in the past decade.
>>2338083Let me clarify that the biggest thing i generally felt while playing it was either "Oh the hag stuff is cool" "I don't care about anything else going on" and "these portraits make me want to vomit", an unfortunate mixture of the good, the bad, and the apathetic, most of the story falls flat to me because i just don't care about most of the characters.
>>2338079>and to a lesser extent FE6, less bad, more bland as fuckPreach it. >and a few that didn't grow out of the phrase where Cinema Sins-style nitpicking was the biggest shit in the world, who mostly hate on FE7....you know what, fuck it, I don't think the plot of FE7 is bad. That's just those nitpickers speaking through me. >Dark Deity 2I read that as Deity Device 2 and got excited for a second.
why does Garon in fates waste time conquering the ice tribe? nohr is already a crime riddled shithole with no sun that can barely grow groups but he goes out of his way to have his army trek through a blizzard to conquer worthless snow
>>2343347Lets just say the Fateswakening games did pay much attention to the story and more about the character archetypes that the game wanted in there.
impregnating lucina
>>2344266…with no survivors
>>2344266Based
>>2337357Why people hate her again?
>>2344607She is basically marth on ez mode in SSBU
>>2276712If you guys could make an official installment of the series what would it be about, how would you do it, why, when, and who would be the main character?
>>2344607Mostly because her route is half baked at best so everyone thinks she's retarded because she's working with the clearly evil cult.
>>2344607Started a war, working with the baddies, various /pol/shit, people being dumb.
>>2344607the girl herself has a lot of aggressive attitude traits that can easily rub people the wrong way.I wasn't on her wavelength at all so i somehow managed to get hit with every single downward arrow notification and the narrative was still trying to insist that we really liked each other, it kinda took me out of it lol.My favorite of these moments is either"I'm stressed, maybe I should relax and eat sweets""do it, it'd be cute""fuck you i'm not cute." (support decreased)Or"hey sensei remember my tragic past?""no because you told me to forget about it.""I DIDN'T MEAN IT LIKE THAT YOU IDIOT!" (Support points down)by far funnier of a time than it had any right to be.
>>2344607I liked all three lords desu, five if you count Yuri and Rhea
>>2344905Cute. For me it's the "well I guess we'll have to agree to disagree" over her dumb Black Eagles Strike Force name.
>>2344873Ok I'll try: What I'd do is avoid every Fire Emblem staple/trope as much as possible and try something totally unique. No Jeigans, no Red and Green knights, no stopping an evil empire, no stereotypical bandits, no dragons, no anything that every other fire emblem games consistently did in the past. Just have a story that's as original as can be without using all the same tropes that FE used in the past, maybe take some inspo from Final Fantasy tactics, maybe some other games. And I'm not even saying turn the game into some super dark edgy shitfest, it doesn't need to be, it could just be something that Fire Emblem hasn't been so the game can have an identity other than screaming "LOOK IM A FIRE EMBLEM GAME!"
>>2344940The reason I say this is that when Kaga left after Thracia, the FE team basically just leaned HARD into what FE fans already liked at that point and just tried to recapture the magic of FE3 and subsequent games just followed suit. They tried new shit with FE9 and 10 and when those games didn't do as well as they expected, they just went hard on something else they thought would work. (Then Awakening came around and the series was brought back using relentless pandering and was audience captured by the worst form of waifufag gooners.) Seems like the series' identity has just become all the tropes it attached to itself over the years and never recovered. 3H despite being so retarded and bringing in a flood of newfags, the game at least had an identity that the rest of FE doesn't have at all, kind of like the Tellius games.Let me know if you guys disagree.
>>2344947I do want to point out that FE9 was the last game using Kaga's notes that he left behind for them to use with that said so even Kaga was obviously trying to switch things up.I know it's a meme that doesn't really have any actual meaning behind it, the modern day FE Identity literally insists upon itself and I will agree that for all of 3H's many flaws, it has enough of it's own identity away from what's been repeated over and over, even if it's just Koei's take on a Three Kingdoms FE.
>>2344997samefagging here to follow up on something i just thought of as soon as i hit enter, stuff and structures of FE1/FE3 were done because of limitations of the time, meanwhile with so much more money and tech that IS has to throw at the series, they don't really bother to try anything fresh with the series, they're just kinda content to copy itself forever like an snake eating its own tail.
>EMBRAAAAAAAAAAACE THE DAAAAAAAAARK.>That you call your hooooooome.>Gaze upon an empty white throne, a legacy… of lies… A FAMILIAR DISGUISE!
>>2345018Why wasn't this her Conquest costume?
Anankos is the most braindead main villain in the series and none of his actions make any sense.
I can't play non-Skill Emblem anymore. Not saying I need skill builds and six-per-unit or whatever, but I at least need a little. It opens up so much gameplay and design space that FE without it just feels half-baked.
>>2289872>>2292394It's so funny that there are two parallel Fire Emblem communities on complete opposite sides of the political spectrum.July 2020 reverberates to this day...
>>2349249I would posit Nergal but we may not be ready for that conversation
>>2349307Yeah, hilarious.
>>2349307The fuck happened July 2020?
>>2349632A e-celeb got cancelled for being a creep, and since he's still relatively big FE/Advance Wars guy, he has a bunch of orbiters more or less completely unconnected to the main community. The hack he was the public face of (Aandaron Saga) is shilled here from time to time.
>>2349307it be how it is, you'd think things would be water under the bridge at this point considering it's been nearly 6 years now but no.I'm honestly curious if the divide will last forever or not, for what it's worth Eggman doesn't seem to remotely give a fuck anymore, but then you have smaller channels(smaller than his orbiters) that'll flat out ban those orbiters from engaging with their channel or not.As a side note, CyanYoh is still a close friend of Mangs, showed up to his wedding as a best man, and still is an mod for his various servers, yet Cyan gets to hang out with the non egg group from time to time and not get unperson'd. Still kinda wondering how that works out but eh.
>>2350000I think it's more likely that as the years go by we just keep getting new e-celebs who give less and less of a shit about any of it. I mean, fuck, there's probably a whole Fire Emblem tiktok community we know jack shit about, why would they care about some old millennial drama?Still, it's a shame how it all turned out. I really enjoyed those old M*kkah and M*ngs Let's Plays...
>>2350063it be how it is, at least i can still get a giggle out of pic related.
fiyaaaah embuureemu
>>2345018why did this character only appear once
>>2352204I have 0 proof but my feeling is that she's a designer's OC waifu
What was the point of making Alear a dragon if he never uses a dragonstone and transforms?
>>2352305Because Engage is a parody of Fire Emblem.
>>/v/733887417Bros these threads are so gay FE4 is a literal meme game at this point>guys lol arvis incest bbq LOL!!!!
>>2352322Whoops: >>>/v/733887417
>>2352305the past few games of not really giving you transforming dragons has made me unhappy to say the least, granted Corrin looked more like a goat than a dragon so that's not great either.
>>2352305I thought they might get their alternate self's dragonstone from the DLC but no luck
>>2352204She was supposed to be your version exclusif for Hoshido
>>2289872the Dane hasn't completed any ROMhacks, you are thinking of a bald Norwegian I assume AS, if one looks past its glaring flaws (mostly in the writing department), I genuinely think is one of the best FE games ever made. on the level of fe4/5 for me. Hopefully the "DE" polishes up the writing.I haven't finished Rebellion yet but from what I've played/seen it appears to have exactly the same strengths and weaknesses as AS so I look forward to getting around to it
>>2350063>old M*kkah and M*ngs Let's PlaysThose are good and still good, if a little sad in retrospect.M*kkah without M*ngs is hit or miss. Him voice-acting romhacks is cringy as fuck, though I do understand why he does it. M*ngs without M*kkah is horrifically bad. His voice fucking sucks on it's own, he never fucking stops talking, and he's not funny or insightful at all.
>>2355741>he never fucking stops talking, and he's not funny or insightful at all.It's like if Vinesauce Joel was a million times less funny and only played Voices of the Void and nothing else.
>>2355665I'd say Rebellion at least has better consistently with it's writing on top of better boss design, even if I'm not a fan of it's "last" map.>>2355741I can't comment on MH because I've stopped watching him but while I can agree that MS's live stream content is mostly dreadful slop that i tune out of more times than not, the scripted content is mostly fine, it just kinda reminds me of how much I dislike live stream format stuff and how visual content has shifted towards that.
I have a vague memory of Mangs playing AOE2 once
Any hopes for a new nintendo direct?
God this unit is so fucking bad. I want an archer in DLatMoL. Eli or Sherie? I'd like to say Wren or one of the nomads, but I want longbow access.
>>2363481In my run, Sherie was better, but both have around the same chance of being good.
>>2363481If you’ve been using Eli and/or he’s gotten good levels, keep him. Otherwise bench him for Sherie. She’s a little weaker but way faster.They’re both worse than Khan.
Me too, man.
>>2363994It took me too long to realize this dude is just a PG Rance that wears Blue.
>>2364300My god, you're right. >DakiniEvery time I play this hack I wish I had room for her. The midgame deployment slots are way too tight for how many new units you get.
How cruel.
Can assassins steal in DLatMoL?
>>2364980Yes.
>>2364372I think this is why I love to keep coming back to FE4, no deployment slots feels really nice.
>>2365232Doesn’t it? It’s a shame that a lot of units still don’t get to do much, but just having them deployed feels nice.Unit bloat seems to be a problem in a lot of hacks. Way too many units for how many slots you get. Maybe it’s for ironmans, maybe it’s that designing units is really easy and fun while designing maps big enough to fit large armies is pretty hard, but it’s still a problem. Nothing kills my enjoyment of an FE game like feeling constrained by deployment limits, both in hacks and official games.
Where the fuck are the secret shops in DLatMoL?
Still can't believe they got alucard in this game
This is the future that romhackers want.
>>2371653I don't mind out-there hacks. I prefer things more vanilla, but there's nothing inherently wrong with stuff like this.
Can't believe I'm saying it but I'm actually feeling pretty excited for Fortune's Weave.
>>2371960What's got you the most hyped?
>>2371960I'm staying blind on it, am pretty anxious about visiting the Three Houses setting again, and won't get to play it anyway until/unless a Switch 2 emulator surfaces.
>>2371960I hope it's good
Fuck this ass game
>>2374336I have no idea why he doesn't have a special flag not to attack her. They already did that with Clarine in her recruiting chapter, did they just forget?
>>23745096 is known to be kinda jank, new engine and all
Which villains that you consider awful?
>>2382179This is going to be controversial but Loptous. Something about the second half of Geneology felt really lazy and the writing just wasn't as good as the first.Argathians also sucked and I generally dislike most antagonists in FE. Oh yeah, Nergal is hands down the worst LOL.
>>2382179not sure I like any of them desu, even the ones that seem cool conceptually are poorly executed
>>2382179Ephidel would be a somewhat decent main henchman for the first half of Eliwood/Hector's story if he didn't die in a fucking cutscene
>>2382179In general I'd say Nergal and his goonie squad.The Slithers are hilariously under explored considering how much Fodlan we got (and how much more we're going to get)The Engage baddie gang really want you to feel bad for all of them but it's completely unearned.
>>2276712Bump
This is a rather chill FE thread compared to the ones on /v/. I love it.What do you guys think of Berwick Saga?It's arguably Kaga's masterpiece.
>>2385210I'd personally considering Vestaria 2 to be my favorite game he's made but I haven't touched Berwick.haven't gotten into that console of emulation.
>>2382179define awful, bad as in story impact, bad as in consistency or bad as in bad writing because FE villains can fall into this. Engage villains not very engaging in the story, Travant, Zehpial and Ashnard call get the horrible retcon/recontextualizing bullshit in 5,7, and 10 which pretty much breaks down what we knew of them in 4,6 and 9 Oh and the more you realize the Agarthans had space nukes and Gundams the more you realize the only reason that Azure Moon is the most digestible houses route is because it is the one route that rightfully plays them down as much as humanly possible and if houses made any sense the Agarthans would have just gone full Belka and nuked Fodlan while at war
>>2385276It could be more digestible if we're ever given a reason why they don't just nuke everything, because as far as we know they are just dedicated haters, so why not just do the ultimate hater move? They honestly need more exploration into their motivations and such considering the insane amount of tech and magic at their disposal and they just...do nothing with it.I'd say the Zephidel and Ashnard retcons aren't anywhere near as awful as the Travant one which basically removes all his agency from his decisions.
>>2385305The fact that the houses writers said multiple times that houses was inspired by 4 is really apparent in the villains as the Agarthans are suppose to be the shadow people pull the strings much like the Loptyrians but then whoever was writing watched some history channel documentaries and decided to give them super tech without realizing the consequences of doing that to the story As for Ashnard I respectfully disagree considering if I recall correctly his entire purpose of launching the war was purely due to Lehrans string pulling, like his ideology of being Senator Armstrong lite exists still but the entire reason FE9 happens is because Lehran is a stinky butthead and much like Travant I find Ashnards retcon to be abysmal dogshit
>>2385312I don't actually remember how much of Lehran was involved with Ashnard, I assumed it wasn't relevant but If I'm wrong then I'll agree with you on that because that's about as bad as Travant if true.The Main reason why the Lopt somewhat work is because we know what their end game is and everything done is to further that, revive evil god they worship, then become their chosen people, ruling over everyone to get back at their own oppression (Oppression that is deserved mind you.)All we know is that the Slithers sure do hate everyone because of...uh...reasons, and they don't commit to the hatred, They don't need to be deep or whatever, it's just the goals aren't matching what they can do, the biggest aura farmers in the series, you know if the Lotpr had access to robots and such they wouldn't even hide in the shadows.
>>2385368(me) I was double checking the Ashnard stuff and on tv tropes(not the most reliable source granted) I found this version of what was being discussed."Heinousness Retcon" "Zig-zagged with Ashnard. Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance implies that he instigated the Serenes Massacre as part of his plan to get Lehran's Medallion and a Heron who could release the goddess within. The sequel, Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn, reveals that it was actually the Begnion Senate who orchestrated the massacre (which is more understandable, given their already established Fantastic Racism and Heron slave trade). However, Radiant Dawn also establishes that the "plague" Ashnard engineered to get rid of everyone else in line for the throne was via Blood Pact, meaning a lot of innocents must have died in the process, far more than previously implied. It also establishes he was an Abusive Parent who married a Dragon Laguz in hopes their child would be powerful, and when the child seemed normal he abandoned them both. So while his heinousness was downplayed for one event, it was ramped up in other ways."So more or less Lehran had nothing to do with Ashnard or the Massacre (why would he when it's the event that set him over the edge?) It did remove the Massacre from Ashnard's bad guy feats, but decided to give him other bad guy feats that weren't described before. It's kinda shaky writing but I'm still not sure it's quite as bad as Travant, more so when Travant manages to be sympathetic even before that retcon, and Ashnard just kinda becomes an even worse fucker in 10.
>>2385376During this time, Sephiran continued to work on his plans to awaken Ashera. He learned of Ashnard, the young Daein prince, and informed him of the existence of the medallion, causing Ashnard to seek it out and desire the "dark god's" release, inciting The Mad King's War. To quote the FE wiki, from what I remember what pisses me off about Ashanrd is that I like villains that work on their own accord and FE10 pretty much tries to pivot to try and say someone else was trying to pull the strings, I dont want him to be somewhat sympathetic like Travant I want him to be the pure batshit insane the strong conquers the weak person he is portrayed as in 9. Like yeah I'll give you that Travant's is by far the worse of the three because it pretty much tries to 180 it completely and ignores the fact he wants to reunite thracia but I just hate it when future games over all try to recontextualize everythingSomething something something deconstructionism and its consequences
>>2385384Yeah that checks out, it more or less moves "he did the massacar to get the medallion" to "he decided to find it because the guy told him about it" Which isn't great, but this could've been just fine if this was the original version instead of a changed one, that's something i like to call "making a change solely because you can" which is a nasty habit that Japanese writers tend to have since consistency isn't what they strive for.Not that western writers are any better mind you, but it's a pattern.But yeah It's annoying when it's changed to something that could've worked the first time but it's common knowledge by this point that FE9 was when IS ran out of Kaga's notes which explains all the very weird FE10 changes that range from "mostly harmless" to "oh come on" With the Ashnard stuff somewhere in the middle of "He's still a super bad evil man, but now he's more of an Pawn than an Ultimate foe" But it's hardly what I'd consider the worst of the FE10 changes.On the subject of FE10 changes, I remember Excel Emblem did a long video about Blood Pacts and I remember the overall conclusion of my thoughts on that plot point was "It's not the worst bit of writing in Fire Emblem, but it is the worst part about FE10's writing" with main problems in the video being pic related.But I guess it's just another in a long line of "plot details that really should be elaborated on or focused more" Like again from earlier, the Slither's actions.
>>2385428honestly the only reason blood pacts arent the worst writing in FE is because FE Fates exist (hi conquest and rev) and 3houses lore is so drip fed and esoteric that most people don't realize the background of fodlan was the literal agarthan vs nabetean hyperwar and then when round two happened rhea was just straight up fine with white washing the ten elites, the very people who literally worked even if unknowingly with nemesis to commit some epic gamer war crimes
>>2385450It doesn't help that in the most unfinished but popular route, it either doesn't go over a single thing about the background, or it flat out lies to you about it.I like a lot of stuff about 3H's writing but I also hate a lot of stuff about it, that being one of them.
>>2385457honest to god other than fearing more of the same echoes style freeform class shit with fortunes weave Im dreading the story being just as vague and confusing as houses and hopes. Honestly at this point I just want something based like a Agarthan route where you go full GAS THE DRAGONS RACE WAR NOW, at least that would be something new
>>2385457I think I’d be a lot more fine with the Slithers if CF wasn’t so truncated and actually dealt with them.
>>2385210hexagons are cool, also you can see how FE9 and 10 ape so much story beats from this game its not even funny hell kaga even did the mybase/monastery better than fates house and engage by making the main hub 2d thank fucking god
>>2385210I really want to play it but Idk if there's a good PS2 emulator yet
>>2385767PCSX2 has been pretty good for years. Couldn't find compatability for Berwick Saga, but it's worth a try.
>spend entire game carefully training Matthew so he can steal the silver card>forget to steal the silver card>don’t even realize it until Dragon’s GateI’m fucking mad.I swear, those axereaver pegs in 19x were bait. Aion got me with the mindgames.
You guys might be able to help me solve this one.Currently doing a Solo Rinkah run. Others can heal, dance, and even take some hits (otherwise it'd be impossible), but only Rinkah can attack.Corrin still has 1 Concoction.Baiting any of the enemies guarantees that you'll get hit by four hits, as the mages all do double attacks. Corrin can survive with a miss or using the HP+5 tonic. No one else can take it.Once you bait the enemies, four more mages spawn in each corner of the map.Thanks to doubling, Rinkah can take out 1 mage per turn, leaving her at very low hp.Is this impossible?
FUCK
>>2388763How about you use Lyn to fight the Dragon the proper way instead of using the Luna exploit?
>>2388765Anon, please, be reasonable.
>>2388513Mages shouldn't double her. They have 6 SPD and she's got 14 with Kaze paired, and he'll also negate the attack stance hits.I think you are fucked on the following turns, though. I've done plenty of Kaze solos of that map, but it relies on block stacks that Rinkah won't accumulate as easily.The boss is also impossible for anyone but Corrin to damage unless Kaze gets nonstop STR levels all through the prior chapter and this one, so you're going to have to handwave this map anyway.
>>2335811I fail to see why this guy is afraid of the big bad.>not worth expstill killing them all because I got in this situation in the first place to funnel levels into my thief and new mage
>>2389169
>>2389170Hahahaha awesome
>>2389169I fail to see what there is to fail to see. The Big Bad is big and bad and Othelo(?) is weak-willed and possessive. >>2389170I don't think they ever stop.
>>2389248I killed two or three so that plus what you see is all of them.I should have used more dark magic but like most of the enemies in this game they all have javelins.>I made javalins weaker because they were too op in the base gameI have never played a fire emblem where javalins are so mandatory because of how every enemy is ranged.
>>2389251Huh. Well, RIP your weapons I guess.>every enemy is ranged.That's not true.
>>2389273just starting chapter 17 and there are 29 enemies with range and 9 withoutnaturally I am expecting about 20-30 reinforcements which will keep that ratio
>>2385210Does any game get chill threads on /v/? It seems like everything is just console/gamewar and schizoposters now, even the niche releases
>>2385826Never got too far into it because it just never clicked with me, but the few maps I did play worked perfectly.
>>2389277I actually have a savestate on 16. 46 initial enemies, 30 ranged. 8 are archers, 14 are stationary. Huh. That's more than I thought. Alright, maybe you're on to something.
>>2389312Degrees of Lewdity maybe lmaoThe Resident Evil 9 threads were really fun when it was fun to ironically ship LeonXSherry to make Adafags seethe, especially with the IGN Poll.But /v/ in general is basically the honeypot, all the insane people go there as well as everyone else, so it's bound to be unruly.
>>2389273also>3 characters from level 10 to promotion>get this>-100 anima magic charges and a lot of timeworth
>>2389432Griss enables some wonderful things. You're making me want to play this hack again. Feels like I've already 'solved' it pretty decidedly, though. I know who I'm using.
>>238940126/13 in chapter 19the end of chapter 18 you are fighting to run to the point as fast as possible with just a few units (3 melee 2 ranged) and it spawns 2 archers 2 warriors with tomahawks then another two warriors with tomahawks and a bunch of magesI'm tempted to give my +magic items to my sword users so they can use the light sword for range.
>>2389579Not Volke is ranged with his prf, Gallen(?) is ranged if you promoted him.
>>2389587I only got a few levels in him before he left.I put a lot into hilda but she didn't turn out any better than what the other cavaliers come as baseline so I just don't use horsemen at all now.
>>2389588You're probably the first person I've ever heard play this hack that didn't have Hilda end up as a Goddess of War. I'm sorry for your loss. I like Gallen a lot. Even if you barely give him any levels early-on his bases and prf are good enough to keep him going when he joins back up, and when he promotes he's a really durable mounted nos tank. It's a little disgusting. Rivkah, the third cav, is a crapshoot. When she turns out good she's really good, but when she doesn't she's total shit.
>>2389593leveled up 23 times and this is what I getI was thinking of promoting her early just for her auradwalt and now alexias have been hard carrying me
>>2389594Yeesh. I know that can happen, her growths aren't actually that great, but...yeesh. Dwalt sucks. 3 playthroughs and he's been horrible in all of them. Alexias is incredible, though. +1 range is too strong. Good on you for not getting baited on how bad he is in his joining chapter.
>>2389596he's a shitty warrior that turns into a better swordmaster once he gets to 25 hpI should give him my skill booksis it three captchas every time now how long until I have unlocked enough good boy points jesus
>>2389599If he's got a hump to get over then it's not one I'm willing to deal with. Gotta bench somebody, and mine always turns out like this.
>>2389818I think I was just unreasonably lucky with his speed and defense levels.He was so strong he was the character I sent into the arena and got 7 or 8 victories.Tankred has been surprisingly useful as well. (I gave him the crit immune item)
>>2389866Another unit I never really used, though that's more to do with just not having room around that time of the game. He seems good, but him getting no time to contribute in his joining chapter and his prf coming so late kill it for me. He's very good in the sequel, though.
>>2389962he was one of the three units I got to level 20 and promoted here>>2389170even without nos he can take a huge beating while dealing significant damagegave him +3 speed from items though
>>2389972Hey, smoke 'em if you got 'em. Nadya probably wouldn't be half as good if she didn't have those basically uncontested magic rings, but she does, so she's great.
