it's still shit
>>2357925The age-old question: Why buy new FM when old FM still do trick
So am I retarded or is there literally no way to make money in 24 to at least break even in shitty leagues nobody cares about?Is the idea that you just play youths with no staff and hope for the best until you build enough of a reputation (if you can get results) and/or hope for a deep cup run if there are financial rewards.Currently in the Azeri 2nd league and after one season I'm 1 million euros in debt.
>>2357930The world is filled with retards who absolutely positively must have the latest thing. Even when it's demonstrably shittier than last years thing.
>>2357940friendlies and selling is basically the only way i'm aware of
>>2357940It's all about friendlies and wheeling and dealing until you can reach European spots, then it gets much easier. The good thing about playing in shit leagues is the other teams are shit too, but they aren't controlled by a human.
>>2358028More people are playing FM24 than 26 though
>>2357940not to give the Official SI Seal of Approval but I wouldn't expect normal behavior from a league like that that has been edited in. Though a lot of the lower league financial stuff does seem to be abstracted down to "you lose money, you can't keep your top players just by paying them more, but you won't go into administration just from playing the game"
oh cool SI just fucked something up with the update and starting new games with editor files. I got worried it was something specific to my own gay autistic file
>>2358669FM26 has twice as many players on Steamstats and 24 is no longer included in Game Pass, so this is definitely not true.
>>2358738is it the 0-100 attribute ratings? lol
>>2358749>FM26 has twice as many players on SteamstatsThat's even worse than the reddit chart kek
>43,033 24-hour peak>84,909 all-time peak 4 months agooof
>>2359070FM24>19,068 24-hour peak>89,478 all-time peak 2.2 years ago
>>2359070
Can they just fucking make this for nfl please? American football manager when?? Franchise mode is always ass and clunky. I want to moneyball
Why don't we just make our own football manager?
Got banned from the sports interactive forums again this time for saying that I hope a gay rapist with aids rapes Miles Jacobsen
>>2359110NFL rights probably cost a few billion dollars, I swear there's a college football one tho. Someone just needs to make a good foundation and let players mod in the real life teams. It's crazy how into fantasy football people are andthere's still no decent football video game
>>2359110NFL Head Coach 09 if you want a 3D one, Football Coach: College Dynasty if you want a college text based one.
>>2359851Can you appeal?
>>2359890Ea would have to make it. Nfl doesnt want more than one company making games going back to 05. >>2359933I would be fine with text but i dont like college nearly as much. And HC09 was cool at the time but a lot of it doesnt feel good to play now.
>>2359951Well if you can wait a few years, the "sequel" to College Dynasty is in the works and will be pro focused.
>>2357925IT'S STILL FUCKING SHIT!
>>2359982Didnt know that was in the works. Neat
https://www.reddit.com/r/footballmanagergames/comments/1rr0nw7/340_year_save_hit_with_the_lesser_seen_newgen_bug/340 season save without holidaying ruined by a bug in FM24.
>>2360185That's what happens when you release a partially complete AI vibe coded tech demo as a full game.
>>2360185>>2360282Are you really going to whine about not being able to play past 340 years?
Hate the 'Back Down' option. Makes me feel like I'm bitching out to computer generated people. Sometimes it doesn't even match a 'Back Down'.
>>2360185It’s over they were gonna win the quadruple in year three hundred and forty one
>>2360185not a bad little science fiction story
how to get players in low leagues when no one will even trial or entertain offers?is it just moving U19s up until you get a good group?
>>2360630just call the best players up and ditch the rest, quickness training double intensity and then sell when they turn 19 lmao its that easy
>starting a save in southern ireland>save name: BritainxD
>>2360672>sellrelease*
>conceded an equalizer in 90+3 to a GK assistthe only reason the entire club isn't seeing my wrath is because I need to focus it all on my retard of a captain who two-footed a defender by their goal line
Amazing game
Anyone here using any of the new skins for FM26?
Every time I think I got over save scumming the game just goes way over the top with the obvious scripted losses. Like extreme underperformance for 5 matches straight or a champions league winning team just passing to the opponent, then leaving 3 players completely open while defending with more men than they're attacking with for 90 minutes and losing 6-0.
>>2362833t. karma
>>2362867Karma for what?
>>2362869Joking :p
>>2359946He doesn't need to, 3 points are in the bag
For me it's vampire
>>2358749Shut the fuck Miles, you little gimp.
Another evening of child trafficking on football manager. Signed a bunch of u18's to fund my future endevours. My recent batch of child slaves are valued around 100 million total, maybe slightly less actual selling price. That would net me 1 genuine proven wonderkid. The yearly grind for mid table quality children to sell in the future is grinding on me. I may have to revert to more ethical fund raising measures.
If your team is already good relative to your division you can make easy money by farming the full-back position. Sign an FB for cheap and give him a lot of minutes with the rest of your first team, since the FB is not that important and as I said if your team already does well in your league he will get a lot of high ratings regardless of his ability(as long as he's not atrocious) which will inflate his price and attract interest from clubs. Once he's sold for profit just repeat the process the next season.
>>2359110Front Office Football has been around forever.
>>2359110https://store.steampowered.com/app/3219190/Axis_Football_2026/>arizona redbirds lel
Does anyone know off the top of their head if the Northern Irish league has 3D kits in the base game?
7 months away from FM27any hopes?
>>2370714Depends on the international management update imo. If they pull it off they'll gain back a lot of goodwill.
>>2370714Is Miles still in charge? Then no. He's doubling down in the UI changes.
>>2370714>FM27lol
I am having fun and thats all that matters.
Any good database for FM25 that focus on past years? I tried one from the late 90s or early 00s and it was shit because every known player was like 4.5 to 5 stars.
>>2371827>FM25
>>2371827>stars
>>2370759International management is a good example of like, there's not really much of a "mode" here, you're just sticking your dick in the weighted outcome generator. What they need to do is generate some kind of emotion or ambience for the big moments, which they either hate doing or can't do. I figure they'll just bring it back exactly as it was and stamp some more licensing on it. Would also be a nice place to finally add something new to the squad dynamics, which I believe was a good idea ten years ago and has not been iterated on once?
>>2372345>What they need to do is generate some kind of emotion or ambience for the big moments, which they either hate doing or can't doNo, it's because international football irl is all about the casual viewer's experience which is anathema to the proper FM experience. Trying to appeal to casuals is what brought us this unity shitshow and muh graphics. Just accept that international football is shit in-game because it's also shit irl and leave it as it is.
just>high press>high tempo>accel/jump/paceand win
>>2372747or>rp as a real manager>tweak formations and tactics without regard to meta>be willing to make mistakes on players>take press conferencesand everything feels 10x better
>>2372988>>take press conferences>and everything feels 10x betterhahaha! haha!
>>2372988tweak formations and tactics without regard to meta>lose to scriptbe willing to make mistakes on players>lose to script
>>2373079Press conferences genuinely aren't that bad. Granted, I only do the pre/post-match ones, but it adds a bit of flavour to the save. You can create rivalries and shape the save differently compared to letting your assman handle everything.
still on fm24.been using a 3 CB/2WB formation to get away from wingers and CAMs but it's so tempting seeing the wonderkids available for cheap.still, it's defensively solid. wrecked serie C, struggled to score in serie B, but eventually got promoted. all my playmaking comes from the WBs and those are so damn hard to find at cheap prices since Italy has no money.
>90% pass accuracy, 65% possession>attacking with high directness>CL team vs relegation opponent>every highlight is my guys passing the ball to the opponents and them flawlessly connecting 20 passes, then shooting on my goalWhat do you do in this situation?
>>2376042reload
>There are people who actually play this gamePLEASE EXPLAINThis is one of those games that are an enigma to me. I always thought the brazilian obsession with soccer and enjoying management games would be a slim intersection. I have never met anyone who plays this.Do you play it for the roleplay? For the challenge?I thought if you liked soccer but couldn't play it you'd play a game about playing soccer. Is it that you find the institutions/processes/industry built around it more interesting than the sport itself?
>>2376291It's about spreadsheets emails and tactics (Unfortunately there are also casualfags who care about graphics and "immersion")
>>2376291Team-building is why I play it. I used to love franchise mode in Madden and nba 20 years ago, taking the worst teams and making them powerhouses.In FM, you can do that and get the same itch on crack. Some bum fuck team in Liechtenstein can become the best in the world if you put in the time and effort. It's not so much a challenge once you get past like 500 hours and understand when the game tries to fuck you. And when you're done with one save you can start again in a other country and self impose rules to make it harder. The game is quite popular in England and employs many fan "scouts" to help build ratings of the database. It's how you get certain players overrated when they play for like Manchester united and then become garbage when they leave.The most addicting part is the "one more day/turn" just like Civ. Always something to look at, some deadline, some goal, something to develop. And before you know it you've spent 6 hours on the game and not feel tired.
>>2376294>>2376298Like a soccer themed 4x. I get it, I think. But you people are aliens.
>>2376298>The game is quite popular in England and employs many fan "scouts" to help build ratings of the databaseThis doesn't even scratch the surface. The scale and depth of FM's database research network is genuinely insane to the point where it has a reputation in irl football as well.
>>2376299> But you people are aliensWhen it comes to American sports people have been obsessing with numbers and analytics and managing their own 'fantasy' teams since forever, but it's a relatively new phenomenon in soccer, autists have always existed but this side of the game has only gone mainstream in the last decade or two, so I totally understand your confusion, even if you grew up in a soccer country there's a good chance you were never exposed to this kind of culture.Think about this way, have you ever been frustrated watching your team and thought: "I could do a better job managing and signing players than these idiots"? That's usually what prompts me to go on a binge
>>2376331>"I could do a better job managing and signing players than these idiots"I just hope you realize FM is not a hard game and pretty much never has been. It's too easy to make a shitty team become dominant
>>2376331>have you ever been frustrated watching your team and thought: "I could do a better job managing and signing players than these idiots"?Never ever felt that as I only know how to use meta tactics that the ai is too stupid to counter, allowing me to dominate leagues with teams that should be relegation fodder.Don't act like this game is realistic.
I'm now around 300 hours in 26 and I still struggle to find things with this ridiculous downgrade of a UI
>>2376703I didn't bother, but friend who pirated it said the engine is actually fine but the UI makes the whole thing unplayable so he dropped it
>>2376703Also 300h in. Are you using bookmarks?
if i promise more playing time, will that be satisfied by friendlies? or is it only competitive matches?
>>2378741competitive only
Anyone higher?
>>2379952Why did you uninstall?
>>2380014I'm on 26 now, silly billy.
>fm26 full game available until Monday 4/20Couldn't pay me to try it
>>2357940You’re supposed to gamble your future and go deep in the red in a desperate attempt to reach European slots fast. If you aren’t bold and taking heavy risks you will always be a poor bottom-feeder or the bigger clubs bitch
>>2380636This is true irl but you're talking as if reaching Europe is as a mediocre team is hard in FM lol
I like this match engine because I feel I see a wider variety of goals scored but jfc does it suck when you want to find something in the UI and you have to scratch your head for 10 minutes trying to figure out where it is.
I tried fm 26 expecting the worst but it was mostly fine? I guess most of the truly horrible was already patched out.I can find things through the UI just fine so I don't get that criticism, but it's really messy and cramped and just plainly ugly.The engine feels the same as other games. Granted, I only ever play using 2D so I don't get see all the goofy shit, but I don't feel much difference from precious editionsThere's some stinkers though. Not being able to automatically see the matchups and results of competitions you are in is the thing that really breaks my immersion.The back button sometimes sending you back like 3 pages back is annoyingAnd most importantly the search bar is a steaming piece of shit. Like how do you even fail so badly at a fucking search functionality is unbelievable.But all in all I'm having fun™. It really scratches that fm itch I had. My last save was back in fm 16 or 18 so maybe I'm overly starved to play the game and that's why is see it with less objectivity. Also the fact that I didn't pay for what feels like an unfinished game at parts helps.>>2376714Thanks for the heads up that is was possible to pirate it.
>>2381636> 2DTry 3D and you'll see it's wildly different to all previous versions, it's a huge upgrade.
Is 26 worth it from 21? Did my first proper play through after short 5-6 year playthroughs. After years of playing. Goal is to get arsenal 15 titles and I'm about to achieve it. Might then move to another team but the feel of wanting to move to a newer game is alluring but obviously 26 seems to have it's issues and I can't get 24, nor can I find a cracked version otherwise I'd gladly play that.Should I go to 26 or is it still unfinished mess? Also have they made the game more simplistic as people describe? Because I want MORE immersion from a newer version. I've seen a few things like set pieces are more in depth but that's a slither of it.>>2381636Interesting read. What site did you get it from? I feel the UI is perfect on 21 and it would really piss me off if it's much worse. I've seen some screen shots and it looks shit but I've heard you can get a UI mod now. Really wish you could pirate 24 because I'd just play that. People have made current databases for that. Finally the last of the real players have left my 15 year save so I'm happy that it's a different universe if that makes sense.
>>2383592IMO the graphics and matches feel so much better than ever before it'd be impossible for me to go back to 24, but I do think the immersion in 24 beats 26, specifically the ability to easily look up and view things happening around your save. Try the 26 demo for free and see if you like it, if not look for Epic accounts with FM24, you can usually buy them for a few dollars since the game has been free on there multiple times.
>>2364617LORD Miles to you
Accidentally opened the /vst/ catalog and this is how I find that /trb/ is on this board now, wtf happened?
>>2386323Whether it's /sp/ being too fast or SI killing interest in the series. Probably a bit of both
>>2386323/sp/ too fast/trb/ too slow
Incredible relegation battle about to happen.
>>2386323besides what others have said, almost all the regulars from 10 years ago have moved on
Listening to depressing music as my team starts to fall apart over the past few seasons, almost 20 years at the helm. Players are turning against me. Rough patches over the past 3 seasons, getting longer each time. Winning the league by few points. Scraping by on an 87pt season. Losing out on the cups. Failing in europe. Seeing the old guard get old and decrepit. My golden age almost entirely gone. Struggling to hold onto my players. My OG backroom staff all retiring. Board losing confidence. Every day I grow older and more distant to my club. My club. Not just the end of the era in my football manager save. It's the end of an era in my life. I'll remember these players for the rest of my life. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjVQ36NhbMk
>>2388550certain saves I keep extra copies of at key points. like before job changes or like major milestones like 10 years into a save just in case i want to go back in.
>>2386323
>>2386517>/sp/ being too fastdefinitely not this oneautists drove a lot of people from that board
>>2388714oldest thread on /sp/ was 45 days ago vs this being 51last bump was 18 hours ago so this thread woulda died between these two >>2387085>>2388550
Clock is ticking for the international management "module" update in FM26..
>>2388691it really says something when fm15 had the last good regen faces. fucking Miles man.even had that one guy do hairpacks for the regens.
>>23897197 months until the 27 shitshow. Was going to wait for that. Will now wait until it's play tested by the customers. If that's also shit we might see the beginning of the end of this game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ep9lo9dPh4FM07....home
>>2390060aw damn, that guy, o'leary trainee or whatever? A normal company just hires him, or if he had a real big boy job, gets a college kid to copy his work
>22 shots savedWHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY FEEDING GOALKEEPERS AT ELCHE? This was supposed to be a simple laliga match where I win with 6-0, not fucking attack a brick of wall, this motherfucker saved a penaltie, saved 2 dozen strikes by Pino and Vini and literally every other striker, what pains me the most even thou we won was that they put 7 in the defence and were still shit, like cutting through their defefnces was liking slicing a hot knofe through butter, and their gk is literally a 2 star nobody lmfaooo, even Courtois couldnt have done these saves
>>2357925>it's still shitWhen was the last GOOD one anyway? I think the last one I actually bought was 2012 or something, around my peak enthusiasm for the Prem.
>>2392133This was a standard stat in FM15.
>>2391445looked at my backups, it was debski for the hairpack
>>2392133>mason mount to real madridFired!
bros i won the conference league
>>2396005Campeones, campeones!
My latest form of autism has been managing nothing but teams from Vila Real in an attempt to fill the Portuguese first tier with teams from that region.So far got 6 teams there, currently managing Vila Real.>Chaves>Mirandela>Montalegre>Pedras Salgadas>Valpaços>Vidago
>international management back on may 26Miles doubters in shambles https://www.footballmanager.com/news/return-international-management-and-review-fm26
guidetofm.com has been taken over and replaced with "facilities management".F
>>2399923This is genuinely an extraordinary statement from SI/Miles.
>>2399923it's gonna be a disaster lmao
>>2396005>>2397798here's the tactic
>>2400092and the almost perfect run
>>2399923>we're sorry some of you had expectations for fm26, this was the first step in a new line
>>2386517Keep forgetting >we got pushed here from /sp/, many anons who stopped playing but would want to be back probably don't even know it still exists hereI still play FM24 from time to time when I get some random idea for a new challenge but FM26 looks like complete ass so I won't even bother with it for now
>>2400198i genuinely think FM will go bunkthere won't be an FM27, or it'll be the same as 26 with like 2 "new features" but still a buggy mess.then they won't have enough money to justify FM28
>>2400295I think they will just continue making FM look more like a mobile/console game instead of a proper PC title. And I think most people will adapt anyway but some will stay on older titles like those people who still play updated PES 6 instead of newer games. I, for one, have been playing FM24 with the FM26 update for the last several saves and it's actually quite enjoyable even if the values of some players are fucked up at times
>>2400092Any player specific instructions you used? Did you have a more offensive tactic for weak opponents?
>>2400329The dumbification of society, bring down the level to the lowest common dominator. Funny how close capitalism has become to communism. Except they're doing it for profit... oh wait.
>>2400447Most people will try to adapt to not stay out of the loop. So they will gonsoom even if they know deep down they're eating shit. I'm afraid I might be one of those people who will keep playing FM24 a few years from now just with squad/relegation/promotion updates.
>>2400476That is exactly what I fear. That the protests of the true fans that have bought for the past 20 years are left behind because people just accept this shit. Angers me because everything is becoming shit because of that mentality. Values mean absolutely nothing anymore. Starts with the individual.
>>2400444when i had jack clarke i put shoots more often but that's itand no other tactic, barely ever adjusted this one. some role changes occasionally, mezzala to CM
>final day of season>need win to win title>2-1 up>90+5>concede>goalscorer is playing his first game of the seasonof fucking course
>>2400447It's the natural cycle of hobbies. They either stay closed and niche (and eventually wither out) or they get popular and then hijacked to appeal to casuals (and eventually implode or settle into a diluted version that lack any of the bite or depth of the original hobby)
>>2402443where was the depth? Certain tactics have always been overpowered, pace/acceleration/strength have always been overpowered, it was like that for decades, you didn't need chinese guys on reddit running tests to know that. The AI's decision making in the transfer market is based on player reputation and those wage/value tables in the editor. They never got squad rotation to operate at a level that any bad human player would operate at.The community did not have significant issues with the long-term problems in the game, the core gameplay loop is ~the same, and the problems new to 26 where the UI looks like shit and the "feeling" is gone can probably be undone
>better results from instant resulting matches than managing them myselfAm I retarded?
>>2372345its really hard irl so much more stuff comes down to seemingly random chance, its for very experienced managers who are facing the end of their careers really
Can someone give me a dirty defensive tactic to use? I've experimented a bit. Generally I'm low press, standard defensive line, low engagement. Using 2 DM's, two on the wide midfielder positions. 1 SS and one AF. WB's and BPD because they're technical and have vision. Standard passing with higher tempo for fast but controlled counters. Anything I can add? It does pretty well, I find it a little better that high press meme personally and I have big UCL games coming up I desperately want to win and draw. I'm already lowest conceded in the prem but borussia dortmund are very very strong and I desperately want to get through to the quater finals. Signing some strong DM and a back up SS in january. Anything else I can do? I have the best LW in the world, very solid strikers, decent SS, WB's are very good (considering FB's for the tough games). DM's are good premier league players but I'm getting a stronger player in jan, already confirmed. GK is decent and concedes few but I am not planning on getting a new one just yet because I moneyballed the last due to wage concerns.
>>2402697>Certain tactics have always been overpowered, pace/acceleration/strength have always been overpowered, it was like that for decadesWell generally in football the best players tend to be faster, only very recently in FM every other attribute has been disregarded. In FM15 Adama Traore would not have been as good as Neymar.
