I have almost 5k hours in Victoria 2 and over 1000 in CK2. I can safely say no other grand strategy games are as good as these two>Have you played anyNo and I'm yet to see a reason to
Hoi2 was pretty goodEu2 was pretty goodEu4 was good for a couple years before it got ran into the groundImperator is good, too
>>2367710HOI4 is better because it has better combat.
Me too, at least in a spiritual sense. I am an absolute EXPERT at Victoria 2. I can do the hardest challenges in that game.have a very deep understanding of the game's systems. I also was obsessed with having the hardest start possible in Crusader Cucks 2. I gave myself all of the negative traits and only increased my char's health, so he wouldn't die immediately. I edited the game files, so I could give him even worse traits. Sadly they usually disappear after a single generation, so it's just a delayed count start with a randomly generated character, who has the harelip trait, instead of every single negative genetic trait in existence.But there is something missing, anon. You need to complete the trifecta. It's time to master Hearts of Iron 3. I can win as Germany in the Götterdämmerung scenario on very hard. I can win, even if I teleport all my units back to Berlin at game start, so that the allies can take France. I can play as Communist China and win the Chinese Civil War, while starting out in a war with all other Chinese countries.
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>>2367729>Eu4 was good for a couple years before it got ran into the groundWhat changed?
>>2370438>What changed?anon became older and bitter
>>2368110Can you give me some tips for forming byzantine empire in vicky 2? I can never do it fast enough
>>2370773>Can you give me some tips for forming byzantine empire in vicky 2?Byzaboo here. This is a fucking stupid idea.
>>2370777Ive seen a guy do it by 1860... i dont meed it that early but i want it i want the purple on my screen
>>2370773I gotchu, anon
>>2367710>1000 in CK2how?its unironically just playing dollhouse gets stale after like 8 hours
Just succeeded. You can all go fuck yourselves
>>2370975CK2 is less like a dollhouse and more like a personnel management game crossed with an RPG and a grand strategy game. I still maintain it's one of the GOATsCK3 is more of a dollhouse game, where you play through wall-of-text tumblr style adventures, and the strategy stuff mostly plays itself so long as you engage with enough dollhouse levelling-up. I stopped playing before any DLCs came out, some new stuff sounds appealing from a role-play perspective (landless/Chinese bureaucracy), and superficially the Byzantine/Chinese systems go to places CK2 never could, but they're still behind where CK2 was 6 years into its life cycle
>>2367710Try eu3 with all dlcs it runs on the same engine as vic 2. Very small learning curve (trade is super easy) way better mechanics than eu4 (sliders). Only problem is the borders if you play outside of Europe typically are aids and the terrible horde mechanic (fun sometimes if you play in Asia )
>>2367710I love ck2 and am wondering about my next paradox title, you convinced me to go for victoria 2 as you seem to have great taste
>>2370438Common Sense (developing with mana) fundamentally ruined the asymmetry that is part of what makes grand strategy games so unique, + it negatively affected a bunch of other things too
>>2371413Problem CK-series is that there is no real purpose or goal.In Imperator you literally build backwater swamp with 2 pops into metropolises with 100 pops.
Well CK2 IS the best pdx game so...
>>2384735I want to say that in theory, the longer event descriptions don't have anything to do with them.It's just that context. The detail in them actually works against them, because it makes them more distinct and notable, so when you get the same event as the African Pagan as the Byzantine Emperor, it feels out of place.CK2 understood the assignment and made them short, so even if you get the same event 1000 times, it's short text and abstraction blends into the context.
>>2384735Has anyone ever read all that shit? lolI only read what consequences the decisions will have, and make my choice asap because im usually in the middle of something like moving an army.Sometimes, though, if nothing's going on, like I'm in a lot of debt. I might read some of them. I like the references. I think Shrek is referenced in a hunting event, and there's a few other easter eggs i wont spoilBut I agree that CK2 is better. Even thinking about the sound effects in that game makes me smile. I can still hear the event trumpets
>>2384735Fucking hate the CK3 event design and writing. And the scripts that check who can be in one are all dogshit.
>Paradox announce more content for the games that they update>time to broke bitch post about how you're only playing their older gamesThis "performative gamer" thing is weird.
