Today, reigning Champion Zerg Gigachad Park Sang Hyun, aka Soma, DOMINATED a Terrany and a Tosser, guaranteeing his second ASL title in a row, and the SIXTH consecutive Zerg ASL tile. Thank you for your attention to this matter.Previous: https://arch.b4k.dev/vst/thread/2349688
I used to dunk on protoss but Im starting to think its more fun to shit on terrans
Terrannies mad they're too bad to be zerg chad
oh nee zergenchaden ultradroppen op de cuckbaze
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yuAK8gFN3g>mfw tastosis faggots will wait 48 hours just to see the two terrannies whacked
ITS UPhttps://youtu.be/ToKvJQhMLW4?is=H79t-cwDaEQqCnKB
Hero almost didn't deserve to win, I was not impressed
awful dayrain underperforminghero out of shapepiano was sad to watchat least snow seems to have improved his pvz
It's his season, I can feel it. Monday is gonna be a wonderful dayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR5dVXhkPCw
>>2378795>watching Jaedong stream>randomly starts swearing in English out of nowhereAlways funny as fuck for some reason
Tastosis UPhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpduoygzzaw
Will that jinjin queer make a heckin' epic reactionerino compilation of Zerg Gigachad Soma dashing the Terranny against the stones? Of course not.
No games today?
>>2379034next week, monday and tuesday>>2379019he said he's working on a pros(on stream) reacting to the tulbo games video
THIS IS NOT A DRILLhttps://youtu.be/xWz_DlTAh3c?is=0eqDJ3KIoZ_bCHwAIT'S UP ! ! !
I avoided this place to avoid spoilers but I feel like a KING for having called the talbo darkhorse win, my friends are SEETHING. The trick to beating terran is to actually be bad, if your timings / building placements are off 5 seconds they just fall apart instantly. >"i-is that cybernetics core 3 seconds late????? AAYYEEEEEE SAVE ME FLASH SAMA!!! HE COULD BE DOING ANYTHING!!!!!! IM GOING INSANNNEEEEE I DIDNT PRACTICE FOR THIS EXACT SITUATION I'M COMPLETELY LOST IN THE WOODS!!!" *withdraws into his shell *"TURTLE I HAVE TO TURTLE! TURTLE! TURTLE!" terran players are literaly fucking LLMs, all they can do is replay games they have already played or seen.
>>2379186I wanted to see their reaction to the third game where it was actually decided he's advancing to the ro8 :(Hope Light and Tulbo end up facing eachother I'll be rooting so fucking hard for Tulbo
>>2379198It's tough to be the Terran in TvP, they have to read the Protoss perfectly in build, timing, army placement and army size in order to counter the Protoss. Get any one of those wrong and you're completely screwed since Protoss typically has the supply and econ advantage and the Terran's main source of superiority is hoping the Protoss attacks a prepared siege line with dragoons in front while tricking in zealots from behind (it's crazy how often this happens).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IEAHBFrVlwNote: if there is any truth at all to Jaedong getting better, it has to do with his acceptance of modern ZvT builds. Hydra-muta in the first game, and hydra-muta into hydra-queen in the second. Hydra-muta is technically an old build, pre-Savior, but wasn't brought back until the modern era (there might have been some attempts in 2011-2012).
Which one will advance with Flash?[no offense to my boy Ample who deserves props for making this group a reality]
>>2379284We pay no mind to terrannies here
I'M JUST A SEXY BOY
lmao, ssak threw away the 2nd game. just keep some scvs by the bunker you fucking tard.also, im glad i didnt check /vst/ until i watched the group since i know this nigger would make ANOTHER thread just to spoil results. does anyone besides me and the zergschizo even post in these threads since he killed the general? i'd say this guy is even worse than the dorfbutt guy
>>2379420I'm not the "zergschizo" but I'm also a zerg player/fanAlso imagine thinking Soma getting though this shit tier group is a meaningful spoiler
>>2379420I didn't know there was a /v/ thread
>>2379420I made a new thread since the other one reached the bump limit. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
>>2379186everyone scoffing at tulbo with disgust meanwhile based bisu having the time of his life laughing
Bisu>TerrannyJD>Other TerrannyBisu 2 - 1 JDTerrany 0 - 2 Other TerrannyJD 2 - 1 Other TerrannyTotal Terranny Death.
>>2379700Bisu > AmpleFlash > JaedongFlash 2 - 0 BisuJaedong 2 - 0 AmpleJaedong 2 - 1 BisuFlash - 1stJaedong - 2ndBisu - XAmple - X
Why can't these tournaments take place on the weekend? this audience is just sad, of course nobody wants to sit through 4 hours of starcraft games on a workday
>>2379209i completely agree. like if you are new to the game and you play Protoss and you play against someone equally new playing Terran, all you have to do is send zealots nonstop and the Terran will die
>>2379186Praying Light and/or Barracks get wrecked by TulGOD
i am predicting that ample will be the only winner of group c, he will realize what he must do and take care of business
tulbo will throw
tulGOD vs soma finals
Why does tulbo, the largest player, not just simply eat the other players?
>>2380133>mfw hero vs tulbo in the quartershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efWa_-1V9CU
>>2380185Make that semis.
Flash, the smartest player, already bet he would lose in Koreas "prediction market" app. Going to laugh my ass off when he gets knocked out after the none stop hype. >>2380615Based tulbo God, he probably absolutely crushed that married ass + pussy that night.
Reigning Champion Zerg Gigachad Soma and Snow vs. two Terrannies tag team thingy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVvPBn-XJUc>one-one-o-ACK>valk-ACK>marine tim-ACK>lost just ONE game to goyliaths (totally unserious)
>>2380615TULBED
god I can't fucking wait for group C to be a massive one sided disappointment
>>2381213>jaedong rapes everyone>bisu sucks ass>flash's wrist explodes>ample doesn't even show up
>>2381213>>2381377See: >>2379700
Oh look it's an entire containment thread the obnoxious smelly shitskin made for himself where he can talk to himself all day and night. How nice and quaint
>>2381548The Ultimate Cuckold gets eliminated roughly twelve hours from now. Set dilator to max.
SOON
whoever designed jane doe should be raped to death by a pack of ultralisks
>>2381823I can't wait to be disappointed
>>2381823LIVE>>>/v/737294897>>>/v/737294897>>>/v/737294897
Jaegod vs Tulgod finals
>>2381683>get eliminated by zergchads three times>comes back>plays ONE tvz>loses decisively even worse than beforeAlso, please note that Bisu played like trash. He made no units and was floating 1000 gas at one point. The Terranny would have been dumpstered by Tulbo, never mind Snow. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
It filled my heart with joy seeing the crowd cheer so hard for jaedong
>i>GWWARRP>am>GWWARRP>not>GWWARRP>the>GWWARRP>ultimate>GWWARRP>weapon>GWWARRP>i>GWWARRP>have>GWWARRP>not>GWWARRP>solved>GWWARRP>multiplayer>GWWARRP>GWWARRP>GWWARRP
lmao. zerg is so tough to just maek hydra. hero is such a pro
watching the korean stream jaedong said something in the winner interview that made the audience gasp. guess ill have to wait for tastosis translation to find what it was
it's uphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h156J-5LL_klots of post show reactions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwid4CD1ApYSomeone get to translating this. The jinjin guy will no doubt upload something like "Ample's Crazy Goliath Drops" instead.
>royal eliminated Hahaha! Also, there is only ONE mirror and it's ZvZ AND one of them is the reigning champion. Nice "random" ro8, faggots. Nevertheless, Soma-Snow final. Soma wins again. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Tastosis group Chttps://play.sooplive.com/artosis/293414333https://play.sooplive.com/artosis/293414333https://play.sooplive.com/artosis/293414333
>>2382921but group C has already been playedjaedong and flash winwhy do I want to watch it again?
>>2382925translations
>>2382899Predictions: Soma beats Hero. Tulbo consumes Leta's faggot ass. Jaedong likely beats Light (who has a losing TvZ record, mind you; "the best TvZ player"). Snow destroys Flash (who was practically eliminated already; Tasteless could have won those games in Bisu's place). Then: Soma beats Tulbo. Does Jaedong beat Snow? Kind of a tall order since Jaedong seems to hate hydra busting. Do we dare dream of a Gigachad ZvZ Gigafinal?
>>2382899>Leta vs Tulbo meme matchholy shit it almost redeems that waste of zvzgonna have to root against snow just so jaedong and flash can go at it againeither way the risk of a jaedong vs soma(or hero) zvz finals is pretty high :/
>>2382495It was when she asked him out who would he rather go against in the round of 8? He said "It doesn't matter"
>>2382899>Leta vs tulbotop jej
>leta or tulbo will make it further than light and flashkino
Map concept. Has this one been done before? Main idea: the bridge connecting the two double bases has several destructible thingies, both assimilators/geysers so the path can be blocked and destructible doodads keeping it initially closed. First draft. Feel free to edit.
>browse the teamliquidshit thread against my better judgement>the concern trolling/panican faggots already quivering over "soma's zvz">check the liquidpedia>it's 61% with most of the games played when he was worse than today>check hero's zvz>it's 51% with most of the games played when he was better than todayUnreal faggotry.
>>2383187ZvZ is the one matchup where a shit player is more likely to beat a good player because there's so much RNG
Since Soma(maybe Hero with the right coin flip) got a free ticket to the finals best case scenario is Jaedong being defeated by Flash or Snow. I really wanted Jaedong to go all the way but if that means ZvZ finals I'm gonna have to hope he loses in the semis. Soma vs Flash or Soma vs Snow would still be pretty exciting, at least moreso than Soma vs Jaedong
>somfag ever beating Letawe're getting TvT finals
Today's game were surprisingly entertaining despite being TTTT. Leta's wraiths managed to keep things fresh
kek ZvP is such a joke of a matchup. zerg either wins off of a 3hatch hydra rush or just spams the tanky air unit to kill protoss' main aoe dealer and then just wins with hydras anyway lol.in the RARE case zerg decides to play late-game, they just use ezpz defiler. hero didn't really play that well but still made it to ro8hopefully flash makes it out in groupC. i'll have to watch it today or tomorrow.
man, zerg so OP that it even beats flash lol.
Holy fuck JaeDONG
>>2383424flash w/ hands would stompcrippled grandpa flash cannot cope anymore
I'm okay with Jaedong vs Soma finals. Soma(ì§ì œ)'s name cames from ì§ = fake, ì œ = jae, he explained as much because back in the day he was a jaedong fan that imitated his playstyle. So yeah Jaedong vs Fake Jaedong
>>2378795boy were you right
what are terrans supposed to do vs zerg these days if zergs remember to build sunkens to defeat basic timing attacks? they keep trying to make mech work, but it never will lol. going bio seems nearly impossible unless zerg screws up big time.seems similar in PvZ
>Flash vs JD>JD decides not to make a sunken against incoming vulture to squeeze every last ounce of economic optimization>manages to kill the vulture with zerglings only>this later translates to hitting Flash 15 seconds sooner than he otherwise would have>if his hydras got there 15 seconds later Flash would have two more tanks predeployed, and likely being able to shred the hydrasWas it basically all about that super-risky decision to not make that one sunken?I remember one or two seasons ago he also foregone on making a sunk, couple marines just walked in and made him gg, in at least two matches.>pic unrelated
https://play.sooplive.com/artosis/293440847https://play.sooplive.com/artosis/293440847https://play.sooplive.com/artosis/293440847
>game 1 of ample vs flash>omg ample is stupid and far behind>despite ample getting his command center up only like 5 seconds slower because he didn't scv scout so he had more minerals>game 2 of ample vs flash>they miss flash building a barracks first and say they both went cc first>game 2 of bisu vs flash>artosis says that if flash cross map scouts he'll leave (i am aware he's joking)>doesn't even mention that he cross map scoutsi like them but jesus christ they need to pay attention
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ex7ww0ZZPtUKCM again. Keep in mind there is only one Zergchad active at a time so it's basically Reigning Champion Zerg Gigachad Soma vs everyone else.
https://youtu.be/gnRgC33s7YA?is=5PaDM9pWKHbhO9PIIT'S UP
>>2383792What do they know?
>>2383818it's not a simulation
>>2383792I wonder how different this asl would have been had effort not forgotten to sign up
>>2383581>what are terrans supposed to do vs zergLose. Starcraft is a solved game.
Leta will save us from the zerg menace
Where can I find Soma's stream? I've tried looking on Soop with no luck
>>2384003is it not on his liquipedia page?
Man Soma got so fucking lucky with the groups. Jaedong Light Flash Snow is like group of death part 2 meanwhile he has a free pass to the finals.
i know talking about patching broodwar is retarded but can the defiler just be a bit nerfed? maybe dark swarm reduces damage to 1 like dmatrix
Alright boys lets see em. Post now to claim ultimate bragging rights later
>leta or tulbo will be ro4 and be seeded for next tournamentLMAO
>>2384148i think jaedong has a good chance of winning it all. i think the meta is just in such a great spot for zerg right now that, unless he just plays like shit, he should be able to beat everyone.my hope is that flash or leta win though.
>>2384148soma > heroleta > tulbojaedong > lightsnow > flashsoma > letajaedong > snowsoma > jaedong
>>2384148Light is going to win
>>2382899absolute kino bracket
if one of them eliminated their opponent outside of starcraft would that disqualify them? asking for a friend
Based wraith spammer
>>2384505you can't just eat your opponents, tulbo
I really don't want a ZvZ finals. Since Soma or Hero are 100% sure to make it, Snow or Flash will have to stop Jaedong so we can finish this asl with a bang.
damnLeta & Barracks are my favs and I wanted both of them to go to ro8.
There's a world where Hero has enough luck to beat Soma which gives Leta some chance against Hero meaning a Leta vs Jaedong finals is a possibility.
>>2384652I'm taking this hopium right in the vein
>>2384522>zvz finals
>>2384680>less than 20 minutes of total gameplay
do you guys think leta is gonna build wraiths
>>2384701he's gonna smuggle banshees into the game
this is Flash's last ASL he said? I hope he sticks around somehow.
make mutalisks medium
>>2384701They really aren't that good against protoss. Dragoons and observers are both standard in a protoss army from pretty early on in the game and together counter wraiths pretty comfortably. But Leta will build wraiths and do damage with them anyway
>>2384902He also announced his retirement last year...
>leta vs tulbo>to be top 4 and seeded next seasonI don't know who to root for. I want them both to win
>>2383864"forgot"
>>2384108EMP dispels dark swarmfite me
>>2384951https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw-FTrnaKRk&t=2413s
>>2384368>leta > tulboin the rock paper scissors of starcraft, bad protoss beats fancy terran. tulbo will win
>>2385316>tulbo>bad protossdelete this
>>2383707>Was it basically all about that super-risky decision to not make that one sunken?Kind of, yeah. Catching the vulture with his zerglings changed the outcome of the game because it made Flash blind. He doesn't know that Jaedong isn't making mutas and has to prepare for it anyway
>>2385340He could've just sent another vulture or built a comsatWas a decision from both of them to just go max greed
IT'S UPhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpOhAdoAHfI
>>2385379Based soma shitting on flashitter. You could tell how much he was rooting for jaedong in >>2383792
>>2385379
>>2385379Buck breaking confirmed.
>>2385379>>2385507>p-p-p-please tell me w-what build to use gigachad>haha no
>>2385512To be fair, would you tell the greatest player of all time that his build is shit and he shouldn't use it?
>>2385326bad protoss is a style not a skill level
>>2385407he's saying he's still gonna play starcraft from time to time for fun, just not competitively
>>2385614he'll be back in asl23he'll say it's gonna be his last tournamenthis valk micro will still suckArtosis will pretend that he has won every tournament he participated inTasteless will genuinely think that Flash even won as random
>>2385587what does "good protoss" look like
>>2385407>>2385507>>2385512idk what terran should do at this point vs zerg (besides lose lol). mech was, is, and will always be shit. bio is too ez to defend against and wait until defilers are out or just harass forever with mutas
>>2385629just gotta get good with 2port wraithtrust the plan
Leta is singlehandedly changing the meta
tvz is still like 55-45 for terran in the "balanced" mapsflash is just a lazy fuck that doesn't want to play bio because >muh arms
maybe tvz is fine if you look at good terrans vs bad zergs, but when it's good terrans vs good zergs it's pretty lobsided these days
>>2385642>these daysIf you look through the last 10 years of Broodwar you can see various points where matchups have looked lopsided in favour of one race or another.Players come up with counters to the "meta" builds and get better at dealing with them and things return to the mean.I don't think it's even a tvz problem in this case. Soma and Jaedong are good against everyone at the moment because they're just good players.
>>2385629The Goliath build has always been shit. I don't know why people keep trying it, Flash of all people. I've seen him fail that build more than anything else.
im going to be real here, flash will not lose to snow
>>2385669Everyone knows Snow is the best antiTerran player of all time. He won't lose to anyone but Soma/Hero/Jaedong. Flash's fate is sealed, shame we won't get to see a Jaedong rematch
>>2385674Flash vs Snow is just going to be a repeat of thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcP0MATBFYI
>>2385689except Snow has vastly improved while Flash has gotten way worse
>>2385669eh idk. it's a toss-up *badum-tss*
>>2385646sure, it ebbs and flows, but zerg is just so well-optimized at this point that it's hard to see it really swing back the other way (unless leta finds the ultimate wraith build or the maps are radically changed to be anti-zerg)
>>2385674>>2385721snow probably has the best shot but he will not beat flash in a bo5 on these maps and in-person
I can't decide whether to root for Jaedong or Soma.
>>2385692Snow hasn't "vastly improved", he's always been a strong protoss player and still is. Flash also doesn't look "way worse". Did you watch his games against Bisu?
>>2385528>>2385629>sk terranny gets dumpstered by hydra-lurker-defiler>sk terranny with tank support gets dumpstered by hydra-lurker-defiler even harder>muh mech switch gets dumpstered by hydra-lurker-defiler>goyliath into tanks gets dumpstered by muta-hydra into hydra-queen>vulture-tank gets dumpstered by ultra-ling with drop>the wraith meme gets dumpstered by just mutas>the old kepa zergslop composition is also still viable somehow against all of the aboveTerranny status: NOT ok. What next? Sky Terranny? >tfw you might get to see muta-scourge-queen dumpster bc-valkyrie-basedence vessel
>>2385648Flash was smashing zergs in proleague with it a couple months ago
>>2385834word, word word wordhe should try it again
>>2385834>it was real in my mindReminder: without his two third place series in ASL 9 and 10, his TvZ is 59%.
Barracks will supply Flash with builds to save him in TvZ>"just don't go mech you fucking retard"He'll say to Flash
>>2385834and now they all know how to counter it.
Letabros... IT'S UP!https://youtu.be/gTpvVgE2fq8?is=4duXZs6_eZyXy_KT
>>2385812oh wow you are deluded living in an alternate reality
>zerg schizo talks about how every terran build is easily countered>somehow doesnt believe zerg is OPuh ok>>2385846reminder, if you remove all of flash's wins, he has a 100% losing record, you retard.
>>2386018zergschizo will see this and will reply with,>ummm terran *is* OP, zerg players are just so much better!I'd love to to see him try to defend all the insane overpowered bullshit zerg gets in SC2 and claim zerg hasn't been broken across 25years of starcraft
>>2386018Third place matches shouldn't count since the possibility of winning, present in all other matches, is no longer there, therefore, the matches are vitiated or otherwise distinct from the others. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
>>2386018>>2386031>ummm terran *is* OP, zerg players are just so much better!Indeed. Let us consider how ZvT would look if Zerg Chads would play like Terrannies. A-move zerglings into bunkers. Stay on two bases for twenty minutes. Auto-quit if supply is equal. Wow.
>>2385998I will revisit this post after the match. At this point it's all conjecture.
>>2386316you get up on out of here
>zerg being able to easily and effortlessly counter every single possible terran and protoss build means zerg isn't op.how enlightening.
>>2386410Easily? How long would it take a Terranny to perform a successful hydra bust against Snow? One hundred attempts? More?
>>2386527>wake up>maek wraith>win>go to sleephow does he get away with it?
>group DI HATE TVTI HATE TVTI HATE TVT
>>2386586it was really good man
>>2386609by tvt standards maybe. but i still hate tankslop
>>2386612you are not a proper appreciator of the game
>>2382899>Nice "random" ro8,I don't appreciate you doubting the integrity of the ballgirl
>>2386617AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I don't think most people realize just how luck based ZvZ really is. Soma may very well lose tomorrow
>>2386654If there is a Zerg Chad to FINALLY:1. Open hydra-ling.2. Hold natural choke with hydra-ling.3. Build up critical mass of hydras while defending against mutas with spores.4. Move out and double expand.5. Rush to hive for plague. 6. Finish with hydra-lurker-defiler against muta-ling.It's definitely Zerg Gigachad Soma. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Crazy that we only have one(1) PvP left
crazy that ur gay lmao
Manifesting a Soma vs Snow finals pt2 where Snow gets humilliated once again
Manifesting a Snow vs. Flash finals pt2 where Snow finally vindicates himself 4-3 while Flash's hands fall off.
it'll just be the one hand
The sooner you accept we're stuck with a Soma v Jaedong ZvZ finals the better. Just enjoy the ride
>>2385631>>2385632he is actually onto something. one-shotting overlords seems very powerful. it's very nice to see zerg on the receiving end of "muta harass" in TvZ (in this case it is wraiths)
>>2386976>terranny meta units are so overpowered it took them 20 years to remember they have other overpowered unitsTwenty years from now we'll be hearing "ZOMFGZZZ D00D DID U SEE DAT TERRANNY'S GHOSTERINO BUILDERINO???".
Reigning Champion Zerg Gigachad Soma dashed Hero against the stones. It was like watching National Geographic. All Terrannies and Tossers pissed themselves watching. It's guaranteed now.
Concern trolling panican faggots on teamliquidshit:>https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/644924-asl21-ro8-preview-pt1-inheritors>(Z)Soma might have legitimately gotten the unluckiest outcome for himself, as he would have probably been happy to face off against Light or FlaSh in a ZvT. Instead, he gets a ZvZ matchup, one of his worst and one of (Z)hero’s best. To make matters worse, he’s been struggling in the online ZvZ matches for the month of April, causing him to slide all the way down to the 20s in the ranking. He’s 18-25 as of writing this article, and his last 3 extended series have been a 6-9 loss to Soulkey, a 4-3 win over Jaedong, and a 1-4 loss to Jaedong. Even worse, he’s 0-3 against (Z)hero in daily proleague matches as well. His ASL ZvZ record is also not great, as he’s been eliminated in ASLs 10, 14, and 16 to Zergs while not really having the same success against them. It’s going to be an uphill battle and while (Z)Soma’s understanding and gameplanning is top notch, his raw mechanics are lacking in a matchup that is predicated on lightning fast decision making and extremely tight mechanical duels.HAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
kill yourself schizo
Reigning Champion Zerg Gigachad Soma's win in the second game was exceptional. He never threw mutas "harassing" the mineral lines, just probed for a weakness, put his mutas between Hero's two bases, forcing him to do something, and he chose to take the fight; did Zerg Gigachad Soma know he would do this and that he would win the engagement? He only began killing drones after gaining air superiority, some of his mutas died or were put in the red by Hero's spores, but it was well worth the exchange. He then did NOT scramble for the finish but took a third, gaining a totally insurmountable advantage, and Hero shortly conceded after seeing the third. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
>mfw 16 minute game>Terran doesn't even scan my side of map, let alone walk thereSo this is the power...of diamond Terrans...
we love sc2 here
>>2387374this
>https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/644924-asl21-ro8-preview-pt1-inheritorsWhoever is writing these ABYSMAL posts should step down.
>>2387543why don't you post a link to gamefaqs while you're at it, who reads that shit
>>2387566gamefaqs has never let me down, show some fucking respect
Absolute unit stuffing his facehttps://youtu.be/EQkgoNG8YBE?t=570&is=eFmSwJsleEmH97mq
>build spire first>winNice mirror matchup you've got there zergkeks
watching the jaedong post-review is funny since he keeps making claims zerg isn't op lol.>yeah, he can't scout me because i can just float le funny overlord over the units on the ramp, but that's protoss' problem :). doesn't mean zerg is OP
Tulgod let us down but it's still funny that Leta is making it further than 1/2 of Light/Flash/Jaedong/Snow
>>2388100Jane Doe was tailor made for Terrannies to prevent gas steal.
"There are times where I lose from the best possible position, so that means I can also win from the worst situation."- Jaegodhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFleh8At1V4
>>2386481what is all this then, zergschizo >>2385817? why do (you) lie so much and claim that zerg isn't OP when you just said that zerg can easily counter most terran builds?also,>wraiths>op in any way>right after (you) said mutas "dumpster* wraithsplease actually the game for once in your life.
>>2388371i want jae's dong
>>2387796>build 2 spore crawlers in each base>casually kill 2000x2000 worth of resourcesProblem mutakek?
>>2388614Yes.
People shit on ZvZ but Soma's mindgames on games 2 and 3 were beautiful to watch
we are going to watch sc2
>>2389398No we won't>>>/out/
>>2387383How many Korean chicks did he fuck?
I hate tulbo now, stupid protoss
>>2389398>the terranny is a trannyCan't make this up!
>>2388735>spore crawlers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSVegRkxSHgTastosis Bum City cast. The only redeeming feature is the translation. Reigning Champion Zerg Gigachad Soma said that he had a sit down with the other Zerg Chads before the match, and that his wife fulfilled her domestic duties, allowing him to prepare in peace. Absolutely based.
>mfw the asl jannies made the ro8 bo5 hoping it would stop reigning champion zerg gigachad soma since more games always favor the better player>mfw they drank their own koolaid (the absurd psyop that the reigning zerg champion "is bad at zvz") and put him against hero>mfw even terranny jannies KNOW it's over for terrannies and at this point just pray that a lesser zerg takes down the zerg gigachad >mfw he went 3-0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yuAK8gFN3g
hell yeah
sorry jdongers but I'm betting on light
>>2389776lollmao eventhe only person with a chance against jaedong is _soma
>>2389776as unlikely as it is, I need Jaedong to win so Leta can get revenge in the finals
>>2389776Reminder that this Terranny has a losing TvZ record. Or at least did before the Calm games. Not even Tossers, who, as a race, have been buck broken by Zerg Chads for almost 20 years now, have losing PvZ records. Not even Stork's PvZ was ever below 50%, I think.
Light shitting on Tulbo party UP!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAGBCsoYqoM
>>2389838oh shit there's even part 2https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zG5JxNNl3Lc
we are going to watch the tasteless tournament
>>2389838>>2389847>be tulbo>throw
>>2389977Then go make a thread about itirrelevant to this thread's topic
>>2390046nah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vCIJLC-OsQReigning Champion Zerg Gigachad Soma giving a lecture while beating a Tosser. Can anyone translate?
>>2389977how has sc2 been? i stopped watching when tastosis stopped casting GSL.is it still as bad as always?
All the Terranny mirror slop in asl has been a bitch to get through.
ok who cares
The first two games are on the two two player maps. If Jaedong can resist 12 hatching like a spaz, he goes up 2-0 and it's over for the Terranny.
>dong picked match point firsthe's 100% going to 4 pool
please let the finals be flash x soma(or even snow x soma)im killing myself if it's ZvZ
>>2391533>please let the finals be flash x soma(or even snow x soma)>im killing myself if it's ZvZZvZ is too much testosterone for one match. It's basically gay.
>tfw watching reigning champion zerg gigachad soma going 8-2 against terranny rush on stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6Ah4ZiGoWEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBNP9-OKcUMA little taste of the Gigachad Gigafinal, Terrannies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcZsYLPfL1g>soma NOT playing in kcm this week but zerg chads still win without him>last chad standing is ZEROAre you ok, Terrannies?
why are gooks so bad at business when not propped up by the government? why host tournaments on weekday nights instead of weekend night? why did they think fucking soop was a good name
Thoughts on Artosis and Tasteless?
RT is alright but tasteless single-handedly makes their casts unwatchable
The fall of Flash and JD
m a t c h f i x i n g
>>2393269yeah whats the value-add of having tasteless in artosis castdefinitely less than 50%they are getting 10k/month from patreon, tasteless lucked out with getting good partner and is getting carried
Sad, but by no means surprising. Consider that:1. There can only be one Zerg Chad at a time, and it's currently Soma.2. Jaedong is utterly buck broken in ZvT, since the KeSPA days, in fact.3. He has so far only won FOUR boX series in the ASL: a bo5 vs. Stork in ASL2, a bo3 vs. Speed in ASL19, a bo3 vs. Sharp in ASL20, and a bo3 against Bisu in ASL21.
On the plus side, Light looked terrible in the late game. Snow will ape him.
it's dongver
>>2393523It's even worse. Jaedong's last boX victory against a Terranny in a Starleague was: in the MSL, in the 2011 ABC Mart MSL, and, in the OSL, in 2009 Bacchus OSL. This is BAD.
>>2393546>in a StarleagueMake that, in a KeSPA Starleague.
I'm just glad we're not closing this season with ZvZ
I want Snow to take out Flash.
>>2393677Same but then I need Light to beat Snow because I want TvZ finals
It's Jaedover
>>2393677Won't happen on these maps
>flash vs light tvt semisIt's gonna be a pain to watch. Only leta can make TvT interesting
Sic Semper Terranny!
i got a semi right now ;0
Snow's nerves will cause him to lose
>>2385998ha
Both Terrannies looked bad in the mid and late game. Neither could win even a bo3 against Reigning Champion Zerg Gigachad Soma; that third game against the Terranny in the ro16, neither can touch that. Kinda of weird that Snow lost to a Terranny (even the Terranny looked surprised as game 5 ended). I guess it's the overall buck breaking he received from the Zerg Chads, just like what happened to Jaedong.
>>2393269Tasteless used to make me laugh all the time but not so much any more. It was better when they were both ignorant about high level play and how it works. Artosis was always the more analytical one grounded in game knowledge but Artosis has only gotten better at the game while Tasteless has stagnated and the difference in their knowledge is immediately clear, so it's ended up where it feels like Tasteless doesn't have anything to add. Artosis can explain PvT better than Tasteless can which really shouldn't be the case.
>>2394352>but snow looked pretty bad himselfTrue. However, Tossers don't need to be good to win. In fact, the worse they get, the more they win.
It's Snowver
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8w4S8i7rk0Effort vs. Terranny on Match Point, so we know it's recent. Forced on all fours by bog-standard Zergslop.
damn, jaedong almost had it, but fell victim to his nemesis.
>>2393690Lol, Terranny with a death wish
https://vod.sooplive.com/player/193359593Someone get to translating what Reigning Champion Zerg Gigachad Soma said about the Terranny here.
>Tasteless getting chills over JD holding a push>RT starts praising his brilliant decision making>JD concedes 20 seconds laterI love these casts
the dickish shit casters do I swear
>>2394914I think Tastosis are a couple of bums but there was something very strange about that last game. It totally looked like the Terranny's push would get deleted, Jaedong had the pincer, stopped reinforcements and everything. Maybe he tried to Toss it and didn't look at his units?
>watching mrllamasc (diablo streamer) play random ladder>c rank>when he's a tosser it looks EXACTLY like an asl tosser>when he's a terranny and maeks marine it looks EXACTLY like an asl terranny>when he's a zerg he can barely stay at 100 supply and looks retarded
>JD nervous already during interview against LightWhat was going in inside his head? Feel like he lost right there
>>2395306Buck breaking from the KeSPA era, unironically. See also: Soulkey buck breaking Snow.
>>2395306>What was going in inside his head?"WRAITHS could be here" he thought, "I've never been in this map pool before. There could be WRAITHS anywhere." The cool wind felt good against his bare chest. "I HATE WRAITHS" he thought. "Candy" by H.O.T reverberated his entire "soundproof" box, making it pulsate even as the â‚©900 HOT6 energy drink circulated through his powerful thick veins and washed away his (merited) fear of WRAITHS after 1-1-1. "With two control groups of Mutalisks, you can kill turrets anywhere you want" he said to himself, out loud.
TOSS SISSIES?
Jaedong lost in the really bad ZvT maps and won in the reasonable ones
jaedong just doesnt know how to win against basic pushes without just cheesing.
Light is underrated because he's just boring, people are already counting him out assuming the finals are flash vs soma when it can very well be soma vs light. If anything he would have had a harder time against snow, him possibly beating flash is not a stretch
light's a great, solid player, but i really think you need more cheeses/technical builds mixed in to beat soma and idk if he can do that compared to flash. though flash has been somewhat disappointing with making weird choices on builds.
Zergsisters... I thought we had the best units in the game...
Leta vs Flash..Leta vs Light..Kino finals
Leta will spam wraiths until he wins
>>2396082lmao
>Light vs Flash Bo7yeah I don't think I can stomach this. at least wont be watching live so I can 2x speed and skip around to juicy parts
the thing about flash that makes it so unsatisfying is that when he does lose, and he will(be it against light or soma) you can always pull muh wrist as an excuse which takes away from the other person's win
Thoughts on pole star?
>>2396459ackshually something something buddhist/hinduist/jainist symbol something something nazi swastikas go in the other directiontired discussions grow up
>>2396459needs more buildable terrain. zerg gets all their little faggy pillars and free damage on expos, give terran something
>>2396459needs less buildable terrain. zerg doesn't get enough of their straight pillars and it's hard to deal damage on expos, don't give terran anything
>>2396459I like it to a certain degree, it's a good mirror map
>>2396581Walls or pillars that block vision are put in most bases to help Terrannies and Tossers droptrooning. Terranny and Tosser drops being the most abusive and totally retarded in the late game. Again, it's integral to the overall mass delusion that they ever were good at the game. It's just that the drops are literally invisible until they are in your base. See also: the bug whereby there is no alert if a unit dies in one hit that won Tossers hundreds of games for free.
ok zerg schizo the walls are totally for hiding drops for T/P when zerg has a million overlords to spot over walls lol.do you even use your brain?
>>2396858If you check the first person view, you'll see that drops are almost never visible on the minimap. Overlords in the flight path of the troonships tend to get killed.
>first person viewbuddy, this is an RTS, not an fps lol
>Flash vs Snow
Soma's wrists are in good condition right?No history of injury or tear?
>>2397472he plays zerg, take a guess
>>2397472I've never heard of Soma having wrist issues, at least. Since he was an amateur he never through through the Kespa era progamer house grind, which probably helps.
IT'S UPhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBgG-awx5GM
ro8 matches were disappointing except for jaedong vs light
>>2397724I thought so too. Tulbo totally floundered and both Snow and Flash looked very shaky. Snow looked more shaky to nerves, Flash in general hasn't looked that strong. Hero vs. Soma was about what I expected, but my expectations for a ZvZ aren't high. It's not that it's not fun to watch, there's just so little to it.
>>2397764>Snow looked more shaky to nerves, Flash in general hasn't looked that strongbruh… of course they’re going to make mistakes when they’re playing each other. Without mistakes, Flash would mop the floor with him.
>>2397783Snow always kinda flubs things when it comes to offline play
>>2397553aightstepping outside of my Leta delusion I'm thinking if there's genuinely a way he could win Like if there was a wrist injury gap to Leta's advantage, if the early games goes long then I could maybe see Leta squeezing out a win in a best of 7.I sadly don't see how very good micro and wraith control will stop Leta from fumbling advantages in 4-7 games, like I could see Leta in a good position one game and then he loses 7 vessels for free and he never recovers.also fun fact, Soma's had more earnings in starcraft this year, than Leta's had in his entire starcraft career.
>>2397764i think flash's play being shaky is at least excusable since my guess is he wanted to end games earlier rather than do a bunch of long games since his wrists might not hold up. so even when it'd be better to play a long macro game, he didn't want to unless he had to. could be retarded cope, but that's my guess.snow is just retarded in general. great at microing reavers and making quick tactical decisions, but otherwise meh.
>>2396459The bases at 3, 6, 9 and 12 stress me the fuck out. They're so tightly packed that it feels like raids on them are way more deadly than most other maps' thirds.
ARTOSIS PLAYINGhttps://www.twitch.tv/zzzeroplhttps://www.twitch.tv/zzzeroplhttps://www.twitch.tv/zzzeropl
>>2398719Not interested in Terrannies
>>2397948I think Leta can definitely take a win or two through vulture and wraith memery, specially on maps like Jane Doe. But I would be genuinely shocked if he managed to win a BO7 somehow.
>>2398719Based Zerg Chad Stryker walking all over the Terranny.
why is he like this?
>>2399048his mom can't afford his meds anymore
>>2398678Yeah, Flash was going for an all-in each game and Snow managed to somewhat deflect it each time but could never totally overcome the push. The games just dragged out as a result.
>>2397472flash should hire a hitman to smash one of soma's wrists with a hammer during one of his games vs leta
Letasisters we can do it
>>2399688best case scenario is he taking a game
>>2399688best case scenario is he wins 4-0
>>2399048Lol, 15% of posts ITT
is "Terranny" supposed to be a joke about the way koreans say "Terran" or a joke conflating "Terran"+"Tranny"?
New video just droppedwww.youtube.com/watch?v=hyhU2Mojq8c
>>2399916Why can't Korea just get Flash some sort of cyborg arm so we can have TOTAL TERRAN SUPREMACY
TOTAL TERRANNY DEATH!
On Reigning Champion Zerg Gigachad Soma's victory today: The Terranny is old (and gay). Gigachad is young. Why, then, did Gigachad not force micro battles, instead taking it deliberately slowly and going for the late game? Very simple: macro and decisions are more taxing than micro. Note how the Terranny took one game precisely through micro, and, in all five games, the Terranny looked exponentially worse the longer they went on. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
chills
>>2401053>lose to zerg chad effort in asl 6>m-m-muh wristerinoooos>retire>retroon for asl 9>lose to zerg chad zero who then won the asl>OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO>they straight up let you cheat in asl 10 and play random >UNPRECEDENTED cope and preferential treatment >get absolutely destroyed by zerg chad SOMA 4-2>retire again>duck upcoming zerg chad soulkey throughout seasons 12-15 when he consistently made ro8>duck zerg now-gigachad soulkey throughout seasons 16-19 when he destroyed the top terrannies and SINGLE-HANDEDLY gatekept all of them from winning a second asl >utterly buck broken by zerg>zerg gigachad soulkey finally declined and lost in asl 20>miraculously retroon again hoping that zerg chad soma winning asl 20 was just a fluke>decisively lose your first tvz in groups to jaedong (weaker than action or shine)>realize you are clueless against modern zerg >zerg now-gigachad soma marched to the final uncontested >about to be buck broken by the zerg gigachad for the FOURTH time and commit the ultimate transitionAre you ok Terranny?
SKYZERG ZVT THEORY:1. What?Skyzerg: using mass muta with devourer, queen, and defiler support against Terrannies2. Why?The general: air units don't use terrain, rendering Terranny map design bias null. The particular: Terranny mines and tanks are now useless, and Terranny vessels can no longer abuse Zerg ground units (even less so than against hydra-defiler). Moreover, Terrannies would not be able to respond with their own air builds since plague would destroy their whole army, therefore, Terrannies would be forced to respond with either bio and/or goyliaths. 3. How?First, the path to mass Zerg air is very simple and tested at the highest level: mass muta opening against mech in particular, or muta opening against bio. The only necessary adjustments being queens against bio (ensnare reduces stimmed marine dps to unstimmed levels), and faster defilers against mech, skipping the usual hydra finisher/pivot (goyliaths and tanks are, of course, immune to the ensnare attack speed debuff, per the usual Terranny imbalance). Second, the path to victory is also very simple: between fast ensnare, devourer debuff (which also reduces attack speed, stacks with ensnare), and fast plague, any Terranny air unit push would fail, moreover, a bio push would die to ensnare, mass mutas, and sunkens, and, finally, an all goyliath push would be constantly delayed by the Zerg Chad threatening to destroy the Terranny's key buildings with the mutas, enough to get plague and consume in time. The finisher is obvious: the Terranny can neither take a third nor efficiently trade against the Zerg Chad, for once, therefore, the Zerg Chad will expand uncontested and run the Terranny over.
>>2401298Common objections and rebuttals:>MUH IRRADIATE!Irrelevant. Every Zerg unit can get irradiated. Moreover, the vessel cloud simply cannot grow given mass Zerg air units.>MUH EMP!Irrelevant. Ensnare is only 75 energy and air casters can be protected far better than ground caster. See: Terranny vessels that can constantly irradiate even against hydra-defiler.>MUH VALKYRIES!Irrelevant. Ensnare stacked with the devourer debuff makes them shoot at a glacial rate.>MUH CLOAKERINO WRAITHERINOS!Irrelevant. Overlord speed plus ensnare is a hard counter.>MUH BUTTLECRUISER!Irrelevant. See the valkyrie point. Just flying trash cans.>MUH 3/3 BIOBALLZ!Irrelevant. Plague and ensnare would allow mass 3/3 muta to kill infinite marines.>MUH RESTORATION!Irrelevant. Single target. Useless.>MUH MASS DROP!Irrelevant. Skyzerg would catch dropships midair. >MUH COSTIrrelevant. Mutalisk: 100 gas, 2 supply. Queen: 100 gas, 2 supply. Devourer: 50 gas (on top of the 100 for the muta), 2 supply. They all share upgrades. Therefore, among the cheapest compositions in the game.Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Meds. Immediately.
man, mutas are OP lol
lmao, crossmap ensnare from the queen. must be nice being the OP race with the best, and easiest to cast, spells. (along with the best units)
WE LOVE ISRAEL HERE
>>2401558Terran Marines attack Civilians even when unprompted
wait, Flash is good?
>>2401672no but they paid off light to throw the games so the grand finals sell more tickets
Lightbros... losing aint so bad
>>2401672Always was.
why did flash keep messing with his belt inbetween matches?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drx1I7kVWG0>Leta states in pre-game interview he will go 2-port in each match>goes 2-port in each matchwas this some kind of 5d chess or what
>>2401980he's a fat fuck
>>2402035just like wear looser pants?
do teenagers in Korea even care about this game? the players are all in their 30s, the fans are in their 30s, and the casters are in their 40s.are we just going to one day watch a 52-year-old soma win his 39th ASL?
>>2401980Midgame masturbation
Tastosis tvthttps://play.sooplive.com/artosis/293991729https://play.sooplive.com/artosis/293991729https://play.sooplive.com/artosis/293991729
flash 4-0 next
>>2402473The Terranny couldn't beat Reigning Champion Zerg Gigachad Soma even when cheating by playing random in ASL10. This is back when the Terranny was, allegedly, better, though he was previously eliminated by Zero and Effort, too, and when Soma was not yet Gigachad.
>>2402566soma is going to get his little boy cunt destroyed LOL
>>2402569If you play random and still lose all you titles should be annulled.
>>2401865Flash w/ hands used to be pretty good. Modern cripple that complains about wrist pain and doesn't practice 100 hours a week in a kespa gookhouse? Soma will eat him alive.
Reminder Flash said Snow was the opponent he feared the most. He thinks of Soma as even less of a threat than Light, he's pretty comfortable beating him as he knows his style being that they train together often.
>>2402754"It was real in my mind". See: >>2401245
>>2402769>"It was real in my mind"he literally said that
Why was Soma there on the Flash/Light day?https://youtu.be/zSHgXi9UnT0?si=-tc5afkKdeCYTpel&t=2184Someone translate
>>2402774Yeah I mean in his mind.
>>2402786To watch the best Starcraft player of all time, presumably.
i hope flash beats soma, but the meta seems too good for zerg at this time if they don't make any major retarded moves in the early game. if they just play mostly safe, solid games it seems tough for terran to find a way to finish it before defilers. especially with LE WRISTS of flash, i think if soma just drags each game out to late-game, he can cause flash to lose via attrition alone.
>>2403015its as easy as battle cruisers yamato cannoning zerg vespien gyser over and over for 5 minutes. clip this for when it becomes meta in asl 24
flash has to go down
>>2403015The Terranny lost his first TvZ game since ASL10 to Jaedong, who is by far the worst Zerg in the top tier, and lost it decisively: didn't destroy a single building or worker, just sat in his base and waited to die. Watch Jaedong's game vs Terranny Leta, it was a prolonged struggle, and Jaedong almost lost once or twice. Now watch Reigning Champion Zerg Gigachad Soma putting Terranny Leta on all fours. One can safely predict that the Terranny's fourth and final (God willing...unless he's starting to like it?) elimination from the ASL will be handed to him by a Zerg Chad for the fourth time. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
>>2402786Stalking his prey.
>>2401053Light had one star, Flash has fourWhat does the stars mean
>>2403197ASL wins
>>2403220kinda kino ngl
>>2403197rank in military
>>2401996he's so based
>flash doesn't feel like playing a bunch of long tvt games>so he just decides to notit's like light didn't even have a say
Leta should have won
>>2402786I got my eyes on the big one in the back.
>flash beat light 4-0what the fuck? the match was shorter than soma vs leta
>>2403380Soma>Flash>Leta>Light>Snow>Tulbo>Jaedong>Action
>>2403380the only shorter day was soma vs hero
>>2403380It was a brutal set. Light just got totally dominated. Flash engaged with less units, won, and then Light engaged with more units and lost.
>>2403303>"Sorry Light, but I have TvZ to practice"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKbTygS7vo8everyone is in awe
>it's the "tasteless desperately arguing for 5 minutes that Brood War is totally absolutely fr fr on god not dying" segment
>>2403720wouldnt it be more profitable to act like it's not a sure thing so "if you dont want starcraft to die out make sure you do your part and sign up to the patreon $$$"
>>2402786probably to film promo for the finals
it's not dying in korea (the only country that matters)
>>2403746the youngest player (Soma the INEXPERIENCED) is like 30
>>2403720there's a lot of money in it right now, a lot have players already made more money in various stuff than the first place prize for the asl
>>2403759Barracks is a very young 34, arguably younger than Soma
has soulkey ever recovered from his slump or is he washed for good?
