CTS: campaigntrailshowcase.com/campaign-trail/index.htmlNCT: newcampaigntrail.com/campaign-trail/index.html
A figure from West Virginia who's willing to be on your ticket.
How do you win against Markovic? I can win the Popular Vote but she always gets more seats...
>>2378719I got an idea for a mod, its the California 2026 governor race featuring Hilton Vs Swalwell, where all the bad shit about Swalwell gets leaked after the election.It would still be basically impossible for Hilton to win, even with more and more crazy shit about Swalwell being leaked.
>>2378731Need to screw up before leaving the party - fuck up the party bosses meeting, ignore Greek plight, smash some heads for resource development, etc.
>>2379492This might be rigged because there's no way. I have no idea how to unlock the third achievement or how to see the third video in the files.
>>2379504The final achievement i mean.
>>2378731>>2379504Seconding this, I keep floating around 120-140, and can't beat it.
It is rigged against you, so you need to agressively use your Shadow Cabinet ties to rig it back for yourself. If you do it correctly, a new option will appear for the final debate with Markovic. Heed Keneth Martin.
>>2379694I do that, Martin gives me a big boost at the end but the most i get is 148 seats>>2379504Maybe it's just rng and i just gotta repeat the same answers until i get my majority. Maybe it's just rng at this point.
>>2379706Tradition I'm part ofJust terrificGuys are seriousBasically trueCall me crazyOpen upWho caresNo commentClassic-styleSo, what?I don't seeWowRudyYeah, wellAbandon SocialismRidin' with Merten to the end
>>2379740This single image alone is a more deep and meaningful statement than anything churned out in the endless automastubatory cycle the main clique of TCT pushes out month-in month-out.
I didn't realise Razistorija had released. Gonna play this when I finish volunteering!
>>2379740I hate this guy.
>>2380159We should make concentration camps for these twitter posters.
>>2380172I agree!
Wasn't expecting to be hit with this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4o6_8Unj2mQ
what do you guys think about that duke mod releasing soon?
>>2380536Dukakis is boring as fuck
>>2380536which one?
>>2380536I don’t think about it cause it’ll sounds gay and boring
What mods that you guys like that have disappear? I'll start the Carly Fiorina mod.
>>2380864the ones where they use good grammar
TCT community is going to collapse soon
>>2381176One can only hope. It needs to be burned to the ground with salt poured on the ashes.
>>2381176I know there's some conflicts going on but can you clarify why you think so?
>>2381227Because I had a vision from the astral plane where the ghost of Adolf Hitler imparted me with a the gift of revelation
>>2381227Ninety-nine percent chance there are pedophiles being covered up by their "mods"
If you guys could make a mod what would it be about?
>>2382548enacting TND
>>2382548A Reform Party 2000 modThe guys who are making the Perot 1992 mod want to make one in the future but they lack experience
>>2382507Who cares?
>>2382507It's a game about roleplaying politicians. You expect there to be no pedophiles in the community?
The American Carnage update is coming this friday.
More 4th Turning screenshots
>>2383851
>>2383367Pedophilia is NOT GOOD in a community full of young autistic minors! Sorry to break it to you
>>2383852Looks kino
>>2383902Most of them are probably ugly and stupid and not worth diddling though. Have some self respect.
>>2382507Lmao
I’ll be surprised if this new AC update isn’t just bloat for bloat’s sake. All the new candidates look boring and Mike Gravel as the obvious surprise(?) would be a gimmick that’s been done to death, Zuckerberg would be better it could be like Steve Jobs in W. but not completely gay and shitty this time.
Infinite Carnage is out. Thoughts?
>>2385895It still sucks. Its more of an interesting time piece than a mod, a look inside the mind of a lib in the middle of the Biden admin. Thatchmaster is a genius for making his first mod about Trump, all his ESLisms are easily excused as trumpspeak, even when the parts that aren't trumpspeak showcase the same poor grasp of the english language.
>>2385931Isn’t he a limey?
>>2385895It’s a flop.>>2385942He’s Italian so I’ve heard.
>>2385942I assume so but his english is so bad that if he is in bongistan he’s probably some kind of immigrant
>>2385895>add a candidate tracker>it doesn’t give hints on how to get various opponentsLiterally what was the point? You still need to bash your head against the mod for hours or just follow a reddit guide to get specific opponents. Is Thatch retarded?
>>2385931Harris still wins in her historical results lol.
>>2385895Thatch’s first L (his corny dementia Reagan mod will probably be his second)
>>2385948That’s fair. I’d asked because I remember his account history (before he set it to private) included some UK subs, Denmark too but that was for a college paper he was writing
I’m so sick of these 538 endings in mods. This one doesn’t even make sense pop vote wise, worst one I’ve seen so far.
>>2385980Apparently Oprah is unbeatable which doesn't make much sense.
>>2385987The 'Further Reading' Mini-Achievements imply she is?
>>2385980Thatchmaster retarded the margins all over the place. You can win DC as Trump now against Cuban and Yang. This update feels like a troll with how incompetent it is.
>>2385990Huh.
>>2385959Hillary was always the only person to canonically lose to Trump. I’ve actually seen speculation before that AC is supposed to be a “double blind” due to that line you see at the very beginning “An Alternate History where Donald Trump was elected the 45th President of the United States”. The idea being that he’s seen as a total loser in a Hillary wins timeline, so someone in that alternate world would make the game with everyone except Hillary beating Trump, Hillary being the lone loser because she’d be seen as uniquely flawed for Trump to have actually become President in the first place.
>>2386004Interesting interpretation, but I always took the line to just be saying:>Trump seemed so uniquely unelectable and his victory so shocking it'd be something out of alternate history
>>2385980Crazy how much of a blatant ripoff the Oprah stuff is. Like its just Steve Jobs in W again, down to AC already having a final boss opponent (Big Mike Obama) that was way more interesting and ever so slightly more nuanced than the new final boss.
>>2386004I thought it was just a call back to how Hillary (at the time) was the only person who lost to Trump. The Harris Path came out when Astro & Co thought she would win in an absolute landslide and with Iowa too.
>>2386006>>2386012Part of the “Double Blind” theory also is that there is only one single canon result if Trump dies from Covid, Pete Buttigieg beating Pence. If Trump dies against Biden, Bernie, Warren, Hillary or Kamala you still see Pete in the historical section at the end of the game. This led to speculation that Trump dying and Pete beating Pence is the “one true canon” of AC
>>2386030It’s probably just a glitch and autists are looking at it like it’s a deep philosophical statement.>>2386010This update genuinely has some of the worst opponents I’ve seen in one of these big cyoa mods to date.
>>2386037If it was a glitch then it would’ve been fixed when Kamala was added. If you check the Code 2 you’ll see that it was something Thatch did on purpose
>>2385895American Carnage is still a bad mod. I don't know what any of the options do, it's so hard to read with all the Trump-speak, and it's just not an interesting time now giving how much crazier things have gotten since
What the fuck is with the Williamson/de Blasio path? What is even going on in it?
>>2386115I thought AC was okay when it first came out but this update is astonishingly bad. Really amateur work.
>>2386037Yeah, I was looking into them and they are all either very fringe or just not interesting at all.The whole Oprah path felt weak writing-wise and the Marianne/De Blasio variables was annoying to navigate.
>>2385895>pointless variable pop up that doesn’t help you at all>new opponents all suck>margins are terrible, downright laughable>bloated question count>gimmicky game-within-game that clearly took time away from making the actual mod enjoyable>fucking guy that made this mod can’t be assed to spellcheck and thinks his broken engrish is enriching the experienceCan’t say I’m really a fan, anon.
>>2386241>margins are terrible, downright laughableThe fact that the red wave opponents are wayyyy harder than the blue wave/blip ones is ludicrous. No way in hell would most of America vote for these people lmfao.
I feel like even on the subreddit the reception is frosty towards the update but nobody wants to be the one to say it and get downdooted. That or they’re really consoomer-brained and actually thought this was good, more power to them ig
>>2386244They feel like libslop candidates on the level Whitmer. So funny that she somehow wins 2024b with 422 EVs in a post two-terms Trump polarized world.
>>2386250>she somehow wins 2024b with 422 EVsThey don’t call her Stretchin’ Gretchen for nothing.
>>2386250That's a believable margin after two terms of Trump and running against Pence.
>>2386245There are two kinds of people who post on the subreddit, braindead consoomers or wannabe modders that pick and choose what they like to kiss ass and keep up appearances. You won’t get a genuine take out of either of them.
>>2385993>>2386241I haven’t played it but what is the explanation behind Trump getting anything above like 5% in fucking DC in literally any reasonable scenario
>>2386278that map is eye rape
there is no explanation, ac and w team mods fetishize retarded maps
>>2378719ABAR team is apparently doing a poll on what they are doing next.https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScPeMI5tYQwFDqR37wZK0vwqCTcmJIDW4Mcu3tiNudneYrChQ/viewform?usp=publish-editorPersonally I prefer the Perot incumbency concept
>>2386245The subreddit only kicks up a fuss when Mango gives them permission to, it’s like when Hope came out and the reception was positive until W team gave the all clear to brigade against it
>>2386278Vice had schizo maps like this and got torn apart for it, have got to love the double standards this community runs with.
does anyone have an interpretation for the razistorija true ending. yk the one w the servants of the aeons. hsr ref or smth. its fucking me up
>>2387693It's a complex metaphor for Todd Howard and Bethesda.
>>2387491Ehhhh this is at least a map that has a handful of states be weird. Vice’s issues was like half the states would make no sense with Cheney winning like California and Illinois and losing South Carolina to Obama. Even the first map of the polling you see in the beginning of the game doesn’t make sense in Vice. So I think completely unfair comparison.Maybe if the update had came out and fixed the margins, but Vice right now is just too slapdash to be compared positively to AC even with its many problems. It’s a mod copying everything else and with no vision of its own.
>>2387702nta but Trump winning DC is more inexcusable than any of the ones you mentioned, even by a plurality a Republican let alone Trump cannot get over 10% there these days, and AC makes no attempt at rationalizing it. It’s a pretty fair critique.
>>2387693I always interpreted it as history fully dying instead of just being in a rotting state.
>>2382548South Africa 2024, it would be fun to play around with the ANC, EFF, MK and the multi party charter parties
Which mod do you feel it's bias? I'll start Sundance.
>>2389226>20 years in power >the vice president is running, again>3rd party splitter from the left>recession (even if smaller)There is no fucking way they win that, Truman had way more on his side than that.It better be a red tsunami in 2012 there's no way the democrats should be able to hold onto power for that long after the 90's.It should be a supermajority red house, red senate, and majority red govenors by 2012.
>>2389310They're probably gonna have a really boring Republican candidate, probably a military leader.
>>2389536They'll run Petraeus but he loses bigly because of his affair since they need a libtard jerkoff mod. Or Christie but bridge-gate gets leaked earlier and he loses.
>>2389891Bridgegate happened in 2013, they could contrive something earlier though
>>2389226Sundance and that dogshit Church mod from earlier this year, most wanky shit ever.
>>2389536I would pick Ron Paul for a full shake up or Newt Gingrich, who in the Sundance timeline would be the most successful republican leader by default due to the 1994 mideterms making him significantly more powerful than otl.
>>2390015>Church modYou mean the Barbara Jordan mod?
>>2390018Someone repost the screenshot of what Shockonomics posted on Discord about it because that’s the most succinct and accurate summary of Year Zero you’ll ever see.
>>2390017Didn't both have a scandale?
>>2390044Ron Paul made some racist articles way back when but Gingrich doesn't have big ones from what I remember.Personally I think Gingrich would take it, he would likely campaign on a sort of second republican revolution, which would be a lot stronger than in our timeline as the GOP hasn't held the presidency in 20 years.
>>2390022Why don't you post it. Most people here aren't on the discord and aren't going to join it to find some vague post you mentioned.
Lowkey have to give Thatchmaster a lot of credit for his policy of basically keeping quiet on things and not making an ass out of himself. Both AC and ATW, while good overall, have several gaping holes that a critic could point out, but he’s cultivated a good enough reputation that people aren’t exactly lining up to critique him.
>>2390109he's a user who visits here to shill his mod and grievances.
The Duke mod just came out, first thoughts?
>>2390220If it were about David Duke I would've played it.
>>2386360How long do you think they'll wait before smearing and framing them too?
>>2390233depends on the mod they make, ABAR team so far appeals to the normies who like replayability, and don't mind humanizing their political opponents I can't tell you when it will happen, though I agree that it WILL happen, as the team doesn't follow the ideology of "compromise bad, progressives good" that the dictators that control much of the community have
How long until this duke mod gets astroturfed into the best mod ever? It's not bad but the tct dictators WILL claim it's one of the best.
>>2390496Is it even possible to get the canon outcome?
>>2390233Mango will get bored and make an enemy out of ABAR team just for the hell of it eventually, he is incapable of not being a glutton for drama he’ll create his own if need be>>2390496It’s an Astro mod so t-minus immediately, also it’s liberal wank slop which the subreddit goons for so they’ll gas it up
>>2390606>it’s liberal wank slop which the subreddit goons for so they’ll gas it upYou know Atwater won when even Democrats believe that the boring moderate, a close friend of Clinton going back to their time together on the board of governors, was actually a bleeding heart liberal
>>2390659Oh, sorry, I’d forgotten the average tct player is a retard that’s fallen for “the Democrats are moderate, bro” propaganda. I’ll see myself out then.
>>2390659The mod portrays Dukakis as pretty moderate. Ironically it feels like a less liberal version of Hope
I never understood why it's Rudy and not McCain for Sundance mod.
>>2390791He was a national hero and especially on Fox News after 9/11, it makes sense. He was the 2008 frontrunner too, before the Bernie Kerik scandal and his comical discomfort with retail campaigning were exposed. imo the latter is harder to mock when he's the hero of 9/11
>>2390719That’s because the Hope team did zero research and went off vibes they actually admitted to that that their research consisted of googling the entire time lol
>>2390832Makes sense, they could have made some slides for the Perot winning path by simply asking Pat Choate some questions directly.He's not that hard to contact from what I can tell, he's a frequent guest on a tiny podcast channel.
>>2385895It makes Trump more cool
Any chances of 2080: Children of Dusk & Swan Song guides on the Wiki please?
>>2391352Swan Song is easy to follow, but 2080: Children of Dusk needs it. I can't get the Hooper/Bernie secret endings, or Crowder.
What are your guy's thoughts on Dukakis mod?
>>2391451Yeah but this is for the competitionists like me who don't want to go through trial and error for hours at a time.
>>2391472Which answers appeal to each faction is easy to figure out, their themes are consistent. You can Benefit Check to see what the best answers are when they aren't four different straightforward faction ones.2080 has a much more complex structure.
astro is retiring
>>2391526Hallelujah.
>>2391526rip bozo
>>2391526What did he do?
>>2391526And nothing of value was lost
>>2391526He wanted to do a sequel to his Wofford mod so I’m taking this with a grain of salt, much as I’d like for it to be true
>>2391451The Hooper/Bernie/Crowder secret endings require you to choose any option other than "let them die" in the Nigeria flashback, then try to run for a fifth term as Jackson in Q3 and fail. On Q11, you should have an option to excoriate Jackson for trying to upend the rule of law and chart your own path. Then on Q26, go off script and say what you truly feel.
>>2391688He has like 5 to 7 more things he wants to do unless he genuinely wants to quit that bad right now, so Astro is either joking or going to come out with a retirement post soon
>>2391689Thanks. How do I get Crowder, though?
>>2391689I just tested this and don't see the chart my own path option.
>>2391730In the game code there are five different Jacksonist ideologies:Imperial JacksonistJacksonistNeo-JacksonistProgressive-JacksonistProgressiveWhich one you are is determined by your answers to the first few questions of the campaign.No aid from Nigeria -> Jackson resigns voluntarily -> Jackson relies on SOEs: Imperial JacksonistNo aid from Nigeria -> Jackson resigns voluntarily -> Jackson transitions to a free market: Imperial JacksonistNo aid from Nigeria -> Jackson refuses to resign -> Jackson relies on SOEs: JacksonistNo aid from Nigeria -> Jackson refuses to resign -> Jackson transitions to a free market: JacksonistSome aid from Nigeria -> Jackson resigns voluntarily -> Jackson relies on SOEs: Imperial JacksonistSome aid from Nigeria -> Jackson resigns voluntarily -> Jackson transitions to a free market: Neo-JacksonistSome aid from Nigeria -> Jackson refuses to resign -> Jackson relies on SOEs: Neo-JacksonistSome aid from Nigeria -> Jackson refuses to resign -> Jackson transitions to a free market: Progressive-JacksonistMaximum aid from Nigeria -> Jackson resigns voluntarily -> Jackson relies on SOEs: Neo-JacksonistMaximum aid from Nigeria -> Jackson resigns voluntarily -> Jackson transitions to a free market: Progressive-JacksonistMaximum aid from Nigeria -> Jackson refuses to resign -> Jackson relies on SOEs: Progressive-JacksonistMaximum aid from Nigeria -> Jackson refuses to resign -> Jackson transitions to a free market: ProgressiveBasically your brand determines which vice presidents are available. You must be a Progressive-Jacksonist or an unqualified Progressive to get Crowder.
>>2391733Did you get the feedback where you tried to run for another term as Jackson, only for the military to fuck off? And then, did you get any option to call Jackson a disgrace?
>>2391689>>2391730>>2391733>>2391749>>2391751hey. I don’t mean to intrude and interrupt the chitter chatter y’all are having but that mod fucking sucks donkey dicks and it’s clogging the thread so if you could stop talking and fuck off if it’s not too much trouble ofc we’d really really tots appreciate it. k thx!
>>2391777Its creator is petty and sick, too. This is the ending you get as the gay liberal candidate. It leaves a bad taste after what he did to Democracy's Martyrdomhttps://postimg.cc/gallery/3xSnMZV
>>2391816>This is the ending you get as the gay liberal candidategood, fuck her
>>2391777>>2391816Ignore these fags and continue on guys
>>2391816What did he do to Democracy's Martyrdom?
>>2391996I made a version that fixed the game-breaking bugs a month after they did nothing about them (It's STILL broken on CTS a year later, the version on NovaTCT is *mostly* fixed) and made fun of their libslop Trump derangement writing.I don't think I did anything else, except maybe pester Rubix for releasing a mod in a fashion THIS broken. Seriously, you can try to play DM on CTS and see how many paths you get before you get a game crash.
>>2391352When I get home from vacation I'll see if I can get them on the Wiki. I'm happy to see people care about it enough to warrant a guide, and yeah it's a bit complex. Maybe too complex idk :/
>>2392171You made changes to the writing on somebody else's mod without notifying its creator
>>2392171>nigga still seething about a gay browser game nearly two years laterYou’re a LOSER my guy please consult >>2391777 and follow instructions
>>2391816Fags, what do you do when he tells you you're going to hell?
>>2392615I don't think fantasizing about eternally torturing gay people or liberals is cool, or something the liberals and LGBT people on his server should be cool with
>>2391468Lightweight wet fart of a mod evidenced by the fact nobody is talking about it here lol
>>2392176Enjoy your vacation in the meantime. I recommend doing the Swan Song ones first then the COD one
>>2391816Literally what is wrong with this? Am I missing something? Like, yeah, it could be read as some "you will rot in hell fag" fantasy but it kinda makes sense, no? She just got blown tf out by (what I think are?) christian fundamentalists who don't like gays, and her attitude is just her being incredibly depressed by the loss and pessimistic about the future. Could be wrong though, idk, just feels like a nothingburger and a weird thing to get upset at.
>>2391468The only thing that comes to mind is meh. Playing as a micromanaging technocratic CEO-esque president is an interesting premise, but it mostly falls flat, largely due to Dukey himself just not being very interesting and his whole technocratic vision basically being Robert Reich getting let off the leash more than irl. Not to mention the inherit staleness of yet another incumbency sim.I do wonder if the mainstream tct community will ever admit how played out these types of mods are, or if they’ll continue to clammer for yet more mods where you do the same shit over and over again. Increase congress points to pass bills, pick whether to go conservative/moderate/liberal, stumble around in the mod creator’s vague understanding of geopolitics, go for different opponents for a few tries before getting bored and looking up a reddit guide, et cetera ad infinitum. TCT is in desperate need of something new, like when Mouths of the South released and showed that you can make a fun mod with cyoa and lots of content without doing the same format that PWH created years ago. Of course no similar mods have released since, and MotS’ creator followed his inaugural mod with an absolutely awful W ripoff that was so bad that even the retards on reddit gained sentience for a brief moment and shit on it relentlessly. Of course after some time said retards realized they need more slop in their fat retarded pig mouths so Obamanation is actually good now :). What was I talking about oh yeah Duke. Its meh. Not really even worth talking about now that I think about it. The tranny that made it looks like a clown though lol.
>>2392763Gay rights issues aren't part of the opposing campaign, this future America is so conservative that she's not even able to say she's gay publicly. The ending portrays that as God's will and her as burning eternally for being a gay liberal
>>2392842This is also the third time this creator has written "haha seethe lib" endings, the one he maliciously added to Democracy's Martyrdom and the Vance landslide loss ending in 2032SS are of the same variety. But this goes beyond calling people Redditors, into frankly demented fantasies about people he doesn't like burning for eternity
>>2392244God who cares. The chink is a lolcow (as is most everyone associated with opentct) but I cannot think of anything more faggy than caring about him changing a couple lines of text in a broken shitty mod without telling the retard that originally put that garbage into the world. If the original creator cares so much about it he should have fixed it himself or just released a mod that actually functioned from the beginning.
>>2392853The funniest thing about the whole DM debacle is that the original creator didn't even bother checking what the random guy he let fix up his mod actually changed. Like it wasn't until after swansong that he realized his mod got chudded up. Imagine being that lazy lmao
>>2392850I don't care about the feelings of leftists so why should I give a shit?
>>2391468It, like almost every mod that has come out before it, is just meh. It's fine - boring - cliche, even. The writing felt flat and uninteresting - maybe it comes with the territory of Mr Tankman's propensity towards being a boring managerialist, but I never felt like I was seeing things from his perspective. I only half felt like I understood what I was doing, with winning or losing just feeling like a gamble, and good God is that background an eyesore; but there was nothing that made me really hate it, and I think that was the problem. Do people not get bored of this shit? An unending churning cycle of mods wherein you click the correct button to make the Congressional Relations variable number tick up, so you can pass a big bill and get your Major Achievement variable to go up like a chimp from a lab experiment, so just maybe you can see the 4 unique questions each different opponent comes with? Every single mod does this now. It feels like a color-by-numbers game where all you need to do is pick whichever dem you think could've saved the world in your irony-poisoned liberal fantasies and have them run through the cavalcade of "healthcare reform, some ongoing war, a red wave midterms" again (Obamanation, ATW, TTNW, Hope) - or maybe if you feel lucky, it'll be an excerpt from the writer's Substack about how this Republican Hitler is so much worse than the last Republican Hitler, who only exists to justify the next Republican Hitler. (W, AC, MtE). It's a rape of the soul enacted by people who *really* think JFK would've gone down as America's greatest President had he not gotten his brains splattered in Texas. Anyway it's a middle of the road 5/10 mod that'll be forgotten before summer.
How does a 4chan thread have more insightful and honest opinions of the current state of tct modding than the actual people on the discord who make reviews about mods. Holy shit, tct is being beat by a website not even made to specifically discuss it.
>>2392900I guess I still think AC is a fantastic variation of this because it doesn't really matter if you get anything passed or not. Instead, it's more like you click how you want to be successful as President (which is more true to the modern presidency which is very focused on executive orders). Also, despite the fact that the mod seethes about Trump, it still makes you feel like a badass if you like Trump. I guess it goes to show it's always more fun to play a villain than a hero and that goes for mods as well.I also think Y of Korea, despite being a classic incumbency sim, felt like a tremendous breath of fresh air thanks to it being about a foreign country. So I think that's something we could very much use more of. Like why isn't there a Milei or Pedro Castillo or Lula or Petro? It would still have the same seething about the right but it'd at least have something new to say.
>>2392833I like Obamanation it’s the only cyoa mod that has a sardonic wit to it
>>2392833>even the retards on reddit gained sentience for a brief moment and shit on it relentlesslyThat’s a point in its favor if anything. I, for one, am shocked the mod that shit on Obama the entire time and was not liked by Redditors.
>>2392966yeah yeah keep slopping it up man you are so much better than redditors because you dont like obama
>>2392972Yes, I am in fact. Thank you for noticing!
Tried playing this after seeing these threads on here for a while and I'm not sure it even counts as a game. It's more like a multiple choice quiz.
>>2392930It's Discord & Reddit we're talking about so...
>>2392972Got a problem with that, guy? Obamanation chads, take formation!
>>2391468Impressively awful. Its so barren of any soul that it feels more plain than non-mod original CT elections. Literally the only parts that got a rizzle from me was the metatextual spite against Clinton and the bit where Byrd gets you the public option, later of which felt like a weak ass reference to TTNW. Its just so dry, the characters don't feel like actual characters and instead just quiz muppets, nothing interesting happens (it does the bare minimum to be a CYOA mod), difficulty is annoying and prohibitative for replaying different choices. Does it have a message? NoIs it any fun to play? NoDoes it have any cool things happen? NoDoes it innovate technologically? No, and also the cards are an awful way to represent opponent pileWill astro win a trifecta for coding, writing and making mods this year anyway? Yes
>>2392833>Of course after some time said retards realized they need more slop in their fat retarded pig mouths so Obamanation is actually good nowwhy is bro so heated over a browser game
>>2392885That post was for LGBT people and liberals in his server, including Hope team members who joined. I'd like them to know who their "friends" are
>>2392615Reverse image searches are super easy, Naimina
>>2393140Praying for you anon. Christ always loves you and his door is open for you whenever you wish. Whatever's going on in your life or whatever you did, there is nothing you can do to change the fact that God's door is always open and he wants to invite you to his kingdom.
>>2391468The Dukakis side of “Rock Us, Dukakis” is a better experience than “Duke”
>>2392934>Like why isn't there a Milei or Pedro Castillo or Lula or Petro?All the people who make mods are American libs aged anywhere from mid-teens to late twenties, that's why.
>>2391816>>2392615Touch grass dude
>>2392930Don’t kid yourself chud, there is but a slither of reasonable and constructive criticism being levied here, the majority of this thread is nothing but scornful rejects and never-beens pissing themselves silly that they’ve been blacklisted or will never achieve a modicum of the popularity other mods they vulgarly lambast here have made. A model example of impotent rage in action if there ever was one. Stop trying to uncover the faults of others and look in the mirror for a change.
>>2393709First of all, we know who this is. Second of all, stop quoting the MJ and get back to making some shitty slop mod the tct cattle will love after it releases in soon+3 weeks
>>2393709This thread is in a more disappointing state than the Reddit.
>>2392850Alright, yeah, with the additional context and his response I see your point. I still think at a first glance it looks pretty innocent and just adds some to the narrative of the mod, but yeah, once you know it does seem like plausible deniability to some extent. However, this is still kind of a nothingburger desu, at the end of the day it's just some random guy online bitching about gays, who cares.
>>2393837Bruh I did not type "desu" wtf is this
>>2393839Lurk moar, newfag.It's a filter. Extends to several random terms.I wonder if you still can't say s o y b o y. Let me check basedboy.
>>2393970Nice the filter is still there.I used to see that everywhere, pissed so many people off.
>>2393839shaking my head right now to be honest family
Are there any other good election games?
>>2394053Social Democracy?
>>2394067Why would I want to play as the bad guys?
>>2394092Because larping as the evil guys is fun :)
>>2394067Would love a Nazi/Fascist version of this.
Should I start my own version of NovaTCT?
>>2394863Please do anon, we really need more shitty spinoff sites! Bonus points if you pull the same lolcow antics as galen and the chink
>>2394863Probably not. The whole idea for NovaTCT was to be a place to host mods not under the control of the cartel. The problem was nobody but Galen and the Swansong guy wanted to (or had the ability to) make mods for it. A new website won’t change that. People just gotta dig into the code and learn how to make mods.
>>2393796desu this thread basically is the reddit at this point. There has got to be less than 5 posters here (because lets be honest there can't be more than like 30 unique anons in this thread) that didn't just come from the reddit to bitch about drama. I miss the days before Tom or opentct.
>>2393709Mostly true, but frankly speaking even the big modders that have achieved "popularity" have nothing but scorn for the tct community. Like I don't think there is a single member of the W team or their hangers on that doesn't constantly express their hatred for the average tct redditor/discord user. Even wholesome chungus astro eagerly derides redditors whenever the opportunity presents itself. Maybe it has more to do with the nature of tct. Braindead simple gameplay + ridiculous time investment (especially for modern mods) + being completely community driven + politics is a recipe for misanthropy whether you primarily post on Xitter or 4channel. Really everybody should just stop caring about this garbage, just leave this horrendous community and "game" behind. Nothing good has ever come from tct.
>>2394926>Braindead simple gameplay + ridiculous time investment (especially for modern mods) + being completely community driven + politics is a recipe for misanthropy whether you primarily post on Xitter or 4channel.Holy trvke. The only thing missing from the formula is that the community is 90% underage hoi4 players.
>>2394926They act like they didn't make the community so retarded, I can't feel bad or agree with them because of that. You make the problem, you solve it. If you can't deal with the fact you made them so braindead, you're probably also braindead.
>>2394926>4channel.That's a throwback, I remember how paranoid everyone was when that split was introduced. Then it was just randomly ditched. I guess the attempt to attract more 'clean' advertisement didn't work out.
>Decide to browse /vst/ for once on a lark>There's been a Campaign Trail thread here all alongI'd like to thank whatever anon made the let's play Campaign Trail threads back on /v/ a few months ago for introducing me to this redditslop. I genuinely enjoyed playing a lot of these.Duke recently came out and I had a good time with that one too, though it's hard as balls. If you get the first few questions wrong, you have spiraled out of control without realizing it and can't possibly catch up in the 20 questions that follow. Game outskilled me hard.Also, I'd be curious to know the politics of this general. I'm socially leftist but I imagine I'd be in the minority here, as is the case with the entire website.>>2394053SuzerainAnd the DLC, Suzerain: RiziaCannot recommend those games enough. They're KINO. You can roleplay so many different political systems. Not perfect, but certainly more high quality than these mods.
>>2396689>Also, I'd be curious to know the politics of this generalI'm a pretty big fan of Adolf Hitler, personally.
>>2396694Let's meet halfway and agree that an Adolf Hitler mod would be kino.
>>2396689>I'd be curious to know the politics of this general.I'm a socialist and a nationalist in the tradition of bernie sanders and adolf hitler
>>2396696That already exists. Its not hosted on any of the sites because the mod creator is worried about angela merkel popping a cap in his ass but the codes are floating around somewhere on the reddit.
It's on NovaTCT but IIRC under the Banned Mods section.>>2396830
>>2396689>Also, I'd be curious to know the politics of this general.Economically left wing, socially right wing but not racist. Authoritarian streak. Catholic stuff, really.
>>2394863Should try to make a outright archive of mods not on the other sites.
>>2397711That's one of the intentions but we try to reach out to the original mod makers where applicable. Any mods you know of you'd like to archive?
>>2396689Zionist white nationalist whos' family is primarily from Liberia
>>2396689deeply retarded
>>2396689democratic socialist
>>2392833I’m baffled by people like you anon who describe Obamanation in the same terms as they do the other Democrat mods when narratively they’re tonally incompatible. I respect Obamanation because it’s one of the few Democrat mods that doesn’t pander to the dominant demsoc audience that plays this game, it clearly has disdain for both sides, both dominant ideologies of the DemParty, and the country itself, but the audience for this game can’t differentiate cynicism from nihilism and get hysterical when the leftist option doesn’t lead to insta linguistic fellatio and dopamine injection. Games like Hope and Icarus simply service the players of this game’s filthiest power fantasies (worse in the case of Hope which makes no attempt to criticize or challenge Bill Clinton, the belief that lionizing someone as rancid as him would draw equal ire would seem obvious, but you’d be wrong as is manifest, and as I am aware the blacklisted lot that are often on the 4chan boards here should feel shame in their participation. Mangolith was correct, spite of my proclivities to believe otherwise, that Hope is the most nakedly cynical mod in this game’s history and inarguably its most morally reprehensible) and they evoke little more than repulsion for me, self-evident why they’re more popular among them but that doesn’t equal out to being “good”, the problem with TCT (you deride the players, yet an equal problem present within you as is accepting their conceits as fact while articulating your argument) as a community is it actively discourages challenging the player’s pov unless it’s to browbeat them into obeying the worldview of the “progressive” demsoc one, it’d be easy to make a mod where you are Barack H Obama and you’re a plucky go-getter that’s fighting “the system”, this would garner quick success and few pushback (see: little big man). I applaud the effort to villainize him be it satirical (the disdain for him is in masquerade).
>>2398082>its good becuz democrats r badWorst post ITT and thats saying something. There was nothing brave or subversive about obamanation. It was a shitty W clone made during the time where the retards in the community were convinced that W was a satirical depiction of a Daily Kos lib's perspective on dubya's presidency. So obamanation was a satirical depiction of a facebook republican's perspective on obama's presidency. Only most of the way through obamanation's development the W team said in no uncertain terms that W was totally unironic, so the obamanation devs slapped together some tepid criticism from the left (drone strikes bad wow how brave) that doesn't even follow the basic conceit of the mod (obama's presidency from the perspective of a crazzzzzy tea party republican). So obamanation exists in a limbo between tea party/conspiracy rhetoric that doesn't understand what the big conspiracies even were at the time and bland drone strikes bad tier critique. This is without getting into the ridiculously bloated question count, the pointless addition of the great recession happening after obama is elected (making obama's identical supermajority not make any sense), and the godawful opponent list that makes Duke's look like high art. But like I said retards need more slop so all is forgiven. And then theres retards like you on here that think obamanation is good because its not like other "democrat mods". God how embarrassing. You really should kill yourself.
>>2398129>obamanation exists in a limbo between tea party/conspiracy rhetoric that doesn't understand what the big conspiracies even were at the timeThat’s literally an accurate representation of the era lol
>>2398129Actually anon, the point of divergence is genius. Let me count the ways. It forces Barack H Obama into a place of active engagement with the situation whereas he avoided it irl solely because it happened preceding his regime, so even though he didn’t do anything to effectively mitigate the crisis after the fact, as we know, he could always go “well we inherited this economy”, as he did. Having the situation unfold before him places him in a spot where he can decide proactively what should be done not only allows the mod to critique his action but his relative inaction in our reality. In our series of events Barack Hussein Obama’s economy reckoned with the criticism that the economy wasn’t improving fast enough, it’s a much bolder and much more interesting question to posit “if the gears and levers were all at his command what would *he* have done” (ie no GW Bush to bailout General Motors before him/use GW Bush as fall guy, no Lehman bailout before him/use GW Bush as fall guy, etc). That places him in the hot seat, effectively erodes the potential for him to avert blame, and it shifts the emphasis on Hussein Obama the man to where he’s now incapable of evading blame. This is what we in the biz call an active protagonist. I have no comprehension or care about tabloid behind the scenes drama same as I wouldn’t care what motivated Chaucer to write the Canterbury Tales the way he did, I, anon, appreciate the art for what the art is. If that motivated Obamanation to more accurately define how the Tea Party was truly an amorphous blob controlled by corporate Republican interests while also housing discontent anti-big government libertarians who did oppose drone strikes (not inherently a leftist critique as you’re alleging) than I say bravo. Bravo, indeed!
>>2398209>not understanding or portraying the actual conspiracies of the era is accurately representing the eralol>>2398240I'm not even going to bother engaging with these mental gymnastics when members of the original obamanation team have come out and said the whole point of divergence was just there to be like W's no 9/11 and they didn't have any deeper reason for adding it. Some members of the team genuinely forgot/didn't even know the divergence existed
>>23981299/11 not happening in W doesn’t factor into that mod at all either, most people don’t even realize it didn’t happen when they first play it
>>2398300>lolImagine looking at the GOP during the Obama era and arguing they weren’t all over the place ideologically. So yes, it’s a pretty accurate representation of the eralol
>>2398317imho Bush being able to pass social security reform despite having a Dem Congress is more logically objectionable than just assuming Al Franken got a few more votes in Minnesota but whatever (although iirc Paul Wellstone is alive in Obamanation so that point is moot)anyway you’re all fighting over a browser game and that’s very gay, go be productive and pick up trash on the side of a highway or something
>>2398300The anon you're replying to is enjoying the game as is while you're lost in the discord drama sauce. People make good art accidentally all the time.>>2398317It might be something you wouldn't notice on a first playthrough, but it absolutely colors the entirety of the mod.
W. was better under the Daily kos interpretation.
>>2398129>were convinced that W was a satirical depiction of a Daily Kos lib's perspective on dubya's presidencyLiterally what the original announcement post for the mod stated. >the W team said in no uncertain terms that W was totally unironicThe W. team consistently, repeatedly, contradicted each other. You always got a different answer depending on the team member that you asked, there was no cohesion. Eventually QPQ got sick of being contradicted by people saying it was satirical, and so you had other people including Mango go back and delete old reddit comments they’d made
Does anyone know how to get Michael Bloomberg in American Caranage?
>>2398129If there’s any good left in the world you’ll be contracting dick cancer for writing this.
>>2398737Shut up and eat your slop little piggy
>>2398813Learn a new fucking word.
>>2396689Leftkkkom
>>2398590This. Stuff like the Steve Jobs shit are cast under a better light if you think they’re joking and aren’t being serious, and then you had them get braver and insert more annoying bullshit in later updates like the Susan Sarandon Oscar ending and changing the gay marriage ending 5 times over because of Reddit feedback. W is the only mod that only got worse the more they updated it.
>>2398939>tno dev makes mod worse the more they touch it>picrel
>>2396830>>2397033Thanks for the heads up. Playing it now. So far, it's kino, though the images are broken.Looks like I went for the anti-Jew route too soon, even tough near the entirety of the map says that antisemitism is very high.
>Got BTFO on my first run>Everything seemed to be going well on the second runAAAIIIEEE
Third time is the charm. Good mod.
I’m still confused as to how Icarus gets labeled as a Democratic power fantasy when Clark can only achieve his grandest goals if he’s extremely lucky and doesn’t push for certain beliefs like gay marriage–most playthrough involve him getting cucked at least a bit (and sometimes a whole lot). Like, sure, the mod’s thesis is partially that Dems should be more ambitious, but at the same time, the creators clearly recognize that there’s a time and place for it and you can get electorally raped by most Republican candidates.
>>2399551I don’t like the mod cause the writing is dogshit and written by someone who just found out what Greek mythology was a month ago in their history class personally
>>2399594>”uuuh dc is where the important people live that moost mean it’s like uuuh…”>>”olympus!!!!!!1!”>”uuuh democrats need to be more wholesum poggers but they afraid dat moost mean they r like…”>>”icarus!!!!1!!!”brb. going to make a Trump 2024 incumbency mod where he’s King Lear and I shove a Shakespeare reference up your ass because there’s a tenuous connection I thought of for 5 seconds
Can we all stop fighting and just agree that that the problems with obamanation and W. are both caused by the W team -since obamanation is just a spiritual successor to W.-
>>2378719Ross for Boss comes out next week, the first big Perot/Reform mod.
>>2399699It looks like complete ass but I hope people enjoy themselves
>>2398630You have to get a blue ripple (Neither win or blue wave in the midterms), be populist and get more than 7 wins. I recommend for you to checkout the wiki, it's pretty helpful for you to get the trickier candidates :D https://thewikitrail.miraheze.org/wiki/American_Carnage
>>2399731The unfettered autism to include every single Wikipedia presidents list ending combination for the Hope and All the Way pages on that wiki is genuinely one of the most embarrassing things I’ve ever seen. If I had a son and found out he was doing that in his spare time I’d beat him.
>>2378719I want an LPF path for 2003 Netherlands.It would be cool to be able to pick a different leader like Eerdmans considering his return to national politics.Also the concept of playing a party who has to deal with the switch from being revolutionary to domesticated would be interesting.
>>2385895Now that's its been two weeks and everything's settled, what do we think?
>>2399992I still don't get the Schultz endings, especially the one about him being a spoiler where he isn't.
>End of HistoryThe first question made me way more interested in playing a alt-hist Soviet CYOA then an American election. Managing a dysfunctional post August coup USSR fighting a civil war in it's border territories all the while deciding economic and political reforms as you fight off inside power struggles would be so kino. Any idea if the mod maker is planning to develop this?
>>2400326The only shit astro will be doing is probably some mini update as usual from when he does expansion updates (2024/DSA) to 1996 EOH before he releases 2000 EOH
>>2400326If you want to play a mod about a successful August Coup USSR you're better off playing Red Dusk on Hoi4.
>>2400452I've played it a bunch, a very cool setting though the mod itself could do with a lot of polish and improvements. It's the sort of alternate timeline that I think is very underrated and prone to representing incorrectly. Seeing Yanayev's face in Campaign Trail with those background graphics really made me wanting more of Soviet sim in this format. Crisis in the Kremlin scratches this itch but it's very different gameplay wise.>>2400343>2000So there is a canon winner of the mod? Is it Wilson or Wofford?
What is the most successful path for Trump in Infinite Carnage where he does everything he wants in office?
>>2400530>canon winnerTake a guess.
>>2400557The Mike Gravel Path?
>>2400578Ross Perot
>>2400557Obama? In order to get her you have passed 2/3 of your major bills at a minimum (including fully repealing Obamacare), dodge all attempts at impeachment, and either do a government shutdown to force the wall, or flood sanctuary cities with ICE.I guess also Avenatti but he requires you getting 2 impeachments while passing all your major bills.
>>2399784https://www.reddit.com/r/thecampaigntrail/comments/1taepw0/does_anybody_get_reform_presidents_in_hope/You laugh but people will actually follow guides so they can get a picture and a piece of text to change. It’d be one thing if the endings actually acknowledged these presidents in the endings, but they don't. The word “slop” gets thrown around until it loses all meaning these days, including this thread, but those Wikipedia list endings are the epitome of slop to me.
>>2400808Hope is the worst campaign trail mod imo and representative of everything wrong with the game; it’s got nothing to say, gameplay is piss easy, endings slapped together so you can get glup shittos like Dodd Frank, Jerry Seinfeld and Wayne Newton as presidents, and through it all, it still has the gall to pretend to be smarter than it is. The people that play this game just want comfort food but *will* act like pseuds cause junk like TTNW is Dostoyevsky to them.
>>2400725>her
>>2400816>gameplay is piss easy,the fuck do you mean 'gameplay,' it's a questionnaire?
That’s literally the entire point of the mod, though. Clark is a legitimate genius, but mixed in with that is a tendency for grandiose visions (like his light speed fixation) which he manifests as imagining himself like a Greek mythological character.“He is his own action figure, believing himself to be above the fray of party and congressional politics. He is the Twelve Knights of the Round Table, or the Three Wise Men, all wrapped in one dominating personality.”The creator of the mod has explicitly and publicly said it multiple times. It’s *supposed* to be a shallow allusion.
>>2400879amazing, the creator did the meme
>>2400879He could’ve just not done Greek mythology bullshit at all if doing so was pointless to begin with. Was you admitting it’s there for no reason supposed to make me like it?
>>2400816>comfort foodshut the fuck up franklin
>>2400977the greek mythology stuff is retarded as Clark is not connected to it in any way
4th Turning continues to be in progress, 21 questions finished so far, this might hit 60 or maybe 80 questions by completion. Will release the 2024-2028 portion as a demo when it's ready.
>>2402258ebin
>>2396689Economically - Teddy Roosevelt, FDR, Harry Truman, LBJSocially - Eisenhower, Ford, Carter
Charlie Brown mod is pretty good, though the dark ending feels out of character.
What do we think about the current clique?
>>2402887what is there to say that hasn't been said?
>>2402758Anything Peanuts post like 1990 is just slop, Schulz was fine and golfing. He'd never have written something this cynical about his characters, which I suppose is the joke.
>>2402758StrawberryMaster is GOATed and the only big modder in the community that’s not a narcissistic asshole. Also can guarantee Mango will steal the county map mechanic for P2024 and take the credit for it.
The Snoopies mod is phenomenal lolA bit too cynical for me, but there's definitely soul to it. Just simple fun. The CYOA elements almost feel overkill, but I'm not complaining cause they're well done.Only big downside is that it does the classic retarded thing of having additional ending slides that have nothing to do with the campaign. It's bad enough to have a normal campaign mod start talking about Breaking Bad or Buffy the Vampire Slayer as if you give a shit, but it's especially stupid when it's for a Peanuts mod. The fuck do I care that Naz won a gubernational race in 2004 or that George W Bush is a baseball coach? The optional slides should have obviously been about the rest of the cast adjusting to the results of the election. Having said that, the end slide about Michael Jackson being cast to play Willy Wonka in the Tim Burton movie was amusing, so I actually read that one.>Playing in the Streets by the Pet Shop Boysbased
Why does a student council election decide whether Bush or Gore wins the national electionthe entire campaign is a margerald
>>2403308>A bit too cynical for meThe players for this game DESPERATELY need to shut the fuck up about calling everything cynical, it’s fucking politics it’s inherently cynical, how delusional are you?
>>2403323disagree + you smell
>>2403326Touch a boob that isn’t your own
>>2403323Honestly, the word for it isn't even cynical, in this instance, it's more just straight up melancholic.And no, I don't think every mod being like that is good. At the end of the day I'm here to have fun. Every mod being about depression gets old.
>>2403340I find that sentiment infantile and didn’t ask to hear it either, now go away and play some happy slop, seems like Hope is more your speed
>>2403344Too bad, faggot. You chimped out at me first.
>>2403346Suck. My. Balls.
