>Recreational Civ6 hate thread #999999

>>2411633
Are you from the past? I hope you haven't discovered Civ 7 yet.

>>2411633
you probably didn't like how board gamey 6 is compared to 5 perhaps maychance?

>>2411633
>have over 1,000 hours logged into Civ4
>play Civ5
>Something feels off, probably cause it takes a little getting used to
>Play for approximately 30-ish more hours
>Never play it again after

>>2411633
its vice versa for me

>>2411700
>have over 1,000 hours logged into Civ3
>play Civ4
>Something feels off, probably cause it takes a little getting used to
>Play for approximately 30-ish more hours
>Never play it again after

Ed Beach is from the school of high complexity low depth. His solution to every design problem is to throw another system at the wall to provide busy work. He turned the franchise into a puzzle game.

Instead of simple decisions with deep ramifications like "library or granary?", you plan the entire city layout with "map tacks" in the year 2000BC based on the maps features.

This is his legacy.

>>2414439
And then your pre planned city layout gets completely ruined because you discovered horses on the map and you can no longer put a district there.

>>2414229
The Civ3 vs Civ4 fight its so retarded obviously the two are very different games by design.

>>2411633
>Why is this game so bad?
Be Ed BIATCH.
Take civ v and turn into a boring simcity game with tourism/city state stuff being stupid busywork.
Make civ 6 revolve around a hundred systems that barely interact with each other and just give you busywork.
Get high while playing humankind and make civ 7 about civ switching. When doubts start to appear double down.
Man single handedly fucked up anything past civ 4.Including BE, since he was still responsible for that.
Also Sid, mogged him with civ rev,a simple console game game he designed in a afternoon.

>>2411633
For me, and I have a similar experience, I think I just love 5 and its mechanics so much that I don' have a need for a game which is similar, but different.
It doesn't help that I personally don't like the changes like the reworked movement, the artstyle, the policy cards, the builders, or the districts.

>>2411633
Whats the best/most classic Civilization game for a casual total war/command and conquer player?

>>2417145
I'd say 5. It's the most visually clear, has the least micro-managing, and the way warfare works there is somewhat more intelligible since it's all about building front lines of units and good tactical deployment of ranged units.
It can be a bit annoying to get working on Windows 11, but it's nothing too bad if you just follow a guide.

>>2417154
Nice. Is it on steam?

Im pretty tech illiterate so i just use steam for all my PC gaming now.

>>2417145
2 easily

It's available as "free civ", you can google it.

>>2417204
autist answer

>>2411633
Extremely unintuitive game mechanics
The average casual doesn't notice it but my god does civ 6 have a bone to pick with strategy gamer common sense
Also the AI is dogshit, like literally brain damaged some of the worst I've ever seen

>>2414439
Civ 6 is a deep game, the MP scene proves that. It's just not deep in a way that appeals to anyone who hasn't already sunk a hundred hours into studying its meta

>gsme barely started
>see barbarian camp
>send my warrior and slinger to remove it, my scout not far behind
>slap the enemy scout on the way, no detection
>barbarian camp goes into overdrive, every turn printing horse riders, until there are 5 of them
>look around, single cattle tile 2 turns away is the culprit
>slinger dead, warrior barely alive, scout is defensive mod, will die turn later
>barbarian camp prints more horse fuckers
this shit happens maybe once in blue moon but it is aggregating, there is no counterplay until you have spearmen

>>2417226
where do you think we are?

>>2417164
Yep it's on Steam.
I think, if you have windows 11, the only start-up thing that you may have to do is navigate the file explorer to find a folder you, for some reason, sometimes have to delete.

>>2411633
Sucks to suck

>>2411633
civ 6 is the only version I've played so I have absolutely no clue what civ5 players talk about hating

>>2417790
Mainly it's the artstyle.
There's also complaints about 6 being too micro-heavy, having bad leader/civ choices, and tall gameplay being harder.
But 5 has plenty of issues too

Is 7 good yet?

>>2419366
Nope. It's design is fucked from the core, even doing away with civ-switching can't save it.
Everything from the eras system, to the visual design, to the way buildings work just make it an inferior civ game.

>>2417303
Dude, who the fuck can train an AI to play civ 6? Just look at the game. Such a task is hopeless.

>>2419827
If you play AI on hardest difficulty it's automatically better than most players

>>2419366
it never will be

>>2419366
>>2420105
It will be when 8 comes out and turns out to be EVEN WORSE!

It doesn't matter which Civilization game I try, I can never beat the game.
No, Revolution doesn't count.