Bratty Girls EditionGeneral Guide Mastery Set Effects, Mastery Drop List etc:https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1349483727Finding Masteries, Modules, and Troublemakers:https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1971619284Mastery/Module Descriptions:https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2037290423Taming and Beasts Guide:https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2020436206Farming Guide:https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2025825529Machine Guide:https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2025828272Troubleshooter Encyclopedia:https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2064539292Bonds Guide:https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2217708612Equipment/Affix Guidehttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2247536935:Legendary Items and where to find them:https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2578537876100% Achievements Guide:https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3013345823Masteries in Order of Appearance:https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3449881683Banished Children news updates status:https://steamcommunity.com/games/470310/announcements/detail/654835706915456842?snr=2___Previous: >>2385072
i fucking love this game bros. when do i get my next qt party member after Leton?
>>2420194to be clear: Leton is a faggot, i'm asking when a qt girl is going to join
>>2420194Hold out hope for /ourqueen/.
>>2420059I exclusively used sweeper.
>>2420200is she from a DLC or will i get her soon
>>2420212It's a free dlc, you should just get it now.
>>2420214well i have the DLC's but don't really know how they work, isn't it just stuff after the main story? i'm a few missions after getting Leton i forget what chapter
>>2420219DLCS are just extensions to the game, once you finish the base game you'll get to the dlcs.
>>2420194You get Bianca and Alisa at the start of DLC1 (White Lion and Black Witch), after the end of the base game>>2420219Leton joins at the end of chapter 5, chapter 6 is the end of the base game and the start of DLC1, chapter 7 is entirely DLC1, and chapter 8 is entirely DLC2 (Crimson Crow).Chapter 6 goes by pretty quickly since it's mostly solo or small group missions that are story-focused.
>>2420265thanks anon that was all very helpful and exactly what i wanted to know
>>2420196I will not stand for this slander of such a righteous and mighty individual. Leton is the most loyal and honorable character in the entire game, every decision he makes is based around what would be best for his friends. It's not really his fault that he was put in a no win scenario where his best option in life was becoming a special ops agent for the corrupt Valhalla government.If anything I feel like the character that really falls apart in this game is Ray, Heixing is dying of the heart transplant and all Ray can think about is quitting her association with her supposed family and spending time with her friends, while Leton is desperately searching for ways to save him.
>>2420280my problem with him is that he's ugly
>>2420280Does Ray even know about that?
>>2420208what a heroic looking pepe
>>2420288Ray never really asks or presses Heixing on his past and mostly just feels sorry for herself when she honestly has had it better than any of the other Alley kids, and then just goes back to her new circle of friends and leaves Carter to Leton and Heixing. Honestly feels like she's being written out of the storyline entirely with how they're handling her by the end of Crimson Crow. She has no real connection to any of the major story beats outside of her Alley connection and even that connection is more or less gone by the end of the first game with that story thread 100% focusing on Carter, Leton and Heixing. Even Turk and Na'am seem more relevant than her.
hopefully one of the dandylion devs got a girlfriend so we can have romance in banished
>>2420320dandy are all TRVECELs
>>2420320>koreanunlikelyThe incel epidemic, gender wars, and hypergamy are 10x worse over there than in the west and the devs are probably all at least in their mid-to-late 30s at this pointalso I would find it hard to self-insert as any character that isn't Albus so I wouldn't really care much for romance in BC
>>2420331surely they all made some decent money since then so maybe not all hope is lost, stay optimistic desu
>>2420333>surely they all made some decent money since thenThey already had to delay work on the sequel once already to make a second DLC and all the outfit packs so they could get the funds to continue their work on Banished Children.
>>2420335yeah because they spent all their money learning the ins and outs of slaying pussy so they can give us romance in Banished Children
>>2420287He just hides how bishie he is
>>2420208A lot of people do. I think that anon is just extrapolating his own experience. In joint drills Heixing's class split is about 60/40 Ranger/Sweeper. They're both unfair classes at max capacity, and Sweeping Fire go brr
>>2420383She's so cool...
>>2420383Kylie is best fish
>>2420280>t. freeze nade abuserthe 3 Alley boys really make a point of not telling Ray anything, then Kylie does the same, then dandy write her out of the plot so we won't even get a qt gyaru grenadier in the sequelit's not fair reeeeee
>>2420280Ray gave me head near the back of a convenience store. How could I not call her best girl?
>>2420413The whore of WindWall strikes again...
>>2420287Dandy has a rather unique artstyle but idk what the fuck they were smoking when they came up with leton's design. Ever since I got all the costumes I keep him on the secret agent skin 24/7 because his default is so ugly.
>>2420564He's missing his iconic skull make up
>>2420573Its his weird orangutan looking stance that is so ugly for me.
Leton is the GOAT.
I've been running Bloody Berserker this playthrough for the absolute memery of it. It's pretty scary to tard wrangle him, but despite the nail-biting fear whenever it triggers, he's actually not that bad. I just wish it would use Tornado Slash and not prioritise Gale Slash so much. But on the other hand, he aims Gale Slash pretty well for multikills so it's not usually a waste.
>>2420590BB is surprisingly good, pic rel is my end game setup I used to solo 58V. Not really too different from yours since it looks like you also found the Second Wind synergy.
>>2420592Yeah, I pretty much always run Second Wind on Albus and Bianca. It gives way too much survivability for four individually useful masteries. Haven't thought much beyond that. I may swap out Phys Res 2 for Metallic Muscle Armor later once I get Steel Armor, but that leaves him terribly exposed to ESP compared to Final Resistance, and FR is only 2 more Defence slots with my board which is attainable once I get the Human masteries.
>>2420595You will definitely need to spec into crit damage reduction. BB Albus only ever dies to a fat crit otherwise the guy can eat most attacks and be fine. Draki's perfect scale is the only accessory you will need for the DLCs on him. Also something that isn't relevant for the build early but is relevant later is giving him a shitty sword instead of a good one. The rampage buff will lead to him 1 shotting everything instead of attacking -> bladestorm followup to trigger all the bonus effects from killing enemies with bleed. Eluote from Ralph becomes the best sword for a BB build because the crazy block bonuses it gives helps to reduce enemy crit chance and the shitty attack damage doesn't matter.
>>2420607That explains the lack of Muscle Training.Right now my Albus is rocking Ryo's sword that he spoonfed me at the harbour.
>>2420617Oh one other thing; rampage AI is fucking retarded and its always worth it to drop any ranged abilities. If you don't the AI will waste turns doing ranged attacks against enemies in full cover a mile away.
Ouch. ESP hurts like fuck when you have 23 Resisistance
>>2420633Nice screenshot. I love those killcams.
>>2420665Anne... is dead...
>>2420669Yeah, that seems about right
>>2420665they get you some nice angles sometimes
>>2420633
I wish Martial Artist Leton had 2 basic ability slots so I could run both Taunt and his basic attack for a counter build. Taunt seems like the best way to keep counterattack worthwhile in late game, and MA gets the best counterattack damage. I know White Knight can make good use of both taunt and counterattack, but theirs is a lot more situational.Maybe if we got the Tier 3 classes, then Action Star or Battlemaster would be perfect for that.
>>2420665for me it's VHPD strikers nutcracking villains to death
>>2421082WELCOME TO MY STEIJICounterattack on Leton is still pretty useful because enemy aggro prioritises units who have attacked a lot, and he has inbuilt Clenched Fist so he won't be taking Retaliation counters. He also suppresses for 40 AT with his punch so enemies won't get many repeat turns against him even if they dogpile him.
Took screenshots to show a friend various moments of this map and realised it shows a pretty nice progression in just a few screenshotsEstablishing shot, I picked Heixing bro because Sweeper obliterates this map
took a couple nights off playing to watch the Dollars trilogy...back in action tonight Troubleshooterbros
Shooting Anne in the head. She's a White Mage but she's Earth-based so she doesn't have Impulse Fields. Most enemies don't have this kind of firepower yet, and Anne usually has SP giving her block. Sand Castle already got broken via Sweeping Fire.
Albus was pretty fucking annoying. Just like with the White Tiger Snipers earlier, Giselle could only do 1 damage to him with Fire Support, and even with full Still Stance she couldn't end him in 1 turn until he went into Second Wind about eight or nine times.Frogge was my intended distraction, but my frog missed its Forestallment
Irene killed my frog, and Heixing killed Irene. She had Phoenix, but I burned it before she got close to the tower.
A bit of Giselle and Heixing wombo combo later and the map was pretty much over
The number of people raging at this map on the forums over the years...
Anyway, that's Giselle and Heixing being fair and balanced against my own un-neutered team
Oh yeah, here's the stats. Overwhelming offence. The cops used Conceal to trigger Cover Move to eat a few attacks for free.That's the last of the screenshots.
Does the Asia server actually have a more active PvP scene than the NA and EU servers?Posts in previous threads talk about Asia PvP teams like they're a lot crazier than teams in western servers. I might start a save over there if so.
>>2421507I think this mission would be much more interesting if there were VHPD snipers
>>2421888I'm not far enough along to have it unlocked on this file yet, but there have been a lot of social people in town, and in the past I've had random PVP requests from people as I was loading in. Either way, the joint drills here are usually pretty spicy which is fun for messing around postgame.
>>2421992>there have been a lot of social people in town, and in the past I've had random PVP requests from people as I was loading insounds like what I was looking for, will I be able to communicate with Asia players with just English?
I wonder if this is just referring to the witch class (or fragrance for beasts), or if Dandy at some point intended there to be gender-specific masteries?
Somehow there's forward-facing cover on these two tiles in the first optional case despite there being nothing in front of them
>>2421999Most of them speak English at least a little bit, yeah
>>2422024There are tons of small terrain errors like that throughout the game. Cover, pathing and even walls seem to be manually set instead of auto generated. There are also a bunch of places you can get out of bounds with Wind Walk or other movement skills because of how sloppy Dandylion can be with their map barriers.
>>2421979But the point of that map was to train the VHPD in combat against snipers since they don't have any themselves...
>>2422042Oh, I had completely forgotten the context :(
>>2422049It's basically a map to show how OP Giselle is.I've managed to beat all of the VHPDs as well as my entire team every time I replay the game.
BIG numbers in a few levels. Heixing is 47 right now.
>>2422103The tanky stats on the legendary Drifter Clowns equipment is nice but I find it hard to pass up on some of the bonuses other shoes give, like the cast delay reduction from black iron leather shoes or the still stance enemy block reduction from mungo hide shoes.I like Wei's shoes on ranger Heixing though, he can dash to a position with cover and get both an attack with Resistance Shot and the -10 AT from the bonus effect, it gives him extremely fast turns.
>>2422126Yeah, Wei's shoes are usually pretty hard for me to pass up. They're one of the shoes with +2 base movement so it's possible to roll +3 on them which both Giselle and Heixing appreciate.
What did she mean by this?
>>2422277alley gypsies are hated even by their own kind
draw the wife or beat my head against the wall trying to improve the time on the 58V solo...
>>2421979or the VHPD Rocket Launcher like in the early promo video :D>>2422103did the clowns get nerfed, i wonder? i haven't heard anyone seething about them in ages
>>2422765>did the clowns get nerfed, i wonder? i haven't heard anyone seething about them in ageswe (I) seethe about impulse field snipers these daysalso what's everyone's thoughts on the star wars xcom
>>2422765They got nerfed indirectly because everyone's boards have 2 extra slots from Crimson Crow's board expansions that the previously maxed clowns don't make use of. I still find them pretty strong on replays when I skip most of the optional cases, but they're not unreasonable.
Never seen this before.
>>2422924chain effects be liek: if mercury is in retrograde and you critically hit an enemy to exactly 1 hp +1 to current stun duration
>>2422926>Mercury RetrogradeCould be possible in BC given that one of Claudia's advanced classes will be Astrologian
>>2422926And then there's Collision which is just>lol you knocked someone into a wall/other unit
>>2422919that's probably itnew players will never experience the joy of getting honked. sad, tragic even
Savana, my love. Give me ALL the Draki hearts.
>>2422926Chain effects are something I really hope they rework or expand on in BC. I've posted about it before in a previous thread but I think it would be nice if different status effects would interact with each other, like enemies with wet and shocked would also get stunned or get an upgraded shocked effect.>>2422957I started playing last year and got honked pretty hard my first time in DLC1, though only in the later missions. The way some people were complaining about the clowns judging by forum posts was like they couldn't even get past the night market. I guess that's to be expected since it's still a pretty big difficulty spike even if you're prepared for it. Destrons, the unique bicrons, and the dusk rangers was what really fucked me up in DLC1, though.>>2423010I'm pretty sure it's cheaper to buy the lowest tier then craft them all up into the higher tiers (or just let auto-crafting handle it when making gear), assuming you can do that with draki hearts. It works like that for most other materials.
>>2423020You're right, it's 3 Draki Hearts and a Flame Crystal (1508 vil) for a Whole Draki's Heart so it's about a 1600 vil discount to craft it myself. Meh, that's not such a big deal.
>>2423020>Chain effects are something I really hope they rework or expand on in BC. I've posted about it before in a previous thread but I think it would be nice if different status effects would interact with each otherThey already nailed that with field effects imo. Little details like knockback working better on ice tiles, lightning attacks hitting harder on water tiles and all of the synergies with lava tiles makes for fun interactive maps. It's also true though that a lot of those synergies are very rare due to the map design prioritizing metropolitan areas.
I love Skilled Military Strategist. I'm certain the reason Kylie almost starts with the full set equipped + The Expert is so she can feed people AT with wind grenades like this
Also it stacks for each enemy you stun
I'm so impatient for Banished Children it's become unhealthy.Literally everyday I check the steam forums, to see if they've even hinted at anything while responding to posts, I also check their xitter and the jewtube where they uploaded the OSTs to see if there's anything new there, even though they haven't posted anything since the last news update.I would also be checking whatever korean websites they posted their stuff on but I don't remember what those are and sometimes korean websites block my IP or browser for some reason.When they updated the game last month they said they had some development issues but it still seems like they're set on showing gameplay in the next dev diary, hopefully.
>>2423577Truly we have become the Troubleshooter: Abandoned Children
>>2423577You can't really speed it up unless you want to get hired by dandylion and work for free. Your best bet is to just forget about it and check back later.
>>2423122>>2423129Neat, I never thought about using it like that.
>>2423577Every time you check the steam page the game gets delayed by another day. I don't make the rules that is just how reality works.
>>2423577Exercise patience. I don't know if you were playing in the first month of AC but i know for sure you need them to cook, and slowly. They are also working with ue5, ya want some rushed ue sloppa? Not working at release and for months? Not gonna happen. You will find peace and let them do their thing.
>>2423577i feel you anonwould you consider channelling some of that obsession into making a map editor? got to be healthier than f5ing the steam fora
i am rock hard bros
where the fuck are the draki eggs? cleared the map and never found them
>>2424317They only show up in the draki violent case iirc
>>2424318that's what i was doing. are they only on hard? i tried it on hard and got bent over and raped so i tried again on normal
>>2424321There's two separate draki maps. Did you find the icy road in the first one?
>>2424323yeah the one i did had the icy road, and mentioned finding their secret lair or something near the end
>>2424324That should unlock the second map, unless there's some additional story mission you have to do (it's been a while since I've played on a new file)
>>2424325>That should unlock the second mapcool, it did, thanks
PSYCHOPATHbus isn't gone, merely dormant, waiting for KINDbus to eventually snap and let him roam this earth free once more.
>>2424354Nobody who uses masteries like Deathbringer, Holy Demonic Sword and Bloody Berserker could ever actually be a good guy
New dandylion news will drop by the end of the month.
Imagine Nurse Ray...
>>2424354In the next game, it is revealed that for his achievements, the government will conferred upon him the title of Big 'Bus. Disillusioned with the military-industrial complex, he will leave to found his own nation of mercenaries
>>2424384Imagine being an adolescent or teenaged boy in Teacher Ray's class...
>>2424377Good thing my Albus doesn't use those masteries, then
>>2424404A guy with a sword at a mission site. 100% villain, absolutely sure.
>>2424403>>2424384Ray is so fucking hot she would destroy the natural sexual growth of every teen\underage kid around her.I can totally see her going with underage boys.
>>2424384How many points do I get from imagining it?
>>2424447>2 hoursdamn that was fastnice art
>>2424451I how to grind and get better if I want more troubleshooter art.
>>2424447Do her going around with two kids under her arms.
>>2424447>Bunny rayPlease dandy hire fans.
>>2424447You should group all your art somewhere i always think i have missed something.
>>2424462I'll upload it on the mega. I was a bit hesistant on doing that so it doesn't devolve into an archive of my art.
>>2424459https://files.catbox.moe/lzg4oh.pngIt's not exactly what you requested but hope this suffices
>>2424544It's good it's good, everything you do its good. Keep up the good work.
>>2424354Only unmatched mindbreaking pussy can stop his rampage. Who will it be?
>>2424558Irene>Body Training>Muscle Training>Body And Mind Training>Repetitive Training
>>2424430I'm a villian huh? Missy you need to watch what you say. Looks like on site rape correction will be needed.
>>2424652A man with that kind of face could never be a hero
>>2424447h...hot...>Ray as a physics or chemistry teachermakes sense lole>>2424558Sion bussy
I know some people are expecting Albus to become an irredeemable villain but I think it would make since if he becomes an anti-villain.He seems on track to become disillusioned with the corrupt Valhalla government when he learns the truth about the disaster that killed his mother and the anti-government spoonists are depicted somewhat sympathetically compared to the other enemy factions. Albus currently doesn't seem to have strong convictions or really understand what's going on other than being the best troubleshooter he can to get access to classified government information, but he also doesn't seem totally machiavellian as some people make him out to be. I think it makes a lot of sense that he would end up opposing the Valhalla government on personal and/or moral grounds then maybe end up using some unscrupulous methods against them. Also I think it's worth pointing out that most "unprincipled" choices he can take during missions are suggestions from Giselle, then there's the flashback from the time in her company where she admonished Albus for basically being heroic and self-sacrificial in a way that led to him being injured. Albus isn't that bad of a guy on his own, he's just being corrupted by an evil hag.Being an anti-villain would also make for some interesting interactions with Irene who sees the world in a pretty black-and-white manner, where people are either villains or not. That black-and-white worldview works when most of the people she's fighting are terrorists or career criminals, but if Albus is a villain with a good motive, it would force Irene to confront her views on villainy and give her some internal conflict. Who would be the bigger villain in that situation, Albus, or the corrupt government? Could Albus even really be considered a villain if he has objectively good motives?
>>2425069>He seems on track to become disillusioned with the corrupt Valhalla governmentNot to pick on you anon, but what is this thread's obsession with Albus vs. Valhalla? Whatever Albus decides to do vis-a-vis Valhalla's political situation is secondary to his story at best. *WHY* does he want access to the files on the disaster so badly? What is the most important thing he's lacked for the last ten years? What is the subtitle of the fucking game? Albus's current arc doesn't end with a conflict with Valhalla, it ends with a conflict with his father (and possibly Lily).
>>2425078Probably because it's been several years with no sequel so random guesses are gradually morphing into a collective headcanon
>>2425069If he does become traitor to the government, it would probably be him linking up with a crime org and acting as a man on the inside.But I agree what the other anon said. On a thematic level, Albus being an anti valhalan criminal is AURA and HYPE moment tier.
>>2425078uhhh is she throwing a roman here?
>>2424558Giselle just works
>>2425084Newfriend... that idea has been around since way before the DLs released.
Albus is a goodie two shoes though. I thought you guys were just meming around
>>2425094she is pointing to the sky
>>2425132He pretends to be a goody two-shoes. Maximillion calls him out on it a few times.
>>2425177>armpit hairplease never post again
>>2425069>>2425078I don't know if Albus will turn out to be the villain, but it is foreseeable that many people, including him, will turn against the government.The truth behind the disaster is that the government murdered 100,000 people, including Albus' mother, Alma. This fact gives not only Albus, but anyone within Valhalla a just and reasonable cause to rebel.Then, in BC, we will have Yuri joins the team. It's hard to believe the Team Ari being Valhalla-friendly with him on board.
>>2425078Ventus' sword is in the game files. Numerically it's unremarkable, but its level requirement is 60
Dan DeeDan DeeDan DeeDan Dee
>>2425289Does it have its own model? Would be neat if it looked like the sword in the CG with the Silverlining members.>Wind ForceI guess that also confirms that Albus's dad is a wind ESP user and he inherited it from him
>>2425364It does. It's smaller than I thought it would be and looks kind of unfinished.
>>2425132He's just pretending.Isaac handed him a hard drive full of incriminating evidence on corruption and we still don't know what Albus did with it.>>2425181Maximillion is the GOAT.
>>2425420Probably the hardest going line in the entire game.
White girls really do know how to dance.
>>2425410I just noticed Maximillion has the same model as Baozhi law.
>>2425524Cute.
>>2425524So cute! Can you do like every other girl?
>>2425094she just saw the little brats polluting the water feature
>>2425289WHAT
Its been a while but is Albus' dad the guy who went on to become a Vendetta member?
>>2425733No that was Chris, who was friends with Albus's parents and Don and part of the Silverlining, he was also supposedly a member of Vendetta before becoming a troubleshooter
>>2425524hahah the sleeve of the hoodie tied around her waist looks like a peanus weenus swinging back and forwards lole
>>2425524she cute
>>2425919ha ha benis :DDD
He is a true adventurer...
>>2427164All of those niggas got powercrept so hard by the 60V animalsdesu a lot of them were always bad
>>2424558No mortal pussy can survive PSYCHOPATHbusOur only hope is bibi's anus Nothing else can take that kind of sexual violence
>>2427165Yeah I know that.I am here to collect the golden beasts
>>2427171Are any of them fun or do neat things?
i'm like 85 hours deep and i still feel like i don't know shit about half the mechanics
>>2427176That's normal
>>2427174I think the Gold Tongue is pretty strong for the base game, and the Gold Wing has a skill that can burn down a large area of spider webs, which should be very useful against the Yasha.He was killed by his frog brother, so I didn't get a chance to test it
>>2427174They glow in the dark, like Leton.
>>2427176Yeah there's a lot to learn in this game. Are there any mechanics you want explained to you?>>2427174Gold Wing is one of the best dororis in the game along with Adventurer dorori, it can easily set up burn on targets to take advantage of all the fire masteries that activate when attacking a target with burn.Gold Molar gets outclassed by Blue Teeth in terms of abilities.Gold Tongue is probably the best of the three, partially because negooris are just strong but it also has some nice multi-hit/aoe abilities with access to lightning masteries for a lot of damage and a 12-range dashing ability.
>>2427236>Are there any mechanics you want explained to you?how retarded am i for basically ignoring crafting, drone upgrading, and beasts until now? im about to get a draki
>>2427494nta>craftingCrafting is safe to keep ignoring for now, but you will want to learn how it works by the end of White Lion/Black Witch because there are a bunch of powerful craft-only items (it's pretty simple, just not explained well in-game. You make items to unlock other items' recipes)>dronesDrones are more trouble than they're worth right now. They're material-intensive and you probably don't have many masteries for them yet. They get massive power spikes at the end of each DLC.>beastsDrakis are a good time to start getting into them, but if you haven't been using them at all until now then you've pretty much been down a party member this whole time. There are a bunch of maps later in the game where having a kickass beast helps a lot. There are also tons of masteries that you can only get by taming stuff.Hunter has a mastery that makes levelling beasts really fast, so it won't take that long to catch up once you get that.
>>2427494You can beat the game without tames and drones. Beasts can be pretty strong but the other anon might be overstating their power, or maybe I just personally haven't been using/building them right (I prefer sniper over hunter on Giselle). Drakis require a bit more investment than other beasts since they all start from like level 1 and have 4 evolution stages, but are all generally top-tier.Beasts are a lot more straightforward than drones since they use a lot of the same (or similar) masteries to your human team members. Drones on the other hand use "modules" instead of masteries and have their own equipment and fuel mechanics.Crafting is pretty important though, at least in my experience. You can get away with not touching it in the base game, but by the DLCs it will probably be your main source of gear unless you don't mind farming joint drills or violent cases to get whatever specific purple equipment you want. High-level (45+) equipment have bonus effects that help with a lot of builds (stuff like crit damage reduction or enemy block reduction) and purple-rarity equipment can roll the best modifiers for useful stats.If you've been scrapping all your unneeded loot so far, then materials shouldn't be too much of a concern. Be sure to unlock all the crafting recipes for higher-tier materials so you can extract lower-tier materials from them, that helps a lot with getting stuff like flame dust and small oil sacs.
>>2427494Beasts are easy enough to power level if you know the method. There's a guide about it on steam. And drakis are busted, for what they give you.
Interesting Battlemage Irene spotted on Asia>built around fire fields granting mega defences + recovery>three-piece Gold Leather set granting stun immunity, 15% melee block reduction and the charm gives another 15% against ailing enemies>two-piece Big Flame Negoori set purely for the attributes>Tough Spirit on his board for contraction/panic/magic backflow immunityHe has no cooldown reduction so he can't set up that many fields, but it's an unusual build style that I haven't seen before.The rest of his party is pretty ordinary, except that he has Argonaut on his Ranger Heixing for some reason, and Unpredictable on Sion which isn't that obscure to pvpers in this thread but not many people do it in the wider population
>>2427494>how retarded am i for basically ignoring crafting, drone upgrading, and beasts until now? im about to get a drakiI beat the entire game this way lol you arent fucked at all
>>2427494you'll want to craft weapons for Kylie and Ray at least
>>2427678i've actually tried upgrading Kylie's but don't know where to get the purple mats
>>2428203You should be able to craft them out of more common components, if you have the recipe unlocked. Most materials can be bought from vendors in Shooter Street, if you've progressed far enough.
>>2428208>Most materials can be bought from vendors in Shooter Street, if you've progressed far enough.Yeah>teeth, claws and oils from the potions guy>fiber and skins from the general store>parts and machine items from Maximillion>gems from Savana>psi stones from CamilaMost of the quests from them unlock additional stock, but if you've been doing them up to that point they'll have pretty much everything except progression-based items like crabmit leathersMaximillion also sells grenades and sprays for Ray.
>>2428203crafting /= upgrading, making an entire new weapon rather than giving an existing weapon a +1 after its name, which is a waste of time until endgamebut yeah, what the other anons said about finding/making materials
>>2428274i get the difference but isn't her new weapon just called V2? so it feels like an upgrade kek
>>2428275cool, thought i'd clarify just in caseM2 and V2, up to M8 and V8 iirc
This is Ventus, right?
>>2428462I was going to say it could just be a random guy that looks a lot like him, but that CG shows up during exposition about the disaster that killed Albus's mom after the plaza mission, and Dandy almost never puts much focus or details on background characters, even recurring ones, in their CGs.You could try asking Dandylion on the forums, they used to drop a lore tidbits that aren't told in-game there when people asked about the story and worldbuilding.
>>2372244Months ago, I got all achievements, masteries, modules, and sets unlocked on a single save, but never bothered with troublemaker information or crafting recipes since that all seemed too grindy for no achievements or practical benefit.But since the recent nerf to information requirements and the fact that my Albus has a Scrooge McDuck bank vault full of vill, I decided to knock out getting 100% info on all baddies, include joint drill variants, and max out all crafting recipes.So this is now a true 100% save file.
>>2428462>>2428514That's Sharky. Check out his right hand, he holds on to a spoon while the TV reports about Spoonism in that scene.
>>2428545That's what I thought until anon showed the comparison, but look at the hair patterns
>>2428545Sharky shows up later without his mask talking to Issac, and he's wearing his jacket with the spiked shoulders there. I feel like if Dandylion wanted us to know that was Sharky, then he would be wearing the same jacket here. Plus he seems way too short to be Sharky.Same nose, same mouth, same face shape, similar hair, eyes seemingly intentionally obscured compared to everyone else in the CG, shows up when talking about the disaster and when Albus first makes news in the plaza attack. Could just be a coincidence, they had to have drawn hundreds of random background characters so some are bound to look similar to people we know, but this one seems like it could be deliberate.Visha shows up in a bunch of different flashback CGs like the ones from Leton's and Bianca's childhood, you can also see Turk and Naam in the Alley flashbacks. So Dandy can be pretty intentional with who they draw in the backgrounds.
>>2428462>>2428514>>2428548>>2428556This is some Mandela effect shit, apparently that CG doesn't actually show up in a cutscene?I replayed both the plaza mission and Sion's recruitment mission and that CG didn't show up in either of them, when it should be in one of those missions according to the gallery. I also checked the cutscenes in the cutscene replay option menu, doesn't show up there.Then I figured that maybe it just doesn't show on replays, so I looked at let's plays of those missions, and it never showed up the first time the let's players cleared the missions either.Fucking bizarre, since I seem to remember seeing that CG right after the plaza mission. Maybe my brain just made up fake memories since the gallery makes it seem like it should appear then.
>>2428574It's from the cutscene "A Night With A Full Moon" in chapter 2. I think it might be somewhere else as well because I remember it being unobscured when I did my most recent playthrough a few weeks ago
>>2428574It is from the construction site mission where Irene shows up to help.
>>2428582>>2428586naruhodoIn the construction site mission cutscene given the context, it seems like it was just showing a spoonist sympathizer among the regular populaceI guess it's just a coincidence that it looks like Ventus, then
what in the fuck is with this mission? i failed 4 times on hard and still can't even beat this piece of shit on normal, someone spoonfeed me where exactly i should send everyone before i lose my mindeverything was going well then literally 30 motherfuckers appear to fight the 6 cops at the north entrance and i still couldn't even get to them in time even spamming movement for 5 straight turns and having my team split up
>>2428634That's the final story map of the base game.The important thing to know is that the enemies start pushing towards one of the groups of cops when Foo dies (it's a literal 50/50 between whether they go north or south), so you have until then to send a group around the East of the map towards the North to be ready.
>>2428634Don't rush straight into the center to kill Foo first. That triggers all the White Tigers to try to rush the police line to break out.Instead, have most of your units climb over the barricade on the right side of the street you come in from, and kill as many White Tigers on the periphery of the map before they all decide to rush the defensive line, and maybe have some units meet up with the cops there.
>>2428639>>2428640thank you anons, i'll probably give it another go on hard tonight with this information since my problem was never the enemies being too hard and cool, i knew i was coming up on the end but didn't realize it was the last one
Been spamming joint drills on Asia and ran into a guy with an absolutely monstrous Giselle and Heixing duo. When I first played his team I mentally wrote them off because of the level 59 Leton, but holy fuck this is not a work in progress team.I also have a collage of his Heixing which I'll post next, but the rest of his team was relatively standard besides a half-Spirit Ray
Here's his Heixing. Paired with his Giselle he wiped me the first time I faced his team, and got me down to 3 dudes the second time
>>2428690>White Tiger's Mark on GiselleThat makes a lot of sense, I prefer more defense gear on her like her Hunter's Seal or a Noble Scale, but Giselle probably benefits the most from the raw attack power.>>2428691>Dunames S - MP of SweeperI'm so jealous, I've been trying to get one of those on and off for the past couple of weeks but have been getting unlucky with drops and rolls. A perfect roll on one of those will have +80% critical damage on top of the +30% critical damage to responsive attacks. That's probably why that Heixing was able to wipe your team.I Can Do This gives another +50% crit damage too. I would've tried to fit Vocation or Breakthrough in there for some block reduction to get more crits.
>>2428712>GiselleYeah, I also tend to use defensive items on my own Giselles. I guess he feels pretty safe with 20 sight.>HeixingProfessionalism instead of Morale Boost would probably be the play, yeah. I don't think block reduction was his priority because So There You Are is -30% to marked targets and I've Got You In My Sight is Overwatch autocrits against revealed enemies, which he can set up himself or with Giselle's flare.I'd also be tempted to swap the Bull Seal out for a Weight, but having played that team there were a lot of attacks that would have done about 2700-2900 to him that he wouldn't have survived without it.Either way, it's the hardest team I played all night.
>>2428690Giant Killer Giselle is pretty rude lolthe Heixing's pretty similar to what i run, AT refunds out the wazoo, So There You Are... to not get fucked by Misty>Alchemist Rayit was shit, wasn't it... even a spirit board can't save Alchemist
>>2428876It was hard to tell with how overpowered his gun users were, but she didn't pose any problems. The AI is really bad at using SP-based builds in general because it immediately blows its ultimates instead of sitting at full SP for a while.
>>2428898i might start not equipping ultimates so both the AI and me play less like retardslike how some people don't equip Misty's basic attack ig
https://files.catbox.moe/86vyyx.png the catbox image is an unrelated sfw image sorry.
we made it, lads. we fucking made it.
>>2429307Cute assassin duo.
>>2429326Ya did it. Which element are you getting first?
>>2429329no idea, how do i pick? and where should i level this guy
>>2429330You'll get a choice when it's time to evolve the egg. Each elemental line gives you a mastery at the end that lets you convert skills' elements to/from that element. You also eventually need a melee Wind Draki for a couple of achievements.>levellingThe metafag choice is Firefly Park with Challenge Mode enabled and your units loaded up with exp masteries, but I don't do that myself. Just having it out on whatever mission you're running to passively soak up exp is good enough. Eventually you'll get a mastery that gives +10% beast exp per level below Giselle if you don't have it already, which makes it very fast to catch up.
>>2429330>no idea, how do i pick?level it up a bit and it will let you evolve it into a baby draki of one of the SP types>and where should i level this guyjust summoning it will let it gain passive exp from your team's kills which is kinda slow but requires no effort. some people put final blow on their low-level beasts and try to feed them kills, which levels them a bit faster. pic rel shows the meta way, if you have access to the scholar set that gives all units bonus exp gains then bring kylie or ray with that set equipped too>>2429331i got ninja'd by this post
>>2429330If you intend on redoing the mission, air element drakis give you access to the queen.
>>2429331cool thanks i saw the evolution charts but didn't read much yet. i haven't needed to grind yet but i'm on the final story mission so i'm going to try to grind my draki up a bit before i do it
>>2429330>>2429335>air element drakis give you access to the queenGet one of these, it will make getting more drakis easier in the future and will let you hatch the special eggs that appear in a couple of DLC missions
>>2429334>some people put final blow on their low-level beasts and try to feed them kills, which levels them a bit fasterDoing that is way faster. They can get like 40,000 exp from a single kill that way without exp masteries.
>>2429335>>2429339qrd? why do i need to redo the mission if i haven't picked my eggs element yet? is there a certain egg i have to get?
>>2429342>why do i need to redo the mission if i haven't picked my eggs element yet?You don't, I think that anon was just assuming you already evolved it once>is there a certain egg i have to get?not in that particular mission :p
>>2429342You don't need to redo it. But getting a draki queen let's you skip the hassle of getting her to roar.
>>2429345All the eggs start to hatch at once if you murder her
>>2429346You play on easy mode or normal mode, and you use the draki queen to hatch them.
>>2429349Draki Queen is on those difficulties now too. Has been for ages.
What's a good accessory for end-game Heixing? I just put a purple mungo hide wrist guard on him for the crit damage. Something with more vigor like Mash's bracelet might be better for sweeper, but I mostly play him ranger.
>>2429369early dlc 2 I just slap on the red sand scope late game I slap on white hat to give him tons of luck procs
>>2429372By accessories I meant like bracelets and wrist guardsFor the gear slot I personally can't find anything better than a Noble Scale, he's squishy enough to need it and fast enough to make good use of it
>>2429369Ranger can pretty much get away with anything in the arm slot. Most people online just give him a big HP bracelet with speed on it. If you're playing him in a manner that he's getting hit a lot, a Demolisher Wristguard for bleed immunity makes a big difference in his tankiness.I like to give him Mash's gear as a Ranger so he disables other rangers' Cover Move if they get into Revenge Fire loops. It's not as cheesy as White Hat but it feels good.
>>2429366She doesnt' spawn in easy mode. So you could say... you get easier access to eggs.
After I got my first queen I just get all my basic draki tames from Karmait's a lot quicker and easier than doing 44v, even when retreating early
>>2429381Ranger heixing should never be getting hit with his cover move for noble scale to be worth it imo.But for his arm slot I just throw on whatever and don't really think about it.
>>2429383She does. If that's the current version of the game, the troublemaker list is wrong.
>>2429399Yeah, that's the current version. That's pretty strange actually.
>>2429410Dandylion changed it at my request because they agreed that Drakis being unable to be tamed on low difficulties was unreasonable. Adding the queen on all difficulties was seen as the simplest way to change it, but it was such a hackjob change that it left minor errors. I think the boss count on the HUD in the mission itself is wrong too.
I tamed a few drakis eggshells in 44v on hard without too much issue.A lot of them run towards the corner in the main chamber, so Giselle with Reload can easily tame a couple in like 0 AT
>>2429427The way I do it is to stand on the cliff in the entry tunnel until they hatch, then run down and nab two from the closest group. With Bounding Leap you can go anywhere you want!
Just ran into my meme HP team that I made on one of my Asia files previously. The interesting thing is that the file was actually deleted to make room for this one I'm currently playing on, so teams are kept around even through deletions.That's cool, that means my fat exp team will remain in circulation pretty much forever. It also has Call of Wind/Earth/Ice/Water on it so people will potentially get spoonfed those masteries.
It's not a very powerful team and it's going to give fuck all loot because everyone's in almost entirely set items, but lmfao
>>2429624144p anon...
can you abandon mission after training a beast and keep it?
>>2429640no, but if you retreat you get to keep it
>>2429640Yes, once it's tamed it's yours.
Skilled Military Strategist spotted on a Ninja Misty. Also that fucking evasion.
>>2429307Cute strawberry kid.
Who would win?
>>2429927JOBus is gonna job...
>>2428898>>2429013I find it hard to justify using SP-based builds on most team members just because a lot of them have very good ultimate abilities. There's no way I'm not using Lightning Storm or Reinforced Attack Protocol if I can hit it on a group of enemies or kill a single tough enemy with it.The ones that don't have good ultimates either don't have a good SP bonus worth sitting on, or they have much better options than SP masteries and sets. Like Irene does enough damage normally, she doesn't need the bonus damage from fire SP, while Giselle's class masteries are so much better than spirit and SP-focused masteries.Some beasts can definitely benefit more from SP builds than the team can, but I think drones consistently get the most benefit from just sitting on overcharge. The only drone ultimate that isn't a minor upgrade to their basic attack is the rifle ultimate which is a mini annihilation shot, and staying overcharged helps drones not run out of fuel. Plus information and heating SP give some of the best stat bonuses in the game.>>2429820>4/5 star rolls and +9 on his armorwow what a scrub>>2429927Albus could totally get out of that situation, depending on his build. This is the guy who can use second wind, get -30 AT every time he blocks, ignore fatal damage if he has enough vigor, or just wind walk away.
>>2430051>or just wind walk away.
>>2430051>I find it hard to justify using SP-based builds on most team members just because a lot of them have very good ultimate abilities. There's no way I'm not using Lightning Storm or Reinforced Attack Protocol if I can hit it on a group of enemies or kill a single tough enemy with it.Blowing up a group is usually worth it, but most ultimate skills have high cast delay that not every build can mitigate. If you're running a SP build you can usually deal ultimate-like damage with your regular skills while benefiting from the defensive/offensive bonuses of being at max SP>Like Irene does enough damage normally, she doesn't need the bonus damage from fire SPFire SP's bonus damage interacts in a really strange way with the damage formula that has the side effect of making it great at getting around damage reduction. It also makes Phoenix restore more HP on activation, so having Irene sit at high SP makes her both safer and stronger. Similarly, every Spirit user has access to Sharp Spirit for 20% block shred per 100 SP and Overflowing Spirit for +50% damage reduction while overcharged in addition to the accuracy bonus from Spirit SP. There are other masteries that give them more effects too.Misty with an SP build gets +20% dodge per 100 SP and reduces enemy evasion by the same amount. Anne gets +50% block per 100 SP and reduces enemy block by that much which is hilarious on Witches. Sion has Overflowing Energy for incredibly easy 36AT turns while overcharged, and can be combined with Energy Conversion for a ghetto Draki's Fancy Scale effect. Leton gets 200 flat damage reduction per 100 SP even without the doubling effect of Cold of Despair pushing it to 400, which makes him significantly tankier and extremely hard to damage in Final Resistance.These aren't theoretical use cases either. I've used all of them at one point or another. People underestimate SP builds because "hehe big boom" combined with SP effects being kind of mediocre without any investment.
>>2429927Bloodlusted Albus solos this
Joint Drills vs player teams with HRHR enabled is a fantastic source of loot.
Apologies for shitty qualitywhere were you when Mungos was stunnedI was in the alley when Kylie say "Mungos is stunned""no""yes"
>>2430268Holy kino...
i just got to dlc1 and i was mostly following steam guides on how to build characters as I didn't want to really interact with the mastery system as I found it needlessly complicated and a little annoying as the menus are quite slow (why does making masteries also pull up a loading bar?) i pretty much followed this build for albus but I tried a bloody berserker build like the one in the thread, which was kind of funny but saw him get 1 shotted by a stray crit. what the hell is a draki scale and where do I get one, and should I be just focusing on proccing bleed with albus for action economy? i noticed the skills that reduce your turn time via bleed are great, paired with catharsis or some mastery set that refunds skill cooldowns on killing, but it seems like setting all that up requires leaving out masteries to increase his block and ability to bypass blocks.
>>2430368Rampage makes you really squishy because one of its effects is to make you lose 300 armour and resistance while it's active. Drifter Clowns also just hit really hard, especially the Skeleton Masks>what the hell is a draki scale and where do I get oneThere's three of them, all from the Draki bosses>Draki's Fancy Scale - makes you take your turn instantly when hit for more than a third of your max HP at once, drops from Draki Barons>Draki's Noble Scale - 90% damage reduction for the first hit of each turn, drops from Draki Princes>Draki's Perfect Scale - 100% critical damage reduction (same as Steel Armor and stacks additively with it), Keen Sense, and dodges the first responsive attack of each turn. Drops from Draki King and Queen.Whether to focus on Bloodbath abuse is up to you. It doesn't necessarily make him any squishier because Great Swordsman has a good amount of Attack and Defence slots anyway. I don't often run it myself because I think it's too cheesy on him.
>>2430368>noob following the BB meme build I postedRumaoIf your are in dlc1 just about bleedbus and rape the map on the first turn.
>>2430390I didnt know berserk make you so much squisher. I like him going berserk because it's funny and also maps take way longer since you've got 2 more characters in addition to your current cast so it's nice to kind of have less to worry about. >>2430394buh buh buh the clowns have such high block :(
>>2430368>>2430398Have you done the late-game violent cases for the base game yet? 46v has a couple of legendary weapons that reduce enemy block and armor with plenty good stats. As you get further in DLC1 you'll find some masteries that might help as well.>what the hell is a draki scale and where do I get oneThere are three different type of draki scales which all have decent effects and they drop from the draki bosses (barons, princes, queen, and king), but usually when people are talking about draki scales they're referring to the perfect draki scale which drops from the king and queen which has several useful effects, with the crit damage reduction being the biggest.
where's the mastery "Devotion"?
>>2430413Dropped by Julio, in 23v or the Spoonist bridge missionalternatively, dropped by Mash
>>2430413>>2430425You might have enough Troublemaker info on Julio to claim it from his entry in the Troublemaker list if you've killed him a few times already.
>>2430408i havent touched those since i figured they would be hard and i was already getting filtered by the side mission map where theres a bunch of securitrons in a garage posted up like it's hoover dam and just wheeling over and blending my team
>>2430268
>>2430425>>2430431thanks anons. this general is kino
>>2430435the distribution centre? man if you can't handle that you're not ready for the clowns or the destrons
>>2430461I was still getting fucked by the unique bicrons in there even when pretty overleveled.They do a crazy amount of damage for their level and the fact that they all have damage absorbing means you don't always be able to kill them before they use their ult and kill multiple units unless you use EMPs.
>>2430398>buh buh buh the clowns have such high block :(GS has several masteries and sets that redice enemy block when they blled iirc. You actually want them to block the first hit so he follows up with a bladestorm crit kill for +1 AP.
>>2430435>dlc1>hasnt done most of the end game violent missionsYeah thats probably why you are getting your shit pushed in by the clowns. Atleast go do 46V a couple of times for the legendary gear.
>>2430463Damage Absorbing is the machine version of Impulse FIelds, except instead of capping damage to half their max HP it caps it to a quarter. It took me about three playthroughs to get that into my head.
>>2430463Bait the destrons over to one of the side doors and shoot them from just out of range. Also invest in Sion battlemage since he can tank that shit like a champ.
>>2430461i can get through the map alright now but the flamethrower just deletes whoever it touches. the fire support from the main bot also does a lot of damage. >>2430480the first dlc mission with the clowns actually went alright but leton is basically my only tank. i have most of the crew at max level so I wasn't feeling like my damage dealers were undergeared, but all my frontliners are too squishy, and i have irene and sion as battlemages with iron heart and other defensive masteries. also why would I do the endgame missions when the mission to unlock new characters is just next door? i wanted to know what the deal was with these two characters for a while now. now i can go back and level up bianca. thats a 200 iq play. im a genius.
>>2430482Fighting machine enemies just feels like a knowledge check and damage check most of the time
>>2430487>but all my frontliners are too squishy, and i have irene and sion as battlemages with iron heart and other defensive masteries.Irene as a martial artist will be sufficiently tanky. For sion you really want improved magic shield + magic armor for the phat 100%+ block. Battlemages can take a big hit and impulse fields it before countering for a free full heal.
>>2430490It's hard to explain but sometimes sion is sufficiently tanky and sometimes i just see him get one shotted. I used to have him as just a pure caster before with one shot one kill and he would clear the map as long as there was anything killable, until everything started getting impulse fields or some equivalent. now hes not really that strong and he's not really that tanky. impulse fields gets deleted by multi hit moves, like when a bot starts shooting.
>>2430497Are you running the moving castle set + improved magic shield? Thats upwards of 90% damage reduction (i think) + 100% block at minimum. You should also run the CMC sets that give him CMC for blocking and then when he gets hit he can counterattack and heal his entire hp bar.Also when in doubt just have anne be a light mage heal slut with the mastery that lets her auto heal allies off turn if they drop too low.
>>2430497Also when in doubt slap draki's perfect scale on any frontliner. The free keen sense and -100% crit damage makes them way more tanky than you would think.
just finished the base game. what am i in for with the DLC's?
>>2430599Honking
Post cute animals.
>>2430652
>>2430599SEXXXXXXXXXXXXSEX SEX SEXSEX MISTY SEX SEEEEEEEEEEEXXXXXXXXoh yeah and getting gaped by DLC2DLC1 isn't too bad except for the final map
Trying to draw the troubleshooter girls has enlightened me to how bizarre some of their outfits are. Bibi is wearing some kind of super small jacket on top of a zip up sweater (possibly just a 2nd jacket) which is presumably over another shirt. Or maybe I'm just a retard that doesn't understand clothes which is also a possibility.
>>2430835There's a good possibility she doesn't wear anything below the zip up sweater except a bra. If she wore another tshirt underneath the sweater she'd be overheating.
>>2430652How hard was it to commune Skull Mask? Did you get him when he was on low health?Mungos are cute. I like how the American mungos have little cowboy vests and hats. Some of the monsters in concept art for the next game look pretty cute too.>>2430835Irene's fishnet sleeves always struck me as something that would be pretty uncomfortable to wear
sometimes you just need to one shot one-skill technically mungo king to relaxthat's 2/2 one-tappable gigabosses(I've done pre-nerf schild before as well)Mungo king could've rolled more HP, but it would've only made it easier because of giant killer
>>2430944The fishnet sleeves are very slutty, and if met a girl who dressed like Irene irl. I'd assume she was a prostitute.
>>2430958doesn't count since he second hearted :p>>2430961Yeah it's weird, especially since Irene is probably the least sexual girl in the game
>>2430835I can bet money she is one of those "no bra". Once you open those zippers is tits out.
>>2431008Nah they would chafe too much considering her line of work.
>>2431022She wears a very, very, very, VERY tight jacket under another more free jacket. Imagine how much sweat there is under all those black stight dresses.
>>2431026Something like this?
>>2431096Precisely.
>>2430652>3211 HP AnneFAT! FAAAT!
>>2430463>>2430487>levels levels levelslevelling is not as important as it soundsif your frontliners are all dying their builds need some work, 100%+ block is a good rule of thumb around DLC1if your backliners are all dying your tactics need some work
>>2431163positively anorexic>>2429622
>>2430944>Did you get him when he was on low health?Yep, got him right before he got his turn. The persuasion success rate was about 90%.>Some of the monsters in concept art for the next game look pretty cute too.I like the Zephygles. And one of the Fogri reminded me of Gabumon from Digimon.
>>2430958Which skill is that?
>>2431335Spin Cutter, one of Alisa's ultimate skills
>>2430540i am now aware of magic shield thanks to your post. i have anne setup for auto heals but improved magic shield does help a lot. I'm not sure how to get higher block on my frontliners, I haven't really been crafting or farming gear. >>2430542i just cleared the draki nest mission and it went pretty smoothly. the only issue i had was with status effects, namely when someone gets frozen or poison eventually killing my albus who almost solo'd the entire map.
Heh, this is just a glimpse of my dark and twisted world. I'd be careful if I was you.
>>2431493*teleports behind you
>>2430652For me, it's this guy.>>2431310I can see the resemblance...
>>2431517NTR bastard looking design
>>2431514Great map. I still wish there was a violent case with the Tri-Stars, Pascal, some of his Destrons and the Red Sand bosses.It sucks that we have to repeat a story mission to farm their gear.
>>2431514Misty's alt costumes are so bad man.
>>2430958scratch all that, here's an actual, true one-shot kekhe's missing a little bit of HP, but trust me when I say the damage is enough to kill from any point at any amount of health, I've ran the tests properly. Giant killer isn't even being procced hereall mods on, you know the drillstronk wife=good lifeanyway, back to attempting drawing>>2431335spin cutter, one of her overcharge skills, it's unlocked by leveling barb
>>2431514Mash is one of my favorite characters in terms of design and backstory, I really hope he shows up again. It would be a dream for me if he was like a playable character in the third game, if that ever happens.>>2431521>I still wish there was a violent case with the Tri-Stars, Pascal, some of his Destrons and the Red Sand bossesYeah 60v is pretty underwhelming, especially for a faction like the Red Sands which do better in wide open spaces instead of close-quarters. At least their sweepers get to shine in that map, with close suppressive fire activating every time you enter a room with one.>It sucks that we have to repeat a story mission to farm their gear.Joint drills, if you do the doubles mode then you only have to fight them 2 at a time and if you have collector's bags equipped you can keep their items if you leave early (before you have to 2v2 the destrons). Though if you're just looking to farm Ortega or Mash, doing Misty's solo mission is probably better.
What are the lore implications of the magic cube?
>>2431585whaaaa??isn't there usually a truck there?
>>2431586There's probably supposed to be a truck there. The cover around the cube is very truck shaped. I'd report these things to dandylion, but I honestly don't want dandylion to waste time on abandoned children.
>>2431615There is a truck there, and it shows up perfectly fine on my gameProbably just something wrong on your end
>>2431194Levels absolutely do matter, at least certain level breakpoints do for equipping gear and masteries.I brought up the level difference when talking about the bicrons in 39v because level affects how effective armor/resistance is at reducing damage. The higher the attacker's level, the less damage is mitigated. So level 42 bicrons being able to one-shot units that are significantly higher level than them is pretty notable. Their ultimate abilities are all multi-hit AoE that get some pretty gnarly damage modifiers, and if I remember they get overcharge state for free at half health, but even despite that machine enemies can still stack SP pretty easily.
>>2431657A lot of their massive damage output also comes from most units having low resistance. Most of your units naturally end up with heavily skewed defensive stats, like 800 armour vs 200 resistance kind of difference, unless you take steps to mitigate it with rings or masteries like Regular Exercise and Muscle Tolerance.
>>2431657right, so you can mitigate 33% of the damage from a lv 10 enemy and 0% of the damage from a lv infinite enemyan infinite level difference is about as strong as Piercing Resistance II, a 1 point mastery
>>2431825ntaI don't understand what you're trying to say. Your English is so broken.Defence/resistance and physical/elemental resistances are the same in the formula. There's no difference between 0 armour + 500 slashing resistance and 500 armour + 0 slashing resistance as far as mitigation is concerned. Those resistance masteries are very powerful, especially early.I don't have the ability to make a nice graph, but the mitigation vs level numbers look like this
>>2431890Im glad most players chose the correct way to fuck bianca
>>2431890I had no idea the choices were that skewed on that map. They're both about the same difficulty.
where should i farm rainbow obsidian shit?
>>243193722 blue case. The purple tier only drops in 60V.Buying them from Savana is fast and easy too.
>>2431940>Savanawhip out that cock anon, i'm sucking that motherfucker. i had no idea she sold this stuff
>>2431942the shooter street merchants are your friends
when do you get Misty? i thought Bianca and Alisa were the last characters
>>2431987Misty shows up at the start of DLC2
>>2431987She is already there she is just hiding and eating irene's doritos
https://files.catbox.moe/795s4v.png
>>2432011Villain...
i'm getting raped on the first DLC mission, any tips to prepare for it? gear to seek out from the base game or something?
>>2432111nevermind kek i beat it, still i feel underpowered though
>>2432111>any tips to prepare for it?It's just a major difficulty spike so you should just make sure your units have decent gear and masteries before heading in.Otherwise, this is where you'll really have to start paying attention to enemy masteries and abilities, and start playing around that, if you haven't been doing that already.>gear to seek out from the base game or something?The legendary sniper and one of the legendary swords from 46v have block reduction which is very useful against the white clowns, but they aren't necessary.
>>2432111The level 46 violent case has tons of useful items and masteries in it, but it's way harder than pressing on.Otherwise, it's mostly just knowledge>White Clown Masks have high block and Shedding, but they're very slow and their damage is kind of mediocre. Leton can freeze them, or units with enough damage or guaranteed crits (Sen no Sen or Retaliation, for example) can just kill them>Black Clown Masks aren't that tanky until they get low, but they have Anger Strike and Lunatic Beast which make them very dangerous when attacked. They don't have Massiveness though, which leaves them vulnerable to knockback stuns.But yeah as the other anon said, this is the point where you start to have to pay attention to the enemies' builds. They're made with meta knowledge and set up to counter popular builds from the base game.
Forgot to mention, but you can also slot Breakthrough to make the White Clowns a bit easier. They still end up with fucktons of block when they see a lot of friendlies, but at least it makes them crittable for people like Heixing.
>>2432111Breakthrough is the best offensive mastery in the game.
>>2432111One other tip, especially once Skeleton Masks start showing up, is to stay out of their blue movement range if you know you're in danger of taking hits. Skeleton Masks and White Clown Masks' double-hit attacks aren't dashing attacks, so they'll be forced into making inaccurate basic attacks from a distance, which also screws them out of Wrestling's accuracy bonus and Close Combatant's damage bonus.NEVER allow a Skeleton Mask to attack you in Still Stance because they have One-Inch Punch which sends their damage into the stratosphere.
web grenades and web drones also screw over the clowns quite a bit
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>>2432020first Ray lewd evar?
>>2432111how nostalgic>HONK (black)block moar, Leton Freeze and Anne Entangling Roots are nice too>HONK (white)Breakthrough and autocrit more>skullmaskHONKgood thing your backline survived long enough to ohko these bastardsor yeah, stun them all, cheap and effective
Why do the skeleton niggers hit so hard anyways? Their stupid double kick will one shot pretty much everyone regardless of how tanky they are.
>>2432361Not even the first ray lewds in the thread
>>2432377They're just specced entirely for damage. Even the non-elite variants have more attack power than Wei or Hanson.Krumping, Macho Man, With Full Heart, and some of the masteries that make up those sets all give damage bonuses or attack power. One-inch Punch doubles their damage at still stance, and I'm pretty sure that works with Overwhelm to give them a free attack with that bonus if they start adjacent to one of your units. They also have The Fight King which lets them ignore a lot of block, and they're getting a lot of value from Trained Attack to the point where their kick abilities have like 800 and 600 base damage.Martial Artist/Fighter masteries are so much better with blunt instead of ESP abilities that it makes me wish we had a proper spirit MA. Irene only has one non-ESP attack without Call of Fire, and it's her basic attack. Leton has a few blunt attacks, and they're all pretty decent, but then if you build him around that, you'll miss out on his utility to spam freeze on everything. Similar thing if you use the MA mungo, because then you won't be using some of the other very good tame options.
>>2432377They inflict 2 stacks of armourbreak with each hit, so the first kick halves your armour from equipment and the second kick removes all of it. They hurt a lot less when you have armour from masteries like Metallic Muscle Armor (Solidity + Enhanced Suit + Muscle Armor + Steel Armor) or resistance from the resistance masteries (Blunt Resistance 3 is very strong right about now)
>>2432524On one of my playthroughs I made Irene use a build that's a tweaked version of their setup and she ended up being an absolute damage monster regardless
I think martial artist would be a much more interesting class if it was focused more around knockback, stuns, speed, and mobility instead of mostly just being a melee stat monster class. As it stands, it has too similar a role to white knight, which is another melee stat monster class, and I'm sure that when people typically thing of martial artists, they're thinking of people who are quick on their feet instead of slow and tanky like most martial artists in Troubleshooter tend to be. Other TRPGs like Disgaea also have their fist-users take more of a utility role with knockbacks instead of just raw damage.The class does have a couple of sets that are about knockback and stuns so they're kinda going for that, it's just those sets get overshadowed by the ones that give absurd damage bonuses. And even though Troubleshooter isn't realistic per se, I don't think it makes much sense that people who punch and kick things are doing more damage than the people who are using swords and hammers, even if they have brass knuckles.
>>2432590Martial Artists in this game are more about poise. They do massive damage, but it's conditional on either being in still stance or counterattacks.Swordsmen do a lot more of their damage unconditionally, and they have guaranteed crits on Forestallment that makes them difficult to approach for Martial Artists.White Knights shut down both classes with Neutralize Counters and outrank basic Swordsmen with Expected Risk screwing them out of Sen no Sen. They're the two-handed STR variant of Great Swordsman's DEX and break enemies' items with their powerful weapons.
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>>2432759lol
where's the best place to get oil sacs?
>>2432794I usually just buy them in bulk from the guy in Shooter Street, but they commonly drop from negooris and can be extracted from some higher-tier materials
i've done like 1 quest and i'm on the DLC, what have i been missingo ut on
>>2433002I beat the entire base game without doing the quests too lol. All you miss out on is a unique violent case with lots of animals to tame and a couple unique masteries with one really good one.
>>2433003do i have to do all of the quests i missed to get those?
>>2433002Mostly just some equipment which will be very underleveled at this point. But you can also get crafting recipes for equipment sets that can't be obtained anywhere else, some of them worth using.If you do the quests now, you actually get extra dialogue that wouldn't be there if you didn't have all the party members. So while it can be annoying to go back and replay a lot of earlier missions to do the quests, you'll also get to see some unique dialogue most people haven't seen.A tip for doing quests, take all of them from every NPC you can and try to get multiple quests done in a single mission to minimize how much you have to replay levels.>>2433003Same lol>>2433004Yes, at least all the base game quests. DLC1 adds a single quest, just to introduce joint drills. I think you also have to clear one of the regular side cases along with doing all those quests too.
>>2433007thanks anon i knocked out a couple mission quests and like 10 turn-in quests for one of the vendors that i had the stuff for already, really wish i knew about all those free purple potions keknow i need to actually make a decent mech for Kylie since i'm using a default piece of shit
Found a couple of fun builds on AsiaThis guy's got a really scary-looking Irene. Her numbers aren't that big, but she's got Lord of Hatred for 1% fire damage per % missing HP and Judgment for 40% of her missing HP as base damage. She relies on Lone Wolf to fix her terrible accuracy, but that would probably be easy for him to keep active considering she's got Pyromaniac, One Shot One Kill and Flames of Vengeance for le ebin chainkill build
The same guy also has this Leton, which I think is the first Leton I've ever seen running Overpower. He's got Unpredictable + Listening Energy + The Light of Martial Art's 3-piece bonus for a total of 85% flat block shred from his Forestallment, so he probably murders quite a lot of enemies outright.
Also he runs Skilled Military Strategist on his Giselle, which officially means he has god-tier taste
>>2433055That's a terrifying, horrifying and gruesome fursona. Sion must be a FREAKING psycho.
Huh, I think theoretically you could walk along the edges of map above the ceiling in 54v if you somehow got up there, since the combat preview shows it's possible to stand thereMaybe a yasha could do it
>>2433385I'm interested. Time to go exploring.
Too high for a Yasha, I think it's genuinely unreachable
A dorori might be able to get to it. I don't have a levelled one right now, but Fly Away has a really long range and Lava Dororis can get +1 range on their dive. The tile below it is 1.07 tiles up and the tile in question is at 10, so you'd need a 9-range dash or higher. Pretty sure Dororis can get to 13.
>>2433475 (me)A levelled lava Dorori with Spreading Fire is 10 range. Probably the safest bet, because 9 range might get screwed by some obscure diagonal calculation, or you might need to attack it from a tile away due to line of sight angle.
>>2433448>>2433475>10.7 tilesLightning Move is 12, so that's enough :)
>>2433490I can't actually move anywhere else once I'm up here, though
>>2433490Legend, I forgot about Lightning Move. Gotta get me a beast with that for out of bounds shenanigans.Yashas for going through walls, and Lightning Move beasts for crossing big gaps.
>>2433493Yeah, that's a given when there's only a single tile highlighted in the range finder >>2433385Still funny to see the camera angles from up there, though.
Another angleIt's pretty glitchy, the ceilings and walls keep flickering as I move the cameraThis poor little draki is going to be stuck up here until I beat the mission or lightning move comes off cooldown
>>2433055I don't think Sion would say thatBullying someone for being a furry seems more like something Giselle would do
>>2433496Would be nice if you could snipe from there.
how do i know if somethings tameable without getting myself in taming range? can i tame this nigga?
>>2433677You can tame all beasts of Epic rank and below. If you have 'Monster Taming', you can also tame Legendary rank beasts.However, Silver (which your Giselle cannot encounter anyway), Drakis, and Mungo King are exceptions.
>>2433677Other anon answered your question, but most Epic-ranked beasts are fully evolved versions of the smaller beasts and each stage unlocks different masteries, so it's usually more useful to catch and level the lower versions.Like in this case it goes Small Jade Crabmit -> Jade Crabmit -> Huge Jade Crabmit.Also, weakening enemies before taming makes things a lot easier. There's some adjustment based on level difference, but the default time it takes to tame something is 10% of their current HP, so trying to tame something with 3000 HP is going to take several hundred AT.
>>2433680>>2433685thanks anons, very helpful info
>>2433687And just out of spite, Bibi now prefers young, aspiring and regime-threatening dudes
is there any resource to look at finalized builds?
>>2433704to be more specific can someone share a good Sweeper build? i'm 3 or 4 missions into DLC1
>>2433687old guy on the left reminds me of Kylie's mentor
>>2433705I'm a huge sweeperfag and I used this for pretty much the entire game from about where you are, just adding masteries as I got points for them.The way to make best use of it is to use Sweeping Fire in Still Stance to try to kill multiple enemies at once, because that'll reset the cooldown completely. One Shot One Kill will activate if any of them dies at full HP, and Re-Mopup will activate if any of them survives.
This is the level 60 version so you can see how little I changed it
>>2433705I'm not gonna call myself good, and this build is far from optimal. But here's an alternative build. I just focused on getting a bunch of unconditional damage so I don't have to bother with still stance. I will note, equip the thing that gives you vigor on crit this build really needs it.
>>2433705Use You're Already Dead and I Know It All Already. You can then use Overwatch to get into a good Still Stance position, he'll get his turn back off of getting a kill with it. Then when you get your second turn off of Re Mop-Up you use Overwatch again. He'll likely get a kill off of it and then get another turn to Sweeping Fire and Overwatch. Mostly it just needs Vigor to be solved which either takes later available Spirit masteries or that Vigor on crit accessory another anon mentioned is good too.
>>2433782The vigor issues are why my one used Tension and Tough Spirit until I made that accessory. Combined they give +6 vigor recovery, and Overcharge's +1 overcharge duration lets you save an absolute fuckload of vigor when you're sitting in it spamming expensive moves several times per turn.
>>2433788Yeah, the options are fairly limited without going over to a full Spirit board. Anyway, something like this is what I had in mind here: >>2433782 This is pretty close to what I was running before I put together a Spirit board and I enjoyed it a lot spamming Overwatch.
>>2433729>>2433732>>2433781>>2433796thanks anons i appreciate you, seems like i'm mostly on the right track, i'll use these to refine my build when i play later. i wasn't looking for a 1:1 copy anyway just to get some ideas since Sweeper seems to have a lot of mastery set options>>2433782>You can then use Overwatch to get into a good Still Stance position, he'll get his turn back off of getting a kill with itoh fuck. i didn't think of this, mostly because my Heixing has been a fucking monster already without it kek i only just went back and got Re Mop-Up last night since i missed it before
stupid question but is backspace the same thing as using standby?
>>2433918Nope. Backspace is a full AT skip turn. Importantly it doesn't count as using an action point, while Standby does.
>>2433930how is the action point relevant if you use your turn anyway?
>>2433931Giganigga monke AKA Mungo King will take a turn if you spend one action point.
can i abandon mission as soon as i fill the quest objective?
>>2433944i arrested Javert and want to gtfo but don't want to have to do this again
>>2433944I wouldn't risk it for any of the item-based quests because of how loot is handled on failures, but it should be okay for civilian rescues, retrieve cargo and that kind of thing. Violent cases all let you leave early after a boss kill anyway.
>>2433931Some masteries (for witch and sweeper) depend on you specifically ending your turn in standby, I think using backspace also activates Quick Grasp of the Situation for enemies
>>2434188Quick Grasp of the Situation always activates if enemies see you end your turn. The exception is for the yellow/red/purple pre-combat states.
>>2434191I see, I misunderstood the descriptionI don't actually ever recall seeing it activate on an enemy when I used Stand By, but I play with animation speed turned way up so I don't always get to see the mastery pop ups before the camera jerks away :PAnyways it just hit me that Mungo King's annoying free turns are supposed to be QGotS on steroids. Nearly every other mungo has it and it fits well with their whole vision gimmick
>>2434480that's cool, was it something you made yourself?trim your nails, nasty
>>2434494Its from some korean on the steam forums
Gigachad spotted running a PVP party without Alisa. Also has a pretty cool Irene build.Other notable builds in his party are a Sen no Sen Overpower Albus with a Weight equipped, and his Misty is an Awaken build with Fade Into The Mist and Vicious Robber, I presume for item farming purposes.
Here's the Misty. I didn't notice her pitiful HP total until I started the match - Only 1007, with Impulse Fields to try to not die instantly. She doesn't have Giant Killer, which I think is a bit of a wasted opportunity
Her Attack masteries
>>2434648I don't see what's so notable about not using Alisa in joint drills, I do it pretty often. Barbarian loses a lot of its efficacy against only a few very strong enemies, and while White Knight is pretty good, it's not essential.>Battle Mage of Steelpatrician>Call of FirewtfMartial Artist would be better for a ESP to physical conversion, maybe he's just using BM for the vigor restoration but Irene has that ability that restores all vigor.
>>2434680It's notable because almost everyone runs Alisa>IreneHe's using Call of Fire so he can abuse Hellfire to shred buffs and restore HP with his counterattacks. It was actually pretty annoying.
I just realised Natural Recovery (restore 15% HP at the start of your turn if below 50% HP) is intended to push Anne above Impulse Fields' threshold whenever she takes her turn. With the set that doubles its recovery she could be very, very annoying.
Anyone got a good lvl45 DLC1 build for Leton? Started it recently and I'm not really sure what to do with him.
>>2434710pick martial artist and build him like a generic berserker.
>>2434722So the performance gimmick on superstar isn't worth it? Shame.
>>2434726superstar is a meme class so your stuck playing him as a generic martial artist or berserker
>>2434710full freeze with bonus ice grenades or full superstar cancer, MA is the real meme class
I don't know who to trust now.
>>2434726Performances are good, don't let anyone tell you otherwise. But it needs a lot of experimentation until you get used to how it works, and the achievement masteries to enable its really broken stuff.Anyway yeah, ice grenades work with Absolute Zero. I ran this for a while on one of my playthroughs. You chuck a grenade and follow up with ice spears. It works with MA as well, but not as effectively - I was abusing Delicate Move for cooldown management and Encore Performance + Improvisational Wrap Up for action point recovery. MA can use Delicate Move as well but it can't Finale on demand, and being able to Finale at all requires a bunch more masteries that Superstar doesn't need to have equipped.
>>2434739Trust the fact that in the thread's PVP tournament featuring people who minmax the fuck out of the game, literally everyone ran Superstar
>>2434710I agree with the other anons that superstar is better. Although I just run martial artist because I don't want to think about performances. The entire goal of this build is to get a ton of defence and then get a bunch of at increases on attack. Defensive choice and Gatekeeper are very necessary for +6% block per enemy in sight. The advantage of this type of build is that it's low maintanance
>>2434710It's a little annoying to get Ice Castle but this is a good start for aura slaving.
>>2434750wtf, are there records of this? who won? who lost? I need to know!
>>2434893https://arch.b4k.dev/vst/thread/2317766/#q2317816https://arch.b4k.dev/vst/thread/2317766/#q2357152Enjoy the tournament.
i really regret not doing quests as i did the missions, seems like there's a fuckton to catch up on
>>2434710I use him as a freeze bot, either class will do. Superstar can let him freeze multiple things in a turn and give him really quick turns while Martial Artist is a lot tankier and can still do a lot of damage for when freeze isn't effective.Freeze is extremely useful in DLC1 since there's a lot of high-block enemies and they're all melee so anything that immobilizes counters them hard. Pic rel was what I was using for DLC1 before I switched him to MA.When you unlock joint drills, you should do a round or two against the Street Thugs and Contractor factions because Oliver and Cheche drop unique superstar masteries there.>>2434739There's like one or two posters in these threads who have a hateboner for superstar and they have to assert how terrible the class whenever someone mentions it. The class requires you to read up on how performance effects and combos work and you have to plan your moves in advance, but if you can do that it's an extremely strong class with lots of AP and cooldown refreshes with the ability to give -40AT to allies and +40 AT to enemies in a huge range.
>>2434684An actual gigachad would have a team with no Giselle/Irene/Anne on it. Those are the real metaslave picks, teams that don't have Alisa are fairly common.
>>2435112I've ran Anneless teams in the past. If your units have good sustain she's not that necessary, and it lets you slot in someone who does good damage.Similar with Irene. She's a good unit, but if you're running Battlemage Sion and any Leton she ends up feeling the most redundant. I ditch her about a third of the time in my current team.I don't think I've literally ever seen a team with no Giselle, though. It means giving up beasts on top of her range. I guess Kylie with some kickass drones would be an adequate replacement, but anyone not using Giselle would either be a snowflake or trolling.
>>2435141I'd dare to say that Kylie, even without counting the drones, is pretty meta, she hit's like a truck, can give FREE turns and and the holograms stupidly strong, all while carrying utility (detection, casual hacking, etc). Add the drones and she's one of the best characters in the game.
>>2435141>anyone not using Giselle would either be a snowflake or trollingTrue, same for Kylie. On top of her ability to teleport and accelerate the turn order as desired, her drones can be nearly unkillable, grant huge extra sight and Reveal/Detected in case the enemy runs Misty, and serve as replacements for Second Heart for your entire party.You just need to make sure to feed them.
tips for 52 Gold Hand River Park? i'm getting gutted like a salmon
>>2435438That was where I hit a brick wall on my first playthrough, too.-Hunter Giselle is probably flat out better than sniper there, as her traps and beast summon work well for that situation where she's surrounded.-Sweeper vs. ranger Heixing is probably the same, depending on where he and Kylie are, he might not have access to good cover to make use of ranger masteries, while sweeper might be able to clear out one of the groups.-Web grenades and Anne's roots are useful for keeping the clowns off your ass and reducing their block.-If one of the duos can clear a group of clowns on their own, have them fight their way towards a duo that can't so they can reinforce.-Don't run your units near Sanson.-Counter builds work well here, if you have melee units that can tank the clowns' hits.-Maybe go back and get some equipment and change your builds up if you still can't kill the clowns before they get to all your units.-If you really need to cheese this mission, stick Awaken onto your units with good AoE ults (Sion, Anne, Leton, Bianca) and have them nuke the clowns while they're grouped up.
>>2435438>>2435441i actually scraped by on the same run i thought was doomed that made me post that, lmao. fun mission. i did it on normal though
>>2435438Mostly that map's a build check so my advice is just general anti-melee tips>use walls/tables/obstacles to minimise facings>your pairings' spawns are mostly random, except Sion/Anne/Albus always spawn in the same place>prioritise killing skeleton masks whenever possible>>2435441These are all good tips too. For more specific build recommendation, putting Sen no Sen + Overpower on WK Alisa or any Albus can do a massive amount of work on that map. There aren't many black clowns to fuck them up, so if you get enough damage you can kill half the map with 1 dude.
>>2435441>>2435447thanks for the rundowns, i'm going to do it again on hard before i go forward. i almost had it on my first attempt on hard but my next few tries i was getting destroyed instantly
>>2435446>fun mission.Yeah, it was one of my most replayed maps before Crimson Crow came out. It's an excellent build check and there are a bunch of good drops from it.I don't replay it as much after Crimson Crow because even with Challenge Mode the clowns get out-tiered.
>>2435448Bianca and Alisa will appreciate the EXP
>>2435441>-If you really need to cheese this mission, stick Awaken onto your units with good AoE ults (Sion, Anne, Leton, Bianca) and have them nuke the clowns while they're grouped up.It relies on spawning near a couple of benches, but I've cheesed the map with a Negoori in the past by using Gray Sniper (The Grey Eyes + Tongue Whip + Forestallment + Counterattack) combined with Overtpower (Forestallment + Final Blow + Alacrity + Concentration), Unpredictable (Forestallment + Counterattack + Overwhelm + Punishment) and elemental masteries for +100% damage to [ailment] targets.Just make sure you don't forget to put Veteran and some way of recovering HP on the frog or it will die in an unspectacular fashion, because black clown masks will still get attacks off on it.
>>2435455>OvertpowerOverpower*. I have no idea where the fuck that T came from.
Lined up
are there repeatable quests or are two of these so alike i'm hallucinating that i did this already
>>2435636The latter. There's definitely a finite amount of quests.
>>2435628Nice.
>>2435628>THREE characters with Luck activeDisgusting. Heixing looks like he's about to go on a killing spree.
>>2433781Just ran into someone on Asia using an endgame version of a build with a similar idea to yours, but instead of Breakthrough he's running Sharp Spirit with a SP setup for 50% flat block shred.
after discovering the albus bleed turn abuse and finding out about the draki scale from this thread I cruised through dlc1 without any issues. dlc 2 also seems to be pretty simple at the moment, though I'm not quite sure how to build misty. I'm basically using her for vision at the moment. i was expecting a faster turn dps character, but losing hide is really awful. also bleed is just not really reliable on albus at this point so i slapped machine hunter on him instead along with those defensive masteries to reduce AT on block. strategy wise i feel like the game is kinda solved cause all my frontliners are big enough that they can stall enemies long enough for giselle/heixing to kill them and anything that's left gets wiped with pincer/cover procs over and over. not really sure what the gimmick with the monkeys is but they are definitely not immune to bullets. i guess it's time to draw fanart and wait for the sequel.
>>2436007See how well your strategies work when Red Sand shows up in a mission or two
>>2436007>t. the soon to be raped
any tips for the bianca and alisa escape mission? good builds for them?
>>2436047ladder cheese
>>2436047put bibi on top of the tallest building with her blocking the ladder then shoot down at everyone else.
>>2436047I find White Knight to be safer than Barbarian on that map because a bunch of the enemies have powerful counterattacks and you can abuse bleeds. Physical Resistance 3 (blunt/slash/pierce resistance III) makes her very durable, and you can put Life Drain on her to sustain HP.Second Wind is mandatory on Bianca. Blood Wind helps a lot too.I normally don't turtle on top of a building, unlike other people. If you go down the nearest ramp in the back of the building you can push through the alley without too much difficulty, screwing hoodlums out of high ground and placing yourself at an awkward distance from the bulk of the melee enemies. Then you just run along the top of the road to the exit once enemies stop coming.
>>2436007>off model fanart
>>2436007If you would like to keep drawing, there might be a drawpile here for you to participate in. I'm not sure who hosted the last one and if there'll be another, but it seems likely that there will be, so keep your eyes peeled. There also should be a MEGA folder somewhere with a lot of the thread's OC. We desperately need more artists.
friendly reminder that homosexuality is banned in troubleshooterverse
>>2436051just setup white knight for the first time, which class is best for bianca? not just for this mission, in general also
>>2436082Both of Bianca's classes are pretty good but I think most people run her as a witch because it can 1) stack a crazy amount of buffs (Witch of Envy, Joyful Witch)2) give her extra uses of her Illusion ability, which can be made to have 0 AP, allowing her to remove all block and dodge from an enemy then follow it up with an attackBlack mage is still crazy strong on her for the raw damage and the Investigate Origin set can give her a ton of damage reduction when combined with Second Wind. I have a Black Mage build that gives her like 60% flat damage reduction from attacks, but it requires endgame DLC2 masteries.
i'm still getting killed with this ladder method, how am i supposed to position? there's so fucking many of them
>>2436082>>2436087Black Mage and Witch have about equal usage. Witch is cheesier but Black Mage is faster and more accurate. Just depends on playstyle, really.Bianca with the Blood Witch mastery set (Life Drain + Arresting Force + Origin of Life + another Witch mastery, iirc Witch's Jealousy) is extremely fair and balanced, though. Especially when outnumbered. If you put her Wind Kick in her ability bar she'll often blink in, kick the target and Wind Chain every enemy in a 4 tile radius when she triggers Cover or Pincer Attack.
>>2436091 (me)Found one of my Bibi builds from doing that mission on a past playthrough (she gained a couple of levels during the map). Don't be scared by the high TP, she's got +6 from masteries and you can drop Principle-ist as well.
>>2436074Bianca/AlisasSisters...Giselle/JaneSisters...Our yuricuckoldry is put to an end...
>>2436066I'm pretty sure the host for the drawpile was the same guy who did the tournament. He said he doesn't want to overdo them so we don't lose our creativity.
>>2436007>not really sure what the gimmick with the monkeys is but they are definitely not immune to bullets.
>>2436047I realized that I've never recorded a video of this mission. So I suppose you could this as a small reference for your own playthrough.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcuaIb5Z4g0I've done this solo, Cruel/Challenge, all difficulty modifiers on (except Limit Break), no healing items used, no item upgrades, with a level 55-scaled mastery board, with no masteries that aren't available at that point in the story. Unfortunately, I can't scale myself down to 55, but all the enemies are scaled up to me, so this should still be fairly accurate. Prioritize Jeff because all he does is spam traps and Jiaozhi, since he can easily deal a lot of damage by countering an Anger Strike. Nothing else in the mission poses a threat for Alisa otherwise. Considering you'll probably use Bianca, potions and not turn all the cbt mods on, this should be a walk in the park for you.I may do this as WK this way as well in the future, but considering that beating the whole game as a solo WK took me pulling out the stops on Limit Break, it might be a long while coming.>>2436177Yes, that's me. I think one pile per 3 months is a good compromise, but if there's enough interest, we can do it sooner. Unfortunately, we don't have enough artists OR just regular anons coming in to doodle for fun. The latter is the worst part, because we've definitely had more visitors on the pile than the 4 anons filling it up, but nobody was drawing anything. Please, just don't be scared and doodle on the canvas! Nobody's going to judge if you don't do it well, it's the effort and SOUL that matter.
>>2436387Is your game modded or something? Why is Jason so easy to kill there? In my game he has basically max stats on everything and keeps one-shotting both Bianca and Alisa, the only way I can beat that mission is by running to the exit before he can catch up.
>>2436410Oh yeah, there's a secret interaction if you play around in the Ryo fight that powers him down for the remainder of the game. This save was bricked from the start...
>>2436410>He didn't run away from ryo in the jason segment thus denying him his potentialAre you stupid or something?
>>2436410Why the fuck are you playing with that meme mod
>>2436008>>2436016if "Red Sand" or whatever else is Ben tier he will just get chipped by reaction fire until he walks into Irene and gets critted off one forestallment and die>>2436047not sure what you're having trouble with. Bianca mage with one shot one kill and catharsis and roar of victory is strong enough to just keep chaining kills. the only issue she has on that map is the two fat guys near a truck, opposite direction of the exit where you escape, otherwise she can solo clear the entire map. I don't even think she needs any setup with grinding masteries you don't have. Alisa is probably the weaker unit here as you need twilight of pain and some lunacy masteries to give her reliable immortality so she can hold the frontline. >>2436052I'm still figuring out how to draw irene. I just used a reference off google images and I'm not quite sure how her shirt works. At first I thought it was tucked in so it'd be tighter, but i guess it sits on top? I don't remember her belly being exposed in any of the CGs though. >>2436066sure. do you guys usually use drawpile or magma?
>>2436583It's not one guy, it's a whole faction designed specifically to fuck people who use strategies like yours. People who have no trouble with Mungos get raped by them, and people who get raped by Mungos have no trouble with them.
>>2436410>he used my jason mod
Is it ever explained why Visha was disowned and exiled to Valhalla, or how he (presumably) died?Sion and Rion looked up to him so I doubt he did anything horrible, but he seemed to be involved in glowie shit with Lily.
>>2425289>>2425364>>2425366In this CG that shows up in the gallery but which seems unused in the game, it looks like Albus has that sword on his back
Who the fuck is the sixth member of the Silverlining?He looks a bit like Ryo or Rion, but neither of those two were likely Troubleshooters 10 years ago.
>>2436659Also the portrait on the bottom looks like the unused mechanic character that was supposed to be like Kylie's dad maybe, I know he was Emil's dad but he and Emil never made it into the game.
>>2436649All we know is Visha died following "an accident" and whatever it was killed him slowly enough he was able to have a final conversation with his brothers. It might be connected in some way to the fact the Bloodwalkers were supposed to be an ESP farm, like he was born with weak ESP, or wanted to marry a commoner, but that's just my speculation.>>2436659Devs explained that on the Steam forums since they couldn't fit it in-game.He was named Jack, the older brother of Peter the merchant. He was the owner of the dog, which was named Silver, and was killed by a White Tiger sniper.
>>2436649No concrete answers, but my own theory is maybe he doesn't have ESP. The Ater Empire strips houses of their nobility if they go too many generations without an ESP user, and the Bloodwalkers are a famously powerful ESP family within the empire.
>>2436665I was sure Visha was a casualty in the Ramjist explosion but I don't think it's outright stated.
>>2436673 (me)Actually nevermind I forgot Visha was the one who told Albus about his parents dying in the explosion. My timeline is all wrong. He died from something else.
>>2436665>spoilerI see>>2436672That was my theory too. I doubt he would be allowed to work in Valhalla if he was exiled from the Ater Empire for a political or criminal reason.
I wish spirit masteries didn't interfere with each other so much or make each other redundant.Like, Overflowing Spirit would be nice to build around, but so many other spirit masteries increase the max SP a unit can have, which makes it harder to actually reach overcharge state, especially since spirit users can normally only get SP from using physical attacks, it kinda forces you to use Trance or Awakening.Great Morale and Integration into One increase the max amount of vigor (and rage) a unit can have, which would be nice to have, if both Overcharge and Subconscious didn't eliminate vigor/rage cost, one (or both) of which you're going to be running in a spirit-focused build. So that +100 or so vigor means nothing, you can't even have spirit black mages to get a ton of ESP from it.Optimism relies on outgoing attacks being missed/blocked and incoming attacks not being dodged/blocked, which is going to happen a lot less if the unit has spirit masteries equipped because they give a lot of block, dodge, accuracy, and block shred, so Optimism and its sets in a spirit build don't do anything, yet if it's not equipped, then you'll also be losing value from all the spirit masteries/sets that give bonuses for each spirit mastery you have equipped.Ebullient is nice for the blocked damage reduction, except again, spirit builds tend to get a lot of block shred, and one of the block shred masteries is needed for Ebullient, so it only really finds use against Final Resistance and absurd block chance enemies. Building around reducing blocked damage (like Castle Gate Breakthrough) instead of just flat block shred seems like it could be cool, but a spirit build is going to force you to do both.It's annoying trying to fit these masteries into my board because they feel like they're just going to make other spirit masteries pointless except for the "for every 1 spirit masteries" bonus they give, and it's hard to judge if they're worth keeping just for the minor stat increase
>>2436752>Overflowing Spirit50% damage reduction is a fuckload from a single non-set mastery. I see a lot of people chuck it on units for the hell of it even if they're not building AwakenAnd if you are making a SP build, you'll want Awaken and Argonaut anyway for the overcharge duration.>Great Morale and Integration Into OneIntegration Into One is a SP-stacking mastery that also gives speed. Great Morale is kind of mediocre though, and I say that as someone who occasionally runs Tension.>OptimismYou are so wrong with your assessment with it. Misses and blocked attacks happen a LOT due to Lightning Reflexes and Final Resistance. There's also a condition on one of the sets where it triggers if you suffer 10% of your max HP, which triggers all the time (it only takes 400 damage if you have 4k HP)>EbullientIt's an anti-Final Resistance set, and also lets you break through Movement on Silence + Pascal's Protective Gear abusers. It's a lot more useful in PVP than the main game, but it still fucks over Mungo King really badly.Also remember, you don't have to build every single Spirit mastery at once. You get bonuses for stacking them, but it's not as much as you'd get by using other masteries for those attributes. I think the only Spirit mastery that I hate is Morale Boost because Chance To Win never feels meaningful to stack, Support slots are so desirable on Spirit users and it's part of Commander's Spirit which I adore so it pisses me off that I have to put such a wussy mastery in for such a great SP-burning effect.
>>2436752Works on my machine, just let the Spirit sets carry you. Mostly the sets revolve around Determination - Optimism - Professionalism. If you don't want to do all that business then just grabbing Vocation is pretty good.
>>2436776All that said, the one that annoys me the most is The Will Beyond Extreme Will getting rid of Vigor/Rage costs when Great Morale/Integration Into One solves Vigor by itself. But The Will Beyond Extreme Will does slot into any build if you just want to specifically counter reaction attacks, so it's alright.
solo terrorism in pvp joint drills>>2436583>drawpile or magma?Drawpile. IIRC some people were against Magma because of the login bullshit or something like that, so I decided to host on Drawpile. I planned the next one to be somewhere around August, but if enough people yell at me, we can host earlier
>Pargle! Pargle! HAIL the CRAB KING!Followed the method suggested by anon in the previous thread, though I used Yasha's Sleep Poison mastery to put him to sleep instead of using Curse.And the AT formula for communion seems to be HP/20, so it took me about 80 AT to commune him. The success rate of persuading him to join is around 70%, though I'm not sure how it works.
>>2437049holy fuckpost some gameplay footage or screenshots of his turns when you can play as him
i ran out of quests, is there a way to unlock more or is that it? i'm on the final mission of DLC1
>>2437053I've already cleared this map. This screenshot and the previous one are the only two I have. I've never recorded gameplay on Steam before, and the video I just tried to capture threw an error right after I stopped recording, not sure why...Anyway, using him against Mungos isn't as good as I thought it'd be, because they have 'Mimic Evasion', and all of the Mungo King's skills share the same attack type.
>>2437064that's it
>>2437064Quests stop appearing after the end of the base game>>2437070they have 'Mimic Evasion', and all of the Mungo King's skills share the same attack type.true, that is an issue, I'd imagine it would also get annoying with how often he takes his turn
>>2437049>>2437070That's really cool, anon. Congrats.
I bought your game on the sale
>>2437178Now put 300 hours into it.
>make build centered around getting turns back up as fast as possible to reset forestallment>end up getting turns so fast, enemies rarely ever activate forestallmentMaybe I should've built around Overpower instead, but that sucks to use with Sen no Sen since it makes Final Blow and Concentration redundant
>>2437192It's kinda sad when you keep killing enemies before Forestallment comes around, but it still usually gets some use and if you have that kind of firepower you can probably afford the slot anyway. Not exactly suffering, more like succeeding too much.
>>2437192Concentration and Final Blow are still useful on your own turn, especially if you're a Magic Knight who can throw out Gentle Gust to cull low HP enemies through whatever autododges they have.
I find myself using beast summons less and less these days.Maybe it's because I mostly use Sniper, but they're all so fucking slow, none of them get to do anything unless I build them around Lunatic Beast or some shit like that. It's gotten to the point where summoning a beast feels like a waste of AP since I know I'm going to have cleared a third of the map before it gets its next turn.How do you guys make beasts useful?
>>2436659>spoilermaybe Mert wasn't a complete jobber after allwhy does Don have a portrait of young Karl Lane on the wall though, that's a bit odd
>>2437213Chasing Training and/or Support Training helps a lot. Using the Retraining button is important once they're fully evolved and in the green loyalty.
can i unequip shit to get this achievement?
>>2437223YesI got by only equipping her hologram ability, making sure I didn't have any items/masteries that gave her extra protocol counts, and just having her spam holograms while my other units cleared a mission. Do it for both of Kylie's classes since they both have masteries for running out of protocols.There's a similar thing for Ray and her healing spray, it doesn't matter what class you do it on her though, the mastery it gives is only for alchemist.
>>2437223When you do the similar one for Misty, don't forget that her Six Path Samsara jutsu from her individual mastery is classified as Ninjutsu, so it'll prevent you from getting the achievement if she has it equipped and not used.
what the fuck do i do on the first mission of DLC2? i get killed immediately
>>2437288it's a stealth missionpress i and read all of misty's masteries and abilities, it will help a lot
>>2437288You can pretty much ghost the mission. Killing Suevo is free, though. Sometimes Ming Lee gets a really annoying spawn in the security room, but usually the map's doable with one or two kills.Quick rundown on Misty's starting masteries' effects>Stealthily + Master of Concealment allows her to move through enemies' detection range on her own turn without breaking Hide>she has a set that recovers an action point if she puts an out-of-combat enemy out of action, and if she's not visible to any other enemies she'll auto-hide again>her cooldowns recover very quickly when killing enemiesAlso there are stairs up to the inside corridor in the back-right of Suevo's room. I didn't know that for quite a while and it made the pathing a lot easier when I found out.
what's the best way to farm money?
>>2437213Just make a tank with Curse and Giant Species and let the enemy team put themselves to sleep trying to kill it.
>>2437317Violent cases in general. The back half of Crimson Crow has some very lucrative story maps too.
>>2437317I don't think I've ever had money issues in this game, and I scrap all my trash items instead of selling them.What the other anon said, late game violent cases drop a boatload of cash if you full clear them because of all the bounties that end up in your inbox. Specifically 46v has a several high-payout wanted men, destrons also get you a lot of cash, and I think all the unique mungos in 58v count too.You could also check the activity report and take on districts that increase money rewards, but I don't know if that gives any significant returns or not.
>>2437317Join EVERY merchant district. You will get a big chunk of money + a universal discount on every shopkeep.
>>2437317Selling materials from Draki's Nest is the most lucrative in my experience, it usually returns around 100k a mission.
>>2424379I'm still waiting...
>>2437652Dandi's not doing so well
the ghost of draki king haunts the caves long after his death
>>2437652I only said that because I saw dandy say that.
>>2437652There's still 4 days till the end of the month>>2437655I hope Dandy doesn't consider every feedback they get. In this case I agree with the reviewer that relationship decay is ass, but it's a non-issue by the DLCs since the party limit is increased to 12 for most missions so you no longer have to choose someone to leave out. In a lot of cases, complaints just seem like skill issues and I don't want Dandy to take the game in a schizophrenic direction in the sequel because they listened to contradicting feedback.There's always going to be people who hate a game just because it doesn't appeal to their tastes. Like 90% of Troubleshooter appeals to my specific brand of autism and I would be upset if they changed too much in the sequel.>>2437728spooky
>>2437655I have faith in Dandy. Pretty much the only dev I'd buy an EA game of.
>>2436958>in pvpwtf I glanced over this at first because I thought it was just PvE vs player teams.If I actually lost in PvP to a single character when I had level 60 equipment, I'd probably just stop playing the game in shame.Did they not have starlight prison or any way to remove Alisa's rage buff? Or were you using a rampage build?>>2437756I'm going to buy Banish Children at full price as soon as it's available to support their development
>>2437756>>2437776if Dandy sent me a pm saying "waddup nigga let me get $20" i'd send it with zero hesitation
If you had to design an annoying/unfair enemy faction, what units and masteries would you put in it?I have an idea for a faction centered around poison and acid clouds. The faction mastery would probably give something like +50% accuracy when using ranged attacks against targets in smokescreen, so they don't screw themselves over with all the clouds they'll be making. All units unless otherwise specified would be equipped with gas masks in their main equipment slot.>rogues with Pouring Poison and Night Mist + Sneak Through Mist + Escape Plan to be extremely hard to kill and deal bonus damage when in poison clouds>rangers have This Is The End to spread more poison and clouds and acid grenades>grenadier using acid bottles to spread more gas clouds along with upgraded frag grenades in their grenadier's bag slot for unavoidable 3k damage grenadessince this faction would work best in enclosed spaces where your team wouldn't be easily be able to go around the clouds, a couple of other unit types could be used there to double up on the AIDS>sweepers with I Am Legend + I'm Ready>melee units with Sen no Sen or some other forestallment setand for unique/boss units:>alchemist with immortality and regen potions to be extremely hard to kill, bookworm to clear all debuffs, and maybe explosive compound to whittle your units and counter final resistance>maybe a hunter with poison traps and poison-focused beasts>maybe an assassin just because it's a rare class with thief masteries
>>2437829I've brainstormed ideas for Vendetta units in the past>Hunters with Blood Red Bullet + Camouflage + Headshot masteries>Rogues with Hide>elemental Ninjas, also with Hide>Rangers with Darkness Hunter + Revenge Fire + Positioning>Slaughterers with Sen no Sen>Sweepers with Metallic Muscle Armor + Lunatic Beast + Macho Man
>>2437829>>2437835They already did this with the Yashas in the abanonded factory, but a faction where every unit has Sacrifice equipped as a default mastery would be super cancerous to fight simply because you'd barely get any turns in.
>>2437829Also an enemy faction that has martial artists with one-inch punch and lunatic beast would be ass to fight against, basically the worst parts of the skull masks and black clown masks combined. Maybe throw some knockback/stun/freeze immunity on there to get rid of their biggest counters. I don't think it would fit with my fart cloud faction though>>2437835>Hunters with Blood Red Bullet + Camouflage + Headshot masteries>Rogues with HideI think rogues with hide would be a bit too easy to counter since the game gives you a lot of options to dispel hide across large areas. As best maybe one or two of them would slip through and kill a unit.Camo hunters would work a lot better since they can stay out of range of reveal abilities. Especially if they have overwatch, then a player would be likely to move their units right into a guaranteed crit from a camo overwatch shot, and if they have surprise attack it would do even more damage, and if they have the gunman sets that give -AT on kill then the hunters would immediately get their turn back to refresh hide + overwatch (this is fun to run on Giselle)>elemental Ninjas also with HideWould be cool to see what kind of abilities earth and wind ninjas could use. Wind SP goes well with hide for the bonus crit damage, while earth ninjas would be pretty tanky>>2437841The yashas in 47v are particularly annoying since the baby ones keep spawning from the eggs until they're destroyed. But a faction like that could be kinda countered by having lots of reaction attacks, like from a ranger or barbarian so your team can deal damage off their turn.
>>2437844>But a faction like that could be kinda countered by having lots of reaction attacks, like from a ranger or barbarian so your team can deal damage off their turn.A faction with Comradeship on their snipers
>>2437841>>2437907If Carter ends up being a boss in Banished Children, I hope he and the spoonists have something like Sacrifice and Comradeship just for the annoying synergy with Phoenix and his individual mastery
>>2437911Dandylion tends to be pretty big on personality-based boards for named characters so it'd be a pretty big change if he had masteries like that. He's got the slots for it, though.Also this made me realise Carter hasn't got a Joint Drills version.
>>2437929>Dandylion tends to be pretty big on personality-based boards for named characters so it'd be a pretty big change if he had masteries like thatI do like the subtle storytelling in some of the masteries and equipped items that characters have.Both Comradeship and Sacrifice belong to the Altruist set, which wouldn't be out of character for Carter at all.>Also this made me realise Carter hasn't got a Joint Drills version.It wouldn't make much sense to have both him and Sharky in joint drills, and Sharky is a battlemage there, I guess to bring more similarities between the two. Also Sharky has Revolutionist in joint drills which is another little mastery personality thing, I bet, along with the fanatic's modifier on his bangle.I remember seeing a post on the Steam forums with someone complaining that Carter is a boring character, when he's anything but, probably one of the most complex and interesting characters in the story. He was the only character I cared about when I first started playing the game. I guess if you're not really paying attention to dialogue or miss some optional scenes, it can be kinda hard to get what he's about.
>Red beast with water ESP>Blue beast with fire ESPHow did Dandy come out with unironically peak beast designs like this?
>>2437966All of the beasts are valid, I love them...
>>2437966The red negooris and Crimson Cloud being water ESP is probably just a consequence of water also encompassing poison and acid, but every beast in 47v is also a mutant of some kind.Personally I think Blue Teeth looks cool as hell, and the glowing spots on the mutant and red negooris is also pretty neat. I like the dark mutant drakis too.
>>2437933Nice detail showing that Na-am is good at throwing.
>>2438049>aww, look at that kid throw a ball around>he'll be great at lobbing molotov cocktails later
>>2437776it was just me playing against a newbie friend who'd recently finished the game, so it all came down to not really knowing what to expect. Otherwise it's impossible to find people to play against on EUwhen I was new I got most of my team members wiped by a single drone when I played against an anon from here, so it's not that uncommon to see sweeps like that against noobsas for the build, it's an extra special personal recipe :)
Are any of the two hunter enemy's pets worth taming? I ask in the sense that they play meaningfully differently or do something more fun compared to other beasts that are easier to grab.
>>2438149>I ask in the sense that they play meaningfully differentlyThey have different abilities compared to their basic counterparts. Can't really judge if they're mostly better or not, though.Crimson Cloud has acidic poison instead of regular poison, Crimson Pig has earth ESP abilities instead of physical ones, Crimson Fang has Hatred and a fire AoE ability. Blue Flame isn't that much different from the Volcano Crabmit, and Blue Glutton has more offensive abilities instead of healing compared to the Albino negoori.Blue Teeth is a straight upgrade to the other lightning timas though, it has most of their same abilities but also Turning Over A New Leaf.
is there a list of which achievements give rewards
>>2438177https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1971619284 Descriptions of Achievements that Unlock Masteries I think it's missing some but that's pretty close.
Anons fight about how superstar is good or dogshit meanwhile I somehow perma bricked my save by beating the achievements for the class but it never gave me the cheevo reward masteries.
>>2438382You can probably get them off of Joint Drills eventually.
>>2438382I doubt it's bricked. The achievements and masteries are supposed to unlock at the same time, but they're not actually linked to one another. On new files you still have to complete the requirements for example, and Steam might record you as having done more of their requirements than the game does for one reason or another.>>2438385Yeah you can. The joint drill versions of Cheche and Oliver have all of them between the two of them.
>>2438049>Throwing High>Long Toss>Upgraded Explosive Compoundit's cute to see Turk before everyone else's growth spurts made him look like a manlet too
*misses*
is there a bis gear list?
>>2438562It'd be a difficult/impossible task because different builds want different items, and a lot of commonly-used items like the Durnames S - MP are popular because they're convenient to farm
can someone spoonfeed me a good albus great swordsman build?
>>2438562https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2247536935This is missing a few DLC2 items but otherwise it's very useful to consult. As far as best gear goes, totally depends on the build, but some particularly good low level items are:>Indigo Cyrus Sneakers, Black Iron Flash Boots, Flashlight Black-Iron Leather Coat, Indigo Draki BootsI'm using all those in some endgame builds. >>2438567Here's what I think are the core sets. There are some cool additional Wind masteries to round it out at the end of DLC2, or just do whatever. You might not have some of these masteries but they'll all be available, Albus is just a needy bitch with both his classes like that, needs a lot of rare masteries.
>>2438567My most recent playthrough's GS ended up like this. You can drop the level requirement by swapping Overwhelm for Honesty and Muscle Training + Open Mind for A Strict Refusal.Use Sturdy Headgear in the gear slot for stun immunity if it becomes a problem, but I yoloed him the whole game without too much hardship. Second Wind + Phys Res 3 is a LOT of defence.
I've been using a build similar to this but without Blade Phantom for hundreds of hours and it's done me well, only recently I realized I could easily slot Blade Phantom in it for more AT reduction and healing. The build is focused around tanking and getting turns up as fast as possible to refresh Sen no Sen.You'll need a sturdy headgear for the gear slot so he isn't vulnerable to stun, I also like to use the demolisher's set on him for field effect and bleed immunity, then once you reach endgame you can replace that with a serpent's scale wristguard and yellow serpent sneakers.
I've been thinking some more, and I think the only character with clear BIS options is Misty with her daggers, and even then it's a 3-way tie between the Crimson Crow for cooldown, the Blood Red Razorclaw Dagger from Black Mask for guaranteed bleeds on crit, and the Serpent Fang from Ortega for ESP builds.
>>2438596There aren't a lot of options for daggers to begin with, and yeah Ortega's dagger is pretty much a straight upgrade to the unicorn dagger while Misty doesn't really need block reduction from the generic razorclaw/demon slaying ones, meaning all the non-legendary/unique daggers get outclassed.The darkstalker dagger has a somewhat useful effect and can be worth using for the set bonuses, so there's more like 4 best-in-slot options. It's pretty easy to choose between them depending on your build, too.Gregori's sword is clearly best-in-slot for ESP Albus, and I would say for Kylie, her set Mono and Vivi is the best for hacker protocol maximization, while the mushrooms are the best for ESP damage, and the V8 is best for physical damage.Heixing also has some pretty obvious best-in-slot weapons, the S - MP has decent all-around stats and a nice bonus effect while the 333 S can be good for builds that don't rely on crits and focus more on still stance/player turns. I wish there was a machine pistol with the same bonus effect as the level 50 snipers though, that AT reduction would be so nice as a ranger when his responsive attacks don't get a kill.
>monkeys looting a store>2020 game pottery
>>2438865They are so cute for enemies I utterly despise.
Mungo King + 100 Mungos of all types vs All 4 special destrons and 50 red sand soldiers of all typeswho wins?
>>2438874me
>>2438874i don't think the Mungos have any answer for Meister or Schildswordmungos could at least hit Meister sometimes with Sen No Senmaybe if gunners got their Luck back
>>2439094Doesn't mimicking attack cuck dodge units like Meister?
>>2438874>>2439094>>2439101I think that Mungos couldn't deal nearly enough damage to deal with Pascal's special destrons.Schild alone could probably solo them.
>>2439121Do they need to kill them though? The grenadiers alone could keep them in permanent AT hell.
>>2439121The lack of damage is a point in their favour because it means no Emergency Drive.I think 100 Mungos would have a hard time dealing with 50 Red Sand units though, even without the giga destrons being involved. The only Mungos with Lightning Reflexes are the Fighters and Mungo King, so they'll get raped with Overwatch by the Rangers and trade badly into the snipers.
>>2439190Mungo king could probably soak up a ton of that overwatch fire.
>>2439198I dunno, 3 lightning reflexes isn't that much when you're dealing with overwatch + fire support + resistance shot + punishing shot, and as soon as they hit him they're going to fuck him up with Hemorrhage headshots.
>>2438874Red Sands kinda counter mungos with all their off-turn reaction shots and high accuracy, since mimicking evasion doesn't work when it's a mungo's turn. The snipers also can attack from out of a mungo's sight range. I think they could do it without the destrons even, if they were on a favorable map.>>2439121>>2439190Some mungos do a fuckton of damage, they had absurd base stats and level 55 equipment, they don't really have any options for armor break though.
Banished Children news tomorrow!
tips for the mission with White Hat? i just got bent the fuck over
>>2439319The main thing to look out for is Mimicking Evasion. It's not a problem until you miss, so be picky about your shots. That's kind of hard because the Mungos have high evasion so equipping more accuracy can help. Sometimes Mimicking Evasion comes up anyway, in that case you need to use a different damage type. For instance if they have Mimicking Evasion on Shooting up, you have to use Fall or Melee attacks instead.
>>2439319I could write a wall of text. I won't.Equip Tough Spirit, don't melee Swordsman Mungos because they have Sen no Sen, hover over green monkey icons to check the attack types that are being auto evaded and don't overextend.Wind Veil, Furious Lightning Gale and similar effects that make you immune to AT delay help a lot too.
>>2439319White Hat has ranger masteries so treat him like you would any other ranger, flank him or put revealed on him to bypass his cover move (assuming he doesn't have mimicking evasion).Any ability that has "unavoidable" or mastery/effect that gives "always hit/crit" will bypass mimicking evasion, same thing if you can put a status effect that makes them unable to dodge, like Bianca's illusion. Mimicking evasion also goes away when a mungo starts their turn, which makes overwatch and forestallment an easy counter to them.
>>2439320if they have Mimicking Evasion on shooting i just keep shooting them because it only gives them 3 evadesgod bless Heixing and his infinite bullet spam
>>2439101try running a tame mungo into Meister and find out! :Di think Blue Eyebrow could be built to kill Schild with freeze, ice bolt, armourbreak and a bit of luck? wouldn't have enough AT suppression to do it solo
>>2439353I think Blue Eyebrow could do it. Battlemage masteries make getting to 36 AT pretty easy, Ice Bolt with the set to make it +20 AT on hit, Overwhelm for an extra attack per turn that gets offset by Magic Explosion + Enough Rest or whatever, Cover To Cover + Best Condition etc.Not sure if the anon intended Blue Eyebrow in the hypothetical though. He and his goons don't usually do very well against Red Sand in 60V either.
Huh, I never knew it was possible to get Luna playable along with Albus in that one mission and that they have special dialogue between the two of them.I always thought Luna would only become playable if both Anne and Albus get KO'd, but apparently all it takes is Anne getting defeated by the spoonists.
bibi le booty
>>2439711Good work, for a second I thought it was THAT artist with THAT fetish.
>>2439445Luna is so cute and hot.
>>2439781stand still
>>2439711All we ever spoke of were titswe need to get some ass appreciation going
>>2439853>give misty a skintight spy outfit>nerf her assDANDY!!!!!!!!!!
>>2439853Butts? Aren't reliant on size, shape and firmness matter too.
>>2439877Heart-shaped is where it's at.
>>2439781Do you think Marco did it with her? I mean, she's just a disposable asset after all, Vendetta wouldn't care, right?
I just realized the fire swordsman's legendary glowing sword is just Kirito's sword from SAO
>>2439889Marco, nah, all business no fun. I bet Luna teased him a lot tho to see if he would assault her.
>>2439894Damn brat! She really needs correction.
>>2439853Kylie's flat ass
In Banished Children, hunting mechanics will be extended so that beasts drop cooking ingredients, which you use to make meals to give your party food bonuses, since the party will be unable to drop by a bar and order food and drinks whenever.
>>2439972Etrian Odyssey 2 Untold did this and it was fun.
>>2439972kino!
why are you guys like this?
>>2439867misty's dlc outfits were a great idea with horrible execution
what the fuck is the counter for all of the fire support and overwatches in this piece of shit? god damn this map has me seething
>>2440121it's one of the hardest story maps in the game, along with the two final story missions
>>2440121Alisa
D-did they delete the forum post that said there would be more news on the sequel by the end of June?
>>2440194I think they did delete it. The specific wording was end of the month, but the most recent post is from the suggestion thread.
NEXT GAME any day now...
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>>2439972You think there will be mutli stage missions? I.e having 2 consecutive missions with the health and vigor of your party carrying over.
>>2439972Are news out?
>>2440294lol>>2440445no, I just made that up, it's a feature I think would be cool but I honestly wouldn't mind if they removed motivation and food buffs altogether
>>2440121If you're still struggling with that map, use Sion with Furious Lightning Gale or a spirit unit with Subconscious (drops from Marco in joint drills) to eat all their responsive attacks before engaging.It also helps if you play very defensively and hole up in the buildings or one of alleyways, alternatively try to approach them from the alleyways instead of the main ramp in the center of the map.Punishing Shot only works if the attacking unit is >10 tiles away, so once you get close to the snipers, you won't have to worry about that. The snipers have impulse fields, so be prepared for that. If only if there was a unit that had a multi-hit basic attack and could easily approach snipers without being seen...
>>2440738>If only if there was a unit that had a multi-hit basic attack and could easily approach snipers without being seen...Kylie, send in the drones with Optic Camouflage.
>>2440121Most of Red Sand's units have Hemorrhage, so crafting Demolisher's Wristguards for your front liners reduces their damage by quite a lot. Also, their snipers have +75% damage to exposed targets so try to make sure you're next to cover as much as possible, even if you're being flanked.> Subconscious (drops from Marco in joint drills)The named enemies in Misty's introduction map have it too if that's considered too cheesy. Although Joint Drills were introduced well before Crimson Crow, so it's fair game. I still haven't made up my mind if the early access to 60V's Spirit masteries via Jim/Bomy/Bouncy/Ming's joint drill versions is cheese or not. Those teams were added after Crimson Crow, but maybe Dandy added those masteries to them specifically so they'd be available early
>>2440742Drones can also avoid a lot of responsive attacks with the right set, so they're actually quite useful against the Red Sands>>2440743>so try to make sure you're next to cover as much as possibleThis is probably the most important advice and I completely forgot to mention it myself.Draki's Perfect Scale
>>2440745Tamed Mungos are really good on those maps too, especially the throwers and gunners. 3x Lightning Reflexes + 3x Mimicking Evasion makes them pretty safe.
can someone post a endgame heixing sweeper build?
>>2440801>>2433729>>2433732>>2433781>>2433796
>>2440801My current one's already in the thread >>2433732But here's a meme one from another file. Wouldn't recommend running without a Demolisher Wristguard and Draki's Perfect Scale.
>>2440801Similar concept to >>2433796 but now comes with Vigor being a nonissue, not caring about enemy Block and getting turn resets, lots of free buffs and getting turn resets off of Close Suppressive Fire.
>>2440812I have a similar hybrid build in my folder, too. A lot less focused on responsive fire, with more focus on Sweeper sets.
how the FUCK do i handle these destron NIGGERS on Iron Forest Secret Base? i have no problems with this shit until they come out
>>2440821Yeah, they sure are rude, aren't they?
>>2440821You can freeze them as long as they don't have the red Overheat aura up. That usually makes pretty quick work of them because it guarantees headshots from Heixing and Giselle.Destroy Weapon utterly fucks their offences because they're machines and don't have non-equipment sources of attack power.Engineer Kylie can assblast them a few different ways. Hacker has a much harder time, ironically.Lots of different ways to deal with them, too many to get detailed with just a nebulous "They're too hard" type post.
>>2440821I don't know.I cleared 60s like a dozen times on hard before the information requirement nerf to unlock all modules, but I can't actually articulate how to kill destrons. I just subconsciously move my units in a way that destroys them without taking any casualties.Freezing them helps a lot. So does ranger Heixing's "I Can Do This" set. You need enough damage to bypass their special armor, but there's an upper limit to how much damage you can deal in a single hit due to damage absorbing. They get a free turn if you do enough damage though, so be aware of that. They have a lot of responsive attacks. That's all I can really give you.
>>2440821Alisa, again
Why do they call her Miss Tea?
Dandylion never announced that there would be news in June.
>>2440923God she is so hot. Please step on me and call me names.
>>2440923Because she's bad at Golf
>>2440923She pees into tea leaves to make a unique potion that restores all your vigor and health. Its why her other nickname is pissty.
>>24408211. All their stats are from items, weapon break and armor break completely gut their lethality and durability.2. Ranger heixing rapes them with his unique anti-robot mastery I can do this!3. WK alisa also rapes them with tons of weapon/armor break and getting a million hits off of stopping enemy counters and bladestorm.4. Kylie can also hack them to steal one as a meatshield or just shut them down.
>>2440957I would drink that on a daily routine.
>hmmm we need a name for our new character>she is an elite assassin with water powers>*some guy sprints to the computer*>*googles synonyms for water*>*opens google translate*>what is mist in english>what is hunter in german>URETHRA!>misty jaegerI kowtow to Dandy's naming schemes, same with bianca's last name being the french word for white because she wears all black and hates her dad.
>>2440997>not drinking it straight from the tap
>Bianca - anal>Misty - waterworks>Giselle - yjkwhat else we got
>>2441010Anne fucks adventurer dororiRay is an elite level prostitute (think tiamanin ninja girls)Irene is probably ryona and mindbreakidk about kylie or alisa both are too vanilla
>>2441006It's a matter of process. Of course i would drink her pee directly from her but this is process we are talking about.
>>2441011>Irene is probably ryona and mindbreakYou have no fucking idea how much i wish that's true. Those are my fav tags and irene is my waifu.
>>2441014She is 2koma bait as a character which is why they fit. Easy material for hypnosis stuff like the clowns tricking her into thinking defeating villians means having sex with them or something.
is there any resource that just has endgame builds for everyone? i don't want to keep asking ITT but i can't find shit that's up to date and actually has builds
>>2441498You could dig through the archives of these threads, we love buildposting.
>>2441498the main appeal of this game (for me at least) is coming up with your own builds, since there are so many options and playstyles
tips for the 2nd misty solo mission? how do i initiate combat without him attacking me first?
>>2441521Use Hide yourself and look for the tile you can't stand on, because that's where Ortega is.Hit Mash with Wave Kick when he comes in. There's nothing he can do about Silence.
>>2441521
>>2440923>Miss>miss again>miss x12>missT_T
>>2441610>450 AT worth of Distraction pops up
I started a new company not too long ago the early game is so much worse than I remember.>everyone has very little move distance so a lot of turns are just spent getting from point A to point B>everyone has terrible accuracy, so lots of misses and dodges>everyone has vigor issues so you have to use vigor restoration every several turns>total TP limit is easily reached and there's not a lot of options for masteries or gear, meaning little build variety>stuck relying on VHPD unitsI guess a lot of that stuff makes sense when introducing new players to mechanics but as someone who has spent hundreds of hours on end-game saves, it's just hard to adjust to. The terrible accuracy has me using some abilities I wouldn't ordinarily use though, like Albus's AoE wind ability, and some status effects which would otherwise be ignored (like burn and shocked) actually do considerable damage when everyone has like 400 HP, which is interesting after playing a while on a 100% save.If I didn't want to make a PvP team on the Asia server, I would just go back to fucking around on my end-game save.
>>2441705The TP starvation is real, especially if you're playing with Limits to Growth, but accuracy is solvable with Hunting Dog and/or One By One, both of which are available extremely early.
News doko?
>>2441827So pretty.... <3
>>2441827Is Ari going to be a quirk chungus?
>>2441854She looks like she'll be your typical male JRPG protagonist.
>>2441854Irene but grey haired and bigger tits. I mean irene IS her hero how do you think her brain works?
>>2441854She's going to be the Korra to AC's Aang (irene).>proof?It came to me in a dream
What if Dandylion is just being shy with the news updates because they don't want to keep spoiling plot points that would be more dramatic to see in-game
can someone spoonfeed me builds for misty and alisa? i can't decide what class to use on them
>>2441970>AlisaYou've opened the floodgates. Prepare your ass. >>2436776 Anyway, I have one Alisa build there for Barbarian.
>>2436776thanks anon!
>>2441970Barbarian is the most overpowered class in the gameit's pretty easy to build, you just need the core sets of Final Resistance + Lunatic Beast + Tenacious Barbarian Warrior and the Anger Strike mastery to really get it going. Then you'll want to tack on something like Cry of the Wrath or Rampage so Alisa can keep a rage state active at all times, and Wildcat Engine lets her chain kill Anger Strike. Use at least the 3-piece Berserker's item set on her to fix her accuracy issues.White Knight isn't a bad class at all, I can post a build for it if you would rather use that.I was thinking it would be funny if I told you that ninja was the best class in the game but really it kinda sucks and is only redeemable thanks to the overpowered water SP sets like Tsunami. Rogue is just so much better unless you really want that ESP damage.
>>2441979As for WK I tend to make boards revolving around Combat Stance, Adept Combat Stance is insanely good with 20% Block and ignoring AT delay, it makes it very easy for the class to hit 100% Block. You also have access to Swordsman masteries so Sen no Sen is as potent as always, with Marching Master and Vocation it's also easy to be very fast and reset your turns frequently. I do feel like the Barb build I made ended up having almost all of these things other than Sen no Sen and Shout of Concentration being less reliable than Combat Stance. I wanted to work on it more but I never got around to it and I'm sure other people will have other WK builds. Energy Suit might look kinda weird but the only thing that was really killing it was ESP stuff.
>>2441984This is the Rogue build I use
>>2441989I have no idea why I'm using Hunting Dog in that build, maybe just to complete the set?I think maybe Circumpolar Current would be better, to get Hide back up faster
>>2441970Not much to say about Rogue. Is good at stabbing things hard and dodges a lot of bullshit while doing it while being fairly bulky. Best used at night. Ninja has a lot of complicated gimmicks based around using stuff that gives Smokescreen status like Mist and Water Release Technique. Again, extremely gimmicky build with many rare and annoying to get masteries that is also missing some key sets because it just can't fit some stuff. Also best used at night.
thanks for all the spoonfeeding bros, trying out the Barbarian and Ninja builds. can i see some heixing builds as well? and is there any resource on where the best gear is found?
>>2442014>and is there any resource on where the best gear is found?check the crafting menu and troublemaker info
>>2442014>can i see some heixing builds as well?Is your squad composed of 8 heixings plus an extra dlc heixing from the dlc white lion and alley fox?
>>2442023i wish. what's the benefit of ranger over sweeper? i haven't tried it yet
>>2442027It plays real nicely with Fire Support. He more passively kills stuff with lots of supportive fire.
>>2442029 (me)Probably a bit more reliable to drop You're Dead Already for Ebullient and Passionate Brawler, though. >-Conc, Headshot, Fixed Fire>+Will to Fight, Overwhelming Spirit, Sharp SpiritAlso there's another Ranger build here >>2436776 that drops Fire Support in order to better cycle turns off of You Won't Catch Me Off Guard's Overwatch.
>>2442027being literally invincible in cover is nice
>>2442027Ranger is one of the best classes in the game alongside barb.
>>2442027You can be the darkest nigger in Valhalla.
>>2441970Dumping a few of my own buildsBarbarian Alisa. This one's a verified menace in PVP.
>>2441970White Knight Alisa 1/2
>>2441970White Knight Alisa 2/2
>>2441970Rogue. This variant isn't that good defensively though, I'm seriously considering switching Steel Armor for Lightning Reflexes. It does tons of damage though.
>>2442014I don't have any notable ranger builds. It's seriously one of the easiest classes to build, which turns me off it. The game is stacked with optimised Ranger enemies too
>>2442081>>2442082>>2442129it's so fucking fun to sweep though i can't imagine giving it up
>>2442119>>2442120>>2442122>>2442124thanks anon, care to share Ray and Kylie? probably Alchemy and Engineer but I can be swayed
>>2442136NTA but this is a very simple grenadier Ray build focused around crits and block reduction, no item fuckery required.I made it at the start of DLC1 and haven't had to change it one bit after like a hundred hours.
>>2442136Current playthrough's Engineer designed around wind grenades, as featured in >>2430268Someone else is bound to have a more standard one.
>>2442136Current playthrough's Alchemist, built more as a support unit but does some pretty decent damage from Still Stance. I'm about 70% happy with her build.
>>2442138I remember making a similar board to this on my first playthrough, good times. It does kick ass.
>>2442136Item-spamming grenadier to contrast with the other anon's. Give her Upgraded Frag Grenades and Upgraded Incendiary Grenades and she absolutely breaks the game.
>>2442136And finally here's a mega-nuke Engineer Kylie
i love you anons, you niggas are too based for this planet
Hacker abuses Multi Processing along with Move Protocol and Confusion Protocol to always be able to use two Protocols per turn. Given all the sets this has her starting out at refunding 38 AT a turn, as well as giving her 114% damage increase and reduction. Administrator Protocol lets her access Reactive Matrix Protocol once she gets her SP, it also temporarily gives access to more Protocols in general making the entire build stronger. It can also fit Breakthrough but she doesn't really need it. She gets stronger from hitting into Block anyway.
>>2442152i've been experimenting with Engineer for a while now and am going to go back just for the 2 protocols, i still can't get used to only having one
>>2442155Yeah, it's night and day for me. Kylie can do so much more with -1 AP Protocols and that's before you even get into optimizing Multi Processing's AT refund, just being able to Support Protocol to act again somebody and blasting something is amazing by itself. I started out with Engineer and liked it because drones are really fun but I also really love Kylie's base kit and that's the main trade-off between Hacker and Engineer.
>>2442152Hacker also goes well with Awaken so you can get all protocols on demand, and use both of her ultimate abilities.Also Pascal's bracelet and Paradigm shift give extra uses to both Awaken and Reboot.It's a really fun build (provided you've beaten DLC2 to get all the masteries and items).
>>2442161Farming Pascal is definitely the most gruesome part.
>>2442161Kylie is probably the best character for spirit sets in the game if only because scholar masteries suck cock. You have so much free room on her board and she doesn't really need anything except more utility.
>>2442165Scholar masteries are really good. Great Scholar, Educational Book and Professional Book all have top-notch effects. Bookworm and Research Paper, mostly composed of these, are great sets as well. Over on Ray's side she has Earnest Researcher which is very strong when you tie her board.
>>2442164It's not too bad if you use the duo joint drills method with HR/HR and lost item collector's bags, just abandon the joint drill before you have to fight the destrons.>>2442165>scholar masteries suck cockYou're just not smart enough to use them :p>You have so much free room on her board and she doesn't really need anything except more utilityLiterally every mastery on that board has its place, at 59/60 TP. It's probably the tightest board I've ever made, just like Kylie's tight ass. Kylie is a very good support character so utility makes sense on her regardless, she absolutely trivializes lots of maps by just spamming holograms, search protocols, and awaken commands. Not everyone on the team needs to be a damage dealer.
>>2442172Yeah, I didn't get into the rest of the Scholar masteries those Kylie boards are using but every one is extremely important and the board would be much worse off for cutting it, they're just more specific to her, which does make sense, those sets are from Pascal after all.
>>2442175>which does make sense, those sets are from Pascal after all
>>2442165Ironically the best thing about Spirit Kylie is that the Scholar masteries exist. You can use Promotion to bump her up to level 61 which always triggers the "higher level or higher HP" condition on a lot of them, while simultaneously benefiting from the low HP part of "lower level or lower HP" of others.
kylie butt
Not the guy requesting build, but Alisa and Kylie trip me up because it feels like you are encouraged to equip every class mastery. But my instincts keep screaming at me that I'm making a mistakee if I do that.
>>2442176She's so fucking cool. I'd like to see the kind of insane weapons she could craft if she wasn't bound by the regulations of the law.
>>2442661>EngineerMain reason to play this class is for Drones, so at a minimum take most of the Drone related masteries and sets. >HackerThe Process sets should be the centerpiece of any build but it can branch out from there. >White KnightYeah, this class has a lot of directions to go. I usually feel like I'm missing out on something important here on any given build, in no small part thanks to also getting access to very potent Swordsman masteries.>BarbarianIt's pretty easy to drop most of the Barbarian and Rage sets and solely use Tenacious Barbarian Warrior for its physical debuff immunity, plus the raw bulk the class gives you with sets like Massive Muscle.
>>2442661White Knight's power scales up based on how confident you are at using Common masteries. A lot of its sets grant effects that you can really do without, and a few extra % from Sword Manual / Knight of Sword isn't worth compromising your build for.>>2442679>Main reason to play this class is for Drones, so at a minimum take most of the Drone related masteries and sets. Engineer also has Consecutive Attack, Giant Battery and other fuck-you-machines sets, so a lot of the time I find myself ditching her drone-related sets entirely. It makes her way more damaging than an equivalent Hacker build. I guess the point this gets across is:>don't stack every class mastery on someone just because they can equip them>consider what you want them to do, and build class masteries that benefit that.
>>2442860I don't really see how you can get more damaging than killing everything to begin with.
>>2442866It's the difference between raping Gold in a single Attack Protocol and tickling him
>>2442860White knight is just straight up worse barb
>>2442878>faster>crittier>Sen no Sen>Neutralize Counters (important for not getting ACK'd by Movement on Silence)>can abuse Bloodbath if you want>tauntmemes if you wantYou fundamentally don't understand the class
>>2442867Personally I don't think killing him in about 30 AT is all that bad, but I guess you can always go faster.
>>2442881In the time it took you to type up that post barb cleared half the map :P
>>2442883In the time it took your Barbarian to get their starting move, everyone else is three turns ahead
>>2442890turn around
>>2442890Starting moves are randomized, though.
>>2442878they play very differentlyif i try to play WK like a BW it is obviously worse in that roleit has a role similar to GS, "fuck up this one strong enemy while surviving small attacks from any mooks in the meantime"where BW feels similar to MS "fuck up this area full of mooks while surviving occasional nukes in the meantime"
>>2442661>>2442679In my opinion warrior masteries suck, they're one of the worst tier 1 class masteries. It's easy to build WK/barb because you just only have to choose the warrior masteries that are necessary for sets and maybe the few that are good on their own.Barbarian literally doesn't work without a couple of common sets, while WK benefits a lot from the sheer amount of health that comes from common sets because Marching Expert gives speed based on max HP.Alisa is probably benefits the least from using lots of class masteries.
>>2442914>Barbarian literally doesn't work without a couple of common sets, while WK benefits a lot from the sheer amount of health that comes from common sets because Marching Expert gives speed based on max HP.Barbarian has more sets granting and giving HP, so it's generally easier for Barb to have a higher HP total. WK struggles to get past 3-4k but Barb can do 5k+ easy. Barb doesn't need to play a low HP build either.
>>2442917I wasn't saying that the common sets that give HP should be used on barbarian, rather, just that barbarian needs sets like Final Resistance and Lunatic Beast otherwise the typical playstyle of the class falls apart, in response to anon saying that Alisa seems like she should equip every class mastery.I just wanted to point out that the HP common sets just work really well on WK because of Marching Master, overlapping masteries between the sets, and the fact that WK really needs the HP.
>>2442914Barb gets to abuse broken class sets and the most broken common sets in the game. WK's class sets are either meh or useless and has to hard crutch on swordsman masteries.I struggle to think of a time when WK is more useful than barb because the game is oriented more towards hordes instead of the elites WK wants to fight.
>>2442914That build can drop Honesty and either stick in a 2-point Support mastery or swap Rational Suspicion for Brazenface
>>2442920WK is really good against the tougher enemies in the game like Destrons and some bosses for sure, but yeah, >95% of the time you're fighting hordes of enemies.
>>2442920WK is meta in joint drills/PvP and is more effective against machine enemies. I mostly just prefer it because barbarian gets boring after while, clearing the entire map on its own without any player input.>>2442921If I drop honesty then I lose the +2 max TP for each category from Seeker of Enlightenment, which would put me over the TP limit in the Defense and Ability categories.
>>2442924>which would put me over the TP limit in the Defense and Ability categoriesNo it doesn't. You'd be 15/15 and 9/9 respectively
>>2442925Removing honesty would be -1, then losing the set bonus would be -2, meaning -3 total.11 - 3 = 8, which is < 917 - 3 = 14, which is < 15
>>2442924>>2442925>>2442927wait no I'm retarded, you're right
>>2442927Honesy isn't a +1 property limit mastery. It's +3 TP. Just remove it and see
>>2442928>>2442929I don't know what to use that free support slot for now, though
I have pages of orange and purple rarity items that I haven't identified because I know I'm too lazy to go through each of them and scrap the ones with bad rolls.They're starting to clog my inventory now, I was close to 900 items but after doing some scrapping and move some others to storage it's back down to 800.What's the best way to deal with this? Should I just scrap every craftable item?
>>2442933Mass ID, then scroll through your inventory, hovering over 4 stars or higher. Lock the ones that look decent so you can appraise them more critically later. Scrap everything else.
>>2442933Just start a new save, problem solved.
>>2442878late to the party, so there's nothing left for me to say that hasn't already been discussed to deathI'll just state yet again for the record that WK is a menace in PVP that shuts down a lot of classes, and taunt is up there with hellgate in terms of how annoying it is to play against, especially considering that she applies it on demand lol. In PVE you can build the class in any way like you would your regular melee frontliner and it'll most likely work. Clearing the game as a solo WK has given me a newfound appreciation for the classBarb is very cookie cutter with how it plays and most builds will feel very similar to one another unless you zero in on certain gimmicks if you want to have more fun. But it IS tailor made for map clearing. If you're struggling on any level, it's a safe bet to just send Alisa in by herself and she'll wipe it clean (if you build her right)quarter of the way there to 100K yaaaay T_T
>>2442982We know a little bit about them from Dandi comments. At this point I think Hannah is ice as well.Yuri can't be Spirit because Elementalist/Mage requires an elemental SP type.
>>2442976attack the EV chargers you coward
>the modding tool doesn't work on linux and crashes on startup
>>2443715Not even with Proton fiddling? It's pretty much the same exe as the game itself, just configured to dev mode.
>>2443543make me
>>2443744File structure seems to be fucking it up so when you point it to the games .exe it can't find it then crashes.
>>2443747Ah yeah, that'd do it. Shame. I'm making the switch to Mint myself in the near future.
>>2443752Do not switch to mint for the love of god it sucks ass for gaming just use Cachy like everyone else.>t. tried mint and it sucked
>>2443996Dem trips
Justice power~!
page 10 bros
>>2444274Took just over a month. A decent pace for this board.
>>2444220that's a lot of justice~!
>>2443715i know that feel anon>TroubleTool is also windows onlyzetsuboushita
>>2444220Fire builds are so much fun. Every time I do a playthrough my Irene always ends up in a Fire build.
>>2444274tired alisa...
>>2444338you want fries with that?
>>2444404Can you just edit the .xml on offline saves to make edits atleast?
New thread: >>2444648
negooris tongue my anus
