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Is the campaign worth playing?
>>2428386Why are you posting pictures taken by phone?
>>2428396Which one?
>>2428396I only ever played the Khmer one and it was pretty fun. I tried Joan of Arc and it was so fucking boring. The game just isn't for me.
>>2428415You tell me. I only care about the economic management side of the game.
When is my irrelevant shithole being added
>>2428410its a picture of a high res CRT running the gamehow im supposed to show it with a screenshoot?
>>2428510no anon you're right, your unique european country with rich history and beautiful architecture and soldiers is a shitholewhat we REALLY need right now is a 10th variation of chink, wetback or african
>>2428557>its a picture of a high res CRTI didn't notice it. Frankly, I wouldn't be able to tell the difference even if you were lying.
>>2428568>beautiful soldiersyeah i fucked up. shit on me, i'll get ya next time
>>2428568literally the whole fanbase of the game complained about 3K because they made 3 entires "new" civs based on kingdoms that barely lasted 30-40 years and were irrelevantguess fucking what? every single european kingdom that doesnt fit that description ALREADY IS IN THE GAMEso seriously, i dont know what the fuck you guys expect more to add from Europe, that isnt "split into these very niche specific shortlived towns" or isnt just the same civilization but from a 400 hundreds years earlier / later
>>2428396Most of them is worth playingBurgundian, Lithuanian and Polish campaigns are all excellent
>>2428396The missions feel pretty hit or miss, id like em more if they had more variety.
>>2428720We shouldn't split, we should re-merge
>>2428396Pretty much every one, except for Tariq, is worth playing (which is a shame because he's a neat guy)
>>2428720Swiss Confederation (Helvetians) have the same relevance as Bohemians Some Slcaveni (Croatians, Serbs, Albanians) umbrella would be neat to spleet up the "Slavs" umbrella and fill the gaps in the west Balkans (unless you consider the Bulgarians as filling their umbrella)On that topic, differentiating between Slavs and Rus would be good, since we've gotten more Slavic politics since The Forgotten. I guess that's why people want Vlachs tooBut that's the most I get get out of europe without being any extraneous bloat. I don't see any value in spleeting the AoK euros, they're pretty good umbrellas (with Goths being any backwards barbarian), and there are plenty of dumb, redudant requests that can't be solved with adding a unique regional/unit variant over a UU and brand new civPersians should get Central Asian architecture and Byzantines, Armenians, Georgians, and Bulgarians a shared set as well
>>2428396I only play single player. I've played the majority of campaignsKotyan Khan, Ivaylo, Grand Dukes, Le Loi, Algirdas and Kestutis, Jadwiga, El Cid, Barbarossa, Francisco de Almeida, Tamerlane, Genghis Khan, Tamar, Thoros II, Rajendra, The Hautevilles are my personal favorites so far. Amazing story, characters, very fun scenarios. Kotyan Khan is THE standard imo of how to do a AoE campaign.Attila the Hun, Vlad Dracula, Pachacuti, Joan of Arc, Saladin, Tariq ibn Ziyad, Prithviraj, Sundjata, Devapala, Pachacuti, Suryavarman I, Yodit, Edward Longshanks, Jan Zizka, Saladin, are enjoyable campaigns, the story might be engaging, but the scenarios aren't very fun, or one or two scenarios are boring to play.Gajah Mada, Bari, Sforza, Alaric were boring to play, only finished because i am a completionist.THe story sucks, the scenarios suck. Sforza stars out ok, then it gets boring fast. Alaric is just a grind all the time, besides the siege of Rome it sucks ass. The rest i haven't played yetI ahve also completed all Historical Battles and Victors & Vanquished scenarios, but i woudl have to do a separate ranking
i do wonder if handcannoneers will ever get (another) buff like they have in the past? maybe someday.
They truly fumbled AoE 4. Why set another game in medieval times?They should've made AoE 4 set in 1800 until the dawn of ww1
>>2429007not only that, but they made it ugly and with heat seeking arrows. Why compete with the GOAT, Business people are retarded, they remake good games and fail because they can't compete with the artistry, but they ignore great concepts that were implemented poorly because they only look at numbers.God I have such utter contempt for the ruling classes incompetence.
>>2428949honestly rather this than the splitfaggotry from here
just beat moderate CPU for the first time
>>2428720>>2429022Hey screw you man, aoe4 as a sequel to aoe2 should and would have worked if they hadn't made the game atrocious to look at. A lot of people want aoe2 without the bloat (in terms of civs and mechanics) and I'm sure no one would mind civs who are actually different. What people didn't want was reskinned aom units and mechanics and matrix aesthetics and retarded looking units, in terms of both design and graphics. Half of the time the units look like plastic. The other half, like plushies
>>2428720Yeah sure, splitting civs suck and irrelevant civs suck, but if that's the case we should be done with adding civs altogether. You can't seriously say that the game needed 10 different American civs. Can't say that it's fine to have 5 Indians all riding a different type of camel, but also that it's not a problem for an entire slab of continent across 1000 years to just be "Slavs". That HRE should only have 1 civ which barely represents them properly. All the different houses of knightly Franks fighting each other, and there's only one civ to represent them with a fucking viking axeman as their unique unit. Same for the Brits.
So...nobody will challenge Hera?Fucking hell, back when Viper was winning anything, Hera rising up was awesome, but enough is enough. Are we goign to have to wait for Hera to reach his 30's and lsoe his agility with the keybaord and mouse for others to start winning the big tournaments as well?
>>2429122Congrats on completing the tutorial
>>2429181he got challenged in the last 2 tournaments
https://poal.me/3supoFinal /aoeg/ spleet poll. After this, we can no longer discuss new civs
>>2429232Enough with the new civs, and the 3 kingdoms should be single player only. They seem extremely overpowered too, i saw Hera destroying 7 noobs with Wei Make more campaigns, every civ deserves a campaign.
ARE AOE 1 3 OR 4 PLAYABLE TODYA!? WORTH PLAY TIME SPENT?
>>2429274>1 Only if Vietnamese>3No>4 Yeah
>>2429313>3>NoEarly modern warfarebros...
>>2429274Yes, AoE 3 DE looks amazing. And thr campaign is awesome.I don't knwo if the latest dlc's are any good, because i never bought it.
>>2429505saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar
>>2429270>Make more campaigns, every civ deserves a campaign.Agreed. I still can't believe there's no Japanese campaign.
>>2428720>every single european kingdom that doesnt fit that description ALREADY IS IN THE GAMEno?
>>2429270>They seem extremely overpowered tooNah, a catapult galley (but china) being stronger than a galleon armed with cannons is perfectly normal.
Spiffinghaters??? Our response???
>>2429566This was the expected result, red phosphoru cheese is +500 elo, the other teams should have told their low elo legends to just cheese for some points
>>2429566If Hera decides to host another tournament then people are just going to double down on phosphoru strat. This reminds me how I was briefly arguing with some retard 2 weeks ago about it and he said he doesn't believe in the concept of elo inflation.
>>2429274aoe3 is playable and worth it
>>2429270>every civ deserves a campaign.Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Turks, Vikings, and debatably Celts, Magyars, and Slavs that don't have a campaign.
All version of aoe2 are clearly the superior entries of the franchise
>>2429645Correct, as well as the Jurchens and Khitans. OG theories were that 3 Kingdoms was going to be an East Asia megapack to involve their stories but it all went to Rot3KThe Puru and Thracians as well, if you count Chronicles, but Alexander had only room for one mission each
If we are lucky microsoft is cancelling the next aoe2 dlc
>having alot of fun with aoe4, finally found a game i can keep playing instead of hoping from singleplayer to singleplayer.>4k hours, steadily getting better at the game>suddenly after a patch, i start getting this weird error that half of my matches, randomly it wont let me move at all or make units, i can only use the chat and ping until the game "kicks me out">sent a ticket for the problem, and reported the problem on the official discord in hope for a fix.>got the automated mail equivalent of "did you try disconnecting and reconnecting your modem?>hoping for a patch to fix it, and asked my isp to check the connection>ISP fixed an issue, and patch fixed another issue, next match went well.>rest a bit, then i start another game>same problem as before, despite the fixes.Guess all good things come to an end, thanks devs for that nice patch. Guess ill have to play Company of Heroes now
>>2429673>Jurchens and KhitansAll the Three Kingdoms civs don't get a campaign? Well that's fucking lame.>>2429645I guess it's worth mentioning that Vikings get a whopping six scenarios between V&V and BotC. A lot of them are really gimmicky and/or have scenario-specific mechanics, and they're pretty samey, but it's something.
>>2428867I can agree with Helvetians, Sclaveni, and Vlachs and renaming Slavs to Rus/Ruthenians. I guess I'd only add renaming Italians to Lombards. But anything more than that is really unnecessary like a Celt/Italian split or adding Basque or Finns or something. That said devs are lazy fucks and making new civs or civ updates shouldn't take this long.>>2428568You give racism a bad name by being so retarded
Order of the Dragon
>>2429904>You give racism a bad name by being so retardedOh yeah? Why?
>is there any game where you don't want to build 2 houses and go to sheep. is there any other potential opening strategy, does it reward any type of skill, mechanical or knowledge based?no, it's just a standard opener which does nothing other than delaying the fun aspect of the game- except for gimmick civs >is there any game where you don't lure boars? is there any alternative way to gather food at that time, is there a cost of opportunity associated with it, does it reward any type of skill?not really, unless you consider garrisoning a skill- notwithstanding having your boar cheesed by the opponent. >is there any game where you don't look for your other sheep? is there something better your scout could be doing, is there a cost of opportunity, does it reward any type of skill?yes, you could send your scout to the enemy instead to prepare an attack, risking not only losing your sheep but the entire game by deciding to more or less all-in. cheese strat>is there any game where you don't chase after deer to send them to your base? is there something better your scout could be doing, is there a cost of opportunity, does it reward any type of skill?yes, you sacrifice knowledge of the map to gain more easy food.>should any of these be kept in the game?1. no, and the arbitrary order in which sheep are butchered is an antiquated and annoying mechanic 2. no. too much luck involved and simply put a time waster. only there's not much else you could be doing while waiting for vils to come out so it's just an artificial way to keep the player busy while progressing through dark age3. probably not. again, luck is too big a factor, even pros miss sheep sometimes4. maybe, it's a decision you have to make at least, even though, again, too much luck is involved and the mechanic rarely works intuitivelyI guess what I'm saying is that I wish aoe4 weren't shit so I could be playing that instead
>>2429940aoe4 was made for people like you, go play that
>>2429941like i said i would, but it's shit
>Just realized that we did get a game that revisited the ancient history period>It was Age of Empires OnlineHa-ha... damnit.
Yea. I saw the promotional picture on the left and thought that it's the greatest piece of art I've seen in vidya since forever. Great colors and theme.So I download the game to see if I'd like it and this is what I'm greeted with. Your wonder is a goofy ass warcraft 3 farm on a play-dough podium. And those landsknecht, you fucking KNOW they finger each other. What an ugly game. I haven't built a wonder since I was a kid, a thought arose in my head when I finished it of the Romans' hundred day celebration after Trajan's conquest of Dacia. When my villagers went to literal sleep in celebration after having built a three bedroom apartment I felt their reaction was appropriate.Civs for this feel?
>>2430506Isnt AoE3 the only one with good building proportions and size compared to units?My main problem with that wonder is that it is a star fortress, yet used as a wonder instead of a keep.
>>2430527Proportions are the least of my worries. The big issues for me are the textures, the colors and the UI. This game is made for the cognitively disabled and I'm not trying to be funny, before the game even starts it brings up a handicap menu with text to speech, narration, colorblind mode etc, so I can understand pure yellow being 90% of a unit's model in case a blind man wants to tell apart his knights from the opponent's. Even the UI makes sense if maybe a bit challenging to follow for the epileptic audience, but what possessed them to make every surface in the game look like plastic?AoE3 is a beautiful game, yeah, shame about the game
>>2430506>Mongols' wonder in IV is a statue made in 2008This is what I get for mocking the giant tent
>>2429594I don't understand why everyone is using magyars. hera said it's because cavalry uus are easier to use, but wouldn't spanish be better?
>>2431211Magyar uu is so strong because it's like a knight that is half price, it's more about the cost and stats of the unit. Also conqs are trickier because they are weaker against ranged units and require more micro to get value out of
>>2430550next time be a good boy and swallow your hut-on-a-hill without fussing
he really played everyone for fools...
Lads. Is iyouxin cooked? Tell me it ain't so. 1 hour left
>watching livestream>celts break in>internet instantly diesI HATE AUSTRALIAN INTERNET I HATE AUSTRALIAN INTERNET I HATE AUSTRALIAN INTERNET
A fucking ramburger
3 down, 1 to goDay9 seems to be the fav for the next match but I'm rooting for my boi yamatocannon, he won me over during that Teutonic healing fortress match
life is suffering for yamatobros first he got robbed now just plain fucked
looks like a trend is emerging where the meta focused rts pros smash their phosphoru rushing counterpartsI'm taking this as a good sign for my boy uThermal, he's a regular play kinda guy
>>2431673I mean they are rts pros, constant vil production alone will yield a huge advantage vs cheese, never mind other fundamentals. Add to that that coaches will specifically train people against those strats and that the cheesers will never know how to adapt and it's gg from the get-go.Which is unfortunate. Yamato was robbed by undead in w3 and was too busy now to practice properly, my nigga deserved more. At least he'll be back on commentary.
>>2430527Yeah and it's a great example why going for correct proportions is fucking retarded. It looks awful in the game and isn't practical.Games should be approximations of reality tailored to coolness and gameplay, not theoretical replicas.
>>2431623>>2431680I think day9 is a wildcard in this tournament. he has good mechanics but barely any game knowledge.
>>2431698it's unfortunately definitely grubby who's gonna win. I say unfortunately because not only is it boring to have yet another RTS veteran/ multi-time champion win, but the "bromance" between hera and him is just tiring at this pointI'm excited to see how deathnote's gonna perform. I haven't been following his progress but I enjoyed watching his coaching for the warcraft tournament
holy shit this king game
Are streamers even people?
some absolute LELkino in this eceleb invitational
>>2431729First Deathnote game was pure historic kino
>>2431211The price was changed to 35 food 45 gold, it has 80 HP, 10 attack and 2 pierce armor. Food is expensive to buy and takes a while to set up, magyar huszar is easier to spam than knights and conquistadors
how the fuck did spiffing brit win so much on the ranked ladder lmao
>>2431877Could've had someone play for him, I don't think he played that much.He's been a poser and a scumbag for a long time and glad to see more people recognize that.
>>2431877Maybe he practiced a lot offline or something?
>>24318771100s are shit and red phosphoru strats aren't as common at low elo.>>2431880All you do is drop a castle make magyar huszar, any inbred retard can do that
Fuck, day9 vs grubby is so much fun
W3 is a lot more fun to watch than this
Can't wait for this tournament to get phospheru strats nerfed again so we can go back to an even more stale arabia meta of wall and skirm mirror matches.
>>2431877I watched the Hera vid and he(brit) said that around 900-1100 you can just walk up and drop a castle on your opponent and they quit if you play during the right time of day.
>>2432009How the fuck would you even nerf phos strat at this point? increase food to go up cost? Increase castle cost/build time? I'm down for nerfing house HP.