>>2440001
Why did her reforms cost so much money? Was Ciara stuffing some away or did Gus and Rusty have some kind of a ponzi scheme going on? We're in the middle of a goddamn recession!

>>2440001
In my first playthrough of Rizia i created a Theocracy with myself as Holyking/Pope and failed an invasion. Though Rizia is probably alot more complicated then Sordland its also more fun

Originally you were supposed to be able to cheat on her with the Central Bank chairwoman. And the Rumburg war wasn't supposed to be this half assed either. The game is full of unfinished and cut content because lasy ass devs who take multi year siestas.

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>>2440001
Yes, you can go absolutist as Rizia. And you get a non-gimped chudwife option. As for Monica, I divorce that wretched whore in every run. Sorry bitch, too busy oppressing Bluds. DECLINED. A MORGNA WES CORE!

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I fucked it up big time and an hero'd :(

Rizzia next I guess

>>2440237
How did you find any of this out?

>>2440001
It really does make zero sense that you can be an open member of a fascist organization like the Young Sords and then your libtard wife acts surprised that you act like a chud for some reason lol.

>>2440291
It's a unity game, not hard to datamine.

>>2440237
>Originally you were supposed to be able to cheat on her with the Central Bank chairwoman
that bitch has like one scene right? definitely reeks of cut content
>>2440274
>I divorce that wretched whore in every run
skill issue. just tell her you're going to do her retarded shit in private and then actually do none of it. then when she asks for an explanation for why you didn't do it tell her the time just wasn't right. she totally buys it like the idiot she is, it's kino honestly.
>>2440288
wait how do you get this ending, I didn't know you could an hero

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>>2441050
you have to lose the war, you get the führerbunker ending
iirc you can either give Monica and Deana cyanide pills and die with them in bunker or lock them inside and go back to the presidential palace with Iosef, he gives you his service pistol and goes out like a hero gunning down a whole squad of rummies and suicide bombing into another, you can do the same and go out shooting, calmly sit in the presidential office adjust your tie and blow your brains out or you surrender like a bitch and get tortured and killed by Queen Beatrice
also if you funded the Young Sords you can call Valken and he'll pull a Steiner(they all get massacred)

honestly it's way more depressing than the nuclear war ending

>>2440001
This is why the dlc is far superior to the base game. Much better choices

>>2440234
is theocracy cool or ultra larpy? rizia's religion is pretty libtard so it seemed silly to me to try to become the theocrat of episcopalianism basically

>>2441050
>definitely reeks of cut content
the biggest dead giveaway is that she's hot though that would mean there was cut content for "i can fix her"-core cheating with ciara too

>>2441070
There should be a schzio ending where you can choose to rape Beatrice in the surrender wagon after reminding her who her suzerain is.

>>2441356
it can be fairly fun, even though you can be very reformist with it you can essentially ban/oppress most other religions if you go full in with wruhecism, plus if you go all the way with Sal i think he will claim you are part of some divine plan.

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One of the issues with Sordland, and the wider Suzerain lore, is that you are playing as Turkey but a utterly butchered version of it with other nation's cultures and histories mushed in. You cannot larp as House of Cards because you live in a banana republic and you cannot larp as literally Hitler without it feeling weird and disjointed in parts. No matter what rp you run with, it always comes back to Turkey. I also want an option to execute Soll in the name of Luderin, monarchy larping would also be cool even if you are a Lord Protector with some retarded kid as a figure head.
>>2440001
Monica is genuinely, unironically, a awful wife and really shitty feminist. She doesn't care about Bl*d women getting slapped and she seems to really just want the movement to be about her instead of the actual strong women like Not!Thatcher in the USP. That whole plot is shitty to be honest as about half the most powerful characters in game are women and the best one is a genocidal girlboss who's nukemaxxing. Also it is kind of fucked how you can only get custody of Deana in the emergency run with Hawker still alive, seems like you should be able to force that issue in Dictator or even in Emergency with Hawker LongKnived.
>>2440237
>>2441360
It would have been great to be a Berlusconi Rayne, I choose Ciara because I can fix her lesbianism with law degree penis.

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>>2441822
>can kill Peter but not Monica
But not being able to get custody over your daughter is the most bullshit thing in this entire game. Given all of the things he can and is willing to do I should be able to send my nigga Karl to get her back by any means necessary.

>>2441837
Not just kill but submerge into a vat of acid along with his girlfriend really arresting Monica and pretending she had a mental breakdown whilst committing her to a private asylum is merciful in comparison.

>>2441070
>honestly it's way more depressing than the nuclear war ending
The first time I played and I lost the war I was legit depressed because of how fucking evil Rumburg is.
>uses chemical weapons on your civilians
>heh,, nothin personnel kid

>>2442190
>uses chemical weapons on your civilians
Based on Rumburg, Whelen and Rizia, if you are not doing this then you are simply behind the times.

Sordland should have really got that war game that Rizia got. Also are they developing a DLC or what?

>>2442384
The running rumour is that they are making a commie dlc for Galmland. It could be good but I'm guessing the devs will either fellate the ideology as they sort of do to Cortana and Valgsland or act as though social democracy is the only way forward and that Stalin's success was a fluke. Allegedly we might also be playing a woman. Personally I hope with the dlc they set up a quicker system of setting past choices because I don't like playing Rizia without my own set Sordland history but between updates and the time needed its burdensome. Something like setting Sordland to go broke and get invaded versus having them be rich and neutral or what alliance they join. Like the hoi4 country path gamerule.

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who has the more annoying and retarded family: Romus or Anton?

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>>2442494
>Anton
Awful wife, moronic son, good daughter
>Romus
Dead wife, based mom, libtard daughter
I think Anton takes this one, though Romus did fuck up by not breeding Beatrice's sister more.

Did they ever add to an absolutist Rizian playthrough regarding the military? I know religion is important but I don't remember the Azaros(?) going anywhere other then the marriage. It would be cool to form a Clerical Fascist state in Rizia, rather then just "King do what King do". Perhaps show the difference between the old conservatives and the new Rizian young men like Rico and his org.

>>2442552
There should have been a path where you democratize only for the fascists to win the elections

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>>2442563
I still have not done a reformer run. That is so silly when I can sign whatever law I want. Pollution? Ended. Foreigners? Out. RIZIAN workers? Protected. The faith? Enshrined. I'm usually not even tyrannical when it comes to Manus and the liberals. Pales does usually get glassed though.

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>mmphhhmmrmmphm
Your response?

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>>2444313
uhm.. you're going to share that, RIGHT?

>>2444313
most kino moment by far
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZDT1vaCUqE

>>2440001
Yeah she needs to be beaten with a cane.

I quite enjoyed the ground warfare aspect of Rizia.

>>2440234
>failed an invasion
Make sure to use your marines and support land with your ships.

I think Rizia should be richer then it feels, I know that might make choices too easy but the whole point of the Kingdom is that money is the one thing they have no problem with.
>>2444745
I liked how you can use different strategies and your investment into the different sides of your militaries matters. I remember focusing navy and it was fun to blockade them.

What is best for a Mussolini Rayne? Dictator or Emergency where you never end it and you kill the Old Guard judge?

>>2445146
Dictator where you get impeached and join NFP

>>2445149
How does that work? Do you lose power or are you simply kicked out of the party as President? Also would Kibenar really just accept being second fiddle? He is too much of a fox for that.

>>2445150
Kibener becomes the president and you become his VP. It's the most based option since he institutes racial laws and you get rid of sollists once and for all.
>BUT I DONT WANT TO LOSE POWER REEEEE
Any true leader must prioritise country's wellbeing over petty ambitions.

>>2445156
That is fair and honestly I think Kibenar would be a very good leader. I'm not sure the family situation of Rayne though in this supposed NFP run, especially since Deana's custody is locked behind leaving Hawker alive for some reason. Do you have to avoid the war to get this ending because I just don't see the USP impeaching you if you won it.

>>2445164
>I'm not sure the family situation of Rayne though in this supposed NFP run
I never got divorce no matter what I did on any of my runs because I picked the correct dialogue options so I'm not familiar with this storyline.
>Do you have to avoid the war to get this ending because I just don't see the USP impeaching you if you won it.
Obviously. You also need to not form SSP since it also locks you out of impeachment

>>2446032
I'm not sure about that then, it seems like the better larp is emergency, ban the reds, make the deal with the Young Sords to kill the Old Guard, legalize guns for the death squads and send the military to crush the bluds with a successful solo Rumburg war to top it off. This and the dictator capitalist ATO Rayne rank top for me.

>>2446032
>I never got divorce no matter what I did on any of my runs
Funny, I got the divorce every single time despite my best efforts. I never figured out how to trigger the lesser bill.

>>2446506
Rumburg is based and allying with them is the best option and USP is gay and I hate everyone there. No matter what you do on emergency you could never top the NFP presidency which will always be the most positive option since you aren't stuck with the baggage of leading a republican third world socialist party filled with feminists and can rehabilitate the legacy of Luderin and maybe restore the monarchy in the future.
>>2447443
Just don't let her speak and say that your hands were tied and promise to work with her and then reject her bill and when she's mad at you say that it wasn't good enough and then reject the second bill and she will never bring it up again.

>>2447447
ah. so my mistake was trying to talk to her and reason with her like a human being. figures.

>>2447447
>Rumburg is based and allying with them is the best option and USP is gay
Just roll over backwards hand the hostile expansive neighbouring power everything they want so much their bitch queen can't believe how gullible you are in exchange for vague promises she'll leave you alone, and also becoming unelectable is the dumbest strategy I've ever heard. You're willingly becoming Czechoslovakia post Munich only you have options both diplomatic and military to come out swinging to win quite easily before you get into the situation.

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>>2440001
I really dont understand how the economy works in the base game

>>2447669
it changes with every update too. last I played two years ago the devs had hyperfixated on synergy bonuses, so you basically just need to maxx development in one or two regions and one or two industries. don't try to spread out development evenly. and generally build the high speed rail, it mogs the road except in certain edge cases. and don't be a retard and go into massive debt or run massive unspent surpluses for no reason (no clue why some people do this but you will be punished)

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I think at this point economy in base is more just pick an ideology and economy model and stick to it to the bitter end based than anything actually economic based.

My last playthrough I followed a guide that nationalised Sordlands 2 biggest companies, arrested the Oligarchs, flirted with UNC, raised taxes, Gus quit in disgust while people called me a Malyvenist at the end and got the most ridiculous economy I've ever seen

>>2447629
>Just roll over backwards hand the hostile expansive neighbouring power everything they want
All they ask for is -2 budget and a trade deal which is much cheaper than funding the military.
>exchange for vague promises she'll leave you alone
You become their top supplier of energy so they couldn't go to war with you even if they wanted to since it would devastate them economically and they already achieved all their geopolitical aims.
>You're willingly becoming Czechoslovakia post Munich
No you don't retard.
>only you have options both diplomatic and military to come out swinging to win quite easily before you get into the situation
You win diplomatically by reconciling with Rumburg

>>2447712
I also like inviting the local niggers into my house to fuck my girlfriend on the vague promise they might not rob us later btw

>>2447689
Well thats expected if that economy came at the cost of sacrifising healthcare and social services

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Something kind of similar releases in about two weeks. But by the looks of it you are trying to prevent the world hegemon from collapsing amid early industrial revolution, French revolution and it's own Protestant reformation

>>2447787
Oh neat, I mostly enjoyed Sir Brante, I'll check it out

>>2447775
>If I say the n-word those chuds will surely support my wholesome socialist utopia against those evil monarchists

>>2447712
fucking cuck mentality. i'd rather shoot myself.

>>2447712
Yeah this. Allying them is the good ending, but it requires some understanding of geopolitics. Most players just become useful idiots for globohomo instead.

>>2447787
>>2447791
the initial playtest was pure kino. surprised it's coming out this early though, hope it's not too rushed. they also did a last minute stopgap kickstarter campaign so they're probably still really hurting for funds

>>2447776
>https://www.reddit.com/r/suzerain/comments/1oztkhk/suzerain_31_153_democratic_socialist_guide_the/
It didn't all ministries got an increased budget except military which was maintained and workers got just about every rights act they wanted. Granted don't know if it still works I last played before latest update

>>2447775
you forgot that you also have to literally pay them muh reparations

>>2447712
>You become their top supplier of energy so they couldn't go to war with you even if they wanted to since it would devastate them economically and they already achieved all their geopolitical aims.
This completely ignores the fact that as Rizia you can be their biggest supplier and get dropped in 30 seconds just for being diplomatic to the guy holding 1/3 your kingdom hostage even though its no harm to Rumburg

>>2447922
You have to completely braindead to sour your relationship with rumburg as rizia. Let me guess, you're the guy who's also mad that you get kicked out of grace after forming third world alliance with wehlen?

>>2447944
sorry, not going to be a rumburg goy like you and stay on that sinking ship

>>2447944
>You have to completely braindead to sour your relationship with rumburg as rizia
You don't though you get a bigger economy boost from Intermer- however the fuck you spell it than you do sticking to an increasingly fractured widespread BRICs like alliance block as a vassal of your menopausal sister in law where you can be kicked out for drinking tea wrong

>>2447956
Seriously become a regional hegemon and energy superpower binding the economies of 4 nations to Port Drazon or mired in civil wars being constantly asked to send a tank brigade to every grand duke whose having peasant issues and taking darling Bea's strapon.

There is literally no outcome where Sordland survives the next decade unless it reconciles with Rumburg. Since the setting had no prior world war, there isn't that much stopping the superpowers from attacking each other, so a nuclear world war is almost inevitable. So Sordland is nuked if it joins either of them. Otherwise, if Sordland stays neutral but beats Rumburg in a war or gets it sanctioned by the AN, it will still get nuked by Rumburg the moment they get their shit together and come for revenge or when the AN inevitably stops giving a shit about this issue.

>>2447964
Thats why you build a moon colony after the war. Rumburg cant reach you and you can threaten to start dropping space rocks on their heads if they misbehave

>>2447964
Both alliance blocks seem pretty set on GRACE not getting nukes which is presumably why everyone and their mother immediately voted for sanctions so ruinous the economy almost collapses can't see them mellowing on that going forward

>>2447964
Nah in my Rizian playthrough a God-Emperor ascends who's also an economic genius and Napoleon reborn.
Rumberg has much more to worry about.

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So I just got the Rizia DLC. I hit chapter 2 and realized that not only can I not peacefully annex Pales because I was rude to their president fifteen years ago, but that in order to get half the oilfield in arbitration, I need to splurge on bribing governments around the world. I haven't built a single military building yet. I'd have married my daughter off to the guy like a broodmare if I had a choice. Do I have to read a guide to navigate this circus? I love the idea of these games very much, but it seems like one of those games that really wants you to play it one highly certain way. Not going to be entertaining building a prosperous nation with a not-monoculture government type when I'm learning to hit a combination of conversation choices that look like a Mortal Kombat 1 finishing move.

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>>2447964
>implying R*mburg would survive the next decade
I could easily see a Sordish victory leading to the fall of Queen Beatrice and a power struggle that sucks up all of Rumburg's energy. Especially if all of its neighbours have a vested interest in seeing Rumburg caught up in internal issues forever.
Maybe even becoming a failed state or suffering a civil war if it gets too bad.

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Neither the crazy old man or ice queen bitch of Morelia are anywhere near as bad as Lespia or ATO. For fuck's sake they should have made them at least a bit likable. Lespians will fuck you over at every opportunity in both campaigns and joining ATO literally makes you a cuck.
Meanwhile old man gives you ships, ports, trade, freshly mined Lespian salt and military support all in exchange for punishing the Agnolian retard trying to strongarm his much stronger and only ally, or for fucking over Lespia.
I mean fucking hele, Homo-Taliban are better and more useful allies.

>>2448031
There should be more room for error in Rizia, particularly economy-wise (most annoying part of Sordland imo), compared to base game.
>realized that not only can I not peacefully annex Pales because I was rude to their president fifteen years ago
I doubt it's locking you out entirely due to that, though you really shouldn't have been mean to Chadxel if you wanted to play nice with Pales.
>I'd have married my daughter off to the guy like a broodmare if I had a choice
It's imminently doable, I managed it on my first try. Felt good keeping the family together and gaslighting my libtard beat-looking ass daughter, way easier than Monica was that's for sure.

Fresh to the game. Did I fuck up investing into Berger territory?

>>2447964
>a nuclear world war is almost inevitable.
Uh, no?
>if Sordland stays neutral but beats Rumburg in a war or gets it sanctioned by the AN, it will still get nuked by Rumburg the moment they get their shit together and come for revenge
So what you're telling me is that we need a genocide.

>>2448175
see >>2441489

>>2441822
I like how everyone who plays this will see Sordland as turkey
I bet it's the mustache

>>2447964
I wouldn't go that far but Rumburg is the only country who has a chance of standing against globohomo and by removing them you leave the world to be divided by "I can't believe it's not NATO" and "I can't believe it's not USSR" which is a terrible world to live in.

Sub 100 IQ retards see that you can form your faction or defeat rumburg in a war and assume that's the best option because it makes them feel good, completely ignorant to the fact that you just created a much weaker and shittier Rumburg 2.0 where instead of politically aligned monarchies you have third world dictators who hate eachothers guts.The best option for Sordland is to become a senior partner to Rumburg like Lespia is to nato or valgsland is to ussr and split the world together but that would require actual thinking and coming to terms with geopolitical realities instead and there's no feelsgood larp involved

>>2448256
You can have a conversation with Alphonso about this, although he says Rumburg is a bit too close to Arcasia to act as a stabilising third power globally. But I agree being the Lespia of Grace is the best outcome you can achieve economically. Anything else you do, you become either the third guy in some other alliance or you ally only with poverty nations. With the Rums, you have a huge market that is mostly unavailable to both Lespia and Valgsland. In the Rizia campaign, at one point Alvarez begs you to speak up to Rumburg so they can get into an arrangement like Sordland can, so it's definitely a desirable deal.

>>2448148
going agriculturemaxx and Bergiamaxx is a strong synergy, just keep a lid on the bl*ds in one way or another

>>2448212
It’s everything. Even the religious divide is more like Islam than Christianity.

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>>2448409
I triggered debt crisis for staying in the negative for too long and about to take even more debt by Total Femoid Rights. Can I still recover or is it gg? Bludroaches just took the dam

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>Sordland and Rumburg
Honestly I am a massive fan of GRACE as a concept due to the sheer kino of a personal nato/warsaw pact between monarchs against liberals and commies but I don't really see a good reason for Sordland to be part of it. From a Rizian perspective I am a Beatrice cunt kisser till I die but Rumburg and Sordland are just incompatible imo. They hated each other even when they were both monarchies and they are really each other's natural enemies based on geography and history. Maybe if you had an option to fully chud out as a Young Sord Rayne and privately tell her you are working on restoring the monarchy then the pieces would fall into place for a harmonious relationship against shared ideological enemies and membership into GRACE but that would require an additional path/content made for a dictator Rayne that I doubt the devs (lame) will ever do. There is definite possibility for a very cool story there but until that happens then Sordland is better off either forming an alliance with their local retards to deter Rumburg or joining one of the superpower blocs. An actual war is bad just from the amount of instability that will add into Sordland's already instable mix. Imagine the Rummish equivalent of the BFF. I do like Rumburg personally though, even if I do think the devs have done the British-Russian mix poorly.

>>2440288
>Failing the war
Retard.
>>2441050
You have to lose the war like a retard aka listening to a single word of Vulken.

>>2447787
Sir Brante broke me in a lot of its parts. Like that where your mother nearly has a breakdown unless you unite the family and embrace your sister, your younger brother and yourself become something like Jesus in the religious playthrough, that aristocrat lady turning into an ayyy lmao if you don't slap some sense into her, and other stuff which really depressed me, especially with the great music in the background.
I hope this one doesn't ruin me.

>>2448957
>not solo winning the war and taking agnolia and whelen's war spoils for yourself
Vulken is based, just don't mess up the economy and you are golden.

>>2448960
>not having a single ally
Retard.

>>2448961
Cry about it liberal, my map of Sordland is bigger then yours. Dome is mine and agfag martin can seethe.

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>buddy up with Agnolia and the based Total Blud Death funny guy
>increase funding to military & keep conscription for reserve
>modernize army
>integrate the bludistan without kicking off a revolt
>economy mixed but stable and growing
>UN puts gorillion sanctions on Rumburg
>pick strategy 1, 2, 3 or 4
>click Continue
>"lol u lose"
thats it? this is the game? no wartime stuff? you click a button and game ends with "you win" or "you lose"?

>>2449188
It's gay and retarded, especially since you did a lot of other stuff right, but if you are going to keep conscription then you should also expand the military rather then modernize it. If I recall correctly you can win with a mixed military system but you need a very strong economy. Rizia has an actual war system which is much better in my view.

>>2449194
I am genuinely feeling deeply disappointed, like the entire course of game decisions are hyped up as important with long-lasting consequences reminded at every moment but none of it is actually delivered. Game just ends.

>>2448031
This is a guide game. there's no strategy or logic to anything. You just read what the guide tells you to do.

>>2449194
The gayest outcome I had was experimenting with expanded military with full modernization, but I gave Gendarmerie to the interior since I heard that giving gun rights would have militias fulfill the same niche. This was totally wrong and I lost. I then confirmed it was the Gendarmerie through save editing so the game thought I had it and magically all the battles went my way.

I also find it unfortunate that the game punishes good planning by only allowing one ultra synergy. If you qualify for multiple it goes down a priority list.

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>>2449188
It's actually a hoi4 visual novel mod in disguise including their defining feature of arbitrary fail states. It doesn't matter what the numbers for the economy say, if you go the dictator path you HAVE to join vagsland marxist OR go full solist with no in between or you just hit a lose screen. if you don't do either of those in dictator mode you caqn also appease Rumberg at every opportunity and then surrender the backwaters in the west but I suspect Lucian and not Tulsi Gabbard coup you if you do that, though I haven't tried it out yet.

The Rizia DLC has great combat but even if you roll palehhhs over and kill 5+ tanks with just infantry per turn the entire international community sanctions you which gives you -20 income by the end and kills your nation no matter what. I'm not sure what the point of that is but I'm sure if you mathed it out you could possibly win it with Rumbergs' helpies.

None of the routes are documented so figuring what redditors missed IS the fun game.

>>2449188
This is what I'm going through, very arbitrary lose cases. I'm playing Rizia, I kissed that Turkish carpet salesman's ass all game and I have to make a trade deal with him, and no matter what I do he just walks out. I love the idea of this game, but it assumes I have an absolutely staggering amount of free time. My weekends are short and I know I wasted this playthrough. Does anybody know what redditor tier hand wringing horseshit I have to do to make this happen?

>>2449292
That's why I
>RiziaDLC.Army_Unit
>RiziaDLC.Resources
>RiziaDLC.Resources_Military

>>2449292
That's a lot of text but I use cheat engine for all my games.

>>2448461
you're almost certainly fucked yeah, just a question of which flavor of fucked. the bad endings are some of the most kino though so you should play all the way through.
>Total Femoid Rights
the fact that it costs budget at a critical juncture economy-wise is the funniest shit, had to be added in by some crypto chud dev

>>2449292
>you caqn also appease Rumberg at every opportunity and then surrender the backwaters in the west but I suspect Lucian and not Tulsi Gabbard coup you if you do that, though I haven't tried it out yet.
If you get an ultimatum then you haven't appeased them.

>>2449298
>https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3434031783
I'd presume you can just do ctrl+f do the Wehlen stuff and ignore the rest but this game links the weirdest variables that can fuck up if you do something slighly different so not fully sure. The general theory is kiss his ass and have a strong enough military to force his hand, there's probably a way to be a total dick and have overwhelming force as well.

>>2449714
You can't appease them as a dictator doe

>>2449732
Yes you can. Your political system doesn't matter, only how you act towards them and your choice of allies (making allies with wehlen or agnolia blocks reconcilliation for obvious reasons). I even joined NATO and still got reconcilliation, I think joining USSR also works but I haven't checked.

>>2449737
>(making allies with wehlen or agnolia blocks reconcilliation for obvious reasons)
Why the fuck doesn't david whatshisface tell us this.
What a useless fuckass traitor of an advisor. I was in a call with my buddy talking about your post and he was like "oh yeah dude of course he would tell you to fuck your relations up with rumberg and wouldn't even tell you it's an option, he's an anti monarchist."

>>2449738
David and his father are retarded idealist Republicans, his father died in prison because he was too trusting to build a country but was political enough to tear one down. Genuinely annoyed that you have to be polite to him even if you are a Young Sord. Though it is unfair, an argument can be made that his father caused the civil war in Sordland by destroying the monarchy rather then reforming it to be constitutional. No King equals no system equals Commie and Fascist generals ready to build their own. If the Democrats can get rid of the Monarchy then the military can get rid of the Democracy.

pretty much all the sordland advisors are trash except for symon and karl

>>2449718
So I fucked with this for hours and I think I've found some kind of base logic behind it. The Wehlen trade deal has 1) the trade deal scale between positives and negatives, 2) the behind the scenes variable for how much their president likes you, AND 3) a separate leverage variable that influences but is not the same as the scale tipping in #1. I fired off pharmaceutical industry before the meeting, then asked why I would want his opioids, and my scale was more favorable, but what was extremely interesting was that I moved the scale lower than I had it at before and he went from marching out to asking for Rico. Fuckin' wonky programming.

>>2449860
Which is why you need to switch to NFP. Imagine what their ministers would be like

>>2449860
Paskal is pretty good at his job he's even open to privatisation long run his reforms probably have the biggest positive effect, and Gus isn't terrible his Gruni investment is pretty good for synergy bonus (also he's great at investment tips), I'll even say Nia is pretty good at running the justice department unless you're trying to subvert democracy.

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Really disappointed that the game is only 11 turns long. It felt like I just finished the prologue when suddenly, the rug is pulled from under my feet with how the game ends.

Would refund if I could

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>>2447669
>economy
>works
lmao, it was k*ynesian last time i checked but they might have updated it

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>>2448995
>Take over Agnolia and Whelen claims
>Now has two new enemies added to Ramburg
>This is a apparently win
Classic. Very fitting that a guy crying about "muh libruls" knows jackshit about geopolitics.

>>2449188
>increase funding to military & keep conscription for reserve
There. That's your problems, you fucking retard.
God, can't stand retarded faggots like you going like a spaz moron all over the place then bitching why "X didn't work" like bitches in heat.
If you're going to modernize the fucking military, then modernize the air force and abolish conscription, retard.
Agnolia as ally is enough and trust them that they will take Dome by themselves, especially if you have the H1 highway, then do the pincer attack of your bald minister.
It's easy as hell and you still fucked it up.

>>2449966
Calm down rajeesh and take a sip of your cow piss.
Unlike in whatever shithole conflicts your third world country is known for where bunch of shitskin retards shoot at one another for couple of days, in the civilized world (white countries, not your shithole), history has shown again and again that wars are won by those who had the equipment and the reserves

For anyone not a screeching retarded subhuman, its perfectly reasonable course of action to have a well-funded big army when sharing a border with a huge hostile country who also has a big army

>>2447787
Played through the demo and it looks interesting. can't wait for it to release.

>>2449974
Nayrt but nigga, that's just how the game mechanics work. Stop seething about imaginary jeets and take it up with Torpor Games.

I feel like you should get to...pick your cabinet at least. Playing Rayne as anything other than some mildly kleptocratic oligarch just doesnt feel right. Put aside the fact that you'll just get shot for going full commie, it doesnt even make sense that youd have a cabinet full of capitalists in the first place given, presumably YOU picked them.

>>2450101
I'm most bothered by the inability to pick my starting party.

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>>2449974
>>2449974
>Calm down rajeesh and take a sip of your cow piss.
>Unlike in whatever shithole conflicts your third world country is known for where bunch of shitskin retards shoot at one another for couple of days, in the civilized world (white countries, not your shithole), history has shown again and again that wars are won by those who had the equipment and the reserves
>For anyone not a screeching retarded subhuman, its perfectly reasonable course of action to have a well-funded big army when sharing a border with a huge hostile country who also has a big army
You're one fucking retard to play the game wrong like the retard you are, get called out for that fact, and then have a meltdown over poojeets out of ganges shit river out of nowhere.
There's no shame in using a guide if you're this much of a shitter.

>>2450155
Your parents definitely could've used a DIY abortion guide to save themselves the trouble of raising autistic manchild like you who has screaming meltdown when someone critiques his faggot visual novel. Now continue your little autism meltie, its funny to me

>>2450293
>LOOK HOW ANGRY YOU ARE
Take a breath, my guy

>>2450317
>does exactly as I order him to
good doggy

>>2450319
Nayrt, faggot.
Not having a melty at all, you're just being a sperg who randomly rants about Indians because a VN isn't exactly how you want it.

>>2450409
what a well trained obedient doggy you are

>>2450101
>I feel like you should get to...pick your cabinet at least
It kind of makes sense you don't have too much input on that its a broad coalition cobbled together of Solists and social reformers who only banded together to take down Alphonso they'd probably already been promised their jobs during that one slide in the prologue where you decide how you want to ask him to step down.

>>2450419
Is this some sort of fetish?

>>2450430
should have an option to purge them if going full commie though.

>>2450431
You sound raped

>>2450101
You should have the ability to "remove" them through the game but lore-wise you don't have a choice on cabinet. The deep state is pulling strings.

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>>2450619
You are the deepstate in suzerain in the Sordland campaign bro. peter vectern, lucian, gus manger, karl, and anton rayne are the VERY DEFINITION of the deepstate embezzling money and fucking over the entire country no matter what they do. When I first played through the game I kept trying to assume that nothing was wrong with the country and there was no shadowy cabal out to get everyone because everyone had individual motivations that made sense. Then I made one backdoor deal after another and suddenly the economy was collapsing and I was dunking peter in a vat of acid. Then I had a moment where I said out loud "Ohhhh. I just suicided epstein". EVERYTHING you do is at the expense of everyone else in the Sordland campaign and you are not the most intelligent person to govern.

This is in extreme contrast to the dlc where it's basically impossible to lose. You're king and everyone loves you and you make the best decisions for everybody because your family stands to benefit.

DLC announcements have been made - DLC where you play as a journalist in Kyrute, a standalone war game, and Galmland DLC

https://www.suzeraingame.com/the-neutral-lens

https://www.suzeraingame.com/galmland

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>>2450775
>Rule Through Collective Power
Govern alongside a committee of comrades, each with their own ambitions, loyalties, and vision for the future. Build consensus, delegate authority, and manage internal rivalries to keep the government united.
Sure, I swear I am definitely going to do that.

>>2450775
Cool stuff. Not sure I dig the whole "Suzerain but without a country to lead" thing though, and the text at the bottom of the journalist dlc page saying 2026 but not the Galmland one makes me think the latter won't come out this year.

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>>2450788
hmmm yeah I'm thinking it's purge time

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>>2450843
It doesn't help that by the looks of it we are getting the lame communists instead of the ones like pic rel who I could actually believe were workers. I won't feel anything when signing the orders.

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>>2450293
>Your parents definitely could've used a DIY abortion guide to save themselves the trouble of raising autistic manchild like you who has screaming meltdown when someone critiques his faggot visual novel. Now continue your little autism meltie, its funny to me

>woman MC
So will we be nuking Derdia faggots?

In my heart I'm with Hegel, but Sordland is incapable of imitating Valgsland. Its culture is too reactionary and its deepstate too entrenched. It needs an orthodox Malenyevist dictator to crush its deepstate and carry out a Mao-style cultural revolution so that the place won't do a 180 if people are allowed democracy again.

>>2450775
I'm most looking forward to the Rumberg war game, I enjoyed it in the Rizia DLC.

>>2451048
>Join the ranks of the Kingdom of Rumburg’s high command and lead your forces in the struggle against the Republic of Agnolia’s unyielding army
based, fuck agnoids and their retard president. tie me to a missile and fire me at Staalport, I am ready.

is the Rizia DLC worth it? maybe at the next steam sale?

>>2451093
Yes, its less suffering and more options. Also you get to do some fun combat, if you choose to go to war.

>>2451094
>>2451093
And no bitch wife, but you do get a selfish daughter.

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>>2450775
>Rule Through Collective Power
>Govern alongside a committee of comrades, each with their own ambitions, loyalties, and vision for the future
>Survive the Struggle for Power
>Navigate foreign influence as rival interests challenge your authority
*puts all budget into internal security*
we'll see about that, "comrades"

>>2441489
Nothing schizo about that, perfectly reasonable to make her understand she's a woman and not a leader.

>>2450705
>"Ohhhh. I just suicided epstein"
A bit of a reach, Peter was just a guy who had an inappropriate relationship with his assistant who had big tits and who also turned out to be a spy. The Epstein of the Suzerain world is more likely to be her Rumburgian employer or maybe that media mogul guy you can make a deal with, if I remember correctly, he had some ties with a gang.

>>2450775
I wonder if I will have any reason not to hate Lespia.

>>2450862
Yeah, though I guess it should have been obvious that the socialist country dlc would be really progressive, they had a homo-taliban and a gay marriage bill in Rizia and the franchise has always had women in places of power (even military power), so of course the dlc would make the country led by a woman with a racially diverse government and populace.

>>2451383
I'm getting True Korea vibes from the trailer so hopefully you can ditch champagne socialism and become true Juche niggaz.

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>>2451417
Considering how the player character is apparently the woman in the white uniform I think one can as play as a female Stalin/Kim-Il-Sung

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>>2451383
>>2451417
>>2451429
I think it will be more Cuba judging by the racial diversity and bright tropical colours of the clothes, ships and environment, along with the island nature of Galmland. I'm guessing female Fidel but I do doubt that we will be able to be as based as the actual Castro when it comes to social issues. It will be interesting to play a smaller nation that is communist from the start but I think there is a real opportunity for a good story following Malenyev's death and us playing the successor. To my understanding he is a Lenin figure due to him being the actual original revolutionary who unlike Lenin lived long past his power struggle. We could be anything from Stalin to Khrushchev to Xiaoping.

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>first playthrough
>do a bunch of shit for my whiny carpet salesman neighbor
>accept invite to intermerkopum
>i guess you can fuck yourself
Riveting storytelling here, guys. Lots of choices to make. What do I do with this? He's already given me a doorstopper that has a buttplug on it. Morella already backed out because I guess I didn't grant birds the right to vote or something.

>>2451244
You haven't played the game

>>2451545
>PLUS TWENTY SIX AUTHORITY PER TURN
wtf? I never had above about 6 total the entire game past the first turn

>>2451510
Wouldn't the successor to Malenyev come from his country?

>>2451547
Oh? Thank you for informing me of that.

>>2451554
I meant as a different dlc based around Cortana. Though I doubt they will do that given Galmland is the commie dlc. It is like I also want a dlc from the perspective of a new Arcasian president. Being a major power instead of a shitter one would be cool.

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>marrying the commie bitch
Don't tell me you can actually do this? I almost want to try.

>>2451805
Think about it two kingdoms under one crown. Worth putting up with a bitch. I dont think it is possible

>>2451805
She always says no, no matter what. Funny that you can ask though. And personally, I want commie mommy to feed me biscuits and sit on my face

>>2451884
You can hug her at least.

>>2451884
Pretty sure you could marry her if you offer to buy lespia's portion of the deal AND let her country privatize and then she says "whats in it for you?" and you threaten to call off the deal if she doesn't agree.
I haven't tried it though so you might know better than me.

>>2447787
They just made Sir Brante free to promote release of the new one, for anyone who didn't have it yet.

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>>2451907
Thank you I didn't know or have it.

>>2451907
>it's real
what the fuck, based

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Now if only my retarded daughter had just shut up and got herself married off to a duke.
I investigated the death of the MCs father and found out that the blonde military girl was responsible for it. Was I being thrown off by false information or is this actually correct?

>>2451907
You beauty, merci
>>2451946
Oh anon...

>>2451946
Yeah, you got had.

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>>2451429
The chick in white looks like a flight attendant, like bro :skull: look at my general-secretary :rose: #FREEGALMLAND #HEGELPLS

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thanks for making me feel like shit Torpor

guess I kinda deserved it

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>new dlc
>female commie
I think we know how female tankie politicians usually end

If it were up to me I'd have Tusk hanged on live TV

>>2452226
Kek wish she looked like that

>>2451510
I wonder how the game will react to certain situations. AnCap Raine and Monarch Toras aren't going to be the most receptive to True Valgsland, especially once Juche marches on the crypto-imperialist old man, an unbreakable tide of devout youth bringing an end to the false socialist-capitalism that has corrupted the once beautiful nation! I'm going to get nuked.

>>2451946
Yeah, it was yo boy Alvarez. Devious little bastard, but a shit none the less.

>>2452467
JUCHE AWAITS!

>>2452641
I hope the visual novel DLC they're making lets you interview these assholes. Rusty's sleazy enough and shitty enough, I can easily see him sitting down for a couple bucks just to get roasted on live TV.

>>2451946
>I investigated the death of the MCs father and found out that the blonde military girl was responsible for it. Was I being thrown off by false information or is this actually correct?
It's not correct, the blonde girl caused false flag but the priest murdered the father

It's worth it more to blackmail Lespia so I can get Rusty and the RRG than to tell the world about the bombing no?

>>2453179
For sure, nothing happens to Lespia internationally if you snitch on them, but they lose a major asset if you blackmail them.

>>2453135
>I wonder how the game will react to certain situations. AnCap Raine and Monarch Toras
They really need a hoi4 style gamerule at this point, I don't really want to replay Sordland just to get the game history I want for Rizia and Galmland.
>Toras
My King has a bromance with Hegel, we call each other late at night and bitch about the Lespian-Pales gay relationship.
>Alvarez
Anon...

>>2453179
>>2453181
Can you still only do this by sending the Golden Guard onto SU? I don't want to break relations with Rico as I am planning to chud out. Also is it worth it to shoot his dog so him and Vina get along? I don't care that much about who she marries as I am going to breed the blonde for a true heir. I get the feeling that popping his dog will sour our communiques.

So why can't we drink that crap? I'm pretty sure Romus is the chosen one since he can see the future.

>Hegel's a loose cannon.
>Sordland is a failed state with a broken economy, a screwed up one-party system, and not one but THREE potential uprisings on the horizon.
>Rizia's an expansionist monarchy ran by inbred naarcissts.
>Galmsland is best Valgsland.
>Beatrice clearly plans to destroy Sordland.
Alvarez did absolutely nothing wrong. I'd be building up and expanding too.

>>2453179
Yes. Its not too hard to get Zille back without snitching and that way you get RRG and Rusty's toilet seat for yourself

>>2453400
This post was typed with shaking alcoholic lespian hands

>>2453421
Considering how I never won as Sordland, but won as Rizia, I have to say the superior and more finely cultivated genetics of southern Merkopa played a distinct role in the fall of Sordland. Those half-Valgish mongreloids are simply too low IQ to compete with their betters.

>>2453400
They've character assassinated lespia by making them comically evil. If you don't negotiate with Morella he will try to steal your shares which is retarded because you can just say no and nothing will come out of it and he'll be all pissed but if you vote yes and give your shares to lespia he will act smug and mock you for it. It's literally just acting evil for the sake of acting evil because devs are leftists roachmen who can't write

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>>2453429
Nukecel says what?

>>2442190

I hate that there's no war path where you give beatrice the romanov ending.

>>2442190
Kind of disappointed Rizia didn't get to see any of the aftershocks from the Nuclear War. With my oversized military, I was wondering if I would get a 'Gaddafi after the bombs dropped' scenario where Rizia uses it's oversized army to raid Lespia and Whelen for resources, blackmails ATO with refugee hordes, while somehow providing a relatively high quality of life to it's citizenry.

>>2453446
The Rums are, at best, a second rate northern race. While they're certainly above the slobbering Sords and the Lespians who have yet to learn how to control their bowels, one cannot deny their noticeable weaknesses when compared to the Rizian bloodlines.

Dear pernicious taxpayer-money-sucking berliners (turks) of Torpor Games, please put the fucking gold bar on sale so I can complete my collection.
And do Wehlen or Lespia next instead of literally who micronesian commies.

If you can't Beriamaxx in the commie DLC it's a waste of time

Reminder that the reason this takes place in a fictional world instead of IRL is because Erdogan would have the devs killed if they dared slander the glorious Republic of Turkiye.

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Reminder all you niggers who spent the past 5 years seething about Rumburg will bend over backwards and simp for teen Beatrice in the next game

>>2453614
I won't. Total R*m Death.

>>2453439
It's just aggressive protectionism.
Rizia is supposed to be a chuddy reversal of Sordland wherein the fading leviathan reasserts itself and puts the uppity bourgeoise republican libtards in their place but Alvarez being such a greasy Berlusconi expy somewhat undermines the point.

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>>2453616
YOU WILL SUPPORT THE QUEEN
YOU WILL LEAD HER ARMIES TO VICTORY OVER AGNOLIA
YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED

>>2453614
uoh erotic warcriminal

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>>2453614
>Join the ranks of the Kingdom of Rumburg’s high command and lead your forces in the struggle against the Republic of Agnolia’s unyielding army.
>A high-stakes, turn-based war strategy game set in the Suzerain Universe where every decision on the battlefield can decide the outcome of the war.
>struggle
>agnoia's unyealding army
>high stakes

>>2453766
I think Rumburg's army may be incompetent.
The fact if you use any sort of actual clever strategy it folds to a third rate power like Sordland should tell you that.

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>>2453773
Yeah, but then looking at it again, Rumburg seems to be very sparsely populated. Look at the Agnolian border. God knows how poor their logistic situation is going to be in both wars.

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>>2453776
I think they are going for a Russian thing but the issue is their setup looks more like Siberia then anything else. I'm guessing the vast majority of the Rummish logistics will be railway networks but given that sparsity and underdeveloped frontier it will probably be like pic rel with all the bottlenecks it faced irl.

>>2453773
It's explained in game. The Mark, Sord, Valg and Agno tribes are all purple-blooded people (Aryans) from the Great North. They raped the inferior peasant people of the Kingdom of Rums for 1500 years. Only in the recent years did the Rums manage to multiply so much they have the possibility to win by sheer numbers but they are still not strong compared to smaller but purple-blooded nations like Agnolia.

>>2453789
>The Mark, Sord, Valg and Agno tribes are all pur-
>*NUKED*
Credit roll...

>>2453792
>can't win a war without throwing nukes around like a sperg
Let's be real, if you thought the AN sanctions for having their nuclear program revealed were bad, nuking Sordland because you can't fucking win a conventional war against a country as dysfunctional as Sordland is would likely lead to Rumburg becoming North Korea-tier isolated. When they're dependent on energy imports.

>>2453773
Well, the Pincer maneuver failed for me one time after I funded the army. I'm pretty sure that game was bugged due to Rictor accusing me of shit I didn't do but I wouldn't call the Rums incompetent.

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>>2453766
Rumburg is basically just Tzarist Russia
if that doesn't clue you in on the incredible depths of their military incompetence not sure what will

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>>2454146
Tsarist Russia mixed with some strong Anglo-Saxon influence, you have some names lifted straight from 9th century England like Eadric. I'd also argue it was less the Russian military and more the house of cards at the home front. Brusilov would have continued his dance over the Carpathians were everything peachy back in the industrial heartlands. Despite her bold expansionism, I'm assuming Beatrice's domestic situation is not as stable as it appears.

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>>2454146
Tsarist Russia was overall not that incompetent, just middle of the road. It just that:
German war machine was built different.
The army's logistics were failed by the home front and politicians.
Kerensky's or some other republican's retarded reform was passed that kill the army. Elected officers or something I can't remember.

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>>2454187

Do you think they will add a war option for Zille? It might be redundant honestly given you can use your paramilitaries to get it back.

>>2454188
Initial forces not counting reinforcements.. Germans and Austrians then began desperately funneling everything they could spare there to plug the Brusilov gap. Else Austria would have collapsed and Russia would have gotten the Good Ending.

>>2454194
Where's the strength counting reinforcements? every other article for battles includes that number.

>>2454176
>>2454187
Reading the "The Russian Army in the World War" by Golovin shows an utterly incompetent Tsarist administration and officer class.
And this was written by a White, not a Red.

Solo war is the only correct choice. You bismark Beatrice.

>>2454198
It's somewhat relative, you have to remember that the other Great Powers had many similar issues with procurement and tactics so zeroing in on the Russian failures paints an incorrect picture, as would only looking at the Somme or Nivelle offensive when judging the Entente's capabilities. Don't forget that the Russian army was not routed from the front until their home front collapsed in on itself, their main issue was a lack of supply and domestic stability rather then a lack of competence. That is not to say they were amazing, they had many awful command decisions, but just that when compared to their contemporaries they were by no means lightweights. Their government were definitely, undeniably, incompetent however.

Wait, is the wiki right? Can you actually get away with going full commie so long as you give Iosef a pile of money and win the war?

>>2454262
As long as you avoid actually saying your a communist to him and don't piss him off in other ways yes

>>2454262
>>2454459
Also trialling Soll gets you couped if I remember correctly, assuming you didn't pull a Stalin and purge your military. Personally I think it would be cool if you could persecute Sollists from a Luderinist perspective.

>>2454262
I wish I had a screenshot but my favorite scene in the entire game is when you're doing a communist run in Sordland and I think it's when you announce an alliance with Valgsland or United Contana and Iosef throws a shit fit seething at you, and Anton can just respond "I trust your judgment and our troops." and Iosef just immediately calms down and forgets about it entirely. It's so funny. You can be a raging Stalinist and as long as you don't say anything commie in front of him he is unaware. My headcanon is that he just never reads the news and has no clue what Anton is doing outside of military stuff.

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>>2454995
Gee I wonder who Iosef is supposed to be a charicature of.

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>>2454998
Didn't even notice this until now but if you look closely zhukovs airbrows are still on iosef above iosefs eyebrows, just flipped from the picture on the right.

I slightly rotated them here but did nothing else except cut them off zhukovs face and move them above iosefs half visible eyebrows

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>>2454998
I don't see it whatsoever, they look nothing alike and their tactics barely mirror each other besides "pocket encirclement". There is just nothing that connects them, personally, politically or militarily. Sidenote but I also hate how the Suzerain devs do military uniforms, they look either completely dissimilar to one another or out of tone for their nation. Iosef and Valken look like members from different armies, with Valken having multiple crowns on his uniform despite his boss being a diehard Republican. Iosef's uniform is just generic western-aligned Cold War and Valken has basically a British general's uniform. Same thing with Taddeus and Carlos to a lesser extent, they look so generic for a nation like Rizia. Personally I would give them more ceremonial uniforms similar to Romus'.

>>2455068
Iosef isn't in the military he's the defense minister. Valken is in the military. This is something suzerain got COMPLETELY correct.

>>2455533
Clearly he was promoted to the MOD from high command or he wouldn't have that uniform.

>>2447787
It's fucking dogshit, no wonder no one talks about it anymore.
>AI art and janky gifs which don't loop correctly
>Calculator gameplay that's even worse than in brante
>Story is abysmal, characters are one dimensional
>Plot is a nothinburger, I don't recall anything interesting happening
>A completely linear story that's even worse than brante.
A shameless moneygrab from people who sang their song and have nothing to say or add but still have to make slop for a quick buck

>>2451429
Meh, are there any games like Suzerain that don't have any onions politics?

>>2455610
>are there any BASED video games developed by people who make 6 figure salaries for sitting in literal ivory towers programming while the country is burned down?
no, not even one, much less one about politics.

>>2451038
Since Sol already approves of a nationalized economy, the country is actually already primed to accept communism as long as you don't *call* it that. Leave the churches alone, have a big military and go on about Sord pride in speeches and they'd never notice or resist the fact everything under the surface is Malenyevist.

>>2455935
That is interesting. What exactly is the sollists problem with communism? Women's rights? Is that it? Bludish rights?

>>2455936
Sollist problem with Communism is that it isn't Sollism.

>>2455068
Valken's insignia has crowns because he was part of the Royal Army. Soll probably grandfathered in the old pre-civil war military honors to retain the loyalty of the anti-commie military faction during the civil war.

>>2455936
Yes and Yes

>>2455936
>"What exactly is the national socialists problem with communism? Is it, perhaps, that communism necessarily doesn't include nationalism with it's socialism?"
my impression of you

>>2456014
Except when you are a nationalist communist they're still mad, so it's not that.

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>>2456019
I... I don't know how to help someone who is as dumb as you. I'm sorry.

>>2456022
Projection.

>>2444313
>chipmunk Romus
Context?

>>2455996
I can accept that answer but Soll still explicitly purged the monarchist faction of the military, if I remember correctly their was an update that went more in depth with it in the codex to state that the monarchist nationalists basically consider him a scheming rat who unironically stabbed them in the back. I wish the devs gave some minor dialogue options to let Soll you oppose him not because you are a liberal but because you consider him one. Luderin did nothing wrong.
The rumours that Lucian was a member of the Black Battalion makes him a far more interesting character despite him already being up there already.
>>2455936
It exists outside of Soll's personality cult.

>>2456469
*to let Soll know

>>2440001
Is the kingly DLC worth it? I liked the original

>>2455935
So its a nationalist form of socialism? Making sure the filthy blunds don't get it? hhm.

>>2456379
Those mouth gluing biscuits the commie lady gives you without tea if you piss her off

Seeing Sordland from the inside demonstrates why not all countries can be democracies. There are certain prerequisites that have to be met or the whole thing will go to shit. The number of corrupt compromises you have to make to, say, liberalize the constitution, the extent to which you have to limit your own ability to fight corrupting forces, is utterly demoralizing. I did that hippy dippy path my first time through - never again. Sordland is a hive of scum and villainy and needs a full fucking purge.

>>2459290
It's literally Turkey and people try to play it as though it's America. Being a corrupt but primarily in the service of a greater good rather then self-enrichment is the best you are going to get.

>>2459318
Ironically, America has basically turned into Christian Turkey.

>>2459344
Meh, parts perhaps but you have to balance it out State by State. That analogy works for a good chunk of the nation but falls laughably on it's face when you consider California and New York exist and are leading powers both culturally and economically. I know Ankara and Istanbul can be kind of faggy but it's a whole different ball game in the US. Sordland's experience would probably be better if it was closer to Turkey rather then the mismatch of Franco-Ataturk just to ground itself more.

>https://store.steampowered.com/app/4515280/Suzerain_Stories_The_Neutral_Lens/
Thoughts on the new DLC they announced? Not quite sure why I need the base game to play as a news reporter

>>2461818
Meh, not really interesting to me.

>>2461818
I'm a geopolitics loser so all the human stuff is the worst element of suzerain to me, I just don't see anything that appeals to me with this dlc.

>>2459290
>>2459318
This, I remember the first time I played this game and went full Reddit libtard. I got BTFO. I don’t think I realized before going in just how much of a backwards shithole Sordland was. Played it years later after actually studying politics with a sort of pragmatic Dengist-style Rayne where I aimed for capitalist but not political reforms and did much better. (Game even called me a “Neo-Sollist Capitalist” at the end which is exactly what I was going for.)

>>2461818
>Thoughts on the new DLC they announced?
could be cool, but it's definitely the least interesting of their upcoming projects
>be a Rumburgian General, navigate the power struggle between the Duke Regent and the Princess while leading an army to battle
>be the Premier of a recently established Socialist State, navigate internal factions and a divided nation and try your best not to get purged or ousted by your CSP "allies"
>be a fucking podcaster
just doesn't hit as hard

>>2461818
Not at all interested. I'm looking for ward to the commie DLC and the new game though.

>>2459290
>The number of corrupt compromises you have to make to, say, liberalize the constitution, the extent to which you have to limit your own ability to fight corrupting forces
skill issue, I think the only thing approaching corruption I did in my lib playthrough (no women's reform though fuck you monica lol) was promise VP to alvin or whatever his name was to get the reformist wing vote, but then I reneged on the promise anyway like a boss. started the ACP and both oligarchs got the ding dong bannu, felt good.

Nia Morgna is so hot.

>>2464421
Her pussy belongs to Ciara Walda, sorry.

>>2464616
@Karl, remove Ciara, and make it seem like she ran off with an unknown lesbian mistress that she was seeing behind Nia's back.

>>2464616
@Karl, cure homosexuality.

Replaying this game sucks dick having to read the same family drama bullshit every time I don’t know how you people enjoy this

>>2459290
>>2459318
People are very thin on Turkish history, even playing HoI4 would be an improvement for them.

How many even know that "Deep State" (Derin Devlet) came from Turkey to describe the So- I mean, Kemalists?

When will get a leader who lives the life of a sleazy bachelor behind the scenes? Sleeping with the wives of rivals and friends, pinching the cheeks of female leaders after a UN meeting, inviting celebs to your presidential palace or being invited to some movie moguls private island...

>>2464700
RL Turkey deep state is much more than the Sollists.

>>2464421
>>2464616
They both belong to a Young Sord Rayne, suave sexism shall save their wombs from disuse.
>>2464685
Especially when you know Franc is going straight to the military in your run.

>>2464733
If they didn't do it with a womanizer Romus then I doubt they ever will. Suzerain weg when?

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Karl just gets shit done, it's why I like him

>>2464750
>Suzerain weg when?
been wondering the same thing. the only rulership/political wegs I'm aware of are either pretty niche (Ravager where you're a literal dragon or Naked Ambition where you're a foid Long Live the Queen/Princess Maker style), or Vae Victis which is gobboslop

>>2465363
It's still such a whiplash that he chose that option to deal with him, very cool guy but God damn Karl. Also weird how you can do that shit to your best friend but nothing to your wife when she takes your daughter.
>>2465523
Honestly I think it would be fairly simple to do if you keep the management/political angle constantly present but not overbearing like a minigame you have to do to get a scene. Make it a simple Kennedy playboy or Cleveland (alleged) blackmailer choice with corresponding different outcomes and you're golden on the sex front. Also avoid some pandering message, that is always written poorly in these types of games.
>Ravager
I can appreciate the art of the girls but I'm not a fan of scalie stuff and it just goes way too much towards it for me to tolerate it. The dragon dick is purple and the size of the girls it's entering, that's not even hot, it's just retarded.
>female mc
I'm perfectly willing to play the Galmland femcel commie dictator sim but a porn game where you're a girl is just weird and gay.
>Vae Victis
I like it due to it's uniqueness and it being actually very well done when comparing to other gobboslop, prefer 2d art but it's not a deal breaker for me. The fact that it has that much content and variety is also a major plus.

>>2466065
>uniqueness and it being actually very well done
okay I'll have to check it out, it was years ago when I last played it and I couldn't tell whether it was going to open up into an actually compelling game

>>2466122
It's definitely worth it if you are looking for a conquer and pillage/kingdom management sex game but don't expect it to be like suzerain lol. It's more like Ravager conceptually. Ideally it would have Ravager's art as well but it is already more then decent in my view.

>>2466065
Dictator Anton should be able to acid his bitch ex-wife Monica then gaslight Deana into believing Bludish terrorists took mommy away
they don't call it the Rayne of Terror for nothing

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>>2466219
I think there should be a humane option of pre-empting the divorce by having Monica secretly detained and then committed to a private mental hospital/asylum whilst then gaslighting Deana to only love you now that Mommy's gone. Franc probably wouldn't believe you and the friction can arise there by keeping him away from Deana.

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>>2466405
>having Monica secretly detained and then committed to a private mental hospital/asylum
Benito...

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>>2466405
>>2466506
Would certainly make for a fun little detail, and basically let you play as Stalin.

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>>2466524
I've said it before but I think the devs are unironically too normie to have thought about it. A lot of the content for the more extreme paths is good but misses just that extra bit of creativity that real dictators show. Rayne is also very reactive rather then getting out ahead of everything. The acid bath is fun but also weirdly too far, as though they looked up fucked up ways to kill people and chose some cartel method over something more traditionally dictatorial like drowning, shooting, suffocating or beating to death.

>>2466564
isn't an acid bath just to get of a body without leaving any trace? I assume they don't want to let the ebul incels harm le wahmen in their game.

>>2466566
That would work I suppose but it feels more breaking bad/narcos when a Soviet style shoot and cremate is more fitting. I felt bad for Petr, I thought Karl was just going to beat him and then cut his throat or something, acid baths and boiling alive will always be way too rancid for me no matter the justification. The spy girl does join him in that death though so you can at least kill one woman. On that topic I would also appreciate the option to imprison anyone who resigns, with the idea that you only need to do it once for that kind of foolish decision making to stop.

>>2466405
I can't do it. Even as dictator Rayne I'm still a family man. The only break I'm ok with there is if I'm playing as a tradNurist and think women should stay in the kitchen (though that exposes a blatant flaw in the writing - a traditionalist wouldn't marry someone like Monica in the first place, so the writers have presumed Rayne is a feminist).

The writers for this game need to communicate better. There are mutliple codex entries that contradict each other because different people obviously wrote them, never read each others' work to make sure they didn't contradict, and evidently did not agree on the lore beforehand or else there wouldn't be contradictions in the first place.

I'm new to the game, is there any randomness to things at all? Like if I make the same choices will the game play out the exact same every time?

>>2466598
Specifically with the Young Sord background, the suspension of disbelief I need to know Monica married a street fighting neo-nazi who told her he wasn't interested in her feminism only to then complain about it and act shocked after two kids and decades of marriage is immersion breaking. It isn't even just a woman moment as if it were you would have an option to correct her as you have to assume you did multiple times over your years of marriage.
>>2466599
Allegedly, they used ai for some of the codexes. They edited many to not be so wordy and redundant with their repeated sentences after people commented on it which really does make you think. Also for me it's the flags, so many of them are fucking awful. Take the CSP flag for instance, it's yellow with red stars because for some reason they simply cannot bear copying real life's communist colours despite doing the exact thing with United Cortana, whose flag looks infinitely better due to that fact. Valgland's flag also looking very garish and un-communist as well, despite Hegel being a great character. A lot of the decisions for the world building and geography are very strange and it would frankly be better if they did just copy irl's geopolitical situation in the fifties and hit it with a hammer like every other fiction writer.
>>2466651
It will play out the same but if you make different prologue choices like Red Youth vs Young Sord or lawyer vs historian it will have different dialogue and different options available but certainly nothing to start a new game to look at unless you were already planning to do a different run.

>>2466566
But we can do it to Livia?

>>2440001
this game sucks. it's a twine game. we need something truly next-gen and innovative where the point of the text interface is the inherent ambiguity that you have to work around in statecraft and not to dump long-ass scenes of you playing chess with one of your cabinet ministers.

I never found Livia that attractive. She was ok but nothing to ruin your marriage, political career and life over. It is realistic though that an aging playboy has blinkers on when a girl responds to him.

>>2466696
Her tits were apparently her main draw but we can't see them.

>>2466702
Shit ass liberal devs
Mountains of Montaker when?