Is there a single /vst/ game where the longbowman isn't OP?
How many games can you even name that specifically have longbows? I recall AoE2, AoE3, Tzar, and Cultures 2.
>>2456310eu4they barely have better pips than their competition and are therefore not op
>>2456335>How many games can you even name that specifically have longbows? I recall AoE2, AoE3, Tzar, and Cultures 2.civ seriesEU seriessome total war games
>>2456310Battle BrothersTactics Ogre Reborn
>>2456310Red Alert 2You have Bri'ish Snipers instead
>>2456310AoE2
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>>2456425>Battle BrothersYou sure about that, boy?
>>2456488Yes. For the player they are the worst ranged weapon. For enemies they can be good if they have terrain advantage and can shoot from a hill or behind barriers. So all in all certainly not overpowered.
>>2456512Worse than slings or swords he says
>>2456512I actually agree, I was just making the joke because I've lost many a good bro to master archers in what should have been easy brigand fights.
>>2456528Well slings are so bad I forgot they existed.
>>2456580>Well slings are so bad I forgot they existed.Go back and read Hamlet, fool.
>>2456310BOWS OF ARTEMIS
>>2456310Conquest of Elysium 5
>>2456310Civ 3. It's just a poor man's *attacking* unit in case you got no luck getting iron to produce medieval infantry. The actual top defensive unit of the era is actually the pikeman in this game.
>>2456486fucking halflings
>>2456310OG Stronghold, also crossbows are cooler in general
>Compared to Archers, Longbowmen have +8 hit points, +1 attack strength, +2 attack range, and cost -10 Timber, as well as doing -5% damage against all units except Heavy Infantry, against which they do +23.5% damageWeird damage reduction
>Is there a single /vst/ game where the longbowman isn't OP?No, because bri'ish historical revisionism has made everyone believe that any (English) villager with a longbow was a medieval sniper commando who could shoot a (French) knight between the eye slit from 200 paces.In reality, the longbow was a somewhat effective weapon in the 10th and 11th centuries until plate armor technology advanced to the point where basically no arrow could penetrate it. Fortunately, this was concomitant with the advance in firearms technology and so we never had to suffer through a boring tank meta.
>>2462601how pretentious does the game need to be to use "wealth" and "timber" instead of gold and wood?
>>2456310Longbows are pretty shit in Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn. They're never that good in the rest of the series besides having 3 range compared to the standard bows' 2, but RD puts a -30% accuracy penalty on using them at 3 range which absolutely fucks them. Archers in general tend to be pretty mediocre in that series too.
>>2456310Are there any combat strategy games where powerful missile units aren't OP?
>>2462663How are you confidently spouting such bullshit? 10th and 11th centuries? Crécy was late 14th and Agincourt was 15th
>>2470267arrowed that sucker
>>2456335Baldur's Gate, Baldur's Gate 2, Icewind Dale, Icewind Dale 2.
>>2456310Dominions. They're the best archers (especially if you're not counting crossbowmen), but they still get cucked by anything with shields or air magic.In the middle age they at least have some use, as long as you're not up against someone with air magic, but in the late age where everything wears heavy armor and crossbows are easy to get for basically anyone they're lame as fuck.
>>2470393Wrong board, /vrpg/ boy.
>>2456310Empire Earth. they are treated as a mere support unit and get bodied by almost every melee and siege unit.
>>2456310Longbow man .... Did you just assume their gender .... Or isn't that what you lib's always say !!!! LOL !!!!!
>>2470524The use case for longbows is for counter crossbows. Unless it LA agartha most crossbow men dont have heavy armor.
>>2456310The games where shorter bows on horseback run rings around them
They’re not all that great in FOG2 medieval, but that could just be user error on my part. They’re too clunky to use. Yes four or five volleys can distrupt a unit, but because your own troops can’t move through them (nor can the longbowmen run through your own lines when the enemy starts advancing), they kinda screw up your whole army cohesion. If they could move through units like light troops, they would be a nightmare. I’m not that great at the game though, so again could be user error.
>>2456310Longbowmen SHOULD be OP. They were OP in real life (inb4 French copium)
>>2476436If they were so OP how come only a few swamp dwelling tribals used them?
>>2476436Patay
>>2476438>If they were so OP how come only a few swamp dwelling->ACKKKKK
>>2456335In Civ5 the longbow is the deluxe weapon for England replacing the standard crossbow. It has a range of 3 where all other ranged weapons have a range of 2 until artillery of the industrial era, making the longbow the MOST op unit in the game.
>>2477892>MOST op unit in the game....by a longshot.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zXDo4dL7SU
>>2477892it also passes this ability to upgraded units.
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>>2478300VP fixed that?
>>2462663This man would drown in the mud of Agincourt
>>2470267bodkined that fool
>>2478367To be fair longbowman was jacked too and arrows were expensive.
>>2478367Archers spent their entire lives training as well. They were mostly drawn from peasant hunters, or professional archers.It's actually one of the reasons why the musket caught on, because it required far less training beyond "how to reload, aim, and shoot" skills.
>>2489002>arrows were expensive[citation needed]
>>2456310>longbowman isn't OP?MOM?-hobbit slingers are better than the hi-elf longbows. once fully upgraded anyways.-nomad's rangers are about as strong as them, except they also move faster on the overworld map, and fight better in melee.-beastman centaurs and nomad horsebowmen can charge at them while shooting back at them. once they get into melee, the longbows will probably die. unless of cose, magic enchantments or higher rank.
>>2460605>>2456486i love hobbits a lot in this game.
>>2489009yes, Muskets kill Longbows in all of the Civ games AFAIK.
