>2026>Grand Campaign / Imperator Augustus campaign are still shit >Carthage (GC) is even more shit>graphics look terrible, even if you have a good PC and HD mods>only 4 interesting factions of ALL that exist and consoom your life time by the endless turn passes (Roma, Baktria, Makedon, Massilia)>boring ugly barbarians (non-grecorromans, even the punics)>cities with no walls, awful province design, distribution and extension>cities changed according to "culture" into marbleholes or (lit) shitholes>both, campaing and battle, movements still are bugged or just don't work at all >lit. same battle maps, all battles feel repetitive>"Groundhog Day" with tech trees, buildings and "rpg" (useless, boring, unneccesary, time-wasting... family tree, politics, character skills, etc.)What was the point of creating this game? Why didn't they do a Rome Remaster Plus?What is the point that a Rome Remastered if R2 still unfinished and bugged, and R1 still playable (with good graphic and overhaul mods) IN 2026?
Even overhaul mods like 'Bronze Age' still are bugged, boring af and also ugly, and for some reason the female members of your white/ish family are blacks.
You can't get rid of the blacks even in the Dark Ages mod ('Medieval 1100 AD').
Nothing matters, nothing happens, there's only boredom.>major % culturechanges>YOUR culture is the dominant>the rebels are the former faction that is NOT from your culture>instrad of being part of YOURSWhat is the point? "Schizo-larp" only in your head?
>family tree free update>trying to be a Paradox-like to get new consoomers>it's even worse than CK2>you can't do nothingAgain, more useless boring timewasteslop.
Talking again about the "culture" crap, other factions that belong to YOUR SAME cultural group have "cultural aversion" for some unknown reason (it's not explained).
Ofc, there is a random (((merchant tribe))) in your empire for some unknown reason despite not having territories in the Levant, and somehow they get free provinces that YOU, not them, conquered.
At least the representation of the (((tribe))) is accurate, but, AGAIN, there are no real consequences in the gameplay, in the evolution of the campaign.
>Carthage conquered Roma, the Eternal City>its battle map is downgraded to just another random "marble_city" >because the "culture changed" and the building placement was "adapted" to the new owner
Walls still are bugged IN 2026, you can't have proper deployment nor combat.
Also, doors still are bugged. If an enemy unit pass closer to their doors, they are opened for them, but you can NOT pass for some unknown reason.
>useless ugly nomadic factions exist in game>consoom time and resources, both, in game and your PC >this factions and part of the map should be removed and focus in what matters ('Mare Nostrum')>they have settlements, aka shitholes>they are NOMADS
>celtics turn the beautiful clean hellenic Massilia into this shithole>somebody in CA headquarters, back in 2010 (?), thought it was a cool idea>forget that celtics can own marble mines, so they could upgrade their shitholes into actual proper cities (this is too ultra-high-IQ for CA)
Also, celtic females are brown, even in Jutland, why? Idk.This could explain why they live in shitholes and turn cities into shitholes.
Another awful thing, the names of the armies>picrel, "The Terror of Phobos">aka, "The Deimos of Fear"Who scripted this shit? Not even the names make sense nor are cool. NOT EVEN THAT.
More Paradox-like useless bugged slop, the events, the SPAM of events (the worst thing is the sound of the spam). The event of picrel is bugged because the city was secured and prosperous, there was no enemy there, not even in the near provinces.Last time I checked, there was NO mod to avoid them. This game is one of the worst I played, it literally has no redemption, CA will just find another way to make it even worst, somehow.
Blessed thread
>>2459543Thanks, anon. Be blessed by Th'Olympians.
>>2459483Yeah fuck Rome 2 and fuck CA. Whoever pays for their games after that clusterfuck is a fucking retard
I liked it
rome II was the start of modern TW and the downfall of the franchise. > unplayable buggy mess on launch>start of DLC whoring>start of the whole armies must have a general and units are recruited to him directly instead supposedly to fix an exploit in a single player game.>start of the whole major.minor settlement garbage>way too quick battles favoring the adhd zomer gamer
>>2459585gay.
>>2459610The battles are more fluid and fair than old total warThe technologies and evolution of units are good at least for rome the faction i playedSieges are stale and bad but its better than old rome tw good luck fighting chariots in a siege in the originalNow for the random black people thats a you problem i never had a celtic black queen on my gameThe only true bad part about this game are naval batlles its just broken
>>2459617>more fluidNo>fairNo>siegesNot true sieges in the older games were far better.>conclusionYou are gay
>>2459483Ah yes, Total War autoresolve.
>>2459494Up your graphics. This looks shit.
>>2459599>>start of DLC whoringI think you can blame that on Empire (2009).>>start of the whole major-minor settlement garbageAgain, settlements have been garbage since Empire:>campaign map, big cities>battle map, empty fort with bugged walls
Rent free?Rent free...
Was Rome 2 the epitome of piss filter in modern games?
>>2459849Rome 2 had no piss filter
>>2459850Why lie? The piss filter was one of the original complaints about it.
>>2459853Neither of thease is vamilla rome 2
>>2459483Nah, half of the stuff you are complaining about is fine. Tired of this bitching...
OP doesn't even mention the biggest issue with Rome 2 (and all other games based on Rome 2's engine like the Warhammer games); The complete and total assassination of any semblance of strategic gameplay through a combination of:>High replenishment>Replenishment over end turn>Recruit while moving>Lenient auto-resolve>Absurdly high morale and Army losses mechanic making every battle a stat-check because morale shock is rendered completely useless.In these games you just auto-resolve everything to death and every manual battle you have to take is gonna be only after exhausting every possibility and jumping through every hoop to hopefully turn it into an auto-resolve instead.
I just remember quitting after the realizing every enemy army was mostly skirmishers
>>2459850lfmao
>>2460057I didn't post them because many already have talked about them (greentext). But I didn't see many people talking about what I wrote.>>2459853THIS.Imagine if CA unified both maps, campaign and battle, so in real time (fuck turns) you move your armies and build cities around the ancient world, see how your citizens and soldiers live and die. The mouse wheel would be used to zoom the map in and out.
>>2459483>>cities with no walls, awful province design, distribution and extensionare there really people who miss the rome1 and med2 endless siege battles (who you always won because the AI just walked head first into the V formation you put at the gate)
>>2460403Well, the point of this franchise is the combats. Also, even in those games it gets a little tiredsome, there is fun, unlike in modern games with their endless micromanagement in both battle and campaign maps.
I'm playing the Seleucid campaign and while expanding my empire, I figured out too late (around turn 25) that I had to manually wed family members to begin a family and create offspring. Out of 7 members (youngest being 38), only 2 had children, 1 died in childhood. I now have 1 girl of 15 years old, left, carrying the future of a dynasty. Can I still recover from my mistake or is the family doomed? Could I increase my chances to have the girl have at least 3-4 children?
>>2460057>Recruit while movingwhat is the deal with this?I hate having to consider loss of movement as before building my armyI remember from Rome 1, my elephants could break down gates in smaller settlements, It appears It doesn't work for R2 anymore, can anyone confirm?
>>2460830Removing walls doesn't remove combat. You still have to fight the garrison.>Micromanagement I am pretty sure R1 and M2 had a lot more micromanagement on the campaign map due to how buildings worked.
>>2460057>>Absurdly high morale and Army losses mechanic making every battle a stat-check because morale shock is rendered completely useless.I translate this as Generals not being gods on horses in Rome 2
>>2461146I think you can adopt other family members if you really need to
>>2461151>what is the deal with this?It just removes a strategic layer. You fight a battle while you're headed to an enemy settlement, you replenish automatically and not only do you replenish you recruit (several units) on top of that. The result is that armies don't behave like armies. What you see on the map might be 25%-50% stronger next turn despite no settlement being nearby and for the player -choosing whether to press on with the army you have or wait for reinforcements is no longer necessary because you can have your cake and eat it too.
>>2461166>You still have to fight the garrison.It is the same map over and over again, it's shit.>R1 and M2 had a lot more micromanagement on the campaign map due to how buildings worked.In those games you can build whatever you want, just wait the turns, meanwhile in R2 (since Empire) you are castrated to a limited number of building slots, which become repetitive.If I wanted to build things, I would play a city-builder, but last time I checked TW wasn't a city-builder franchise (yet). I want to fight massive armies, and see cities burn and fall under me.
>>2461815Just auto-resolve against the garrison.Hell if you stack all buildings that improve units in the same region + 3 dignitaries for the 9 chevrons then you get unit with such bloated stats that you can win auto-resolves against 3 full armies with only one while taking minor losses that are fully refilled next turn.
>>2462188>nice digitsThanks anon, I know that. But I think you mistake the conclusion of my post, my point is the key of this game is the massive combats, if you must auto-resolve due to how boring and tedious combats are, what is the point of this kind of games?I played 'King Arthur: The Role-Playing Wargame', literally a Total War in all except the name, it was made by an actual INDIE studio, NeocoreGames. I never autoresolved, all combats were fun (despite it didn't have dismemberments nor blood like nuTWs) to play and I had actual RPG mechanics (this game was made in 2009 and absolutely mogs the Warhammer trilogy).
>>2461815>It is the same map over and over again, it's shit.that's true for R1 and M2 maps too, they just got walls.>In those games you can build whatever you want, just wait the turns, meanwhile in R2 (since Empire) you are castrated to a limited number of building slots, which become repetitive.How does a limited number of building slots make it more repetive or into a city builder?I think you're just letting nostalgia blind you anon.
>>2460057>>Lenient auto-resolveWhy would this be a problem unless need everyone to play these games the same way you do.
>>2462919>Why would this be a problem unless need everyone to play these games the same way you do.The problem lies in the fact that the auto-resolve does a better job than you do. In the older total wars it's the opposite.>Tough battle I better auto-resolve (and losses don't matter because i'll replenish over the end-turn anyway)vs>Tough battle I better fight it out and do my best because I don't want to lose my Cretan archers among other things
>>2462959That¨s not my experience so agree to disagree.
>>2462959Auto resolve its useless if you're playing on legendary,you need to lower your casualty and kill the enemy quickly if you want to win otherwise you're going to face multiple stacks at the same timeNow you can cheese your army composition to make the most of auto resolve but thats just cheesing like building an army of only generals in rome 1
>>2463291Fine I'll check some Rome 2 legendary playthrough on youtube for research because I'm not gonna reinstall this dogshit game. >First guy"I'm gonna try to do more manual battles"great start but not gonna give an accurate representation if he's going out of his way to do more manual than is normal. I'll watch Legend because I can trust that his autism will prevent him from fighting a manual battle if an auto is gonna yield a better result.
>>2462961>>2463291>>2463307So I watched Legend play but I lost count after 12 autos and 0 manuals. I think I'm done here. He also said something along the lines of "Auto is gonna be better because I won't be able to kill them all manually".Everything I've heard and seen and played of this game points in the direction of it being an auto-resolve-fest until this thread where there are 2 anons who claim otherwise so something's gotta give.
>>2463332>>2463307>play game on easy mode>waaahhh this game its too easy i only need to auto resolve to win it
>>2463349It was on Legendary
>>2463354Post the video here
How good auto-resolve is depends greatly on army composition too. Elephants are absolute trash in auto-resolve for example.
>>2463361Archers and missile units are op in normal battleBut in auto resolve they are useless
>>2462778>How does a limited number of building slots make it more repetive or into a city builder? Because you waste time thinking in what you need to build, while if it's unlimited, you can build whatever you want and not think too much of it.But, if I'm being honest, I would love if the building stuff was removed and just focus in the battle stuff. Unless, the campaign and battle maps end up being fused in one, so the game becomes an actual city/empire-builder open-world with massive battles (imagine if they added first/third person combat too like in Mount&Blade), now that would be an actual innovation/revolution in this subgenre.
>>2463358https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BVxIJ-7wKc
>>2463358>>2463380I just found out he had a more recent playthrough uploaded because I predict your response from a mile away>That was years ago they totally fixed this game now in a patch but this time for real So I'm gonna preemptively start watching it
>>2463366Just go play bannerlord gaylordLeave total war for the total war chadsAnd one of the best aspect of rome 1 its building up your city and seeing the civilizans walking around in it
>>2463332Every TW after Rome 2 has that problem, autoresolve insidiously forces itself on the player because it's so strong and manual battles are too tediousThere's no point in playing this dogshit franchise anymore
>>2463389>gay means happy >Chad is a nigger country CA-cuck lose again.Also, Bannerlord has no open-world, you still have the retarded campaign-battle map division.
>>2459483Still beats your enemys general suiciding and causing a mass riot at the start of every battle.
>>2463307>>2463332You know I could just as well swnd you a video of the spiffing brit exploiting the hell out of m2 mechanics to prove that m2 players just want to use exploits.
I recently replayed r1 and it was rather painful.I played attila which was okay.Looks like r2 has a lot of mods and CA is planning to remake some aspects of the base game so it feels like a good point to finally try it.Apart from the schizo op sperging out that it doesn't run on his turd world potato pc, are there any legit problems with the game?
>>2459483I am going to say it, rome II really wasn't bad besides the general locked armies and the replenishment.Its actually pretty good otherwise.>>2460057This is legit, this guy knows the real issue is that things are tedious but you are given the tools to just skip the whole game.
>>2459497lmao the gate bug started with empire and continues to this day. CA are FAGGOTS
>>2473206>I recently replayed r1 and it was rather painful.play with REX
>>2473206>Apart from the schizo op sperging out that it doesn't run on his turd world potato pc, are there any legit problems with the game?Yes. It is BORING. Just dreadfully boring without a hint of flavour. This is the first Total War to feel like all battles are two health bars mashing into each other until the bigger one wins.
>>2477914R2 has the semblence of troops are doing something hut i agree that its HP balls beating each other up.
I liked it more than 1, its alot nore historically accurate
>>2459483And just wait for the update. They are going to break all of the mods.
>>2459503Fucking asterix and obelix looking village
God I forgot how fucking bad rome 2 is LIKE WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK.>pay 3100>get 20 more wealth per turn>also get -3 public orderOH WOW only 155 turns to pay for itself and -3 public order on top.
What else am i supposed to play? Roke 1 is a childs idea of the ancient world, and the game cant do the scale of 2. Hopefully we get rome 3 after med 3
>>2459483I forgot how ugly the unit cards are.
>>2486658Go play Empire Total War. Shoot at your choice of europeans or sail to India and colonize.
>>2487523empire is the most broken tw in the entire series. nothing in that game works as intended>enemy arty can shoot without cannons>enemy can phase through closed gates>battles count as defeat even if you kill the entire enemy army>if the ai demands money and you decline they double the amount they ask for the next turnand lots more
>>2486100Public Order quickly becomes totally irrelevant however. There are so many technologies, ressorces and family member traits that give global public order bonuses that you can put taxes to maximum and get by without any public order buildings.
I would hate it slightly less if the hoplites didn't look like complete shit.
>>2487504OP here, ironically, unit cards is one of the few things I like about this game, Idk why but its minimalism looks good for me.>>2487830I would hate it slightly less if the punics have cool military drip (like IRL) and their helmets were not a fucking joke, and also if the non-mediterranean cities and """nomal camps""" looks good and not like overcrowded mud-shitholes that bug your units moves (this happens in the mediterranean cities too, but at least their "white marble" vibes make them less ugly).Idk who was / were the retard/s that designed the cities, both in campaign and battle maps, but he / them should be ban from game-design forever.
>>2487829even without the negative public order its still a complete joke of a building like many others. The bonus is so tiny its trash
>>2459502Scythians are awesome and weren’t pure nomads. They indeed had settlements all around Ukraine and the Black Sea
>>2486100Thats a food building you absolute retard its literally the colour of the building slot
>>2488569>food building upgrade tree doesn't give more foodIts a shit building tree anon stop being a retarded faggot.
>>2488574I just look it up they provide horse regiments for the celts
>>2487812Its fun with darthmod, just like napoleon and shogun
>>2488574Part of that is because all the barbarian factions share the same basic buildings (excluding temples) and other barbarian factions unlock new units from the higher tier horse pens.
>>2488619all those issues exist even with darthmod
>>2488689Didnt say they didn't
>>2488690fair
>>2459483I too hate Rome 2, killed historical total war for me
>>2481547Good, because DEI is the most overrated and boring mod I ever play and it deserves to be grounded and humbled.I can't stand how people simp so fuckkng hard for a mod that just makes already boring campaigns in something even more slow and tedious because "muh deep", when not fix nor improves the gameplay, aka still not fun to play.
>>2489184They didn't even fix hoplites.
hmm game still sucks after mars patch.
For me it's how slow it is. It takes forever to get through all the AI turns
>>2489623It's faster than EB2 on my machine.
>>2489184>I can't stand how people simp so fuckkng hard for a mod that just makes already boring campaigns in something even more slow and tedious because "muh deep", when not fix nor improves the gameplay, aka still not fun to play.Based, I fucking loved Europa Barbarorum
>>2489237Theres an official submod for thathttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1850549179
>>2490238>you need a submod for a mod that don't fix shit for an unfinished bugged 13 yo 60€ game"""Strategy""" whales don't get enough hate.
>>2490238>it's still underhand>spears still clip through the soldiers in the rear ranksThat's not a fix.
>beta combat rework hits>first patch in ages and ages>literally 0 change in player count>literally no one talking about itThese pantheon updates aren't looking so good.
>>2494894From what I heard it fuckes up range combat and cav, so nothing new under CA
>>2497636How'd it fuck it up? Everything sucked so bad before it is kinda hard to tell.
Was pondering a few of the common Total War issues and want to pitch an idea>Problem: auto-replenishment sucksIn addition to going against the concept of a strategy game by negating the need to concern yourself with your logistics, the end result is often perpetual doomstacks>Problem: Manual replenishment can be a tedious affairWhile better than magically regenerating Spartans or Elephants, having to send individual units back to cities where they can replenish can require substantially more effort than the end result provides, compared to simply recruiting fresh stacks to send forward.>Problem: early game units (such as Hastati) are often entirely obsoleted by their T2 counterparts (Principes)From a historical perspective this is frustrating and results in more homogeneous armies as outside of edge cases there is rarely a good reason to recruit T1 units over T2.>Proposal: Give T1 units self-replenishment capabilities, while higher tier units must still be replenished manuallyAlong with being plausible, this would encourage more historical tactics in throwing T1 units into historically accurate frontal roles. You'd likely see more unit diversity since having a core of basic units backed up by elites would give more flexibility, compared to the brittle nature of an all-elite army.
