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>2026
>Grand Campaign / Imperator Augustus campaign are still shit
>Carthage (GC) is even more shit
>graphics look terrible, even if you have a good PC and HD mods
>only 4 interesting factions of ALL that exist and consoom your life time by the endless turn passes (Roma, Baktria, Makedon, Massilia)
>boring ugly barbarians (non-grecorromans, even the punics)
>cities with no walls, awful province design, distribution and extension
>cities changed according to "culture" into marbleholes or (lit) shitholes
>both, campaing and battle, movements still are bugged or just don't work at all
>lit. same battle maps, all battles feel repetitive
>"Groundhog Day" with tech trees, buildings and "rpg" (useless, boring, unneccesary, time-wasting... family tree, politics, character skills, etc.)
What was the point of creating this game?
Why didn't they do a Rome Remaster Plus?
What is the point that a Rome Remastered if R2 still unfinished and bugged, and R1 still playable (with good graphic and overhaul mods) IN 2026?
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Even overhaul mods like 'Bronze Age' still are bugged, boring af and also ugly, and for some reason the female members of your white/ish family are blacks.
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You can't get rid of the blacks even in the Dark Ages mod ('Medieval 1100 AD').
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Nothing matters, nothing happens, there's only boredom.
>major % culturechanges
>YOUR culture is the dominant
>the rebels are the former faction that is NOT from your culture
>instrad of being part of YOURS
What is the point? "Schizo-larp" only in your head?
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>family tree free update
>trying to be a Paradox-like to get new consoomers
>it's even worse than CK2
>you can't do nothing
Again, more useless boring timewasteslop.
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Talking again about the "culture" crap, other factions that belong to YOUR SAME cultural group have "cultural aversion" for some unknown reason (it's not explained).
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Ofc, there is a random (((merchant tribe))) in your empire for some unknown reason despite not having territories in the Levant, and somehow they get free provinces that YOU, not them, conquered.
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At least the representation of the (((tribe))) is accurate, but, AGAIN, there are no real consequences in the gameplay, in the evolution of the campaign.
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>Carthage conquered Roma, the Eternal City
>its battle map is downgraded to just another random "marble_city"
>because the "culture changed" and the building placement was "adapted" to the new owner
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Walls still are bugged IN 2026, you can't have proper deployment nor combat.
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Also, doors still are bugged. If an enemy unit pass closer to their doors, they are opened for them, but you can NOT pass for some unknown reason.
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>useless ugly nomadic factions exist in game
>consoom time and resources, both, in game and your PC
>this factions and part of the map should be removed and focus in what matters ('Mare Nostrum')
>they have settlements, aka shitholes
>they are NOMADS
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>celtics turn the beautiful clean hellenic Massilia into this shithole
>somebody in CA headquarters, back in 2010 (?), thought it was a cool idea
>forget that celtics can own marble mines, so they could upgrade their shitholes into actual proper cities (this is too ultra-high-IQ for CA)
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Also, celtic females are brown, even in Jutland, why? Idk.
This could explain why they live in shitholes and turn cities into shitholes.
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Another awful thing, the names of the armies
>picrel, "The Terror of Phobos"
>aka, "The Deimos of Fear"
Who scripted this shit? Not even the names make sense nor are cool. NOT EVEN THAT.
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More Paradox-like useless bugged slop, the events, the SPAM of events (the worst thing is the sound of the spam).
The event of picrel is bugged because the city was secured and prosperous, there was no enemy there, not even in the near provinces.
Last time I checked, there was NO mod to avoid them. This game is one of the worst I played, it literally has no redemption, CA will just find another way to make it even worst, somehow.
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Blessed thread
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>>2459543
Thanks, anon. Be blessed by Th'Olympians.
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>>2459483
Yeah fuck Rome 2 and fuck CA. Whoever pays for their games after that clusterfuck is a fucking retard
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I liked it
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rome II was the start of modern TW and the downfall of the franchise.

> unplayable buggy mess on launch
>start of DLC whoring
>start of the whole armies must have a general and units are recruited to him directly instead supposedly to fix an exploit in a single player game.
>start of the whole major.minor settlement garbage
>way too quick battles favoring the adhd zomer gamer
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>>2459585
gay.
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>>2459610
The battles are more fluid and fair than old total war
The technologies and evolution of units are good at least for rome the faction i played
Sieges are stale and bad but its better than old rome tw good luck fighting chariots in a siege in the original
Now for the random black people thats a you problem i never had a celtic black queen on my game

The only true bad part about this game are naval batlles its just broken
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>>2459617
>more fluid
No
>fair
No
>sieges
Not true sieges in the older games were far better.
>conclusion
You are gay
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>>2459483
Ah yes, Total War autoresolve.
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>>2459494
Up your graphics. This looks shit.
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>>2459599
>>start of DLC whoring
I think you can blame that on Empire (2009).

>>start of the whole major-minor settlement garbage
Again, settlements have been garbage since Empire:
>campaign map, big cities
>battle map, empty fort with bugged walls
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Rent free?
Rent free...
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Was Rome 2 the epitome of piss filter in modern games?
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>>2459849
Rome 2 had no piss filter
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>>2459850
Why lie? The piss filter was one of the original complaints about it.
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>>2459853
Neither of thease is vamilla rome 2
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>>2459483
Nah, half of the stuff you are complaining about is fine.
Tired of this bitching...
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OP doesn't even mention the biggest issue with Rome 2 (and all other games based on Rome 2's engine like the Warhammer games); The complete and total assassination of any semblance of strategic gameplay through a combination of:
>High replenishment
>Replenishment over end turn
>Recruit while moving
>Lenient auto-resolve
>Absurdly high morale and Army losses mechanic making every battle a stat-check because morale shock is rendered completely useless.
In these games you just auto-resolve everything to death and every manual battle you have to take is gonna be only after exhausting every possibility and jumping through every hoop to hopefully turn it into an auto-resolve instead.
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I just remember quitting after the realizing every enemy army was mostly skirmishers
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>>2459850
lfmao
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>>2460057
I didn't post them because many already have talked about them (greentext). But I didn't see many people talking about what I wrote.

>>2459853
THIS.

Imagine if CA unified both maps, campaign and battle, so in real time (fuck turns) you move your armies and build cities around the ancient world, see how your citizens and soldiers live and die. The mouse wheel would be used to zoom the map in and out.
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>>2459483
>>cities with no walls, awful province design, distribution and extension
are there really people who miss the rome1 and med2 endless siege battles (who you always won because the AI just walked head first into the V formation you put at the gate)
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>>2460403
Well, the point of this franchise is the combats. Also, even in those games it gets a little tiredsome, there is fun, unlike in modern games with their endless micromanagement in both battle and campaign maps.
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I'm playing the Seleucid campaign and while expanding my empire, I figured out too late (around turn 25) that I had to manually wed family members to begin a family and create offspring.
Out of 7 members (youngest being 38), only 2 had children, 1 died in childhood.
I now have 1 girl of 15 years old, left, carrying the future of a dynasty.
Can I still recover from my mistake or is the family doomed?
Could I increase my chances to have the girl have at least 3-4 children?
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>>2460057
>Recruit while moving
what is the deal with this?
I hate having to consider loss of movement as before building my army
I remember from Rome 1, my elephants could break down gates in smaller settlements, It appears It doesn't work for R2 anymore, can anyone confirm?
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>>2460830
Removing walls doesn't remove combat. You still have to fight the garrison.
>Micromanagement
I am pretty sure R1 and M2 had a lot more micromanagement on the campaign map due to how buildings worked.
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>>2460057
>>Absurdly high morale and Army losses mechanic making every battle a stat-check because morale shock is rendered completely useless.
I translate this as Generals not being gods on horses in Rome 2
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>>2461146
I think you can adopt other family members if you really need to
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>>2461151
>what is the deal with this?
It just removes a strategic layer. You fight a battle while you're headed to an enemy settlement, you replenish automatically and not only do you replenish you recruit (several units) on top of that. The result is that armies don't behave like armies. What you see on the map might be 25%-50% stronger next turn despite no settlement being nearby and for the player -choosing whether to press on with the army you have or wait for reinforcements is no longer necessary because you can have your cake and eat it too.
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>>2461166
>You still have to fight the garrison.
It is the same map over and over again, it's shit.

>R1 and M2 had a lot more micromanagement on the campaign map due to how buildings worked.
In those games you can build whatever you want, just wait the turns, meanwhile in R2 (since Empire) you are castrated to a limited number of building slots, which become repetitive.

If I wanted to build things, I would play a city-builder, but last time I checked TW wasn't a city-builder franchise (yet). I want to fight massive armies, and see cities burn and fall under me.
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>>2461815
Just auto-resolve against the garrison.
Hell if you stack all buildings that improve units in the same region + 3 dignitaries for the 9 chevrons then you get unit with such bloated stats that you can win auto-resolves against 3 full armies with only one while taking minor losses that are fully refilled next turn.
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>>2462188
>nice digits
Thanks anon, I know that. But I think you mistake the conclusion of my post, my point is the key of this game is the massive combats, if you must auto-resolve due to how boring and tedious combats are, what is the point of this kind of games?

I played 'King Arthur: The Role-Playing Wargame', literally a Total War in all except the name, it was made by an actual INDIE studio, NeocoreGames.
I never autoresolved, all combats were fun (despite it didn't have dismemberments nor blood like nuTWs) to play and I had actual RPG mechanics (this game was made in 2009 and absolutely mogs the Warhammer trilogy).
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>>2461815
>It is the same map over and over again, it's shit.
that's true for R1 and M2 maps too, they just got walls.


>In those games you can build whatever you want, just wait the turns, meanwhile in R2 (since Empire) you are castrated to a limited number of building slots, which become repetitive.
How does a limited number of building slots make it more repetive or into a city builder?

I think you're just letting nostalgia blind you anon.
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>>2460057
>>Lenient auto-resolve
Why would this be a problem unless need everyone to play these games the same way you do.
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>>2462919
>Why would this be a problem unless need everyone to play these games the same way you do.
The problem lies in the fact that the auto-resolve does a better job than you do. In the older total wars it's the opposite.
>Tough battle I better auto-resolve (and losses don't matter because i'll replenish over the end-turn anyway)
vs
>Tough battle I better fight it out and do my best because I don't want to lose my Cretan archers among other things
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>>2462959
That¨s not my experience so agree to disagree.
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>>2462959
Auto resolve its useless if you're playing on legendary,you need to lower your casualty and kill the enemy quickly if you want to win otherwise you're going to face multiple stacks at the same time
Now you can cheese your army composition to make the most of auto resolve but thats just cheesing like building an army of only generals in rome 1
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>>2463291
Fine I'll check some Rome 2 legendary playthrough on youtube for research because I'm not gonna reinstall this dogshit game.
>First guy
"I'm gonna try to do more manual battles"
great start but not gonna give an accurate representation if he's going out of his way to do more manual than is normal. I'll watch Legend because I can trust that his autism will prevent him from fighting a manual battle if an auto is gonna yield a better result.
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>>2462961
>>2463291
>>2463307
So I watched Legend play but I lost count after 12 autos and 0 manuals. I think I'm done here. He also said something along the lines of "Auto is gonna be better because I won't be able to kill them all manually".
Everything I've heard and seen and played of this game points in the direction of it being an auto-resolve-fest until this thread where there are 2 anons who claim otherwise so something's gotta give.
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>>2463332
>>2463307
>play game on easy mode
>waaahhh this game its too easy i only need to auto resolve to win it
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>>2463349
It was on Legendary
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>>2463354
Post the video here
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How good auto-resolve is depends greatly on army composition too. Elephants are absolute trash in auto-resolve for example.
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>>2463361
Archers and missile units are op in normal battle
But in auto resolve they are useless
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>>2462778
>How does a limited number of building slots make it more repetive or into a city builder?
Because you waste time thinking in what you need to build, while if it's unlimited, you can build whatever you want and not think too much of it.
But, if I'm being honest, I would love if the building stuff was removed and just focus in the battle stuff. Unless, the campaign and battle maps end up being fused in one, so the game becomes an actual city/empire-builder open-world with massive battles (imagine if they added first/third person combat too like in Mount&Blade), now that would be an actual innovation/revolution in this subgenre.
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>>2463358
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BVxIJ-7wKc
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>>2463358
>>2463380
I just found out he had a more recent playthrough uploaded because I predict your response from a mile away
>That was years ago they totally fixed this game now in a patch but this time for real
So I'm gonna preemptively start watching it
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>>2463366
Just go play bannerlord gaylord
Leave total war for the total war chads
And one of the best aspect of rome 1 its building up your city and seeing the civilizans walking around in it
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>>2463332
Every TW after Rome 2 has that problem, autoresolve insidiously forces itself on the player because it's so strong and manual battles are too tedious
There's no point in playing this dogshit franchise anymore
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>>2463389
>gay means happy
>Chad is a nigger country
CA-cuck lose again.

Also, Bannerlord has no open-world, you still have the retarded campaign-battle map division.
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>>2459483
Still beats your enemys general suiciding and causing a mass riot at the start of every battle.
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>>2463307
>>2463332
You know I could just as well swnd you a video of the spiffing brit exploiting the hell out of m2 mechanics to prove that m2 players just want to use exploits.
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I recently replayed r1 and it was rather painful.
I played attila which was okay.
Looks like r2 has a lot of mods and CA is planning to remake some aspects of the base game so it feels like a good point to finally try it.
Apart from the schizo op sperging out that it doesn't run on his turd world potato pc, are there any legit problems with the game?
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>>2459483
I am going to say it, rome II really wasn't bad besides the general locked armies and the replenishment.

Its actually pretty good otherwise.

>>2460057
This is legit, this guy knows the real issue is that things are tedious but you are given the tools to just skip the whole game.
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>>2459497
lmao the gate bug started with empire and continues to this day. CA are FAGGOTS
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>>2473206
>I recently replayed r1 and it was rather painful.
play with REX
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>>2473206
>Apart from the schizo op sperging out that it doesn't run on his turd world potato pc, are there any legit problems with the game?
Yes. It is BORING. Just dreadfully boring without a hint of flavour. This is the first Total War to feel like all battles are two health bars mashing into each other until the bigger one wins.
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>>2477914
R2 has the semblence of troops are doing something hut i agree that its HP balls beating each other up.



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