new vikings DLC splitniggers BTFO'dhttps://www.ageofempires.com/news/celebrating-age-in-2026-where-were-at-and-where-were-going/prev: >>2428386
>new civslopFUCK OFF
>no Chronicles 3 everRomebros...
>>2459676Found the single Sneeders & Chucked fan
I wish it was just a 2 Civ DLC with Saxons and Danes. Rename Vikings to Norwegians and move on. I’m so tired of regional units
>>2459680I played the mod versions and they were shit so I never touched that DLC. Never bought a Chronicles and haven't given these retards a single dollar as of 3K
>>2459677They should definitely get it alongside a bunch of other europeans in place of cavalry archers.That unit has always been weird for a ton of civs.Really wish this DLC fixes the architecture sets of old civs though>Bohemians should use Central Europe set>Persians should use Central Asian set>Byz, Bulgarians, Armenians and Georgians desperately need their own set>Same for all the Chinese and adjacent civs
>before staking everything on England’s shoresHadrada shows up, wins a minor skirmish then is immediately ambushed and killedhonestly they should end the story with him being king of norway instead of his pathetic failed attempt at seizing England
>>2459696>Hadrada shows up, wins a minor skirmish then is immediately ambushed and killedAnd Lautaro got his ass handed in a platter before he could ever set foot in Santiago, that didn't stop FE from writing a cringe fanfic.
JeJ
>>2459699that's what I'm afraid of, that they'll turn history into lame and retarded viking wish fulfilment fantasysome of the best most memorable campaigns have tragic endings, Joan of Arc burned at the stake, Jadwiga died in childbirth, Alexander was died grief-striken surrounded by the sycophants who would kill his family and shatter his empirebut that's what makes history compelling, people make mistakes and 30+ years of military experience won't stop you from getting shot in the throat in some random northern English bridgeit was a doomed expedition from the start and Tostig set Hardrada up for failure by overpromising how much support he could gather and how much difficulty Harold would have gathering an army and marching north, not only that even if Hardrada had somehow beaten Harold, William would have 100% raped whatever was left of his army, if they somehow turn this into "and then Harald kills Harold and the Vikings live happily ever after :D" it will definitely be disappointing
>three vikingdomsit's shit for all the same reasons but you dumbasses will eat it up
I wish they would at least rename the Vikings to Norwegians.
>>2459695>Bohemians should use Central Europe setThey should get a Catholic church but otherwise the Eastern European set fits them better.Central European set is chock-full of half-timbered buildings and that practically didn't exist in Bohemia and Moravia outside of very specific building contexts. Which is the as Poland/Hungary and the rest and a stark difference from Germany/France/England where this shit practically defines the Medieval building look.Of course it's still based more on the Baltic architecture with reddish bricks but that sort of thing is just a matter of what soil you're working with. The underlying architecture is correct for them (other than the romanticist Russian tower on the Archery Range), at least within reason as far as the obviously fairytale/romanticist medieval look of AoE2 can be considered in any way representative of shit.
>>2459673What's with the roaring women trope? It just looks fucking stupid. Women were not warriors
>FC Mounted Crossbowmenhehe u mad??
which of the new civs do you think will have hand cannons?
>>2459749danes
It's time to SPLEETo-oh god I'm SPLEEEEETING
>>2459739Women scream all the fucking time though?
>>2459673finally european content!
>>2459766til all SPLEET SPLEET motherfuckers
>>2459770>>2459771I saw that
>>2459713They already did this with the indian civs, it's already over.
at this point, being featured in a DLC is a humiliation ritual
>>2459673Now fatslob will come out of retirement and buy DE
>>2459744Will the Mounted Crossbowman be just cav archer with the stat sliders moved around or, I dunno, some sort of generic non-unique equivalent of the conquistador with the hard-hitting attack with slow reload mentioned in the page?
handcannoneer buff when?
Gastraphetoros buff when?
>>2459835When we get the United States civilization with a George Washington hero.
>>2459838What will his ability be? Lumberjacking?
>>2459838so aoe 3?
>>2459673>the Varangians are getting addedOh sweet, Ukrainian representation.
>>2459838i cant wait
>>2459771>attempt to kill spleetfag>mitosis happens
>>2459835>>2459836You two are brothers or what?
>AoE2 The Viking Sagas with Danes>AoE3 The Baltic Powers with Danes>AoE4 Raiders of the North with vikings Did Danish government slipped Microsoft a grant or something? Probably we'd see Norse pantheon dlc in AoM if it weren't already there from the base game.
>>2459934The Danish are trying to be relevant because nobody remember them honestly
>>2459673are these being added as new civs or are they replacing vikings as a split?
i spleeted
>>2459937vikings are staying
>VarangiansWere Ukrainians and Russians just swedes all along? I'm confused
vikingfags still haven't found a way to respond to this one...
>>2459798it'll be a conq that's cheaper and easier to mass and it will be the most cancer dogshit this game has ever seen
>>2459935t. Trump.
>>2459958not really a vikingfag but its just common sense that brown people are vile, disgusting and you don't want anything to do with them. Preferably you want them gone, forever. While white people are naturally designated overlords of our planet and species due to supreme intelligence and cunning.Keep in mind vikings literally discovered long distance sea and ocean travel navigation, while arabs just took a stroll to the left and grabbed whatever niggers they could find to enslave. There's simply no comparison in terms of actual effort and impact on civilization.
>>2459945I mean if they are they are going to be changed a fair bit I think if berserkers and longboats are now regional units
>>2459982>berserkersnot going to be regionallongboats, mounted crossbowmen, and varangian guards (infantry keshiks) are going to be regional
>>2460000They are getting renamed to varangian guards
>>2459979gigatrvke
>>2460006They better give Byzantine Varangian Guards as well. In fact they would fit there more than with Danes & Vikings.
All dlc's so far are either awesome or very good. Even Victors & Vanquished has top tier scenarios with a lot of funYou are all such downers. There's more european content you all wanted
>>2460042Yeah they can replace champions, since all new civs get 2 UUs now may as well start fixing old ones.
>>2460006I don't necessarily think so, it says shock infantry. Could be a new unit
>>2460054>since all new civs get 2 UUs now may as well start fixing old ones.Crusader Knights for Teuton Paladin replacement when?
>finally got all achievements >New DLC just announced The ride never ends. This is the second time now (third if you count the forgotten edition) of hitting 100% before it's gone.>>2460052>Victors & Vanquished has top tier scenariosAs free scenarios, yeah.
>>2460052Victors and Vanquished scenarios are terrible. Fillydelphia should not be a lead designer.
byzantines need varangian guards (obvious reason)britons and celts need mounted crossbowmen (border reivers)
handcannoneers need a buff (obvious reasons)
>>2460276they're getting Reivers in Age4 and you will like it
>>2460299finally, another anon making sense
Are Saxons going to replace Britons?
>>2459946The ruling class were.
>>2459979>vikings literally discovered long distance sea and ocean travel navigationPolynesians did it long before and with far fewer resources.
>>2460368Just because Civilization 5 intro said so doesn't mean it's entirely true. And it didn't impact the world at all since it was just ooga booga islanders visiting other ooga booga tribes nearby to trade and rape each other.Meanwhile vikings basically invented river warfare.
I'm so terrified they'll give the new retarded regional units to the Vikings, the units end up being OP as fuck, and then they nerf and destroy the Vikings because they refuse to admit they're retarded and revert their shitty new additions to a classic civ. It happened to Inca who had their tech tree gutted because of Champis, which already feels bad and they're not even an OG civ.
>>2460434I'm terrified they do it to the Byzantines. Byzantines are already good, they don't need a new unit.
>>2460125oooooh, problematic....
>>2460368The pacific is a much, much, much calmer ocean than the atlantic or north sea. Also significantly warmer with more abundant food opportunities.
first sotl girl here, just finished
Fuck yeah!They're adding an AoE3 style anti-building torch thrower!Wanted this thing for years. Bonus points if infantry with good ranged armor.The Saxon Heavy Infantry with a charged javelin throw is another unit I wanted. Yes, for Saxons specifically. Bayeux Tapestry, yo. It's bloody brilliant.
>>2460535I don't know if they ever fixed it but I remember the french horse niggers used to throw grenades because their melee aoe was also applied to their anti-building attack.
Can't wait for one of the new civs or units to be busted on launch so I can inflate my elo again or lose to others doing the same
>>2460360Saxons should be treated as a SPLEET of the Britons and they should also rename the Britons to the Normanspre and post 1066 England was different enough that you might as well have two different civs representing the Anglo-Saxons and Anglo-Normans
>>2460602"Sicilians" are the Normans
>>2459979you can tell this poster is indian because white racists don’t grope any further for a justification than “browns icky”
>>2460616trvke
>>2460616Jeetmaster busted!
>>2460610then Normans should be SPLEEEEEEEET between Anglo-Normans and Siculo-Normans
>>2460685yeah and add sardinians while we're at it, and catalans!
>>2460535You already had torches in AOE4.
>>2460602Britons are fine because they also include the Welsh, since they're longbowmen, too, and aren't any more relevant to deserve their own civ (that wouldn't do anything the Britons already did)
>>2459835Play as Burgundians
>>2460799don't respond to handcannonjeet, he doesn't want actual solutions, just spams the same shit every single thread on repeat, it's mental illness
Pirotechnia should replace gold cost of hand cannoneers with wood
>>2459673>originally planned AoE 3 DE DLC get canned>uproar.wav>flash forward>a new, different DLC is announced>except in this one they chose not to add a new campaign>applause.wavZoomer faggots and their ADHD quick-play multiplayer maps are the reason this industry will never regain traction.
>>2460831No one plays AoE3 for its campaigns.
>>2459979You mixed up white people and brown people, anon. White people are a parasitic plague on the planet who are responsible for almost all evil in the world. Blacks had civilization millennia before whites first decided to stop shitting in caves.
>>2460833Because the AoE3 campaign sucks
>>2460819no one has ever addressed the fact that hand cannons are an imperial only counter unit that costs gold. just saying "technically they are more resource efficient than arbs against pure infantry" doesn't reflect how they actually play out in pro games. normally if a civ has a bonus for a unit you can play around that unit. if you are vietnamese you can go skirms. if you are romans you can go infantry. if you are burgundians you are trolling if you don't go cavalier. no civ, not even ones that get them early or for free, can start a game and say "I'm going hand cannons."
>>2460833No one plays AoE3.
Frankly, as a girl who completely ignored the Latinx DLC and only bought it during the Summer Sale on Steam out of pity to round up a Steam Summer Sale Trading card, the dev team has to pull off something amazing to bring me back into AoE2. I don't think I'll ever get to playing the Latinx campaigns since everyone says they're the worst and I haven't even started the Chinese ones or finished the Roman DLC ones.
>>2460946And that's a good thing, historically it was a weapon still in its infancy. Play AOE3 instead.
>>2460833Are team games and 1v1 ladder both good?
>>2460973I would play aoe3 if I could play the original game before they added playable indians online with people. I'm pretty sure it's dead though.
>>2460990well just get out your fucking 2005 CD and kys in 2006
>>2460831None of the dlcs from the definitive edition has campaigns
So I just played AoE 3 for the first time ever...What the hell were they thinking?
>>2461002They wanted to make the best rts ever made and succeeded
aoe 3 was so ahead of its time1v1 sucksteam game of 3v3 or 4v4 is where the real shit at
>>2461002"let's make a game that's different from aoe2 but still good in in its own ways"
>>2460963>LatinxKill yourself
>>2460990shouldn't you be happy they added your people to the game!https://ageofempires.fandom.com/wiki/Indians_(Age_of_Empires_III)
>>2459673>European dlc >not focused on some third world nobodyNo way
>>2461102It's been 23 years.
So since when are Saxons vikings?
>>2460887>400 years of history available, all sorts of interesting historical scenarios to explore>completely ignore it in favour of conspiracyslop popular at the time the game was being madeThe Da Vinci Code and its consequences have been a disaster for age of empires storytelling
>>2461002My understanding is that were making another spin-off on AoM's tech and then was told to rebrand it into AoE III. One dev has been on record saying they were trying out all kinds of ideas and admitted it didn't pan out.
>>2461106since 1013 when Sweyn buckbroke them
>>2461106Okay so there were these guys called the angles, and then later they became the anglo-saxons. I wonder where those guys came from...
>>2461108>ywn play a Thirty Year War campaign>ywn play a Seven Year War campaign>ywn play a Rise and Fall of Napoleon Chronicles-style grand campaignthey dropped the ball so fucking hard man, and supposedly the editor is so finicky and complicated nobody has ever really managed to make custom campaigns or even historical battle scenarios
>>2461108So much wasted potentialIf only they had stuck to the same idea of multiple short historical campaigns
>>2461113To be fair none of those work because the game takes place by design in the New World. Given the era, the only place you can start building towns from scratch is the Americas, Europe would have to start with everything already built.
>>2461108AoE3 just went too hard on weird design choices while ignoring others. Balance is all over the place and DE's obsession with ever-granular unit splits is super offputting.
Speaking of, while I was browsing cards to make a list of civs bonuses for the new Independence Mode, I started to wonder if they'll ever make a water rework for AoE III like they did with II (and I think IV) because right now is just warship, stronger warship, strongest warship, anti-building ship for most civilizations.
>>2461441I don't know what you could do with it since that's basically how warships at the time functioned. The more cannons you had, the better.
>>2461443Skirmishers and musketeers are also just people with guns and they have a counter triangle.Aoe3 is literally known for unit countering similar looking unit
>>2461111Anglia, obviously.>But dey from Denmark!The Goths aren't called Vikings despite coming from Sweden.
>>2461557>what is Götland and who are the Geats/Gutes
>Vikings got culture civs before the Celtsc'mon man
>>2459946The Varangians were norse, and were the original settlers of Kiev and a few other settlements in what is now Russia / Ukraine, which is why there are still blond haired blue eyed people in those places, though the Slavs have long since overwhelmed their cultural presence.
>>2460360I would say no, because the Briton identity is more high medieval English, which is a blend of different Germanic tribes which includes Saxons, but is not exclusively comprised of them. The three main peoples who created England were the Angles (from which we get the term "Anglo" and the name England, and whose tongue, Anglish, became English with a vowel shift), the Jutes, from Jutland (so basically Danes by another name) and finally, the "Saxons" which was kind of a vague term the post-Roman population of Gaul and Britain applied broadly to various coastal raiders from Germany. In fact, you can think of the term "Saxon" in late Antiquity as being an early synonym for "Viking". If you spoke a Germanic language and carried out waterborne raids in the north, you were a Saxon, basically.
>>2461108The actual history of that era is difficult to portray without a lot of performative hand-wringing and apologetics, what with all the slavery and genocide / subjugation of native peoples. Also, these events are a lot more recent, and involve nations that exist today, not distant, long-dissolved empires and kingdoms. Doing conspiracy theory and fantasy shit is a safe route to avoid controversy and, more importantly, fun-ruining anticolonial screeds. They'd be screwed if they tried to deal with the "real history" because they either get accused of glorifying imperialism and colonialism or they make a boring shitty game that tries to anachronistically critique colonialism and imperialism, which people at the time thought was totally baller.
>>2461627>The actual history of that era is difficult to portrayThe hell it is, they could've just focused on European conflicts during the time period. Lord knows there were enough of them. They CHOSE to make it themed on colonialism. Don't make excuses for them having to tiptoe around a subject they shoved into the game, making it a core part of it, completely unasked for. I don't know a single person who would be sad if they removed the colonial home city shit from AoE3
>>2461432They tried to do way too much with AoE3. AoE2 felt like a refined version of AoE1, but AoE3 is a completely different game. They didn't just set it in a different era, they changed too many core mechanics.
>>2461629>They CHOSE to make it themed on colonialismIronically they did this to be more "inclusive", since it would allow them to put more colored people in the game while keeping to a coherent historical theme / tech level. These days you couldn't make a game like AoE3 without a lot of historical revisionism. Imagine every other musketeer you recruit is black or female.
>>2461106At some point they stopped calling them Saxons (maybe after they settled Britain?) and started calling them Vikings. But it was basically the same group of people engaged in the same kind of maritime raiding and adventuring.
>>2461608Exactly, Goths rolling through late roman-europe aren't and were not called Vikings, they are called Visigoths and Ostrogoths when not just called Goths.Geats and Gutes who stayed behind are called Swedes/Varangians/Rus.>>2461625>you can think of the term "Saxon" in late Antiquity as being an early synonym for "Viking". If you spoke a Germanic language and carried out waterborne raids in the north, you were a Saxon, basically.No.>>2461632>At some point they stopped calling them Saxons (maybe after they settled Britain?) and started calling them Vikings.> But it was basically the same group of people engaged in the same kind of maritime raiding and adventuring.No. Saxon was never a collective name for Germanics outside of the Saxon tribes (you know, the ones that carried saex), the Anglo-Saxons and Jutes all migrated to Britain after being invited to fight as mercenaries for local warlords.
>>2461002They started with the era shift in mind first and went "what should we change in the gameplay to make it fit?" So we got weird mechanics like shipments and no dropoff pointsNot having historical campaigns was just a bad call, could have had the cortez expedition, the american revolution and the napoleonic wars in the same game
I want to get my DotA buddy to play AoEIV Any tips to ease a zoomer into rts?
>>2461608A different tribe dumbass.
>>2461111Saxons were elbe germanics not Scandinavian.
>>2459673I only play the CD version no DLC HD slop
>>2461672Good for youWanna a medal for it?
>>2461677Nope, I don't need cheevos to play a game
>>2461679*claps*
>>2461680thank you
>>2461668You're probably better off trying to get him into Warcraft 3 first.
>>2461651>Saxon was never a collective name for Germanics outside of the Saxon tribesWeird way to agree with me but whatever, guess you have to be disagreeable even when you agree.
>DLC is not even out yet and people are already spleeting hairs and demanding more civsNever change guys. DON'T STOP SPLEETING.
Love my Armenian siege rams
>>2461493AoE3 would've been such a better game if units didn't counter each other like they do.Just flat damage and armor like AoE2 does with minimal bonus damage involved, more like AoE1.
>>2461441>>2461443the game has canoes maybe that they can capture ships or something
Who was that guy again who raged about VIPUR?
>>2461845HORSES AND EGALOS
>>2461779The Saxon tribes were from the regions around the river Elbe in northern Germany. They are not Scandinavian and the migration to Britain happened hundreds of years before the Viking age. The catch all term for the Germanic tribes that settled Britain wasn't Saxon but Angles. The Saxon tribes that stayed in northern Germany were conquored by the Franks at the start of the Viking age too so there is no reason to include them as Vikings. No idea why you think that you are correct about anything.
>>2461845divium furor
>>2461850when I was in high school we had some students visit from germany who described themselves as saxons but when I looked on a map where they said they were from it said thuringia and saxony was somewhere else.
>>2461814>like AoE1So you'd get a gunpowder equivalent of Helepolis spam? That would be hilarious. Though I really don't get this frequent complaint about 3's counters and unit stats even though they simplified them to the maximum.
>>2461969I'm not saying to make it entirely like AoE1, just the damage/armor stuff.Everyone complains about the billion % damage changes units have vs each other where nothing makes sense, villagers deal more melee damage than pikemen, gun guy counters gun guy, culverins being useless vs anything not canon, ranged cavalry suck at raiding, etcif there was nothing like that and just flat damage and armor everyone would be happier.
>>2461975>I'm not saying to make it entirely like AoE1>but I do mean to make it entirely like AoE1You know AoE2 has a billion hidden bonus damage values, counters that don't make sense, villagers that deal more damage than spearmen, and an assortment of weird vidya logic for the sake of balance? Even though it's confusing and stupid, people just suck it up and learn it as they play.And how is damage/armor supposed to be more legible than consistent percentages? In 3 when a unit has 20% melee resistance, you can easily tell that it takes only 80% damage or in other words behaves as if it had 25% extra 'melee' health, so it's straightforward to calculate what you have exactly.
>>2461670proofs?
If the Saxons' civ icon is not the Super Coom helmet I will be... just slightly letdown. Masks/Helmets/Statue heads icons are a neat deviation of shields.
Ran into the final boss of elo tanking today
>>2462015I agree and the best one is this one
>>2462159this is over 300 HOURS of literally nothing but resigning, and that's assuming he does it at exactly the minimum of 5 minutes and not a second later, and not even counting the over 2000 matches that were under 5 minuteshow utterly mindbroken do you have to be to keep doing this?
>>2461682But aoe is better
>>2462181Idk, the dude resigns from like 1800 elo down to like 1k elo,
>>2461802I see Jeetmaster post I hit upvote, simple as
>>2461615dwelling in swamps for days with only your head above water is not "culture"
>>2461615>medieval game>celtsHow embarassing!
>>2462187Of course it is, but you want to smoothen his transition, so it's better to start by familiarising him with the RTS that was responsible for DOTA.
>>2461989Percentage defense creates less interesting scenarios. Units such as the Chu Ko Nu in AoE2 are good because of the many arrows beating high pierce armor and dealing more minimum damage total. It makes it so high armor units can be dealt with in different ways other than just armor piercing or whatever.Not only that but added attack values are way easier to memorize and plan around than % multipliers to base damage.Either way the goal of what i said is to have LESS hidden values and clearer end results of unit interactions.AoE2 best units aren't even dependant on bonus damage such as crossbows and knights.
>>2462293>Chu Ko Nu in AoE2Actually a good example of hidden stat bullshit (same goes for extra arrows from buildings). You think all the arrows are the same but extra arrows have different hidden stats, and the reason rams take more damage than normal is is the hidden 0 melee damage in extras.>added attack values are way easier to memorizeEasier how? There are dozens of these bonus damage values and they vary by age while the percentages in AoE3 are consistent. And calculating damage in AoE2 is not straightforward at all, there's a whole ass formula for base damage/armor, bonus damage/armor, building damage, while AoE3 only has multipliers and resistances. In practice you don't calculate AoE2's values, if anything you only memorize how many hits each unit can tank with/without upgrades.>AoE2 best units aren't even dependant on bonus damage such as crossbows and knights.So are musketeers and cuirassiers in 3.
>>2461937Did you look at the HISTORY of the place, or was it just a "hurdurr y it sey thuringia today"?
>>2461814NahWinning by spamming 1 unit is lame
>>2462181Just have a bot do it.
I really thought this was my nigga Stefan Cel Mare for a secWe'll get there eventually Vlachbros...
How will they fix the Three Shitdoms problem?
>>2462528Same way they fix south american tribals having topless huskarls from rax.
>>2462528by adding more civs
>>2462528add more shitty civs to draw attention away from the 3 chinkdoms
Is AoE 4 any fun? Nobody seems to talk about it.
>>2462621I think it's fun.It's more alike AoE2 than something like AoE3 was, it's got some key differences that some people can't stand but I think as its own thing it's a great game.Also it's got a lot of attention to details when it comes to unit/building visuals and none of the ahistorical civs AoE2 has with the noticeable exception of Joan D'arc shooting a blunderbuss from horseback.>Nobody seems to talk about it.Most people ITT kinda snob it because they say it looks bad.
>>2462621I did play it, it's just not as good as 2as far as RTS goes it's an alright game, the base game campaigns are kind of ass and the pathfinding is genuinely atrocious but they did improve things recently I quite liked the last DLC, wish AoE2 had gone for Medieval China rather than 3Kslop >Nobody seems to talk about it.the focus of the developers seems to be on the multiplayer side of things, the new DLC won't even have any kind of story campaignso I've just accepted I'm not the target audience and have no wish to discuss it further
Danes coolSaxons OKVarangians are pointless
Norwegianbros, Swedebros... we were denied...
>>2462621I despise the artstyle and UI so much it actually takes away from my enjoyment of the game and I don't play it anymore at all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QUlUkex5QUthe goat speaks out
>>2462746Varangians are Swedes (mostly)
>>2462636>and none of the ahistorical civs AoE2 has with the noticeable exception of Joan D'arc shooting a blunderbuss from horseback.Both games are chockfull of memes and absurd inconsistencies, anon.AoE4 devs ran their mouths about just how more thorough, authentic and reliable they'd make the game compared to the older titles but in the end they went with recognisable bullshit and memes from AoE2 and poured even more on top.
>>2462812Weren't Goths swedes?
>>2462832In the same way Japanese are southeast asian.
>>2462813I meant civs in general like picts, celts, ancient china all being thrown in the mix but what bullshit and memes do you mean? The teleporting ninjas from that one japanese landmark is the only other example I can think of.
When are they adding SERBIA? It was an ACTUAL EMPIRE unlike the rest of the mudhut dwellers being added.
>>2462832Geats (southern Swedes) and Goths share origin (maybe) or are the same people (maybe)
THIS IS NOT THE GAME I ENJOY! THIS IS GIVING ME KANSER!
>>2463146Cry about it.
>>2463148I can’t see anything other than Star Wars here.Still love we got a AoE clone in Lucasart’s wide spread of licenses.
>>2463148dinosaur civ wen, I mean we got the 3 Kingdoms after all
>>2463158Unironically they could prepare a self-contained non-SW sci-fi dlc like Chronicles (in space) and it would make a fine addition. If they're bloating up the game, they might as well go all the way and create the biggest RTS ever made.
>>2463297It would be cool as fuck but it will never, ever happen. Not even a starfield crossover promotion DLC. They would sooner make access for every civ a microtransaction
How is AoM doing? Is there any DLC for it coming?
>>2463362No, since they already have Norse so they can't reuse shit there.
>>2463368They even already got an extra major god, too.
>>2463362Christianity DLC incoming>There's only 1 God to choose: Father, Son and Holy spirit (each one has different units, bonuses and age up options but they're still one God)>Age up by choosing saints>Units are converted populations (middle eastern, romans, ethiopians) and also knights, inquisitors and clergy>Gains favour by exorcising demons (killing mythical units), converting mortal units using aoe2 monks, martyrdom (losing clergy units), charity (donating resources to low-score players) and sometimes killing enemy units (via the "conversio in fine vitae" tech)>Monsters are angels and demons (hostile to everyone and you can summon them on the enemy)>Titan is the second coming: buff Jesus smacking people with the cross, when he dies he comes back 3 real life days later
>>2463385>only 1 God to choose: Father, Son and Holy spiritthe christian pantheon is so fucking gay, can't believe there's people who take this shit seriously
>>2463386But the dlc's dlc will be mormon jesus and he'll just straight up shoot people with guns it's gonna be dope.
>>2463415handcannonjeet will be happy at least
>>2463281We've already had a South American DLC.
>>2463386Is this more to your liking, rabbi?
>>2463495all abrahamics are the same shit
>>2463495It sucks that abrahamic religions are like AoE.>AoE1/KikeryOutdated and sucks ass for QoL>AoE2/ChristianityThe best>AoE3/MudslimesUtter garbage>AoM/MormonismNobody cares lil bro
>>2463500>AoE2/ChristianityThey both became dogshit once they started catering to non-Europeans.
>>2462879Well you've got stuff like the "Mangudai" which is not a real world, but at least the horsearcher it depicts is okay. Any lore/purpose/explanation is going to be bullshit, it's a meme that originated in the US Army with a random Mongolian-sounding name.Arabs (Abbasids) get obligatory camelry troops. They no longer throw scimitars at folks but that doesn't make them any less bullshit.The wonders/landmarks got rid of Austro-Hungarian cathedrals (Franks) and replaced them with German Art-Deco installations (Barbican of the Sun), Iron Age dolmens ("Mongolian" Deer Stones) and stainless steel statues (Mongol wonder). Malians employ 18th-19th century Beninese sharpshooters with American Civil War era rifles.Somewhere deep in the game's development history, they probably did set up some semblance of a unified and reasonable time-frame (1000-1500) and research but it did not last 'till launch and post-launch stuff threw a wrench in it. Hence why clearly Vienna-period Ottomans face off with late East Roman legionnaires in Age 1.
>>2463581>and stainless steel statues (Mongol wonder)The closest real life equivalent to the mongol wonder being a statue finished in 2008 will never stop bothering me. This is somehow worse than the giant tent.
>>2463505Nah, they lasted hundreds of years with SA/parts of africa converted. The real issue has been the homosexuals.
>>2463362No news. I think they are running out of myth factions.I wish they added Celts or Slavs, but that would be a reskin of the Norse. Romans would be a reskin of the Greeks (as it was IRL), I guess they might go with India or some literal who African nation, but I don't think many people will care.Maybe Babylon?
>>2463844>I wish they added Celts or Slavs, but that would be a reskin of the NorseOh no, more factions would have similar wooden European architecture. What a horror. Not like we already have China and Japan having similar architecture.
>>2459958Only a libshit redditor would think this is some sort of gotcha. It's based when my people win and it's cringe when they lose. You have no soul if you don't say the same.
Several months ago I mentioned the Vikangz spleet and nobody believed me. The next 'major' expac will feature Jap rework/spleet - Ainus, Ryukyuans/Okinawans, and Yamato (either Cavalry or Gunpowder focused, depending on your choices). Discuss.
>>2463908Emishi and Ryukyuans would actually be based. Also they could finally make a separate East Asian set for everyone except japs.
>>2463908Ainu are not organized to the level of an empire, it would be silly adding such a decentralized-Oh right, they added SA tribals, go ahead.
>AoE 3 has Teutonic Knights now
>>2463940Yeah, and according to everyone who tried them, they and their revolt sucked.
>>2463949Really now? That's too bad then
>>2463950It's basically a tougher doppelsoldner that recovers hit points even in combat and redirects damage towards himself. The problem is that Livonia is one of the new Fortress Age revolts, but unlike the Cossack Hetmanate (or the mexishit revolts), you can't age up anymore, and the unlocks/bonus don't justify being stuck in Fortress Age: instead of changing settlers, each one spawns one of the new militia units that dutch, germans and poles use (and they didn't had a card to reduce their hp drain).
>>2459958my ancestors = goodyour ancestors = bad
>>2463930The emishi were as much of a threat and annoyance to Japan's expansion northwards as much the Celts were to the English but people want 9 different spleets on those islands
>>2464080
>>2464022>my ancestorsAmericans actually believe this XD
>>2464106Why do browns not admire their ancestors?...oh, right.
>>2464138But you are brown
>>2464279No u
So what civs haven't been spleet yet?
>>2464348your anus hasn't been split yet
>>2464355doubt it
>>2464348Britons, Celts, Italians, Spanish, Franks, Slavs, Burgundians.
>>2464378>ItaliansRomans
>>2464348Holy Roman Empire
Hera did the meme strathttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jn1PEDiRlk
Which historical person would you like to see getting an AoE2 campaign (no matter how possible it is)? For me it's Basil II. I've been reading about him lately. His story does have plenty of military campaigns and interesting related characters. Beside Bulgarians you'd be fighting against Saracens, Byzantines, Georgians, Armenians and maybe Cumans representing Khanate. The more I'm annoyed the current Byzantine campaign follow a completely fictional noble family.
>>2464538A proper Oda Nobunaga campaign, would be kino from his beginnings, fighting the Imagawa clan to the Honnoji Incident.
>>2464538If we're talking about multitude of opponents>Tatars>Magyars>Turks>Poles>Slavs
>>2464538there's a fanmade Basil the Bulgar Slayer campaign that's pretty good, I've only got halfway through it though cause it's pretty brutal at least on hard difficulty
>>2464423Not nearly good enough, also silly.
>>2464539Houjou Tokimune would be better for civ variety.
vtumor charity streamhttps://www.twitch.tv/ClioAite
>>2464675second POVhttps://www.twitch.tv/bibibiscuitch
rate the civ mix
>>2464675>>2464677>calls it "vtumor">but he actually knows this is going on>meaning he probably watches these and enjoys them greatlyGET HIM
>>2464675voice too deepthat's definitely a transgender
Unpopular opinion: AOE2 was better before microsoft smelled money and started investing again.Look, I aplaud some new updates and general interest into the game. But the pumping out of new civs felt very similar to what happened to LoL after S3.It's not just the addition of new civs on its own, it's the retarded new mechanics that don't match the general feel of all the classic ones. Donkeys with carts, knights that charge up attacks for more damage... it makes a good simple game suddenly more complicated and simply ruins the authentic feel of what we were always used to. My playing time has slowly went down till a day I realized I hadn't played the game in a long time. And I had played it continuously since the early 00s.But I guess that's just me. I don't like change.
Unpopular opinion: Chronicles is peak and I wanted to see Roman Chronicles rather than Vikingslop
Popular opinion: Handcannoneer needs a buff
>>2464687>No ArmeniaWhere's Jeetmaster?
>>2464687very meta
>>246479695% of the playerbase came because of DE. Nobody was interested in playing original or even buggy ugly HD. Be thankful your overlords throw you scraps.
>>2464539Overall I would like to see Chronicles style expansion all about Japan.
>>2464817Everyone was on voobly and that doesn't change my point that there was no need for these weird mechanics entering the game
>>2464850"everyone" being like 5000 total people instead of 100,000+There wouldn't be a perpetual thread here if DE didn't exist, it would be less than aoe3 tier popularity.
>>2464856100k my ass, maybe in your dreams.Doesn't matter, still doesn't change my point that there's no need for these weird mechanics.
there's an aoe2 player called "Siscon"
>>2464928you never heard about MisterListerTheSisterFister?
>>2464928the most prominent aoe2 player of our time is named after a Greek mythological deity most known for being cucked all the time
>>2465342yeah, so was hercules, and he was a product of that cuckoldrystop posting frogs
>>2465418I shan't
>>2465422only child molesters like carthage.
>>2465342Which Greek god was the Jeetmaster? Was he the bastard son of Ares, a minor god of infantry?
>>2460125They should be the UU for a Latins civ representing crusader states and crusader orders.
>>2465656>Announce Outremer civ>Immediately shut down by Geedubs because they use the demonym "ultramarin">Get replaced by three Mondongo subsaharan tribesYou rike?
>>2465676They should be called Latins.
>>2465687What's that? Did you say latin american? *spleets the mapuche into mapuche, picunche, huilliche, pehuenche, lafkenche and puelche*
>>2464928You mean ciskhan?
>>2465656>>2465687Italians are Latins
>>2465342Viper? Isn't that just a type of snake?
>>2465985it's a game of thrones character
Is AoE4 good for a first timer to RTS?
>>2466351yeah, between AoE4 and starcraft III theres not much better for new rts players.
>>2466495holy shit
>>2466351It's a really soulless game with atrocious UI design and music. I hate the sound design too, I don't care that your dudes roar when attacking and cheer when winning. It sounds stupid and gay.AoE2:DE is the better overall experience and you get to fall in love with everything everyone else fell in love with over 25 years ago
>>2466582>soulless game with atrocious UI designWhere did it go so wrong?
>>2466600>>2466582And of course the image doesn't load...
>>2466600at Microsoft
>>2466582>>2466602unlike the older games Age4 was something mandated from above, I'm willing to bet the Medieval theme wasn't something chosen out of passion for the time period, it was just a decision from above taken because AoE2 is the most popular game in the seriessame reason why you don't see a soulful UI like the old AoE2 main menu, or devs adding their car as a playable unit in the game, if feels soulless because it's a corporate mandated game
>>2466843relic was never on the same level as ensemble or blizzard. their games have followings but they were always the killer instinct compared to street fighter and tekken.
Come home, antediluvian man
>>2466600UI/UX people happened. Enjoy your flat metro looks with the occasional diamonds. AoE IV doesn't even have civ-specific decor on it, does it?
>>2467034>Come home, antediluvian manyo, vampire the masquerade reference???
>>2467034Vgh...
>>2464378>BritonsSicilians (Normans)>ItaliansRomans>SpanishPortuguese>FranksBurgundians>SlavsVarangians
>>2467039No. That would imply people aren't equal.
>>2467034Ew, Byzantine mosque.
I'm tired of all the new civs and units and gimmicks. It's fucking illegal to just be a casul in this game. What makes me more mad is reading all the autists talking about how they can't comprehend how someone may not like AoE2 adding more and more and more shit like it's LoL characters. How "this makes the game more interesting". How "learning all the new things makes the game more fun!". It's like they can't comprehend that some AoE2 players only play like 1-2 games a week or maybe even a month, and aren't interested in keeping up with the brand new BS gimmick, sometimes not even that new. I know that by the nature of the genre RTS attracts spergs but this autistic lack of empathy to a probably decently sized demographic of the game makes me seethe. These "ADD MORE CIVS THERES TOO LITTLE ADD MORE CIVS ITS ALWAYS GOOD FOR THE GAME" morons remind me a lot of DBZ fans. What's even worse is that if we still had the civs we had around the time DE released they would 100% still perfectly enjoy the game, and so would I. This bloat only serves to make customers like ME miserable. Or is someone actually going to attempt to convince me that the 3 kingdoms DLC is the reason they came back to the game? Or that the new american civs are what keeps them playing?
>>2467505the funny thing is that less than 2% of players have beaten the new mud hut campaigns. if new civs and new single player content is so popular why aren't people playing it?
I'm willing to pay a $4.99 monthly subscription if it means going back like 4 years of updates and promise that they'll never add a new civ again.
>>2467517>less than 2% of playersyou have no idea what you're talking aboutI don't even own that DLC and have all the achievements, everybody got everything at launch because the achievement system was fuckednot only that achievements are a dogshit way to evaluate anything, according to those just over 50% even made it past the tutorial
>>2467528>just over 50% even made it past the tutorialyeah that's how it works for most games on steam. people buy them on sale and then never even install them.
>>2467528>Achievement n°3Anon, no!
>>2467545global achievements are based on people who have launched the game at least once
>>2467528so less than 2% then?
>>2467556Alexander would be a ponyfag desu
>>2467505>This bloat only serves to make customers like ME miserableYeah but if you're not interested in new content you're not really a customer anymore they already got everything they could out of you and are now making things for the people who will buy DLCs.Them's the breaks with live service games.>>2467517If it weren't selling they would have stopped making those DLCs like they did for AoE3.Achievement percentages aren't a good indicator of popularity because there's so many people who buy games and never play them.
>>2464796>>2467505chatgpt
>>2467505I kinda wish they would add something like a civ rotation for ranked or something. too many different units and civs, how am I supposed to know which units beat which if there is like 100+ of them at this point?
>>2467741By learning and enjoying world (medieval) history
>>2467741Good idea, let's rotate out all the indian, fantasy chinese and south american civs first. We can try a different rotation in 50 years.
>>2467746yeah I remember learning in school about how the britons used their horse archers to fight ethiopian crossbowmen during the 14th century.
>>2467641kill yourself
>>2467768Britons getting the new mounted crossbowmen as replacement for cav archers with the next dlc. Trust the plan.
I know it's a reddit thing to care about community events, but I can't stop thinking of the Regicide Rumble tournament finale from last week, which is a diplomacy tournament, where first place offered second place a portion of his winnings if he threw and him finish his Wonder victory after they were neck and neck with wonder construction. The timestamp is here and it goes an hour but desu it's not worth watchinghttps://www.youtube.com/live/NmfEgaVSkS4?&t=14037The tournament logic at the time was "Well any diplomacy is allowed and let's be honest there's no way that they actually give that money and it was offered in the form of second place and sniping third place's king", literally "I pay you to delete your wonder but you get easy money". Isn't this just rigging? I know these events aren't supposed to be serious but didn't first place just win hundreds of dollars by just bribing second place to take easy money? They were by far not the best players in this tournament, doubly so when first and second seemingly swap between two players who begin actively colluding and discussing real money being exchanged.
>>2467505If you're only playing once or twice a week or month, why even care about knowing every single civ?
>>2468036>Isn't this just rigging?FFA rules are FFA rules. This format was never fair and that's by design
>>2459673I don't like this DLC, I don't understand why they insist on adding ahistorical slop into this game, the game already has enough.It's probably because they have more Indians working at the studio now than white men.>mounted crossbowmenyes sarrr very good much makes sense sarr good gameplay mechanic sarr>varangiansWould only make sense as a unit for the byzantines.Why not make a special kind of housecarl instead?Because they want to have the gameplay mechanic of generating gold during melee? Fuck I can just see the pajeet thought processes in all of this.
Found the problem
this page 136 of the Talhoffer Fechtbuch, a German fencing manual created by Hans Talhoffer in 1467 for Graf Eberhardt von WürttembergIn his section on mounted fencing Master Talhoffer explains how to best employ the crossbow while mounted, including a section on how to shoot it backwards while gaining distance from pursuing attackers.
as Hans Talhoffer illustrated you can fire a crossbow one-handed over your shoulder, though it is not an easy technique
but it sure beats attempting to engage enemies in melee whilst armed with a ranged weapon. It would not end well for you!
>>2468307Which one are you? >>2468305I'm guessing the troon bottom left
>>2468310>TROON TROON TROON TROON TROON TROON TROON TROON TROON TROON TROON TROON TROON TROON TROON TROON TROON TROON TROON TROON TROON TROON TROON TROON TROON TROON TROON TROON TROON
>>2468311stop avatar posting, final warning.
>>2468317here's a 16th century French mounted crossbowman ("cranequinier")suck on it
even the horse is outraged of the francish man's arrogance
>>2468305I hate cysion so goddamn much, that lying rat
I can't wait for every European civ to become an off-brand cavalry archer civ overnight.
>>2468329An arrow is sticking out of his head. A skullbow?
>Britons>Burgundians>Celts>Franks>Goths>Italians>Portuguese>Romans>Sicilians>Spanish>Teutons >Vikingsshould have their cav archers replaced with cav crossbows
Britons should get Cobra cars as a unique siege workshop unit (replaces scorpion) because Shelby Cobras are English cars and 1962 is closer to the core timeframe of the game than the 3 chinkdoms
How do you eben reload the crossbow while mounted, seems like a hassle
>>2468389When you have a spanning mechanism so advanced and gentle that anyone could do it.
>>2468389Cranequin
>>2468393>>2468394Dank, always thought it was kindof one and done. Maybe viking dlc will be the first dlc I actually buy
>>2468291Because 50% of every match is your opponent's civ.
>>2466351It's fine. I think the voices and music are great and the pathfinding is nice, but it was basically unpatched for its first year of release, even when there were obvious game-breaking balance issues (french on water maps, spearmen not doing any-cavalry damage). Unit animations are awkward and the color scheme is painful. The most egregious problems are that there are essentially 3 versions of the game:1. Campaign - Uses old unit balancing and tech trees. Things just behave weirdly. Enemy AI doesn't exist and it's all fake scripted events.2. Single player v ai - AI is borderline retarded3. Multiplayer - nonstop sweats with cheese strats for days or chinese who just blatantly map-hack
Do you think longboats will be packable to move them across land? Or will the packed longboat just be a scenario editor thing
>>2468441>I want to play the game once a week and also stay up to date with meta across all 150 civsNo anon, you either invest the time and energy to get good, or you don't get to be good at all. You don't get to eat your cake and have it too, fatass.
>>2468762>Do you think longboats will be packable to move them across land?noI imagine that'd be a nightmare to get working properly, you'd have to change the pack/unpacking code so the unit can only pack/unpack at a coast tile and then after pack/unpacking it must also teleport a tile over to the land/waterI assume the packed longboat is a scenario thing, like a unit you have to escort across hostile terrain to reach another river and sail awayI still think devs should give longships the ability to transport units since that was their main role, but I doubt they'll do that because it would upset the balance autists who never play water maps
>>2468920It's not about "meta", it's legitimately not knowing wtf you're even facing. You literally proved my point, you're not allowed to be a casul in this game. The units used to be pretty intuitive but they keep adding meme gimmicky units and at a faster pace. Even Liereyy didn't want to fucking bother with the south american non-civs. A literal pro can't be fucking bothered.
>>2469062>You literally proved my point, you're not allowed to be a casul in this game.That is 100% correct, you are not allowed to be a casual while playing competitive modes. If you are a casual then you shouldn't care about winning or meta. Make up your mind. You can't be both casual and buttmad about losing.
>Viper is bald nowWhat the fuck when did this happen?
>>2469095we all have to deal with it eventually anon
>>2469088qp is dead and community lobbies run meme setups like 8player free-for-all, and they both still play the shit cashgrab civs anyway so wtf am i supposed to play? and for the record I dont lose everygame against these civs, i hate playing against them even when i win
Is this playable for the Portuguese? They seem to be hurting for space.
>>2469119take water and invade south america as soon as possible
>>2466351The gameplay is fine and the attention to detail with the voice lines is neat but outside of that I've never seen a game with a more soulless art direction. The DLC model also makes no sense.
Fuck, I'm having f*n with the AOE3 campaign.
>>2467505Yeah, I just can't be bothered with all those glup shitto civs. It's just pure bloat. No, I will not play some south american shitters whose sole claim to fame is they only died out in the 1800s, way past the games timeframe.
every level in the DLC will be handcrafted by Filthydelphia and the storyline is going to end with Harald Hardrada, proud servant of Odin, killing the English king with the Blood Eagle and conquering england, his warriors in their horned helmets cheering and drinking mead while shouting "to Valhalla!"credits roll
>>2469391>handcrafted by Filthydelphiawow I can't wait to have to capture trade workshops and garrison them with merchants (trained at markets after winning in the chess minigame against the hanseatic traders) to gain 5 pop space and a 3f/3w trickle each minute (you are unable to train extra villagers)
>>2459673How come jannies ban me for racism here all the time but this OP has been going for half a month with "nigger" on the forefront and nothing happened. I got banned for a lot milder language tooAnyways, buff handcannoneer
>>2469104>qp is dead and community lobbies run meme setups like 8player free-for-allalso known as the casual gamemodes which should suit you if you're a casual as you claim>and they both still play the shit cashgrab civs anyway so wtf am i supposed to play? if you are a casual then it shouldn't bother you>and for the record I dont lose everygame against these civs, i hate playing against them even when i winthen your problem has nothing to do with the game being casual or sweaty. The only way for you to stop playing against new meme civs is to play custom lobbies where people pick other civs or play against AI and set the AI to other civs. There is no other way. Change sucks.
>>2469372The first one?
>>2469473The word nigger isn't what gets you banned, the context you use it in is.>>2469529Yeah, I don't really care it's a fictional story, it's kinda like an interactive movie, and I also like spamming big boats. (Also the dumbed down econ micro is better suited for my casual ass.)
>>2469372I'll replay it once the big update drops, the one with the changes from the open beta. It's supposed to have a new difficulty setting for the campaign, changes in the scenarios, and a lot of tweaks for the AI in campaign and skirmish. Pretty heavy on singleplayer improvements, huh.
>>2469553one time I got banned because I posted in /ck/ that I liked chik fila better than popeyes because black people don't touch your food there. "black people" not even the nigger word. it's all just a matter of which janny spots your post and whether he has taken his meds recently.
>>2463908Was expecting sengoku japan clan spleet
>>2469471At least they'll only take 3 hours to complete, with 8 other sidequests in every level.Went back and played Atilla the other day. Feels so good and straightforward.
Can you set up triggers in the scenario editor that check whether a player has picked a specific civ?
Recommended Jin builds? I paid for this expansion I should finally fucking use them
>Slavs still not broken up into Serbia, Croatia, Kievan Rus, and Novgorod
>>2470544trvke, but it will never happen during current conflict.
>>2470359>Jin DLC>*looks inside*>you actually play the Song in the campaign
>>2459739The bottom left is a retarded example, because the woman in question is a literal, unironic schizophrenic going through manic hallucinations.
>>2470825>because the woman in question is a literal, unironic schizophrenic going through manic hallucinations.which woman isn't lmao
>>2464546>>2464538>>2464539Stefan Batory.First you play as Transylvania and fight against:>Turks>Hungary>Holy Roman Empire (Teutons)Then you play as Poland and fight against:>Poland (Gdańsk Rebellion)>The Austrian Empire (Teutons)>Russia (Slavs)>Crimean Khagnate (Mongols)
>check Hera's YTshorts' tab>30% of clips are quickwallslop
isn't this the most thriving and popular RTS? why the fuck is the general more dead than others?
>>2472436Because 4chan is dying and posting here fucking sucks?
>>2459673Did these threads ever have a rentry with game specific resources? I just started playing AOE2 after playing it casually with friends like 7 years ago and got my ass handled more than I expected.
>>2472436All of the skilled players migrated to Discord.
>>24724362 is a 'perfect' game competitive players refuses to let it go/die, 4 is the one Microsoft wants said players to play as esports, and III is the red-headed step middle-child that, granted, had a miracle DLC resurrection but competitive players overall don't and will never like it. AoM is just kinda there.tldr: FUCK COMPETITIVE PLAYERS AND FUCK ESPORTS! This is a problem for all modern RTS, can't have FUN nowadays...
>>2472436It's a bad idea to treat these threads like a general in the first place, because that invites necrobumping and inane posts. Let people post about the games when they have something to post about.>>2472453Nah, nothing like that here.
>>2472555Good, let them stay there. Fucking attention whores who need a username tied to their posts.
>>2472627That's awesome, but this general is now filled with only people who don't really engage or contribute exclusively to 4chan. That's why this general is dead. It has nothing to offer.
>>2464378>>2464348Slavs are the big ones. Sooner or later they'll make proper Russian and Kievan Rus civilizations.
>>2472627>>2472658Ghostmaster got chased away for posting screenshots of the game (sacrilege)Handcannoneer anon got chased away for posting his deepest wishes (buffs)Questions anons got chased away from trying to talk about the game (another sacrilege)That artist who draws units as girls hasn't posted in a while so there's literally nothing happening until the DLC is out.
>>2472821>Handcannoneer anon got chased awayNo, he's still here.
>>2472821handcannonfag doesn't play the game
>>2472821Jeetmaster is currently dealing with border disputes in the Kashmir region, give him a break he's doing the needful.
how the fuck is this supposed to be balanced? what the fuck is wrong with this matchmaking algo
>>2472821>for posting screenshots of the gameno, we insulted him for being an attention whore, making sure we see your nametag in ever screenshot is akin to tripfagging
>>2472947gigud
>>2472436the Harald Hardrada campaign isn't out yet, no reason to post until then
I finished the Wrath of the Regent mission with one market left to spare.
>>2473049couldn't be me son
>>2472947Elo systems don't really work for team games
>>2473049You have to cheese the Spartans to keep them in their base (within the first 3 minutes) and then boom and advance on your own because the city starts burning down regardless, but at least it's kinda at your own pace now
>>2472821what the fuck are you talking about, both ghostmaster und handcannonfag are still here
now that the dust has settled: did you prefer battle for greece or alexander the great?
>>2473313I haven't bought any DLC since Armenians and Georgians
>>2473313Battle for Greece was most fun overall because of the variety. Pericless mission was great.but Alexander had the better overall missions and setpieces, can't forget the bullshit you go through after persia. Just wish you had more missions as Thracians, they're a lot of fun.
another well balanced match brought to you by the genius matchmakingalmost a full 200 average Elo difference btw
>>2473395the 1648 guy was also a smurf who was actually 1800 btw
>>2473395How prevalent is smurfing at average and above average ELOs? I assume it's much better than 700s?
>>2473589enough to be annoying and ruin at least a game per session
>>2473729It's about every third game here
>south american spearchuckers can have their own civs>Finns(northern speachuckers) can't have their own civhow's that fair?
>>2474032finns aren't tawny
>>2462621It is fun, but has way too much e-sports faggotry and it's almost as retarded as 2 in terms of a consistent time frame and accuracy.
>>2474032>all barracks unit replaced by a single "clubman" line>elk rider as knight replacement, fast with high hp but no armor, deals area damage>castle UT "Sisu": +1/+1 armor and +10% HP to all units>imp UT "Hyperborean Legacy": unlocks orbital satellite cannons in siege workshop, all units +100% damage against Korean units
>>2474066>Misread that as "Hyborian Legacy">My autism immediately started brewing an Age of Conan modDamn it...
>>2474116Do it. I'll play it. I'd love it. There are not nearly enough Conan games, Exiles is pretty much the only good one. A great one even.
I play this game casually against CPU. I really don't have time to learn it "properly" for online play. I'm thinking of coming up with some meme dark/feudal age rush that might win once in a while. Is that still possible or have all of those strats been exhausted? I've never played online before.
>>2474066>+100% damage against Korean unitskek
>>2474218Watch some Low Elo Legends on T90's channel to see what the game looks like at low ranks. Believe me there are some barely conscious beings playing ranked and still somehow getting wins. You'll be fine, just accept that you'll lose a bunch of matches at first while the game gets you to an appropriate rating.
>>2474218Bulgarian infantry rush is pretty solid at low elo>why BulgarianAutomatic free militia line upgrades and significantly quicker blacksmith research
>>2474218one guy from the recent streamer tournament just spammed feudal maa all in with civs like romans and armenians and he got to like 1700 elo, so that's what I would recommendhttps://youtu.be/Vg2poJHCSP4
>>2474397nta, I tried this few times but I had hard time trying to micro both MAAs and my home eco right as I up, usually my units end up dying or I cause more damage to my self from idle TC and villagers than to the enemy
>>2474218I've gotten to like 1900 elo with exclusively meme strats, you don't need to play the most optimal meta strats to climb elo.
>>2474066day 1 buy
>all 5 pieces of exodia>and a kellogg nutri grain promo from 2001ish that started the whole thingThe kelloggs one is literally AoE1 without RoR which is an insane promo for a relatively newish game (it was already considered ancient by then because that's how fast that time moved).Though for me, the original AoE1 demo were my favourite campaign levels. They were just 3 solid levels.AoE1 is still king for me.AoE2 is good, but misses that antiquity feel and vibes. Always went back to it. The AoE2 version FUCKING SUCKS FIX IT. FFS.Missing campaigns, has bugs, barely functions. It already had AoE1 DE and that was already buggy (the ships went over land all the time).But for me, the original AoE1 is still king.The AoE3 games were open only twice I think. They were that shit. So disappointed. Can't believe they bothered with 3 again. AoE4 was much much better. I'm glad Mythology is finally getting some respect though. It needs a few more civs. South east asia, polynesia, africa and south america. Even Australia has cool myths. It doesn't have to be about civilisation really. Just the myths so you can kinda pretend abos weren't still living in sticks. Chronicles is kinda fucked up, but I kinda really like it too. It's just unfinished and kinda empty right now. A husk. I just wish the AoE2DE and chronicles AI was proper and could function with a proper economy. I'd like trained models actually. That would be perfect for it. >defeating your ghostCould be kino.
>>2459739Shieldmaidens disagree.But they are kinda more myth than reality. History channel went super pants on head retarded with them in Vikings. That's when I stopped watching. Sigh. It had so much potential. It needed to be more brutal and realistic to women. Medieval pagan women were treated almost like furniture. This feels like whitewashing history and is kinda ironically offensive to female struggles. And by struggles, I mean their struggle to make a decent fucking sandwich for their masters, men.
I like how cheaters on forums are complaining about new patches breaking their exploits. I take it there was a massive amount of security hardening or something? Kinda pointless (it's only a matter of time) but it did end up REALLY FUCKING up pathing in games. T90 was getting issues with crashes mid-late game too I think because of the changes. It's notoriously bugged with "turns" between players online and I think it's done something there. I can kinda see how something like that could impact pathing maybe too. Or maybe they're finally attempting to expand the unit limit past 60 and just tweaked pathing already in anticipation?Anyway, I blame nili. Because that's funny.>cheat forums were kinda shocked how good the security was, so maybe the dev is another high elo tourney player that knows exploitsHow this game still lives is beyond me.
>>2474032>abo australian huffers use the dreamtime forces to obliterate your mid renaissance european cavalryThis needs to happen.
>ywn take towns with 30 Helepolis These things shredded any strat thrown at them. So broken.Yet so fun.I didn't bother with catapults or other units. Just an army of Helepolis.I kinda feel like Scorpions should be 2-3times more powerful and faster shooting than they are in AoE2, but then every battle would become Helepolis chaos.
>>2460799nah, i typically play as bohemians>>2460825i'd cum>>2460946exactly. i try to go handcannoneers as early as possible but it typically doesnt work out very well for me lol
>>2464805>>2469473i agree on the handcannoneer needing a buff. i also keep getting banned for minor infractions.>>2472821im still here. just havent been posting as much due to bans, work, and my RTS friend has been taking most of my gaming time playing steel division 2 and playing other multiplayer games like barotrauma in my remaining time.>>2472833not as much recently.
>>2472821>Ghostmaster got chased away for posting screenshots of the game (sacrilege)I'm still here, just taking a break from AoE2On a sidenote: I was under the assumption there would be an 8vs8 update for this game, but instead we got another spleet DLC. At the very least it's a spleet I kinda dig.Having 16 players on the same lobby would make this game very fun and chaotic, like Warcraft 3 can be
>>2475108>it was already considered ancient by then because that's how fast that time movedYeah, vidya was way more breakneck compared to how things are now, of which is like if 7th gen never truly ended.>>2475229>8v8Where did you hear this? I'd love that as well, would do a lot for more grand campaigns and large scale team battles for all players, but this is first time I've heard of this. Though what colors would you even use at this point? Even AoM defaulted to repeated shades of red/green/blue.
>>2475229There are plenty of people whose comps can't handle 8, no way they could double it.
>Nothing at Gamescom™ Opening Night Live™Dead ass franchise
>>2475370trvke
>>2475108>I'm glad Mythology is finally getting some respect though. It needs a few more civsDo you play the game? I wish it were getting respect, but it seems they just let go everyone that was working on patches and left the game with pathfinding the worst it's ever been. Somehow whenever they fixed it, they managed to break it again with the next patch. Also Aztecs aren't really properly balanced, but the guy from the balance team that communicated was let go.The number of civs is good as it is though, since the differences are a lot bigger than in other aoe games and adding too much will just raise the barrier of entry to the sky.
lowkey want a HOMM mod
>>2476099I have no idea what the lore is supposed to be but I did like that game where you have a succubus wife and kick orcs a lot
>>2475370nothing during the XBOX showcase?
>>2459673https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4QMgYagpBYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4QMgYagpBYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4QMgYagpBY
>>2476177wrong thread little bro, that's just game of thrones themed dawn of war/company of heroes
>>2476178People in the closed tests compared it to BFME actually.
>>2476102Didn't watch that since it was boring as fuck.
>>2476102Nope, nothing on Day 2 either. Dead franchise.
>>2476194the preview I saw compared it to dawn of war actually
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2NVcKvCq7ghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2NVcKvCq7ghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2NVcKvCq7g
>>2476455Nice Music
>>2476455slop
https://www.ageofempires.com/news/pre-order-age-of-empires-ii-definitive-edition-the-viking-sagas/new infos on the dlc
>>2476455
>>2476548>Varangian Guards — deadly shock infantry who generate gold while fighting and excel at raiding and melee combat. Varangian Guards serve the Byzantines, Danes, Saxons, Varangians, and Vikings.>Mounted Crossbowmen — hard-hitting but slow-firing ranged soldiers who strike fear into infantry armies. Available to the Danes, Saxons, Varangians, and Vikings, as well as most European civilizations.>Longships — swift warships that combine potency and versatility. The Danes, Saxons, Varangians, and Vikings can all construct Longships.
>>2476572>serve the Byzantineslet's fucking go
>Saxons' civ icon is not the helmet*Sad Super Coom noises*
>>2476583sutton who?
>>2476585>sutton who?
>>2476548>Mounted Crossbowmen — hard-hitting but slow-firing ranged soldiers who strike fear into infantry armies. Available to the Danes, Saxons, Varangians, and Vikings, as well as most European civilizations.>as well as most European civilizations.>>2468360called it
>>2468360Disagree with Goths, Sicilians, Romans and Celts, rest should get them.
Thoughts on villager autoqueue in aom?Personally I actually kinda like it, since it just removes the mindless clicking you're gonna do 100% of the time without thinking, while you still have to do the stuff that involves actual decisions, in moving your vills around.
Will the Longship be a new unit or they are renaming the Longboat and making it regional?
>>2476739autoqueue and villager autoassign should be standard features in singleplayer RTS, it's useless filler that cuts down on your watching minotaurs headbutt soldiers into the stratosphere time
>>2476730celts makes sense to represent border reiversi agree on goths/romans/sicilians though
>>2476750>autoqueue and villager autoassign should be standard features in singleplayer RTSHow to out yourself as someone who can't defend against a drush.
>A fucking tree
it literally only takes 5 apm to queue villagers.
>>2476795The clicking part is the easy part, the remembering to click when the queue is empty is the problem many players face. There needs to be an idle TC alert.
>>2476786>on a hill
>>2476786This is worse than the tupi wonder. Did the danes never build anything?
>>2476798>There needs to be an idle TC alert.it's called look at the unit queue and see if there's a villager in it or not.
>>2476825It's easier to see something that's there than something that's not there, if you get what I mean.
>>2476803lego
>>2476786>>2476803What if it's not a wonder but just a scenario editor building?
>>2476866That's what the caption of the screencap says in the xbox store at least.
>>2476884Man, is it just because of muh fucking Yggdrasil?
So are Mounted Crossbows going to become the official "European" regional unit?
>>2476896I assume they're a cav archer replacement
>>2476692>as well as most European civilizationDank
Celt mx rush, really rolls off the tongue
MC RUSH
>>2476101They decided to use the evil end from this game to end the world and sell a bad strategy MMO game.The good end would have continued the franchise in the setting.
Do we know anything about the three new UUs?I would have assumed the Varangian guard was the UU for the Varangians. But they are not.
https://x.com/BBCBreaking/status/2093228360923058598
>>2476739retarded dogshit that massively nerfs aggression and makes the game easier for no reasonattention is a resource and making your enemy idle TC because they have to focus on micro somewhere else is a good mechanic
>>2476786This is awesome, imagine the World of Warcraft RP maps where sylvanas ends up burning it down with trebuchets
>>2476779How to out yourself as someone who lacks reading comprehension
>>2476994>BBCBreaking
>>2477060Why not just Warcraft custom maps?
>>2477090nobody plays warcraft 3 anymore
>>2476786hold on what's this
>>2477109Decoration?
>>2477109a beached whale?apperently people back then would dismantle those things for the rare meat and the blubber made excellent fuel, it would have been very profitable here's a dumb fun fact: since 1324 there has been a law in the UK where any whale that dies and washes up on shore is considered "royal fish" and property of the reigning monarch
>>2477096yes they do, if you consider wc3 dead then so is aoe2
>>2477114Do you think it could contain actual food or is it pure decoration?
>>2475108>Missing campaigns, has bugs, barely functions. It already had AoE1 DE and that was already buggy (the ships went over land all the time).>But for me, the original AoE1 is still king.How would I go about playing AoE in current year?
>>2477116Pure decoration, it didn't have any effect in Alexander
>>2477116I assume it's just set dressing, that said using fishing ships to gather gold from whales will probably happen in the campaigns
>>2477123Oh it's an old sprite. Lame.
>>2477120This is the ultimate way of playing AOE1 (not counting the DE-exclusive campaigns).https://upatch-hd.weebly.com/
>>2477131What's wrong with the Definitive Edition?
>>2477109https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdVHZwI8pcA
>>2477136If you mean AOE2DE, nothing much, it's playable, but replaces a bunch of AOE1 textures withh AOE2 ones. (Can't remember if the campaigns also raise the popcap from 50 in AOE2.) AOEDE has pretty ass UI and is a bit of a rough remaster in general.
>>2477140I meant AOE1 DE.
>>2477153It's not too bad but you have to deal with the soulless menu.
>>2477016If you're worried about aggression being too weak, aom is not the game.Would you argue other inconveniences such as bad pathing in bw and control groups limited to 12 units not being a thing would also make games easier for no reason?
>>2477158Can you throw in the original's menu for comparison?
>>2477165Ignore the aspect ratio, you can just 4:3 it.
AOE2DE for comparison as well
>>2476965Danes get Jomsviking, which is a raider infantry like the tarkanSaxon’s get Hearthtroop which are just firelancers basically.Varangians get Jarls, which are Mamelukes.Everyone gets longships and Varangian guard.
>>2476962>evil endif you mean the ending where you keep Xana and free your dad instead of betraying your heritage and faction for a judgemental moody blonde prick: that's actually the good endingno Havencuck can convince me otherwise
Danes are the 1st civ since saracens to have Knights but no Cavaliers.
>>2477278Where u find dis, link em
>>2477278new technology below parthian tactics
Great, another "infantry civ" with mediocre bonuses.
>>2477297nta, but it's official infohttps://www.ageofempires.com/news/danes-civilization-deep-dive/
https://www.ageofempires.com/news/danes-civilization-deep-dive/Wow they really made Yggdrasil the wonder.
>>2477278I only just noticed that the new civs only have 1 uu. Sure, they have a lot of regional units, but I'm glad that they stopped forcing 2 uu on every new civ.Maybe this dlc won't be half bad
>>2477311It definitely feels more classic AOE.
Does the Danish wonder train myth units?
>>2477309A fucking tree.
>>2477325Surely makes me wonder what they were thinking.
I guess this "civilization" never built anything more than two stories tallwhy do they keep adding these literal whos
>>2477331They have enough cathedrals to choose from.
We could have Somalians and Benin...
>>2477325>>2477326Well what the fuck did you expect? Can you name 1 famous Danish building? No? Then shut the fuck up and enjoy the tree you stupid niggers
>>2477303Cranequin was the name of the mounted crossbowmen from the old Age of Chivalry mod.Definitely feels like a Parthian Tactics-like thing, maybe not giving them armor but instead even more anti-infantry bonus?
>>2477382>Cranequin was the name of the mounted crossbowmen from the old Age of Chivalry mod.well that doesn't make any sense, a cranequin is the crank operated device used for spanning your crossbowAoE3 calls them their mounted xbows the Cranequinier instead of just "Cranequin" for a reason
>>2477303Betting it will either increase the range or rate of fire>>2477395>cranequin is the crank operated device used for spanning your crossbow>the icon looks like a plain old crossbow, no cranequin includedKek
>>2477163if bw had unlimited control groups zerg would be unbeatable
>>2477309>Northmen’s Fury: Siege units and siege ships +40% attack vs. buildings. Mangonel-line and siege ships +1 range.Oh no...
>>2477510Koreans on suicide watch
>>2476886>The Danish Wonder, the fabled Yggdrasil World Tree.Yeah.
>>2477539Hold on, that's three different monk models!
>>2477567one of them is the AoE1 priest from RoR being reused
>>2477539who's this guy
>>2477567Could Danes and Varangians be getting separate models?
>>2477575scenario editor unithe was added for the pre-christian lithuanians in that dlc
>>2477580you really think they would put in that much effort?
>>2477575>>2477598https://ageofempires.fandom.com/wiki/Pagan_Priestit's from the Algirdas and Kestutis campaignhttps://ageofempires.fandom.com/wiki/Family_Affairs
>Everyone says you should be able to 1v7 the hardest AI before even considering playing online>I struggle against Moderate and the highest I've beaten is Hard.I'm almost 30 I don't have the APM required for this,It's over for me.
>>24777101v7ing the hardest was a thing before DE when the AI was much MUCH shittier, and Extreme difficulty didn't even existcurrent Extreme AI is like 1,1k elo or something, there's thousands upon thousands of players way below that who still have fun in ranked, just queue and lose a few to get to an appropriate rank and you'll get balanced games regardless of how shit you are
>>2477712But...I'm scared...
For me... it's the Danish Tree Rush. Trust me guys, I'm the pocket. I know what I'm doing
>>2477309Tf are Cranequins. I bet it's xbow speed so danish mounted xbows coupled with thumb ring become machineguns brrrr
>>2476786>Chopper!
thread themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB1_60VTCVg
>>2477710Join me in the 500 elo mines anon.
>>2477749These are cranequin>>2468329 >>2468393 >>2468394
>>2477601I don't get why Lithuanians don't have this by default, they were the last big pagan civ, which lasted well towards the end of the AOE2 timeframe.
>>2477710>that castle time>that blob of dark age milYou're gonna need to first learn a basic build order.
>"the viking sagas">look inside>it's just one saga
>>2477849because the first campaign mission is about converting those dorks to Christianity and the civ bonus of monasteries working faster is a reference to them inviting Catholic missionaries and their conversion to Christianity and the elite Leiciai ride into battle wearing the sign of the Cross(in this case the cross of the Jagiellons dynasty, the dynasty founded by Jogaila)
>>2477749Actually it's the opposite, irl at least. It's a slow spanning system - you have to crank the crap out of it back and forth, but it doesn't take much strength and delivers brutal draw weights.
>>2477962Maybe a cost reduction tech then? i.e. less training required
>>2477981Well, the device itself was high-tier, expensive, maintenance-heavy and hard to repair. Certainly not standard issue anyone could get.
>>2477710I went from finding moderate AI somewhat challenging and getting curb stomped by hard AI to comfortably beating Hardest in about 7 days of playing and learning about the game. What helped was setting up and using hotkeys, practicing one build order and learning about feudal rushes and how to counter them. Have you also tried doing the art of war campaign? That helped as well.>I'm almost 30 I don't have the APM required for this,Low ELO players have eAPM of around 12, you'll be fine.Either way, you are most likely going to lose your first dozen or so games even if you get good enough to beat hard and hardest AI (I did, at least), so I don't see much point to make a fuss about it.
>>2477749probably +1 rangefrom the gifs it looks like they have less range than standard cavalry archers
>>2477852I haven't played in a while so I'm rusty.
Rage Forest Grand Final starting now
>>2478546who the fuck are any of these players?
>>2478578Black/Rage Forest regulars. It's different sort of mindset / game than usual.
After 600 games and never reaching 1300 despite trying my hardest, I've come to the conclusion that RTSs are just not for me.See you all on /v/ (if you even frequent that shithole). Goodbye.
>>2478621
>>2478621>AoE4 gets a China campaign about famous Medieval general Yue Fei>it tells the story of Yue Fei, his victories and his tragic death, doesn't shy away from a historically accurate downer ending>AoE2 gets a China campaign featuring ancient political factions awkwardly shoved into the Medieval game>Campaign doesn't actually take place during the Three Kingdoms>final mission is a fantasy scenario that completely throws history out the window and makes your chosen faction somehow magically wins, stopping the actual Three Kingdoms period from ever happeningcurse you Cysion you unfilial villain!
>>2478887Age2 will get DLC featuring campaigns for China with the An Lushan rebellion or Ming Dynasty, Japan and the Kamakura Shogunate, Korea for the Jurchen and Mongol Wars, then unlock Khitans and Jurchens (redundant with 3K) but feature campaigns for the foundations of the Liao and Jin dynasties. It then has a Tibetan campaign for the 3 Dharma Kings, and then Tangut campaign for their flight from Tibet to form the Xia It came to me in a dream
sex tech tree
>>2479267>shield wall: Infantry gain additional armor when massedPoor romans got keked
>https://www.ageofempires.com/news/saxons-civilization-deep-dive/THE SUPER COOM! THE SUPER COOM HELMET IS REAL!
>>2479267that discount is just a shittier goth discount
>The Saxon Wonder, an iconic turriform church.Eat your heart out, danekeks
>>2479279more like the shitton poo helmet
>>2479267>>2479280actually if "foot soldiers" means archers and skirms too, people will just play this "infantry" civ as full archer instead, by imp they have FU arbs with a 20% discount
>>2479279SHIELDWALL!!!>another day another civ bonus stolen from Chronicles
>>2479279Should have been the civ icon.
>>2479284If that applies they really shouldn't have Arbs, Thumb Ring or Bracer at the very least.
>>2479267>Cranequin icon changed to include an actual cranequinThe devs read these threads, confirmed.
>>2479284>>2479378of course it applies to archery range, it would just say infantry if didn't
so starting castle age the Saxons get>free yasama>goth infantry discount>byz skirm discount>maya archer discount>longest range monks in the game>infinite stone from spamming lumber campsaids civ
>>2479401>No Blast Furnace>10 stone per 100 wood spent (worse than market prices)>Unit discount requires investment (can't rush with it)Not nearly as bad bu they should lose Thumb Ring though.
>>2479451>10 stone per 100 wood spent (worse than market prices)you can't turn 100 wood into 10 stone at the market, you sell 100 wood for 17 gold, which you then need to spend on buying stoneif stone costs more than 170 gold (which it absolutely will late game), it's gonna be more efficient to spam lumber camps for stone than sell the wood
>>2479381>implying they don't have enough autists yelling at them on their forums
>>2479282Danes got REALLY shortchanged, didn't they.
>>2479401>>infinite stone from spamming lumber campsThat burns a shit ton of wood though, it's probably more efficient to just use the market.
>>2479468see >>2479456not to mention every lumber camp produces 50 food too so it's an even better trade
>>2479381Then why aren't they giving Wu and Shu fire lancers?
>>2479267This is pretty solid no? FU arbs, hussar, siege engineers, very good infantry, very good navy, excellent monks plus a good eco bonus?
>>2479550hussar with blast furnace and armor missing is not good
>Alberto Barbosa is like 11 years old by now
>>2479603o meu rei o7
>>2479555Still top half. Lots of civs don't get hussar or bloodlines.
So what's the point of hitting "Resign" instead of "Quit game"? To see the enemy spam "11"?
>>2479611>Still top halfNot really. The last armour is way more important than hussar. Missing blast furnace on top of that makes it underwhelming
>>2479626nigga my hussar need to go kill vills, I'm not fighting knights and shit with them.
>>2479640exactly kevin. That's why the pierce armor is crucial
I did better this time around.I would've ended the game around 40 minutes but I told the AI not to resign.I wish I could toggle my tc to just keep pumping out villagers, that's my biggest weakness, is I keep forgetting to keep it active.
>>24796582 pierce armor isn't gonna make or break that. They got the speed and HP to do the job and are top half. It's not a cav civ, I just need literally any mounted trash to get back there in late imp and they have more than enough to make that a small boon and not average or bad.
Decided to play Persians because I learned they can replace the Gold cost on their Archers with an extra wood cost.Except it's a Castle Tech and not a race passive like I thought it was.I'm kinda retarded.Anyway I bashed down the Byzantine city with my Rapephants.Also I completely forgot about the Imperial Age.I'm kinda retarded.
>Longships, Cannon Galleons +20% HP>No Clinker Construction>Monks +1 range, +33% train speed>No Fervor>Cheaper infantry with extra armour in Imp>No Blast FurnaceI can see the focus on defensive gameplay, and I know it all comes down to the execution on release day, but I wonder just how much strength is gonna be siphoned from these mising techs. I feel like Fervor in particular is gonna be a big punch in the gut.
>>2479722Kamandaran is kinda meant to be researched when gold on the map starts to run out. Trashbows are a great support unit, but since Persians lack both Arb & Bracer and the correct architecture style, you're not supposed to use Trashbows as your main fighting force.Elephants are fun, but as you get better you'll find that Knights are superior. Elephants shine on closed maps like Arena where you have time to boom and get the eco needed to maintain them, but on Arabia, Knights win because of how crucial speed is.
>>2479697You are objectively wrong because any light cav with plate armor and bloodlines is better, and half of the civs have access to both. Making this a bottom half / average unit.
>>2479381to be fair even Spirit of the Danelaw pointed that out in his video on the civ preview
>>2477710I can't deal with AoE2 but got into AoE3, hoping to play multiplayer at some point. Eventually I could play on Hard (actually kind of easier than medium because AI gets less suicidal and more conservative with units), and even beat Hardest sometimes (that's when AI actually executes interesting plays). At some point... I lost interest in online play. Looking forward to the new update which is supposed to have a ton of upgrades for computer opponents.
>>2479640they're literally worse than briton light cav who miss both bloodlines and hussarno blast furnace also means they kill villagers in 5 hits instead of 4, so they're even worsesaxon hussars are genuinely dogshit
Decided to play Turks because I want to play a Gun Civ.Forgot Handcannons are weak to Ranged, and they built almost all ranged so my Jannisary Deathball got raped, and I had just built a bunch of Handcannons.So I bolster them with Skirms to help even things out, only to see they're doing a relic victory, so I managed to run my ass over fast enough to get to the Monestary in the back, and luckily I pre-planned and snuck around, because I didn't even notice they had a wall.Got in before they finished it, and as I was taking their Monastery they raided me with horses, luckily I had spearmen saved.Unluckily, Turks have no spear upgrades.So I started a Wonder, had all the people working on it die, and then had to move it and protect it with Bombard towers.That was taking forever so I just ran my unwashed masses into their base with Sappers.Eventually I got bored of waiting and just let the AI resign.Somehow I feel like playing the Spanish with Supremacy Vills would be more effective than the Turkish.Fucking Turkish. >>2479726I always chop way too much wood compared to everything else so I thought it would be a good idea.Ironically I almost never ever make Cavalry either, because I like death balling people with Infantry.Because I played way too much Orks in Dawn of War.I'm very stupid.>>2479737I've never actually played online yet.I need more practice.
>>2479744My biggest weakness has to be time management and timing.I spend to much time farming and not enough time making troops/vills, and I keep fucking up the timings of my upgrades and age ups.I got the gist of what counters what, so there's that.
>>2479744Me neither. Lost interest while trying to git gud.
>>2479752I wish it had a Campaign like DoW or Civ where you just slowly envelop the map through skirmish games.That would be cool.
>>2479303AoE II has been pilfering from its successive entries for at least over a decade.
>>2479737aoe3 was the first rts I tried to actually learn how to play. I got a build order from the heavengames forum and wrote it on an index card that I taped to the side of my monitor and practiced doing it against the computer until I thought I was good enough to try it on a human. my first game attempting it I was super nervous and messed up my timing by like 30 seconds so I thought I was doomed. when I finally got my army into my opponent's base though he typed "wait" in the chat. I thought he had to piss or something and told him he could pause, but he said "no give me more time I'm not done building my town." I just laughed and killed all his shit until he quit. anyway the point is there's no reason to be afraid of playing other humans because they're just as shit as you.
>>2479744>I always chop way too much wood compared to everything else so I thought it would be a good idea.Spam farms if you have wood surplus.
>>2479729Go run the numbers kid, less than half the civs have bloodlines and hussar. This isn't complicated, stop letting your feelings make stupid posts.
>>2479739another ESL thirdie
>>2480081you retarded?hussars without armor die too quickly to TC fire (= shit at raiding)and without blast furnace they need extra hits to kill villagers (= shit at raiding)
Polish into the Huns.Absolutely ass rammed for most of the game, and after an hour and a half I have a deathball of Winged Hussars and Rams to rape their base.But I forgot to tell it not to resign, and it ragequit.I'm mad.
>>2480139I would've had a better lead if my villagers didn't kill 3 of my fucking pigs at once!Stupid Polacks.
>>2480079with both I meant plate armor and bloodlines, half of the civs get those. I'm glad that the other anon provided hard numbers for you, but it's embarassing that you are dying on this hill instead of moving on
>>2480139The return of the jeetmaster.
>>2480184Que?
if a casual, moderately educated white person doesn't immediately recognize the civ being presented, then it shouldn't be in the gameidk wtf a khitan is and i dont care
>>2480215wtf is a burgundian
I have no idea what happened with my Age timings.I swear I got Castle and Imperial way sooner than that.Motherfuckers took my 5th Relic too.We both had 4 so neither of us could win the game.
>>2480184He's not playing Armenians thoughbeitever
Saxons are going to be like the Romans by stalling in Castle as their big stone reserves get spent trying to keep their castles up and fall off in Imperial as they lose the tech advantage.
>>2480184You're mentally ill
Any math-wiz here? What's the viability of Saxons trading wood for stone by making mills late game? Assume the alternative option is selling wood for gold for stone, and that market prices are fucked
>>2480321>Saxons are going to be like the RomansSo they're gonna top the WR rankings?
>>2480321In Imp they have the Goth, Maya, and Byzantine unit discounts all combined, with FU arbs, extra tanky infantry, yasama towers, and infinite stone. They're guaranteed to win basically every grindy game.
>>2480341They get 10 stone for 100 wood by building mills. So 1000 wood for 100 stone. They have guilds, so they can sell 100 wood for 17 gold at the market. 1000 wood gives 170 gold. Once the price of stone hits 170 gold per 100, building mills becomes more efficient. To reach that price, the players have to buy 900 stone total. That's less than two castles total, or about 7 towers, which the Saxons are encouraged to build a fuckton of.So yes it will be very viable in the late game.
>>2480419I keep forgetting that FU means fully upgraded, not fuck you.
>Shield Wall benefits Halberdiers>Halberdiers don't have shields
