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No, Vic 3 is not good yet. In fact it never will be. Neither will EU5.

How fares your empire, /gsg/?

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Previous thread: >>2454127
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nope, it's just a noun and nothing more
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they hate victoria 3 because it's the common man's game. victoria ii is like an exclusive club.
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no i hate vic3 because war in it sucks dick
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also the map is fucking ugly, it looks like watercolor painting with a heavy emphasis on water like stop with the faded coloring shit
eu5 did a much better job with the colors
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vic3 is so boring even a girl wouldnt make it worth playing
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also yeah it released almost 4 years ago and france STILL spills across the rhine
you cant make a napoleonic rhine border
they left out giant fucking rivers like the one in riga dividing half of russia or most rivers in africa
the ones they bothered to put in the game are horrifically inaccurate like in siam/laos, it took them until a few hotfixes after the south america dlc to fix the fucking uruguay river

they REALLY dont give a fuck even about surface level shit
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in hindsight i thank them for having that purple-haired bitch in the teasers telling me upfront that v3 wasn't going to be a war game and that i wouldn't be controlling my military
it saved me from the trouble of having to try that hot flaming piece of dogshit garbage
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the post above me was made by michael jackson
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in which gsg/startdate genoa is better than venice?
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none of them
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1066 ck3 bc you can get groB tuscany, aquitaine, and duchy of barcelona "for free" in 20 years
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ck3 gets extremely boring in 50-100 years you're going out of your way to handicap yourself
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unless
except if
barring
save
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yeah i missed some of those
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friday night on /gsg/ more like friday night on cemetery.
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a jolly day at the designated burial grounds
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why was that post deleted
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Top 5 Paradox games:
1. Europa Universalis IV
2. Crusader Kings 2
3. Hearts of Iron IV
4. Victoria 2
5. Imperator: Rome
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>hoi4
no
>v2
nah
>imperator
nyet
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you forgot to deny eu4 and ck2
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goy4 IS easily top 5 pdx games if not top 1, it's just not a top 5 /gsg/ picks
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if we count by popularity it's their top game, but i wouldn't say it's a good game, but to be honest the last time i've interacted it was a couple years ago (when it launched)
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>>2460372
what is that even about
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which paradox games i can run in my thinkpad
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lol who is deleting innocuous posts?
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Finally
Victoria 2 gameplay automatized
https://www.moddb.com/mods/ai-army-control-toggle/downloads/ai-control-final-version-110
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sorry i only read papers and curated documentaries
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in a thread or 2 ago I saw people discussing that paradox can't do navies right, and it made me think how would you do naval warfare so its fun and engaging?
In every paradox game, naval battles are just a pure numbers game. whoever has better/more ships wins. Compare the vast sea to land warfare. With land battles you have to worry about terrain, forts, attrition, etc. The reason why a smaller weaker nation is able to defend themselves and win against a larger more powerful nation is because they can take advantage of fighting in their own land, They can stay on hills/mountains, defend forts, lure in the invaders for a kill, go scorched earth, etc. What is there to naval battles? just send all your ships to the battle, not like there are any defense bonuses or attrition. I honestly forget that ck3 doesn't have ships. Sure it's kinda silly seeing a huge army of 15k+ medieval soldiers transform into ships, but adding navies probably isn't worth the effort
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>>2460449
hOI4 Vanilla Navy Rework fixes that
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I like vic3 bc it's less eurocentric and they economic system it is good
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Is janny on a melty again?
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>PLC/Russian front
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can you play as china?
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>russia becomes polish catholic
>constantinople becomes serbian orthodox
fair trade desu
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Like Ming? Sure why not after this campaign, they're one of my favourite nations
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It's beginning to look that way. I'm tempted to rush towards Poland's capital and separate peace but that would be kind of lame and I don't want Russia to be permanently crippled
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Play a trade nation = unlimited money but terrible troops
Play a military nation = Incredible troops but no money
Play an Ottoman nation = Conquer the world by 1600

I know which one I'm picking.
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Where should I find a new homeland for the Circassian people? I was originally thinking southern france but the Mongols appeared and now I need to find something within reach
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stellaris font in eu4 is disgusting
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MAN-made horrors beyond comprehension might be from /gsg/ yes
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>>2460550
I just love how Tom Bull is holding him up. It's like that really short turk guy they post videos of him punching them harmelssly and stuff
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>peace with Ottomans
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>peace with Commonwealth
Russia granted us Salento as part of a separate peace with Two Sicilies
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>Serbia in 1562
I think it's about time we start to distance ourselves from Venice.
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form the roman borders or ur gay lol
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Imagine the bloodbath if Serbia pulled this off in times where the roaches already settled in the Balkans and Anatolia...
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gsg for colonizing spain as arabs?
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ck2
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that shit is old unc
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at least it ain't a memegame like a certain second installment of a series that wears the victorian label despite being actually anything but.
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guy who thinks the victoria series peaked at 1 and everything after is a poor imitation of perfection
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ck2, 3 or eu4. throw a coin
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i peaked in liqqy2school
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>Mongols appeared
why do people play with random mongols
anyway stick to southern france, let the mongols be the pressure that forces your people to keep pushing west
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only pedophile rapists dislike vicky 2
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macho milf fuckers play eu4 while crossdressing
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vgh vgh vgh i just had another amazing epic mega campaign idea:
restoring ancient athens back to its former glory, starting in imperator rome, and reuniting the diadochi under athenian leadership, fending off rome, then, in ck3, gimping yourself by splitting off from the athenian empire as a vassal in the east and going full-blown alexander the great mode but this time not conquering india but CHINA and then converting to buddhism UGHHHH greco-buddhism my beloved and then yeah eu4 and vic2 you just go with the flow.
i just thought of that last part while typing this man this is so epic im gonna do it
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>nobody plays eu4

meanwhile only eu4 is played
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your map is confusing me why is the date so low
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1558 is already lategame eu4 doe
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about as much of a victory as america and the cold war, we're invading vststan
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i don't like eurocentric games
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>pyrrhic victory even doe all of discord embraces no reply culture
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^ what did he mean by this? ^
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which african country do you recommend in vic2 gfm
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i never played gfm, but if the ai is as braindead as in hpm then i recommend zulustan
i remember i beat off both spain and portugal
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but did you defeat them?
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the ai is braindead in every mod, it's hardcoded
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try krimmod, the ai literally plays better than nataliafag
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i went bankrupt and died
rerun time
I VVILL make Mombasa great again
this time im selling titles instead of manamaxxing so i can make it out of the first war with money in the bank
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but the optimal manamaxxing strategy (via innovative ideas and stacking advisor cost reduction) involves selling titles for money
you sell titles then immediately revoke land then devv for crownland. you end up with a shitload of dev and a shitload of money
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do you mean seize land? but you can only do it once every 5 years
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>ev&oe this was in 1450 so no 'deers and i gave away all my crownland for mana privileges so i couldn't have sold b4 the war
its like ur not even looking at my screen
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i didnt liked crimeamod, they erased all african cultures
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yes, seize land, that's the name
you sell land then seize land. you just need your estates to trend above 60 loyalty and occasionally do the agenda for the one that got uppity via event
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accurate
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Only CK3, Imperator and HOI4 are good
The rest have awful AI
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i haven't played ck3 and imperator but you sabotage your point by saying goy$ has non-shit ai
if you play as germany and leave your western border completely ungarrisoned in '39 when you attack poland france will not attack you at all
literally a braindead game where you just draw arrows and win
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im literally not talking about seizing land though. my first post was not written well. to be clear i am implying that if i had not given privileges that give +1 of one of the monarch points then i would have had enough crownland to sell titles before i went to war and would not have gone bankrupt for at least a couple more months during which i may have been able to appropriate some funds from my enemies
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historically accurate france
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yeah i too've come to the conclusion that the +1 mana privileges are stupid because they make the estates very hard to keep in line
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>>2460848
>>2460848
>>2460848
yes, the ai doesn't encourage soldiers!! or does so on a very low priority i guess, but i saw The German Empire having red brigades and provinces without soldier pops because it kept promoting craftsmen instead!!!
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what a peculiar use of exclamation marks
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we use exclamation euros these days
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If the game is called "Europa" Universalis then why are the Ottomans, Mamluks, and Timurids the most powerful nations in the game?
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ayyyyyy lmao
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because the protagonist can't start out strong. he needs to start out weak and gain power to defeat the final boss, otherwise it's not fun
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>>2460732
Nice one. I once had a similar idea of a Athenian Empire mega campaign but IR-CK2-EU4-Vic2 and not converting to cringe religions like buddhism. Either stay Hellenic or convert to Orthodoxy while blobbing similarly to the Roman Empire but more eastern orientated to prevent Islam. Might completely destroy the Mecca/Medina region to make sure.
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every time i get a cool idea for a megacampaign i remember that you can easily become the top dog within the timeframe of a single game and then it's all boring throughout the rest of the games
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yeah but if you blob and then just play tall and roleplay internal conflicts and make all your neighbors vassals and tributaries
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vgh i mvst cqnqver the lesser kings and bring prqsperity to their lands
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your.... Corruption. is growing. i. i didn't know you felt that way about me.
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egypt is fun
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i got raped by the austrians lol
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>120k £
i usually just spam invest in whatever the capitalists are doing. no cappies?
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I played Victoria 3 a few months ago and I had fun.
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why crimeamod removed ukranians wtf
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i like to click on provinces that i can see from countries whos capital i don't know so it reveals the capital it feels good in seeyoufor
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because there's no gameplay reason to have them
they're always accepted by russia no matter what
they're not accepted by anyone else like in pdm where poland can accept them
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Paradox games I have played and my favourite nation in them:
EU IV: Brandenburg
Victoria 2: Prussia
Hearts of Iron IV: Czechoslovakia
Crusader Kings 2: Connacht (Ireland)
Imperator Rome: Hibernia (Ireland)
Stellaris: Humans (Xenophile)
Victoria 3: Ottoman Empire
Crusader Kings 3: Desmond (Ireland)

What are your favourite Paradox nations to play as?
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also "african" why
and removed a lot of african cultures as nations
i'm disgusted
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the only african cunt removed is sokoto doe
and the one singular nigger culture makes african cunts like ethiopia more playable because you can just make a pan-wakandan empire instead of always being confined to your starting location because lol no accepted cultures
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but what about zulu and the other african cultures
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>>2460936
But there are thousands of different tribal groups and they all hate each other.
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and i hate my neighbor, but that doesn't mean slovene should be multiple separate cultures
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how come gsg is so active 2day
>>2460923
egypt is mega op, dont do the meme alawite empire
>>2460927
>unciv
>invest in factories
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look guys i'm tired about eurocentrism in/gsg/ can we just play ming or ethiopia or something besides the typical eurofag fantasy
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your gold WILL be mine and you will like it. should have gone to mil tech 4 zimBABIES.
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In our timeline: The United Kingdom was the greatest empire of human history.
Now, imagine a timeline where the global hyperpower wasn't the UK but it was Madagascar.
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you're right im gonna go for madagascar next
they are stealing my trade and this cannot continue
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Almost done with this playthrough in the Faerun mod (started as the Vhaeraunite Drow Shadow Dragon in Ched Nasad in the last start date), goal is the rest of the Sword Coast. Any recommendation for who to play next? I like underdogs. The toughest battles were against other dragons who almost always crippled my armies.
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Also, for shits and giggles, I may or may not rape Alustriel's spawn when they come of age. They have good genes and are worthy of being the mothers of my bastards. I caught them in a siege .
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>>2460933
>Ireland
Something that you can always come back to, I just finished an Irish (with roman borders) empire campaign a few weeks ago. Near the end I got dragged into a very long bizarre Jihad for Arabia since my militant Christian vassals conquered most of Arabia. I had a hindu for an ally and we beat back the horde after some back and forth occupations and attrition. Only play CK and Stellaris, so;
CK2; Yemen
CK3; Éire
Stellaris; Authoritarian Xenophobe
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Only non-European country I ever played was Assyria.
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And Israel in Imperator Rome. Totally forgot about that one.
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It isn't supposed to be that big.
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EU5 sucks I´m gonna play FC 26 to get my gsg fix.
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Imagine the meltdown if a team only hired European players and totally destroyed the whole league.
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how much does one pay to have their company as one of the sponsors in a soccer video game?
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HPM or GFM or HFM or Victoria III
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Crimeamod
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The sponsorships you see in the game are tied to the licenses the game has with the clubs and leagues.
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>EU IV: Brandenburg
coward
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>>2461027
That game is fucking dreadful. Made it fully arcade. Players getting stuck in animations tipped me over the edge. Only play career mode. The matches just feel like garbage on world class yet professional is always 10-0. Despise the game.
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>>2461126
please please please i haven’t laughed this hard in ages someone needs to witness this i canr be the only one
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laugh at this instead
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alpha greg would have protected ungarn
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>>2460865
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>>2460865
>>2461163
Shit lists.
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I still think it is absurd that Castille is a really formidable nation on day 1 but about 30 years after the game start they then get an event-driven personal union on Aragon which is also a powerful nation.
At least the Burgundian Inheritance isn't always certain.
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wait till bro find out about 1544 start date castile
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>I still think it is absurd that Castille is a really formidable nation on day 1
what is absurd about it
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Sorry, I meant that Castille was both very powerful and gets a huge power spike early on in the campaign.
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it's castile with one L, retard
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eu4 should have a symmetrical start because it's a 4x game
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you should have a symmetrical face
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Nations that I endeavour to play in EU IV:
1. Ottomans
2. France
3. Castile
4. Provence
5. Austria
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none of these are fun because you start out too strong (except provence)
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Focus on achievements or roleplaying.
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why are you retards still engaging in this stupid thread 'culture' of not replying directly. It makes these threads too disjointed.
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anyone that's not greek is a barbarian
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how i be looking at latin dogs when they try to get near my greek fire amped dromon with their combustible vessel
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how i be looking at an average replyfaggot pondering if a post made 50 posts after his is actually directed at him
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shame the ottoman empire died
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i know that the ottoblob is eventually going to meet my expansion and i'm going to die. i just don't know what to do about it. i think ill go migrate to india or something.
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how about greece i've heard it's just like india
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this is the victoria general, though
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stop being eurocentric pals, which non european country are we going to play today?
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cyprus
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is playing as argentina eurocentric?
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argentina is in south america no? it's not super fun in any of the games in my opinion though.
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i enjoy playing her in liqqy 2, but it's definitely a 2nd monitor sort of deal
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argentina wc in hoi4 when
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remember seeing a lad do a luxembourg wc with paratroopers all the way back in 2016
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>>2461253
Keeps people like you out
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do i just have to wait 5 quadrillion years to keep lowering autonomy and seizing land? my avg autonomy is 73.40% so my economy is shit and it just ticks higher because i have 6.978% crownland.
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>>2461253
They bully me if I don't do it! UnU
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>>2461437
And that's a bad thing.
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why do you have only 7% crownland? why'd you do this to yourself?
if you wish to go low crownland at the start for extra privileges you might want to go below 5% so estates statutory rights event fires and you go back to 30% crownland (at the cost of 25% autonomy floor outside of your capital, but that shouldn't be an issue since eu4 is most fun when you start as a small cunt)
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play with the Incas
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i believe i lost it from selling titles because the cooldown is the same as seizing land but it gives 10% while you only seize 5%. i could go for that tho because i have no 'cinces under the flo' of 25 anyways 'sides my capital. however i have been below 5% before so i think i would need to go below 1%.
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it's an event that can fire if you're under 5%, but the mtth gets way lower under 1%
and you're supposed to get innovative>espionage>offensive ideas so you have plenty of mana to dev and get crownland that way if you wish to sell/seize on cooldown
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I haven't played Stellaris in about 8 years and I am too scared to give it a go.
Endless Space and Sins of a Solar Empire: Rebellion were picked up during the Steam sale so I might try one of those.
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this nigga typin uppercase ain't no way
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>economic comparison of Ottomans, Venice, France, PLC, and Serbia
Upper bound of the chart is 2544 ducats. I like how you can see the dip in the Turkish economy when we invaded. Now that we're truce-locked with all of our major paths of expansion the focus now will be on growing the economy. The vast majority of what has been invested already has been mainly been in barracks, forts and regimental camps to improve our army. Compared to the major powers we are going up against our base economy (without war taxes, war reps or looting) is rather pitiful and the difference will only increase as time goes on if we do not remedy this. Time to scale for a bit, repay the debt and fix our trade. I'll report back if anything interesting happens.
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Why is there no CK2's HIP-equivalent in CK3?
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>Diplo mapmode
Diplomatically we're still actively trying to slow France's expansion by allying ourselves with nations in the Low-Countries. We're guarantueeing Mantua for the same reason against Venice. I'm preparing to break our alliance with them to reclaim the rest of the Adriatic coastline. I also wanted to know if you guys had any thoughts on what to do about Italy/Anatolia. I was thinking about taking Venice and treaty ports in Genoa to spread Orthodoxy and for the trade, and maybe the coast of Anatolia equivalent to Magna Grecia borders but I'm not sure. Don't mind the war against Tunis, Aragon called me in
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Megali Plan not Magna Graecia*
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ck3 doesn't need a new hip, it's still quite young
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those frankish borders are disgusting
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hey /gsg/ amigos, don't you want to play as a southamerican nation
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no, i don't want to contribute to eurocentrism by reinforcing colonialism in south america
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*founds La Plata*
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i tried that in victoria 2, but the game broke my immersion
it's a memegame afterall
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you'd think that after all these years you would come to terms with argentinians being brown and the migrants assimilating into brown communities also becoming brown, instead of continuing to blame the game for that
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GFMbros
america rework anytime soon....
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you'd have to be a special kind of retard to let a videogame delude you from reality
but not me
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new addition: the csa now spawns in with the fascist party in power
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time doesn't heal all wounds. the gamespan in vanilla dankest hour being so short still keeps me up at night.
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didnt it go all the way to 1948 or something
and i think you could change the settings so that it ends 24 years after game start ie 1957 if you started at 1933
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yes, you'd have to be retarded to do that, but at the same time denying that water is wet because you don't like water levels is equally as retarded
calling victoria 2 a meme game for multiple years in a row for showing browns as browns is just silly
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is that a computer chip
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people don't change race from migration, so whites moving to south america stay white
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no, that's an occult symbol
the new world rebellions were instigated by freemasons after all
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yes, you're right, people change race from intermarrying with locals over time, which assimilation is an abstraction for (among other things)
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which is only an occasional occurrence when compared to not intermarrying
but with memegame2, it's evident at a much faster rate, roughly 3 years or however long it takes for migrants to turn into soldiers
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just modify it in defines.lua lol
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why would i bother with modding a memegame
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that's because it's an abstraction for the sake of gameplay
i don't see you going on a multi-year long campaign of complaining about eu4 which has much more ridiculous abstractions
but the end state in vic 2 is reflective of reality. white men arrive in non-white land, and after a couple generations it's all brown men
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>a couple generations
that would've been better represented as a mid- to late-game event instead of having the game crunch micro events with countdowns
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what about argentina though? i hear over there they had italians and germans immigrate and now they're white
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possibly, or it could even be delayed based on laws
now you understand that it's a real shame we never got a sequel to vic2 that improved upon its bad parts while keeping the good
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who cares about argentina
they lost the cup to spain, a brown country lmao
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a whole country shared one cup?? and they lost it????
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Shoutout to that one anon who told me to restart. Some small things have happened :
>serbia gp after embracing printing press
>aragon falls under pu with castile
>religious leagues have formed
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if you won't participate in the religious war till the end, ur a noob.
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eu5 posters gave up?
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pee-yew five fags get the rope. yoo for chads keep winning
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Playing as Brandenburg rn but gotta go to work I hate it so much
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i gotta' start waging soon myself
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH2hKkiqJYE
grand strategy, but among wild animals
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>Religious Leagues
Catholics are green, Proddies blue. Honestly I wouldn't mind ensuring a religious peace so I could potentially become HRE emperor. I guess I should join the Catholic League then.
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>>2461253
Because of aged, jaded millennials who want to post on this board the way they clock in and out of work. It's a routine to them and they hate anything that upsets "board culture", by which they really mean anything unfamiliar or stimulating.

Say what you want about sharteens (and I mean anything, really, there's a whole laundry list of problems) but at least they haven't succumbed to this stagnancy brought on by age.
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gsg noneurocentric games?
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sengoku
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>they released sole wolves into cat country
khet won
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aakhetists rise up
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oh so you love history? name the most strongest country in every century from 11th-21st century.
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who do you think i am? The Maddison Project?
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/gsg/ doesn't have girls
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1000s - byz
1100s - byz
1200s - hre
1300s - hre
1400s - castile-spain
1500s - spain (+hre)
1600s - france
1700s - france
1800s - great britain (overall)
1900s - usa (overall)
2000s - usa (so far)
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stop being eurocentric gsg
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I would say 1000-1300 China 1400 Spain 1500-1800 Netherlands 1800 UK
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11 north sea empire
12 angevin empire
13 mongol empire
14 venice
15 castille
16 austria
17 france
18 france
19 england
20 usa
21 china
nta did not even need to think as it insists upon itself

was not fast enough postan so now i will tear the other anon a new one
>byz
did not even cross my mind unironically breh
>hre
as a whole or what nigger state rights lmao

ok that is it the rest is very similar to mine
go play more ck2 and utilize all the start dates and go look up modern supply chains in real life
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I’ve never been able to endlessly enjoy any Paradox game other than CK2. I got 500 odd hours in EU4, but after playing every country and region I have been half a shit about and figuring out how to min max everything, it got extremely dull.

Victoria 2 never grabbed me, the economics seem simultaneously overcomplicated and completely broken, and the politics never seem to map to anything that actually happened in any country in real life. HoI4 is a baffling game, you just click focus trees and wait 70 days to make the US fascist or whatever other absurd outcome, it barely feels like playing a video game outside of the combat.

The newer batch of games isn’t any better. CK3 is just dumbed down CK2 even after six years of updates. Maybe vanilla vs vanilla isn’t bad, but modded CK2 is still in an entirely different level. Victoria 3 is so broken is makes 2 see, practically bug free, the war system is fundamentally broken and needs to be ripped out, and politics are actually worse at modeling the era than in 2. EU5 is some ungodly mix of Imperator: Rome and MEIOU, it barely feels like an EU game at all, I genuinely don’t think Johan knows what the fuck he’s doing anymore.

Modded CK2 still does it for me though. I genuinely wish I could get that feeling from another game, hell even the feeling from the first couple hundred hours of EU4. It’s on me for continually buying every new game this company puts out and expecting anything to match it. The Vicky3/EU5 shitshow duology was the last straw for me though, I’m truly out.
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go try stellaris
>It’s on me for continually buying every new game this company puts out
lmao
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It is called the Eastern Roman Empire and its legitimacy is unquestionable.
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play project alice!
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>Bro you gotta play crimeamod the AI is so much more intelligent
The UK just sent half a million men to die in the Iberian Peninsula because they wanted to anex... Zinbabwe
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25
yeah it just buffed slop it doesn't alter the intelligence
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unlike irl where *check notes* the uk sent a million men to die in flanders because they wanted to... prevent austria annexing serbien
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They did it to prevent German hegemony on the continent.
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and it sounds like the highly advanced crimeamod ai was preventing spanish hegemony on the continent (of africa)
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when did people become so combative that they call every joke or random thought bait
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^ bait
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bait on deez nutz (bait kind of sounds like bite)
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Hey, I am thinking about playing a Castile campaign.
Most likely going to stick to the mission tree and limit blobbing.
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hey, stop baiting
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The only baiting going on here is Christopher Colombus thinking that America was India.
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what does it mean to limit blob? am i limit blobbing when i put myself in jeans that are too small?
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Don't expand just because you can. Expand until you control your local region and then roleplay.
Some examples:
France conquers until it reaches its modern borders
England only conquers the British Isles
Castile takes only Iberia
Austria sticks with just Bohemia and Hungary PUs
Muscovy... well, Muscovy still gets to be a titan and conquer all of Russia
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im gonna play as mexico
tips?
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i was trying to be funny but it came off wrong and sounded like i was being genuine. sorry. nice explanation though
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>>2462035
This is fucking stupid because in crimeamod Africa is full of tribesmen who do fuck all.
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True
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>Adriatic coast acquired
Ended up joining the Protestants to counterbalance France. Ideally we achieve religious peace
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Massive war
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La cucaracha
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EU5
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Will be a good game in about 2 years.
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What gsg are you playing today? Me CK3
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>>2462180
>CK3
>gsg
Pick one and only one.
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what makes ck2 more of a gsg than ck3
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ancient greeks were something else man.
like lysimachus who married, and had his son marry, one of ptolemy's daughters each.
and the daughter that lysimachus married would later go on to marry first her half-brother and later her full brother.
that is just so wild isnt it. you know, lysimachus and ptolemy are just two diadochi pals who served together under the great alexander, and then he just goes and marries his daughter. and as if that wasnt enough his son marries a daughter too. like, how awkward was it at the family dinner table amirite guys lmao.
and then lysimachus dies and ptolemy's daughter goes and marries her own two brothers in good ol ancient greek incestual fashion. man oh man those people were something else, eh
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and then you wonder why they failed
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I am going to play as Portugal and reach Indonesia before 1500.
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>>2462195
None of those are gsg.
Just The Sims for very special boys.
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>>2462311
>map painting
>declare war
>raise armies, send them to fight
>engage in diplomacy
>fight off rebellions
>deal with vassals
>deal with succession
>deal with technology
>develop your land
>culture and religion relations
it's grand strategy
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there's certainly a strategy to it... one that has many facets, many ideas and techniques... in proportion, it could even be labeled a "grand" sort of strategy... hrmmm. some sort of "grand-strategy" game... if only we had a 4chan thread about it. I know what I'll call it! /GSGG/!
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I joined the serbian independence movement
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how long did it take you to finally build ships to expand from hawaii
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EU4 SUCKS
LONG LIVE THE NON MANA SYSTEMS
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eu4 was the only good game paradox has ever made
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Oh no
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answer my question faggot
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>>2462441
the implication of akkad's being that there is something inherent to black south africans which makes
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it impossible to have a successful and safe community?
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Hey, you. You’re finally awake.
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kys Pellena
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i will embrace buddhism
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>buddhism
The 90s are over where hipsters "converted" to Buddhism just for vibes
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>left handed
>subhuman
>plays ck2
damn, you really missed your mark with that one faggot
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What christian religion should I go for, I'm half and half on staying Catholic or becoming Reformed.

>>2462499
How's 5 these days?
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what is the point of forming some nations aside from the flag change
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the dopamine from the flag change
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the dopamine from the slightly darker variant of the previous map color
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the dopamine from pink prussia hits different
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i wonder what robbie's up to these days
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literally who
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vgh femprussia
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wonder what happened to that anon that would post hetalia porn all the time
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literally who
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Nearly bored myself to death there for the first 40 years but I think we're starting to pick up steam.
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The best nations are the ones that you can't run at full maintenance 24/7.
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Honestly the start was still was slow as fuck but there was more going on than I thought there would be and having to manage the economy at the level of +.05 ducats per month making a difference was very entertaining
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nice date
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^ ai post
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how is that an ai post
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anyways this is some good coffee
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>electrolytes are good
no way
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i literally never watched starwars/lotr
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watching capeshit will lower your lifeform status don't do it
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too bad...
you're too old to enjoy it now, but at the same time too young to catch the movies when they came out
you needed someone older to push those movies on you, but alas, you had no one
now you can choose to just live out your days not knowing what it would be like to have been influenced by lotr and star wars
and indiana jones and krull and dune, etc. for that matter
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x-men is special kind of capeshit, these niggers aren't like "hurr i'm here to save the world", they are more like "fuck dude i gotta' survive, normies want to lynch me"
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just smoke pot and watch the scary movie series
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disgusting
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uh then drink red wine and watch twilight
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best football game?
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divegrass
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what about eh whatsitcalled the mummy?
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imhotep
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it's a jewish name
they tend to name themselves after their places of birth as a camouflage
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for me it seems kind of like a cowboy or gangster name
like buffalo bill or billy the kid
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that's what they want you to think
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Henry Walton "Indiana" Jones, Jr.
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the dog, he was named after the dog
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try watching that brad pitt movie about jesse james
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moooooods delete his post it doesn't deserve the trips
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shut the hell up
thank you
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...
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not ai.
feeling good about this.
strong alliance network. only talabecland ally is left.
too bad, my Dominion Übersreik is allied with Marienburg and i just lost them
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Am I on /gsg/ or /twg/?
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vgh wholesome vanilla reikland campaign
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/toxic waste general/
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might call in Nordland and give them Aarnau and everything north of the Reik. or do i take Aarnau and stuff to myself and m? Little Harbour or big harbour and take all of it? i quickly want to attack france:
i wonder if Norsca attacks Nordland at some point. Khazzrak One Eye is start aswell as those Black Pit Orcs
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yes this is twg, post your world of giantshoulderpadorc fantaslop campaign against the zombiecyborgfaggots of drednog
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for me it's cao cao, the basic bitch choice
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For me, it's Brandenburg.
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my pauldrons are a little small but i hope this will do
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holy shit someone's still playing empire in this day and age
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how could i miss Altdorf and Cult of Sigmar aren´t even part of me. (i allied them)
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and i want to put mine into ze ladys

a cathedral would be big. ngl worth it or? just culture convert it back. or maybe there is an event to do something with ze Lady?
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Mommy Miao Ying starts as Dominion under Celestial Regency.
i play tomorrow Reikland more
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good morning /gsg/
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it's 2am
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vgh utc1reich
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>there are 3 hours of solar time difference between spain and poland
i'm sure that's healthy
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>there are 3 hours of solar time difference between spain and poopland
it certainly is healthy
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Europe can never stand as a federalist power unless the entire continent adopts the same time zone like China
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>federalist power
hard pass
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>federacy
:|
>confederacy
:o
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i'll sÖyface for the option where no outside forces tell my country to keep sending money to jewkraine
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reich,_Germany
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it's almost 5am, perfect time for a ck3 run
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openfront: simultaneously the best and worst gs game in a decade
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Got a little Morocco campaign going.
We are making decent money and will soon have 30 heavy ships.
The next objective is to try and brute force Castile + Portugal + Aragon and form Al Andalus.
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>spend countless ducats, delay renaissance, expand suboptimally to beeline the new world to have a chance at colonialism
>can't spawn it as my capital is in oceania
What a massive waste of time, I guess having a bridgehead in NA will be usefull when I finally get the colonial range to core it.
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Very nice anon, did you stay as Sunni? Also are you planning on expanding into the Sahel/the New World ?
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>unreleased game
>"best"
>"worst"
no
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early access games are games too you fascist swine
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>athens in morea
>karaman owns constantinople but lost their homeland to the ottomans
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The English are great lovers of themselves, and of everything belonging to them; they think that there are no other men than themselves, and no other world than England.
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sounds like ming
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but it's not even early access though
no one has fuckin' played it
it is NO access
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confederalism has never worked
where is the HRE today?
where is the kievan rus today?
where is the CSA today?
where is the delian league today?
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>>athens in morea
this always bothered me about eu4. A country can be named after a region/city despite the fact they don't even own it. Like you can conquer all of iberia and spain will still be named spain and have their capital in some shitter island with 5 dev. I really like how in ck3 you can conquer the entirety of egypt and if a kingdom named egypt still exists, you can just usurp the title and now that kingdom is no longer named after egypt, rightfully so because they don't own it anymore
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republic of china
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nooooo, taiwan is not china despite the fact that they call themselves china!!!!
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>where is the HRE today?
in my heart <3
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I am the current-day Holy Roman Emperor
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more like the current-day elagabalus
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so a completely normal guy slandered by historians?
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who do you trust if not the historians
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usa really is the modern-day rome
gay and debauchery to the core
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guys, whenever you think its too late:
>genghis khan began his world conquest at 45
>ptolemy didnt have children until 49 and his descendants went on to rule over egypt for hundreds of years
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Been doing some expansion in the Americas. Vassal/tributarymaxxing has been an incredible boon to the Hawaiian eco. Finally being able to field cav. feels pretty good
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>Income
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caesar wept at a statue of alexander because he accomplished nothing despite being 30, it's never over bros
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vgh... what could have been..... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pueblo_republic
bottom text
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my little pruBia
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i saw that it's hex based and i closed the video
yet another video game that uses "grand strategy" for marketing purposes only and is actually competing with civ not paradox
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i can forgive hex grid only because games like hoi3 and war in the east 2 are based
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i mean, as long as the hexes are so miniscule that the nations can decently retain their shape, it is alright
hexes in civ games are cancer and if those games were to even try to focus on a real-world map it would look like shit because of the low number of hexes
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game where you can play as any country on historical setting earth = gsg
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^ ... okay, well, by that criteria, gilded destiny qualifies as gsg
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nta lmaoo
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just imagine gilded destiny taking memegame2's place as the best victorian age game
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grosspreuben
ordnung
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the bar isn't even that high tbqhwyfm and besides, memegame2 isn't even a victorian era game
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The harsh truth is that whilst having a strong navy can be great it will never be enough to outright win a war.
Men conquer land, not boats.
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The harsh truth is that whilst having a strong armored corps can be great it will never be enough to outright win a war.
Men conquer land, not tanks.
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The harsh truth is that whilst having a strong economy can be great it will never be enough to outright win a war.
Men needs stacked mil modifiers, not cash.
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where is pole5fag
is he safe
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Why can't you build factories simultaneously in hoi4
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to stop luxemburg from becoming an industrial powerhouse
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you can build civs and mils in parallel, just spread your civvies on multiple states
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good morning gsg
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what was her reaction? had u have that feeling that she wanted to take it in instantly?
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>where is pole5fag
probably too ashamed to reveal himself again in here,
given how much of a quitter he proved himself to be
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it's time to admit that the systems of eu5 are too complicated for the average paradox gamer. polish campaign was going well and the people were wanting more, but he simply could not manage the complexity of such an undertaking. future patches will simplify the game.
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eu5 is easy though
i was under the "overwhelming" effect for like what, about a week? it's only a bit more complicated than ck3
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do you liek tooltips xD
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i have upgraded from 60fps, i can finally mappaint
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epicsauce reference
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>the people were wanting more
holy revisionism hope /gsg/ won´t gobble it up like a normie gobbles up the news
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tooltips are good, yes
better than having to look up what every button is on google, or suffering half a dozen playthroughs and having to memorize
both of which are the ways of a cuck to playing a paradox game
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>getting off work early only to find /gsg/ has been absolutely radio silence during the usual prime active hours
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i'm sincerely sorry for disappointing you
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Vic3 and EU5 have devastated the genre
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hi
which non eurocentric tag are we going to play today?
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Everyone who plays paradox games are insufferable liberals. They always want to play some obscure brown country. I can't think of anything more boring than playing a country outside of the west. In Victoria 3, I don't want to colonize africa or asia. I don't want those niggers in my country. I don't care about you building a mongolian empire. I don't care about you making some small ass country a giga chad. It's fucking stupid. You notice how only children play these games?
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I dare all of you to go on youtube. Try to find someone that is playing a paradox game that doesn't have a voice that sounds in their teens or 20s. Never a deep voice of an adult playing these games. Always little squeakers or feminine sounding men.
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haven't played eu5 in like 2 weeks
every time i want to boot it up i get distracted by youtube
like i wanted to boot it up right today right now and then i see this in my feed https://youtu.be/kl_-tUPXd9A
i think im cooked
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the english language is just very feminine, most people pitch their voice when speaking it
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stop being euro and anglo centrist pal
embrace the global history vision of it
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>getting 'femboy' youtube recommendations
>getting distracted by them
holy shit, neck yourself lmao

>stop being
shut the fuck up and die retard
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>85
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KJ5Wz208zI
literally me in my native language vs me speaking english
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How come not a single person over the age of 40 plays any of these games? Remember the meme of the old guy playing victoria 2? Well that doesn't exist. The game is made to be popcorn for people who don't know much about history. Boomers probably can't stand how casual these games are, even though in theory they are made for them.
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>>2464185
Wrong. It's declining testosterone. None of these people have mature voices because they lack any masculinity and few of the players are over the age of 30.
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gonna run as rozvi epicness in memegame 2
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this guy is 48
https://www.youtube.com/@Steinwallen/videos
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westfalen
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dracukeo
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What are some eurocentric games? Like CK2 for example where initially the muslims were just there as enemies(accurate).
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unironically the guy in the video linked above (not mbeppe) seems like the type of guy to play gsg
like if you asked in the comments hed say he played eu4 i just know it
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This would have been about 10x easier if I had just conquered Saharan Africa instead of waiting for the stars to align so that I could jump the Iberian coalition.
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>>2464193
>GFM
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no other mod has content for africa
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Superpowers throughout modern history:
1600: Spain
1700: France
1815: UK
1919: USA
1945: USA + Soviet Union
1991: USA
2027: China
2030: India
2050: Economic Zone 1
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unplayable
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>>2464229
>No other mod has content for shitholes that did not even enter the Bronze Age
Yeah I wonder why
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48 is what the average GSGer age should be. An older guy who is interested in history and slow-paced games to relax after coming home from his 9-5. Not some minmaxing 20 something year old who spends 14 hours a day larping as a dead kingdom because he's too lazy to get a job



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