>Full RAM utilization, no need for 4GB Patch>Lightning Fast Turn Times, Load Times and Menus>Pike, firearm & 2-Handed Units Fixed>Modernized Camera Controls>Improved AI & Diplomacy>Sharper graphics>More informative UI>No Faction Limit>No Region Limit>No Unit Limit>Numerous QoL features>compatible with the majority of classic mods like SS 6.4, Broken Crescent, EB2, etc.>YOU ARE NOW HERE>Modernized graphics renderer>12x Battle Speed>Blood>...>40 Unit Battles>Directx11 SupportSo what campaigns are you gonna play?
>>2465871what mod is that and does it have europeans (more than just spain) as playable?
>So what campaigns are you gonna play?I tried it on vanilla.With the fixes for pike, guns, and 2-handed units, I played the vanilla grand campaign with the original vision of the developer. The gameplay is supposed to change several times to keep things interesting for the player, but because of the bugs that CA never fixed that doesn't happen by the time late-game, professional units are unlocked.So that got me thinking about mods like Stainless Steel, which I played a lot over the preceding two decades - they're far too long. The gameplay doesn't change enough during those long campaigns and so each battle and siege are very often exactly the same until new units are unlocked.
>>2465871>Improved AI & Diplomacyhow improved are we talking? and it's for both rome and medieval?
Is the dev that posts here pannoniae or dolfy?
>>2466943It doesn't matter. What they're doing is illegal and they will face the full force of the law.
>>2466979this so much thisdon't forget to play DaC with EoP btwalso I'm trans btw
>>2465986If you want to see the original vision of the developer, REX/M2EX will never be the way to do it. The devs are people who played the original game and thought it was shit, so they're making balance/mechanic/ui/lighting etc changes that cannot be toggled.
>>2465871The YOU ARE NOW HERE point at the moment is between 12x Battle Speed and Blood. But I want to know how far away we are from 40 unit armies?
Thankfully, the devs are going to remove all the bloat that made vanilla Med 2 so awful.No more gunpowder, and no more pope or crusades.
>>2467365Never claimed this. Current work is for UI, animation and lighting changes.
>>2467315>original vision of the developerfunny how you always bring this shit up>broken pathfinding>broken sieges>broken units>broken diplomacy>shit agents system>shit performance>shit campaign AI in general>shit pacing of the campaigntruly a nice vision
>>2467427This project is being directed by a council of discord zoomers who hated the original games and refuse to let you toggle their retarded changes. In the end, it will just be a different flavour of shit when compared to Rome Remastered, and the best way to play the games will remain the original releases with DXVK, warts and all. >broken units>broken diplomacyThese are valid things to fix, since you can see the intent, the code is just bugged. >broken pathfinding>broken sieges>shit campaign AI in generalThings that would be great to have fixed, but almost certainly won't be>shit agents systemThe agent system is perfectly fine once the diplomacy is fixed. Allowing you to spam their abilities within a single turn is typical zoomer retardation that misses the point of the turn-based mechanic. >shit pacing of the campaignNobody can agree on what "good pacing" constitutes, this will be a mess to tackle. >shit performanceThe performance improvements are objectively a good thingI notice that you never mentioned the lighting engine being bad, because it wasn't, and everyone who wasn't a CA shill thought it looked fine and was pissed that Feral fucked with it. The EX team is fucking with it anyway, simply because they can, and we're just stuck with their vision since it cannot be disabled.
I can only play the main campaign because microcuck thinks the M2EX dlc campaigns are virus
>>2467422Falling for a bait this obvious...>>2467427>>2467487Add forest maps to the list. In rtw you have to zoom in to the ground level to be able to see anything.
>>2467497Good, fighting in a forest should create visibility issues for the commander.
>>2467492https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=858982719Or better yet install Gentoo.
>>2467527Devs are anti-Linux
>>2467487As long as this stays a pure performance/bugs/QOL/old limitations mod I will die for it
>>2467535>As long as this stays a pure performance/bugs/QOL/old limitations modDevs already confirmed it won't. Also,>QOLpicrel
>>2467532Looks like a skill issue. Instead of porting to dx11 which is already obsolete he should have ported to vulkan or one of the many abstraction layers, then he wouldn't have to deal with dxvk.Also Linux didn't start vibecoding and there hasn't been any vibecoded issues in the kernel.
>>2467541He got skill-issued back to jeetdows
>>2467537It would also be fine I guess if they added a toggle for anything else like you said, but why spend the effort for shit that will certainly create controversy among the players in the first place. Other shit can be modded in later as extra layers, no?
>>2467544>but why spend the effort for shit that will certainly create controversy among the players in the first placeBecause this mod is being made for the group of discord members who want these changes because they thought the original games were terrible. People who just want the original games but fixed are going to be about as disappointed with this as they were with Remastered for the lack of toggles.
>>2467543This is the most bizarre criticism of linux I've heard.
>>2467547>>2467537>Devs already confirmed it won't.A shame. At least the genie is out of the bottle now for anyone that isn't retarded to retake if needed.
>>2467566>PA is fun to play around with.
>>2467506Yeah except it doesn't for the AI so really it just becomes an irritation where you forget where your units are.
>>2467547>People who just want the original games but fixed are going to be about as disappointed with this as they were with Remastered for the lack of toggles.they can play the latest stable version
>>2467550he's right, linux is a bunch of nigger-rigged ad-hocs all the way down
>>2467971>original games but fixedThere's lots of bugs in the current stable release, a number of which were introduced by the project. They're getting fixed over time, but the fixes are coming with patches that also introduce the new features and game changes
>>2467996Linux plays games better than jeetdows does, it just filters retards
>>2467315>so they're making balance/mechanic/ui/lighting etc changes that cannot be toggled.Modders were a mistake.
>>2467527I'm on windows and it lets me launch the M2EX main game but when I try to open the .bat files for the DLC (Americas, Teutonic etc) It thinks its a virus and wont let me launch it.
>>2466199What I've seen so far>More reasonable diplomacy, AI doesnt dig its heels in a negotiation and you dont have to haggle with them much. They also offer you map info and trade more liberally>No backstabbing from friendly factions yet>AI makes better stacks with way more high quality units and HC than Vanilla>Doesnt fall for siege exploits or excommunication baits>Smarter in cockblocking you. 2 factions who were enemies teamed up against me when I started bordering them.
>>2468185
>>2468185Make a windows defender exception.There's a bunch of methods to run mods like "--features.mod=..." flag
>>2465871>>Pike, firearm & 2-Handed Units Fixedis it the shit where they make pikemen unable to ever drop their pikes so even if you hit them in the back they'll swing around and start stabbing your horses to death as if nothing happened?
>>2468185It’s actually a virus.
The most baffling thing is they changed almost all starting general portraits for seemingly no reason. Everybody who has played Rome knows picrel isn't the bald beast with the very lively trait that Julii starts off with and it's such a minor thing to fix too and the only thing it can possibly achieve is to piss people off. It makes sense if you consider the fact that the devs are zoomers who haven't played the games but still.
>>2468424No, it's properly fixed
>>2468449is that the mobile port? The Ui looks condensed.
>>2468730It's REX, that's what the UI looks like with the new font etc
>>2468424>if you hit them in the back they'll swing around and start stabbing your horses to death as if nothing happenedLel I noticed this too while playing mods that fixes pikemen by making them not able to carry secondary weapons. It just turns them invicible, if you flank them then their formation progressively becomes a pike Schiltron.
>>2467544We *do* add toggles for pretty much anything which is even slightly divisive. See the unit silhouettes / unit indicators for the latest examples.Also thanks for that one unixfag anon who keeps spamming that ooc pic of me saying "game used to be shit" implying the devcucks will drastically change the vision:tm:I was talking about the godawful RTS camera, the random crashes and the unholy lag, not about the gameplay -_- thanks for taking it out of context though
>>2468813>We *do* add toggles for pretty much anything which is even slightly divisive.>"pretty much">"anything that is even slightly divisive"Weasel words. You should add toggles for absolutely anything that deviates from performance improvements and bug fixes. Failing this, have a forked, "vanilla" version of the project. Don't be like those obnoxious faggots that force people to endure their autistic modding vision with altered lighting and mechanic changes that nobody outside of your own personal friend group asked for when all anyone people really wanted was to be able to finally play a bugfixed version of the game that plays well on modern hardware. >that one unixfag anon 4chan is a staunchly pro-Linux website, don't be surprised to see yourself get bagged on for making anti-Linux comments
>>2468823I'm also a fan of not taking literal years to refactor the code and make shit modular and all that faggotry. See shite like Calamity where they've pissed like five years of development away on reworks, resprites, customisation and code cleanliness bs.The bugfixed version which plays well on modern hardware literally exists, download 21/6 or if that's too radical for you, 20/3.But I presume you want *some* features from the newer versions, that's why using the old ones isn't a good substitute.In that case...Re more toggles for any kind of autism: if you care *that* much, contributions welcome. To quote Linus, "Talk is cheap. Show me the code." Crying is free, doing shit isn't>don't be surprised to see yourself get bagged on for making anti-Linux commentsI'm not surprised but I also don't care, just because the anons around here are too autistic not to seethe about someone's personal opinions, that doesn't make any of it my problem. Sounds like a skill issue methinks
>>2468827>make shit modular and all that faggotryStopped reading here
>>2468827>I'm also a fan of not taking literal years to refactor the code and make shit modular and all that faggotry.Then fix the bugs and performance first and release that version before proceeding to alter the gameplay and lighting etc, retard.
>>2468829I don't take "feedback" from tiktok attention span retards, sorry
>>2468830except that this is exactly what we've done, go check out the earlier versions with minimal graphical or gameplay changes, pretty much pure bugfix, uncapping and qolyou're just trying to find a reason to seethe
>>2468832>except that this is exactly what we've done, go check out the earlier versions with minimal graphical or gameplay changes, pretty much pure bugfix, uncapping and qolThere are vanilla bugs left unfixed in those earlier versions. To get the rest of these bugfixes, which are still rolling out, we have to endure features like the awful new lighting system and whatever other gameplay """improvements""" those zoomer minds have concocted.
>>2468831>I don't take "feedback" from tiktok attention span retards, sorryThis coming from the retard that ran back to the hairy brown arms of jeetdows after being filtered by Linux?
>>2468835>There are vanilla bugs left unfixed in those earlier versions.you're literally crying because a completely free hobby project has some changes you don't like, entitled moronI'm the one putting in time in this, not you and since I'm not exactly getting any shekels for this, you have zero stake in this projectfork m2ex and do it yourself or gtfo.>This coming from the retard that ran back to the hairy brown arms of jeetdows after being filtered by Linux?you're being heavily filtered atm by a bunch of game configs LUL
>>2468838>this is exactly what we've done>no it's not, you're still fixing those bugs>...>you're literally crying, entitled moron!Have you not noticed that the feedback section for the project's Discord has been receiving multiple requests for toggles, or the project to be forked, as your changes to the game increase? This is because the members of the server are being very nice about telling you that your changes are bad, retarded and unwanted. You'd have caught onto this if you weren't some zoomer mutt. What were you even fucking thinking with that terrible lighting engine. If people wanted to play RTW but with awful changes to the game, Rome Remastered already exists.
>>2468841yeah, got a few suggestions which effectively boil down to "just maintain two branches of the thing, retard"I'm also not delusional enough to do 2x the work to satisfy some perma crywhores, get a bloody grip, literallyalso the living fuck are you on about the lighting, check the poll in the dc, pretty much no one said it should be scrapped entirely, the overwhelming majority of people said it's good if some fixes are made.The fixes *have* been made and it's been going great, we're getting pretty much nothing but positive feedback except from actual mouthbreathers.
>>2468842>yeah, got a few suggestions which effectively boil down to "just maintain two branches of the thing, retard"Quite a bit more than a few, because the fans have already gone through this with Rome: Remastered. You're pulling the same rubbish of doing things nobody asked for, listening only to yes-men in your Discord circlejerk while ignoring external complaints and dismissing everyone else. To be frank, the people in the Discord are being quite polite about it. You're like Feral right now, when they became convinced that their shite UI was great and that there was no need for a toggle. Obviously, they had plenty of people in their inner circle praising it and ignored all of the dissenting "mouthbreathers".
As long as it's possible to make a mod that undos all the fanmod changes in the future. I've been burned by fanmodders and their retarded game design decisions too many times in all types of games to start a campaign in m2ex/rex and get ganked by a bunch of unwanted changes.The real mystery is why there isn't even more pushback against turning this project into a fanmod.
>>2468844peak nigger behaviormake your own version then, you've got the same tools at your disposal as he does
any news on SEX?
>>2468928
>>2468928rex used as the base as you can tell
>>2468914Did he ever publish source code? or hes still hugging it and pretending its not stolen
>the dev actually went crying to Discord for emotional support, linking to this thread and posting screencapskek, come on mate
>>2466979Sega isn't nearly as retarded as 'Tendo. They might nab the devteam into CA so they make a remastered Medieval 2.
>>2469068if they can't figure out how to make the AI properly and consistently guard their flanks, this will be a waste of time
>>2469070Sega is far more retarded than Nintendo as their involvement in vidya history has proven. These days, they're also engaging in copyright strikes, they just don't create the same buzz as when Nintendo does it. They let fans do as they wish with Sanic since that franchise's reputation could not possibly be worse and it serves as good PR, but when it comes to other franchises like Persona and Yakuza etc they're right on top of things with their legal team.
>>2468842in that case why have a fucking suggestions tab, faggot, if youre not even gonna listen to half the shit posted there, instead only paying attention to yesmen. understand that you lost control over the scope of this project and that not everyone criticising it is a crywhore. get a grip.
>Try M2EX>AI sallies or attacks me>When units rout, they just stand still rather than run away>Kill entire army on map>Victory message doesn't pop up>Exit battle>Heroic victoryUnironically feels more broken than vanilla. Not to mention the "fixed" camera which feels worse than vanilla.
>>2469091never once happened to me
mods that will rely on m2ex: Dark Ages - Roma Delenda EstMachiavello Total Waranything else?
>>2469101for rex there will be fourth age total war and extended cultures
>>2469096>Works on my machine
>>2465871>>Blooddidn it already have this? elaborate.
>>2469127blood pools
>>2469148Not a hater and I love the idea, but they look like shit
>>2469246turn them off then
>>2469246desu all the new graphical stuff looks like shit, even minor things like menu transition fades being gone all adds up and makes the game look dodgy
What did he mean by this?
>>2468842post the source code
>>2469268Is this really a closed-source mod? For what reason? I have never seen a mod along these lines where they didn't make the code public so people could fork it.
>>2469279It's illegal. Dev is from Hubgary and was hoping Orban would protect him, but now that he's gone there is nothing stopping NATO from carpet bombing his house.
It's clear that the dev's design philosophy diverges from what made the original game enjoyable. Feedback is not a reliable way to get your opinions heard, there is too much focus on making the game look pretty while a lot of issues that actually affect core gameplay such as BAI and CAI are left unaddressed or have been altered in ways that have not been made transparent and have had unintended consequences. Not only that, but allowing a bunch of people playing heavily modded campaigns to vote in a poll to decide the direction of the project will result in REX/M2EX becoming exactly that: a fan-mod. It feels as though people who haven't really played the game/don't enjoy it are making changes without regard for all of the downstream effects, and aren't trying to adhere to the original scope of the project. The discord is an echo chamber where you'll be mobbed by yes-men and jannies for expressing dissent. Ironically it's drifting towards becoming a microcosm of CA game development culture and the existing issues within the playerbase.
>>2469260Wow, he's literally retarded.
>>2469349>It feels as though people who haven't really played the game/don't enjoy it are making changes without regard for all of the downstream effectsThat's exactly what it is, see pic >>2467315This project was always planned to be a fan mod that changed the way the game looked and played, it's not like they were hiding it until just now or something
>>2469349How many times do you have to post the same thing?
>>2469385https://arch.b4k.dev/vst/search/text/It%27s%20clear%20that%20the%20dev%27s%20design%20philosophy%20diverges%20from%20what%20made%20the%20original%20game%20enjoyable./
>>2469373"This project aims to *patch* RTW/Medieval 2, with the intent to modernise the game by making it 64-bit with Direct3D 9Ex [now DX11], fixing performance/stability issues, bugs, crashes, patching the hardcoded limitations out, adding features and exposing more data to be modified" =/= a mod.
>>2469402It fucks with game settings so it is a mod.
Why are oldfags itt getting this mad over zoomies doing some changes to their mod?I also saw some getting mad over at TWC for the mod not being CA approved (as if CA cares lmao)
>>2469260>every factions should have every unit typeOh no he is fucking retarded...
>>2469260this is your brain on Shogun 2
>>2469443that entire thread is completely deranged lolmoralfagging about ancient CA games as if they give a fuck is fucking pathetic
It's up.https://github.com/Pannoniae/rex/releases/tag/17%2F08
>>2469443It's that these devs are retarded in the sense that this patch shoudl merely be bug fixes of the OG games plus the x64 bit support for the actual mod teams to implement features. They shouldn't be implemeting OC features with this.If they want mod teams to adopt this, they should keep this as feature light as possible. Or literally just implement toggles for the options.
>>24697051. Project was always made to unfuck the game for players. Modder features are secondary.2. Most things *do* have toggles.3. If we've added toggles for everything including stuffl like DX9 or DX11, development would take ages.4. You can keep saying that we shouldn't implement features, but we will because we can finally implement features modders couldn't before.5. You can use older versions if you want a version with the good performance/x64 but with way fewer changes.6. But no one does this because y'all want *some* things from the newer version. Your ideal goal would be no feature development *at all*, and that would be stupid.>>2468844With your logic nothing would get done.
>>2469705It's not just the mod-fags, I don't play any mods and I can't bring myself to use rex/m2ex because I'm forced to endure their shitty new campaign AI and it's not moddable (I tried replacing their campaign AI file with the vanilla med2 one but no dice).
>>2469715Motherfucker, add features that will help modders by expanding features, not change shit that currently existed outside currently CA bugged issues. Be a base for the modders. Not have modders work around stuff you end up adding. See the Battlefront 2 1.3 unofficial patch.
>>2469715>>2469717Forgot to add: That beind said, excellent work on actually remastering the game. Keep up the good work and the TWCenterfags SEETHING. Will test it this week.
>>2469720Read somewhere too that Gigantus was big mad over M2EX, why though? they invested in EOP?
>>2469717Cheers, but I give way more fucks about the *players* themselves. The modding capabilities are secondary to that.Besides, most of what modders do is just piss themselves and cry instead of using the expanded limits and the modding features because we *have* in fact done quite a few of them already. It doesn't matter though because there's an infinite amount of requests and we don't say yes to every single modding feature they request.>Not have modders work around stuff you end up adding.I don't think the modders can upgrade the game to DX11 or rewrite the rendering&lighting almost completely. Well, they *could* come here and collab + work on engine features too but they don't.I don't see why we should restrict ourselves into being a script expander like SKSE or EOP. That just feels like a very unambitious thing to do. This is more of a community remaster sort of.Scripting *will* be coming but if we focused on that, literally no one would use M2EX whatsoever because there aren't that many modders left anymore, and most of them are using EOP and hate M2EX. You don't try to please people who largely don't like you anyway....sorry for the yap session btw but hope you get the point
>>2469739just post the fucking source code so people can do whatever the fuck they want nigger
>>2469715>y'all
>>2469715>1. Project was always made to unfuck the game for players. Modder features are secondary.Main reason people play medieval 2 still is for the mods.
>>2469739can't you implement EOP in m2ex so the scripts work?
>>2469759the eop guys have strictly forbidden us from doing soyou can draw your own conclusions on what will happen!>>2469744we've already done it if you checked the discord in any capacity>>2469747we're still not gonna work for uncooperative modders, it's very simple. If you work with us we'll help develop features for your mod, if you just want free compatibility (like the BOTET people, SSHIP, Bulat Steel or whatever), they can get fucked
>>2469519>Shogun 2Must be something in the water
>>2469766>we're still not gonna work for uncooperative modders, it's very simple. If you work with us we'll help develop features for your mod, if you just want free compatibility (like the BOTET people, SSHIP, Bulat Steel or whatever), they can get fuckedI got triggered by your wiggerspeak, nothing to do with the project.
>>2469775Are you noticing yet?
The "General" discussion channel on Discord has increasingly become a place for Pannoniae to discuss posts from this very thread that upset him, he even uploads screencaps of specific posts. 4chan is negative and cynical as a general rule, if that bothers you enough to make it a discussion over there, you should probably just stop visiting and allowing yourself to get ragebaited.
>>2469777Wrong reply, soz anon
fix the routing units on sally getting stuck instead of arguing with retards and farming discord points with your trannies
>>2469260Someone fucking FORK IT
I don't want to play vanilla. only he can save us.
>main devs ego is so hurt he has to take screenshots of 4chan to get likes on his discord channelnot a good look at all, for a guy who doesnt care about our opinion, you sure do spend a lot of energy seething about this thread
>>2469766>we've already done it if you checked the discord in any capacityyou lying faggot
>>2469260So should the Aztecs have horsemen? What a fucking retard
>>2469785This faggot is like the EOP trannies only that actually getting shit done. On a bad direction.
>>2469443Beggars mad modders aren't their personal mod maker, many such cases
>>2469868Hey anon, you just got yourself owned
>>2470001>can't even take a proper screenshot and includes an irrelevant postcan he do anything right?
did the m2ex nigger super buff archers? They cut through fully plated, shielded knights like butter
Oh my fucking god, why is this always happening. Back to waiting for M2 remaster.
Anons, has anyone had success im running mods with REX on Linux? Nobody in their shitcord even wants to explain, and the guide provided does not go onto detail.
>>2470030Yep, once you got ut running it ez. -mod:MODNAME in the launch options in whatever way you use to launch REX. Only issue is HDR (if you use that) doesn't seem to play nice on all proton versions, proton-cachyOS works.
>>2470001This is genuinely embarassing. How can the devs continue to behave like that? Do they utterly lack self-awareness.
>>2470033do this instead, that method doesn't load the mod config:@mods\name_of_mod\name_of_file.cfg
>>2465871So installing this is just a drag into med2 folder and replace files?
this is going to end up like the skyrim unofficial patch isn't it?
>>2470060So just add the line to the launch options for REX?
>>2470096like victoria 2 remaster made by that tranny
>>2469766>If you want your mods designed around the vanilla .exe to be compatible with our remaster, get fuckedI hope this is an EOP falseflag, but I think it's very possible that the M2EX/REX devs are this retarded
>>2470096>this is going to end up like the skyrim unofficial patch isn't it?The dealbreaker for me was when there was some disagreement about the quantity or type of ore in one of the mine, so the dev arbitrarily made up and added a new dungeon and crammed it into a corner of the wilderness to be able to shoehorn some more ore in.
>>2470096unofficial patch had a legacy, this will not.
>>2470167he didnt say that
>>2470201>if you just want free compatibility (like the BOTET people, SSHIP, Bulat Steel or whatever), they can get fuckedEach of those mods works through the vanilla kingdoms.exe
>>2470253And this isn't the vanilla kingdoms.exe :)
>>2470253>SSHIPsee>BOTETworks and is practically unplayable without m2ex because of loading times and turn times>Bulat SteelZigger trash last time I played this.
>>2469775That not-tweet is funny because Stalin made several attempts to compromise with fascism and then was rescued by liberals compromising with him.
>>2469775>hii i mostly play random stuff nowadays, enjoy ;)What possesses a man to communicate like a girl on myspace?
>>2470300how unc do you need to be to know how girls communicated on myspace
>>2470386Unc enough to remember when we called transgenders transvestites.
>>2470117Yes, it's the same as vanilla.
>>2470096It's gzdoom, its going to turn into an fps engine.
>>2470258I've got it to work with BOTET by changing the name of M2EX.exe to Medieval2.exe but now light cavalry crashes the game for some reason? And the launcher calls it out as illegal modification (yet it says LAA isn't detected while I can attest it is and otherwise would not work)Other than this it IS certainly an improvement and I wish these bullheaded coders could stop being so prickly with each other, to the corpo's point of view it's all illegal anyway so what gives?
>>2471272most of these modders are lazy faggotsthey'd rather just keep doing whatever they've been doing for the past 5+ years or longeranyway if this project lasts and expands for another year or so they'll probably fold and just start actually supporting it since the advantages are just too big to ignore alongside the jewtubers shilling itas for the EOP clique they'll never give up on their work since it'd mean giving up power over the community and their work down the drain
>>2471272Found out why it wasn't working so I'll post the solution here for whoever wants to try:Added an M2EX.exe shortcut to desktopright click ->propertiesInside the shortcut menu at the voice 'Target:' add after the ...\Medieval II Total War\M2EX.exe" the following string: --io.file_first --features.mod=mods/BOTETv3then apply and close.Had to use chatgpt which had me mess around for an hour before finding this fucking 1 minute fix but whatever. If it works it works.
>>2471313botet includes a simplified .bat file in submod directorycould have just used that
>>2471345Nevermind, light cavalry still crashes the game after loading a save from before this problem...I give up, all code is demon coded by the devil and the only way to save your soul is playing tabletop games in real life.
>>2471384I lied, apparently I am a masochist because I narrowed it down to: armour_ug_models having a value listed as 'null,' which creates a conflict with M2EX.
>>2471345See >>2470060I doubt it will work well though. M2ex jsut doesn't seem compatible with vanilla mods, there are some fixes on discord but I think they don't fully fix them.
>>2471534That... doesn't work? It just opens M2EX vanilla medieval 2 instead.Sorry if I can't quite understand how to format it correctly I've never messed with .exe files before.The path I'm using that at least lets me play the game (besides that hiccup with armour_ug_models) is:"C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Medieval II Total War\M2EX.exe" --io.file_first --features.mod=mods/BOTETv3I removed the '--io.file_first' part and added '/configuration.cfg' at the end after BOTETv3 but it's no go.
>>2471666Remove every parameter and just put that.Should be"C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Medieval II Total War\M2EX.exe" @mods\BOTETv3\configuration.cfg
>>2471718That does look like it should be closer to working (and indeed the loading does reach almost to the end when entering battle) but it still fails, thanks for the help though, maybe I'll keep an eye in the (eugh) discords.
>>2471718Also somehow if I reopen the properties it resets to a truncated: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Medieval II Total War\M2EX.exe"For some god forsaken reasons?
>>2471272I got BOTET to work without issue by making a .bat in my med2 folder with the command@echo offstart "" "%~dp0M2EX.exe" --features.mod=mods/BOTETv3You could also try getting rid of the --io.file_first
>>2471806Thanks for the tip but it still doesn't seem to be able to get around the previous bug with the creatures without riders.Are you running the latest BOTETv3 version?
shogun breh this looks so good >>2471534its strange while M2EX not compatible with many ME2 mods, all Rome mods i have tried is compatible with REX
>>2471830Well, I fixed it by substituting the null files found in 'BOTETv3>data>unit_models>_units':null_diff.texturenull_lod0.meshnull_norm.texture(All three were like 1 or 2KB)with copies (renamed appropriately for the substitution) of the similarly named files found in the 'none' folder (within the same '_units' folder as before).Now mounts only units seemingly work as intended.Will test it out more tomorrow as it's ungodly late here.>>2471838Good to know something actually works!
can I play with EOP mods if I use M2EX? The new camera is so good and the game finally runs well with M2EX. I have a good computer but AGO has insane turn times. Has someone made them work together already?
>>2472306EOP trannies on a suicide watch!
>>2465871Improvements like these and the huge modding scene finally made me I buy both Med2 and Rome after being on the fence for years. Funny how CA think mods and unofficial patches will kill their sales.
>>2472379>Funny how CA think mods and unofficial patches will kill their sales.Uhuh, shame that they actually do pretty much fucking nothing instead. What's up with this blatant lying, you fucking morons? One of the best things a corpo can do, is nothing.Look at Take-Two if you actually want to see a corpo killing mods because of sales.
rome remASStered again but the devs of this project seem to care even less about preserving vanilla it seems
>>2472309Current State EOPfags>The project won't go anywhere!>It's a virus!>It's stealing your data! >It's illegal!>We we won't make EOP compatible!>No you can't integrate EOP into M2EX!>YOU ARE HERE: It doesn't recreate the dev intended experience !
>>2465871Does REX work with that other mod that expands the map & number of settlements?
>>2472505>Uhuh, shame that they actually do pretty much fucking nothing instead. What's up with this blatant lying, you fucking morons? One of the best things a corpo can do, is nothing.It's still a business at the end of the day... bills, mortgages, other expenses...
>>2472669this project was never about preserving vanilla, it was about improving the original games which are clunky, ugly and damn near unplayable by today's standards, if you want vanilla just play the game without the mod installed
>>2465907rise of queatzal i think it's translated from Spanish the text descriptions are a little iffy in some places
>Drive Train System?>Hand Breaks?>Gear shifting?I am sorry, but this just changes the original feeling of the bike.
looks like new release is out
>>2472796how does making the gameplay worst improve the game?
>>2472913boomers hate change because they can no longer keep up with it, it's why they tend to be conservative
>>2472669Nor should they, vanilla is shit.
>>2468954it will never be public because then he would have to admit it is based on leaked/stolen original code and everyone could see all his additions are vibe coded
>>2473207t. Gigantus (Autismus)
>>2469775Holy cringe volound is a vegan?
>>2469785>>2470001why are modders/coders so prone to getting mindbroken by those who disagree with them. The unofficial patch guy from skyrim, the tno devs and many more. ig having the autism to pull of projects like this is a double edged sword. Hopefully the devs stop ragebaiting themselves as the project is looking good.>>2469775>Voloundnigga's probably nearly 40 by now and he is still mindbroken about ca and bad video games, he got left behind and is still wondering why new games are not like those of his childhood.
>>2473261very simple, they get lots of criticism and flaming some of it warranted, some of it isn't and they get burnt out and go schizo
>>2473261Most modders are weirdo drama queen attention whores because praise on the internet is really the only thing you get for it anyway. Normal people don't work for free.
>>2473261Yeah but why are the newer games so bad?
>>2472306:3
>>2473305faggot
>>2472796>this project was never about preserving vanillaCool. Into the trash it goes.
40 Units UI
>>2473835finally I can safely have 50% field arty army compositions.
>total war discord i follow had one of the admins come out and make an announcement to everyone that gigantus lost his mind because of M2EX LMAO, this is funny after seeing this thread. Why is Gigantus losing his mind over this?
>>2474412>LMAO, this is funny after seeing this thread. Why is Gigantus losing his mind over this?Probably because some retarded zoomer with Claude has accomplished in a couple of months more than Gigantus has in over 20 years. The implication is that every mod has to start supporting or be built off of m2ex because of all the restrictions that are being lifted on the engine because of it.And that's even with the m2ex devs going the full retard route of tuning the game to their liking by being amateur game devs instead of the purist route.
>>2474467to be fair its very unlikely he he accomplished that without source code, i have never played a rebuild a classic game which lets you play original game mods with minimal modifications, especially project which seemingly spawned out of nowhere.
>>2474412Post it
>>2474412>I can't cope somebody hand me the ropeimagine wasting decades of your life only to get mogged by AI vibecoding in less than 5 months and moralfagging about a 20+ year old gamethe same goes for the EOP butt buddy group
>>2474412>Why is Gigantus losing his mind over this?isn't he a massive autist whose entire life is total war games
>>2474519he probably should ask for source code and do his own competeing remaster, probably would be better for the project than relaying on this retarded zoomer. Sadly doubt his autism will let him.
>>2474534The best case scenario is one of the old-heads get the source code or have it leaked to them and develop a purist variant.As it stands I've given m2ex two chances and both times I had to quit because of bugs and campaign AI.It's just a zoomer fan-mod at this point. Every AI faction has to zoomzoomzoom, spend all their money, optimize their building paths, run around with doomstacks threatening everyone and everything even royal marriage partners. *even on MEDIUM*.It's just not a recognizable experience compared to the vanilla version and like half the complaints in their discord are "why is the AI so aggressive in my LOTR mod these factions are supposed to be allies".
>>2474549ye, we're definitely not against that, you could very well branch it off the april or june version for a more pure experienceit's only a question of willingness and effort...:)
>>2474553>it's only a question of willingness and effort...and on getting invited to the project
>>2474557that's not a bar whatsoever though.... literally DM me and you shall be
>can finally play Thera without constant crashesIt's so beautiful bros
>>2474412
>>2474573It's sad. The guy probably invested a decade of his life in reverse engineering it, only for all that work to be completely invalidated by a code leak. Even if he could mentally bring himself to abandon it and start over with the source code, you can never be sure CA won't go after people if the project gains more traction.
>>2474412Anyone involved in modding ancient Total War titles has autism as a hard requirement. The dev of M2EX came in here and legit sperged out on some ragebaiters and started posting screenshots and linking to the thread in his Discord server for moral support instead of just doing the normal thing and ignoring.
>>2474573LEL
>>2474467That probably would be pretty demoralising. Guy works a really long time to try and reverse-engineer a game he loves as a genuine passion project and then some tranny discord zoomers who think the game is shit get ahold of some leaked code and vibecode something that everyone immediately starts basing their mods around. If I was him, I'd just accept the reality of the situation and start doing a similar thing with the leaked code and make a purist version since there's definitely an audience for it and the M2EX team has no interest in keeping it close to vanilla.
>>2474693how was the source code leaked and how come only that one zoomer has access to the leak?
>>2474746Nice try, CA
>>2474412Gigantus always seemed like a chill nice guy to me. Also is he a pajeet?
>>2474693Are you sure the m2ex guy is videcoding? His GitHub seems like something a legit dev would know
>>2475049He might not be, he criticized Linux for being vibecoded here: >>2467532
>>2475062>>2475049
>>2474603>could have ended up being one of the biggest breakthroughs in modding history>instead is going to be a self-righteous slapfight between senile boomers and zoomer troonsWhat a world, huh?
>>2475286Maybe in RTW/M2TW history. This is just some zoomers having Claude interpret some stolen/leaked source code so they can update these old games to suit their modern tastes. Right now they’re working on adding UI bloat
>>2475289>Right now they’re working on adding UI bloatIt's interesting to see how they're making many of the same decisions CA themselves made to torpedo their franchise.
>>2475333you don't need them in rome, but med 2 has horrible visibilityyou can't tell your units apart and from the enemy (or the terrain) unless you spam highlight button
>>2475333M2EX's goal is "making the game feel modern", so it's obvious that'll share the same issues as Nu-TW in the long run.
>>2467532he has started welcoming those rainbow flags and trannies in the server, on top of removing messages for "wrongthink"expect the project to collapse in 2-3 months
>>2475333you can turn it off
>>2475333>>2475374It's turned off by default.
>>2474693>>2475049if you faggots think it's so simple and easy go boot up claude or some shit and code it yourself, but you won't, can only complain while not doing shit yourselves, people are so entitled in this community, the only thing I want is for M2EX to stay close to vanilla style, especially graphics wise and lighting
>>2475509>whinge whinge whinge bitch bitch moan stop hurting my feefees Shut the fuck up already and get back to work you sniveling little retard.
>>2475509>go boot up claude or some shit and code it yourselflol, lmao even
Why didn't the dev(s) just make engine improvements and then made all the gameplay and visual changes into tag on features that are toggle-able? The current setup feels like a mismatch of different opinionated stuff that are toggle-able only sometimes. Feels kind of bad to play and just makes me switch back to the og
why isn't this open source?
>>2475658The github will probably be killed for hosting the source code of the game
>>2475650>trusting a dev that hasn't even played the original game to make decisions in line with the og fanbase
>>2475673then why didn't an OG pick the project up already or take it over or something
>>2475682because it is easier to whine than to do something productive
>>2475333>unit icons on battlefield were the downfall of total warYou retards always pick on the most random shit. You could've asked for the code, forked it and made your precious vanilla crap instead of crying and bitching here for the past three months.It's literally just removing the things you don't like from the current version and you can have your dream version done in a week.
>>2475731Most people here are probably codelets
>>2475682Most of the OGs have moved on from the game and have no interest in returning. They're married with families or just had their fill of the series. You need to hope for some elusive NEET zoomer who likes the old games just as they were, except for the bugs.
>>2475658It uses stolen/leaked code instead of being a decomp or something like that
People crying about changes are as bad as forum troons. Let them cook, just what pann and team have done have accomplished so much. I'm hoping they can get 40 unit armies and massive numbers of troops on the field.
>>2475957>I'm hoping they can get 40 unit armies and massive numbers of troops on the field.this is coming soon I assume, they seem to be almost done with the new UI to support it
>>2475957does people not liking your mod make you seethe so much you have to samefag?
>>2476088why does a mod make you so angry that you keep spamming a thread with 10 posters every day for the past two months?
>>2476092That is my first post? Are you schizo posting now?
>>2476094Everyone who disagrees with me is just one person, it's easier that way
>>2476094>>2476097samefag
this cuntass has little kids as admins, loves being edgy and ignoring actual bugs, talks about child porn and shares his weakass opinions and pics of this thread so other pedophiles, nazis and retards from his group can stroke his dick and egofuckass cunt hasn't even played the game until recently from what I have seen, hilarious
The discord is just a place for 15 or so pedos whose peak of humour is saying "hitler good jew bad" in different variants to stroke their dicks in a circlejerk, many people left, most people mute the server and just grab the files.More and more I am finding out how idiotic and buggy this project is and switching back to vanilla, every release brings so many fucking bugs even when called stable and removes features that worked in vanilla for no reason.
don't forget the polack pedo powertripper caligula who is 40 in a team with 15.20 year olds or so and regularly messages kids who say they are under 15 with sexual remarks and shit
>>2476468>>2476473>>2476475take your meds
>>2476468>>2476473>>2476475EOP lost, get over it
>>2476484go suck panno dick retard glazer
>>2476488i didn't say I like EOP, that is even worse lmfao, does nothing important and brings crashesFaggots appearing, your master must have shared this on Discord again huh :*
from the hidden developer only chatroom btw
https://steamcommunity.com/id/WW2AND1/one of the pedos leading the projectThe steam profile says everything. Lolicon, SS uniform child girl, living on steam. I'm out. Don't forget to post it on your discord for the 5 cocksuckers that idolize you :* gn bby
>>2476519nigga wtf is this resolution/text you literally stitched this shit together in paint NET calm down
>>2476532yeah no shit I hat to put it into paint to crop it pedo retard. Gn, may you get prostate and bone cancer and enjoy it my pookie :* mwahAlso share this on discord of course for cock kisses and affirmation that you are better cause you need it babygirl
>>2476537dude i'm not the dev, you're just super mentally illmaybe try doing a normal screenshot at least or learn to inspect element instead of paint editing those picsgoddamn I can't believe how immature and cringe this community is with this drama bullshit for a game that's supposedly mostly played by uncs
>SAAR DO NOT REDEEM THE M2EX
>>2475660Github is full of 100s of decompiles and more are dropping every day, none of them.have been taken down yet.
>>2476473Wtf I love panno now, I thought he was a tranny jew, but maybe he's a baed tranny jew.
>>2476468>>2476473>pedos and nazis are bad nowsure is summer in here
>crying about loli and pedoshitfucking worthless redditor/normgroid subhumans need to fuck off already, alongside the tradcath larper zoomersthese people are a plaguealso you have a guy crying about trannies being welcomed and now he's a nazi? pick your narrative
>>2476746I don't even think Reddit knows or cares about any of this discord drama, a quick internet search reveals that they also love the mod and generally agree with the dev team's opinion that the original games were too outdated to be enjoyable these days
improved graphics from the dev diary channel (avert your eyes boomers)
>>2476806this is Barbarian Empires, not vanilla lol
>>2476806muh maniples
>>2476809looks loads better than vanilla, very nice lighting
>>2476809looks like RR too.
>>2476733this isnt a decompile though
>>2476733https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean-room_designThose decomps that stay up do this to avoid legal issues. REX and M2EX are directly using stolen source code.
>>2476860>REX and M2EX are directly using stolen source code.Oh my god. The humanity...
>>2476871nobody on 4chan legitimately cares about the legality of it, it's just the best reason the code is not hosted to github, CA would be all over it with their legal team
>>2476860That's wrong. Clean room approach is something like openmw or gemrb, not 1 to 1 decompiles.You don't if it's a stolen code.
>>2476860Whats the issue with source code for a game that ran on windows XP? Is there something CA wanted to do with decades old code?
>>2476806this looks awful
>>2476921take off the nostalgia goggles it looks way better than shitty 2004 graphics with fucked shadows
>>2476931>shitty bright lighting is actually good!eat shit faggot
>>2476921not any worse than originals, lmao
Ok so even if it did use the source code. Why would I give a shit?
>>2476960i'd give a shit actuallyi'd give such a big shit *rages into Floki viking rage* SO MUCH SHIT LET'S RAID FRIENDS!*starts putting his erect viking cock onto your M2EX bussy*FEEL THE WRATH OF GIGANTASS, M2EX ZOOMIE!*he pushes in....**you moan...**and love it...**pushes out...**smashes his mighty German Viking Gigant Ass dick on your bussy causing it to fart continuously, the whole EULA*You are Gigantass' whore now...And you love it...You accept the EULA...And delete the github, mod files and your Discord...You hold hands with Gigantass and feel at peace.All is well.
>>2476975I kneel
>>2476931dont play with yourself pann. you are a soulless faggot with no sense of aesthetics
>>2476910M2ex/rex is only a positive for ca. It's dependency on both rome remastered (to get og rome) and med 2 not only increases their sales, they could easily roll m2ex ( and rex if they ever plan on updating the remaster again)into a potential med 2 remaster if they wanted for very little extra cost, plus ca allowing these projects for old ass game helps their shitty pr
What's with M2Ex/REX triggering boomers and making them simp for a shitty bong company?
>>2477043>triggering boomersMust be pretty hard for them to spend 10-20+ year modding only to get dumpstered by some zoomie in a few months
Finally.https://www.moddb.com/mods/tamriel-enhanced/downloads/tamriel-enhanced-v11a-m2ex-patch
>>2477043I was pro m2ex until he insulted the honor of GNU/linux.
>- Allied AI armies in the same alliance now deploy as one combined force when Shared Deployment is on, instead of each lining up separately in its own deployment area. (RTW/M2TW)
>>2477079>army replenishmentWhat's wrong with zoomers?
>>2477132AGO also has global recruitment
>>2477143You mean EUR, or did AGO also add it recently?
>>2477132i can assure you I'll never add replenishmentfagging to rex or m2ex vanillathose modders are basedbrained as usual....
>>2477043Boomers are conservatives who hate change, the fact that this project is changing some shitty old elements for the better makes them freak out
>>2477232>shitty old elementssuch as?
>>2477246The graphics and UI are in desperate need of modernisation, the AI is idiotic, the advisor system is clunky, etc. Anyone who just wanted this to be a pure bugfix project is insane, these games simply do not hold up as they were even when ignoring the bugs.
who /genocide/ here?
>>2477260>AI is idioticfixing that is part of bugfixing, acceptable>the advisor systemgets turned off by everyone after no more than 5 hours of playtime it really that isn't that hard of a game to grasp that you need "advising" after your first campaign>UI is in desperate need of modernisation you look at this right now and tell me it's betterthis project NEEDS a branch that doesn't have the UI and graphics touched because I need to see some proof of concept of what exactly "modernized" UI is to youif it's this absolute mobile game tier SLOP that is modern TW UI then I am very much losing faith in you zoomersit does NOT need any more clutter, I don't need to see the unit class above every single unit's heads
>>2477288nobody cares homo
>>2477290you cared enough to reply
>>2477288How about you stop bitching and stick to the originals, or make a branch yourself. Most people love what the project is doing, you're in the minority of crotchety old boomers afraid of change
>>2477288>gets turned off by everyone after no more than 5 hours of playtime>it really that isn't that hard of a game to grasp that you need "advising" after your first campaignThis was my mistake btw, I meant to type agent system, not advisor.
>>2477294I like the concept a lot but I have some criticisms so of course I resign myself to have 100% of it all hand waved away amd deflected as just being absolutely nothing but a boomer afraid of change, I guessI view time as a resource and there are better places to spend resources than trying to reinvent the wheelit's mostly the arrogance of stating how much the gane doesn't hold up when there are aspects of RTW/M2TW that modern Total Wars got straight up worse at doing>>2477296agent spam is annoying but here too there are aspects that hold up better than modern TWactually having a unit to open diplomacy than just a "diplomacy button" is superiorprincesses I suppose aren't entirely necessary3KTW's system of having characters function as both generals and agents is also a good system but it would need to be done specifically how 3KTW pulled it off than a title like the Total Warhammers
>>2477300>I like the concept a lotThe concept was always to update and modernise RTW and M2TW. It was never to just fix bugs and improve performance. You and some others on this shithole website have had the wrong idea about what it's meant to be. Funny how you all regularly insult Discord users, but none of them seem confused about the basics of this project.
>>2477307>pisscordthey're insulted for good reason
>>2477317Yet 4chan consistently proves to be more whiny, uncivil and retarded than anyone in the Discord
>>2477318yeah it's easy to think your circlejerk is the best circlejerk everpisscord groups manage to be even bigger echo chambers than leddit
>>2477279how did the four soldiers die
>>2477328you'd drop dead from exhaustion too if you had to cut down 42.9 million people
>weekend>no seething about M2EXreally makes you think
With Interpol now involved, it's a matter of time before the thieves are tracked down and arrested.Don't keep your hands on the stolen source code. It is now an albatross around your neck.
>>2478403Thanks for the warning. I saved the code in multiple locations so that the work can continue if globohomo strikes this community update down.
>>2478428upload the code on one of the decentralized gits like radicle or nostrgit
Played a tsardoms campagin with M2EX,most fun ive had with this game in a long time. All the whining and nagging be it from autists like gigantus or boomer purist retards seems incredible petty and envious.
>>2478514>>2478403>>2478428you niggers dont realise that if the m2ex faggots upload the src then the development is torched
>>2478537Nobody is lookong at those decentralized gits, nobody would notice.
>>2478396>>2478396There's really nothing more to say, people voiced their complaints, the devs said they aren't forking the project or changing direction to keep mechanics and graphics etc vanilla, so it's an exhausted topic
>>2478537so the m2ex faggots don't upload it, some random guy not associated with the team somehow obtains it and uploads it
>>2478535did you encounter any bugs?
>>2478535Boomers don't want to admit that the games were actually pretty shit before this project came along to fix all the QoL stuff, the nostalgia is too strong
>>2478603This is an inversion of the truth. So many of these shitty modder fan fiction projects would be beloved if all they were was “the original game, but with bug fixes and performance improvements and optional QoL features”. But invariably the modders can’t stay in their lane and start fucking with shit and attempting to fundamentally remake the game according to a completely different vision.
>>2478625REX & M2EX 19/04 says hi. Has the 64-bit, the save corruption fix, the alt-tab fix and a few modding additions, and barely any vanilla changes.What more do you want?
>>2478633Do you have any plans on restoring the menu fades/transitions that an anon mentioned in another thread? It's not a huge thing but the game feels kind of cheap without them
>>2478625>So many of these shitty modder fan fiction projects would be beloved if all they were was “the original game, but with bug fixes and performance improvements and optional QoL features”. name 5
>>2478633were all vanilla engine bugs for Rome 1 and Med 2 fixed by the 19/04 version?
>>2478712>he wants bug fixesvanilla or bust, retard
>>2478718better not even use 19/04, it has performance improvements not in vanilla
active poll in the Discord, vote 1 or 3 to make nostalgiaboomers seethe
>>2478728bigger roadmap, including limited diplomats and this >>2478648
>>2478728why make the poll in the circlejerk and not on twitter?
>>2469508Yes.Enforced imbalances are retarded. Historical rosters are only accurate if you are following a roughly semi-historical expansion path. A successful nation will have access to better technology and equipment and adapt their doctrine accordingly. Additional roster unlocks should be tied to owning specific settlements.
>>2478843there is nothing ahistorical about certain factions lacking more advanced versions of units that other factions might specialize in, not to mention it differentiates the factions, makes the campaign more dynamic (player needs to think about who they are strong/weak against) and gives the game replay value...
>>2478866only if you want to play history out 1:1 which is boring afare yall seriously the same faggots as the people who liked eu4 mission trees for KAWNTENT
>>2478701>name 5This thread's mod (fan mod)Dawn of War: Definitive Edition (commercial)Diablo 2: Resurrected (commercial)Vampire the Masquerade: Redemption, Age of Redemption (fan mod)Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines, unofficial patch (fan mod)Skyrim unofficial patch (fan mod)Baldur's Gate 1 / Baldur's Gate 2 / Icewind Dale 1 "enhanced editions" (commercial, counting these as one, same devs)Icewind Dale 2, "enhanced edition" (fan mod)Temple of Elemental Evil, Council of Eight modpack (fan mod)This is off the top of my head in about 30 seconds, one could surely compile a more laborious list
>>2478633does that one have the pike, two-hander, gunpowder, and crossbowmen on a wall bug fixes?
>>2478866There is a lot ahistorical about a nation that completely lacks a historically important technology or doctrine that never developed it in the time frame because they were poor/small/too far away/never encountered them in large numbers still deciding it will ignore everything different while running across the entirety of Europe meeting all of those things while owning historically important or rich cities.I'm not saying just give everything to everyone automatically. I'm saying hey maybe owning important settlements from other nations will let yours figure out how some things they didn't have access to originally work.
>>2478922On that note, it's stupid that there are factions that have temples exclusive to them. The Greek City States and Macedon for example should both have access to all Greek temples in the game. Same with the Roman houses and Roman temples.
>>2478905its a formula that has always existed in TW for each faction to have a specialty while having a weakness to balance them out, it doesn't need to nor can it possibly adhere to history 1:1. if you are seriously advocating for every faction to essentially be a reskin then you are hopeless
>>2478922the only faction that should have vardariotai are the byzantines. the only faction that should have janissaries are the turks. the only faction that should have longbowmen is britain, etc. anyone new to the med2 who captures constantinople and gets access to vards or cataphracts while playing as someone else is not going to want to ever try a campaign as byzantium because you've flattened the difference between the two
>>2478952good to know that old TW players are no less retarded than nuTW players"I play the game as a checklist like a good goy"
thank god fan-modders aren't game-devs
>>2475336How? Can't you see the banners? >>2475731>ask me for my AI slop codeNo thanks, zoomtroon.
>>2478952>the only faction that should have vardariotai are the byzantines. the only faction that should have janissaries are the turks. the only faction that should have longbowmen is britain, etc.Special ethnic units should be recruitable if you capture that part of the world. Just like the Byzantines recruited the Vardariotai from the steppe nomad part of their empire and Turks recruited janissaries from newly occupied parts of their empire. If some other kingdom occupied England then the new rulers would raise longbowmen there too because the knowledge and logistics already exist. >anyone new to the med2 who captures constantinople and gets access to vards or cataphracts while playing as someone else is not going to want to ever try a campaign as byzantium because you've flattened the difference between the two It should be a shittier version to maintain the original faction's merit, and more costly to prevent special unit spam. But it should be available so that historically disparate shitty factions can "catch up" if they become ahistorically successful.
>>2479213>No thanks, zoomtroon.thanks for confirming you're a lazy retard then
>>2479220Thats already in the game, its the merc system. If you just want to let any faction spam out the same OP units go play Starcraft 2.
>>2479239never beating the nuTW allegations
>>2479252The fuck does that mean?
>>2479239>merc systemfunctions nothing like that.>any faction spam out the same OP units Can you actually not read or are you just pretending because you're a perma butthurt loser?
Why is it so hard for 4channers to understand that this is not a fucking vanilla preservation project, it never advertised itself that way at any point, and never will. It was made to improve the games, to build on them, not preserve them. You are legitimately dumber than the "discord zoomer trannies" you pretend to be better than, since nobody in the Discord server has a problem understanding this. The original games are very flawed, and were in desperate need of updating. That's the point. If you don't like it, you can very easily just play vanilla.
>>2479331Hi can i get engine extension mod hold the bad balance changes?
>>2479074it's called faction identity. in what world are you in a position to speak on old TW vs nuTW? you're a newgen who no longer even tries to hide his lack of respect for the source material.you obviously suffer from a terminal case of warhammer brain which interprets unique faction rosters as "muh missing content", probably because your nonexistent attention span can't fathom the idea of trying multiple campaigns to get a varied experience each time, or advocating for adding bloat in name of "unit diversity". and yet you try and disassociate yourself from "nuTW", nigger you ARE nuTW. enjoy playing your reskin garbage
>>2479331I have no problem with changing the vanilla, some of the changes seem bizarre to me still.
>>2479331>4channersback to discord with you child
>>2479823this, we're 4channelers!
Status on Gigantus?
>>2479301Merc system doesnt let you get units outside your regular roster? Even if its a worse verison of the unique unit it would still be OP.
>>2479849gossip threads go here: >>>/lgbt/
>>2479331spoken like a true discord tranny
>>2479849still melting down on steam forums as of yesterday
>both projects are manned by mentally ill discord tranniesYeah I'll stick with vanilla
>>2480537Not quite. REX/M2EX is manned by autistic zoomer discord trannies, EOP is manned by autistic boomers who still use message boards
>>2480537Any good mods you like? Theres like 2 mods i like. Most of the vanilla plus mods are slow and the different regions or time mods are cool if youre from there.
