https://www.paradoxinteractive.com/our-games/canyouguesspdxWhat new terrible game will PDX create?
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>>2471028Time for stellaris 2 lads But make it super autistic and not video gamey
Elflaris time?Also, Johan's in Spain.
Yeah fantasy seems like a good bet. Seems dumb though - CK already has a ton of mods for that shit.Things I hope for though:1)Earth vs Mars sorta deal, like Total Recall. Maybe include other solar system stuff like ceres, rings of saturn2)Megacorp Cyberpunk game where you run a corp and have to deal with other corps. Like Syndicate or something set in the Android universe, only you are CEO of Weyland or Jinteki.3)A “modern day” GSG, but set during the apocalypse as described by Revelation.
>>2471065>actually pay attention to the screen>stop trying to discern whatever that is on the right, that looks like remains of a ship>there are glaring building ruins, buried in the sand to the leftPost apocalypse GSG? Might be neat.
>>2471045I could totally see them doing a D&D game, forgotten realms probably
>>2471051I want stellaris 2 with significantly more depth to the differences between planets but with still simple if not simpler planet managment
>>2471077>shipI think it's a tent
>>2471028its going to be a ripoff of anbennar mark my words
Imperator: Rome 2
>>2471028Hopefully a game like Hyenas, where Paradox wastes millions of dollars and finally this sorry company of Swedes can fold faster.
>>2471065>fantasyExpect it to be generic and soulless procgen slop like Stellaris.>Earth vs Mars, other solar system stuffSolar Nations 2 (solo dev btw) already does this and is mogging the fuck out of most Paradox games.
Imperator Rome II with proper genocides so I can remove P*nics
>>2471028HOI5. It's gonna be a flop
>>2471134Hearts of iron 5 this soon wouldn't make sense because just a few days ago they were talking about making a big effort to optimize the games multithreading to better benefit from modern CPUs, why bother to do that when you could put those optimizations in a new game instead
>>2471028fantasy universalis
>>2471167but they totally missed the chance for success. this should have been done a few years ago, instead of crap like Imperator Rome or Victoria 3. players have already burned out their desire for this kind of stuff on Anbennar or Eldar Kings
>>2471102I fucking wish. Imperator today is a more decent game than EUV, Victoria 3 and CK3 combined.
It's going to be EU5 (this time for real)
It's DUNC
>>2471028Dan lind is the director, so it will suck
>>2471239That's a disaster I would want to see unfold
>>2471028I hate johan god damn I hate johaneverything he touches turns to shit
>>2471281You hate yourself
come on, it should be fucking obvious by now
>>2471204redpill me on playing imperator in 2026I haven't touched it since it came out
>>2471149EU6 then? Anon has the right idea, eu5 was a failure so we need a new game quick. >>2471225
>>2471750don't, it's a fucking meme of a gameEven the Invicta mod can't salvage that abandonware
whatever it is, it's in relation to this thingeither that, or israel has paid johann billions to make anti-persia property where you get to march through the desert as alexander on your quest to babylon
>>2471766If they make Stellaris 2 I really fucking hope they have more of a plan this time around, especially considering late game performance.Delusional hope I know.Stellaris updates felt schizophrenic like they made a different game each time with the same tech.I guess there's room for Anbennar the game.There are loads of ck2 and eu4 mods for fantasy gsg, but you can do a lot more if they build the game with that in mind from the ground up.I'm less interested in that though, I want a smaller scale for fantasy strategy, like age of wonders(which they own) or master of magic where I control units instead of armies. On a big scale like a grand strategy I guess there's potential for a lot of world altering spells, like terraforming, shifting mountains and such for a desired game, but they don't really build their games like that, it would like just change provicnes terrain modifier from hills to mountains which would give +10% attrition or whatever. Scifi, but planet bound like AtE, or solar system bound, scifi like stellaris, but a smaller scale could also be a thing.
>>2471789>IfStop. It has already been denied.
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/changing-of-the-guard-community-team-update.1719719/page-2#post-30056721It is not HoI5. It is not Cold War. It is not Stellaris 2.
what would you want in a fantasy gsg besides pops (for fantasy genocide) and mana (for literal magic)
It's slop like Milennia and Cities: Skylines II. No big project until HoI V.
>>2471103Investors matter more than customers, hyenas having the good sense to not release saved them from most of the damageBut then the knock on effect of our next game has to sell amazingly to please Sega themselves means they have to chase short term profits with long term damage in making total warhammer 40k on console
>>2471088>forgotten realms probablyCome to think of it a big advantage of doing d&d is that it's multiple settings, they can sell expansions based on the different settings, can't do that when it's set on earth (beyond extending some borders I guess) or in a randomly generated galaxy
>>2471789>solar system boundYou're just stepping on total warhammer 40ks toes there aren't you?
>>2471805Different fantasy races (for sex)
Reminder Johan unironically believes pic related
Stellaris and EU5 both made cryptic twitter posts that seemed to point towards something post apoc
>>2471922I DON'T WANT TO SET THE WORLD ON FIRE
AoW Planetfall 2
>>2471926Oh please no god no
>>2471870There's no 40k grand strategy game, also a 40k game would be better suited to be bound by the galaxy not just the solar system.
>>2471088>>2471868I did always wanna play a ck2 mod of faerun, but whenever I looked at that project it looked unfinished
Are we categorizing their games into generation?Because their latest gen games are shit, I think CK3 is the only one that has a bigger playerbase than its predecessor.
>>2471884Low moral pirates...
>>2471922Stellaris>Commanders!>It seems the Nomads have encountered something unexpected.along with a video of a ship explodinghttps://x.com/StellarisGame/status/2090061284259639797EU>The sky has darkened. An age of ash is brewing on the horizon. video of some city walls with crumbling statues outside and the byantium crown laying on the groundhttps://x.com/E_Universalis/status/2090423900421128400HOI>Generals! >The world stands at a turning pointvideo of ships and planes attacking new york city while a voiceover says the mighty have fallenhttps://x.com/HOI_Game/status/2090725695466942636
>>2471884>people who think differently to me are pedophileswhat a trailblazer
>>2471958in terms of qualityck2>Ck3eu5>eu4
>>2471884I immensely regret buying EUV, specially after pirating the release version and playing it for 20+ hours.From now on I will only play the pirated version and all it's retarded DLC for free.
>>2471028Fantasy gsg set in the Pathfinder universe.Or HOI5.
>>2471134Stellaris 2 but without purging and slaves since those are problematic.
>>2471028face of a pedophile
>>2471998My money was previously on d&d but pathfinder might actually make more sense, so many stories of Hasbro being a nightmare to work withbut then is it worth dealing with how they gutted the setting to remove slavery when the main antagonist nation is so heavily defined by itas for HOI5>>2471149
>mass manufactured machete with a cloth wrapso post apoc trash.
>>2471028Dune?
It's going to be a standalone After the End clone based off of EU5 :^)
>>2472028Dang, I heard there was a machete added but I thought maybe it was a more common sword people were wrongly calling one, yep, post apoc
Post apoc fusion of CK3/EUV/HoI4
>>2472065damn, a fusion paradox's worst games
my guess is it'll be a bit like stellaris where you have your start being how your people survived the apoc a 1:1 of stellaris orgins. Then you also have scenarios where the maps is either random or based on real world or something. Could be cool but will probably be aids.
>>2472078Real world postapoc gsg would be pretty interesting.
>>2471028Surviving Mars 2
>>2472084in case you don't know, there's a ck2 mod for ithttps://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/After_the_End
>>2472103AtE is post-post apocalypse, though.
>>2472156damn, I guess you're right
>>2472156post-post apoc is still technically post-apoc
First teaser shows desert.> IT WILL BE POSTAPO!!!!!!Second teaser shows crown and castle> IT WILL BE AFTER THE END!!!!!Third teaser shows fall of New York>...
>>2472193new york is in after the end, retard
>>2471958If you think Vicky 2 has a bigger playerbase than Vicky 3 you're retarded.
>>2472028
>>2472214Yes, sure, but not when Germans attack it with Messerschmitts
>>2471978CK2 is better than CK3EU3 is better than EU4EU3 is better than EU5Hoi3 is better than Hoi4Vicky 2 is better than everything they've ever made.
>>2472244>EU3 is better than EU5You have never played EU3.
>>2472247I have more hours in EU3 than you have on this Earth, zoomer.
>>2472250Zoomers are turning 30, time to pick another target to hate, grandy
>>2472244Seethe harder.
>>2472193crown and castle and new york teasers are for EUV and HoI4, not for the new game. all we have for the new game is the slowly expanding video
>>2472156Isn't that what >>2472078 was suggesting anyway
>>2472193There was a stellaris teaser between the website and the EU one
>>2472372those teasers are using other games for the new game
>>2471766That unannounced historical GSG part is unnecessary. What are they trying to do here?
>>2472078another thought would be you pick an origin and a apoc cause and then a world. Would give it a lot of replay value assuming game isn't complete rubbish. So you could do vault dwellers as your origin and then apoc was caused by zombie apoc or nuclear war or some rubbish and earth as the planet.
>>2472392potential workers might not apply thinking they don't know enough about history, or you can filter out people who only care about drawing history
>>2472395that could be cool actually, and you can be more generous with base mechanics by basing your DLC around adding new origins and apocs
>>2472422Nah, it's probably more to do with the fact that their teams are segregated and dedicated to single games, more or less.
>>2471028They're not in a desperate enough position to hit the CK but fantasy red button yet. It's probably post apocalyptic earth.
>>2472460Stellaris but mad max
>>2472460Wouldn't the emergency button be vicky but fantasy
>>2472522Anon medieval fantasy has been the hottest media genre for over a decade now. Modern fantasy basically doesn't exist in comparison.
>>2472523I was thinking more in terms of mechanics
East vs West welcome back
>>2472244>CK2 is better than CK3I can only speak about this pairing, since I don't play other gsg map painters, but I would say it's a sidegrade. CK3 has some things I like that CK2 didn't have, but it also lacks others or changed things up a way I don't care for. But I got burned by playing too much CK2 that I don't really care to play either at this point.
>>2472538same tbqhbut what I do wish CK3 had from CK2 (and actually, I wish every paradox game had from CK2) is CK2's location-based tech progress. it's a lot more realistic than "unlock tech, your whole country now has it"tech isn't just discovering X thing, it's also building up the knowledge and skill base in the local population
>>2472530The Vicky series, both 2 and 3, have always been their least popular.
>>2471028>>2472028I don't think it's post-apo. I posted this in the other thread but there is some kind of ship/skeleton in the corner. Doesn't seem like anything native to earth.
>>2472598I think it's a tent, but i'm also not totally on board with post apoc either, all sorts of not exactly historical blades can exist in a fantasy setting
>>2472603If you zoom all the way out on the page there is a second structure beneath the first. I think these are fantasy creature skeletons (dragons?) but honestly I can't really tell. Leaning more towards post-apo fantasy now but as you said it could go either way
>original screenshotI tried editing the image to make it clearer >>2472606 but I might have made it worse kek
>>2472607One last thing in the top left corner there is some kind of structure that doesn't look natural/is reminiscent of Stonehenge. I tried taking screenshots but it's blurry as fuck with the sand effects so you guys will have to take a look yourselves
>>2471028>>2472609>fully zoomed out picture
>>2472610>modern machete>skyscrapers covered in sand>random wreckageso modern post apoc sloppa?
>>2471975Vicky>Victorians!>Prosperity may be built to last. The ground beneath it has other ideas. video of what I assume is an area of the vicky 3 map suffering an earthquake, seems to be some smoke or something that might tie into the smoke in the EU onehttps://x.com/PDXVictoria/status/2091148400750113275
>>2472598postapo can have monsters
it looks like a cold war game
Please don't be post apoc slop
>>2472597They dropped the ball with Vicky 3 because they removed war so not even Vicky 2 players are playing it.
>>2472993Good. Insufferable faggots the whole lot of them.Loud, too. Even if there's, like a hundred of them.>inb4 muh vague definitely numerous non-Steam numbers
https://career.paradoxplaza.com/jobs/7570700-experienced-3d-artist-unannounced-game-projecthttps://career.paradoxplaza.com/jobs/6337465-content-designer-unannounced-gamehttps://career.paradoxplaza.com/jobs/6871282-gameplay-programmer-unannounced-grand-strategyA couple of old job listings from the pdx site. The descriptions are still visible if you check the page source.>We are in development of a brand new non-historical game led by veterans from several of our previous titles such as Hearts of Iron 4 and Crusader Kings 3, going all the way back to Europa Universalis 3.tldr: it's probably not historical, it's probably an original IP, it might be steampunk, fantasy or post apoc going off the descriptions
What is the end game of a post apocalyptic earth grand strategy game? What is the plausible timeline?
>>2472993It's still way more popular than Vicky 2 though.
>>2473011a second apocalypse
>>2473011probably something like fallout where the endgame is building a water purifier
>>2473011Alien invasion late game disaster, probably.It'll be like Stellaris, where it's randomly generated, and the content of the game is to gather every single post-apoc work into one big ball.
it's gonna be a Dune based 4x
Ignoring the morons who can't read, what compels people to call something "slop"? Rationalizing pirating it? Pretending they're not excited?
>>2473015>It's still way more popular than a 15 year old indie game though.That's not saying much.
>>2473034>shit and fard all over /vst/ for literal years over how much better V2 is compared to V3>the numbers don't agree>"That's not saying much."Cope.
>>2473040>>shit and fard all over /vst/ for literal years over how much better V2 is compared to V3That's not me though.>>the numbers don't agreeThis doesn't matter at all, going by the numbers Roblox is the greatest game in human history with Minecraft a close second.
>>2473041>That's not me though.Here's a list of all the people that believe you:>>>All Liqqy faggots are the exact same.
>>2472610What retards are calling that thing a spaceship. You can see its size compared to the machete, it’s pretty small for sure a monsters skull
>>2473076Me anon I couldn't tell through the sand but I changed my mind fairly quickly >>2472606
>>2473015That's solely because it was released at a time when Paradox had higher public penetration.
>>2471028The real Vic3
>>2472606Hey you know what franchise has dragon skulls in it and has a popular mod they could make standalone
God. I hope it's a dinosaur-centric gsg.>I'm not seeing it, retar-stfu and feel it
I thought they would have updated the picture again by now
>>2473153>>2472606>>2472610Kek I wouldn't play it but it would be funny. Also on reflection and looking at the full size image again I might be retarded. I think the second 'structure'/object below the first skull/skeleton is just a group of rocks
>What is emerging from the ashes?
>>2473269>>What is emerging from the ashes?Paradox
>>2473283they're diving head first into them, not emerging
Think we might be getting a Fallout GSG?
>>2473295Not really. What makes you guess fallout?
>>2473296I just randomly remembered a Fallout mod dor HOI2, and both the HOI4 and Vicky3 posts were from the USA. Could be interesting if they got a licence.
>>2473300Doubt it, they'd have plastered every teaser with 50s music related to nuclear power and would have MS/Bethesda copyright notices on the page too
whatever it is, i surely won't be able to meet the system requirements to play it
>>2473325I got off the waitfag train last year, you missed your station.
>>2473148Vicky 2 is my favourite paradox game but it's always been niche among niche, even at the time no one fucking played it compared to the rest of the catalogue, I don't know why you faggots are pretending like it was some sleeper hit.
Its obviousIMPERVTOR ROME 2!!!!
fantasoys will be sent flying by apocalypsechadstrust the plan
>>2473295I think we will get NotFallout so Paradox doesn't have to fuck around with license holder, put up with their autism and share profitsModders will make a Fallout mod for free anyway, Paradox will reap the profits of that without lifting a finger
>>2473388>>2472610>>2472028Can't wait for both of you to be blown the fuck out when it turns out to be a cold war game.Let me dream, god damn it.cancellation of EvW worst day of my life
>>2473403Anon>We are in development of a brand new non-historical game
>>2473403Why would there be skyscrapers buried in sand for a cold war game?
>>2473403not gonna happen, it could make for an interesting GSG but Paradox explicitly said it was a non-historical game
>>2473405All Paradox games are non-historical once you unpause :^)
>>2473403>>2473155Are you casting spells trying to affect reality? What is this retardation?
>>2473403>>2473408After playing HoI I realized that I simply don't like it's format with being so focused on WW2 in particular. Which means you fight a war with no care for what will happen after the war since it's functionally unplayable. Winning WW2 in HoI feels empty for me for this same reason, I don't really care for my victories or loses during it, I won't experience their resultsI would enjoy much more a game where WW2 is merely an early game and later parts are a Cold War. With world situation depending on your choices during the war, how much destruction you caused, which lands you conquered and now have to govern etc. That would be a much cooler game for me
>>2473411We're getting a dino-cold war game and you can cry about it. You pinko-trannysaurus are just mad you lost.
>>2473417I breathe the same air as these knuckledraggers.
>>2473412I wouldn't ever want a game combining WW2 and the Cold War. Cold war game in my opinion should start January 1st, 1950. That way all the countries people would want to play (Koreas, Israel/Palestine, East/West Germany, North/South Vietnam, PRC/Taiwan) would already be established without having to go through an annoying occupation period/war minigame every time.
>>2473421All the cope in the world won't stop it. Your options are accept it and make peace with it or continue malding.
>>2473417Don´t be stupid anon. It´s clearly going to be post-apocalyptic game...with dinos now roaming all over the world!
>>2473427I hope it breathes fire.
the upcoming Paradox Game is called Afterworld!it's post-apocalypticscreencap this faggots, I'll eat my shoes if I'm wrong
>>2473483>Afterworld
>>2473483>>2473492haha updooted bwos!!!
>>2473492That's not how that looks.
>>2473498What do you mean? Are you some kind of retard?https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/featured
holy shit guys, johan has gone insane
>>2473525based department.
>>2473525>>2473492was the intern taken behind the studio and shot?
>>2473531I think they threw them to the local somalis to "use"
>>2473492>2026 and they are still reworking systems for Victoria 3Is this what Paradox games are nowadays? Infinite reworking of mechanics while selling 30€ DLCs with scarce content? Last time I checked they are reworking the USA in HoI 4, for a second time.
>>2473539Reason EU5 can have more content on release than EU4 was because most DLC was reworks.
>>2473543But EUV does not have more content than EUIV.
>>24735480/8 b8
>>2473550Do you have anything to back up your claim?
>>2473555https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/tinto-flavour-47-29th-of-october-2025-content-is-king.1864982/
>>2471051only if they could write a thorough design document that everyone agrees on this time
>>2473557Wow, events, disasters and situations (wich are just events + decisions put together, and don't really work).How is Eranshahr? Or the Angevin Empire? Is Japan playable yet?
>>2473563>i-i-it's not REAL content!>b-because I SAID SOOkay, retard. There are plenty of shit meme formables.
>>2473567I accept your concession.
>>2473568Consneed.
>>2473570Are you retarded by chance?
>>2473571No. But you are. Not that you'd know that, nigger dumbfuck.
>>2473573Bro you are crying and seething. Hope you are ok.
>>2473336>you missed your station;_;
>>2473617Is that MATLAB but you don’t know to set the Y axis to start at zero? What the fuck man
>>2473269It's over, all last copium of not being post apoc is gonethe repeated mention of ash though, maybe it's magical ash of some sort
>>2473403Tragic that '83 turned out such a disaster
>>2473405there are rumors saying 2 gamesbut there are also rumors saying that if there are 2 games the historical one is china>>2473408did they say this thing they are teasing is non historical or just that they are working on one
>>2473438Wait a second, post post post apoc with dinosaurs describes the setting of Dragon Ball, are we getting a dragon ball grand strategy set during the post apoc or post post apoc segment
>>2473412I don't think you can really make a game that would neatly transition to cold war. Like there's no way to set up that kind of outcome organically and the second part would have very different mechanics.Like how do you make the player not achieve maximalist victory objectives without heavily railroading it. What's stopping the player from operation unthinkable? Soviets rolling germany all the way to france before allies get around to do normandy, GroBgermanium? Though i guess the last one is the most plausible gamey scenario even if it's retarded because maybe you could more easily set up the game mechanics to stop invasion of mainland USA.
>>2473700You could always develop two completely different games, and do save imports. No, that's stupid.Maybe a little choose your own adventure minigame before starting the Cold War proper. No, that would still cause butthurt among alt-history chumps. Alt-history is dumb, implausible and fun. Right up until it is THEIR alt-history, then it's serious fucking business and review bombings start.
>>2473700>>2473720You go full retard and either try to make the AI actually good at the game (fat chance) or B, use events to rope the shattered remains outside your empire post ww2 into your new opposing superpower
>Post apocalyptic GSG by Paradox>Story revolves around how evil white people destroyed the heckerino civilization with the evil global warming>And how the beautiful survivors from Wakanda are trying to rebuild a better society because they are so noble and in tune with natureThe sad thing is that I'm just shitposting and yet this will probably be the premise
>>2473689All the ash mentions are actually references to Red MountainIt's a Morrowind based game where you take control over one of the great houses (including the Tribe Unmourned)
Sad they havent updated the picture.
>>2473828Yeah I was expecting that to happen more frequently after they did it the first timeMaybe they've given up now that it leaked
>>2473806rent free
>post apocalyptic slopFantasybros...
>>2473926>fantasyslopwhy did people think paradox would want to make a game directly competing with AoW4 that you just know would just be relentlessly shat upon for not being as good as Anbennar/Elder Kings and flop harder than Imperator
So what was the announcement? Nothing but generally indicating that the next game would be post apocalyptic?
>>2473949Reveal is during the Gamescom opening night stream
Leaked description, surprise it haven't been posted yet.
>>2473971everyone stopped caring once it was confirm post apocaslop
>>2473971>9k alertsGod damn bro
>>2474013it sickens me to see people unable or unwilling to clear their unread notifications or emails.
You can already see the planned DLC:>LARP as Romans lulz>LARP as edgy metal suit men LOL>don't sue us Todd lmaoWill bomb worse than even Imperator, because Fallout autists only like their one specific flavor of LARPing.
>>2474013>>2474046blame discord for defaulting notifications to every message sent on a server and making it a pain in the ass to change
>>2474098>making it a pain in the ass to change>open server>tap the name>tap notifications>'Only @mentions'gee that was tough
Can't wait for the soundtrack. Unironically.
>>2474090>Will bomb worse than even Imperator, because Fallout autists only like their one specific flavor of LARPing.They will just mod it to match, the same way Star Trek and Star Wars fags do with Stellaris or Fallout fags already do with HoI4.
>>2471028Now that they made a game to rip off OWB and After The End and other post-apo mods, what's next? Original Paradox fantasy EU4?
>>2474110I tried doing a custom game of Stellaris where every faction was one of the human factions from SMaC except the game treated all the different instances of human as a different race, RIP
>>2474189I always wanted for Stellaris to have a more indepth world generation for this reason. So I could pick between for an example:>some 40k/stargate scenario where humans/your species spread around galaxy already and you rediscover worlds>some horror style AvP world where galaxy is mostly dead and what lives are just nightmares>space opera, but without furfags>scenario where galaxy is in postapo state or with raging war in heaven already because reasonsstuff like this
>>2474196That would require a completely separate rewrite of events, their chains, precursors, etc. etc.Good luck telling Paradox you'd pay money for custom scenarios. We can't even get them to do alt-history railroading for hoI4.
>>2474200Hoi4 already has way too much alt history. The DLCs are chock full of it. That shit belongs in a mod, not the base game.
>>2474204I'm talking about Historical Focuses button. It's way too random, if you ever turn it off, but setting stuff yourself disables achievements.
So this will just be a grabbag of tropes from the Netflix slop trough, right? TLOU, Fallout, Walking Dead, Furiosa, etc.I hope we get a guest appearance from Paradox's newest Senior Content Designer, Pacifica, to provide xis/xer expertise in this genre. Maybe even a Pink Panzer guest appearance for a Story Pack DLC, all for the low low price of $30.
>>2474206Post-apoc media existed before Netflix, dumbshit.
>>2474189It's actually possible to do but the race needs to have exact same traits, name and everything. Safest bet is to just copy one and just change government. Some governments are special (Hive Mind) and won't work.
>>2474206It will be Kenshi 3
>>2473971These minimalist white-on-primary-colour icons are making my eyes glaze over>>2474209I don't think anon expects it to reference tits & rape (Mad Max, old) but female power & respectful males (Mad Max, new)
>>2474300>hm why doesn't this publicly traded company fill its games with graphic rape scenes????>uhhhhh woke mind virus????????????????????????I swear you're the dumbest fucking retard I've seen in weeks.
>>2474105Probably tough if you're in a hundred different servers like some discordfags seem to be
>>2474204Heaven forbid people want to change history in their change history game
>>2474315Warner is publicly traded and they still had the joker get raped
>>2474209>>2474315You're the Victoria 3 retard, aren't you?
Please be post apoc slop
>>2474209>>2474300The development happened during the peak of 20s post-apocslop. Anything referencing 90s Fallout and Mad Max will be token, at best, and refiltered through whatever was already filtered for the modern Paradox audience by Fallout/TLOU/Furiosa. Practically a given there will be a Sunset Invasion/endgame crisis which is just zombiesThe character focus of recent Stellaris DLC (where you have a Paragon who gives you quests), Victoria 3's historical figures, and CK3 all indicate a push towards more character-driven RPG elements in a strategy game, especially since all this launched during the likely development window of this game. That all dovetails with "it's your favorite streaming slop in a strategy game!!!" To try and go for another CK2 tier hit which captures the retards.As for actual patrician post-apoc stuff? Like Canticle to Leibowitz, Dying Earth, Book of the New Sun, and I am Legend? Likely only easter eggs.
The word "slop" has got to be the worst thing that happened to internet discourse, and the best thing, since it allows to easily spot fuckwits.
>>2474336It's been a thing here for 15+ years newfaggot the only reason it's everywhere now is because normgroids like yourself love taking our lingo and beating it to deatg
>>2474341Idiotic historic revisionism to anyone who actually was here for that long. i.e. me
>>2474344Take a look at the archives retard people have been using 'slop' and 'goyslop' since like 2013. Stop larping as an oldfag and become an hero
>>2474346>Take a look at the archives retard people have been using 'slop' and 'goyslop' since like 2013. Stop larping as an oldfag and become an heroYou're a lying faggot. I just checked multiple archives and there's not a single usage of "goyslop" prior to November 2019.
>>2474357/pol/niggers don't have the brains to be able to keep track of time. And forgets that the rest of 4chan still fucking hates them.
>>2474359>>2474357Sure I'll grant you goyslop is only a decade old and not more. What about slop anon? You left out half the equation
>>2474365Damn, you're bad at math.
>>2474371Colloquial decade, 8 years is close enough. Notice you didn't check for slop because I'm right and either way whether it's 8 years or 13 the point stands. Now fuck off you smarmy cunt
>>2471028Looks like it's going to be a clone of the Old World Blues mod for HOI 4.I am not a fan of putting women into men's roles but Doki Doki as a faction was boss. Dagoth Ur was also a leader. Still waiting on storage of templates and colors in HoI 4 so I am going to let the game release and see how it does. OWB has heart, even if it leaned into high fantasy for many of its factions.A Judge Dredd or Wasteland apoc world would be good for the genre. I am tired of the tropes and the fanboys who tell me I must like it.I really just want Fallout Tactics 2/X Com or Kenshi 2.
>>2474359seething at pol is a sign of newfaggotry lol
>>2471028If I hadn't been sleeping so horrribly the last few days I might have stayed up for this
>>2474381Slop is just an English word, of course you can find it going back to the beginning but the current usage of it as a buzzword is what's being talked about, which is only around as old as goyslop since it's just a derivative of it.>>2474402/pol/ is newfag central, as evidenced by both it and 4chan having grown massively in the years since 2015, disproportionately to the other boards. Every braindead rightist and edgy brown teenager on the internet flocked to /pol/.
>>2474421>braindead rightists>brown as a perjorativeMake up your mind, my guy.
>>2474441I'm not using it as a pejorative, it's just important to remember that many of these people are themselves brown as it helps demonstrate the inherent contradictions in their ideology.
they've got a drone now
>>2474448it's actually an after the end clone lmaohttps://archive.ph/2026.08.25-084427/https://www.pcgamer.com/games/strategy/paradoxs-next-grand-strategy-game-is-taking-cues-from-fallout-and-mad-max/
>>2474449>north americalet me guess, inevitable rest of the world DLCs, like how CK3 gained most of East Asia?I'm interested in Eurasia because of the geography and also because Russoids are insane.
>>2474463they didn't have many european post apoc stories to steal from so they needed more time to work on that
>>2474421>which is only around as old as goyslopYou've never heard things like 'low-effort slop' on /a/ or what have you before then? I'm willing to be wrong on this but I'm fairly certain slop in the way its used nowadays predates goyslop by a fair bit>/pol/ is newfag centralNo arguments here, 2016 and it's consequences have been a disaster for the site as a whole although tbf klondike bots and miggers probably make the majority of the population now
>>2474449>>2474463>not only is it post apocslop but also slop that only takes place in muttistanBeyond grim
>>2474479To be fair, a post-apocalyptic America would be generally less brown, ironically. If you saw how blapipo reacted to Hurricane Katrina, imagine how the ones that survived countervalue nuclear strikes hitting the big cities would react to the apocalypse.
>>2474480Yeah but right now I have no reason to play this for example over Infection Free Zone.
I couldn't care less about North America, I honestly don't get the appeal at all as a non-American.
>>2474485It's got great geography.
>>2474480it is still the most boring setting possible thoughbeit
>>2474486He is a retard and I agree with you, but you can use that argument with many places, even the desert can be interesting in some cases.
>>2474479>>2474523>no south american post-apo centered on the atacama desertWould be way more kino and just as interesting geographically speaking
>>2474526I'd dig some Mesoamerican kino.
I can't wait for the:>Government remnant dlc>Company dlc>Vault dlc
>>2474465https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmG7xxdPUxk
>>2474530Would be cool if by example Mexico got completely taken over by the cartels and end up looking like this. I imagine death cults appearing and spreading.
>>2474551paradox having little to no familiarity with Mexico would be a bonus here too. I'm sure all the After the End discord fags will be seething if paradox ever touches it, since it won't be in line with their boring chungus spiclarp
>>2474485ANOTHER TEN BILLION TO AMERICAN REVOLUTIONARY WAR AND CIVIL WAR GAMES
>>2474589Are there even any of those compared to castleslop and ww2slop?
>>2474542>Vault dlcThat’s base game apparently
>>2474586What about Cuba or the Carribean? What about Hawaii? What about Guam? Puerto Rico? Greenland?
>>2473021>the content of the game is to gather every single post-apoc work into one big ball.Like Cataclysm:DDA but a grand strategy?
>>2474315The original Mad Maxes didn't have graphic (or any depicted, only implied) rape but they had naked tits (like most adult movies teens saw at the time) and stock footage of people being killed in war/lying dead in the intro reel.I've never gone to see the modern ones because I kept hearing they did what every other movie and media has done of late.To mention a contradiction in cinema, Judge Dredd 2012 is nothing but graphic scenes of ultragore, includes on screen rape, and what could be considered the most real usage of the word emasculation. It also had a female main character (Dredd is actually a supporting character), women in (every) position of power, the villainess has fun losing, and there is American style race commentary but from the mouth of someone who isn't American (so wasn't strictly adhering to modern canon, such as not directly critiquing policing, not claiming crime is the state's fault at every opportunity, and not having the villainess actually win or be redeemed or treated as a hero, amongst other things though most of which came later than its immediately-after-2008 development period). Why the then owners of Dredd (2000ad?) would want to associate with that I don't know, like you say about associating with the original Mad Max not being a family friendly product.But of course you're just pretending to not understand and reducing your argument to>yeah but stuff back then was ugly and racistand will likely, when pressed, simply say>current IP was always progressive, just look at the gays in Mad Max 2, that's definitely the same as what we're doing today and I definitely saw Mad Max 2 and I definitely saw Furiosaand we'll never get to talking about how new Paraslop is just another choose-your-own-adventure book, or visual novel with event popup spam, and curious politics that changes per decade, such that the Marxist of the 2000s is the fascist of the 2020s, and the political spectrum is no broader than Mao's little red book.
>>2474545Isn't pretty much the entire world fine in metro lore and it's just the area around moscow that's fucked up
>>2474627>Why the then owners of Dredd (2000ad?)Oh and to add to this, Stellaris, from 2016, has an explicit cribbing of Dredd with the police state civic and the justice buildings. Like how it later just added Nurgle from 40K to its Warp from 40K. They even took the Golden Throne from 40K. Honestly surprised they didn't take more stuff from Star Trek but you can't expect modern """nerd""" culture to, y'know, watch holy grails from the past, especially given how Star Trek at one point was both racist and supremacist, even TNG is probably evil nowadays because an old white man was in charge, women had sex, and the science wasn't based on feelings (it was, but not today's feelings).Creative people tend to do more than just rename things, such as draw pretty art, and given Paradox creates text adventures, they need to actually write things to be different. But they don't. We'll never talk about that with you. It'll just be reduced to "Ur anti-woke dum poo poo head orange man bad!"
>>2474627Now that you mention Judge Dredd, I wonder if we can recreate the Dredd universe in any capacity?
>>2474551>Sinaloa cartel>isn't dominant in Sinaloawhat did they mean by this
>>2474633meds
>>2474463>game starts with north america>runs somewhat smoothly until the year 2300, "but that's okay, no-one plays paradox games to the end date">two dlcs later>speed 5 in 2220 is speed 0.5 in 2200 startdate>new dlc announced: "And now the map size has been trebled to include Latinx America, Africa, and Greenland! All for free!!! Except special mechanics will require paid DLC">game literally won't load>>2474480>a post-apocalyptic America would be generally less brownIf you play Fallout 76, you'll struggle to find many white named characters, and white males tend to have a heavy accent, being either Russian or GermanParadox isn't realistic. They bring forth the world they want in fiction, in the hope it becomes reality.As they're Swedes they'll focus more on women and Afros and less on the inter-ethnic American quibbles, such as German hangups, The Souf Will Rise Again, Asians vs Afros, or Africans vs Black Americans.
>>2474625Well, not turn based.
LMAO no gameplay
I would have rather seen post-apocalyptic Europe
>>2474551>>2474586Paradox is NOT putting in Death cults and Cartels in Mexico and you damn well know it.Even if it makes sense it's just not worth the risk of controversy.
Heh. I was hoping for Fantasy Stelaris; it would be a natural addition to their catalog. But no, which of the idiots in their management decided that Age of Wonders 4 would be their main fantasy strategy game, because it was one of the few modern products that was successful? None of these idiots asked if it actually served that purpose given the genre, because GSG isn't 4X, but then again, they don't play their own games.
>>2474778This entire game is a gigantic minefield and there will be more controversies then any other Paradox game. Past games had "it's historically accurate" or "it's ayys" to fall back on, but this game doesn't.>current ethnic composition is entirely white>inevitable patch to correct this will overcorrect and end up 50%+ niggers and the rest la 56% creaturas>mod to correct this patch will get banned from Workshop (then get reuploaded as a mod which does the same thing but no one notices because it's called "Ethnic Diversity")>Neo-Confederacy LARP mods getting deleted>Wakanda LARP mods getting deleted>Can't touch on any prominent American cultural/social/racial themes without controversy
>>2474813>current ethnic composition is entirely white
>>2474817That's considered an aryan SS supersoldier in America
>>2474813>>inevitable patch to correct this will overcorrect and end up 50%+ niggers and the rest la 56% creaturasIf it's set in the future that's not really unrealistic.
did they even give a hint of the year? or is this going to be 2028?
>>2474817vgh, my A10 hyperborean descendants...
raugh at those who thought it was not post-apocaslop
>>2473403DELET THIS
>>2474817>Carthagevileabominablekill them all
>>2474719It's a gsg.What gameplay do you expect?It would be just menus anyway.
I love how my independent European studio makes a game entirely centered geographically in an openly hostile and adversarial foreign power and also inspired by the slop fiction of said foreign powerThere is not even a mention of Europe, for all we know the USA is the only surviving country, truly a Nordic/Germanic European wet dream, to die and be forgotten so their masters can live
Funny seeing the "cuckfully disagree" Paradox forums descending into bigger political shitflinging than this board lol.
>>2471028Game looks fairly uninspired to be desu. Like they asked a marketing research firm or LLM "what would be a cool setting for a strategy game" and it spit out cyber mad max set in post apoc USA. When people were speculating it would be DUNC I was disappointed since I don't really care for that setting but honestly DUNC seems like an upgrade to this. Or maybe they just saw that OWB was one of the most popular mods for HOI4 and figured they'd make something similar even if they couldn't get the rights to Fallout.When I first saw the desert setting I was somewhat hoping for an early bronze-age gsg.>>2474898>openly hostile and adversarial foreign poweryuropoors are utterly histrionic but I guess that's to be expected from a thoroughly feminized society.In your countries Russia is regularly conducting acts of sabotage, muslims are raping your women and trying to institute sharia, and your leaders are selling out to China who wants to become the next world hegemon yet you act like America is the big bad despite relying on us for the past half century just because our president make a shitposty remark about invading Greenland since NATO countries aren't taking their defense seriously.
>>2474921podcat said he came up with the concept in 2012:>I have been wanting to make a post apocalyptic game for ages and I think I wrote the first drafts for Afterworld somewhere back in 2012 - in fact I am surprised people didn't figure out what I was doing earlier (I even told you 5 years ago in an interview haha). I think the setting is a perfect mix of the procedural sides of Stellaris and the historical sides of our other games - it’s a world you know and are familiar with, but changed, twisted, and with interesting lore to discover and learn about. I have also wanted to work on something a bit darker and grittier that explores humans in extreme situations - which is a perfect fit for the apocalypse.
>>2474921The USA's intelligence agencies got caught red handed supporting immigration in Europe though, don't be naive, a multicultural Europe is something your country has pushed for behind the scenes for a century And Russia has never demanded territory from an EU country
>>2474921>haha, your society is gay, feminist, indian and occupied by american armies and capital!Yes. We know what you did to it. We live here.
>>2474918What you mean?
>>2474817>whiteIsla's head, if reskinned to black, would make more sense, especially with the dreads. Sincerely the way it pinches in, the nose is spread, and her jaw juts forwards, especially when stood next to Luke...>>2474765>high vis vest tribeOh boy.>chairmanBit transphobic to call out Riley like that.Are the outfits there unisex? Miles is showing a lot of chest. Paradox has some terrible character designers. They're all so uncanny. I wish you could disable them in Vick3
>Afterworld's dynamic Ideas Tree unlocks new advances based on what you actually find and experience. Encounter a river and learn irrigation. Meet a new tribe and discover organized religion. Your actions shape what your society can become.huh that actually sounds really cool, although the idea of forgetting organized religion seems a little silly
>>2474463I reckon it would be interesting if the other continent DLCs gave the option for standalone, if you don't intend to travel to the Americas you can save on performancewait what the fuck>north americawhy not south america as well
>>2474598no, yuros are just hilariously provincial and incurious about anything outside their hobbit museum lands, while also simultaneously dunning-kruger considering themselves experts on american politics and culture
>>2475086Dont take it personally its all Americans that are cultureless parasites not just the USAI went to Argentina once and the locals showed me "a breathtaking historical site" and it was the ruins of a church from 800 years after the notre dame de Paris was finished and of course built entirely by Europeans
>>2475299Not relevant enough
>Lead a tribe of survivors, rediscover ancient technology, manage wasteland settlements and wage wars of conquest and political struggle in Afterworld, an original post-apocalyptic survival grand strategy game from Paradox Development Studio, the creators of Crusader Kings III and Hearts of Iron IV.It's over. Paradox has spoken. Cicky3 and goy4 are their best games.
>>2475299please be troll, those old jesuit missions and reductions in the middle of nowhere in South America are cool as fuckmaybe the insufferable porteños in buenos aires would be more your speed
>>2475078They are saving it for the religion DLC, duh.
>>2474817>POV: you live in Portland and just got asked to join a polycule
>>2475966one concern people seem to be having with the game is all the religions shown so far are new religions, no hint of existing ones
>>2471028>people bitch and whine about eu5 lacking flavor>make a brand new grandstrategy in original settingit looks borderline ai generated
>no federal government there to force whites and blacks to live together>they all do for some reasoni guess we just wait for stellaris 2
>>2476083>Borderline
>>2475078>although the idea of forgetting organized religion seems a little sillySillier than Americans, especially those educated in bunkers with the sum of the world's knowledge in a computer, forgetting what bears are called so asking a chinaman to tell them it's called a "Yao Guai" and forgetting what cows are called so name them after a random foreign caste name... but that thing with claws which kills people? That almost no-one's ever seen before? Oh we'll name that something sensible and everyone will know its name
>>2476162Computers in fallout are 80s IBM garbage, nobody is learning shit from reading logs
Imagine being EVEN more pozzed out than CK3 AtE Fan Fork lul
>>2476190
I have 90% of CK3 DLCsI have 100% of EUV DLCsI have 100% of EUIV DLCsI have most Stellaris DLCsI have I:R with some DLCsI have an active HoI4 SubscriptionI also have Victoria 3 with 90% of DLCs(maybe I have them all, idk, too bored to check)Do i need one more paradox game? What do you think
>>2476180There are super computers with human and above human intelligence.
>>2476215Yes but the average terminal is a shitbox with a couple files
>>2476217still better than windows 11
>>2476203Did you like Victoria 3?
>>2476203Good goy!
>>2476491keep scamming old ladies rajesh and maybe you'll be able to afford some dlc too
>>2476203Fuck you are cuck
>>2476491>>2476784If you avoided playing Paradox games entirely, you'd be able to look like anything other than seething poors.
>>2476778I say this every day: thank you for not making me a goy, thank you for not making me a slave, thank you for not making me a woman.
