looks like scripted premade maps and no fog of war. Little to no replayablity.

I was hyped but now I'm gonna wait.

>>2474895
>no fog of war
and thats a good thing

>>2474888
Man this woulda sold well if you were rebels or empire and not random LARPers.

>>2474888
Are you excited to be non binary trannies and explore transness and queerness in your epic nu wars adventure? I'm not!

loved nu-xcom so i will buy this like a sucka

first opinions. Not into an actual game yet.

>char creation is heavily woke, no white male presets though hawk does default to a white male.
>only body type 1-2 for gender
>only 1-2 face types are actually masculine, the rest are el goblino tier ugly or female.
>can only select from premade faces, no in depth customization
>armor appears cosmetic only
>no custom jedi

considering a refund before the 2 hours are up, seriously.

>>2476417
OK but how is the gameplay?

>>2474888
seems ok

>>2476419
only done the tutorial right now but it seems very much like x-com which is not surprising.

>>2476426
That's good. Pretty much what I was hoping for.

>>2476430

some things different from modern x-com.

>3 actions per turn instead of 2
>moving is not based on a grid system but does snap to cover.
>it shows you what targets can be seen/fired at and the chances to hit in movement mode
>overwatch is by cone instead of entire line of sight.

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>>2474888
how does it compare to Jagged Alliance 3

>cant make a hot twi'lek
its over

>>2476439
i had a lot of fun with that one, pretty good game

soooo no Action Points?

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runs like shit apparently

you can run just as far in 2/3 moves per turn as you can with 60 time units.

>bu-but I have to end my turn where I shot instead of being able to duck back behind cover
have you ever thought of not being a gay little pussy and just standing out there like a real man?
plus there's always some perk that lets you move after shooting

>>2476505
Noticed a couple glitches like units gliding instead of walking and my performance is good but I'm on a decent rig and running at 1080p.

Does this game have a proper campaign or is this over in 12 hours with no replayability?

>>2476611
supposedly there's roughly 30 hours of missions but so far they are all very heavily scripted. Either kill all enemies, or collect item and exfiltrate while infinite enemies spawn. Maps are tiny too and not much room to do stuff.

>>2476658
That sounds worrying, people on the Steam forums compared it to Chimera Squad.

>nu-disney dialog and characters
>diversity out of the ass
>gameplay is xcom but worse on every aspect
sad

Oh and the main character gets referred to as they and their (possessive). We all know its because they were to cheap to have the VAs record too different lines for he/she but it also doubles as wokeslop.

Lots of negative reviews about performance. That's a big shame.

>>2476693
>We all know its because they were to cheap to have the VAs record too different lines for he/she
This was never a problem for any RPG game, but suddenly it is for a fucking star wars licensed game?
It's a very conscious and deliberate decision to explore transness and queerness instead of making it a normal game for normal people. It being cheaper to produce is just an extra cherry on top.

I'm playing on hard iron mam, it is way too easy.

this game has absolutely zero polish that makes XCOM standout so well among the crowd

>so far all the main villains are Indians
Kek

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Alright, everyone owes me 100 Separatist scalps. Clanker head units also accepted.

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>>2476500
3AP/turn
>>2476417
All the human options besides default male Hawks suck, cannot make a QT but you can be an ayylmao. I didn't try a Twilek female, maybe they look better than the human female goblins.
However, male Hawks VA being southern fried is pretty good. Cast is doing a good job from what I have heard.

Annoyed they force you to get a guy killed like an idiot in the tutorial. Ultra settings sc as a reference for those interested

>>2476851
x-com staple at this point. the first mission in EU had the entire squad save one get killed.

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Just installed the pirated game. Gotta say, regardless of what the actual game is like, it's winning some points with me for including a clear visual example here instead of just presenting me with some basic options and having me guess about how they're being implemented.

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>>2476869
rip never forget

>>2476851
>I didn't try a Twilek female, maybe they look better than the human female goblins.
I didn't see all the options but from what little i saw its " wide jaw black woman (forma de twilek) so not any better.

I'm still early in the game but so far there seems to be very little tactics involved, just blasting to destroy cover then killing the exposed enemies. Humanoids are unrealistically durable and only the b1 droids go down with one hit. This goes for your people as well as they can shrug off a lot of damage and have to be brought down 3 times in order to die permanently. Maps are very small and there's hardly enough room to flank enemies.

>>2476919
sounds like a cross between chimera squad and nuxcom

>>2474888
Utter shit.
4 character limit was an obvious red flag.
Literally chimera squad tier garbage

>>2477033
this guy gets it

>>2476768
>IT'S IRON MA'AM!!!

>>2476851
>TPS movement outside combat
Fucking why?

>>2477051
pad things out and makes people think the 'game' is larger than it is. These combat maps are fucking tiny.

I played like 25min and refunded. Game def feels like a torrent kind of game rather than a buy.

>>2476851
>Annoyed they force you to get a guy killed like an idiot in the tutorial
He had death flags on him since he appears

Okay there's a bit of difficulty when you reach the level where you meet the jedi, surprised me. I fully admit I am ass at TBS though.

>>2477051
Because walking through a hallway for 5 minutes, following quest markers that are spaced 10 feet in between, before being allowed to start a battle is "immersive".
Seriously though, why are there so many fucking quest markers just to show you the way through empty linear corridors? It feels like a parody.

>>2476963
It's a cross between Chimera Squad and Midnight Suns, complete with a shitty hub level where you can walk around in third person and talk to your Glup Shittos in between missions.

>>2477051
Instead of ant farm, this does Mass Effect at your base

I'm really enjoying the game so far. Not much technical issues too. I'm starting to wonder if people just want to hate the game.

>>2477198
I don't hate it (well story I don't like) but xcom 2 with star wars skin mods just plays much better than this game and I already owned that.

>>2477198
The game is fun but its overpriced, its a 30, maybe 40 dollar game, not a 50 dollar game.

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I've had a revelation.

Unlike other games like Starfield, the reason most of the faces are ugly isn't because the devs are just bad at their job, it's because by design almost none of the face models are made for the default white skin and hair settings. Trying to make a white character using a African, Indian or Chinese face model is why you end up with ugly characters.

Picture related, it's the exact same face (Face 11), first with the default settings and then with more appropriate settings. You go from the ugliest white dude you've ever seen to just an average black guy.

Do you gain something for risking it and killing more enemeis before escaping to the extracting point? XP or something or are rewards fixed?

>>2477218
Rewards are fixed.

Does the game give "aim bonuses on miss" on all difficulties except Expert/Legend like in XCOM 2?

Its always nice to have a modern turn based game that isnt high fantasy. Sick and tired of the Orcs&Elves&Sorcery crap. Also it has no unnecessary lewd shit so thats a plus (it keeps the coomers away).

>>2477392
xcom 2, civ7, xenonauts 2, menace, battle brothers, wasteland 3 etc. I could go on, but you are just being a little faggot.
>ooo there aren't any fucking games
When there are fucking loads.

>>2477446
nta but can you give full list? I only played nucom, bb and dd

>>2477460
off the top of my head theres wartales, dice gambit, crown wars. the warhammer games mechanicus and chaos gate, troubleshooter, phantom doctrine, phoenix point, warhounds. a shitload more if you include jrpg-type turn-based tactics, like fell seal, symphony of war, valkyria chronicles

>>2477446
Yeah but you haven't have a big title for quite a while. Theres always some shit but its usually low budget.

>>2477502
big name TBS is shit because it has to be dumbed down for the normies.

From what ive seen ill pick the game up when it first goes on sale. 50 is a bit much but still looks fun.

>>2477392
>modern turn based game that isnt high fantasy.
Related to that, is there one that is set in a historical medieval setting? No elves, orcs or magic. But just historical knights and whatnot.

>>2477460
What aspect do you like most? I'll try and come up with a tailored list when I wake up.

For the people that played it. Is there a class that just isnt good for your character to take?

>>2477504
Field of Glory II: Medieval is turn-based tactical but it's a pure wargame with no economy and basebuilding.
Wartales has a magic-free medieval type setting with no monsters aside from some undead. The Expedition games (Conquistador, Viking, Rome) have historical settings. Crown Wars: The Black Prince is set in the Hundred Years war, King Arthur: A Knights Tale is set in Arthurian England and Dice Gambit's setting is inspired by Renaissance Italy but these games are full of fantasy and magic.

>>2477517
Yeah thats the thing I dislike with having a main character, if a class is shit you just remove your buddy with that class, but what if you mistakenly chose that for your mc?
Guess they cant comprehend people wanting to play with unknown dudes, people must have a character to "be inmersed in"
That being said if its similar to xcom I dont see anything bad outside of the recon looking like a late game class if hp scales with time and sharpsooters ultimate being amazing in early and not so good in late.

>>2477533
>>2477517
Nvm you can change class between missions

>>2477513
The preparation. Outfitting dudes, checking stats, formation where possible, taking right supplies. DD was like a drug in that regard.
>>2477482
Good list, thanks.
But, no JA3? Is it really that mediocre?

>>2477593
no i just forgot about it. i like ja3 the most of the xcom-likes i played

>unlock second specializations
>put quickdraw on my high level sharpshooter
>activate zero in
>massacre entire b1 droid army in one turn
Welcome back XCOM 2 Sharpshooter.

for me it's xcom and phoenix point and nothing else comes close

xcom 2 started out bad and got worse, i have little hope for this

It's fun but I was expecting more from "former Firaxis devs".
-Cuts out all the ambush/overwatch trap bullshit, just combat.
-Overwatch is a cone that reduces accuracy the bigger you make the cone. It's also functionally suppression. Huge improvement over xcom overwatch.
-Visuals are great, but demanding on GPU.
-The UI looks great.

Issues
-Base building reduced to a list of tiered upgrades.
-The character creator is some DEI bullshit. There is one white male face. There is one decent looking black male face. Everything else is an ugly mongoloid peasant abomination. It's pretty clear most faces are just reused alien face assets.
-The assistant character is some angry self-righteous bitch straight from a Netflix serie. If I was running a PMC, there would be a bullet in her brain.
-Class system is boring. Four skills you can level per class. The skill upgrades are usually just +1 damage or +1 meter to skill.
-Seems kind of easy. Straight from the start, the assisting is enough to trivialize the game. Once you start inflating your damage numbers, it just gets easier.

>>2477755
once you reach a certain mission around 8 cycles in the difficulty ramps up a little. Bit of a wake up call for me at least.

>>2477755
the character creator is some next level bullshit. unbelievably ugly. I refunded and torrented instead no way I am giving niggers money for that.

>>2477769
>a certain mission around 8 cycles in
You mean the cultist cave fight?

It's true that the new enemies that start showing up after that are tougher than the droids and gangbanger you've been fighting up to that point, but I wouldn't say it's a significant jump in difficulty. You jujst need to focus fire on whatever nigger has the highest SPACE AIDS counter because they'll chimp out and heal to full. Also PROTIP: If a melee enemy chimps out and goes invisible (which is the most dangerous bonus IMO), you can just remove the invisibility by using an AoE attack on the spot where they were standing.

>>2477788
That fight was a bit annoying but it also annoys me that I have to fill my space mana bar to use my rocket launcher and shit like that. It feels like they are taking more from that marvel game than xcom.

>>2477460
>>2477482
Gears Tactics is worth a playthrough. It's often overlooked because of muh console wars etc. but it's surprisingly good.

full review: torrent/10

>>2477789
>It feels like they are taking more from that marvel game than xcom.
Mechanically the game is basically Chimera Squad with some Midnight Suns influence.

>>2477834
I never did play chimera squad. I just don't want to play as ayyyys. I want to make my dudes.

>star wars
Why are they still beating this dead horse? Aren't the manchildren that obsessed over this garbage in their 40s now?

>>2477859
>Aren't the manchildren that obsessed over this garbage in their 40s now?
That just means they've got more disposable income.

From what Ive seen from other people playing the most broken shit is prolly the mandalorian darts+detonation along with a scout or 2. He just spams that crap on each enemy and if they are close together each dart is basically an extra attack when he finally detonates the thing. He can wipe an entire spawn point (or close), including tougher non droideka enemies. The baroness cunt as a gunslinger+sharposhooter with vicious stack might be nasty as well if she gets close but not as OP.

>>2477872
The baroness is actually really nice as a scout, because her killsteal ability lets her constantly trigger the scout's bonus advantage on kill ability.

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>max out Cly's darts
>bring two scouts to farm advantage

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Did tutorial and a couple of missions
>You're forced to send one of your men to die through a series of retarded decisions
>Gluo Shitto, I know you're wounded but could move forward and melee some guy while they shoot you 3 times out in the open?
>Glup Shitto hack that console, while 3 ranged enemies look at you and some melee faggot wants to rape you with a neon lamp katana
>Glup Shitto dies
>player character" It can't be helped, he knew what signed up for "
>visit Glup Shitto memorial
the rest of the writing also feels like a fever dream, somehow your main character was the "rising star" but he is a grade A moron

>>2474895
this is my issue
the game looks good but it looks very linear

>>2478067
>somehow your main character was the "rising star" but he is a grade A moron
Finally, inclusive writing that I can self-insert into

How do smoke grenades work exactly? Do they only grant chance to miss against those standing in it or does it also reduce accuracy for those firing from within? Also does it work midway or does it need to be on top of the enemy/ally?

>>2478129
they just buff units in the tiles with smoke

None of the starting classes make sense.

The blue manlet has a melee that refunds AP on kill. He should be a soldier to boost melee damage, and it gives him a second melee after he has his AP refunded.
The baroness executes low health enemies. She should be scout for the extra advantage on kill.
Tricks gets fully healed on death with no injuries. He should be a heavy(with a sniper) to taunt and retaliate.
Anything works on Hawk, but scoundrel makes the most sense early on. Grinding up bond stats on the MC is the min-max strat. Medic might also work. I don't use medic, so I don't really know.

>>2478146
game is easy just larp

I feel like cross training could be optimized for OP ways

only a few hours in but so far the game just feels mediocre, and that's being generous. cyberknights and menace are both better which is just embarrassing considering those games likely have a small fraction of zcom's budget and menace is still in early access

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Can I make a full Clone squad?
Do I have to accept aliens into my unit?
Is there romance?
Am I allowed to serve the Empire or am I forced into the Resistance (which modern writers have made lame and gay)

Just watched the order 66 scene on youtube, this shit is so ass

>>2478211
>Can I make a full Clone squad?
You can just put everyone in clone armor cosmetics. You can also just fire all the unique companions and hire generics. Generic characters can be totally customized, changing their personality/race/gender/descriptions or whatever.
>Empire or resistance
The game is Republic vs Separatists. You're railroaded into helping the Republic.
>Romance
No
>Aliens
Some unique characters are forced on missions, but you can customize your generic operators to be humans.

>>2478237
>The game is Republic vs Separatists. You're railroaded into helping the Republic.
only the first half, at some point order 66 happens and you end up on the other side of the empire, including a cameo by a villain from Fallen Order

>>2478237
Can those generic characters be Clones? It's not a dealbreaker necessarily even if it would be cool, I don't mind playing the non-GAR side of the Republic's military force.
>Republic
That's fine and I wasn't expecting a Separatist path or anything but I know it's set at the twilight of the war, does that railroading extend to not being able to remain loyal to Palpatine? I hate being forced to go Rebel, it loses all meaning if I'm not the one to decide it.
>Romance
Shame since there seems to be a few girls in the crew and love plays a pretty heavy role in Star Wars

>>2478239
>Fallen Order
I hate Inquisitors I hate Inquisitors I hate Inquisitors I hate Inquisitors I hate Inquisitors I hate Inquisitors

>>2478242
There's a character databank on the main menu. You can make some premade clones to show up in your game. I haven't seen any by default.

>>2478246
That's cool

why wasn't the game just the sandbox mode of battlefront (2004) but with turn-based squads of up to 8 units? TRUTH.NVKE.

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Does she look good?

Where do I discuss the modern XCOM games in this site anyway?

>>2478294
Hell no. She looks like she is missing her problem glasses.

>>2478297
either
>/v/
during US hours, but you will be flooded with jaded Open X-(Wound)Com faggots shitting up the thread
or on
>/vst/
slow thread and it will die before reaching 100 replies

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>Made Marvel turned based tac strat
>Then made this Star Wars turn based tac strat.
We wont be getting xcom3
But im eager to play The Disney Princess turn based tac strat which will be the next one.

>>2478323
>We wont be getting xcom3
Anon, I... it came out almost thirty years ago. Have you been in a coma?

>>2478329
It was called xcom apocalypse
Not xcom3

>>2478323
Nice try. It'll be the Muppets. Disney hires them to do properties that Disney has bungled, to get autists talking about the property, again.
Clearly, it works, I'm proof of it.

I felt amazed, realizing that the guns were basically classes that you sneak into the 8 standard classes, the talent system is there for making broken bullshit (but you can also just use it for resources) and a second class on top of it all breaks things open. It doesn't have the same crunch I want, but there's a bit of crunch in it. I'm going to sit down with it in a bit.

>>2477111
I pirated the game and it does feel like that... I wouldn't pay full price...

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Just finished the game and I don't feel like doing a second playthrough. Too story and character driven compared to Xcom

Never played XCom so my take wont be as refined as some others in regards to gameplay
Also not finished yet

Gameplay
>the core is fun to play with and mostly works well
>some of the class's abilities seem useless
>Overwatch has a small but noticeable chance to not work
>you can change classes and weapons freely to experiment without consequence. Personal talents for story characters can't be changed, but most are better than what you use for generic operators that can be change at will
>Even 20+ missions in with decent builds, a certain faction becomes very spongy
>Armor is purely cosmetic. Wish it wasn't
>you don't buy new guns, just new mods for guns
>you can change almost every part of hired ops (idk how I feel about it)
>camera is bad, need zoom out

Cosmetics/Characters
>ugly faces everywhere
>unironically jew noses and female bug eyes for most faces
>hate male Hawks voice acting (like a half assed southern draw mixed with nails, have to wear Clone helmet so it's tolerable)
>4/6 main operators have been enjoyable, men and women received equal attention in writing it seems
>the 2 non combat female crew got modern girlboss attitudes. one still is well written in spite of that
>Not a lot of helmet choices which are important to not see faces
>an ok amount of clothes, more armor needed
>the male hired operator voices are all good
>female hired ops voices seem 50/50
>the combat action are pretty cinematic
>there is wokeness in regard that the 2 special classes (jedi and mandalorian) are both occupied by women, but they aren't written in a woke matter so far
>you can't change the look or aesthetically remove weapon mods that can make iconic weapons look retarded
>main bad needs better writing

Optimization
>sometimes has short lags after ending turn or when overwatch activated
>only had to restart once so far
>long loading first launch
>sometimes droids animation doesn't load and they glide to positions, never seen it happen during the entire combat

Playing this makes me think of how fantastic the game would have been if they let it be more open ended. Some mount and blade esque starwars open world where you run a mercenary group and can take on any job and build your notoriety in specific parts of the galaxy.

Instead the game has to railroad you into this shit ass story that no one cares about. God it pisses me off that so many people making these AAA/AA games hate videogames and just want to use them as a medium to tell their own stories. Sorry! No player expression, no role playing, no immersion, no fun, we have to tell our stupid story about lame ass bugs and get in all of our tired old cameos from all the characters the normie cattle know and love

>>2478573
STAR WARS: ZERO REPLAYABILITY

>>2478573
>Instead the game has to railroad you into this shit ass story that no one cares about.
There are two reasons for this
One, it's much cheaper to make a linear story game instead of a mount and blade clone. It should be apparent given how many linear story slop games are there and how many games attempt to clone mount and blade (none, because it's very difficult and a huge project)
Two, star wars is a pozzed licensed IP where yidsney needs to have total control over the narrative. If you let players make their own story they could... oh my fauci... make an imperial sided warband and genocide space minorities

>>2478243
probably my least favorite nu-wars invention
order 66 didn't matter if there are 900000000000000000 force users left all over the galaxy, necessitating the existence of 90000000 other force users trained to hunt other force users

>>2478605
the old EU also had a bunch of order 66 survivors and turned vader into this memetic badass which nothing could kill because of his plot armor.

I like the more modern take that Vader was damaged quite badly and the only reason the Jedi couldn't stop him was that anyone who could was hiding more from the clones/stromtroopers than vader, who spent most of his time sulking on musitfar pining over padme. When time to fight an actual jedi knight instead of a padawan he struggled.

>>2478573
the game even sets up perfectly for a split campaign with order 66
imagine having to choose either side to continue the story and lose either trick or tel