https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXeEv1y8A6MThis is so stupid.If you want to make a game like heroes of might and magic 3, you can just make another heroes of might and magic.Like 4, 5, 6, 7 and most recently olden era did.and If you don't have the IP, then make Songs of Conquest.You're not capturing any lost 1999 essence by remaking the game, it doesn't have obvious faults that make it hard to play, other than possibly an online client which is already fixed through HotA.Mechanically it isn't even the same as homm3, so why remake it and not make another homm game, for the story? The story isn't uniquely good. It's fine don't get me wrong, but it's not like anyone is genuinely salivating at the thought of restoration of erathia's story could only get shown properly in 2026.Cowardly cash grab that I hope blows up in their face.I hope homm3 players aren't so stupid that they actually pay for this shit.
>>2475344I hope everyone buys this and the OG homm3 scene dies a painful death
>>2475344
>>2475344It looks like it's made by ai. Who the fuck do they expect to buy this shit?
>>2475344I detest this. They replaced the beautiful, timeless art of pixel graphics with modern slop graphics. You have no soui, if you want to play this.
>>2475449you are brown btw
>>2475449HOMM3 never had "pixel graphics". The sprites were shot from 3D models. If you want genuine pixel art, you'll have to go back all the way to HOMM2.AI slop is the art style of our current era.In the future - when graphics are generated directly in the brain by Neuralink implants - people will look at AI graphics with the same nostalgia that we view old pixel art today.
>>2475344"EAT OUR AI SLOP! EAT OUR AI SLOP!"
>>2475415Because it is, the trailer video and the rest of art are all AI slop. You can see Catherine's lips barely sync with what she says in the video. The in-game part is just the Heroes 5 engine with a Heroes 3 skin duct taped on.
>>2475533>Neuralink implants go away Muskrat!
Even the gooner gacha games had more SOVL
>>2475344I always wanted a HOMM 5 remaster but now I'm really not sure anymore
>>2475344Insane how blatant they are with the AI gen. Looks fucking hideous. Like they put town screenshots into their chatbot of choice and just asked it to remaster it.
>>2475876That's exactly what happened. AI interpreted the centaur stables as having windows so it generated windows and ubijeets approved it, because they're subhumans.
>>2475344>I hope homm3 players aren't so stupid that they actually pay for this shit.I got bad news for you
>>2475851HOMM5 works and looks great as it is. The art style is fantastic and all a remake or remaster would do is butcher the art direction and probably censor things
>>2475344Remakes only happen because some suit walked in and said "it's literally free money, retards will buy it".The sad part is that the suit is right.
>>2475344>and most recently olden era did.Olden Era thinks HOMM is a hardcore PvP franchisethis one expands on the ideas of the classic games.
>>2475533Yeah, I disliked the change in graphics between these two games. H2 was colorful and whimsical, while H3 this early CGI look with dull desaturated colors. Then 4 tried to be more colorful but it was rushed and assets looked like plastic.
>>2476001And that's a good thing.
>>2475415It's so funny because this was exactly the kind of shit people said about Olden Era. Now we have actual AI for the "remake" and people realize how bad OE could always have been.
>>2475533Why do crypto/NFT/ now AI niggers always consider their schizophrenia induced hallucinations to be some sort of argument. Every fucking time someone tells them to fuck off with their slop they talk about The Future and how everyone should just lie down and take it because their win came to them in their fucking dream or something.
>>2476108Nobody plays HoMM3 to dunk on dogshit AI. The only reason HoMM3 is alive is because of the MP.
>>2475976I dread to imagine what would """they""" do to Furies and SuccubiCan't have literal demonic seductesses with their tits and burning crotches out in the open in the current wokeshit era
>>2476214>Everyone plays HoMM3 to dunk on dogshit AI. The only reason HoMM3 MP is alive is because of the 30 autistic slavniggers mainly from russia autistically minmaxing the game and playing jebus cross every day for the past 20 years.ftfy
>>2475976>HOMM5 works and looks great as it is.No, it doesn't. You need a mod if you don't want the AI to take 30 minutes doing their turns.
no game should be balanced around mp
Why do they keep trying?Can ubisoft just maybe, like, kill themselves?
Absolute garbage visually. UI lifted off a bad Civilization entry. No PAR music is simply a noose and stool kicked out from under it.Just make this. A 3D visualizer for any map. Procedural. Each walkable 3D square is also a potential battle view. Size - enough to accomodate 14000 troop sprites, so maybe a 4sq miles or so. Castles included. Inaccessible scenery can remain just that - scenery. It is mechanically primitive, not different from square grid RPGs, just blown up in size, and with intra-square FPS mobility. Hexen 1 meeting M&B. Even without any mechanics on this layer it will already be spectacular.
Look at this, imagine there's your army behind you, and that you can ride in front of them clipping their lifted swords with your *Blackshard of the Dead Knight* while you can see enemy army in the distance
>>2476357omega trvke
>>2476357Fucking this
>>2475344Worst slop I've seen (so far).I shan't be buying or pirating and I shall be playing retro games instead.
>>2475344They even made catherine "scream"
>>2475344The main issue I the graphics, if you wanted to make a proper remake you should make the artwork similar in style to the homm3. Making it look different from the old days is exactly why none of the sequels were quite as popular.The spritework of homm3 is a a true gem, and any attempt to replicate it with inferior art is simply foolish.
>>2476839Funny how Homm 3's main criticism was sprite quality when first screenshots appeared. It looked like it really cut a lot of corners on 2D artwork compared to Homm 2 and 1 (it did). It looked exactly like a step between Transport Tycoon Deluxe and Transport Giant. I even remember thinking it wouldn't sell well because of how dull it looked in tiny printed screenshots in a magazine. I was wrong eventually, but it took few hours to adjust, and some sprites were ass for years, until Hota fixed them (the pikeman).I dont think it will work this time though. There were opulent corners to cut back then, and it was still the time of true enthusiasm for all genres. It made a visual and audio canon of itself. And beside it was the II in the class of its own, and then IV could not compete with the similar pre-rendered 3D, and then the V again made a class for itself (even if it wasnt unique after Etherlords). I think I understand the current business decision better now, they must have said all this in their meetings
>>2476839>>2476961The perfect remake...add some terraforming means like disciples or even older AoW, even if it just graphical. That is it.
>>2476839>The spritework of homm3 is a a true gem, and any attempt to replicate it with inferior art is simply foolish.This technology has been lost to time. Or more precisely, to the gutters of Bangalore.
>>2475344there are actual gameplay vids on youtube posted by usual shills, it looks like Homm5 remade in UE5 with extra AI filter, utterly tasteless.
>>2475344>OE>HoMM3HoMM fans raped twice withing a one year span, lol.
>>2477057ai is the future, chuddite
>>2477157how is it "the future" if it is already here in the present day?
>>2477054Well, it is about time for someone to relearn the lost art, or at least train an AI model to replicate it.
is ubisoft going to announce a heroes 2 or 5 remake next before they go bankrupt?
>>2476380for music to be ported from 3 both Romero and Rob King must agree and King gets into fury just by hearing word "Ubisoft">>24772512 would need to keep it's graphics and just needs more content, now 5 remake could be interesting if that would include more maps and better generator
Here's a question. Do you consider rebalancing grossly underpowered factions to be valid under a remake, or does it ruin the spirit of the game?
>>2477672inferno needs to be rebalanced and have demon farming removed, no reason for one faction to be CBT simulator, hell I'd rather have them gating from h5 in some form even
>>2475344Holy shit, what a step down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqA7fTNaEPw>ai slop, ubisoft > :-(>ai slop, literal who:-)
>>2477704weird how hated remake is given how often those faggots were posting homm AIslop and UEslop videos literally everywhere for past few years
>>2477685it's not the best and brightest that get hired for reslop duty
>>2477170the future is now, old man
>>2477708I know! they are the same people because they use the same Anonymous user handle, so I can't understand why their opinions are changing so fast. I can't keep up, and I know I'm really smart so it boggles my mind that I can't figure this one out.
>>2477717easy on the projections, community outside of 4chan was full of that, threads here also has occasional slop
>>2477720I'm legitimately confused by this, I'm not projecting. This site is way too confusing to me and I wish I could upvote/downvote on this site with my friends from discord just like in the other website I love going to more.
>>2477704That looks like 90% close to the original compared to the remake being created by your employer, ubisoft.
why is there even a thread for this?an interesting general died so that this trash could be opened
>>2477758>general>interesting>thread so dead it got past page 10 on one of the slowest boards because no one care about it
>>2477758we have enough hoi4 threads, one less doesn't make any difference
>>2477708Normies hated cause it is made by AI and they get their panties up despite there being good fan work with AI out there. But since Ubisoft made a bare bones and downright offensive remake, those AI vids from fans are "based" and they "always likes fan work".Those retards may complain but they'll still buy the demake from Ubisoft.
>>2475344>>2475415>>2475762>>2476362>>2476380It's gonna make a profit and there is nothing you pearl-clutching faggots can do about it.
>>2478364you're not going to buy it.
>>2478364what compels subhumans like you to mass reply? You don't even have anything interesting to say, just (you) bait. Kill yourself
>>2478364corpo profits make you happy? What a strange fetish, but you must be happy all the time I guess.
>>2478461never said i was>>2478492what compels you impotent masses to be such bitches?>>2478500never said it makes me happy3 in a row. Apparently /v/ NPC hallucinative retardation in full effect in /vst/
>>2478562kill yourself subhuman
>>2478583seethe harder, npc.
Could we try making something new instead?
>>2478896sure, here are heroes of might and magic 8>posts a video of olden era with a different set of ai generated assets.
>>2478896too hard, pay for old thing twice goy
>>2478896Who would want to play anything new?
>>2479010I would, I'm actually bored to death of HoMM3 and would like to play something new that appeals to me and not chinese mobile players
>>2478896So, Olden Era?
>>2475344To be honest I am really disappointed by Grubby as what I saw from his video felt like a script. Especially the end part of his video.
>>2479746I hope they at least paid him well.
>>2478896This. I wish they picked up where 4th left and went ham. HoMM5 was just a derivative iteration of HoMM3, but in 3D. 6th and 7th was just a derivative of 5th one. Nothing but constant attempts trying to pander and appeal to HoMM3 audience.
>>2475344>>2475393#NotMyQueenCatherine
>>2478896Sorry buddy, video games ended in the 00s. It's just same old same old now.
>>2479746First time experiencing dutch culture? They barely qualify as people
>>2479746>To be honest I am really disappointed by GrubbyYeah I was pretty disappointed too.I hope he has a more critical video in the future, like he did for Stormgate, but I suppose this isn't rts so it's a bit outside of his expertise. It's just a shame, because I don't think there are any really big homm content creators.At least the comments on his video see the game for what it is.I considered just unsubscribing from his youtube. I did unfollow his twitch one time after he used reruns too much, I didn't like how even when he was offline, people looking at the warcraft 3 category would see his stream first. He stopped that afaik though.
>>2475453>>2475449Lmao
>>2475344I get Ubisoft mad trash Homm games in the past, but now I'm starting to think the fans will never be happy even if the original team got back together.
>>2487247Why do you think that?
>>2487330There are things not to like with this remake, but a lot of people are nitpicking like pic.I think fans have it in their heads what their ideal HoMM game looks like and have room for nothing else.
>>2487672Pointing out and criticizing clear AI hallucinations in AI generated assets (if the entire game footage isn't outright AI generated entirely) is considered nitpicking now?In your pic related, the only part I'd consider actual nitpicking is the blue parts about walls having no walkways, since that's the way it was in the original too, but everything else absolutely 100% looks like legitimate AI hallucinations and/or the modelers/artists not giving a shit about consistency or quality, and I don't know which option I'd consider worse.
>>2487672>There are things not to like with this remakeThere isn't a single thing to like with this remake, they don't understand anything about the source material and what made it good.They think offloading all creative work and designs to AI was a good idea (it's not). They literally didn't have to do anything except take what was already there and make it high res, hell even 3D, but NOT like this... not AI-powered chink mobile genshin impact slop...look how much color there is to Tower's castle wall design, and how everything in the remake is uniform sloppified grey.The only thing differentiating it from Castle is the blue rooftops. That can't even be called incompetence, it's just complete and utter negligence
>>2487816I heroes 3 came out today, there would be AI accusations still.
>>2475344Someone somewhere in some company strategy powerpoint keeps bringing up C&C Tib Dawn remaster as an example.I think it is the only good remaster of this decade.
>>2487932Yeah and Starcraft is the only good one from last decade.
>>2475344I hope this game gets proper mod support and was easy for anyone to mess with it. Heroes 3 would have been absolute fire if it did.
>>2487984>dissing on AOE2
>>2488317VCMI exists and it's modder paradise
>>2488559Very true. I never played much AOE so was not on my mind. My bad.
>>2487884I don't see the problem, unless you mean the fucked up perspectives (especially with the stairs on the Capitol), but that's a classic human artist error, and isn't really that jarring in actual play/casual observation.But yeah, I can see people complain about art (asset) quality if HOMM3 released today in its OG form, since, you know, the tooling, skill and general quality in the industry had 30 years to develop.
>>2487884It must suck to be an artist trained for this kind of realistic, painterly look, now that this art style proves to be the most sloppable of them all. You could show off your best work and people will still think you just retouched a generated image.
>>2488978>I don't see the problemLook where the stairs lead. Nowadays it would get branded as nonsensical AI slop from the getgo, even though it was the artist's deliberate intention in 1999.
>>2489168That's not his point, look at the staircase that ends into the wall.
>>2489285I know, anon, it's not the first time I see this reposted. I'm just making a general observation that some styles look inherently artificial even if genuine.
>>2475344didnt they just make a clone of homm3
>>2490333you guys should seriously look up what "clone" means, this term is massively overused in video game discussion by smelly third worlders
