Nothing and no one is beyond reworking. Not even lead devs.https://www.youtube.com/@ThomasLands - Videos of nearly finished scrapped TNO builds.https://files.catbox.moe/6kc2dc.png - German space plans.https://files.catbox.moe/4p0tpa.pdf - Goering design doc.https://files.catbox.moe/pwkheh.png - Updated German rework flowchart.https://files.catbox.moe/80z6tb.png - Bormann TNO2 flowchart.https://files.catbox.moe/9ja39g.png - Himmler starting tree, releasing never.https://files.catbox.moe/cdag1w.pdf - Vote Pig, the US rework proposal.https://files.catbox.moe/3bwv2e.pdf - Japan rework proposal.https://files.catbox.moe/chzsvc.pdf - Japan Funada Design Doc.https://files.catbox.moe/u49rh5.png - 26 Japan flowchart?https://files.catbox.moe/qsd9cg.png - Gorky gets nuked now.https://files.catbox.moe/beh76f.pdf - France proposal.https://files.catbox.moe/7vqarx.png - France flowchart. Resistance is dead.https://files.catbox.moe/xlhrjj.pdf - Sweden rework proposal.https://files.catbox.moe/u6ehum.jpg - Sweden flowchart. Updated 26.https://files.catbox.moe/7nxnlv.png - Finland re-re-rework.https://files.catbox.moe/z7t903.png - Norway rework.https://files.catbox.moe/cub16l.jpg - Denmark rework.https://files.catbox.moe/egf8m0.pdf - Charlemagne Insurrection proposal. Cut.https://files.catbox.moe/2k4kcw.png - Bichelonne flowchart.https://files.catbox.moe/l70qhw.pdf - Burgundian Eulogy: A dev is made to justify why his own proposal got cut.https://files.catbox.moe/zff5y4.pdf - Serov facelift/partial Komi rework doc.https://files.catbox.moe/ymgaur.pdf - Amur rework doc. Three years in dev hell.https://files.catbox.moe/vdpi8k.pdf - Old Red Italy proposal.https://files.catbox.moe/nl2c1d.png - Moscowien rework #14.https://files.catbox.moe/n6diob.png - Ukraine rework/expansion.
Dev on dev violence.https://files.catbox.moe/dn6eha.png - UK re-rework chart.https://files.catbox.moe/xkpm9x.png - US rework flowchart.https://files.catbox.moe/a03s7a.png - US 68 conventions.https://files.catbox.moe/iicybx.pdf - Nixon characterization doc.https://files.catbox.moe/9p7n8b.png - Nixon tree.https://files.catbox.moe/zvb7en.png - Hall trap tree.https://files.catbox.moe/xj8yym.png - RFK tree.https://files.catbox.moe/mm5f00.png - Connally tree. Full of seething.https://files.catbox.moe/9i9y7d.png - Hawaii crisis.https://files.catbox.moe/go9tnq.png - Reuther tree.https://files.catbox.moe/sl8afo.jpeg - Wallace tree.https://files.catbox.moe/r8c6i3.jpg - Goldwater tree.https://files.catbox.moe/ez4g4c.png - Schlafly path.https://files.catbox.moe/no1w90.png - Schlafly update.https://files.catbox.moe/joltgi.png - Yorty tree.https://files.catbox.moe/uvnwek.png - Ford.https://files.catbox.moe/cc2mf7.png - Rockefeller.https://files.catbox.moe/sps1he.png - Burton.https://files.catbox.moe/m1i3hv.jpg - VP 2024 partial rework.https://files.catbox.moe/9i9y7d.png - VP 2025 events.https://files.catbox.moe/h1e8ew.png - Humphrey in the US rework.https://files.catbox.moe/fwgmje.jpg - Reagan tree, updated 26.https://files.catbox.moe/8edmqf.png - Reagan Mechanic.https://files.catbox.moe/egyad1.pdf - McGovern campaign document.https://files.catbox.moe/jbimjj.png - Old jfk flowchart.https://files.catbox.moe/r7l32u.png - Stevenson focus tree.https://files.catbox.moe/3n9lq9.pdf - New Granada walltext.https://files.catbox.moe/r86sw7.pdf - Colombian soccer mechanics (200p).https://files.catbox.moe/nlrpjl.pdf - West Indies lore documenthttps://files.catbox.moe/s9rx4e.pdf - GGR Constitution.https://files.catbox.moe/ptvdb1.pdf - Old Indonesia proposal.https://files.catbox.moe/dyqxez.png - Cuba flowchart.
Thankfully both sides can lose.https://files.catbox.moe/9zek9b.jpg - Pre-purge Italy rework, now cut.https://files.catbox.moe/zls2jx.png - NuItaly flowchart.https://files.catbox.moe/e2dc5r.pdf - Fash Italy design doc (outdated)https://files.catbox.moe/omka3d.png - Spain stuffhttps://files.catbox.moe/4d69lc.png - Portugal stuffhttps://files.catbox.moe/twfq0l.jpg - Argentina rework.https://files.catbox.moe/qdwxfw.jpg - Turkey tree leak #1https://files.catbox.moe/0kckpi.jpg - #2https://files.catbox.moe/gj8y34.png - Manchuria flowchart.https://files.catbox.moe/iwmxg6.pdf - Manchuria doc #1.https://files.catbox.moe/cgaqrz.pdf - Manchuria doc #2.https://files.catbox.moe/y2hc34.pdf - Manchuria doc #3.https://files.catbox.moe/96kjev.pdf - Manchuria doc #5.https://files.catbox.moe/hi1h3m.png - China flowchart.https://files.catbox.moe/xfzdpv.png - Croatiahttps://files.catbox.moe/48jovf.png - Montenegro.https://files.catbox.moe/tzqmdt.png - Guyana flowchart.https://files.catbox.moe/knh9ax.png - Tanganyka flowchart.https://files.catbox.moe/pqyhzn.png - Romania re-rework flowchart.https://files.catbox.moe/qsd9cg.png - Germany just nukes Russia in 1963 now, RIP.https://files.catbox.moe/qdwxfw.jpg - Turkey tree leak #1https://files.catbox.moe/0kckpi.jpg - #2https://files.catbox.moe/tdgpxb.png - Iran rework.https://files.catbox.moe/3xbwe8.png - Alegriahttps://files.catbox.moe/48jovf.png - Montenegro.https://files.catbox.moe/wygn37.png - Zollverein mechanic.https://files.catbox.moe/ugfhjb.png - Belarus/Ostland gutting.https://files.catbox.moe/q3e70r.pdf - Sverdlovsk proposal.https://files.catbox.moe/izg02l.png - 6th space race mech rework.https://files.catbox.moe/98hixl.png - Space reworks #97.https://files.catbox.moe/p9kvqs.png - Space reworks #98.
He who reworks the past, erases his future.He who preserves the past, conquers the future.>LEAKED BUILDSDon't let them erase history. Don't let them lie to you that this never existed.2018: https://mega.nz/file/nRhmFShK#rjgJXFH5fh7Y9tfIxtH47YuuOOeJhylhrcJfujCdgcg2021: https://gitlab.com/IllyaTokar/git-days-of-europe2022: https://gitlab.com/retardedsolutions/git-days-of-europe/2023:https://mega.nz/file/kRVSgLRI#-AnpMaq-ymIaLuOdBE_yi0mAf06uP6y3mxuJgEbZlbE - Hotline ManchukuoIllusions End, Penelopes Web, old Germany Branch & Shifting Tides builds taken down by TNO devs.2025:Old US rework branch & Turkey branch taken down by report-spamming TNO jannies.2026:https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1JVxm06fw9x0SHcZz6S0arXD4FQ7n-Ael?usp=drive_link - Yippie leakhttps://www.reddit.com/r/NPPfunny/s/aEQA5WYWvq - Leak source, more charts & Mango facts.KF's investigation into the leaks has highlights and additional builds on pages 910, 918 and 920 of the TNO thread, which I cannot link here.>LEAK PACKShttps://mega.nz/folder/A0oVEa5T#4veC7I5QIlLFpBjCGsmHtQ - Assorted TNO documents, old and new-ish.>DEV ROUNDTABLES/MISCPlease leak more of these.https://files.catbox.moe/j8tp21.pdf - December 24 RT.https://files.catbox.moe/6y2nc6.pdf - August 25 RT.https://files.catbox.moe/zo5zhk.pdf - Post-Antarctica 25 RT.https://files.catbox.moe/gilnye.pdf - 25/11/23https://files.catbox.moe/tqxb8j.pdf - 25/12/14https://files.catbox.moe/2hva9t.pdf - 25/12/28https://files.catbox.moe/zppx1f.pdf - Internal Q&A Q1 26.https://files.catbox.moe/lz8pzj.pdf - 26/02/15https://files.catbox.moe/5djcrc.pdf - 26/05/17https://files.catbox.moe/7tvubl.pdf - 28/06/26Stop replying to TNO jannies.Always remember to exercise caution when opening files posted by strangers in the threads.
World record in leaking.https://files.catbox.moe/kfx2w6.pdf The Ordaz Presidencyhttps://files.catbox.moe/quc10b.pdf The Condor Legion and LatAm Fascismhttps://files.catbox.moe/iicybx.pdf Richard Milhous Nixon biohttps://files.catbox.moe/ijvwph.pdf Lacerda Design Documenthttps://files.catbox.moe/3n9lq9.pdf New Granada Lore Compendium (oudated)https://files.catbox.moe/m2crh0.pdf The South American Cold Warhttps://files.catbox.moe/3v5h8h.pdf The Sam Yorty Presidencyhttps://files.catbox.moe/ujfmy7.pdf The Brazilian Revolution Proposalhttps://files.catbox.moe/khieme.pdf The Uruchurtu Presidencyhttps://files.catbox.moe/b3cy0h.pdf The Mena Presidencyhttps://files.catbox.moe/mlr3om.pdf THE PARTITO POPOLARE OF DONAT-CATTINhttps://files.catbox.moe/7202on.pdf PARTITO SOCIALISTA DEI LAVORATORI ITALIANIhttps://files.catbox.moe/jbwej8.pdf THE ITALIAN REPUBLICAN PARTYhttps://files.catbox.moe/3s1a77.pdf The Quadros Development Documenthttps://files.catbox.moe/3mz6de.pdf Sam Yorty Backgroundhttps://files.catbox.moe/4xh95f.pdf The Salinas Lozano Presidencyhttps://files.catbox.moe/jyxbl1.pdf Partito Socialista Italiano - PSIhttps://files.catbox.moe/svv41x.pdf The Madrazo Presidencyhttps://files.catbox.moe/7ltzrg.pdf Poland Redesign Document (dead)https://files.catbox.moe/9nqmlk.pdf The Iberian Warshttps://files.catbox.moe/kmjoww.pdf USA REWORK semi outdatedhttps://files.catbox.moe/ce5ix5.pdf BURYATIA | PROPOSAL oldhttps://files.catbox.moe/s9rx4e.pdf Constitution of the Germanic Reichhttps://files.catbox.moe/yiufrj.pdf ForPol Yippiehttps://files.catbox.moe/ujfmy7.pdf Red Brazilhttps://files.catbox.moe/d1s15g.pdf Vargas Jr 11/24https://files.catbox.moe/zcbaed.pdf Brazil Junta 06/26https://files.catbox.moe/ltcy51.pdf Boliviahttps://files.catbox.moe/z2peku.pdf Peruhttps://files.catbox.moe/py18jn.png Surinamehttps://files.catbox.moe/u2pvhx.png Melanesia Map
Extended OP because we have dozens of new unplayable tags with elaborate flowcharts. Segregating all DV content here to help with character limits. Last thread had nearly 1500 replies so I've most likely missed some of the charts and links in it. If anyone cares about them just reply to this message with Catbox links to all of them and I'll add them in the next bake.Scanned the KF threads for any new leaks and a RA dev wanted this to be posted in the new bake so here you go.https://files.catbox.moe/om9lio.png - DV Rhodesiahttps://files.catbox.moe/0w30la.png - DV East Africahttps://files.catbox.moe/li547o.png - DV Congohttps://files.catbox.moe/4fxdxv.png - DV Ugandahttps://files.catbox.moe/nnubho.png - DV Kenyahttps://files.catbox.moe/66gs4a.png - DV Zanzibarhttps://files.catbox.moe/n7zxyc.png - DV Liberiahttps://files.catbox.moe/xhhu3n.png - DV South Africahttps://files.catbox.moe/uv7i9f.png - DV Niger.https://files.catbox.moe/zzb68p.png - DV Togo.https://files.catbox.moe/ye9081.png - DV Madagascar.https://files.catbox.moe/pnxauw.png - DV Rhodesiahttps://files.catbox.moe/ezsqsa.png - DV Angola.
>TNO purges its Russia lead using faked screenshots to justify it in their gayest op to date.>Screenshots called out from the first reply, definitively proven to be faked within a day.>Dev purged within hours in the first instance ever of TNO leads trusting 4chan.>Purged lead calls it all fake, declares Russia dev dead, no new lead appointed at the time of writing.>Anons mostly seem happy for once since all dev sides are losing and the unpopular reworks aren't happening any more.>TNO reveals that it's copying the international orgs from EU5 for flavor. Looks nice at least?>Ostland officially confirmed to be completely removed and replaced with several skeletons.>TNO:RA manages to get the leaked Italy build from 2022 to work; 3 Duces and several other leaders. More complete than Yippie, all scrapped.>Argentina is reworked from scratch to be a Pakt country, anons have mixed reactions; Some like Fash Argentina, a few miss Peron, others make fun of TNO for for deleting five years of work again.>TNO devs are openly talking about delaying Yippie now; actual delay unconfirmed.>Leaks show that OFN will be able to disband in Yippie as a result of several crises in the 70s.>Leakers reveal that over a dozen subideologies are being removed while a handful are being added/renamed.>/tno/ bullies TNO's head janny into partly reworking BNWO Sweden again.>Token concessions include the 0% completed Himmler invading if they're commies and don't have nukes plus stolen content from other devs.>Anon claims without posting evidence that the English CW is being removed; new lore is that it happens in the 50s. Britain is also said to give its military a larger political role than before. Unvarified.>There were a dozen more DV and LATAM leaks as the tit for tat leak war between the devs intensify.>ToTA somehow steals TNO's drama crown in the last minute depriving the mod of its one advantage.
Reposting the last comment the former Russia lead that was posted in the last thread.Please don't touch the poop on this one and just let these people self destruct on their own if that's what they want to do.
Local /vst/ hero Yugo, pronounced "pedophile-adjacent" by error logMore news at 11
>>2505848NOOOOOOO! NOT YUGO!
>>2505854Error Log just said that because Yugo criticized him for content farming some old pedo stuff.
>>2505848He's completely correct btw.
>>2505886As in Yugo is completely correct*, likgas is genuinely delusional
>>2505848>>2505854>>2505882>>2505886>>2505887Reminder that Likgas AKA ErrorLog is an attention whoring faggot that faked his identity and largely just drama whores for clout.
>>2505834You could put up pastebins with catbox links on them if you want to organise leaks into different categories.
Snca drama from a snca mod from a year ago. He’s sperging so hard in community post geg. Here’s a qoute from one of them since I can’t post images. >i’ll have my informants be sending me in developer chats too. Mango you should watch your developers mouth.
>>2505848“Pedophile-adjacent”Are you fucking serious? It’s genuinely insane how shrill ErrorLogs moralfagging can get
adding this to the snca pile I swear this dude is Mango or his biggest dickridder of all time look up his account on reddit lmfao
>>2505898Got you senpai
>>2505902>1.1 will add merely a fraction of the amount of content Yippee will.While true bringing an end to post industrial revolution civilization as Uncle Ted sounds infinitely more fun than getting a black woman elected in the 70s to cleanse America of its 'innate fascism'.
>>2505906Hey Likgas you dumb faggot I know you're reading this since you F5 this thread and the KF one 24/7. Nigga, you're NEVER laying a finger on Mango or his cronies. We all know this you dumb fag, you'll never do anything against either of them. Your Nudev-glazing video on him where you celebrated Antarctica proves this. Besides:>>2500080You're BFFs with Kateryna. If you're in cahoots with her, how the fuck do you expect us to think you'd put any genuine pressure on the TNO devs? You might as well be an official sweeper for them!
>>2505889this
>>2505906Oh my god he’s powertripping full on lolcow style. He litteraly thinks he’s a mafia boss with shooters. This is some ethan ralph level shit
>>2505925ErrorFag pillstream when
Waiting for Argentina doc instead of boring drama
>>2505926On second thought maybe not like ralph. Ralph is to entertaining and wiggerish. No, lickass is too much of a smug prick and is going to get taken down by his arrogance rather than by being a rage pig What other lolcow acts like a mafia don who tries to get critics taken down? Keffals? Reviewtechusa? The Quartering? Oh i know, Wings007
>>2505834https://mega.nz/folder/Bc8iTIoD#38Lb9bI5iLrEoZ53aoDfbQmy collection of leaked builds including the 2023 ones, 2025 yippie and bormannidk if we still want these around but here they are
this drama shit is so fucking gay, the devs the youtubers the pedophiles and psych vampires need to calm the fuck down.
Any leaks/flowcharts for Nu-Ostland other than the Belarus one that was posted previously?
>>2505948Nothing, I only have a couple names the reichkomisar is karl siegmund litzmann and the leader of estonia at game start is oskar öpik.that’s all I know
>>2505950sorry wrong guy, it’s hjalmar mäe sorry about that
>>2505948All I know is the dad of Viktor Yanukovich (the irl pro russian president of Ukraine) can become belarusian reichsprotektor
>>2505848He was next in the nudevs sights after Frosty.
>>2505989Surprised they didn't do it sooner. Mango in particular hated that guy and he's frequently criticized both Mango's clique and Kateryna. Siccing Likgas on him just a few hours ago makes it painfully obvious that it's another gayop.
>>2505989Arent you the same.guy who faked the frosty screenshots
>>2505996That person was Kateryna. Only question is if he was doing it for himself or as someone's hatchet man and if that's what's happening now too or not.
>>2505998Kateryna sniped JFK too anon
>>2505998I'm just noting the similarity in the "red text on a white background" exposé post
>>2505996Type a few letters in Photoshop and I'm suddenly Kate, wow
>>2506000>>2506002>Why do people suspect a gayop when something is presented like the last gayop?
>>2505925This is nothing. He once threatened another Hoi4 Jewtuber(Feedback gaming) with the fact that he works in law firm and can easily sue him.
Totally not suspicious that we're getting all this attempted shit stirring over someone that's never been involved in drama despite being known in the community for years and also coincidentally openly criticizes the realism clique.
>>2506012>openly criticizes the realism cliqueI've seen people repeat this here as nauseamAre there any examples of him doing that
>>2505925>>2505932He thought he sounded so badass when he wrote this
>>2506014There used to be more back in 2024 when he still cared a lot about Manchuria and the team. Nothing major, he'd just gently point out why the things they wanted to do were poorly thought out. No drama or shouting just an autist pointing out the obvious to really stupid people. There being a lot less of it probably comes from him seemingly being on break for an eternity.
>>2506012I think it's just as simple as him not liking someone going to tota discord to shit talk him. Not everything has to be some kind of convoluted plot
>>2506017Nigga we just had our most convoluted plot to date just the other week in the middle of a nudev civil war.
>>2506018He's not in the game
if anyone is yearning for loc leaks (which is stupid)docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17O-CsveS4QLZZWnkPoImzzUCgvD2inNu9b-Zn2dhpwMa few require perms tho
>>2506021oh yeah you guys are free to try and raze the sheets or wtv, youre welcome
>>2506021>>2506023You realize that Google docs just let's you revert to earlier versions right
>>2506021I'm gonna feed it all to an LLM and there's nothing you can do to stop me
>>2506026Don't torture the poor bot
>>2506021Someone copy this.
America loc tracker
>>2506034Gather all of them and make a collage so we know how much is missing from Yippie and VJ.
>>2506034if thats current that implies they havent got around to ccoding half the presidents yet theres no way theyre dropping anything this year
>>2505830New Manchuria flowchart posted in two previous threads is missinghttps://files.catbox.moe/59hy3c.png
>>2506035Actually I found one that tracks all yippie loc
>>2506041Seems like that massive bump in remaining stuff is just one that moves from all the extra shit they added. Also big oof if even their highly optimistic internal projections say that this shit ain't releasing this year.
>>2506036>that implies they havent got around to coding half the presidents yetYou know loc and code are implemented separately right?
>>2506054He probably doesn't and no it doesn't prove anything but you're fucking mental if you think things are better on the code front. Out of all mods in the world to have the inverse problem of all mods on the Workshop, it's the most GUI minigame heavy one that tries to reinvent the wheel every time? Not seeing it.
>>2506015Yugo cucked out and apologised to Likgas
>>2506060Likgas is such an insufferable fucking asshole. No wonder he gets along with Kate and the others.
>>2506062As much as he's annoying, he's not a retard though. He probably says this shit to keep his fanbase riled up and engaged so he can keep his basedpilled jewtube channel active
>>2506054>You know loc and code are implemented separately right?obviouslybut if some presidents like morrison have 0 events to write loc for that can only mean they havent set up his stuff yet, not to mention writing loc
>>2506060Why would any modder ever even engage with this mentally ill, attention-seeking faggot in the first place
>>25060731. To probably clear his name after being labelled as "pedophile-adjacent" to his thousands of fans.2. They don't. He was banned from the EAW and TFR discord for being an attention whoring dramafag which he publicly complained about in his community posts until he got unbanned.
>>2506075>Thousands of fansHe's just some autist that keeps to himself. I think he just wanted these people to leave him the fuck alone. It's not like he has a fanbase or is that much of a public figure.
>>2506077Likgas literally has connections with modders and jewtubers and constantly uses this as a way to engage in drama. So no, he doesn't just keep it to himself.
>>2506081Oh I thought you meant Yugo having thousands of fans. My bad thanks for clarifying.
Might be the least consequential drama of all time
>>2506087>Likgas exaggerated the fuck out of a tame misunderstanding that could've been resolved within two exchanged sentencesJesus fucking Christ.
>>25060872 things1 - the tota dude being a pedo was an open secret for years at this point, not saying he doesn’t deserve to eat shit and die or get exposed for it, but errorlog didn’t expose fuck all he just resurrected public information about an irrelevant and exiled loser for clout he sure as fuck doesn’t care about exposing pedos if he’s willing to use the label as a general insult against yugo2 - yugo should grow a cock and some balls, I would never apologize to someone comfortable alluding to me being a pedo to thousands of people because I called their youtube channel slopall in all everybody comes out of this a bigger fucking loser than they were before
>>2506021you do realize that the devs can easily private all the links right? Did you even think to archive all the docs before you posted this?
>>2506095Maybe he just wanted to troll and fuck with them. I imagine all their jannies are going to have a headache dealing with this shit.
>>2506093A clout hungry opportunist who does pedo hunting purely for the fame and power it grants him? That’s crazy they should make a movie with a plot like that and cast Robert Pattinson.
>>2506041Wtf happend in October that added 2000 pieces of loc?
>>2506107>>2506042They're likely just the same thousands of pieces from lumping all the updates together because it's thousands of them appearing on the day both screenshots were taken. Guess it's just how that mess is represented in the dedicated US sheet.
>>2506107I think Germany team started requesting events and some SEA stuff
>>2506116No, it's all existing loc in the Germany demo and all the LATAM content that was added. Not saying that they're not requesting more I'm saying that the bump is the merged count.
>>2506041this all looks very wierd. your telling me they wrote over a thousand pieces of loc in a month?
>>2505829... Well this sure didn't work out for these guys.
>>2505945how do you play the builds? like where do you put the files?
>>2506118I mean they have like 80 writers now, it's not completely implausible assuming they're cracking the whip.
>>2506103The jokes write themselves
>>2506127>Just crunch harderSure is going to do wonders for the quality.
>>2506132I don't disagree I'm just explaining the spike
>>2506124you put the files in Documents/Paradox/HOI4/mod folder.Also, the 1.15+ builds you need to rename the build folder with "TNO_dev" to launch.
>>2506139thank you
Also, Since when was the Italy 1.15 build leaked? This is the first time I've seen it.
>>2505848Error Log is a moron so I get it but it's really funny how everyone collectively jumped to Yugo's defense
>>2506143Well yeah he's the only dev that is both known on the board and not an asshole. By contrast nearly everyone hates Likgas.
>>2506041If this is accurate I could see them delaying it until January-February next year. If somehow they are able to "just crunch harder" then maybe I'm optimistic for a December 27th-31st Release.
>>2506167Nigga this has to be implemented too.
>>2506169I don't know anything about how developing HOI4 mods work.
>>2506041From mid september to the start of october, 1,000 locs were able to be completed. It’s mid October as of now and the rest is just the general projection of locs needed. They have about 1 1/2 months to finish the needed locs and that’s not that’s not including the time needed for implementation. Considering that jump from september to the start of october, it’s theoretically possible that they can crunch this out in the next month or so but it’s going to be very hard on the teamBest case scenario yippie releases with a good amount of bugs due to the crunch, that along with a few missing locs Worst case scenario is that they delay another month or two
>>2506179Crack the whip Mango.
>>2506179Another person that has no idea how modding works.
What do we know about the play testing, coding and Gfx side of yippie?
>>2506186Last we got out of testing was the other month which said that they'd started but that nothing worked mechanically.
>>2506186Testing has started, so that means enough has been coded so that tests can beginGFX is lagging behind. Fewer than expected people have signed up to be artists after the recent pushNot everything has been coded in yet and some areas are still under design (the Philippines)
>>2506188Yeah this shit ain't releasing any time soon. And like that other anon said if the early tests came back to say that none of the mechanics worked and if the July build was completely uncooked then I have almost no faith in it mechanically working.
>>2506186
>>2506195"there will be no room for more unnecessary reworks" I fucking hope so
>>2506199... Several dozen tags are being reworked or are being created from reworks. It's already happened. The entire post is a lie.
does this mod ever make any actual progress?
>>2506193lmao the fucking tranny janny demanding that no defeatism is spread. Suffer, nudevs.>>2506205One step forward and two steps back.
>>2506202This is from August. By this point NuArgentina, which I think is the newest rework, was already decided internally (I believe we have that on our records of their roundtables)Afaik, the Baltic shit was already known by this point. I don't recall any change in the last two months, does anyone here?
>>2506205Modern Tordesillas released this year. Yippie is probably going to be released in 2027 or 2028. NuGermany is the thing that is delayed beyond what's acceptable. Does anyone have a comparatible timeframe with that and KR's Internationale rework?
>>2506210You're missing the point. Half the world is in rework hell already. If they added one or no countries doesn't matter. Half the world is still being reworked. The scope creep has already happened and exploded beyond all reason.
>>2506211At least in the case of KR you've had massive released reworks for Germany and Russia not to mention all the China content they've done. While the 3I rework is taking ages it's not like the mod isn't seeing new content. Yippie and VJ being delayed wouldn't be as bad if they actually updated shit elsewhere. And no Antarctica doesn't count.
>>2506213That's fair. I am just glad they realized they fucked up, but you are right that this is too little, too late
>>2506216I don't even think they actually realized their error and course corrected. It's almost guaranteed that they'll bolt on more shit or make more changes to presidents etc.
Manchuria status
>>2506226Uh, one of those asignees left ages ago and is now a Requiem coder. That just tells me this can't have been touched in a while.
Will Mango purge Kateryna next?
>>2506223I don't think so, at least for the US, Mango is the suppreme leader and only he can decide if he wants to change anything, and he seems very determined to do his part and fuck off
>>2506233It's the other way around. Killing off the idea of any Russia dev fucked over Mango's promises from earlier.>>2506234Mr. Replace an entire route over election ass pain.
>>2506234Who do you guys think is the least bad potential successor to Mango? And a feasible one, not someone who's been cockblocked like Yugo.
>>2506237Kateryna. Full accelerationism off a cliff. Most hated guy on the team, can't get along with anyone, highly controversial and spends almost all his time gayopping.
>>2506237Bassist maybe? I don’t see any problem with him besides working on a snca region
Niggas talking about TNO leads like it's a medieval kingdom's law of succession
>>2506235>Mr. Replace an entire route over election ass painWas is the source of that anyways? Like, Kremlinology is funny but it is based on something?Because from what my source said to me, Romney was being done by a dev (Obummer) who then left, and well, "if you move your feet, you lose your seat"
>>2506249Retards in this thread made up some bullshit so it aligns with their sick headcanons? Inconceivable
>>2506237It would've been great if Panzer made a comeback
>>2506249It was around the time when the original Fong leaks happened. Maybe someone has the screenshot saved I seem to have lost it because it was years ago but it was around the time when this first leaked and he was at the height of his TDS asshurt. This also sparked drama with TFO at the time since they were using Romney and the change did screw them over. The exact wording was something to the effect of: "He didn't line up with where we were going narratively." Since this happened around the time when several US presidents were getting reworked to be more evil and sometimes be able to turn into literal fascists the place they were going narratively is usually assumed to be one about blackwashing America which is currently more evil than Germany and does shit like nuking random blacks in Haiti.
>>2506227Yeah, this one looks old asf since it doesn't align with the new flowchart, showing Yuyan/Gu completion instead of Ruan/Gu who similarly take control after the Yasuda Crisis.
>>2506016Sure, but are there any screenshots or smth? Just out of curiosity more than anything else.
What do people think the likelihood of the update coming out this year is? Like 50/50?
>>25062710. Later in 2027 seems probable. It's their most overscoped update ever and they've never hit a deadline before. If it releases this year it'll be a total mess.
From the Info Bank
Haig too
>>2506257I do believe that Mango is literally retarded with his take that the US is already fascist (specially since he seems to believe in the conspiracy theory that Nixon had Reuther killed, so why have him represented as a fascist as well), but even with his mental illness there is nothing in the game that represents that the US is worse than Germany. DC is imperialist yes, but that was there since the Panzer days (reminder that he said that the US is only good because they fight fascists and that the canon had them become the villain of the plot by the 80s)Nuking Haiti is just the poor's man allegar of nuking Vietnam, which is a thing that many wanted to do. And Germany nukes Gorky, so even in that the US isn't alone
>>2506284>VP George Wallace Will they fuck?
>>2506289Oh no he's getting shot again
Bodaybo
>>2506304>Dead tag with everyone associated with its original development gone from the team since several years back
>>2506306Actually a tag made up by FrostyNot even Corn era apparently
>>2506304What even is bodaybo?
>>2506304Pretty clear that Bodaybo is just a puppet tag for Irkutsk to be annexed into it and the Yakut ASSR will play the same role for Sablin
>>2506308It's not. He got that from Scood or possibly one from Pacifica's old crew. The name and the leader name is present in some really old plans. If Frosty did it then he rebooted it without any of the documentation (since all those devs are presumably gone now). It'd be similar to how St. George which leaked earlier has some of the DNA of a really old thing from when Pacifica was lead but is completely reworked other than Men being there.My best guess is that they were trying to recreate the old tags from the few scraps they had. At worst Frosty was a fucking snake that tried to claim the old Moskowien lead's work as his own. In a sense modern TNO comes across as medieval scholars trying to rediscover what the Romans did but are hobbled by their own dark ages.t. Really old former greytide
https://files.catbox.moe/288ywp.pdfSome US space events if anyone wants to read it.https://files.catbox.moe/fr63us.pdfhttps://files.catbox.moe/23bgso.pdfAnd the Shirley Temple Black and JFK focuses respectively, in lieu of flowcharts. The JFK one might be the same as the old outdated one, idc enough to actually check.
Also some in-game focus descriptions.https://files.catbox.moe/wt6pzr.pdf
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https://files.catbox.moe/mtk294.pdfAll the loc trackers for yippie, with one for the entire update and several subtrackers for each region.
Thanks for enabling all of these leaks Kateryna you dumb bitch.
>>2506038Park’s Republic of Manchuria being lost still makes me sad. NuManchuria is so boring
>>2506337How is this
>>2506337>>2506339more interesting than this?
>>2506340More text on a heckin flowchart ≠ it’s more interesting
>>2506340Holy mother of bloat.
how does koreans ruling manchuria make any sense
>>2506343They were one of the five nationalities that made up the concord of manchurian national identity, they was a good number of them both from large scale migration from japanese occupied korea predating the mukden incident, some million total, many of them, especially the later immigrants were japanised functionaries like Park. They were more reliable than chinese but more disposable and numerous than japanese, making perfect middle-managers for manchukuo, often being multilingual and educated while also being good scapegoats for chinese resentment, hence their overrepresentation in the manchukuo police, army and lower level bureaucratic posts. Over time one can imagine they would dominate the ranks of high-ranking managerial posts drawn form 'authentic citizens' of the new nation.
>>2506337If you read through both proposals there really isn’t any changes to parks path in terms of policy and whatnot. only change is that park is much more militaristic and sejima isn’t a puppet master anymore Now katakura and GU (technocrats) are pretty major deviations (objectively worse in gus case) and puje/yuyan isn’t even written about so it could be worse On the plus side, manchuria has a lot more proxies in siberia, mongolia, and north china. So they actually get some traditional hoi4 gameplay instead of just twiddling their thumbs and waiting for a line to go up
One thing I will say about the current (I think?) Japan rework is that an Asanuma path sounds very interesting. It’s a shame that whatever team is on Japan can’t do the concept of a socialist Japanese empire justice, and the rework it’s attached to does not look that interesting. (I know nothing about jap politics so maybe it’s a me issue)
>>2506337the original proposal for park manchuria was a character assassination of both park and sejima. im glad it got removed. And besides, pretty much a lot of new park manchuria is the same as the old park manchuria (as this anon said) >>2506388Its just the awful character assassination has been removed
Does anyone have the Hiram Fong tree?
Holy fuck Yugo keeps cucking himself and submitting himself to Errorcock
>>2506422>4chan’s fav dev is a giant pussy spreading his cheeks for the reek treatmentCan’t make this up, TNOheads stay losing
>>2506422Imagine apologizing for calling out an obvious clout whore and letting him bully you into submission. Nowhere is to be found a set of dick and balls on ms yugo.
Does anyone still care about schorner doc? https://docs.google.com/document/d/1N23ouzZT5SxADMUKTbGTbaf41izLzhQ3SpLFZ2NnQeA/edit?tab=t.0>>2506415https://files.catbox.moe/w75u17.png
>>2506407Portraying sejima and park as people who promote hedonistic degeneracy simply to exploit a nation. Park was a firm nationalist, he wanted his nation to be strong and ran his country like it was an army. Discipline was so strict that you could not grow your hair long or wear a skirt. Yet he was the man portrayed as meaninglessly promoting opium and prostitution so people will forget about the factory conditions Park would NEVER do that. He would tell the people that the factory conditions are a necessary evil so we can build a better future for the manchurian people. He would tell them to work proudly for 14 hours and have managers run the floor like it’s a boot camp because it’s the sacrifices we have to make to save the country from poverty and anglo imperialism
>>2506437Thank you
>>2506437Do you know why Fong only gets one term? Does he get fucked at the RNC?
>>2506443who gives a fuck
>>2506445It’s sad :(
DOES ANYONE HAVE THE SHIRLEY CHRISHOLM TREE?!?!!????1!? I WANT TO CRUSH AMERIKKKA AND KILL WHITEY AS MANGO INTENDED
WHERE IS MY CHRISHOLM TREE WITH MUH GIBBUMS FOCUS IM READY TO BE UNBOUGHT UNBOSSED AND UNBOUND
>>2506447Just go a few replies up
>>2506439100 percent this.Parks Manchuria would not be based on slow fundamental corruption, it would instead be based on pushing society to its limits. Park would expect people to do many sacrifices for the nation, to give their absolute all to save and build the nation. He would also expect the people to not only give it their all but also to be able to overcome all sorts of near impossible political and economic challenges.Thus a park Manchuria would not be based on corruption. It would instead be based on pushing society as much as possible in the name of national salvation. Even if it may break society in the process
>>2506193>less than three months before deadline>hall hasn’t been even been coded yetBAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA holy fuck this mod is a disaster
Realistically, how bad would the Yippee update have to be to lose the support of its fans? It can be a pile of busted, unfinished trash, have horrible on-the-nose writing and countless cut features and they’ll still eat it up just cause it’s got baked-in name rec like a film IP
another sheet leakhttps://files.catbox.moe/16iy4p.pdf
>>2506479can you drop the latest roundtable?
>>2506455That and also molding society into a new manchurian ideal via propaganda and a ruthless secret police. Manchuria doesn’t have a codified culture but has a culture based on diversity. Park would attempt to merge all the cultures into a single manchurian monoculture based on the ideals of japanese pan asianism and modernism That would mean japanizing language, promoting korean and japanese on tv and the press, sidelining chinese characters in favor of kanji/hanja, etc etc
>>2506480I'll see about it
Not to be too off topic but I get a kick out of reading mango’s irl political predictions because they’re so half baked and self defeating, by this logic Sherrod Brown is uber fucked in Ohio which I doubt mango would agree with
>>2506422>>2506423Why do you think he's survived getting purged for so long? He stopped being as outspoken a while back.>>2506437Didn't Messiah Mike of all people make a screenshot leak of this a while back? Anyway thanks.>>2506475Yippie is already unique because it'll be hated by default by a lot of people since it's a soft reboot of the mod and a lot of the changes are polarizing let's say. I think they'll actually have to be pretty good to prevent the decline of the mod to accelerate.
>>2506522What was the catalyst for Yugo shutting up? I’m confused why he submits himself to people when everyone here wishes he’d grow a spine, or maybe that’s just us in a bubble.Also I don’t know how much more unpopular TNO can get a large segment of the people who talk about it here and elsewhere are just a-loggers, and people outside of Reddit where backlash gets scrubbed by mods regularly shit on it like X. It’s gotten worse now that TFR overthrew it in the popularity contest.
>>2506524>YugoI think he just got worn out after being fucked over and strung along by Mango and his ilk for ages.>Unpopular I don't think it being highly unpopular matters all that much. They hate HOI4 and their audience and don't operate like a regular mod. A lot of their remaining fans also don't play the game and just want to see politics they're interested in get shown. The team's going to have to collapse internally because effectively being an invasive species at this point makes them highly resilient even in the face of widespread hate.
>>2506482Holy tradcon Kalergi
>>2505837>Please don't touch the poop on this one and just let these people self destruct on their own if that's what they want to do.aka don't alog.
>>2505828>The Hillary pin turns into a Kamala onekek>>2506548No it just means that you don't interrupt them when they're fucking up. The Baker clearly doesn't mind a-logging in general.
>>2505829I just want the record that it took them maybe two hours to remove a lead over fake screenshots but the evidence that it's completely fake has been out for over a week and they didn't lift a finger to punish the guilty party. Enjoy the leaks, Kateryna.
Tf is yippie? I havent kept up with TNO since Atlantropa got removed
>>2506577Basically a soft reboot of the modReworks America content and extends it to 1977 with a bunch of new presidents and some old facesRework to the first ~3 years of German contentRussian mechanical update and Amur facelift and some new proxies and wars for Russia Complete and total rework for Africa, basically completely unrecognizable from release except for the Italian coloniesAnd a bunch of new skeletons all over the world
>>2506577>>2506579A lot of this is wrong.The Germany stuff is just a demo for the rework that they've been working on for five years but since only Bormann is finishing they're releasing a demo because the tag will break otherwise because of the new content that actually is finished. More to come... Eventually.African content is picrel. Basically you're getting the OTL cold war in Africa where Germany, America and Japan squabble over which African tinpot dictator should align to them.Russia content isn't happening, they purged the lead and destroyed the team over clique bullshit. Their last leak of the loc tracker alone reveals that they're nowhere near finished on loc and them chasing out the guy coding everything isn't helping. The mechanics etc didn't work in the July Git build either and I have no idea how they plan on finishing it after gutting the team.The description of America is correct but it's also worth noting that the NPP is gone and it's mostly just OTL Democrats and Republicans doing historical policies.It's debatable if it's even a reboot of the mod since literally everything's being reworked from scratch. The only thing that is old atp is Russia and only because they destroyed the Russia team several times over.The new skeletons all over the world might actually happen though and the Italian colonies are still there.
>>2506583Amur is still coming in yippie
>>2506584How the fuck do you even rationalize this after they wrecked the team and that shit clearly wasn't finished when the lead was banned over a hoax
>>2506585Would be retarded to discard the Russia portion of the update
>>2506590The guy that was making it is gone you fucking dipshit.
>>2506592Amur and Russia were the most completed things in JulyAssuming development went on between July and October, it's relatively safe to assume it was nearing completionDevs are already on thin fucking ice with yippies release date and announcing they're removing Amur from the update would be suicide (as if they haven't committed suicide already)I don't think lead devs would allow it to go unfinished
>>2506601>>2506326https://files.catbox.moe/mtk294.pdfthey had nearly a hundred pieces of localization for Russia left when they effectively disbanded the Russia team again. None of that's been coded. The guy that was purged was the first person that's put in major work on coding Russia in two years. It's not happening unless they replace the team they just disbanded or delay things even more than they're likely to do already. Why the fuck they couldn't wait with purging the guy until he'd at least finished the job they wanted him to do is beyond me.
>>2506606Coding in loc isn't a particularly demanding job
>>2506615But they got rid of the guy coding it. If they're this far behind AFTER THEY DISBANDED THE TEAM AND PURGED THE LEAD and none of that's coded and that's just the tip of the iceberg then the point is that this shit isn't releasing, stop coping. It would've released if they hadn't purged the Russia team but since the Russia team once again is no more this shit just isn't happening. The chart also shows that when he was purged it wasn't finished either.>Just have someone else do itThey can't without guaranteeing a hefty delay. See why it was stupid to break up the Russia team already?
>>2506619They're probably delaying the update either wayMy point is Amur is coming with yippie
>>2506623Honestly doubt it because the team making it disbanded. It's more likely that it gets released separately later as a stopgap update several months after Yippie whenever that is.
>>2506623Only way I see it coming is if they delay it, if Yippie releases prematurely (aka they rush it to meet their deadline by the end of the year and don’t delay it) you’ll never see that Russia shit. Or they include it and it’s jank and they just say fuck it, could see that too ngl. They might go back and fix it but I highly doubt they’ll want to since Mango is abandoning the mod once Yippie drops and Russia was under someone he hired and they gayopped, so it’s column A or column B whether who replaces him is a rework retard like he is and throws it all away or they just never get to it. What you won’t be seeing if them fixing it post release because Frosty was the only one in ages to do Russia dev and that’s likely not changing especially after the update when eyes on the mod will have drastically fallen.
considering there’s no Russia team and these jokers haven’t even coded fucking Hall yet you can kiss Amur goodbye
I still want to know WHY they wanted to get rid of Frosty and what he did to incite their ire. He had to have pissed off Kat directly since he’s the one that went scorched earth on him.
>>2506631Why are you so fixated on the idea that Amur would be cut from release of all things? Considering that Amur was 95% finished in a months old leaked build, you're far more likely to see something like Yippie releasing with presidents only up to 72 with the next 4 years promised for some future follow-up Yippie 2.0 update. Amur is only part of the update in the first place because it was already close to done and they thought they might as well pad out the release with it.
>>2506639What ayrt is saying is that none of this shit is releasing, retard-kun.
>>2505828Who is that supposed to be on the right
Does anyone have the new Hart and Chep trees?
>>2506636The only theory I've seen so far that makes sense is that he's the Russia lead while Kateryna's hijacked Ukraine, Ostland and Moskowien dev at this point. At least he made the last flowcharts. Kateryna's been making a lot of demands of Russia dev such as disallowing Russia from winning in Karelia which means that he does have a habit of crossing over to Russia dev. If Frosty disagreed on any of that or wanted to revert something you can at least see a motive forming. I have no proof for this but at least it's a credible motive given how vindictive some of these people can be over getting their visions through. I mean what else could it be?
>>2506661The Russia lead that was purged last week.
Can anybody give me a dialectical materialist analysis of the inner workings and relations of the dev team
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>>2506666For fun. Czar was at least was honest about it. Niggerdevs aren't.
>>2506677I doubt it but I also wouldn't put it past Kate.
>>2506639Apparently Amur is on testing phase
>>2506780Well so is Yippie and that was an unplayable dumpster fire according to testers. I think the more important part of that screenshot is the amount of people doomposting than the lying shitbag that purged their friend claiming that everything is fine.
Frosty seemed to be a moderate against some reworks (for example, he was against a Soviet Omsk that was proposed to him), and while unclear if this behaviour would continue in other reworks when the time came, he was a man who actually did shit for onceIt doesn't really matter though, he's gone, whoever is gonna replace him is probably going to churn out more reworks
>>2506844Kateryna will make sure it gets back on track. :)
>>2506855Ima say something a bit controversial, but kat and lam probably do the most amount of work in the mod. Not saying it’s good work but it’s still basically true. You look at jane or pikeman and they haven’t been able to complete anything when it comes to their respective development Speer is basically dead because jane is too focused on making flowcharts for central asian snca. Meanwhile Lam is able to churn out a complete bormann with brand new mechanics and subpaths along with a massive focus tree in the exact same amount of time
>>2506857Do you say this as someone on the dev team
>>2506857Whatever you say Kate
>>2506857I mean neither of them have lives so I'm not shocked that they shit out heaps and heaps of abject garbage but that doesn't change the fact that they're two terminally online morons that make garbage 14 hours a day.
>>2506860just someone who looks at the progress of their respective areas of development Jane has basically done nothing with speer dev for going on 4 years now. Just give the dev to lam or the goring lead and let jane do east asia and china. It’s what they want to do anyways
>>2506869Fuck off Kateryna.
>>2506869DO NOT LET JANE DO EAST ASIAI REPEAT DO NOT LET JANE DO EAST ASIA
>>2506877oh shit forgot about that, yeah just let her do central asia and mongolia. Leave china to someone else yugo maybe
>>2506877Jane became Twitter infamous for it even back when the DV reveal dropped and Twitter was briefly convinced that it was being cut. It got so bad that even Mango had to go out and do damage control over it.
>>2506437Mango shoehorning Kanye references in his work will never get old. I’m going to miss you, mango buddy
>>2506898You and nobody else. Fucking moron is the worst lead in TNO history.
>>2506911I promise you that the next lead will be WAY worse
>>2506911
>>2506583>>2506579Surprised they havent removed Tabby.Is the person who wrote his content or Komi even around anymore?
>>2506923>Surprised they havent removed Tabby.Who's gonna tell him?
Anyone know if George Lincoln Rockwell will have any role to play in Yippie. Or any far right figure at all
>>2506482Indeed, indeed all so to create a unified people with one unified identity, purpose and goal. A new people, a new nation focused on the one shared goal of national salvation and economic development. Even if it must be done so through force (the secret police)Unified together like a corporation. A manchuria .inc
>>2506911In October 2027, when Lamounier gets rid of Warlord Russia you'll look back fondly upon the Mango years.>>2506879If we're wishcasting dev choices then I want the TFO or ANM China devs to replace the dumbass who's in charge of it now considering they've actually made interesting looking stuff for it.
>>2506923Komi lead has been gone for years. Everyone that made content for him is also gone. Only reason Tabby and others aren't reworked yet is because Russia dev has been almost completely dead since 2024.
>>2506934>In October 2027, when Lamounier gets rid of Warlord Russia you'll look back fondly upon the Mango years.No I’ll just say they’re both horrible, next lead could conceivably be worse but that won’t rehabilitate how awful his tenure is and in many ways led to worse things happening to TNO as a result.
>>2506934The tfo guys are basing it off of the internal stuff from tno like the ncpc and whatnot. They even made their manchuria in line with the current iteration (didn’t really change anything but a portrait for park and sejima being there) But yeah I agree, give it to them, they can actually get something done.
>>2506923That was Pacifica. As a rule of thumb, if you see old content in which people are OC's, it was made by her. Nudevs have tried to base their characterization on researchPersonally I would argue that a sane Tabby path could be scary enough, because we are talking about a dude that is a Nazi and wanted his country to be occupied by Germany for three decades out of his self-hatred for being a Jew. But I understand people like him for his memetic factor. I don't vibe with the OC school of content, but different tastesConsensus on Russia is that the warlords wouldn't be a thing if done now (it would be the Russian SSR and a exploration of Soviet politics), but it is too late for that. Mango has clearly told people in GER for example that the priority of the mod have to be the climaxes of the story (the Russo-German war and the Third Sino-Japanese one)
>>2506991>If done today our most popular content would never have been made and it'd just be the USSR lmaoThese people are hopeless.
>>2506619u don't need to be a lead to code in LOC it's literally copy pasting text into a text file a monkey could do it.
>>2507004It's not. You need to actually set up events, focuses, spirits etc so that it can actually appear correctly in the game and the tag's unfinished. Someone's going to have to code in ALL the missing stuff not just put words into a localization file. This wouldn't be so bad if Frosty wasn't the only guy that actually got Russia dev moving in years.
>>2507011that's not LOC coding tho you are describing adding effects for focuses and spirits. The actual actual act of adding in LOC is just putting the words in the localization file. Don't act like adding in an event doesn't take like 5 minutes max if the text is done! The Writing is the roadblock not the coding.
>>2507014>Coding isn't the rose block Ah, so you know absolutely nothing about modding. Gotcha. Either that or you niggers have literally just turned it into a shitty VN without gameplay at this point.
>>2507022You're genuinely retarded
>>2507022Well when the mod lead is someone whose only other claim to fame was on a shitty VN game with no gameplay that’s just to be expected innit?
>>2507024devnigger moment
>>2507024If you don't understand why having something even as basic as a decision category work mechanically takes several times longer than writing the tooltips for them you're adequately explaining why your mod is dying.>>2507025It makes perfect sense yes.
>>2507026Yeah I'm a dev, just not for the tno. I think I know what takes more time considering that I worked on every aspect of modding
>>2506601>Assuming development went on between July and October, it's relatively safe to assume it was nearing completionThat’s a big assumption to make knowing Frosty got shitcanned in early October, meaning there was likely drama in at the very least late September pushing back any potential actual development going on and knowing what we know now that he did get gayoped by Kat means what work he did make there’s a decent chance Kat is chucking out whatever he doesn’t like as we speak
>>2507029Name the mod you work on or stfu devnigger. No balls.
>>2507029Post your mod and tell us what you did or you're a fucking TNO devnigger idea guy/greytide.
>>2507033>>2507034Name's plankton's new order.
>>2507037Post proof retard
>>2507025This VN direction is something that was decided before Mango's tenureGuangdong is a VN, but it's good so it gets a pass
>>2507037No it fucking isn't you lying devnigger cunt. That guy wouldn't come here to defend devniggers.
>>2507039It's not. You actually have to engage with the actual mechanics of the game there. You're mentally ill if you don't understand why Guangdong works while everything made after the hijack is hated.
>>2507039big diff between one element of a game being a VN and the entire game being one
why do i feel like this is just one big bait.
>>2507044Still caring about TNO in 2026 is the real bait.
>>2507038Don't feel like it>>2507040I'm not defending anyone, I'm stating the facts. Gfx takes the most time, then writing and then code. In case of tno it's writing, gfx and code because of how word heavy it is.
>>2507041You don't have to engage with the mechanicsThere's no game over screen in GuangdongNot engaging with mechanics just makes the game boring
>>2507045remember once you are here you are stuck forever
>>2507047>Don't feel like itThen fuck up
>>2507041The Ural demo was more of a visual novel, the reception to it made devs realize they needed to have mechanics
>>2507047>I don't feel like proving that I'm correct Fuck off you lying devnigger.
>>2507022>rose blockI meant for coding events which is what we were talking about dumbass. It takes longer to write and edit an event then just put in fuckingcountry_event = { id = TAG.67 days = 0 }in the completion section of a focus and edit a loc file. That takes 60 fucking seconds. Maybe an extra minute if you want a picture too.
>>2507060You fucking dipshit there's more to making a tag work than firing your bullshit events about trans rights in Antarctica.
>>2507062are you stupid????? That's not what were fucking talking about????? I'm saying that coding LOC isn't hard and that's not what is holding things up? You're fucking agreeing with me retard yes the mechanics are the bottleneck not adding events thank you.
>>2507064It's not what's holding things up and the fact that you think that is insane.
>people who have no insight into the inner workings of TNO development outside of the occasional leaked flowchart or design doc arguing about how code and events work
>>2507071Go away devnigger.
This thread right now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPu47lXZzR8
Looking at the writing document and 99% percent of Amur/Russia loc is written down as being implemented in game
>>2507076PrtSc
>>2507077https://files.catbox.moe/kwd2uu.pdfTop events are requested by a person called pjeroCould be a new Russia dev or something
>west russia is unified by the latest meme addition from requiem >they intervene in my invasion of south urals>i fight them to death hoping for early unification>they collapse for no reason and leave me with unwinnable war and broken borders great
>>2507091tno killer btw
>>2507095Has a submod even killed the main one? Not even KX
>>2506991But that's the main problem with the new approach of TNO. While I fully agree that gross mischaracterisations and excessive black/whitewashing should be avoided (cannibal Mountbatten and other early shit), just mechanically following what the textbooks and wikis say results in the mod feeling incredibly sterile. A game can only hope to succeed if it is popular and entertaining. Wolfenstein is hardly historically accurate, but kicking the rear end of evil Nazi robots Rambo-style makes for a very fun game. If Wolfenstein were completely historically accurate, WJB would be a random American soldier fighting German-aligned French mercenaries in a proxy conflict in Burkina Faso, and while it wouldn't necessarily be boring, it would just be one of the countless "Operators fight enemy operators in third world country" shooters, and would quickly be forgotten.
>>2507078Ah, thank you. Nice.
>>2507078>Early game content requests after the old lead was purgedREWORK TIME>>2507106In general those things only happen if a mod just implodes or the author turns out to be a scammer or something equally drastic. KX, TNOR and TNORA aren't trying to kill the main mods they forked off from anyway. It's more like Panzerstan and Pacificaland broke off from a dysfunctional shithole that didn't represent them. Really in a way it's healthy. Don't like nuTNO? Unsub, go to the other place, and don't bother the nudevs. If they weren't so chronically butthurt all the time they could just treat it as an opportunity to make their side of the community calmer.
>>2507140This doesn't really seem like a reworkJust some flavor events for the Chita-Magadan alliance which in practice already exists in game
>>2507078>The last missing content requested by Frosty is all relating to Kateryna's stomping grounds>He was gayopped and purged by Kateryna while he was working on this content that affected his pet projects
>>2507147Kateryna purged frosty for uhhhhh prompting flavor events related to a russo-finnish proxy which has already been designed
>>2507146Not a full rework I basically think that >>2507030 is right. If we're instantly seeing changes to the early game then I'm going to air on the of pessimism and say that the people running the tag now are throwing out whatever he did that they dislike and replacing it with their own gay shit.
>>2507149Well the purging and gayopping makes absolutely no sense and Kate having a crashout over something impacting her tags is a better explanation than "Kate had a mental breakdown and purged Frosty for fun".
>>2507152The purging makes no sense because neither side wants to publicly reveal all the detailsFrosty mentioning he moderated "a mildly large server back in the day" without further context and kateryna just saying "privacy reasons"
>>2507154Just going to assume that you're a dev doing damage control since these are blatant lies contradicted in the posts in the OP. Frosty did provide additional context: he brought up his experience with moderation as a point of comparison with how TNO was run and said that the way they were doing it was completely unprofessional. Him moderating a server had nothing to do with his ban either and you trying to shift it away from the gayop to that is deranged. It has nothing to do with why he was purged which was over the faked screenshots. "Privacy reasons" and "drama everyone's already seen at this point" is just Kateryna trying to sweep the gayop under the rug. And finally Frosty is also quoting Kateryna's post you're talking about and calling it complete disinformation in the last post of the op. So Frosty seems to be very clear: he was the victim of a gayop, he thinks they're unprofessional and he's calling them out as liars.
>>2507140>If they weren't so chronically butthurt all the time they could just treat it as an opportunity to make their side of the community calmer.This. I can see why people think that the nuTNO seems boring and maybe a bit bland - that's fine, to each their own. But it's truly baffling how big of a drama stream is the nuTNO development. They had the opportunity to just sit tight, do their thing and prepare for whatever backlash they get (because they would, less or more deserved). But no, lol, why would they. >I'm tired, Boss.
>>2507150This is such a small "change" to the early game that can't really be used to argue how they're changing basically finished Amur (this isn't even listed as an Amur change)Why would the head devs allow frosty to revive corns plans if they just wanted to rework it all anyways
>>2507160Actually you're right, I probably misinterpreted his statement mb
>>2507162Like I said I'm jbeing pessimistic. If the days following a purge are being marked with changes to the early game I'm willing to bet that we'll see more of them. It wouldn't be a concern for a normal team but since we're talking about the drama-obsessed TCT devs that just executed their Russia team for no discernable reason I'm not giving these people the benefit of a doubt until they can prove that they can go five minutes without shooting themselves in the foot.
>>2507166You're a schizophrenic living in a parasocial fantasy completely detached from reality btw
>>2507168Yeah OK distrusting people that have proven themselves to make poor decisions time and time again is completely unreasonable. Cope harder.
Hey Pukich34 Kate is also reworking Ostland, Moscow and Ukraine as far as conflicts with Frosty over Russia goes. Since you're writing about it don't leave out those key details.
>>2507193I think you have to provide evidence that these are relevant to the conflict. After all Frosty is a nudev who's completely on board with everything they do if his Caucasus submod is anything to go by.
>>2507196Well it's either them disagreeing on Russia dev issues or Kateryna having a random crashout, framing and banning him over nothing for fun. Those are our options now and we know the official story from the devs is wrong because the screenshots were fake. And obviously Kateryna banning a lead for fun isn't a credible reason for him to go to these lengths.
>>2507200You have to proof that there's a connection between the ostland/Ukraine/moscow rework and frosty's ban. I do not believe there is any. The murmansk is more probable as it was his last loc request and Finnish proxy requires direct collaboration between the russia and german devs where as RK's are completely under reichs control and what they do with them has no impact on Russia. It could be an argument over something trivial which then escalated because Kat is a nasty and argumentative person
>>2507215Sure the evidence is circumstantial but it's still worth mentioning when they're possible leads just like Karelia and the only other explanation is>Kateryna had a mental breakdown and banned the guy over a hoax and everyone's okay with it somehow Which would be nuts even by their standards.
>>2507127I understand that complain, but I think people exaggerate. Like Mexico is one of the tags that is accused of this, but the devs have invented an interventionist Mexico DF in the Caribbean from nothing, that can clash with the US, and Mateos's succesion is open because from day one he wanted Ordaz to succed him. The Aleutean Crisis exist to give Ordaz a fall from grace and allow challengers from the right and leftIn Brazil politicians relevant to the 60s are used (which I would argue it is fair because that was the people involved) but Lott is the starting president because "mm, with Lott being a war-heroe because or his service in the UL during WW2 he might have won the 1960 elections"I think Yippie does a good balance of having iconic presidentiable men like Goldwater, Reagan and RFK, while opening the door to more obscurece politicians like Yorty and BurlónAs for Africa, I can't talk about it because I don't know jackshit about itI would also add that things like the Hall presidency, Red Germany and Bolivia defeating Paraguay are evidence that the team's rule isn't "it has to be realist to be better"
>>2507233Fuck off Mike. No one cares about brazil or mexico and they will never be interesting or iconic
>>2507234So should they just not have content/only have skeleton content? People who are do care and are interested are going to make content for them regardless, which is why they have content in the first place
>>2507243The problem is not in mexico and brazil existing, the problem is that it's boring and soulless wikiscrape just like the rest of your mod.
>>2507234doesn’t mike only play europe?
>>2507245So what would be interesting and iconic brazil and mexico content then?
>>2507254nayrt but basically skip all the demo content and start five years into their planned content without any of the otl copy paste and go straight towards the point where ahistorical options, civil wars etc are on the table alongside the possibility of the PRI coming back. Something for everyone based in the current plans and makes the otl Wiki scrapes the devs love a reward for playing well instead of the unavoidable default. Not what I'd make but I guarantee you that the Mexico content wouldn't be a punchline to a bad joke if you did that. Also since it's already approved content you can't say it's whacky and unacceptable.
>>2507254Nazi Mexico and monarchist Brazi
>>2507260So you're just upset that Mexico doesn't have full 10+ year content? Or you think there shouldn't be build up to things like a civil war in Mexico, you should just be able to to pick the mexican civil war focus in the first year of gameplay like in vanilla?>>2507261How would that happen and what would be interesting or iconic about that and why?
>>2507265>How would that happenI'm not the one making the content, it's your job to figure it out. First you get an idea and then you start thinking about how to make it work. >what would be interesting or iconic about that and whyHigh stakes and the consequences it may have on the world make for more interesting content. Brazil already has a war which could be interesting had they not decided on making it non-canon whatever that means. Mexico could go to war with USA or fund migrants and nazis. I would also put some fetish Blanqueamiento larp for a good measure because that's what nazi mexicans would be probably into.
>>2507276There is no pod in the 30s from which you get a Monarchist Brazil. An Integralist state maybeNazi Mexico has the problem of why the US didn't invade it already (considered they already invaden non-radical Mexico three times in history)
>>2507265You're so fucking dumb that you can barely be considered sentient. No, the demo content being absolute dogshit is the problem. But you can look at the charts they made and see that they aren't just creatively bankrupt Wiki scrapers but actually have some ideas of their own. Instead of having a terrible demo that's just Wiki scraping they couldn've started it at an ahistorical point and had the demo hit a different kind of crescendo. A problem with the demo is that it's pointless and all you do is pick which third world anocrat you want to lord over your shithole. Skip that step, relegate to that story, and give any optional conflict the breathing space it needs in a less dull setting.Again not what I would've made but I'm presenting this as something that could've been done based on the existing ideas of the devs.
>>2507278>Nazi Mexico has the problem of why the US didn't invade it alreadyBecause they just lost WW2 and can't because their armies were beaten and they're eating shit right now. You know, the premise of your mod, remember?
>>2507281The US wasn't beaten because Britain got sealioned and the US peaced out instead of trying to liberate europe solo, the US army is fine that's not the scenario in TNO, just make your own mod where Germany conquered the US at that point if you want that lol
>>2507289Then have them fucking lose the war in the Axis victory mod so that something besides your worthless OTLism can happen you creatively bankrupt devnigger.
>>2507281Guatemala defeated the Mexican army in the 50s, it was a big scandal. Also Woodrow Wilson wanted to fully occupy Mexico if not for WW1. A brown or red Mexico are getting their asses invadedWhich could be a fun narrative, the US having to deal with a local Vietnam at home, with both Socialists and Synarchists hating the American occupation, but I understand if people would get cold feet about that given the level of research it would be necessary + it would have to affect US continental content which Mango doesn't want to
>>2507291Go make your own nazi world domination mod then. TNO has from day one been a cold war mod between the US and Germany as superpowers
>>2507291OTLism is when real political leaders are used, per what you said given that the alternative was making shit up. I'd love to hear why Madrazo reviving the anti-Atheist semi-Socialist PRI of the 30s or Salinas ruining the country with neoliberalism 20 years earlier are examples of OTLismRegardless, I think with the Argentina rework LATAM is on the right place because a fascist Argentina vs a democratic Brazil works best as a central conflict. Mexico's role as a country that can align with either the US or the Sphere, or keep neutrality, works for their situation
>>2507298>It happened IRL therefore it has to happen in TNO unlike the fall of the USSR and BritainFuck off, devnigger.>>2507299>Hey think of a scenario... Oh, no, sorry, but none of your ideas are acceptable because we deliberately designed the scenario so that nothing would ever happen>Sorry looks like only my ideas are approved after allFuck off, devnigger.
>>2507302I'm sorry no one has made your version of TNO where RK Amerika does nothing so you can have heckin based bleach fetish mexico and 'iconic' monarchist brazil lol
>>2507276On the leaked chart that was shared here it was showed that Argentina can lose a war against Brazil/Chile in 74With non-canon wars the devs meant the ones that happen outside of that timeframe
>>2507308Monarchists are the lamest ideologues of them all. It is literally a submission fetish
>>2507308It's so fucking frustrating to talk to you devniggers. Every time we make suggestions you just fall back on everything other than pure, rigid OTLism being unreasonable (except where it isn't) and when we make suggestions like simply saying that America's unable to stop Mexico from joining Germany's side after losing the war you just go into the other extreme and pretend that everything has to be as insane as KX. You people are pathetic and should just have worked on CWIC instead. That's clearly what you're interested in for the most part. Instead we now have this bizarre timeline where the Nazis winning barely caused any changes outside of Europe because most countries just do what they did IRL or something that could realistically be portrayed in CWIC.
>>2507308At that point just make a man in the high castle mod. No point bitching about tno when you already have a well established world and setting built for that purpose >>2507299also japan, don’t forget about the sphere lol (I wish it had more content baka)
>>2507315Not everyone is a dev you schizo your ideas are just dogshit
>>2507320>This support for zero gameplay OTLism is highly organic and it's just a coincidence that it's happening at a time when all the jannies are watching this thread like hawks because of the shit-show of leaks that Kateryna causedOK buddy.
I think a fascist or national labourism Brazil in the OFN could work, but monarchism just doesn’t make sense.
>>2507315Somebody forgot to take their autism pills today.https://files.catbox.moe/mbtjjg.mp4
>>2507384Go away, AI slopper
>>2507384I look like this and say things like that
https://files.catbox.moe/skhaxi.mp4
Frosty and Kateryna requested Estonia events together #wholesome(If any of you are curious, the starting leaders of Estonia, Latvia and Ltthuania are Hjalmar Mäe, Ernests Kreišmanis and Petras Kubulianus respectively)
>>2507315I think part of the issue is that you are writing backwards instead of from the beginning. Now the best approach is doing a mix of the two, but to get a German-aligned Mexico you have to seriously make changes to the semi-socialist Mexican revolution. Mexico didn't recognize Francoist Spain even if they killed leftists at the hundreds at home because they still had to larp anti-fascism. You would need to create a pod that, while being related to WW2, changes thisCalles was a Hitler stan, but he was out of power by 1936. Compare Argentina, in which ForPol was very crutial to 40s politics, with Perón's victory over Perlinger being explained in part because the later lost face with the Axis losing the warI do think that TNO has moved into a more hard althist direction since Panzer's days, and I understand people not liking it, but I can't say I regret the current direction. I am willing to accept the OTList accusations in Africa because I don't know anything to be able to see what's different, and I don't care about the continent either to bother reading about it
>>2507496Isn't it weird how across all the Yippee leaks and whatnot how no one posted anything for nuOstland or Bodaybo? Shouldn't there have been leaks regarding this stuff instead of reworked Japan flowchart #5 or African snca?
>>2507557We got some leaks for it but nothing substantial. I think Kate's moved on to not post these in the regular devcord channels after the Iran leak debacle.
>>2507454trannynocaca
I just remembered that Ostland teaser from 5 years ago. Rest in peace
>>2507607I clicked this and for a whole second I thought that it was actually a teaser for the new one and that something would actually happen there before I realized that it was just the stuff they're deleting. The original plans for Ostland's extended content were crazy with Jeckeln going full Huttig on the region. Shame absolutely nothing came of any of that.
>>2505829Are the other leads just okay with this? Even if Mango or Lamounier greenlit the gayop you'd think that some would be pissed about all the leaks and how public it became.
>>2507622Do people outside of the Discord or the 4chan/kiwi farms even know about it. I haven’t even seen it mentioned on Reddit or by likgas
>>2507629Yeah it's escaped containment. Other teams and fans of mods know about it but as you'd expect most don't care a lot since it's just more drama from these people. They already had a bad rep outside their own community.>The most over moderated Reddit in the world and Mango's doormat aren't talking about itLast places where you'll see it to be honest.
>>2507569>Iran leak debacle qrd?
>>2507657Since nearly everyone on the team hates Kate their Iran rework leaked instantly, people here made fun of it and you can read it in the op. Having everything they make get leaked has made Kate more guarded about their flowcharts.
>>2507454OMGSISA
Can anyone give the mali and senegal charts with the new french invasion path?
>>2507790Fuck off Mike.
>>2507612Imagine looking at this and coming to a conclusion that it's boring and stable autonomous baltic protectorates are more interesting. You don't hate these 'people' enough
>>2507799I wish I'd saved the Jackeln focus tree when I was still on the team. It had over a hundred focuses but all of it got deleted. Piece of shit we'll get now is unplayable and useless. Fuck nudevs.
>>2507799It is not boring, it is just retarded goyslop made for simpletons.
>Kateryna is coping in the thread again
>>2507823It is boring, it's just 10 indistinguishable killpeopleism tags that make submental morons basedface at how edgy and 'cursed' it is. It's slop for youtube superevent compilations.
>Kateryna replying to himself to feel validated
>>2507829Fully agree with this nigga, it's about time we start pushing against the schizopaths lovers who just love any slop if it's schizo and especially if it's far right schizo. Yall have TFR for that now or KX, go play that if you love edgy sloppaths so much.
>>2507829How could 10 burgundian tags be boring? You can play as Pupengruppe Himmelfart and make the whole Ostland a giant concentration camp. Isnt that funny enough?
>>2507842Incredibly asshurt post.
>>2507842Don't bother with him, he's a TNO janny replying to himself because he's bored while stuck monitoring the thread for leaks.
>>2507829Still upset that nobody liked nuking Haiti except for the sake of laughing at how ridiculously hamfisted it is?You people really do think that everything you didn't make is "wacky slop", and seeing the community prefer that to literal Antarctica, island skeletons, and replacing Africa with>Wow! I can't believe it's not OTL!is making you seethe, huh.
>>2507799The height of hoi4 modding is when every country has a 12-sided civil war with all my favourite ideologies, but if the bad ideology wins it becomes 30-sided civil war between the based/cursed versions of the aforementioned ideologies, and so on ad infinitum
>>2507849This but unironically and not typed with gritted teeth because the idea of things happening enrages me
>>2507849You lost the race to 600K against a mod with a 12+-sided civil war lmao
>>2507852>im retarded, but unironicallyOk.
>>2507849Yes.
>>2507857>the retarded ones are the ones who enjoy gameplay in their wargame mod and not the ones trying (poorly) to hack a visual novel into the Clausewitz EngineWe'll be finished reworking by Christmas, amirite? Yippie definitely isn't horrifically overscoped to the point it makes TFR 1.1 look tame.
Should they remove Labour and the Tories from HMMLR because it's just an OTL-ist wikiscrape?
>>2507901Who cares? Britain dev is dead because they brought in a guy from Spartakus to work on it, who promptly purged anyone with talent.
>>2507916Is this real
>>2507901>Completely ahistorical situation of liberating the country in a bloody civil war against the German occupation government>"This is OTL slop too rite? XD"This isn't the gotcha you think it is.>>2507923Yes he worked on a botched mod and is just a dirtbag that's in it for the politics. Britain dev has been completely dead since he took over and that should speak for itself.
>>2507935>Completely ahistorical situation of liberating the country in a bloody civil war against the German occupation governmentIn a world this fucked up, I'm supposed to believe Labour and the Tories are just their otl selves
>>2507901They should implement that old idea about being backed by Himmler.
lol
>TNO purges people and goes into lockdown mode over all their staff only document links leaking
>>2508097Lockdown too really?
https://www.reddit.com/r/TNOmod/comments/1xbo0ar/one_day_in_dallas_george_wallace_edge_case_in/
>>2508150>Half a year later>It's the same undercooked shit from the Git leakroflmao
>>2508177How is it half cooked
>>2508190No visible developments since before other than the tooltip for what people already deemed to be dumb back when we saw all the placeholder content for it. They're slacking and need to crunch harder t b h.
>>2508195They definitely need to hop on the grind
>>2508177Or maybe the GUI was finished in the git build
I haven't played TNO since the Ukraine update, with the RK's paths. Is it worth coming back today, what have they done since?
>>2508177yo why is freddy fazbear going on a roadtrip with Wallace?
>>2508111I thought tno was in bunker mode
>>2508268They released an Antarctica demo, finished two paths for Brazil and did a facelift for Iberia. They're reworking the entire mod from scratch atm more or less. A Germany demo, the US rework and replacing all of Africa with native run skeletons will release this December according to the devs but the Git leaked back in July and it was completely unfinished then. Since you left there are two reduxes too, Rises Again (original Atlantropa) and Requiem (a Russia centric one without the worst reworks). They're generally preferred on /vst/ over the original mod.>>2508265Look at the post above you. It clearly wasn't. All they did was touch up the placeholders.>>2508276Earlier anon was talking about internal security. Honestly they'd be stupid not to take precautions since all their master documents started leaking out here.
>>2508268Sure, you should try the current version of TNO, before the Yippie reworks. If you liked the RK Ukraine content, a submod was released a year ago that expands the content of the Ukrainian People’s Republic through 1973. Afaik it was recently rebranded as New Years of Global Order. If I’m not mistaken, it includes content for Vorkuta, Yugra, Gayny, the Divine Mandate of Siberia, and even forgotten Qinghai Ma Province, which reminds me of a revival of a long-dead Brave New World submod concept, lol
>Paging Sooty >Paging SootySome corrections on your analysis post.>Kateryna is a Germany devHe's a general Reich dev and is a power hungry one at that. He's reworking Moskowien, Ostland, Iran, Romania, Sweden, Finland and several other tags. He did not like Frosty and since Kateryna is notoriously difficult to work with it's almost guaranteed that there was animosity over the reworks. In fact the last content requests Frosty put in were related to Kateryna's stomping grounds. They're in the Russia master doc that got leaked in the thread. Shortly after that he was purged by Kateryna who's also the moderation lead.Just saying, you're understating the scope of this no lifers reworks and the fact that he's a power tripping janny. He's reworking more tags than any individual on the team and they interacting shortly before the purge that Kateryna pulled the trigger on.>CornHe stepped down as lead before the Spain update I think. Russia was leaderless for a long time until Frosty took over. Development had been functionally dead since 2024 and is now completely dead again. I for one welcome this because that means none of these awful reworks are releasing.Everyone involved in this is a faggot and it's a good thing that they're suffering.
I'm wondering whether they are desperately untangling the code from integration with DV and Reich teaser, hoping to maybe release Yippie in March (and that's a generous prediction) or just biting the bullet and announcing that it will release in 2028 (never).>lol>lmao
>>2508386>He stepped down as lead before the Spain update I think.He stepped down about a year earlier actually, after having done zero work for Russia since about a year before. His “replacement” were your standard reworkers whose grand ambitions were removing the Kazakh civil war. Thankfully neither of them were actually interested in doing any work.
>>2505828In other news TNORA is launching a new update to content for post Huttig collapse
>>2509085DV eternally BTFO by two autistic manchildren.
>>2509085Big Italian Africa...
>>2509085Claude was working overtime for this
>TNO's Frosty purge drama briefly featured on MATI during the Sifu segment>Josh's entire stream audience of several thousands now knows that Mango's a fag and Kat's a troon and a screenshot fakerSooty W.
>>2509104timestamp?
>>2509108Near the end during the Sifu sigment and just before the super chats with the green stream filter. It's really brief and he barely skims it. Sooty or someone must've interrupted him mid-stream and asked him to read it is my guess. It's pretty insignificant by itself other than Mango's Chrisholm shit being called out and that the fake screenshot drama's getting more exposure.
>>2509109Yeah just found it, josh thought it was snca (which it kinda is let’s be real)
>>2509113That and he was made to interrupt the one segment that actually gives him any semblance of joy in life these days. Mango's and Kateryna's ten seconds of KF stream fame I guess.
So, for anyone who doesn't know what these two niggas are talking about (like myself), the whole thing was featured on "Mad at the Internet", some KF associated stream or show or podcast or something, where the host skimmed over one of Sooty's (RA dev) posts for the stream, not caring in the slightest about it (as he should) before going back to whatever he was doing. If you really wanna see it, which I don't know why you would, you can find it on Rumble on the 23rd of October stream at about the 3 hours and seven minutes mark.Don't know why I even bothered with typing this out.
>>2509085MYSTERY NIGGAS
>>2509139>MYSTERY NIGGASMan FUCK yo bone spurs
>>2509138>KF associatedIt's literally the site's owner and admin doing a weekly news show. It's official and one of the most notorious Internet drama shows by virtue of the toxic brand they have.
>>2509148I wouldn't know, as I said before.
Niggas ain’t even begging for flowcharts anymore, the threads basically dead atm shits fucked
>>2509156>Hundreds of posts in a few daysMost actual activity we've had in ages. It'll kick off again whenever there are any developments there.
>>2509156Are there any new flowcharts? Feels like everything has been posted atp
>>2509164I imagine it’s because of the recent leaks they’ve shut down more public channels. Like LATAM dev clearly has stuff, Australia, etc.
>>2509167Abba Kovner leads a revolt in Vilnius during the Kampfzeit
>>2509170>Hey you know this part of Ostland's CW we deleted?>Yeah it's just an event now it doesn't matter>lmao
>>2509170Can you explain what the Walloon riots are and the consequences? And do Speer/Bormann have specific policies for the western conquests?
>>2509174It’s an independent tag that takes over vilnius it’s basically a revolt of all of europes jews (so all 3 of them)
>>2509210So it's an event with some cosmetic effects proving that devniggers will never understand why people play HOI4.
>>2509210Hm... Vilnius you say? Hold on a sec *Checks Wikipedia*>"In the Vilna Ghetto.... His attempt to organize a ghetto uprising failed"Bravo Kateryna. You truly are a creative genius
>>2509220Hm, Hitler leads Germany? Gimme a moment*Checks Wikipedia*>Adolf Hitler... Führer of GermanyBravo Panzer. You're a genius
>>2509394>axis victory mod has Hitler at the startWell yeah obviously it makes sense>axis victory mod lazily cribs basically all of its events from wikipediaBoring, low effort slop. And the stuff they don't pull from Wikipedia is hardly any better, here's looking at you, Kat stealing shit from Suzerain in a way that just seems uninspired, somehow more uninspired than my homebrew fantasy setting that's made of stolen stuff
>>2509394This is not the gotcha you think it is, Kate.
>Sooty>Sooty>SootyYour izzat is wrecked. Your only way to redeem yourself and your izzat is to get Josh to talk about Kateryna's gayop.
Save me Red Italy save me...
New event in RA.
>>2509531why are tno spinoffs obsessed with stale memes
>>2509531Coal
>>2509540>tno spinoffs
>>2509569
>>2509569>>2509570>hell, who else is left?This hits so much now.
Devniggers only cutted onto everything except their reek of preachiness.
>>2509637Funny how 2021 detractors sound exactly like the nudevs. Really makes you think
>>2509661Well yeah nudevs hate the mod so of course they'll sound like detractors.
>>2509661Isn’t this basically the mike cope? That he’s an “old detractor” that hated the whackyness and wanted a good narrative?
>>2509677Mike's cope is that plus the insane idea that there was a 50-50 split in the community between the groups and that there was a huge, widespread disappoinment over the lack of hyper realism. This despite the demos focusing on shit like Huttig in Africa and Lysenko in the Urals. Just shit he made up just like how he made up DV being pro-white propaganda.
This lockdown is really fucking boring someone leak something PLEASE
im not gonna lie us content is my favourite in the mod and if they just make new content for it its gonna be funthough it would be just as good if they did canada / britain / brazil / australia
>>2509899The US content you like has to go, I'm afraid. Because Mango was upset that Trump won an election.
>>2509906Yippie has been in dev since before trump…
>>2509907Trump had just left office about a year before work started. A lot of the TDS seething is going into the Nixon route which is in the Vote Pig design doc linked in the OP. However when Trump was elected in 2024 several paths were reworked such as Chrisholm becoming more prominent, Romney being cut and replaced with someone more evil and several Republican paths randomly being reworked to explicitly be fascist. It really is a big fat mess.
Someone leak something interesting.Please.
>>2509909We have screenshots proving Romney was cut because his designer left. Nixons portrayal is just how the average liberal views him, no tds involved. I can’t speak for Chrisholm and the republicans turning fascist but until I see proof that their original plans didn’t have that than for all Ik that could’ve been the day 1 plan.
>>2509923Thanks for the damage control, dev.
Before 2016, liberals loved NixonTrump changed that
>>2509923The current Nixon portrayal is an evolution of a former submod headed by the current Nixon designer which was being worked on back when there were still plans to salvage the NPP
>>2509969
What about Nixon is portrayed wrong? I remember people here saying that they can't believe the is the "evil path" because in this leaked tree he could do shit like pass healthcareI would like to see actual criticism over the representation of people because I am autistic like that. Like I remember people saying Schaffly was blackwashed, but the FBI report in her said that she was wacko. She believed that Dems were in cahoots with the Soviets to opress the US, and she believed that the Atomic God was a gift from God to the American people that ought to be used more, so she being represted as liberally using them makes sense. I don't see how she isn't accurate to her far-right beliefsShe is presidentiable because she OTL wanted to be an elected positian, but she never managed to do it, finding in activism the last part to influence in society
>>2510164If it is the fascist yeah, I agree that is retarded. I won't defend the nudevs on that because it is a retarded take. I can't accept that belief from a Communist because they want to kill liberals more than fascists, but Mango isn't even one, so he just put that to larpI would have liked an actual fascist path using Ted Walker, but Mango on the topic ages ago said that a fascist path would defeat the point of the New Right, which I kinda understand the perspective that you can't show how X people were evil if you have more evil people, but it is a miss. A fascist US is more plausible than a Socialist being elected and no serious mod ever attempts itI remember people in the Panzer era saying that they were reading Constitutional law to design what Yockey was going to do, it could have been so much kino
>>2510164I honestly wouldn’t mind if the dictator nixon path was a fascist populist instead of a personalist dictator. I do kinda like the idea of america gradually shifting into a fascist state by applying the institutions set up by the new deal to its maximalist extent instead of electing an outright fascist who’s pitch is fascism Fascism as a brand would be politically toxic anyways, even if america was by all definitions fascist, they wouldn’t admit it and just say that they are a true democracy just adapting to the modern world while getting rid of treasonous elements (like political opponents and a very beefed up HUAC) anyways back to nixon. Exploring him as a fascist dictator would be pretty neat imo, nixon was probably the only person in the position to do something like that considering his broad popularity, his authoritarian tendencies, and his very based private opinions
>>2510164Dictator Nixon is a good path because it's funny and you can tell that a lot of bitter seething went into it. It's the only path that everyone seems hyped for. I personally believe it'll be unintentionally based and cool.
>>2510166I wrote a while back my thoughts on Yockey vs Hall and how fun it could be. Link to the discussion:https://arch.b4k.dev/vst/thread/1853188/#1861580>it's been 2 years alreadyI'm tired, boss.
Five (lead dev of TNO requiem) got VOOTED out today
How should we remove a dev?Requiem: Democratic voteTNO: Whatever the shit they did with Frosty
>>2509906i dont mind all new USA content as long as the general mechanics stay the same and theres some funny paths (even if theyre le bad)having success and min-maxxing elections is funthough these days its basically not possible anymore, i hope they at least keep the distinctions within the parties instead of moving to republican / democrat monoliths
>>2510572>>2510579requiem is DONEreworkclique 2 is here to stay
>>2510572>so rather than any kind of crashout or backstabbing or any paranoid affairs that are best put in the mod's storylines instead of happening within the mod team.Five throwing shade at TNO on the way out
>>2510579Difference is Five is still on the team
>>2510572And here’s his replacement
>>2510572>Lead leaves after a vote>His replacement is someone from the same group>Nothing ever happensSeems like a nothingburger. They always had the Pacifica-era system of votes and unless the new guy's been lying to everyone all along I don't think anything drastic is changing especially since the old lead's still a lead dev but focusing on developing his tags instead.>>2510595That's the thing. It's two people that got along trading places and the old lead's still doing his thing. In TNO terms, alarmism over this would be like pretending that the regular TNO team was back to the Panzerite era because Mango traded places with QPQ while remaining US lead. Not exactly the same but you get what I'm saying.
>>2510572>TAS should have never been made he sounds basedi really don't know who thought it would be a good idea to make a new unifier based on 5 years old memei wish requiem would focus on more sensible unifiers like wrrf also whoever is pushing that brezhnev clique meme should be kicked out
>>2510604afaik TaS was sold to the team as being solid as a rock but then they realized that it was the modding version of a Potemkin village. Motherfuckers were lied to, simple as. That's why it happened.
>>2510608integrations are supposed to be relatively easy because you're just working on content that's already done and just tying it into the rest of the mod.But from what it sounds like they had an awful time, and had a shit project and did their best to salvage something from it.Also the new guy in charge sounds generic, but that's not bad considering how many "interesting" people are involved in TNO itself.
>>2510604The funniest things about TaS for me is there is an event where Belozersky has to explain what a zemsky sobor is to KazemBekImagine an event where Haldeman has to explain what the midterms are to Nixon
>>2510170Nixon is a horrible choice for a fascist dictator wydm? Honestly if you really want to make him a dictator the current idea of him just following public opinion works better, even if I'm not a big fan of the idea in the first place. If you want a fascist dictatorship pick an actual fascist to head it, not the very definiton of "American centrist", even if a very paranoid one.
>>2510610That's what I mean. They were probably told that everything was nearly done by the Russians and then found out the hard way that it was all bullshit but that they had to salvage it since they already made an announcement. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.As far the interesting people on TNO... Yeah, I agree, I'll take a generic guy that just wants to get things done over a Mango. That's what most major mods that actually update have and it seems to work out for them.
>>2505828Lead dev of Requiem got booted out by his own team, lmao
>>2510688No he didn't, he's still a lead dev and working on his tags. Scroll up. One of the other veterans just won an election and nothing is majorly changing according to the new lead's statement. It's just like TNO's elections back in the day before Mango got in and abolished them.
what's the point of south america outside of columbia?
>>2510738There's a big cold war going on there between Brazil and Argentina with the superpowers supporting their preferred sidesBrazil (usually) supports liberal democracies in the region, while (Nu)Argentina supports fascist dictatorships all over latin america
>>2510748There is some odd shit in latin america like italy and iberia supporting the colombian government against the fascists who are supported by japan and argentina Mind you italy and iberia are pretty firm argentinian allies who send a ton of free aid and trade
>>2510789It's a little more complex than thatThe old conservatives in Bogota (laureanists) are basically francoists and they're supported by Iberia and GermanyNew Grenada is ideologically fascist and supported by Italy, Japan (who prefers the industrialists in new Grenada) and the condor brigade (international fascist volunteer brigade headquartered in Argentina)Argentina can't exert as much influence in the northern part of south america, so foreign alignments and support get muddled thereArgentina's mostly concerned about it's immediate neighbors in the southern cone
>>2510796Thanks for the clarification. I like that south america and argentina are a fascist hotbed. Both in the political and ideological sense It’s a lot more fun desu, Corporatism and fascism are pretty unique ideologies that didn’t get to flower in our timeline so it’s cool to see it in a latin american context
>>2510823If only Brazil was fascist
>>2510829According to what Mango says, Goulart and the PTB are fascist because they are labourist and coporatist...*sights*
>>2510942Honestly, I am starting to believe that mango, might be a brazillian. Cause that's literally the same rethoric they use against the center/right
Are there any Russians and Ukrainians in the team? Or like Arabs and Israelis? Is there potential for conflict? My soul yearns for some drama
>>2510942>According to what Mango saysHe should kill himself but won't.
>>2511003Nigger we just had the biggest drama in ages with Kate shutting down the Russia team with faked screenshots and the purged guy's friends leaking their internal documents here. The reason why things are calmer now is because they put the devcord on lockdown and got more uptight about their documents.>All other leads are fine with this and no one is being reprimanded
>>2511003Not drama worthy or anything but theres a lebanese-romanian guy (has to be the worst combination known to man) who is so salty about the existence of israel that he calls everything (and i mean EVERYTHING - except of course the arab conquest of the middle east and north africa) settler colonialism. He genuinely believes shit that the confederation of the Rhine was a settler-colonialist project by napoleon and once went on a tirade about how israel selling jaffa oranges is settler colonialism because jaffa oranges were originally palestinianHes harmless and all but i genuinely cant comprehend how people can live with this mindset
>>2511138At least he's upset at something worth being upset at. I get what you're saying and that it's disruptive but at least it's not another fag seething about random Internet drama or normie political parties.
>>2511138I wonder who could be behind this post...
qol shit from the new patch seems to be working fine except a couple of missing loc
wtf i didn't know italy can puppet francewhat happens if the reclamation starts?
>>2511409this is requiem yeah? in old versions it used to be a thing that italy / germany puppet the countries they win in their minigame (hungary, romania, serbia, bulgaria, france)
>>2511519yeah, france had a civil war and the italian aligned breakaway won i've never seen this before, i first played tno shortly before TT, but i still haven't played italy myself
So no content for Russia anytime this decade? 60% of the continent will just remain unplayable?
Didn't notice they re-added natsynd as economy type
https://www.reddit.com/r/TNOmod/comments/1xhql7n/huli_the_hawaiian_democratic_revolution_in_yippie/
>>2512098>politics politics politics politics politicsThis could(should) have been a TCT mod
>>2512098Do all these new teasers mean the update is coming out soon?
>>2512098Anything except having gameplay that matters I guess.>>2512143>The most overscoped update in HOI4 history might release early, before their best and most optimistic projectionsAre you high?
>>2512123Politics in a Cold War mod? Who could’ve guessed?
>>2512098 Not enough aura and hype momentsI'm bored
>>2512239>gee why would you want to fight wars in a wargame
>>2512239>Nothing ever happens in a wargame?>Who would've guessed?They'll never learn.
>>2512289Gentlemen, you can’t fight here! This is the war room!
>>2512289Hoi4 is a larp gameThe only thing Paradox sells you at this point is larp
>>2512446HOI4 is a Barbarossa simulator and all larp stems from that. What no one has managed to understand yet is why these people that hate the game go through the effort of removing everything about the game and then painstakingly turning it into a worse version of Victoria mixed with TCT when they could just use a different platform and not deal with the mod's original fanbase that now hates them and the absurd effort it takes to reinvent the wheel every time.
>>2512459Haven't played v3 past the tutorial myself but I remember posts about there being no proper warfare, with all combat being abstracted into just a couple buttons, like you select a general and you select a tactic or something and then it's just modifier hogging and dice rolling from that point onward, you can't even see your units on the map nor click and order them around. Isn't that quite literally what troons are trying to achieve with their decision tab wars? Why reinvent crutches when paradox already did it better
>>2512572Vic3 doesn't have focus trees, which are what hoi4 modding is entirely based around
>>2512582I thought there were mission trees like in imperator?
>>2512612It doesn't, and even if it did, EU4/Imperator style mission trees work nothing like national focuses, the former are basically just an optional gameplay guide which can provide some structure and direction to your gameplay where you can get some special rewards for meeting certain thresholds using the ordinary game mechanics. National focuses are themselves the gameplay and the narrative, giving you the rewards you want by just spending mana and some time, with mutually exclusive choices. It makes hoi4 very mechanically bland and basically unworkable as a simulation of any historical simulation, with almost everything resting on the scaffolding of focus trees, very inflexible, but easy to mod and write whatever narrative you want into the game using it.
Taboritsky acheivement in Vicky 3...where is that Russia dev moaning on Xitter how nothing they added (after 2022 or so) is relevant
>>2512828pacifica is on the vic3 team since leaving tno and finally added an achievement about her old contentshes lucky the reworkclique is too lazy to actually work on anything
>>2512828Extremely funny if true. Nothing the nudevs made will ever come close to being as relevant and popular as a schizophrenic man's fanfic about a Jewish Nazi doing killpeopleism over a dead child.
>>2512289I can sympathize with this view, and like KR and other mods do this greatly, but if you want a war game then you don't want to play a Cold War scenario, which its a valid takeI remember people here complaining that they were feeling like CIA bureaucrats and like, yeah? That should be the vibe
>>2512903It's ALT history. Just because OTL period was like that doesn't mean the althist period should be too. And I don't buy the whole M.A.D. excuse, right now at this very moment there are no less than 4 countries with enough nukes to make the planet less habitable than Venus yet somehow there are active military conflicts across the globe? My original post was about that Haiti snorefest, is it really THAT implausible that a war can happen between USA and Germany over Haiti and not immediately escalate into nuke flinging? Do you think that a major war in the Atlantic between the world's two strongest superpowers is less fun and exciting than some literal nobodies getting/not getting elected?And once again I question the wisdom of making a mod that eschews warfare in favor of internal politics in a game that eschews internal politics in favor of warfare. TCT is right there, it has all functionality nuTNO really needs with none that nuTNO doesn't need, and it's fucking easy to mod too, you would be able to actually release an update before someone gets purged and resets all progress. Why are you so intent on using microscopes to hammer nails?
>>2512098Nauru sloppa imagine my shock
>>2512922So tno should just waste several years of development and design to swap over to a completely new game that many would not have experience in? Also the decision to launch for hoi4 was because this was originally a vicky mod that moved over because hoi4 was easier to mod and had focus trees that drove the narrative forward
>>2512957>So tno should just waste several years of development and design to swap over to a completely new game that many would not have experience in?Yes. USA made chuddies.
tct isnt even a game, they might as well move the game to wattpad
>>2512963There's a slightly stronger case to be made for moving it something like the social democracy weimar game, but even then it's retarded, TNO is entirely national focus driven like all hoi4 total conversion mods.
>>2512967youre too obsessed with this visual novel ideatno still lets you influence proxies and have multiple stories run concurrently. those 2 games do not, they run on linear storiesyou could argue making one presidency work along that line but thats not what tno is trying to do
>>2512967Focuses on nuTNO are almost entirely used to deliver text messages and "effects" that just hint at societal development at least outside of Russia. At best, it's a CYOAB in terms of actual depth and you can easily replace the focuses with any other way to deliver text to the player. Using HOI4 as a base for what the mod has become is the stupidest choice ever.>>2512970None of these things really matter though and you might as well replace them with text too given how railroaded many are. If you look at the charts they even have specific outcomes in mind for most wars that are a binary as one's gender. Also no one gives a shit about which African tinpot dictator rules over a patch of land but you'll never understand this.
>>2512971ultimately staring at a map and painting a shithole into your sphere is fun when theres mapmodes for that to see who you controlstaring at text gets old real fast
>>2512971>Also no one gives a shit about which African tinpot dictator rules over a patch of land but you'll never understand this.What if they're a Russian tinpot dictator
>>2512995Thats russophobic af. Russian lives matter.
>>2512995Then we care because Russia is relevant to the events in the mod since they're supposed to fight a huge war in Russia. We also care because it's playable. If Africa was more like Russia in game and operated more like it does in other mods then we'd care about Africa too but the devs are making it all into unplayable otl skeletons so lmao.
>>2512831She's the whole narrative lead of the project. She made it.>>2512858It's real.https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/victoria-3-dev-diary-195-state-and-revolution-update-1-15-changelog.1947390/
bro is getting places nu tno devs are probably quietly seething https://x.com/PDX_Asteraceae/status/2115880585801482605
Interesting things going on with tno RA https://files.catbox.moe/vmt6sj.jpeg
>>2513036Sorry file got compressed, here’s the clean one https://files.catbox.moe/i83l8p.png
>>2513036>>2513037I'd recommend taking Revolutionary Nazism or Proletarian Nationalism from Requiem over Ordosocialism. Ordosocialism has a high chance of becoming a dead ideology that no one outside of Komi hears about. Both of those are meant to be NazBol-like which seems what you're going for. If it's actually meant to be left-leaning, go with National Communism.Not a major critique and more of a nitpick good job most likely getting this out before the nudevs get their Germany demo out.
>>2512957>just waste several years of development and designAre you unironically implying this is not already being done on a regular basis? At least "porting to a different game" would be a valid excuse lmao
>>2513040I’ll bring it up, but I gotta keep it on the down low. They don’t want me leaking this stuff But I just have to let the community see this kino for themselves. After everything the tno devs put us through, We all deserve to know that RA is in good hands
>>2513053Honestly just having it work and be maintained as a time capsule and prevented the nudevs from trying to jealously erase everything made by people that are better than them would've been enough. Adding more on top of this is you guys going the extra mile.
>>2513037Why are the commie guy's glasses so disfigured?
>>2513040Ordosocialism is getting the shaft anyway (once the dev team remembers Russia exists), see the serov rework blurb
>>2513037Not a fan of Kaiser Speer if it just happens for no reason- i would just have him purge the Triumvirate and go full personalist if he recovers, preparing his son for succession. Also fix your Schwab portrait, there are photos of him from the 70s and 80s out there.
>>2513238What relevance does that even have? Rises Again isn't run by devniggers so they're not going to ruin Russian lore for no reason just because the main mod is.
>>2513238Ordosocialism is just National Communism under a different name either way
>>2513425>Spread devnigger lies>Doesn't even know that Ordosocialism has already been rebranded to fascism for no reason other than to accommodate all the cuts they're makingUpdate your firmware.
IF kateryna is a guy and they say their lesbian doesn't that mean their straight but with extra steps?
>>2513037most retarded shit ever appealing to the lowest common denominator. What if we included Schwab from le heckin TFR isn't that a funny reference o algo
>>2513503It's just what a lot of failed guys do when they can't get women.>>2513509If only it was something sophisticated like a Wikiscrape where nothing ever happened.
>>2513509At least it's funny, so already better than literally anything in TrooNO
leak nu-ostland already.
What do you guys think are the odds of us getting an official delay in November? And if you think there’s gonna be a delay, when do you suspect the update will be released, although if you believe the update will come out by the end of December I’d like to hear why you think that.
>>2513663No one on the team seems to believe it is based on the leaks we got. You have Kateryna demanding that people stop posting demoralizing comments but even he should know better despite being a moron. Biggest problem with the update is that even if it gets done it'll be hated by most of the people that originally subscribed to the mod so delaying it for years might actually be the best way to keep the grift going.
>>2505829The fact that Kateryna could do all of this and be so blatant about it and you still have all the leads just be fine with it sums up why they deserve to suffer in each others company.>>2513663Whatever the likely release window is it wasn't helped by them demolishing their Russia team.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TNOmod/comments/1xkazm4/stones_for_the_rampart_the_polish_uprising_in_the/another toooozer
>>2513758Before even opening the image I want to assert that a country in a strategic position, at the crossroad of every existing superpower's interests will have zero combat outside of decision tab, and some "electoral deadlock" is the closest thing to a conflict there'll beNow let's see if I'm wrong
>>2513764How would America or Japan even reach the Poles
>>2513427>Doesn't even know that Ordosocialism has already been rebranded to fascism for no reason other than to accommodate all the cuts they're makingWhat?Ordosocialism has always been either in the Fascist or National Socialist slot
>>2513758>it’s ANOTHER GUI-only war
>>2513758>Rework a tag for several years >Kill and restart the reworks several times >End up just replacing the war that happens during GCW with something that's also ends with Poland being crushed by the same people but now there's a bloated GUI attached
>>2513788He means that it's just going to become a generic ideology the same way they removed many other Russian ideologies.
>>2513809Check the bottom of the image
>>2513818I don't think he counts a war with a predetermined outcome. Also no, deciding who gets to auto win doesn't count, please don't finish writing that sentence.
>>2513818The non-GUI war is predetermined, it's basically a scripted cutscene of Germans steamrolling Poles, the actual war is fought in the decision tabBut credit where credit's due, at least it's not a fucking TCT emulator this time
>>2513758Once again, TNO reworks itself for half a decade only to end up at a worse version of square one.>>2513841The fact that you have to give them credit for something as simple as being more than a few textboxes is bleak.
With all these teasers coming out every week or so do you guys think the update will actually come out by the end of December? Or is this just like them trying to make it seem like work on the update is getting done but in reality it isnt while trip feeding people teasers of shit people don’t care much for anyways. Except the international organizations teaser that was pretty cool.Point is usually when this many teasers come out in a short span of time they usually announce a release date for the update so I’m kind of confused.
>>2513809In what world would Germany vs Poland be anything but an auto-win for Germany?
>>2513878What’s the motive behind releasing these teasers if the update is so far behind in development? To keep there starving fans hyped for some lame ass GUI war in Poland that has zero affect on game out come sense its predetermined to be a German victory every time?
>>2513882GCW Anarchy
>>2513878It’s for sure coming this year or January. The only bottleneck is coding in the Hall content, but other than that they are more than on pace to make it.
>>2513889You are about several years too late for that one.
>>2513882It wouldn't now that they have total plot armor and you removed all difficulties for the tag so you might as well not even have it. If the GCW was a thing then that might be different. But of course, you've removed everything that could possibly make this anything but a railroaded experience where nothing ever happens.>>2513878>>2513893This is like when they talked about Brazil only needing a few pieces of loc for over a year.
>>2513758>>2513903TFR mogged the shit out of you fags with a playable post-apocalyptic American warlord era.
>>2513908Idk about what Brazil stuff got leaked but Yippie has had stuff get leaked that shows they are on pace for a December release (theoretically).
>>2513911Just you wait until Tnokiller mod Tno rises again adds Klaus Schwab and rapes tno in the assholeMango will kill himself out of shame
>>2513921No, it doesn't. The Git content was completely unplayable for the most part.
>>2513878Where did you get such optimism from, talking about a quick update release process that will rework the entire world? If you believe in the theory that the more teasers are published, the closer the update release is, that’s not how it works.I have a clear rationale and explanation: the regular release of teasers doesn’t mean rapid progress on the update. The TNO devs themselves have emphasized that they’re "working" without paying attention to the hype or wasting time on teasers. As for the teasers, they’ve been in the game for a long time- since early summer imo - but they were only recently posted online to create the illusion of progress.Don’t make up unrealistic scenarios-Yippie won’t be released in 2026, or even in January; instead, a delay of several months will be announced.
>>2513928When was that git leak from? Regardless, more recent leaks show they are pretty likely to get done by December.
>>2513947Their entire Git was leaked in July and you're mentally ill if you think they went from having barely anything work after 1964 to finishing everything in a few months. Some of the content they've teased is also unchanged from the Git leak. The driving GUI only had some tooltip changes. I didn't touch the Germany demo build myself but the US branch was a mess and them teasing content that was leaked in the summer a few months later is not a sign of health.
Spongebob mod update is fully functional. All that is left is localization for the events. Expect a big happening soon
Gonna be a nudev advocate for a bit (may Allah kindly forgive me for committing atrocity of this magnitude) and argue that the Polish rebellion being a railroaded cutscene is actually alright because it's not about Poles at all, the real war is the war for influence fought between Wehrmacht and SS, which (hopefully) in the future will affect both German paths and paths of Eastern occupied lands. Poland is like Belgium in vanilla goy4, its sole purpose is to serve as a stepping stone for a country that actually matters. And the rivalry between Wehrmacht and SS can't plausibly be fought as a real proper war so there's a valid excuse for GUI troonery this time
>>2513961I too noticed that it is more about Wehrmacht (Goring) and the SS (Himmler) and influence in the East. If you look at the Moscowien rework chart there is a similar thing with the SS vs SA, I believe there is also something in the Belarus Rework chart about how if Himmler wins he can do plans to Germanize Belarus which is interesting. I wonder how these will affect the decisions Germany can make for the Eastern occupied lands.
>>2513969If Himmler's Germany path ever comes out it will be fun to see his plans for the East if the SS can win in all of the nations in the East. I'm sure it'll be just as cool too do Speers path and have Ukraine and Belarus become a protectorate like the Baltics and have Russia become independent under Oktan or Kaminiski and annex all of the Russian warlords after the 2WRW.
>>2513951Between July and Now how much work do you think has been done?
>>2513974If it took them several years in order to only have 1968 content partly done the most optimistic estimation I can give is that some of the routes are up to 1970 but that seems unlikely given the rough state it was in back then.
to be honest i want yippie to drop so i can play as Brazil and Iberia i enjoy the regional and great powers more than superpowers
>>2513974In one month (September) they made a thousand pieces of loc, out of a total needed of 7,000, so I would say a lot.
>>2514080You're such a gaslit faggot lmao. Do you even understand that even if that was true all the mechanics that were completely fucking broken in that build would have to be made?
>>2514090I’m not sold that the mechanics are broken. Like obviously when the build came out they were but considering that dev screenshot where most of them said they were going to be ready for 2026 I feel like they fixed it. Plus people have said the main bottleneck was loc and we have hard evidence that they have fixed that recently.
>>2514105And also I don’t know when that branch was made. It got leaked in mid 2026 but it could be from before that, especially because Argentina wasn’t in it and we know that they had Argentina’s new skeleton in game around that same time when that guy leaked it for the first time.
>>2514105>>2514107They didn't work in the build and that was leaked by a guy that ragequit the mod dropping what was the latest version at the time. Anyway it's clear from your posts that you don't know how a Git works or what branches are so why should anyone listen to your coping?
>>2514109Even if that really was the most up to date build I still believe they could have made progress on it since then. And as for not knowing how Git works, what do you mean? The branch that got leaked was the main Yippie branch, which I would assume would have the Argentina stuff since that’s part of the Yippie update. Idk why they would have a separate branch just for Argentina.
>>2514122You're coping so hard that you make Mike seem like Mango's biggest a-log holy shit.
>>2514123Is it a crime for a goy to believe
>>2514125yes
>>2514132Fuck you
>>2514145Cope and seethe.
>>2512098At least people on Twitter seem to hate this change.
>>2512098I don't get the goal here, are they just trying to make the mod into an even bigger visual novel than it already is?
>>2514221Xitter completely hates most of their new stuff. Just look at the reaction to DV. It was bad enough to send them into the Mangobunker.>>2514222Yes.
>>2514222TNO always was a visual novel from the very inception back in panzer days, immediately disregard any retard that tells you otherwise. The difference is that panzer knew how to use various gameplay mechanics as vehicles for his storytelling, rather than just bombarding you with fanfics about electoral deadlocks, so despite functionally being a reading simulator most of the time it didn't really feel like one back then. Not to mention that the subject matter itself was different (=better), even text events like a deposed Russian tsar building vodka factories to fund his reunification wars, which I considered unneeded fillers at the time, were still lightyears ahead of wikiscraped centristwank the mod consists of now
>>2514269It's not a VN of it also has a lot of regular gameplay to drive the story. Then it's just a strategy game with a heavy focus on story. But it's still a strategy game much like many others that have a lot of story elements but still function as actual games. Semantics though, even if it was a VN proper it'd at least show sparks of creativity and soul unlike shit ripped from Wikipedia, the Suzerain fan Wikia or is a stand in for commentary on contemporary politics.
>>2513758I actually kind of like this ngl.
>>2514446What is there even to like? It's just another pointless minigame and they effectively spent five years of reworking on absolutely nothing. Any necessary change is a byproduct of them removing the GCW and reworking the entire continent from scratch.
>>2514152I really do think the update is coming out soon. I do not think they would make this many teasers without reason. It also wouldn’t make sense for them to do this to build up for a delay announcement.
I think it depends on how efficient their gfx team is since that seems to be the main bottleneck.Btw can someone drop the newest roundtable?
>>2514489someone should drop the newest roundtable.
>>2514489>NuTNO is the only mod that'll meet all its deadlines despite being the most overscoped shit ever>NoTNO will be the fastest developed thing ever>Unlike every other mod out there and despite all mechanics in the Git being completely busted, NuTNO's bottleneck is gfx and loc>Both of these were completely fucked a few months ago too but NuTNO isn't affected by reality because the devs said that it was all fine>Mexico/Brazil/Iberia just need a few more pieces of locBrutal levels of coping.
>>2514539Never said anything about its release other than idk.>Mexico/Brazil/Iberia just need a few more pieces of locIberias problem was testing and Mexico released out of the blue and by suprise.
>>2514467>pointlessShut the fuck up chud, whether the SS or the Wehrmacht gets to pacify Poland and gain +0.6 faction power will be extremely important in the electoral gridlock in the reworked skeleton of Germany (no confirmed release date yet, probably late 2070)
>>2514606It’s not skeleton
>>2514605You're either new here or incredibly gaslit.>X only needs a bit more locIs a meme here because it's a standard cope by the devs. Brazil in particular got a lot of this treatment and ended up being delayed by an entire year after the lie started to be peddled. Mexico didn't release out of nowhere either. If you followed development at the time you'd know that it was troubled, delayed and meant to release alongside Brazil. That time, the cope was that it was "just completed sooner than Brazil" as a way to obfuscate how messy development was both for the Mexico demo and Brazil.>>2514608OK, fine. The Germany demo that has been in the works since 2021 which will released with at least two Fuehrer's skeletonized whenever it drops in 2027-8.
I have never played TNO as everything I’ve ever heard about its modern state has been the expected railing against its implosion. Is it worth it for a first time play through? And if so, what is the path that’s least bad. Are any of the fan forks worth it?
>>2514627The fan forks are fine. If you're going to play TNO today those are the preferred versions on the board. Rises Again is a time capsule for the original version of TNO and is a good way to experience what the mod was on release while Requiem is something of a middle ground that tries to build upon the mod's latter glory days it had in 2022. Requiem also has a complete rebalance and lots of bug fixes to combat compared to the main mod since it's more gameplay oriented.If you're playing it for the first time then playing in Russia is usually the best way to start out as it's the one closest to the original and often seen as the most popular. Novosibirsk, Samara, WRRF, Kemerovo and Irkutsk are decent tags to start out with there. Germany is also alright to start with and is more heavy on political content while still having lots of conflicts. Another one to try is Guangdong in Requiem as it's a good representation of TNO's later ambitions done right as it has a heavy focus on story and economics in a unique cyberpunk Zaibatsu dystopia.
>>2514631Gotcha I figured at least one had to be good. And makes sense to start with Russia as that always what people seem to talk about through the grapevine, and I hadn’t heard about Guangdong, I’ll check that out.Any good paths for USA/ENG? Is it worth it do do any 2’d tier powers like Italy?
>>2514638>USARFK and Wallace should be very interesting and challenging>ENGtheir new content is only 3ish years long, toggle old Britain back if you want a full 10 year campaign>ItalyNot worth it honestly, very little to actually do until the final 2 years, and that’s having to deal with the oil crisis which will rape your economy
>>2514638ayrt.>USAWallace is your best bet for some early alt history fun. Getting him elected is a lot easier if you don't pick LBJ as an opponent by the way.>ENGYou can actually enjoy the old content via game rules or if you play Rises Again. The latter might actually be better if you just want a pure retro experience. Thatcher is pretty alright in that one. The reworked content released in 2023 as a demo but it has since been in endless rework hell and stagnation since the Britain lead banned all his old colleagues and killed it. Tale as old as time.>2nd powersBoth Italy and Iberia are kinda bad. Italy's supposed to get content in Rises Again though. They managed to find a scrapped build that had nearly finished an Italy rework with everything except the fabled Red Italy paths. Why was it scrapped? Too much gameplay so they went back to square one and the lead was purged, lol. You're probably starting to see why the mod turned out the way it did under the people that hijacked the mod.
>>2514638Guangdong is really really good and is a higher priority to play than America or Germany trust me. Any of the Russian Warlords are fun too. Play Requiem instead of Rises Again and then pick the Russian Warlord Novosibirsk and you also get content for a war with Germany and post war content which was added by the 2WRW submod that Requiem used to be years ago before it expanded. Highly recommend.For Third powers honestly Brazil is fun too and worth just downloading main TNO to play Lacerda or Adhemar (they have paths up to the 70s). It's not present in either RA or Requiem so I'd say it's worth at least one try on main TNO.Last recommendation idk if its out of date but the Chinese submod Long and Arduous Road is very good. Adds content for fighting Japan as the ROC too main TNO.
>>2514774>Brazil Honestly you can get the best experience from the demo still included in Requiem. After that it kinda drags and it's hampered by them trying to turn everything into an abrasive minigame. Which sucks because there are parts there that could be good if they didn't shoot themselves in the foot all the time.
>>2514631Does RA also feature the old map, atlantropa and all?
>>2514783Lacerda's and Adhemar's minigames are fairly easy to understand and relatively unobtrusiveMain drawback with their paths is that you can't finish their whole focus trees because you're interrupted by mid-term crises
>>2514865Yes.>>2514877I still dislike them.
>>2514882>Yes.Based! God bless whoever is working on RA for preserving TNO in its heyday. Before you've even answered I've downloaded and checked the thing out myself, and now I', certain that once nudevs finally give up and fuck off to go ruin something else, RA will indeed Rise Again as the mainline TNO, with TroonNO relegated to trashbin of history as it deserves
>>2514887Have fun, anon!
Any idea of what the next update beyond Yippie is? Have the devs planned that out yet?
>>2515029The Germany rework, I guess? Lord knows how long that'll take them if it's been five years and they're still struggling to finish the demo.
>>2515040In the roundtable recently it was : Russia Patch 2, V&J, and Manchuria that were listed as post-yippie updates.Russia dev died recently, Manchuria has been dead if i remember correctly, and I have no hope for V&J. Genuinely curious what the dev team will do post-yippie.
>>2515048Isn’t the only V&J holdup Speer? I feel like at some point they would decide to just split it.
>>2515048Most likely:>Thing releases in a poor state if it isn't delayed by a year>Mango fucks off after having turned the mod into his Kamalist political manifesto>Everyone else starts infighting 5 seconds later
>>2515050Having Germany go from four routes half a decade ago to one after several years of disruptive reworking would be a disaster even these people would be ashamed of.
>>2515048Is this one of the roundtables that was already leaked or the newest one, if its a new one that isn't leaked post it.
>>2515062nevermind it was a previously posted one I just checked. Still if someone does have the newest roundtable notes that would be great.
I wonder how long it'll take for Bormann, Speer, Himmler, Goering, and Heydrich, to get full content, and not to mention the sub-paths like the Communists & Democratic Germany, I wonder what the whole "Remer's 4th Reich" thing is gonna be in the Bormann TNO2 flowchart. I wonder if it'll all be skeleton in Yippe! or not.
>>2515065Nigga if they hadn't even begun working on several of these just a few months ago how woudl they finish it all by now?
>>2515065Yippie Bormann content is going to be identical to the current Bormann content post-kampfzeit, and it's pretty much guaranteed that you won't get to see Remer even in V&J
>>2515071>>2515076Never said they'd finish it for Yippe! or V&J, I just wondered if they'd Skeleton any of the post 1972 stuff for Germany.
>>2515139Why does it even matter when none of that would be interactable?
what do you think their excuse for delaying it will be ? my money is they are going to blame frosty for it and make him the scapegoat
>>2515308Their default approach is to just not acknowledge it and announce a new date later.
New toozer dropped https://www.reddit.com/r/TNOmod/comments/1xmvk75/happy_election_day_the_1972_candidates_and/ You can now apologizing for spreading lies about the lack of Yippie progress
>>2515342>Another toozer showing the skeletal features of unfinished content that war leaked ages ago anyway At least they were nice enough to write up some preachy tooltips after we bullied them the last time over content we got back in the summer.
>>2515308 I remember them originally saying jt was gonna release q4 of 2026 or q1 2027. They will probably act like it was always gonna release in 2027.
>>2515308On one hand it's more likely that they'll just pretend they never announced anything and tell remoonders to shut up. But blaming a guy that did nothing except possibly disagree with their plans if even that and delaying it by a year despite Russia dev being the least broken part of the leaks is such a shitty and shameless move that you might be right.>>2515342You devs touching up shit from several months ago isn't fooling anyone lmao.
>>2515342looking through the comments, everyone beside wholesome chungus libs got banned yeahi will say for trying to be realistic they found a way to give all of them a sort of gamer absurdism, like they are supposed to be memed
>>2515356Yippie is a farce on american politicsAll of the presidents unique mechanics are comedic in some way
>>2515360Well what did you expect? It's just some retarded shitlib's political fanfic.
Wallace to Connally will be fun, besides Nixon Dictatorship that seems to be the coolest path for America, I heard Connally can even turn into a Fascist Populist if he runs as a Republican in 1976 (lol). Still, it would have been way cooler had they just been able to have actual Fascists be elected.
If they continue to put out teasers at the rate they've been doing I might just become a Mango Plan truster lol... but no its cope because most of this shit was leaked over the summer so is it really progress? I don't know... Some progress has been made admittedly.
Bro these redditors are so fucking cringe, whats with this Chrisholm glaze, shes literally just a sheboon nigger-"american", sooo wholesome chungus... its like these redditors get a hard on for the most wholesome chungus paths like RFK to Chrisholm.
>OMG guys I spit my coffee right out of my mouth when I saw Wallace as Chrisholms VP, like isnt he the le heckin' unwholesome racist guy? what is she doing being the VP for my black queen, ChatEBT! what dat mean?
>>2515371One of the most common questions a HOI4 player asks is "What is the most wholesome chungus 100 path?"The other one is "What is the most evilest killpeople-iest paths?"
>>2515367I actually think it looks better than Nixon. Making the Democratic Party a statist, reactionary entity and dominating the Cold War looks really fun.
>>2515370At least you're not overdosing on the copium.>>2515371I'm sure this realization must've come at you like a bolt of lightning from a clear sky.
>>2515373Why are you so butthurt towards that
>>2515308They didn't blame anyone from previous delays (Brazil for example), I don't see why would they start nowEveryone in the team knows that the delay is inminent, they are just waiting for Mango to decide when to make the official announcement. I don't see how they could blame anyone else other than Mango himself given that Yippie's delay is because they wanted to mix all the content they could in one update to larp that TNO is rebirthing
>>2515402its just like low frequency lib goycattle redditor shit that is cringe.
>>2515371Nigga, TNO's fanbase was always this way lmao, the mod invented the Sablin glaze. Also his content is armchair communism copium, there aren't any drawbacks for trying to implement libertarian socialismAlso, the concept of making a Leninist a libertarian socialist because he hated Brezhnev or something
>>2515408Sablin at least isn't a nigger and the music is cool
I wonder what TNO would have been had the rework realism clique never took control of the mod, I know Rise Again is supposed to be that but I always wondered what the actual mod would look like today had Atlantropa been done correctly and how much more cool shit would have been added by now. Not to say I hate the direction of the mod now I think I'll still enjoy it but I feel like after Yippe! comes out it will no longer feel like TNO and feel like some entirely different, really the only thing left that is from original mod would be the Russian Warlords which I'm sure will be reworked too once they get around to it.
Man it's awesome seeing miserable loosers here seething cus they see people loving Yippie and they just can't handle it
>>2505828So TNORA update is finally on steam"Updated TNORA on steam! This has the complete Gang of Four/Fuhrerdemokratie path which runs until about 1981. Probably will revisit in the future as time goes on but after several months it's finally in a more or less complete state!"It also includes the integration off Penelope web into the game,new mechanics and as well as new proxy wars in Vietnam madagascar and the new scramble for Africa as well.And speaking off news what is the deal now with TNO?
>>2515412Probably something like Requiem. Without the hijack you'd need to have Pacifica there and Pacifica's ambition was to have a lot more and new Russian unifiers. RA is more of a Panzerite mod, and that gives us a point of divergence before 2023 if you want his design philosophy around.The good part is that thanks to us having two reduxes everyone's taste is catered to.
I think Yippe! looks really cool and I hope they are able to get it out soon without it being buggy as hell. I am expecting a delay though but who knows maybe by some miracle they'll manage to get it out by December 31st.
>>2515483Hope into one hand and shit into the other and see which one fills up first.
>>2515421Kaiser Speer, Ordosocialist Germany and Klaus Schwab are something Panzer era TNO wouldn't entertain
>>2515493Still better than a retards fantasy about Kamala Harris saving America in the 60s.
>>2515522if tno was made in 2024 it would have been about that vote vote vote its our moment crap. The mod was completely 2020 brained on release Harrington was essentially just Bernie even though its a completely different era and timeline. Evil Germany railroaded to fail unless it embraces reformism btw. Your nostalgia bores me. Stop pretending you know anything about American politics.
>>2515531And now we're getting 30 shades of liberalism and everyone's a pragmatic realism enjoyer. Way better. Fuck off shill.
>>2515380>What is the most evilest killpeople-iest paths?
>>2515544You don't know what any of those words clearly. Because yeah Burton, Goldwater, Schafly, Yorty, Conally, Chislom, Reagan, and Wallace are all clearly pragmatic realists o algo
>>2515558>Tries to act as a high and mighty intellectual>Fucks up the first sentence right out of the gameThat was a reference to Germany by the way. Somewhat exaggerated but them setting aside ideology, race and all other beliefs to let Africans and Slavs rule their own lands as part of the EU is definitely in line with how you can only survive if you're a "realist" in TNO - except now all paths are "realistic". If you can consider shit like Germany being fine with BNWO Sweden supporting every German-slaughtering black nationalist in Africa realistic but we've beaten that dead horse into a pulp already.
>>2515421What does Requiem actually change? I haven't played it, but I keep reading that it is old TNO and like, what did they change, only Russia? Like, is the economic system still the same? I don't really get why then people act like there is this big break between it and modern TNO
>>2515642They didn't take on the broken Antarctica map and aren't taking on any new reworks. So any of TNO's more polarizing stuff is just gone and instead they went down a more gameplay oriented route. It's like a middle ground between the three major versions.
>>2515686>So any of TNO's more polarizing stuff is just gone and instead they went down a more gameplay oriented routI might be retarded, but I don't see how this is more gameplay oriented if they stuck with 2023 TNO, sure, I can get it if you make the case about Russia, is just that I don't think the "polarizing stuff" was ever implemented between 2023 and now so I don't know what they changed exactlyI don't like the old Africa setup to be honest but I understand people liking it and I understand the argument now that DV is a thingI am a nerdy faggot so things like Gleen being presented as a progressive irritates me, but one must accept that other people aren't as austic as one
>>2515735Because you don't have the new map where every province is a victory point, you don't have Antarctica and 500 more GUI minigames dragging down the game's performance, combat has been rebalanced entirely so tanks and other units can actually be used now and instead of putting out demos for third world countries they're adding content that affects the largest wars in the mod. In terms of polarizing updates I mainly refer to the broken Antarctica map, deleting all the content in Africa, deleting Burgundy, deleting the GCW and replacing it with a demo, etc etc I could go on but not adopting any of the huge reworks in main TNO is a big deal. Perhaps you're just not feeling it because while these decisions were made in 2025 the reworks have been delayed by several years so the shit that caused the fork hasn't been finished yet for the main mod (despite annual claims that it's just around the corner).
The worst part about the midterms is Mango and his buddies being annoying.
>>2515765That's just him being normal and regurgitating MSNBC.
>>2515765In comparison to the malfoid and anakin posters, mango and his crew are practically gem posters They earned yesterdays W
>>2515746I guess, thanks for the answer. I don't see how the victory points for example ruin the game, but I guess they fuck with tradicional HOI4 mechanicsDo people honestly, like the German Civil War? I remeber in the Panzer days that people complained that you had tp sit throught it, and that it never changed, to get to the plot you wanted with GermanyNowadays I do see people saying that it was kino and what not, although I suspect they do it out of contratianism. Like, when the PCR got remover people were acting as if it was a popular warlord and what notI have to recognize still that I am the target audience for the nudevs because I honestly care more about the politics than map-warfare, althought I believe the second has to exist somewhere to not make things boring
>>2515944When people complained about the old GCW, they did so in the hopes it would get improved, not fucking removed with no replacement. There's no contrarianism whatsoever in nuTNO criticism, the mod is objectively and provably worse than it was in panzer era, with less gameplay and less creativity.Victory points are mostly just an eyesore and inconvenience. While they do fuck with hoi4's war mechanics, it doesn't matter since there are no wars in nuTNO
>>2515944>I don't see how the victory points for example ruin the gameBecause now you can't see your units. Which isn't a problem for nuTNO because they're remiving all the wars but the map often being difficult to read because of all the pointless shit and clutter isn't a good thing. Having everything be a victory point also complicates the 2WRW which is a big deal for Requiem whereas nuTNO will never need to worry about that either because it's never done or because it'll be reduced to a GUI minigame between Russia and Germany where you click on provinces in Moskowien to put resources on a map or some bullshit.
>>2515979Just say you live in a third world shithole with a potato powering your computer.
>>2515944I remember countless posts and people saying the civil war should have been removed it was the popular opinion back in the day. Everything else is gas lighting. I remember countless people wanting Burgundy removed as well. And those people won. I'd like to kindly remind everyone that we only really got content for new tags when mango took over. What did we get before him? Skeleton upon Skeleton, cutting room floor, and Brazil which was made by a submod team. Its just the cold reality that most people in this thread only ever cared about tno becuase of its wacky schizo characters and were able to ignore the fact it had little to no wars. Not it just has less wacky characters but still little to no wars.
Guys I was banned from the tnocord without even interacting or saying anything there ONCE. Was anyone banned as well?
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>>2516104in b4 your Discord profile banner is a Nazi march and your pronouns are listed as Sieg/Heil.
>>2516091Yes katerina you are completely right I totally remember it was all exactly as you say
>>2516091>This is what devs tell themselves as a coping mechanismThis is some next level shilling. Reminder that everyone hates you.
>>2516091If no one did anything before your boss and friend Mango why is there so much content for you to remove and why do you get fun of every time you venture outside of your devcord? Omitting things like Guangdong and others that eclipsed anything you've achieved is quite the choice too.None of your shit has actually released yet lmao.
>>2516128Literally nothing like this. Idk why they banned me in particular
>>2516133I don't know if you were back on Reddit back then (I kind of doubt it given the politics of this place), but I was lmaoIts a funny bit when people here want to pretend that the original base of TNO were Chuds and not Vauchites. People move here as if the original Panzerite lore wasn't that the US would "betray" Zhukov, and that fascism was doomed to fail (unlike modern TNO in which it can survive)
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>>2516182>>2516184>I've a veteran Redditor and I managed to find years old posts that agrees with my world view so I won the argument heil MangoThis is not the gotcha you think it is, dev.
I literally can't explain why I was banned in the cord. I didn't message anything nor was there anything controversial in my profile
>>2516188t. @1488goeringfan1488
>>2516182>>2516184I think your screenshots just prove that the current TNO developers never liked TNO, never engaged with TNO on it's on merit and never understood TNO. >Its a funny bit when people here want to pretend that the original base of TNO were Chuds and not Vauchites. People move here as if the original Panzerite lore wasn't that the US would "betray" Zhukov, and that fascism was doomed to fail (unlike modern TNO in which it can survive)You see Panzer is infinitely more talented than you. Even if I disagree with his political opinions I would still enjoy his content much more than yours because he creates better stories and narratives and some of the stuff he made was co-opted by the chuds which made him mad (see Heydrich) because it touched that edgy horror nieche. No one will ever feel the same way towards your poland and ostland reworks. Even if they paint fascism in a more positive light they're still dull and soulles otlist wikiscrapes that have nothing to say
>>2516192The most controversial shit I had in my bio was an Italy ASCII. My discord name is squaschi and I have no other info on my profile.
>>2516182the problem is modern TNO fascism isn't a killpeopleism hype moments and aura compilation which makes it boring and neoliberal
>>2516194Mango was literally on the team on the Panzer days lmao, until he retired to try to do Torch of the ProtectorateI don't think the social capital of the mod changed to the scale you imagine between 2019 and 2026, all the current people in the team are formal fans or joined because they were interested in working on a deeper political modBut my personal theory is just that people grew up, random guy turned Esoteric Nazi isn't the pinacle of content that it was when you were 16
>>2516199But yeah, thanks for agreeing. The devs just grew up. Like in KR a similar thing has happened, althought that keeps being a war-game, people are more interested in researching that in making shit up
>>2516201If that was the case, why did TNO lose the race to 600K against a much younger mod? If people grew up and started to love nothing ever happening, why is the mod so stagnant? If this was a common thing, why aren't we seeing these kinds of extreme overhauls anywhere but the mod that a bunch of people who hate HOI4 hijacked?
>>2516208You devs are so insufferable. It's no wonder you never venture outside your controlled environments. The rest of the modding community despises you.
>>2516201>Mango was literally on the team on the Panzer days That doesn't disprove what I said. We have many cases of projects having major people leave and the whole thing falling apart without them. >joined because they were interested in working on a deeper political modBut TNO was never about being a deeper political mod. It was a pulp fiction style emotional rollercoaster that wasn't afraid to throw blood and guts at you. It used to be actually scary. >But my personal theory is just that people grew upThat's a childish conception of maturity. Growing up doesn't mean that you cannot make vulgar or edgy content and enjoying this type of content doesn't make you dumber than someone who worships suzerain as pinnacle of storytelling. Once again I want to reiterate that Panzers edgy orgy of violence was much deeper and had more to say than your current 'historically accurate' and 'mature' edition because he at least poured his own thoughts into it rather than giving you an overview of Wikipedia in a tno coat of paint.
>>2516182I became a nazi after playing TNO in 2022 and m perfectly fine with the direction this mod goes. Commieniggers lost, wackos lost.
>>2516219Reminder that you're arguing with a man that tried to sue a fan Wiki.
>>2516209>If that was the case, why did TNO lose the race to 600K against a much younger mod?Because the HOI4 base likes wargames and slop (hype and aura) momments, it isn't a secret. The most iconic parts of TNO were Tabby and Omsk. With TNO no making updates in years and TFR being what it is (a succesor to Red World and current political memes) it isn't a surprise that its popular. HOI4 isn't meant to be a political game, what TNO aspired to turn it into was always a niche thing. HOI4 youtubers can't exactly make funny videos about the struggles of passing land reform in Brazil, and the average person isn't interested in the Cold War politics of Africa>If people grew up and started to love nothing ever happening, why is the mod so stagnant? TNO requires more effort (the loc file for Mexico being larger than the entire loc file of KR's Germany for example), and people burning out and retiring because of overscoping of being blackpilled because they never managed to do what they wanted. Italy dev stagnated before Mango and Kat showed their heads in. Mango managed to become the dictator of TNO because he made Hart in 6 months, which at the time was bigger than what anyone else could do: actually pull out contentPeople have commented how Jane hates Guangdong and would like to see it gone, but with it actually releasing (and being a sucess), it guaranteed its continued existence into the future. Furthemore as per the last leaks the team is interested in doing the 70s content for the superpowers so that the narrative has a proper ending>If this was a common thing, why aren't we seeing these kinds of extreme overhauls anywhere but the mod that a bunch of people who hate HOI4 hijacked?I don't know of other mods than try to be more than a war-game like TNO does, Kaiserreich is a good war-game for example. But if you take a look at their wiki, you can notice that its devs are nerds that read a lot of shit, which is the change in dev culture I was describing
>>2516220Fuck off, Mike.
>>2516222No one believes your revisionism Kateryna, please stop trying. You're not fooling anyone.
>>2516222>Mango and Kat saved Italy devNigga you guys scrapped it all and killed it. We know that's the case because the Rises Again devs manage to salvage what you tried to bury and restored it into a playable version. If you're going to lie, why lie about something we can easily verify is false?
>>2516225Believe what you want, I like TNO because I am interested on it as a political visual novel more than a war-game, and I like seeing all the research that went into it. There are plenty of war-game mods that involve althistory in the market if that is your fix
>>2516227Yes, we know you are. We just wish you'd fucked off to do your own thing instead of destroying what better people made. But since we have reduxes now and a proper successor mod you'll always live in the shadows of better people, hated and irrelevant as you remove everything that made the mod you hijacked popular in the first place.
>>2516226I haven't checked RA to see the old content. It is fun?I know that red Italy died because it was overscoped as shit, and that the people working on dem Italy decided to reworked it because they didn't like how it was just OTLism (which is funny given the complains of wiki-scrapping from here), but I don't know what went wrong with fascist Italy
The mod was at it's best under Pacifica anyways. The perfect balance between Panzer and realism.
>>2516237I respect people who liked her, I don't like how she made OCs out of people, but I agree with the principle that Russia should be the "arcade" zone of TNO. I can't say Ordosocialism or Ultravisionarysm wasn't funny
>>2516233It's a decent time capsule. Definitely worth trying out if you want to know what the mod was like close on release. ymmv though depending on what types of content you like. For obvious reasons it doesn't have the TT economy to mention one thing some people dislike.
>>2516237TNO truly died when Pacifica left. Not only because that meant that the mod lost much of its creative voice but with Pacifica gone the realism clique were able to pull off their coup.
>>2516241Weren't you the ones who lynched her out for "being a groomer" lmao. I still remember General's Mountain video in which he said she overdosed in estrogen
>>2516243No, those guys largely started out at KF but have long since gone and died. Seeing as RA is maintained by people from that forum I'd say we're well past that point for most of the community.
>>2516247Fair and all
>>2516232TNO has always been like this your just too brain dead to realize this. Literally the major criticism when it was released was that it was a visual novel. Its just let retarded and more coherent about things now. Your people lost. Requiem releases the most mid updates ever and has like 2 people on its gfx team. RA is a one man autism train that peddles to the lowest common denominator of human being. Continue to whine about your precious mod being stolen nobody cares goy
>>2516288lmao he's seething. Stay mad, Kateryna.
>>2516288You'll be told every day of your life until you rope that Pacifica's shitposts eclipse everything you're throwing away years of your life over. Suffer, Kateryna.
I like Kateryna’s flowcharts
Bait. Not even the team does.
>>2516357No I’m serious I really do. They’re not as good as the LATAM charts because there aren’t enough extremist paths, but I’ve said this before, they have a lot of effort put into them.
>>2516233i've still never seen anyone provide a source on red italy dying, just speculation being repeated as if it was confirmed
>>2516220Based, Hail Mango, Hail the DNC.
>>2516354Kat has a few goodies. I wanna see his Nu-Ostland flowchart sense Estonia Latvia and Lithuania are the only ones that havent leaked. I liked the new Ukraine Belarus & Moscowien one. If I remember correctly though I thought there was a Moscowien path that allowed Germany to use it for eugenics or something, or at least one of the eastern occupied lands had some sort of path to do that on an old flowchart and I cannot find it. Does anyone else know what I'm talking about?
>>2516409I wonder what Flag the Ukrainian and Belarusian Reichsprotectorates will use? Baltics use there national flags but will Germany allow Belarus and Ukraine to use them if they are a symbol used by Insurgents and Rebels, I doubt it, also Moscowiens flags for Kaminski and Oktan aren't just the Russian tricolor but I'm sure it wont just be the Flags with Swastikas on them like with current Speer, I think those are getting removed in Yippe! or maybe later in V&J I don't know.
>>2516393I mean, it was leaked, and they actually planned to have the 10 red Italy paths and the funny Maoist failstate (I think that proposal was leaked?), the failstate of Red Italy was meant to be a P2 coupObviously that was overscoped as hell and it failed to be born, so it was aborted. I think new red Italy was leaked here?Personally I would be against dem and red Italy so that people could focus on fascist Italy and have Rome thus more involved with third-world fascism, but well
Does anyone have a list of all the nations being worked on that haven’t been leaked yet? The only ones I can think of are Brazil, Australia, the Philippines and Papua
>>2516410Tfo try’s to maintain some parity with tno so check out their hate in the 80s dev diary on Reddit, I remember it having a teaser for the east with new flags.
>>2516288Right about the submods btw. TNO The East is Red (the chinese submod not the EN TL) has more current subs than TNO:RA. It's really only popular on a very small slice of the community. TNO Requiem got tricked by Russians and shitted out a bad update with TAS and haven't put out anything notable and fully complete since Novosibirsk years ago. Omsk is still unfinished and the South Africa stuff is about 3 years of content barely. It sill hasn't cracked 1/6th of the subs main TNO has. I hope the Komi stuff in their new update is good but I don't have faith in them accomplishing a quarter of the 19 or so updates they promised last year.
>>2516459Actually let me run the numbers on the updates they announced last year in July.Omsk: After Redemption - not releasedSouth Africa - Released!Onega Focus/ Nordic skele - not released (technically announced back in 2024)Mi Narod (Petlin content) - not releasedSongs of Siberia integration - HiatusATAS integration (Tuvan submod) - not releasedItaly Update (skele only first) - not releasedCollab China Update - not releasedTsar and Soviets integration - Released! (acknowledged as buggy and rushed)More Perfect Union (USA Dems update) Not releasedSuriname - not released(special mentions to the forgotten updates for Tuhkachevsky, Batov and Werbell from the 2023 roadmap back when the mod was still 2WRW.)The next update with no release date currently is Poyekhali, an update not in the above initial update list.
>>2516465Complaining about the smaller redux not finishing everything after a year is a bit like throwing rocks inside a glass house especially since they spent the first half year of their existence dealing with their own realism clique trying to burn the mod to the ground over the Antarctica map. A better sign of the times is that TNO's gone from being a main influencer in the HOI4 modding scene to taking potshots at its fan forks to score a W like a once great empire bickering with separatists in the hinterlands. Because obviously the dream of being the next KR is completely dead by now.
>My legacy YouTube channel with hundreds of thousands of subs that struggles to crack a thousand views on new videos
>>2516182Yes panzerite TNO was largely pro-liberal and somewhat preachy (Burgundy being prime example) but it was fucking FUN to play. Their pozzed worldviews weren't shoved down your throat, there were things to do outside of decisions tab, and there was a big variety of stories from different perspectives and political leanings. It is absolutely incomparable to the current ultralib circlejerk simulator where you are supposed to just sit and click decisions for 20 years and the only thing that changes is the leader portrait
>>2516227>all the research that went into itThis baiting is just too obvious
>>2516465They cancelled More Perfect Union and Songs of Siberia, as well as pretty much everything from before they were Requiem so they are no longer promising that any of those are coming. Now look at TNO's country selection menu, and see just how much countries are promised to get content someday long after their development totally collapsed. (never happening)They also voted out the guy in charge and admitted their mistakes publicly. That shows a willingness to change and improve as opposed to TNO which is dead set to head down this ridiculously overblown path by a clique that hijacked the mod.Please tell me when Mango and QPQ and Lamounier are getting voted out and peacefully hand over leadership. Hell, call me when any of them admit any fucking mistake they make ever.
Is there any list of old panzer-era lore/docs or was all that shit on discord?
>>2516857With Requiem things are just way less severe too. Some things didn't work out, some devs got sick of the drama and left, and some of their experiences were just bad like the Berezniki addon. I'm willing to cut them some me slack since it's a new mod finding it's place just like I think most of us cut TNO some slack when we were waiting for TT and Guangdong. A lot of people are giving TFR the benefit of A doubt with 1.1 for the same reason. And when their lead was voted out, he admitted fault, wished his successor luck, and importantly remains on to finish his own projects instead of it being some insane crash out.Even if I disagree with the direction of modern TNO I'd have way fewer gripes with them if they acted similarly. Be honest with your community, take responsibility for these many years wasted on reworks that are still in dev hell, be better at working with your community and be more transparent. Even if they did the exact same things in terms of gameplay (or lack thereof) just being less unpleasant would go a long way. But instead we get schemes, gay ops, the eternal Mango dictatorship, and everyone that disagrees gets banned or chased away.>>2516857There are. Most of them are really barebones though. I know the RA dev has several.
>>2516481Hey look I can draw lines on an old roadmap too!It's not a new submod tho the Novosibirsk update released in 2021! It's almost 6 years old! That's some of the best content in TNO and nothing has come close to matching it in 5 years (South Africa is good but it's literally 3 years, The Ukraine update has more content) I think if the only defense you have is TNO whataboutism that's not good!
>>25168802WRW fucking died, 90 percent of the developers left or abandoned it. Requiem may be built on that foundation, but it is not 2WRW any more nor does it promise anything of the sorts.Meanwhile, TNO still puts shit like Greece and Argentina content on it's main menu and also wastes fucking time on ANTARCTICA content.
>>2516884You act as if Requiem didn’t just do the same exact thing last year you fucking retard
>>2516885and then they cancelled a bunch of that shit after admitting they made a mistake by announcing too much and going too big.
>>2516888But they fell into the exact same trap that TNO did. They have not shown at any step of the way that they are different from TNO’s trajectory. They release the mod, make a big roadmap, and then can’t get out even basic updates without unfinished, buggy content. Meanwhile all the leaked documents posted here show they’re trending towards realism in the same way that TNO was. I also don’t think they canceled the US update, they just spun it off into a submod. This is why all you Requiem glazers are so fucking retarded, you do the same thing as TNO shills and act like you’re superior because the mod you support has a different name.
>>2516884You realize that's WORSE tho right? I was trying to be charitable and count Novosibirsk as smth released by Requiem since you can argue their is some lineage between the two. What you are saying is that Requiem has only released unfinished Omsk content and integrated 2 submods, one very poorly and one well.
>The TNO dev is seething about the reduxes againEven if everything you said was true picking fights with two fan forks like R and RA isn't exactly a W because you're still getting stomped by all the bigger mods and lost any hope of catching up with them. If anything you should be happy that they exist because that means that the parts of your communities that whine about Atlantropa 24/7 have a place to go and leave you guys alone to make all the Antarctica content you want.
RA has some interesting content lined up.
>>2516901I'm not a TNO dev I'm just pissed i put a bunch of time into a TaS run and all the achievements and the endgame content was broken. And then I did the other path after 2 hotfixes and the achievements and endgame content was still just as broken.>>2516902Mike stop posting fake leaks for the RA dev. Are they worried about how much money they'll have to spend on Gemini to generate content after they run out of abandoned TNO builds to port over?
>>2516892No one here glazes either redux. Both of them have problems, were built on Panzer's flawed foundations and we can admit it when like when Requiem posted TAS in an unfinished state or whenever RA posts cringe. We just don't hate them the same way we hate you and your mod because they don't go out of their way to actively antagonize their community. If you just released content people actually wanted once in a blue moon and weren't so hostile a lot more people would give you the same courtesy like they did back in your golden era.>>2516902Case in point: RA posting cringe.
>>2516908No one? They posted the worst flowchart ever made and half you ziggers were defending it. How does TNO antagonize their community? This is just pure mental retardation.
>>2516906Then why seethe so hard when the team itself agrees with you and the lead took accountability for it in his last announcement? At least they're listening to you and are trying to improve in the future. If the TNO devs themsevles did that whenever they fail that'd go a long way. Like remember when Antarctica released as a bandaid on the wound that was Germany being delayed even more? Having one of the Germany devs come out and explain the status of the rework would've looked a lot better than the Antarctica devs having to eat shit with a spoon in front of the angry fans.
>>2516912This is Mike pathetically trying to Astroturf a dumb gayop again because no one cared last time btw.
>>2516916It took four months and the path is still broken! When TNO released smth as buggy as this with Ugly American I didn't play the mod for like 2 years.
>>2516912I'd consider replacing all of Africa's content with a bunch of OTL skeletons no one asked for even on your team and then telling everyone to eat shit was pretty antagonistic just to mention one incident.
>>2516922don't interact with Mike posts
>>2516918Imagine this guy and ErrorLog being your strongest shills.
>>2516908Fair enough
>>2516922I asked for it. Since the first release Africa was effectively dead.>but muh near generic focus trees for big black blobNo one cares. Good skeleton > shitty focuses.
>>2516922Otl Africa is when you don't have shitty RKs. Just say you don't know anything about African history goyim. Like yes we know the submod that let you kill all the blacked people that's what you guys liked about Africa content. But even then when the rks collapsed it was all otl leaders.
>>2516928Fuck off, Mike.>>2516936Fuck off, Mike.
>>2516952Fuck off, Mike.
>>2516953Mike, fuck off.
>>2516928>Good skeleton are better than shitty focuses.SKELETON CONTENTFUCKING SKELETONMango/Kateryna shills in action ladies and gentlemen
>>2516965Almost like these kinds of people don't actually play the game, huh?
>>2516637>There were things to do outside of decisions tab, and there was a big variety of stories from different perspectives and political leanings.What examples do you have of this? Like, how is this different right now? If you are going to argue about the "diverse" narrative being Russia, that is still the same. If you meant the NPP, I don't see how Yippie is less diverse that it. There are less colours (ideologies), but there are more presidents and each narrative is more personalized to reprent the aure of each POTUS>Their pozzed worldviews weren't shoved down your throatI really don't see the difference, Mango is being an absolute retarded with his fascist take, I am not going to argue against that because it isn't possible, but Harrington's content for example is just Bernie Bro coping
>>2516857Haven't the devs apologized for all the overpromises of 2021? At least when I was back on the team I was told they didStill, I would like to hear the official line on the fucking Pony drama because hearing that is just wild.
>>2516182>>2516184Redditors like these have always existed. There are multiple posts on the TFR reddit whining about how Russia shouldn't win European war and how Atomwaffen shouldn't exist as a tag.The main thing is that you don't give these "people" what they want while releasing new content for your actual fans.
>>2517014>40 deeply personal stories about unique US presidents >Looks inside >19 stories of neoliberals caving to evil Republicans, 19 stories about Drumpfler being worse than Hitler AND Bormann, one story about how Kamala saves America and one actually funny story about Nixon becoming King of America Wow awesome.
>>2516637>Their pozzed worldviews weren't shoved down your throatThey were shoved down players throath but it was fun.
>>2517102Nah you could play plenty of content that wasn't about that. A big reason why a lot of Russian warlords are liked is for this reason. There's a reason why shit that reads more like the politicized US content like Sablin is shit nobody cares about these days while the others have carried the mod's legacy for years. Even when you could tell that there was an angle involved the fact that it was placed in a nearly post-apocalyptic alt-history landscape struggling to put itself together softened the blow of it all. Even if the US content is the worst offender having to juggle the NPP factions and dealing with the few remaining consequences of America losing the war made it more bearable. Having everything increasingly take place in a world that's very close to our own and where anything interesting has been gradually sandpapered away just makes all these political takes more overbearing. If we take to a recent example it's like how even chuds could put up with the gay shit in games like the first Mass Effect and Dragon Age because that was more cleverly baked into the setting compared to Veilguard where the dialogue is often just a series of contemporary Reddit posts about the trials and tribulations of being nonbinary shoved into a fantasy setting and in the case of both the best you can hope for is unintentional comedy like the Haiti seethe nukes.
>>2516936>Otl Africa is when you don't have shitty RKsYes exactly. There is no plausible justification for Africa to not be split into RKs in a Nazi Germany won scenario, it's purely your retarded OTLism that makes no sense within the universeAnd their content (I distinctly remember that dude who put surveillance everywhere) is infinitely better than anything you've done so far with Africa (=literally nothing) or will do (=almost certainly nothing too)
>>2517136To respond to the inevitable strawman that a lot of the RK content was undercooked and could use some improvements especially the demo legacy stuff: Yeah, we know, and sprucing up the mechanics and focus trees would've taken a lot less effort than deleting everything and starting over from scratch.By the way the guy's earlier comment about the RK collapse leading to more OTLism was comical. No one complained about there being OTLism there because you had to destroy the RKs before that could happen and it was only if devastation was at a minimum. If Huttig implemented TND then the post-RK collapse would be full of nobody warlords and the OTL types were more in the vein of funny ultranationalists and historical killpeopleists.
>>2517136There is no plausible justification for Africa to be split into RKs. This idea is retarded and only made to slander Germany. You lost, tranny.
>>2517155Lmao he instantly went from denying otlism to saying that otlism is the only option because of realism, what a fag. Also did you forget? RA and Requiem exist so people will just play those instead of your mod as you gradually remove any reason to play it. Or more likely TFR or KX but that's another matter altogether.
>>2517159God I wish there was a way to track not subscribers but actual players, like for example whenever you launch a game it sends a little ping to steam with a list of enabled mods (it's virtually guaranteed that dowser already sends this data to pdx, might as well send it to steam too), with steam then building an active playercount chart just like with games. The humiliation of nudevs would be complete then
>>2517159Retarded nigger, i wasnt saying none of these. I just stated that your retarded nigger argument is retarded, thats all. If you want to play submods - youre welcome, but quit your constant whining.
>>2517172Cope and sneed.
>>2517172Nigga you don't even know what a submod is lmao. A standalone fork isn't a submod.
>>2517179Nigga, i cant even remember a single thing i care less about than this disctinction.
>>2517203It just paints you out as silly when you try to act all high and mighty but don't even know some of the most basic terms in modding and clearly have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
Ah I see the thread hasn’t changed much No leaks, a flame war, and schizos calling each other nudevs you just love to see it
>>2517262We had major leaks at the start of the thread in retaliation to Kateryna fabricating lolicon allegations against the Russia lead and killing the entire Russia dev team. They went on lockdown after that though and the leaks stopped after that.
Hey 4chan! It's me, "Ramiel", a recently former 'developer' who contributed absolute zero and has gotten into all this trouble for their "client". Higher-ups probably know who this client is, fyi they're still hospitalized. A hint for all of you bystanders is that he was recently a big shot within the team and got sniped.Anyways, back to the point. I have assumed my client has wished for total separation of his being from the modding sector, that's right, I didn't confirm this with him because it's not worth arguing over. So to block his chances of him ever restarting his modding career, I have decided to share some crucial information. Do with it as you will.About my client, I guess you've figured out who it is. He is not dead yet as I post this. Source is me.https://mega.nz/file/6SZzDSwJ#GzfWJRczIU_F0RUYRo4JA2TQjfdFQaNZFqzhDDsp7lY(November Git)-xoxo, "Ramiel"
>>2517268Well, it seems my post was right on time. Could one of you go ahead and share this file on Reddit? Much thanks.
>>2517268Oh shit nice, most recent git. Can’t wait to download it after work got some flowcharts to leak too?
>>2517268Based, thank you for your service
>>2517275motherfucker sees a leaked build and immediately asks for flowcharts
>>2517281He’s a hero
>>2517268Was it worth it, Kateryna?
What the heck actually happened? Who is this dev in the hospital?
>>2517289Probably referring to Frosty. Ramiel is a character from the game he liked.
>>2517289it’s frosty. also frosty was the one who leaked the git an internal source told me that he tried to get back on the team, got sussed out immediately for using a very similar anime pfp and writing style, then leaked the git after getting banned i’m not sure if this is mega retarded or mega based. Leaning based purely for the git leak
>>2517291If he made it obvious he probably intended for it. Blatant revenge act.
>>2517291Assuming this is true then considering he was talking about him "still being in the hospital" and his bio (picrel) I think he might have pretended to try and kill himself over some gay modding drama?
Do we think the link has malware
>>2517302Until some retard tries to run this shit and shows some screenshots, yes
>>2517302>>2517303Mike said he's downloading it. Let him take this bullet for the team.
Mike I wish you good luck
>>2517308lmao
BROTHERS
>>2517268So to recap in one month Kateryna has:>Faked screenshots framing another lead as a lolicon>Banned said lead over the forgeries he himself made>Caused the Russia dev team to collapse for no reason what so ever>Likely destroyed any chance that Amur's released with Yippie>Caused the central localization sheet to leak>Caused several other core documents to leak revealing that most dev copes were fake>Forced the devcord to enter a full lockdown>Likely also caused a purge because of all the retaliatory leaks from people still on the team>Caused the entire Git to leak againAll of this over absolutely fucking nothing and all other devs are just fine with this. Suffer, nudevs.
>>2517311What?
Very transphobic of /vst/ to always blame KaterynaNever blame Mango, the white protestant, for moderation decisions
Leaks are cool but I just wish it was KR or TFR upcoming updates that got leaked and not some dead-on-arrival shit nobody even bothered downloading
>>2517320>why do you blame the moderation lead that's a chronic drama stirrer over moderation decisions?
>>2517323Kicking out a team lead is a "lead developer of the mod" decision
>>2517327>>2505829Reminder that Frosty was banned over screenshots that were fabricated by the moderation lead.
>>2517268>It's all placeholders still
>>2517331Do we know what the deal is with the branches? Like is there a main branch, Us only branch, Yippie LATAM branch, Yippie Germany branch, etc.
>>2517331screenshots?
>>2517336It's trueThere's a lot of themIt's bleak
>>2517338What exactly are placeholders? Is it mostly GFX?
>>2517339GFX, loc, a lot of natspirtis and foci don't have effectsAmur is the still the most finished part of the update
>>2517345Which countries/paths are the biggest offenders?
And do you think it’s safe to look into because I’m probably going to check it out
for all the folks, it isnt malware, and we're now aware that we can guess both schlaffy and conally can go fascist populist! something happens!Plus some other goodies from the leak!- someone with a friend who's able to load a build
>>2517350Fascist Schlafly and Connally still haven't been implemented, although Republican Connally has been implemented with the New Conservative or Consensus Conservative ideology (can't remember which one)
New Ciano portrait in the git. PW coming soon? Ha
>>2517350>Kateryna the transbean puts links to explicit yuri in his reworks of the RKsI guess trying to file a lolsuit against that fan Wiki isn't the stupidest thing he's done.
>>2517346The biggest offender would obv be USA considering it's the most important portion of the update
>>2517350>gacha slop yuri as placeholdersBruh>borders are the same as in their latest regorgs teaserYeah, this shit is legit
THEY MADE ALMOST NO PROGRESS SINCE THE SUMMER
Dude they cucked Italy’s border with France
Entirely new skeletons for Southeast Asia and OFN pacific territories. Singapore exists now too
Get to feast our eyes on new Argentina skeleton too
Anybody know how to fucking load this thing every time I try to its just vanilla.
>>2517367Had the same problem. When I moved the other leaked git out of my mod folder it worked. Something to do with duplicates of the same remote file id
>They're fucking up Russia with a bunch of skeletons they tried to cobble together from documents left behind by ex-devs
>>2517371will try that thanks
>>2517364What else in SEA?
>>2517362I get what they are doing but fuck is it ugly
I'm going to make a wild guess over what'll happen next. Absolutely nothing, Kateryna won't face any consequences for causing this month long mess, they'll just purge some random devs and then pretend all is well and demand more crunching. All leads are fine with this and don't care.
>no one aside from >>2517350 has posted ANY screenshots of the changes they made
>>2517395I don't think anyone will be purged because no one cares (except this thread).
>>2517400Yes, Kateryna. No one cares about your Git leaking. You're totally not going to be made fun of for putting yuri in your reworks.
>>2517318TNO is officially holy
>>2517361Kek, seriously?
>>2517350Kat is a problem for the mod. Created pointless drama and caused the git to leak. Mango needs to bite the bullet and just kick him off the team atp.
Build looks pretty cool. Not super up to date, must be the general branch. The non Argentinian LATAM stuff isn’t in the game (which may or may not be in Yippie) but the 1972 candidates are generally missing the stuff shown off in the most recent teaser.
>>2517431Fuck off with your damage control Kat.
>>2517430He won't and if he did he'd have to deal with Lamounier and Kate scheming against him and he doesn't want to deal with that this close to the finish line.
>>2517405>me and my 4chan and kiwifarms bros are going to bully you for yuriKateryna's reign of terror ends soon
>>2517433I went backwards. I thought the 1972 guys had less content, but neither the 1964 or 1968 guys have GFX/Loc/Effects for most of their trees either
This "lead developer" position mango has seems useless considering kateryna runs the mod and everything in it apparently
I still think the branch is not the “most recent” one, but they are going to need to pull it together in terms of US content
>>2517436Nigga you'll be ridiculed in every HOI4 community for shoving softcore porn into your reworks you dumb fuck. It's especially hypocritical given that it's more graphic than the fakes you banned Frosty over.
>>2517430Wait kACKeryna is a problem? I had no idea you’re telling me this now for the first time..
>>2517440No, she's the lead moderator and all of this is over a beef between her and the former Russia lead. Mango still runs Yippie and the US side of the mod and makes most of the calls. But he isn't as prone to public debacles so he doesn't get talked about as much.
>>2517442The HOI4 community?The one that has been making fun of TNO since at least 2023?
Mike come save us and post ss of the new git
>>2517449Well, yes.
>>2517450What do you want
>>2517439>neither the 1964 or 1968 guys have GFX/Loc/Effects for most of their trees either>1 month until the deadline
>>2517454I looked a little more and it’s not so bad but besides Mike and I I doubt anyone cares
They also seem to be adding in vanilla special projects in the files
>>2517457Motherfucker your entire userbase cares about the update being fucked and you missing your release date are you insane?
>>2517471Well like most of RFK’s and Wallace’s GFX are there, and the 1964-1968 mechanics are good.
>>2517476Problem is the insanity in promising dozens of presidents and content into 1976 and in the end only managing to create content on par with the Germany demo.
>>2517478Yeah I really have no idea what the heck they’re doing. The discord leaks and the teasers make me believe (hope) they’re going to make it in time for Christmas. Germany and Amur are basically done (and look pretty cool), DV is seemingly finished and looks meh, nothing so far about PAC SAF, US looks like a handful and is completely unfinished. All the US mechanics are super small (like Chisolm’s checks) and impossible for me to read.
>>2517483Mike overdosing on copium.
>>2517485I’m a true believer
This shitheel being Mango's strongest soldier is fucking embarrassing.
>>2517442It'll literally just be you posting about it and trying to make it stick like you do every time, the most transparent concern trolling of all time that no one outside this thread cares about.
Alright downloaded the git. Having some loading trouble but shits legit Once I figure it out I’ll post screencaps
>>2517498Keep telling yourself that Kateryna. Reminder that everyone on the team hates you. :)
>>2517500alright i’m having an issue with crashing. it refuses to load past a certain point and it’s getting to me it’s in my mod folder for paradox interactive. I’ve also deleted the old tno version so idk what’s causing the crashing
>>2517505I just got it working. What i did was use the descriptor file not the TNO_dev one and just replace the id with a path to the mod file. I think I;ll go RFK and post screenshots if u want to go Wallace?
>>2517507NVM dont do what i did that shit crashed when i tried to load in as the US loll. What I could see is the Phillipines has 3 rebellion tags now and Amur is coming with several different achievments.
>>2517507That tooltip reads like a cry for help.
>Mike is coping hard about DV being a white supremacist power fantasy on KF again
>>2517511It’s just what I read in the locs. You can check them yourself >>2517508I’m honestly not sure if getting this thing up and running is worth it. Ima make some dinner and come back later
>>2517513Fuck off, Mike.
>>2517516Here's one.
>>2517518If you post it twenty more times it'll come true
>>2517523How does it feel to be stuck monitoring this thread and seething at anons because you caused the Git to leak again, Kate?
Alright how tf do you get this git functioning?
>>2517530Changed the renderer and it worked
Mike, don't blow it now. This is your one chance to prove your worth to Mango by shilling Yippie harder than ever.
TNOsissies, what do we do now?
The cope continues. I looked through all the leaked documents related to localization and GFX prompts. Almost every single filled prompt, GFX or localization, is not in the game, even though some of them have been completed for 6+ months. I have convinced myself that the update is still coming this year
>>2517523Kate can u add these also while ur at it can you fix your unoptimized piece of shit USA gui lmao
>>2517570He's too busy making flowcharts that'll never be implemented because no one wants to work with him.
>>2517563How many is "some", How have you convinced yourself it's still on track to be released by the end of the year?
>>2517585If you look back at the prompts (which I skimmed) there is loc for a lot of the democratic presidents, including a doc full of focus descriptions (some of which are in game, some of which are not). Some of these prompts even say that they haven’t been implemented yet. There’s also a doc for GFX requests, which include a ton for Humphrey. None of these are in game yet. I’m not worried about the progress of loc or GFX, because these are developed independently of the rest of the mod. GFX might not be finished, but that’s up to the GFX team. The only thing that concerns me is if the proxies, mechanics, and skeletons aren’t finished, but since the branch that got leaked was the master branch I have a feeling there is another, more up to date branch out there that doesn’t have Germany, Amur, DV.
>>2517600Interestingly, the GFX doc has Goring focuses that haven’t been leaked yet.
>>2517600I'm playing the build right now as Germany and a lot of the focuses and events are just blank with no descriptions. I don't know if they just haven't been put in the game yet if they are hiding in the files somewhere, I haven't test America yet and might after I see how far I can get as Germany. I'd really like this update to be out by the end his year. I like a lot of the stuff and its a shame it isn't as polished as I was hoping, still, looks better than it did this summer which is definitely something.
>>2517601really? Wasn't the last doc leak for Goring showing that they were in the early stages of concept? Why would they have GFX?
>>2517601I'd be interested in seeing what that looks like, I wonder how they will do Goring once he gets his full path, I'm hoping for a european continental conquest and also conquest of all of Russia to Siberia.
>>2517604I imagine it’s for the Kampfzeit, but his KZ tree had no GFX. Plus he’s probably getting a starter tree like Himmler
>>2517603Fortunately, many of the kampfzeit trees are coded effects wise so it’s really a matter of writing and photoshop past this point Shit does need a lot of polish tho, agreed. The west african crisis just didn’t work for me and timing for events was way off. rebellions starting way to early or way to late Also debug commands are still outdated to a degree. It was nice to see nazi argentina but I wish there was more I could do with it as germany oh well, they’ve got a month or so to patch things up for release
>>2517610Yeah I think he had five focuses in his KZ tree in the build, and there are 5 requests. The GFX has a ton of info on what they’re developing. Turkey was being developed in late 2024 early 2025, Manchuria has been sporadically developed, Singapore has like 20+ national spirits, etc.
>>2517603]>>2517612If the GFX is finished and the focuses images are made and focuses are written then would they just need to test if proxies, mechanics, and skeleton is fully working before release? If so I could see it coming out late december.
>>2517612West African crisis also didn't work for me.
Calm music plays when hitler dies and theres a popup telling you to switch to 2 or 3 speed now
Thoughts on this?
-The Situation tab for Germany is working now-Poland's teased minigame seems to work, with Poland being able to take cities now-Moskowien and the former Ostlands nations don't collapse during the second Kampfzeit. It might be a coding issue, because the situation tab mentions a plot to overthrow the leader of Moskowien. -Not a lot of work seems to be done for the USA, with many trees like JFK being practically in the same state as the last leak. While others have gotten some work done. -Gus Hall's minigame is a TV.-South Africa can have nukes? Supervent files show a corrupted image labeled SA_nuclear_exchange. Not sure if this is new
>>2517628That could be South American nuclear exchange since that’s a super event currently in the game
>>2517628Ostland didn't collapse for me but Moscowien did and Oktan took over.
Whoa, did anyone look at Asia? I think they are trying to rework it too
NEW IN ASIA-Indonesia skeleton tree-New Philippines starting situation-Singapore-Sarawak-brunei-New skeleton for the Malaya Emergency war.-Netherlands owns part of New Guinea -2 new territories that Japan owns. Melanesia territory (islands east of new guiene) and Sabah authority (north of the main island of Indonesia)
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>>2517633>>2517637The total list of new/reworked countries isPhilippinesBismaya Revolt (Philippines)10th Army Something Something (Philippines)Free MalayaRepublicans of MalayaSingaporeIndonesiaBruneiSarawakSabahMelanesia - has some relationship with Tanganyika of all placesNetherlands New GuineaUS administration east of FijiUS Administration of the Cook Islands
Ostland is also an on map tag in a little sliver of land (I guess meant to represent the building where the RMfdbO is) across the river from Riga. Idk what else has changed in Russia but Bodaybo has been added.
And I think this is the last of the new stuff. Rockefeller can get “couped” by Connally and RFK can go Doughface/Yaller
>>2517645lmao the fucking seething at the old Redux lead.
>>2517628anon howd u get this working i crashed when i tried to load in after the country selection screen
>>2517275I'll satisfy this greedy request this one time. Post these to Reddit and I'll think of posting more.https://mega.nz/folder/KOYG2aCR#TMjSLeYVx_IXVb686BLvUg
>>2517663Im not opening it. Mike, do it NOW.
>>2517663Do you know why Malaya can’t unify with Indonesia?
>>2517672>https://mega.nz/folder/KOYG2aCR#TMjSLeYVx_IXVb686BLvUgyour not going to get malware. It's images and pdfs only
Some intresting things-A new Cuba proxy-The Malaya emergency will always end with a Japanese victory-New Canada skeleton-DOC for GFX request -DOC for TESTING request
What's being tested-Full RFK and Schalfy-Amur-Russia as a wholeOnly two reports completedTesting began about 2-3 weeks ago
>>2517674I know that there is a Konfrontasia proxy between Indonesia and Malaya which Indonesia can win but I don't know about unification
This is a complaite of the testers had for the USA "My only real “complaint” is it feels like America can’t do enough in the cold war. Not being able to send volunteers to Columbia or India sucks ( Couldn’t do anything to support India. Had an agent die right before.) It feels too reliant on the FBI which is fine, but lack of control sucks especially sense other nations (Japan/Iberia) are more able to impact Central America then us. It also feels like you aren’t really fighting Germany or trying to reduce their sphere anymore or that they try to do anything in the Americas. Japan feels much more like the enemy."Your going to sit in the chair and love it
>>2517663NuCanada looks pretty cool desu
>>2517600I was wrong here, I got the date order mixed up. Most of the Humphrey stuff I mentioned was completed on October 4th, not in April. The doc doesn’t have the full list of GFX requests (at least I don’t think so based on prior updates) but I am surprised at how little they have outside of RFK/Wallace/Humphrey.
>>2517686What does Konfrontasia mean? And is the Indonesian civil war still a thing?>>2517688Why can’t the US send volunteers to Colombia or India anymore?
>>2517688Also doesn’t Argentina factor into the Germany sphere stuff
>>2517704https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konfrontasi
Touch grass, y'all.
>>2517663>>2517663>>2517675Catbox them so that they can be put in the OP.
>>2517688So... It's just TCT?
>The first thing Kate does after waking up is to go to this thread and seethe about new leaks they caused Was it worth it, Kate?
>>2517772Thank you for your service in killing TNO and thank you for all the entertainment you have given us. Keep up the good work, Kat, who are you purging next?
they Replaced the superpower tension system with super power relations also maybe the Indonesia civil war will be removed
>>2517779You're wrong about that, it was me, Yugo (Manchuria Lead), who typed that
>>2517786Gayop pro max
>>2517782If it's like the Frosty situation it'll probably be something completely stupid like trying to go after Bassist for not wanting Finland to own parts of Antarctica.
>>2517784I don't think the ICW will be removed
>>2517786>Kateryna seething about Yugo again Motherfucker really can't handle even the tiniest disagreement.
>>2517784... Why??
>>2517796Maybe kat should kick him out for not releasing Manchuria
>>2517817Don't give Kate ideas. The coder famine is already bad enough.
>>2517350Kat since you're reading this thread and since I don't want to be banned for asking this on the dev server: why the fuck did you add links to porn in the code?
>>2517836To trans the kids
bro why
>>2517838What
whoever came up with this gui needs shotits tiny, the map is shit and the 4 sliders in the bottom left take the cakethe fuck you mean theres buttons, youre supposed to micromanage your party's platform in every statealso appreciate how most state lean republican on every issue but will vote blue
does it have Nixon's 1000 year reich?
>>2517838>Slimy SOBThe seethe.>>2517849This really gives me the impression that it's something that they think will look really cool in screenshots but doesn't fucking work in practice and falls apart whenever you click on anything.
>>2517873>Slimy SOB>The seetheLBJ and RFK are "Slimy SOBs" tooIt's used for people who have an assertiveness of 9 or 10It's used for people who are stubborn and always vote on their own principles instead of any party lineEleanor Roosevelt has an 8 in assertiveness and she's labeled a "Total Prick"
>>2517876Just seems like a shitty way of wording it either way.
played through 1964nothing works, the bills in cogress all just poof, no interaction, no events, nothingthe only one with text is the impeachment of the chief justice but that just fails in the senate with no optionsall of the focus descriptions are written as nixons thoughts ("so i uh ...")nixons mechanic doesnt do anything and whoever made it mixed up the directions for econ policyprimaries, as expected, dont worknew foreign policy stuff isnt implementedso nixon wins by default because theres no way to do fucking anything that affects anything, his tree is massive (but no icons yet) with one liberal side and one conservative. nixons liberal civil rights tree finishes with a focus called "the first black president"but its not like any of his focuses do anything, almost all of them in both trees just change values on his mechanicall in all even if it worked it would probably suck to play, shit seems boring. i refuse to believe this is the current build
There's an Uma cunny in the files for anyone curious
>>2517887>Kateryna is a fucking retard that hid more porn in the game filesDoubly hilarious karma if true given the hoax that started all of this.
>>2517885>That’s the least bad thing about the GUI
>>2517885The fact that progress has been made since the one that leaked back in the summer means that it's at least from after Q3. The other option would be that two people rage-leaked incomplete builds that both were from last year despite clearly having access to the team since they also leaked current documents in each instance. That's basically impossible so it's far more likely that yes, this is a recent build.
>>2517899I’m not a programmer, is there a cleaner way to do that?
>>2517663You know what? fuck it why not. Going to have to set up an alt and post it to npp funny should be up by this afternooni’ll post the gits along with the photos and docs
>>2517904In layman's terms, this is Yandere Dev levels of coding.>>2517907Repost the collage with the head janny's porn there while you're at it.
can you tell me where the porn is hidden i cba searching through everything
>>2517910It’s not like reddit would really give a shit about yuri because it isn’t as degen as loli but ill make sure to do so ill just be posting to npp funny, then have lavader post it to twitter to get it some more traction
>>2517914It's more that it's just funny especially with the added context that it's their head moderator doing shit that he'd ban people for (justifiably desu).
MIKE YOU HAVE MY PERMISSION TO POST ALL SCREENSHOTS TO THE KF THREAD
>>2517915I just posted the leaks on reddit unfortunately forgot to post the yuri fan art that kat was whacking it too https://www.reddit.com/r/NPPfunny/s/shrFLe9fwz
>>2517918Deserves a mention to be honest.
>>2517918Removed by Reddit filters
>>2517918fuck it got filtered. Don’t really wanna cook up another alt how long do I have to wait for it to get posted?
>>2517918Well you've got a second chance anyway
>>2517923So how do I bypass the filter?
>>2517925No catbox links I guess
>>2517927I used the mega links Aaand when I made a new post it got filtered yet again
>>2517929Post them as images
>>2517929Keep trying anon. Paul Revere this shiet and take a bullet for this thread so les reddit users knows how terrible dev has been
And we are live ladies and guntlemen https://www.reddit.com/r/NPPfunny/s/kFbjFthqmn
>>2517932it was the links that fucked the posts, they get auto filtered by the jannie’s
>>2517935o7
>>2517935>Months old>November 2 was months agoTime traveling anon.
>>2515954>There's no contrarianism whatsoever in nuTNO criticismLol. Lmao, even.
>>2517980Your shit just sucks. No one bought a wargame to get a worse version of TCT.
>>2517901one of the reasons i said this isnt the current build is theyve shown their new polish "war" mechanic but in this leak its still the old war
>>2517983That's being generous. What's more likely is that it's smoke and mirrors like many of their other teasers and that the actual thing isn't in an active build.
>>2517901It’s the master branch, which means that a lot of the most recent progress is not yet integrated from other branches
>>2517994You are, in fact, wrong. This is specifically the correct branch where work is being done on, which makes me wonder if this is an attempt at damage control to cover up the slowness of progress.
>>2517994That makes sense. Usually things only get integrated into the master branch when it's further along.
>>2517998>>2517999 (me)I stand corrected, guess it's even worse than I thought.
TNO devs are diddy
Though, to be fair, I've seen that work related to Germany is usually done on a separate branch and slowly ported to the general branch later on.
>>2517998>attempt at damage control to cover up the slowness of progressmy proving there is in fact no progress?brave
>>2518004Nicole is cuter.>>2518006Or at least, very little.
They just added 160 prompts to Humphrey locTs aint releasing this year
I can't take this shit anymore
grok could have finished this update in a week
Is it Mangover?
>>2518032It's actually tempting to boot up Claude Code, drop the build inside, and prompt: "Fix pls. Don't make mistakes. No risks taken."It would just insert the OG trees tho, probably.
>>2518037Kateryna should coup him next.
>>2518024The loc is not the issue. The real issue is the code and the GFX
>>2517998Really? I have a couple of questions then:What branches are there currently?How much stuff is completed and waiting to be implemented?Are the Bolivia/Uruguay changes coming with the next Brazil update?
>>2518060 (me)Not a dev
>>2518060Loc is an issue. It's just less critical compared to fucking everything being broken.
>>2518061Bolivia and Uruguay are tied to the Argentina stuff so they're coming with Yippie
>>2518072I guess they’re waiting to be implemented in the main branch
Are they're any arguments/evidence supporting the Update releasing by the 31st of December?
>>2518080>Are they're any arguments/evidence supporting the Update releasing by the 31st of December?The main arguments for a December release are the DOC request showing that a lot of LOC and GFX have been done. The ones missing could, if they crunch, be released in December. The thread is also arguing if this is the master branch, it has all the actual code. Usually, when testing a specific thing, you use a backup and then implement it back into the original, so we MAY not be seeing the whole thing. It could so be cope.
>>2518080Arguments for: Kateryna said so: >>2506193Arguments against: Everything in the leaked build.
>>2518092I can but the loc part but having the code on master be so fucking broken that it borders to making the mod itself unplayable just isn't happening.
After poking around in the build I think it might be a branch for testing Amur considering their is achievements for Amur related content but no USA related achievements. Plus the leaked testing sheet made it seem like you could do a full playthrough from JFK to Schlafly. Also the fact that if this was leaked by Frosty or someone Frosty adjacent that being the build they have would make sense.
>>2518113I agree, Amur in my run was the most complete, that with the fact it was likely Frosty who leaked it makes it seem like it was for testing Amur.
>>2518113Well, for the RFK testing, the same errors still appear as in the current build. With one of the first bills you pass, 'hello 2' is still there with no description.
I looked through the tester feedback, they said the content is fun but very unfinished. There are issues with the Congo Crisis and the US mechanics, including the election mechanic not working whatsoever.
I think if they want to they can get this Update out by December 31st its just a matter of if they are willing to do the work.
>>2518125Fucking how? There's too much broken shit.
>>2518129Just crunch harder.
>>2518129If this is the attitude of the devs then of course it isn't going to release by the end of the year, If its broken, fucking fix it.
>>2518134Kateryna wants to crack the whip
>>2518137I don't know how cracking the whip would even work because half the writers aren't even clocking their weekly reports
>>2518134>>2518141>Just fix it lmao >My filthy lazy proles won't deliver on the quotas we leads so generously set!These statements may be connected in ways you don't understand.
Have there been any more britain leaks aside from the flowchart? Also i swear some Australia leaks were posted in an old thread but i can’t find anything about it at the top
>>2518160Someone said there was a new Australia chart but it’s not coming in Yippie
>>2518160The most recent we got was a rumor that they were going to cut the ECW and replace it with nothing. Britain dev is dead right now because of Frost so it doesn't matter.
When all is said and done and the update is released whether its this year or in the next, do you guys think Yippe! will be good? I understand that the Changes like removing SAW and GCW are disappointing to some but do you guys think the new American content and all the new proxy wars and just the rest of the content being added to Yippe! will be worth the wait and worth removing such memorable content?
>>2518176The half finished dev build looks better than the rest of the current content in the game combined
>>2518181Go away Kateryna.
>>2518181optimize ur game first than you can talk shit desu
My bad guys I didn’t mean to glaze it that hard. But outside of Guangdong TNO right now only has launch paths, demos, and an Iberia “facelift”. I feel like Amur reworking all of Russia’s mechanics, full American content, and a Germany demo is better than that.
>>2518198I agree, Yippe! Will be the best update TNO has had since Guangdong, new US content is good and once it drops maybe the 2nd Kampfziet will be better than the GCW. I have always liked the proxies in TNO and especially the LATAM ones and Nu-Africa looks like it will be even better. I am just really bored of the launch paths, I thought Iberia was alright especially being able to create your own sphere in LATAM as them and I'm pretty sure with the whole regional orgs thing they are adding you'll be able to do that to an even bigger extent. I'd really like to see this update come out in the next month or so before the years end, will it happen idk. Make it happen.
i think the French west Africa proxy is not working i cant send units nor take infer
>>2518004Yo if you are still here please leak the latest roundtable, thank you!
>>2518206The Iberia rework was a letdown. The execution of the monopath sucks because, unlike the Nixon monopath, the player has no agency in what they do or focus on. Plus it falls into the regular TNO pitfalls of having hardly any content in the rest of the world outside of 1967-68, especially Africa.
>>2518198>>2518206Dev cope.
>>2518039
*sigh* I'm gonna get my client to explain how the developer git works so you all can go stop making deluded guesses about it.There is a "main" branch, where the endpoint is in the latest released update. This branch is used for hotfixes.There is a "yippie" branch, where work for the update is done.There is a "kampfzeit" branch, where Germany-related stuff is implemented and then ported over to the "yippie" branch one by one.Every region except for Germany is directly implemented into the "yippie" branch. No exceptions except for Germany.
>>2518250When is the Git from and can you confirm who put the yuri on it?
>>2518250>There is a "main" branch, where the endpoint is in the latest released update. This branch is used for hotfixes.So is this leak the main, yippie, or kampfzeit one?
>>2518259November 1st, if I remember correctly.>>2518260Do you really need to know something so apparent that was even labeled in the zip file?
>>2518264>It's the fucking tranny janny that put the shit he goons to into the modBeyond parody.
>>2518243I got that QPQ reference.
Can we take a minute to appreciate Kat's ostland rework? In short the story goes as follows; Estonia was liberated from USSR and got a shitload of land and freedom but they got a heckin native nationalist in charge and now they're incredibly mad for some reason. These people can protests and the 2 outcomes are either letting the native collaborator stay in charge or have him be replaced with a non-nazi pragmatic native dictator because Germany wouldn't want to rock the boat so they let it slide. Am I missing something Kat? Can you explain why you think this would be interesting to anyone? And no, you can't cite a bunch of random historical sources and use it as argument for making dogshit boring stories because you're making entertainment and historical accuracy has no bearing on the quality of the content
>>2518273Not beating the Baltic power fantasy allegations.
>>2518276Still not a power fantasy, just boring
>>2518277At this point I don't think you can call it anything other than the power fantasy
>>2518250Surely everyone who's working on yippie has their own private forks where they do stuff before PRing it? I refuse to believe everything is just pushed to yippie master immediatelyI guess I'm coping too much
>>2518281Keep us informed, rutranny.
>>2518281Power fantasy where you get deported east just for a German family to take your house
>>2518283I'm not reexplaining all that.
>>2518273>victor of the largest war in the history of mankind and this continent's sole superpower>too scared to invade EstoniaDoesn't this go against their own religious adherence to realism? In what fucking way is this realistic
>>2518287Why would they invade Estonia?The civil servant faction of the EVK is still loyal to Germania
>>2518288Because a reichskomisariat should be governed by a German assigned and sent from Germany, regardless of whether the natives endorse it or not. Allowing any kind of autonomy is a display of weakness
>>2518286The question I asked was not answered nor explained in your post
>>2518273They're getting some shitty russian land at the expense of being deported from their homeland, its closer to what happened to poland after the war irl (except poland got good german land) and its only to use them as a meatshield against the russians. As for the leaders national socialism is an ideology for germans, they don't care for whether their subjects are doing their own native larp as 'nazis' or 'fascists' as long as they continue to submit to the will and interests of germany.
>>2518285If there were any serious germanization attempts then we would see the results of that with Ostland getting germanized and annexed by the 1972. But your leak proves otherwise with only possible routes being a native collaborator and a more moderate native collaborator and the estonian people have enough power and agency to change their government just by protesting, in Nazi Germany
Is Amur good at least? Will I get a failstate because I united Russia as le hecking evil unwholesome guys?
>>2518285>>2518294Why do you always feel the need to come here and defend your shitty reworks, Kat? You've been doing this ever since your Sweden chart leaked. And we know it's you because you're the only person that'd say shit like>Nazi Germany doesn't care and they were very tolerant of the whims and needs of [country I like]
>>2518295I can't tell if you're illiterate or what, but this isn't the full skeletonIt covers only the first few year (due to the 2KZ)
>>2518297You can but it's avoidable.>Is it goodLike a sidegrade of what used to be there with more mechanics. Not bad but not what'll save the business.
>>2518290Its a reichsprotektorat, retard. Do not google who was the head of Bohemian Reichsprotectorat.
>>2518300*years
>>2518300Post the full then.
>>2518294>They're getting some shitty russian land at the expense of being deported from their homeland, its closer to what happened to poland after the war irlExcept that's not what's happening at all and everything points otherwise. For starters they still hold all their territories and are led by the natives, if ALL of them got deported it would've have been told us somewhere. In reality what's happening is that germans migrate to ostland and they both happily mingle and do business while estonians go voluntarily settle the frontier to kill and rape as much ruzzians as they want. Will there be a significant German minority? Yes. But if I were an estonian nationalist I would see it as a good thing when compared to OTL because I already have this problem with 30% of my population being Ruzzian. Ergo, it is a power fantasy because EVERY OUTCOME will be better than what happened in OTL which reinforces my belief that my country would be better off had nazis won WW2. >and its only to use them as a meatshield against the russiansSo you've just turned Nazi Germany into modern EU. Especially now that Germany's sphere is formed by democracies and managerial states. Also did you really just bring it up as a reason why it would be bad for balts and therefore not a power fantasy, considering that majority of their power fantasies revolve around being the shield of the west? Really?
>>2518305I don't have the full one, but this only covers the portion coming in Yippie (yes they're releasing demos of skeletons now too)
>>2518307>i couldnt read text in english, so allow me to explain your views i just imagined in my headTalking to a rusnigger is like constantly exploring new frontiers of a human retardation. If anyone wondering why they should be reduced down to a last rusnigglet - thats why.
>>2518310There is no full one lol
>>2518313Seems like you're the one who gets overwhelmed when there are more than three lines in a responseIf you ever do manage to read all that, you too will realize he's (mostly) correct and Estonian rewoork is baltic power fantasy that falls apart the moment you spend more than ten seconds thinking about itThat's assuming you're just some random retard and not kate of course, if it's the latter than I applaud you for such fervent dedication to ruining your mod
>>2518310Why would they be releasing just demos of skeleton content for the Baltic countries? Belarus literally has a multipath long skeleton all the way to the 1970s and you telling me they can’t (Kat can’t) create a flowchart and put full skeleton till the 70s like she’s done with everything else?
>>2518316He’s done*
>>2518316Compatibility with the Kampfzeit I believeA lot of the Eastern RK power struggles are tied with the main power struggle in GermaniaKaukasien gets a part of its VJ skeleton tooYippie is essentially a demo of VJ
Who will be running the clownshow when mango fucks off?
>>2518321Probably like Lam, Kat or Hic
>>2518323I was hoping mango had appointed a heir, in true liberal democrat fashion you know
>>2518313Cope Kat cope.
>>2518321>>2518323>>2518324QPQ if it's Mango's clique, Kateryna if it's Lam's clique. Lamounier likes being more of a background character but he's an even bigger rewooorker than mango. People just hate him more because he's more of a public jackass.bot- would be disasters and we'll eventually feel nostalgic for the Mangoreich.
pacifica is still out there she will come back in our hour of need and save us
>>2518315Seems like you should stop trying to present yourself as a different person first. Second, the fact that your retarded rant is three lines long doesnt do you any good. You dont know english at all, you simply cant read text, thats why you imagined some bullshit in your head and kept ranting about that. And all of you retards are like that.
>>2518335As always, Kateryna refuses to post arguments and just deflects with the worst insults known to mad.
>>2518335Can you actually defend this shit without seething about Russoids for five seconds o algo
Guys can we all appreciate the supreme quality main menu art for Yippie? It's very well done, and the little nigger boy in there for that sweet lib agenda is a cherry on top. Best art peace in TNO right now I think.
>>2518355It's good, I love the fanta ad
>>2518356America...............le bad
>>2518355I preferred the non-comic art desu
>>2518356Fanta... Le Nazis... Le rule63 George Floyd... America is le bad...
>>2518356I hope the two kids stay friends and build a better america together and don't end up reproducing the oppressive dynamics of the world they're growing up in ^-^
>>2518362Vomiting rn
Hey Kat you know that everyone on the team hates you for causing all of this, right?
>>2518364ikr? American cities are such pits of inequality, racism and corruption, it's disgusting what american institutional failures have done to their people. We need a sensible yet idealistic reformer like Hart to fix America's cities and finally make them the shining city on a hill they were meant to be!
>>2518353Defend this shit against what? I personally dont like this and find it aestetically unpleasing, because it looks bad on the world map. But against arguments like>its a balt power fantasy because my rusnigger compatriots are all dead, balts still exist and if i was an estonian nationalist i would like iti can only stop to interact with the russian dog and donate another hunderd bucks to the afu.
>>2518383Why are you so insanely obsessed with Russia? This has nothing to do with that. We are making fun of this because it's silly to have Germany create Hyperbaltia.
>>2518384Slava Ukraina
>>2518388One of the cringiest gayops I've ever seen
>>2518391Go die to a chinese drone for the motherland Ivan
>>2518383>>2518388>>2518392You're mentally ill. Go back to /pol/, stay there, and stay the fuck awake from HOI4 modding if you can't stop obsessing over the politics of a country you've never even set foot in you Romanian troon.
>>2518395>RomanianReally? Holy shit imagine having the nerve to shittalk literally any country when yours is fucking ROMANIA lmaooo>t. albanian lol
>>2518397Rusniggers will cry and beg to enter Romania so they can flee being turned into Putin's meat cube btw
>>2518397Kat is a Romanian man living in Sweden so he's doubly cursed. This is also why we got wholesome democracy Romania and BNWO Sweden.
>>2518399Meanwhile outside of your schizo imagination it's the ukies that pay upwards of $18000 to flee to Romania and other bordering countries (assuming they are lucky and don't get scammed), fucking imagine how bad it must be there if even the balkans looks better in comparison>>2518401Astonishingly cursed, I wonder if he is considered pozzed enough to collect welfare there
>>2518384Because a local rusnigger (you) is sperging all over the thread and even on Reddit. Good Lord, i cant even imagine how buckbroken you must be to come on Reddit and seethe over Balts there. Its not even laughable anymore, its straight up disgusting.
>>2518411Seems like you should come up with better, more plausible lore next time instead of meme power fantasies
>>2518411Your lore is ridiculous and people make fun of you for writing retarded shit and then huffing your farts like you're a genius for it and then you crash out.
>the tranny sabotaged Russia development because some random Ivan misgendered him once
No joke his seething about Russia no doubt caused the gayop that killed Russia dev. Don't forget: he's also the guy that's reworking Ukraine, Ostland and Finland.
>>2518415Seems like you should feed youself to a ukranian drone if its the only way for you to quit whining, hivan.
>>2518430>Everyone that calls my mod bad is a Russian bot
>>2518430Why are you squatting in Sweden instead of fighting them evil ivans yourself? At least ziggers actually participate in their war effort either directly or indirectly by paying taxes, working factories, keeping the apparatus running and so. Meanwhile all the most vocal slava ukraini supporters prefer to support it from as far away as they can get
>>2518388Can't even spell that right, you fucking retard.
>>2518458It's spelled correctly. Read the thread more thoroughly and you'll get it.
>>2518438Why would i do this if can support Ukraine with money? Just like rusniggers doing it with their taxes like you said. Very weird and utterly retarded question.
>>2518478Learn to spell, Kat. Are you getting rattled over all this shit you caused for yourself?
>>2518478They don't need your money. The EU is already showering them with so much money that they somehow even manage to put significant sums to use after every corrupt official takes his cut. What they need is people. Ukraine is such a shining beacon of freedom and democracy that its happy citizens would rather drown in that river at their western border than defend their beloved nation. If you were to volunteer, that'd be one less youth kidnapped off the streets and forced into some swamped foxhole. You'd also do something useful for the first (and hopefully last) time in your worthless life. Consider it Kat. AFU accepts everyone.
Two retards fighting
Instead of pouring through the leak and attemtpting to determine how done the mod actually is at this point. The thread, in their classic fashion, decides to have a schizo feud between two retards calling each other devs because of some baltic snca o algo This is why /tno/ doesn’t deserve anything good in life
>>2518486What is there even to discuss? We were the first to get it to run and got screenshots proving that yes, it's still shit and a dev put porn in the mod's code. How many ways do you need to be told that this shit's busted and isn't releasing on schedule? They might as well make fun of the retard dev seething because people didn't like his chart.
>>2518486Both /tno/ and TNO's Plebbit do not deserve anything worthwhile. Both sides are sperging out on the mod from two completely different perspectives.Everything that has hit /tno/ was deserved. I’m not inviting you to discuss this, as there’s nothing to discuss.
>>2518487Can that yuri even be classified as porn? it’s the most soft core shit on the planet, there isn’t even any nudity.>>2518495Both are trash but at least the reddit bothers to read what the devs produce. /tno/ doesn’t even bother and instead seethes about what it looks like instead of what it actually is I kinda want yippie to release in december not because I want the devs to win, but to see /tno/ seethe about how “boring” it is because it doesn’t have flashy lights or schizo paths
>>2518486The mod is so "done" that everything worth discussing about the build was discussed within a couple hours, literally what do you even want to talk about? Berating nudevs for being lazy incompetent worthless troons is even more boring than politic shitflinging at this point
>>2518499What interesting and fascinating gameplay are we going to get in place of flashy lights and schizo paths?
>>2518499The person that uploaded it to the Git considered even tamer stuff to be hardcore lolicon shit worthy of an instant ban son I'll be just as charitable towards him.
>>2518499When it releases we'll laugh about how broken it is and move on with our lives. Maybe we'll laugh at some damage control copium from the Discord too. If it's anywhere near as broken as the November build that just leaked is then it'll just be a comedy Christmas present.
>>2518499>but to see /tno/ seethe about how “boring” it is because it doesn’t have flashy lights or schizo pathsI hope (yeah, shame on me, I know) that Yippie moralfagging will not be as tedious as this thread seething on not having paths included in super event compilations back in 2022. There's no fucking middle ground anymore until Requiem makes a US rework on their own.
>>2518483They need my money as more money = more drones to dismember ruspiglets. As you probably know, there are at least 100 millions of your kind and it takes a lot of drones to deal with them, while i can afford myself sitting comfy at home and see videos of your compatriots being blown. Everyone wins in that situation.
>>2518511Please for the love of God, go back to /pol/ you utter fucking lunatic.
And to think: before this week the most embarrassing thing Kate was known for outside of the devcord was to threaten a lawsuit against a Wiki.
>>2518513Im not going anywhere. You can go and join the other 41%, tranny.
>>2518511>at least 100 millions of your kindMakes one wonder how many ukies still remain in comparison...
>>2518511>nonstop dodging and deflectingYou're not wiggling your tranny ass out of this kate. One more time: they have no shortage of money, they have a severe shortage of cannon fodder in the trenches. When are you volunteering? I can even share with you a vunch of telegram channels of actual fighting units, they can fill you in on the details. Don't you want your hitherto meaningless life to be worth something?
>>2518574Rusnigga, if you believe that repeating things will make them real you are wrong. One more time: for a mere 300 bucks i can get a video of a ruspigger being blown with a drone my money bought. Thats a fact. You can keep whining, repeating, kvetching about balts and devs, making even more retarded arguments, posting gore and cp, it wont change anything. Me sitting comfy in my chair, giving money to the afu and watching ruspiggers die as a consequence of my actions. I commend you for advising me to kill more of your compatriots personaly, but im perfectly fine where i am.
Who wants to talk about the leaked buildI personally think the new Germany content looks really fun
Please can we go back to Mike sperging. That was so much better than whatever this is. Also its intresting how every time we get a new leak, the thread is immediately derailed, #noticing.
>>2518596>>2518599Your flowcharts suck, stop hiding it behind your politics and stop astro turfing.>>2518605I'd rather not have either Mike nor Kateryna shitting up these threads.
>>2518606Everybody I don't like is either Mike or Kateryna. I am obsessed with tranny BBC which means Kateryna must be shitting up the thread they must be! Its the only explanation for my obsession and not the fact I am a mentally retarded goy who is stuck in 2020.
>>2518596If routine corpse exchanges are anything to go by, about five to seven ukies get blown up for each ruskie. What do you feel when you see an ukie get droned? Or do you protect your fragile psyche from such uncomfortable notions?
>>2518605I’m not Mike and I’m not Kateryna. I am another
Hey guys, Kateryna here. I would like to thank all of you for not talking about the leaks and instead choosing to focus on the Slavic shitflinging contest instead.
Thread seems pretty retarded rn so i just wanna say the Canada leaks seem cool with how you can join the collab commonwealth, too bad Britain dev is dead
>>2518623When was the last time anything britain-related was teased or talked about?
>>2518616Retard we already talked about them, uncovered the porn hidden in the mod's code and they're making fun of you on Reddit, KF and every discord in between.
>>2518634oh nooo their making fun of TNO on the heckin kiwifarms and based discords i guess the whole team will rope themselves now.
since nobody wants to start discussing the leaks i willthe path where canada gets to recognise the collab british monarch is pretty kino although its a shame that they cant do active german alignmentapparently if the us fucks up the ofn it now founds nato as a replacement. nafo guys will be happy to hear thisthe wallace tree is nice i love how the self proclaimed social justice warrior that is mango just casually calls white people racial slurs multiple times during itthe entire malaya tree is just complaining about malay racism idk what to say about that
>>2518611Fortunately they are irrelevant. Rusniggers, being the true masters of chuzpah, often dismember their own dead soldiers, sneak them into different bodybags and present them as dead ukranians during the exchange. I personally had a hard time believing that your shithole nation, which is lying to everyone every single day, lied this time too, but here we are.Of course i dont like seeing ukies being droned. Seeing good guys being killed by some niggers is unpleasant. Thats why i feel sympathetic to them and donate to the afu, so the niggers attacking them would perish.
>>2518639>Heh, none of you are talking about me, I win>"Actually you're the laughingstock of the HOI4 community right now.">Heh, I don't care, keep talking about me, let me tell you how much I don't care in an exaggerated matter so that you know that I don't careLolcow behavior.
>>2518641>My world view has no evidence and the lack of evidence strengthens it because it proves how evil they are for hiding any trace that'd validate my outlandish views
>>2518623What path is that?
>>2518641>often dismember their own dead soldiers, sneak them into different bodybags and present them as dead ukraniansActual schizo hours around here, not even >ukranians themselves claim something this ridiculousLast (you) you'll get from me, don't respond
>>2518651It’s at the bottom at the left of the social credit party, they are supposed to be like a far right coalition if i understood correctly, only sad thing is Eddie is already dead by the time they recognize the collabs
>>2518655Its literally what the ukranian president claims. Keep embarassing yourself further. Like i said before, youre projecting your worldview, rooted in a lack of understanding of foreign languages, onto others and expect everybody to follow. Actual retard behaviour.
>>2518664>A foreign government of a country I have no ties to run by an Russian Jew told me this so it has to be trueI'm glad more of you /pol/tards don't breach your containment.
Please don't remind me he's a Jew, it makes me self conscious
I hope they nuke the entire stretch of land from Lviv to Magadan so I never have to see u guys slap fighting online again.
>>2518688That would likely render the whole continent uninhabitable, lots of people would die. Can you even imagine the world without gypsies, pakis and indians?
>>2518689
What do people think of Cuba
>>2518697One of the flowcharts people sorta liked. Your usual TNOism caveat apply but it seemed like a decent effort at least.
Have Kat and Mango finished shitting up the thread yet in retaliation or can I continue not engaging with the thread?
Seriously why did these people spend all of today arguing about slav monkeys? this is why Hitler wanted these niggers exterminated.
Can these Devs just announce the release date or fuck off and announce a delay already?
>>2518310>>2518316Exactly what this guy said, Why are they so fucking lazy that they cannot create skeleton content for the Baltic states and Kaukasien up to the 70s like everything else? What do you mean "Compatibility with the Kampfzeit" isn't the full 2KZ coming in Yippe!? If these devs wanted the update to release this year they'd do the work, but they aren't because a lot of them aren't active or are just lazy. Maybe its the fact the shoved a bunch of shit into the update and bloated it but honestly I still think they can get it done they just don't wanna do the hard work.
>>2518743Kat usually leaves in the evenings (freedom time) because he lives in Sweden. If you look at when the shilling is the most intense it's when those people are online.>>2518758There actually is a valid albeit sad reason for it: There is no point to make more than the demo content because Germany is also a demo country. It wouldn't have anyone to interact with so the content might as well end there.
>>2518657While that is really cool and I do wanna see that happen in australia and new zealand, is america really going to sit in the corner and watch as the fascist nazi collaborator commonwealth gets a foothold directly north of their border? Oh wait, why am I even bothering to pose this hypothetical, the chinese basically do the exact same thing and no one cares so I guess it’s realistic lmfao
>>2518762I do think it would be cool if the US did some military action in Canada
>>2518759So your telling me that after the 2KZ which ends in like 1964 or 1965 there will be zero content or anything happening in Germany and in there eastern possessions? No skeleton like events or anything?
>>2518766No they have the normal content in game already. The only thing getting changed is the early game. It’s why they’re not adding skeleton in the east, because it would conflict with Bormann and Speer content
>>2518762Remember no real wars can ever happen in nu-tno so america will just have to accept total chudmmonwealth victory, but fr in the flowchart america has the option to launch gay opps against the radical paths in canada to make sure they stay in their sphere
>>2518667>link to the RT pleaseShouldnt have started whining about casualty rate first, retard.
>>2518829I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about but since you're clearly a manchild that got lost on the way to /uhg/: RT here refers to a Round Table and these are sessions where the devs discuss their plans for the mod.
I preferred the meat cube meme (which /uhg/ simultaneously presented as truth and as a joke to pwn the ziggoids) to "ackshually they're mutilating their own dead to pass them off as Ukrainians somehow"
>>2518846Who the fuck was talking about the round table, you moron? You are literally retarded. I cant even believe you are able to breathe by yourself. Its a medical condition. Ease the burden on your country healthcare system and kill yourself.
>>2518865People request roundtable logs here all the time and the ones that are leaked are linked in the OP. They're some of the most coveted leaks. You, being mentally ill and conflating everything with your /pol/tard brain rot must be confusing things. Please go to the other board, this is a discussion about a wargame. Not real life, a strategy game.
>>2518869>and he doubles down on his own retardationThere is a discussion, yes. But you are not a part of it, as it requires at least a kindergarten level reading capabilities to participate.
>>2518875You're the retard for bringing your /pol/ shit where it doesn't belong and this is why everyone hates you.
can any one correct me if Iam wrong but the west Africa crisis is not working
>>2518887yeah the gui is busted unfortunately, same with the congo crisis. A good chunk of katanga content like becoming a part of the british empire isn’t coded in yet either But hey, at least the west african war is partly coded, so we can at least have france reclaim west africa
>>2518889>The biggest parts of DV still don't workHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>2518889Will France be able to reclaim West Africa in full or is it still the same bs where they under no circumstances can take back Mali and Senegal?
>>2518898All of it including mali senegal and guinea. Mauritania is invaded by morocco tho
>>2518898>>2518906Does it even matter if neither France nor any of these countries are playable...?
>>2518882>everyone>a samefagging rusnigger>a literal retard, unable to read context even kids can manage and jumping on me because of thatBeing hated by such kind of people is delighful.
>>2518913Your syntax feels very ESL. Are you some other non-human from Eastern 'Europe'?Seething about Russoids won't save you from being a slav or a gypsy lmaoooo
oh my god SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT RUSSIA AND THE FUCKING BALTICS NO ONE GIVES A FUCK BOTH OF YOU SHOULD FUCKING ROPE FOR SHITTING UP THE THREAD
>>2518913Everyone on every board hates your kind because you derail everything harder than ponyfags.>>2518914He's a Romanian man pretending to be a woman living in Sweden.
>>2518911Nigga it matters to me, why tf would I be asking this if it didn't matter.
>>2518921But why? Seriously, why? You can achieve the same things and with as much content and feedback if you manually add it yourself via the console.
Does TrooNO even feature the MAD cutscene like the original did? I'm willing to bet all paths that led to that outcome were rewooorked
>>2518914Erm, did you just call your compatriots "non-human"? First you tried to make me kill them personally and now this? Are you trying to bring yourself down, before ill be able to? Also, its pretty funny seeing you teaching someone english, while being proven to not being able to read even basic texts.
>>2518935It does but nearly all ways for it to trigger have been removed or made so that the AI will never do them.
>>2518936I'm not a Russian, you retard.I just think it's funny you're willing to die on this bizarre hill because you've been mindfucked by online psyops.
>>2518947Yeah it’d be really fun if during the middle of your run the AI decide to nuke the world and you have to reset. Retard
>>2518960Stop talking about old TNO which you've never played you absolute subhumanI know you have no clue why is your post extremely stupid but I won't even bother explaining
>>2518947Yeah they got rid of that retarded chicken minigame that caused the nuclear war cutscene. Honestly, good riddance, nuclear war should be an outcome of escalating specific proxies rather than fucking fishing boats
>>2518960A very nudev way of thinking. Here you take a valid complaint like "the shrimp nuke is annoying" or "the mechanics in Ostafrika are poorly implemented" and just delete everything and replace it with nothing. Yeah, no shit, the shrimp boat sucks but instead of making good use of a good scene you just threw it out. Why not have more conflicts and give them the risk to go nuclear if the player plays an atomic chicken race and it all goes wrong? The apocalypse and its aftermath is a strong scene and myself and others do like the events that followed it especially as it's implied that humanity lived on. It was a hopeful message that could've fit perfectly after many of the darkest events imaginable in the mod.Instead you deleted everything, replaced it with nothing, and now you don't even have any events left that could warrant it. What you have left is just the Haiti Nuke which let's be honest is comical at best.
>>2518988I do genuinely think that nudevs are just spiteful people who enjoy tearing up others work and revel in negativity they create. Kat is just on a power trip to see how much he can destroy before it all falls apart
>>2518988It's still in the game and you can cause it you troglodyte, it just no longer gets triggered randomly by the AI when you're trying to chill playing in Guangdong or Russia
>>2518952On what hill, you nigger? It takes a lot of retardation to be mistaken with a rusnigger on the basis of not being able to read english and you have managed to beat that treshold.
>>2518996>You can cause it!>It's just over shit that doesn't matter and we refuse to add anything that could make it work and have the impact it deserves, teeheeThanks for your input, devcoper! If you reread my message a few times you'll see that yes no shit it's still there you cunts just never did anything good with it and just destroyed an iconic moment better people handed you on a silver platter.>>2518995I think so too. They've easily spent thousands of hours each and all they ever hear is people reminiscing about the good old days and the only person fighting for them is Mangoloid Mike. It's a really bad place to be in, to be fair.
>>2518999Honest to god what the fuck do you want the Nuclear Apocalypse content to be? Do you really fucking want some sort of fallout scenario and post apocalyptic countries to emerge? Right now there is the perfect amount of content for it which is just flavour events for different countries with bits of post apocalyptic lore.
>>2519004Again, your nudev-tier brain is showing. No, just let it be the final possible escalation to something like Huttig using chemical weapons in the SAW and have a 50-50 on Germany wanting to cause a nuclear war over America responding with nukes to the images of gassed GIs in Africa. An escalation like that, all in the control of the player, would be a good use of the nuclear ending if the player rolls the dice and it turns up snake eyes with fail safes on both ends of the direction. But since you're a low IQ dev hand-picked by Mango because you're as stupid as him your only retort is to make a strawman about totally-not-Fallout becoming real and pretending that nuking Haiti is a good substitute for what you and your friends squandered as a result of your low IQ takes.
>>2519007Nigga im not a dev and im not the same person you were talking to before, what you are describing is already in the mod with the Channel Crisis where if both sides are at high escalation and there is no deal then it is nuclear war. Honest to god you hater retards have valid ammo to use against the devs but instead resort to the most retarded talking points ever that you in your circlejerk convinced yourself are good popular points to make.
>>2519013Again you act all high and mighty while you don't understand anything. That shit's just an AI only conflict and something that doesn't even come close to the severity of Huttig gassing American soldiers. Not that you'd know, you're a low IQ dev and no, you're not fooling anyone. You wouldn't be seething this hard if you weren't overdosing hardcore on nudev copium.That's why I used the SAW as a point of comparison instead of the hot garbage you retards made well after most people who knew what they were doing left. The fact that you don't even understand the difference between the SAW's player agency and what a shitty Britain demo provides is telling. Then again you guys are allegedly just reworking it anyway so maybe you do understand that it's hot garbage no one cared about.
>>2519018The devs are in my walls
>>2519019Thanks for surrendering, Kate.
>>2518999>It's just over shit that doesn't matter and we refuse to add anything that could make it work and have the impact it deserves, teeheeOk? So it's exactly as it was on release. Literally nothing has changed except your run isn't at the mercy of rng. I'm sorry that whatever hypothetical additions to the nuclear apocalypse you have in your head haven't been added.
i like tno ost ayden is overrated https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT7F23MTMhw
>>2519025I'm not sure if you're just deflecting or genuinely retarded but no, retard, we wish it'd be better. The mocking example in the post you're replying to is making fun of the shit that's in the mod now and what ayrt and others have said for years is that you should instead add conflicts where the stakes might warrant int instead of bullshit like the shrimp boat or Haiti. But, again, you've gone all the way on the opposite direction and now there's nothing that'd warrant the nuclear ending so why even bother.
>>2518906Can europeans reclaim colonies that they do not control in 62 like Ghana? Can Britain fully salvage what they have in 62 or even get more stuff like taking back Botswana?
>>2519071yes, britain does take over ghana and sierra leone if france wins the west african war. Britain can’t take botswana since germany forced them to give up their claims to the territory but they can gain katanga if the pakt wins the congo crisis. I’ve also heard that they can also get ethiopia and south sudan aligned with the empire but I haven’t seen anything definitive about that so take it with a grain of salt I don’t think nigeria can become a full on colony like in 1962 but they can join the pakt and the collab commonwealth. So it’s basically an african pakistan situationMike posted a map of what he was able to get through commands and it was basically everything minus Mauritania
>>2519074Oh totally forgot because it’s snca, britain can also get rwanda and burundi. Rwanda is ran by tutsi nationalists and burundi is ran by a basic bitch civ dictatorship
>>2519018Nigger, are you again sperging about some irrelevant bullshit?>tno ra is a fork not a submod>i dont like the channel crisis because no funni gassing killpeopleismNobody cares, ack yourself.
>>2519074Can I see that Mike map please
>>2519085
>>2519070They added Sealion II which can escalate to nukes
>>2519094Why would Germany establish three separate Baltic states and bolt pieces of Russia to each? What about the Baltics merits them this weird special treatment?
>>2519004>Do you really fucking want some sort of fallout scenario and post apocalyptic countries to emergeMeanwhile TFR got people all hyped up by toozing exactly that. Not that a nudev would understand, of course, making a fun and enjoyable experience have never been their goal
>>2519094Can Congo become sphere or pakt aligned? Can the equatorial african states that are part of this US of Latin Africa thing somehow become pakt or Sphere aligned? Can South Africa outright join or become a pakt observer?
>>2519101They're not states, they're administrative subdivisions of the RK where collabs get to have limited autonomy, and they extend into Russia because the German goal is killing/deporting Russians and moving the frontier of Russia eastward so 'Russia' begins as far away from Germania as possible and facilitate German settlement of the Baltic coast.
>>25191011. Kat things it's more historically accurate despite admitting that other options were considered 2. Kat things it's more 'interesting' to turn 12 sided civil war into a protest in Tallinn an option between 2 pragmatic native nazi collaborators 3. I just donated my paycheck to Azov and jerked off to people getting struck by drones Source: 300 random historical books
>>2519101German officials were debating it at the time and most took the pro autonomy reichprotektorat solution. Only bormann was hardline on it. The reason why germany allows this is because they view balts as racially superior to slavs, but they still wanted to settle the area so they gave the latvians and estonians bits of russian land so germans could take their place. Lithuania didn’t get the same treatment because they thought they were closer to slavs due to their historical relationship to poland. Estonia, latvia, and lithuania aren’t independent as they still answer to a reich kommissar in riga, they are just self governing autonomous regions that are allowed a degree of independence so long as they bend the knee to germany and her interests
>>2519106I think the question was why are there still three separate states, wouldn't it be more prudent to just merge them into a single administration
>>2519111It’s like releasing puppets in a paradox game, Germany wants to let the three nations do the hard work of colonizing and supporting their own administration (as opposed to the Germans having to run everything)
>>2519111It is one administration, RK Ostland, but there are 3 non-German nationalities in it with their own collab groups and Germany hates lithuanians more than it does estonians so they're treated differently. Beyond that you might as well ask why all the RKs shouldn't be merged, or just not exist and all be Grossdeutschland.
>>2519105Congo itself can’t become pakt aligned (although if tshombe comes into power, he is very willing to work with them alongside the US) Zaire distances themselves from the us and becomes a bit more open to the sphere but they stay neutral because the US has a ton of military bases in the area I know moyen congo can join the pakt if tshombe comes to power but 99% of the time the usla either go with kamerun or the US. the only exception is chad which becomes an italian protectorate I think south africa can go either way but I think they can if they keep luow
>>2519111That would just be a nightmare, imagine having 3 diffrent ethnicities all equally represented, trying to form into a unitary government. much easier to have each ethnicity govern themselves locally while germany makes all the important decisions
>>2519111These are the local authonomies under a single RK administration.
>>2519117How much can the US spread their influence in Africa tho? I mean can they get all of west africa and British east africa in their sphere? What about the whole situation in Egypt, Tunisia and Italian East africa, are they getting something in Yippie?
>>2519081>”guys guys I said ack and nigger do you buy im a real anon and not a dev now”Even the writing for the gayops is shit.
>>2519114>>2519116>>2519119Shut up Kat
>>2519120But do the autonomies *have* to be their own tags on the map?
>>2519100... A war that Germany auto wins. Thanks for admitting that you don't get it, dev.
>>2519094Somemore thingsSud Kasai can also survive the congocrisis and become a british colonyif commie cameroon fucks up all of its proxies it can get invaded by nigeria and turned into either a french (if hmmlr) or a british (if collab) colonySenegal and togo can get invaded by france and turned back into colonies so you can get back the entire AOF except mauritaniaif hall takes over america and sierra leone is british and guinea french liberia can submit itself and become a british protectorateand if the lumumbaist communists take power in the congo and britain won victoria in tanganyika and controls katanga and iberia still owns angola then an all-out colonial assault called "The Germania Conference" (basically a Nazi version of the 1878 Berlin Conference) can be launched on the congo and the USLA nations with the latter being rewerted into french equatorial africa and the former becoming a pakt administration of sorts
>>2519123Yes for west africa, depends for east africa since hmmlr has to win in the bcw. east african independence movements are generally sphere aligned. Tanganyika is sphere aligned and rhodesia will always align with the pakt, so the US will have to get rid of both which is easier said than done. It’s really hmmlrs britains decision tho since left wing governments immediately give independence while conservatives try to control who gets into power Nothing for italy in yippie africa wise (with the exception of chad) because it would mess up the already existing italy content. Might as well release it with good italy content where it would actually be relevant for the player
>>2519133Everything else in your post is true from my knowledge except for the last bit with the germania conference which seems like fanfic. The map is inaccurate which mike addresses as he said that senegal was buggy in his command window and there wasn’t any togo commands to make it a colony again Also why would britain want cameroon as a colony when it was already french after ww1? Germany isn’t pressing the issue and france wants the territory back anyway. Might as well take it if your french
>>2519132Nice moving the goalposts, turns out there is a high stakes nuclear conflict, so now you have to pivot to complaining about a non-nuclear conflict that's a fait acompli.
>>2519129I really don’t see why not. It make the map a bit more interesting instead of just blob RKs. Gives a bit of nuance too
Trannies' inability to understand that Atlantropa's purpose was to give Iberia a purpose will never fail to amaze me
>>2519143You're a retard, Atlantropa's purpose was to look cool and be 'le cursed' because it was a vaguely nazi-adjacent piece of redditor trivia. Panzer did not sit down with the brilliant idea for Iberia as some centrepiece of worldbuilding that had to be justified, it was an afterthought born out of a lazy attitude towards spain and portugal and the bare minimum of consideration for what the effects of atlantropa might be. It's actually blackpilling the devs put any effort into facelifting Iberia content instead of just having Portugal and Spain be their own thing. The one blessing is DV basically ignores Iberia and has Spanish and Portuguese colonies be seperate.
>>2519133i have evidence that backs up everything said but the last part. contact me - doctoragor
>>2519160Just post it here
>>2519125>>2519132>everybody I disagree with is either mike or kat
>>2519169To be fair most contrarian takes here come from them since they're, respectively, the mod's head janny and the biggest shill alive for DV/Yippie and both have been confirmed to post here.
>>2519004>Do you really fucking want some sort of fallout scenario and post apocalyptic countries to emerge?
>>2519138Devnigger, it isn't moving the goal posts if I say that everything added after you hijacked the mod doesn't fit the bill. Obviously that includes the ECW. Unlike say SAW the player can be left with no agency in actual fighting and Germany auto wins the war if they invade. It's terrible. You bringing it up and not understanding why it's hated is frankly embarrassing. Not as embarrassing as being on the team but still.
>>2519183Kat has probably never posted here people just larped as her and you guys are retarded enough to believe it.
>>2519201>HerOuting yourself once again.
>>2519206nobody cares about your zigger delusions retard.
>>2519219Nigga you have to pull a Pacifica and make something on par with Tabby if you want us to pretend to respect your pronouns.
If that second scramble for Africa was real I would be very excited for DV
I'd be ok with DV if it was it's own thing and didn't replace a more interesting setting.
Italy has a proxy for Chad and can occupy northern Chad if they lose
>>2519031Trve Nvke. All his music is just remixing other songs
>>2519235Don’t they just make them a protectorate anyways?
Im a gay little faggot obsessed with tno and I schizo post on this thread every day to talk to the same 3 people, please do not make fun of me
>>2519248Yeah but then the opposition launches a civil war, Italy has to deal with it
>>2519253That’s cool, Some proof would be nice Not saying your lying, it’s just that my usla chart doesn’t have anything chad related unfortunately
>>2519259Yeah it’s the only one missing. I’ll send a picture in a little while. Basically Italy takes over (I think the leader invites them) and they back him. The opposition then gets mad at him because he’s raising taxes so they unify and start an armed rebellion. There are two victory outcomes and six defeats (two phases in the proxy).
>>2519259Also I only know this because it’s in the leaked build files. Idk if Italy gets the actual proxy or not for Yippie (might be an event chain or something), I didn’t look at their content.
>>2519271I didn’t even bother to look at the events for chad when I was looking at the git that’s pretty neat, thanks for letting me know >>2519270Does france or italy do anything else with the usla beyond chad and cameroon? I know for a fact that cameroon can become a colony again, but I don’t know if the central african republic, gabon, or moyen congo can
>>2519275I looked at CAR, they had like 2 events in game. And Cameroon I don’t think becomes a colony of Britain/France, they are definitely in their sphere but their leader is always a native. I didn’t look at anything else in EA
>>2519277I guess cameroon hasn’t been implemented yet because I know from some reliable internal sources that a pakt aligned nigeria winning against cameroon turns it into a european colony like that one poster said(no lead on the germania conference tho)
>>2519094I hope this map is able to be updated soon with everything that's been discussed, The Germania conference thing sounds fake but also sounds really cool, if its true, German/Pakt Controlled Congo might be staying in Yippe! and not be removed like once thought.
>>2519129Vanilla hoi has it, why wouldnt tno?
>>2519129It’s just so that the player can understand what’s actually going on in Ostland
>>2519331Did they have to make them so fucking boring though?
>>2519335Meh. Belarus can get annexed by Moskowien and Lithuania seems to hint that if Glotz comes to power they have stuff going on. It’s kind of hard to make it interesting when no one in Ostland has any agency whatsoever. I think it’s moderately cool that Estonia tried to commit to the larp at least.
>>2519338It's fucking bleak when "this one unplayable tag can be annexed by another" is a genuine highlight especially when it doesn't matter.
In a move that I'm sure is unrelated to Mango and Kat being laughed at by thousands after the leaks: quotas are being raised! Congrats Greytides! You're welcome!
>>2519133Can the SA join the Pakt/EEC?
>>2519133Damn how do you know all of this? So what you are saying that there is a possibility of the whole africa being recolonized? Didn't think woke devs would go this route, I'm happy with DV desu.
Mike lay off the copium you're overdosing.
>>2519375while i am hardly as wellinformed as Miss Ramiel i have my sourcesyou might be surprised to hear but among the dev-proletariat and the middlemanagers dissatisfaction with the one man rule of mango and the rude and crude behavior of katheryna is very widespread theyi think that the leads too realized at one point that railroading the collapse of the colonial empires or making their maintenance an un winnable uphill battle is just bad for player engagement plus this way they get to shove more weeping and sob stories about the evil white opresors cutting off the hands of black african slaves down the throat of the playerwhich i think stupid while showing that the colonies werent exactly paradise for the black africans would be fine having like fifty national spirits and five hundred events about governor hendrik louis oconnel fifth marquis fartshire sipping tea and making merry while the village of isiUbuntu gets bombarded with chlorine gas bombs mkes them staler than a month old piece of bread
>>2519394>fifty national spirits and five hundred events about governor hendrik louis oconnel fifth marquis fartshire sipping tea and making merry while the village of isiUbuntu gets bombarded with chlorine gas bombsHuttig lives
>>2519394I know you're just trying to get my hopes up but I bet even the war crimes and racism will be lame.
>>2519362Are there even any consequences to not meeting the quota other than a stern message on trooncord? They can't possibly afford bleeding even more devs right now
>>2519394>among the dev-proletariat and the middlemanagers dissatisfaction with the one man rule of mango and the rude and crude behavior of katheryna is very widespreadWow if only they could something about it, my heart bleeds for poor devsImagine if we lived in a perfect world where forking was a thing or even if there were other forks already, now that'd be a pipe dream wouldn't it
>>2519435You get kicked if you miss too many weeks. Filling one week or quotas removes one strike.>>2519437A lot of people just don't want to make the jump. It's where their friends are, and yes it's bad, but it's something and it'll get better. This is their kind of thinking.
>>2519394>i think that the leads too realized at one point that railroading the collapse of the colonial empires or making their maintenance an un winnable uphill battle is just bad for player engagement plus this way they get to shove more weeping and sob stories about the evil white opresors cutting off the hands of black african slaves down the throat of the playerSo the devs litteraly did exactly what mike wanted
>>2519468Why not? He's their biggest fan.
sorry about the cropped image the guy who gave it to me says that every new chart has a different unique marker that changes between everyone who gets it to prevent leaks so he had to crop it to stay afloat
I'm trying to understand why and how a bunch of radlibs made NAZI FUCKING GERMANY a pragmatic boring Brezhnevite clique without slavery that is happy to let Sweden go socialist.Conversely I'm trying to understand why and how Amerikkka is already a fascist state that can only become wholesome if genderswapped Obama wins in the 70s. Meanwhile the R-D duopoly somehow survived completely unscathed from LOSING A WORLD WAR AND GETTING NUKEDHelp me figure it out, /tno/.
>>2519530https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canary_traplmao the leaks are so bad that they've started deploying actual counter-intelligence methods for dealing with this shit lmao
>>2519534It makes sense when you accept that the mod's just random people writing political fanfiction that suits their beliefs.
>>2519534Agreed. Nazi Germany has literally killed 6 million jews, how could they portray it as a normal state and not a doomed to fail batshit insane shithole?
>>2519542Read up on how the Nazi government functioned. Hitler forbade cabinet meetings after 1938 and later forbade more than 3 cabinet officials meeting over wine.
>>2519542Dev cope. You know people hate you for how you're depicting them and it's not because of Panzer's flawed railroading. It's because you took Nazi Germany and made it incredibly tame, sterile and boring.
>>2519546Whats your point here?>>2519548Thats what i said, Kat. Stop deflecting, you tranny.
>>2519551Holy projection.
>>2505828Frosty is retiring from modding,MOC (Mountains of Caucasia) will be integrated into DLW (Das Letzte Wort)I am not related to Frosty, i don´t interacted with him and I never played ZZZ.
>>2519556Good on him if that means he finally got fully away from the madhouse that is TNO. Hopefully he learns his lesson to never get involved with total snakes like that.
>>2519530Who’s Bernard Girard
>>2519574That leak has got to be fake. Janssens’ skin is too dark and that French guy’s portrait is just a totally different guy
>>2519556Again, I struggle to give a fuck for Frosty because even as late as this summer everyone who didn’t have their head in the sand knew perfectly well Mango was a shitheel who throws his friends under the bus and Kat is an egomaniacal Madame Guillotine, yet he blew smoke of their ass and didn’t care the entire time all the way up to the point it became his head at the chopping block so cry me a fucking river; swim with sharks you’re getting bit.
>>2519577I'm willing to forgive him because the comedy from Kateryna's fuckups and all the other hilarity this episode gave us is better than anything they've put out in years. His implementation of their shitty plans not being realized and him being remembered for all the damage TNO caused itself over him is the best thing that could've happened with this.
>>2519556Where was this posted?
>>2519556pixeldrain com/u/1Sw23s5vYippie! Loc Spreadsheet >>2519610In the dev channels of mountains of Caucasia
>>2519530Is it something like tiny pixels on the image or something embedded in the file? The former can be defeated via gimp, the latter via literally just screenshotting the original file if you don't want to bother with specialized software
>>2519621There's probably like a red pixel in a corner of the version DMd to one guy and a yellow pixel hidden elsewhere so that they can identify leakers that way.
>>2519551>Whats your point here?that nazi germany should be an insane power cartel of fanatic ideologues and radicals, with maybe one or two paths that are anything resembling "normal politics" (like speer)
>>2519631Because the soviet union totally wasn’t full of the exact same types of people yet they somehow managed to be “boring” and “bureaucratic”
>>2519634I wouldn't consider 20s-40s USSR to be boring and bureaucratic, don't think any sane person would so this is a very silly deflection attempt. And there's nothing wrong with that EXISTING under some Fuhrers. NuTNO is bad because it's all you get when really it'd make more sense as one of the paths you chose after Hitler's death, not have it be the default present in every route likely to get content this decade.
>>2519631Are you special needs
Baker are you with us?
>>2519644Not all fuhrers are the same you idiot, do you even read the leaks? If you genuinely believe that speer and goring or himmler and bormann are exactly the same, I have no choice but to believe that you are in some way mentally challenged
>>2519656Speer and Bormann are both neutered and Himmler nor Goering are releasing this decade.Source: you needed five years no not finish your Germany demo.
>>2519659How are Speer and Bormann neutered
>>2519654I'm here, I've made a fresh meme and I will bake within a day. We went from 8 to 10 real fast and it'll take a while to read over all the news. You can help by collecting all the new leaks that aren't partial teasers of charts and tagging them all in a single reply.
>>2519619https://files.catbox.moe/htklpm.pdfGermany Masterdoc by the way
>>2519556How long before he an hero you think
>>2519674>Speer has 300 locs, needs none>Bormann has 1500I'm starting to see why the dev seether here was whining about Jane all the time.
>>2519674This has everything. This might be our biggest leak to date. If this is recent they're completely fucked.
>>2519701>they're completely fuckedThey already are lol unless you mean their ego.
>>2519714I don't think anything could wound their egos.
>>2519701Didn’t this leak a long time ago? I’ve had this for the last 3 monthsMaybe I just got lucky but I can swear that the yippie loc tracker doc that leaked a while ago had links to every single development team
>>2519716It did leak back in the summer but it was less comprehensive. But since there are people on the team that just want to burn everything to the ground now I guess we got a more complete package.
>>2519715Only serious allegations.
>>2519733You'd have an easier time getting Trump to concede that he did something wrong than these guys.
>>2519716Yeah, we've had the links to all the live tracker docs for weeks. The devs haven't bothered to private them since they were posted either so I think they don't really care about people reading their loc or design docs. But apparently the flowcharts are the real treasures they're greedily keeping to themselves.
>>2519737These guys are on the left and people on the left don’t concede because everything they do is in their eyes for the greater good, conservatives bend over backward to appease people by contrast. TNO is by their own admittance just a propaganda piece and Mango detests the audience it cultivated so if they hate it he has by his own account succeeded. Only way for him to fail is if the VN/TCT crowd realizes it’s shit since that’s his actual target audience but don’t count on that since they don’t like HOI4 either.
>>2519776Flowcharts are the hottest traded commodity among the leakers aswell. They are legit hard to find if you don’t have connections, you either have to beg for them or befriend a leaker. Those are the only ways besides outright selling your soul for the tno dev team
>>2519798>Mike pays hundreds of dollars to a Leakcord scam
Does anyone know why work on France and Turkey stopped?
>>2519845Work on france is actually chugging along smoothly more or less. There’s work even recently if you check the locs. Britain dev is dead which is a shame because britain and france content go really well together Turkey is basically on ice for the time being there hasn’t been any progress and i’d chock that up to reworks in the middle east with the new iran content along with the expanded italo turkish war
>>2519848The France stuff is mostly to fill out the skeleton - it’s all leader bios and world events. As for Turkey, what is the expanded Italian Turkish war?
>>2519848No one believes France is progressing. Events being written doesn't mean anything. How do I know this? Because they started and gave up and restarted from scratch 50 times already.
>>2519848Can you post the loc doc link again? I can’t find it
>>2519849I’m an idiot, idk why I asked about France, work got delayed because of DV
>>2519807Urm acksually, Mike did that under his deadname so it doesn’t count
Can someone post the LATAM loc doc?
Why is everything but the roundtables getting leaked
>>2519849Surprisingly not true, a lot of them are actual events that come from the focus tree. The trees have been designed for a while and while not the main focus, things are going surprisingly smoothly as for the expanded italo turkish war, there is two seperate wars that occur before the war propper. One in cyprus and another in iraqi kurdistan, it’s in the Nu italy chart >>2519851 here: https://files.catbox.moe/3nhlyi.pdfthis is the link for all of the tno loc branches along with a progress tracker and various other goodies This leaked a while ago but I guess i’m the only dedicated archivist
>>2519887Yeah but those are all from 2024. The only new loc from 2026 is the skeleton stuff. As for the LATAM doc, it’s locked. I would need a pdf of it.
Most the new roundtable somebody...
>>2519919Post*
>>2519919Last one leaked was written by Frosty. Are we sure they haven’t done any since he got sacked idk just throwing it out there, even then it’ll probably just be dev cope like those were
I have finally gathered up the courage to speak to you once more under my role as Lead Developer.I have this responsibility unto every single one of you, who has been interested in this mod, chosen to follow it, be updated on it. It is with deep regrets that I have to announce that the original Mountains of Caucasia is gone forevermore. Know that this situation was the result of my hardships, know that I am to be blamed for letting it affect me.There might be people who claim to continue Mountains of Caucasia, they might say that they are following my plans and designs, know that what they will create in the name of Mountains of Caucasia won't be anything more than a mere shadow. Remember the original Mountains of Caucasia, remember me, remember the team, remember your times playing it. Remember and keep in mind that I cared about Mountains of Caucasia most than any other mod, and I have seen it like a literal child of mine, because it is.There is no eulogy. No memory for a modder. I will retire from modding completely. No requiem.Adjourned.
>>2519931I am sorry you are dealing with this man, It will get better and you'll move onto to greater things.
>>2519619maybe this is an old leak, but here are some highlights of event promts>We did it George! Completion of this focus is nice symbolism that has a sort of epilogue about Wallace's achievements. Shows the nation of contrasts Wallace has made, segregation by widening the gap of opportunities available to crackers and those not. But this is still triumphant for the Democratic Party.>Stimulus package for urban development in te south for industrial sector, of course its for increasing cracker hold on the economy. Racist ol' unions will be helpful>Bending to cracker groups. Beefs up the bill above to avoid civil rights and real justice in the sector of housing.>Nixon forces his Black Cabinet to bow to the whims of (racist) city whites by granting some preferential treatment to ethnic Americans (e.g. Italians, Greeks).Those are too much to paste here but in most of the nixon's foreign policy promts regarding it is requested for nixon to be heccin raycis towards beaners or pinoys or whoever.
>>2519931What did you get sacked for Frosty this is still a complete mystery and some of us want to know, you should settle it since the only explanation alleges you’re a pedo and that’s the one Kat and the team ran with. Provide screenshots too for proof.
>>2519933>>2519947Retard it's not me it's copypasted from frostys discord
>>2519947>>2505829Actually the line they're going with is: "I ain't explaining shit, it was drama (all his fault not mine), I refuse to elaborate shut up." You can see it there in the bottom left. Since literally no one fell for the lie it makes sense to just use that explanation in public and you don't need to explain it further to the other leads because they're fine with the lie since they benefitted from it (somehow despite destroying Russia dev).
All this drama has convinced me that there's absolutely nothing nothing a nudev lead could do that'd lead to actual consequences for them as a team member other than angering the wrong clique member.
>>2519631...just like in the VnJ docs. Which you didnt read and continued sperging instead.
>>2519984Dev cope. No, we know what's in them. Your entire build leaked too. We just hate it and you.
>>2519883Here you go https://files.catbox.moe/oxpdd5.pdf
>>2519984>My idea of interesting content is crazy office scheming by petty tyrants playing bureaucratic gamesJust make a game about TNO's behind the scenes scheming at that point.
>>2520000You do it since you keep insisting it's so interesting
>>2519999https://files.catbox.moe/0jgvjq.pdf - DV Loc Sheet for Mike
>>2520002The joke is that your behind the scenes shenanigans are fucking nuts and have made you into lolcows. It doesn't mean people would actually find a game like that fun.
>>2520004Got anything on Manchuria?
>>2520002>bro there's nothing interesting about our weird gayopsYou'd call what Mango did, manipulating an election by using Corn as a spoiler candidate to split the vote, then abolishing elections, unrealistic slop if it happened in a mod.Also, the bizarre fabrication of kompromat by Kat.
>>2520010Pushing out everyone involved in developing Africa and then giving it all to one of your friends, forcing in the integration of his unpopular submod and then telling everyone else to rework their reworks to benefit your friends also comes to mind.
>>2520000>my idea of interesting content is killpeopleismYou lost, tranny.
>>2520021Even within the false dichotomy you're presenting people that actually play the game will always pick Killpeopleism over nothing ever happens. There's a reason why Kalterkrieg is dead in the water and has been for ages.
>>2520025>your dichotomy is false>immediately confirms it and proves my point in the same very sentenceWhat a retard.
>>2520031How do you even rationalize the failure of Kalterkrieg as proof that people like when nothing ever happens
>>2520031It's not just ayrt's idea of interesting content, though, otherwise people would like Kalterkrieg.I don't even know what nuTNO's target audience is.
>>2520033I dont fucking know what a Kalterkrieg is, retard. How about finding some real argiments instead of huffing your own farts? Those "people" youre reffering to are retarded. Youre the prime example.
>>2520039>I don't know what the other nothing ever happens mod is but you're the real retard hereWhy does everything have to be two extremes, killpeopleism and nothing ever happening?Is there no sensible medium? A mixture of stuff happening and internal politics?
>>2519999Thank you
>>2520039>>2520025Kalterkrieg is basically nuTNO without the built-in legacy or audience. It pivoted in TNO's direction before its release and wants to present itself as a serious political mod. It failed and that's why people tend to compare it to nuTNO. The reason why I presented the dichotomy as false (either Killpeopleism or nuTNO nothingness) is because people like routes in TNO that aren't either. Tabby had the shock value to become known outside of HOI4 but leaders like Rurik, Yagoda and many others definitely have their audiences. Heck, I could easily add Emperor Nixon to the list and he's consistently been the guy that both nuTNO fans and detractors cite as a good case. But every time people say that they like these things, a dev or a dev-aligned critter puts forward the Killpeopleist strawman as the only alternative to a bad political fanfic. And like I said in my first post if you make people choose they'll pick bullshit like Tabby and Caligula over it every time because at least it's going to be memorable and absurd instead of bland and boring.
>>2520044There is. Its called proxy wars. Guess which mod has it?
>>2520053And you're replacing them all with SNCA that has zero stakes.That and shit lazily cribbed from OTL.
>>2520054You're a chud if you don't think a bush war with a tiny border adjustment in a shithole with no meaningful resources in the area that changed hands is superior to a war in South Africa vs Boer nationalists and the SS with the fate of democracy in Africa, as flawed as it is, on the line.
>>2520054It is not a proxy war. Next time dont voice your opinion on the subject you know nothing about.
>>2520060Could you name a proxy war they aren't removing, then?
>>2520053You people couldn't come up with a scenario with interesting stakes to save your lives.
>implying this shit is even coming out
>>2520065Most likely not.
>>2520061I can name a multiple proxy wars that are coming in the DV.
>>2520070Holy ESL.Do it, then.
>>2520009It’s open to access on the main localization doc.
>>2520054This is a bad argument since this war is just a small part of everything DV includes, which seems to include letting the US or Germany achieve near total dominance of Africa, restoring colonial rule in the later case. It shouldn't have been highlighted as a teaser tho
>>2520074Congo, FWA, Zambia, Tanganyika, Kenya.
>>2520039You are a subhuman semi-sentient entity incapable of a proper discussion, it's a miracle you somehow managed to learn grade 3 EnglishDo not reply, nothing you'll come up with will be worth reading
>>2520021What? How are those two things even related?
>>2520099Since he later went on to angrily admit that he didn't know what he was talking about while making typos up the ass he might just have been drunk or something.
>>2520099Are you retarded? Answer honestly.
>The TNO dev is incapable of holding conversations>He can only deflect, insult and seetheWhat living in a hypermoderated echochamber does to a mf
New teaser isn’t even worth posting here. Incredibly boring shit
>>2520110Nope. I've got a bachelor's in math.>>2520115Given the typing style it might be Mike.
>>2520118Is it something that already leaked again?>>2520130Mike might as well be a dev from how hard he shills the mod.
>>2520134Zanzibar proxy
>>2520148Why are these devs obsessed with proxy wars over tiny islands? They replaced the Oil Crisis proxies with some shit about Bahrain, picrel.
>>2520151Because nothing ever happens.
>>2520151they don't want tno to have anything originalthey want players to experience their lectures about otl
>>2520151They are propagandists, not authors
>>2520151Zanzibar invasion is one of the proxies that sets up the Big East African Endgame WarsBetween either strong Tanganyika and South Africa or weak Tanganyika and Collab Britain/South Africa
Here's the new leak posted today if anyone is curious.
I'm expecting a release date to be announced for Yippe! by the end of the month or beginning of December. When this many leaks come out in a short amount of time it usually means updates are close. They've said sense the end of summer that they believe they are on track to release it by the end of the year. I think they will get the work that needs to be finished done and it will be out by the end of the year. If I am wrong I still think an announcement will happen it'll just be an delay but still a release date will be announced for January.
>>2520179>Fighting over a random island near Africa>They're making a Denmark GUI for something this irrelevantThese people really are the dumbest motherfuckers>>2520181The entire Git is busted. This shit ain't releasing with substantial cuts in the scope if they want it out by 2026. A far more likely scenario is them just letting 2026 turn into 2027 without announcements and pretending that they didn't make this mistake in the first place.
It'll be really cool that collab Britain will be able to expand the Empire in Africa in Yippe! & Have Canada and all their subjects reunite with them. It's too bad British development is dead, if they had full content up to the 1970s I think it would maybe me the best content in the game. I hope it is completed one day.
>>2519999Do you have the Mediterranean loc doc too?
>>2520130Then perhaps you need a masters degree to read my post where i made a successfull prediction about the other guys preferences in content he unapologetically confirmed in his next post.
>>2520187It's boring but considering you can't really do a hoi4 war over 2 provinces i think a gui is fine
>>2520179Will they continue releasing weekly toosers till release, or will they just stop when a delay is announced?
>>2520196I think so, I am assuming they'll post new teasers for the update weekly and then when they announce the release date maybe do like a final teaser or something before the update drops.
>>2520194>Wargame>Take out all the wars from it>Jury rig a bunch of bloated GUIs to represent nothingburger nonsense too irrelevant to normally show off in the gameHow about don't spend the few resources you have on coding a minigame over a tiny island
>>2520193It’s not like having a masters degree really means anything intelligence wise considering quarterpounder has one and he’s currently the dumbest motherfucker on the internet
>>2520206HE'S FAT. HE'S POOR.
>>2520205I think people just simply don't want a Cold War mod for HOI4 at this point. How else would you make a mod to simulate any form a cold war between nuclear-armed superpowers
>>2520209HE’S TAKING HIS DOG’S PILLS TO GET HIGH! WOOOOOAAAAAHHH BUUUUDDDY!
>>2520218By focusing more on the various high-intensity conflicts that actually happened in the war. To put it in perspective: more people will care about the Korean War or the Iran-Iraq war than a Granada GUI.
>>2520192Nah, never got asked to do anything for them to get the doc
>>2520230Do you know how active they are?
>>2520218Cold War doesn't mean nothing ever happens. Original TNO was cold war too yet it featured wars. Even IRL there are currently no less than two active conflicts including nuclear-armed powers on at least one sideIt's just that shitting out political fanfics is much easier than finetuning the balance of large multi-tag wars
>>2520239You could argue that fine tuning balance isn't even a requirement. Aryan Brotherhood and Atomwaffen in TFR are both incredibly underpowered but still became very liked and iconic in both mods. For everything else:>Roughly equal forces on both sides>Each superpower can send an equal number of volunteersYou now have a multi faction war that's relatively well balanced. Is there room for improvement? Plenty but even someone that doesn't know or care about HOI4 could do this.
>>2520234By the time when I left the team they were pretty much dead, tho I can’t be sure as of now
>>2520247Yeah that's my point exactly, it's not that they can't implement an actual war in a cold war scenario, they just don't want to. These "devs" only previous credit (if you can call it that) is fucking TCT and it shows, painfully so
>>2520251Fresh bread straight from the oven!
