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gameplays up, gather around

https://youtu.be/o9G7qqBkTHg
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my first thought is that im not a fan of those 3d animated advisors
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at least the island looks decently sized this time around
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>>2506736
i guess its an alternative to pausing the game just to look at the caricature-style artwork
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Did they invent two/four-lane roads yet.
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>>2506733
Graphically an in terms of scale, looks good. Hopefully the gameplay is the same.
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>wind turbines
It's ogre
>t. only played tropico 1 and 2
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>>2507101
3 is basically a remake of 1, but adds things like cars. 4 is the last that followed the old format and starting with 5 they start the current era system and the focus shifts from being a dictator to mustache twirling supervillain, stealing landmarks by 6.
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>>2507002
Don't think I've never had a problem of running out of island in Tropico 6, to be honest.
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>>2507183
Are you implying some of us bothered playing each game in a strict fashion? Tropico 6 was basically Tropico 5.5, it's rare that Kalypso bothers to add anything NEW to each entry and they're on the 7th one in this. Nobody can tell each sequel apart from the previous one.
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i played 5 for like an hour before discarding it like bad garbage. i take it things haven't improved.
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>>2507195
A lot of people think 6 is peak which I find strange since it's pretty much just like 5.
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>>2507194
ok?
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>>2507223
I do like 6 because it at least fixes some of the issues with 5, 4 is still better tho
If you do get 6 either skip or disable the plague DLC because it sucks
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>>2507223
6 is mostly an improvement over 5, but it's very iterative.
You mostly play it for the vibes and you either enjoy the dumb humour or you don't and it's not that competitive in the city builder space. Tropico games in general are sort of not great as games and not that deep.
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>>2507194
well this one has terraform tools and sheeeeit
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>>2506733
GamerZakh and his affected enthusiasm kills me.
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>>2506733
How's 6? How simulated are the Tropicans and logistics?
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>>2507684
Each tropican has a house, job, their own needs, families and political affiliation.
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>>2507646
Where is he from anyway?? I can't put that accent anywhere
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demo up
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>>2507782
i played it for 10 minutes
it's just tropico 6.2, which is to say 5.3.
The demo ran okayish on a 1660 ti (6 GB) at max everything, and well at medium everything. Max citizen limit is still 10k. The grid system is improved over that of 6.


>>2507183
well the mountains seemed taller and the islands farther apart than they did in 6
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>>2507753
Malaysia, he's done videos on it
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>>2507831
are those 10k citizens actually simulated? thats not bad. CS2 shits itself at 100k
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>>2507839
yes, each one has a family tree, a profession, a residence, an opinion of the government, and so on. Same as in T6.
As colony-builders go, Tropico is pretty good. The 4-fags are perpetually butthurt that El Presidente was turned into a caricature of himself, but if you're someone (like me) who never played 4 and never will, then you'll just not be disappointed by what the series isn't.
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>>2507850
ill try it out later today. any new gameplay mechanics? just cuz this franchise rooks the same since T3
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>>2506733
>gridless construction looks cool
>animated portraits look horrible
>everything else looks like tropico 6
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>>2506733
tropico is effortless. It's easy to develop, is for dumb people or people that want an easy game. Even if they could bring more and more idea and great things they wont, because the main buyer is basically retarded. So they bring something new but effortless in each new game, you wont notice much difference from tropico 3/4 to tropico 5/6 except to some polished things. Also they add countless dlcs that broke the atmosphere and add nothing.
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>eraslop
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Oof. 3 minutes in and I don't want to watch any more.
When he clicks on a building the minimalist glowing square outline just makes me think they didn't consult an artist and that this is just another heartless city builder. The art direction in general is just drawing my eye to how flat the terrain is. None of these things on the surface were "better" in Tropico 4, but I would never think about them in 4, I may not even think about them in 5, but I did in 6, and I am here.

I assume the farms are once again squares and... did 6 also make ranches buildings you could just place next-to-next like factories where the animals don't eat grass?

Also I'm tired of the American Revolution angle. I don't think I'd like it even if it was freedom from Spain or America. Is the cold war too problematic to depict that we still need Penultimo wearing communist badges in a faux-1800s world with mixed architecture and following us 200 years into the safest parody of 202X?

The people remind me of Cities Skylines 2's unity asset store sims wearing painted on clothes. The first one he zooms in on in the colonial era is a fat white landwhale "man" from the 2000s with a 1900s latinx profile picture.

>>2506736
Imagine how many tokens they used to generate, rig and shittily animate those!
Imagine how big your graphics card needs to be to run this game!

>>2507223
5 is not 6. 5 is closer to 4 and more of a game. Yes I prefer 4. Yes I refunded 6.

>>2507850
>The 4-fags are perpetually butthurt
Yes and rightly so. Same as fans of 1 are right to be upset the full political spectrum fell out the bottom.
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They got rid of Russia as a power in the modern era. How the fuck am I gonna roleplay as an anti-Western autocrat without Russia as a modern era power? 5 of the 6 powers in the modern era are pro-Western, and the other is neutral.
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>>2510868
zorks are canceled chud, you will embrace the globohomo.
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>>2510868
wait...they took out russia but didn't add china?
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>>2506736
This is honestly my biggest problem. The cartoony artwork was part of the games charm, the 3c portraits are just boring and generic.
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>>2510871
...China has been there in every game since 4
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>>2507910
it's such a wasted concept desu
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>>2510868
it's dumb since russia is way more involved with venezuela and cuba then china
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>>2510868
>as a power
Do you mean superpower or entirely-
>entirely
oh dear.
I don't really understand why Brazil is a big player. Or India. And actually naming the Saudis would surely ruin the joke of the camel people being interchangeable oil barons and mean you're now expected to write satire specifically about the royal family but nothing that would offend them. In fact I can't see them writing a biting satire of India or finding an accent that isn't shit to listen to. I just want to forget roaches are literally everywhere.

It also looks like the factions are solely:
>communists
>capitalists
>religious
>intellectuals
>militarists
>environmentalists
No industrialists I think is good, given they simply cannibalise the capitalist faction.
Not sure why there are no nationalists but I'm probably glad. I thought they were gone in Tropico 6 but looking it up, they put not-Alex Jones in charge of the euphemistic "Conservatives". A shame the loyalist faction is still not with us. I would have thought personality cults would be good satirical material in current year. Though what little I can look up of 6 (the most complete wiki appears to be a broken English Chinese one, gee, I wonder why 6 didn't kill the IP) says funny people did indeed stop existing by 2012.
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>>2510868
G*rms are mentally ill
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>>2510961
Germs love russia though. Their leaders are sucking oligarch cock to get executive positions at russian companies.
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>>2510957
switch brazil to russia and its fixed
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>>2510957
Considering you are the leader of a Caribbean nation, Brazil does actually work as a regional power you have to deal with. Especially in the earlier eras when they were still capable of projecting power internationally. After the Cold War era though, lets just say that they are lucky Argentina managed to be even bigger fuck ups by the end of the 20th century to distract people from their own fall from grace.
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>>2507850
>Hasn't played 4
>thinks anything past 4 is good.

I guarantee you couldn't handle Tropico 1.
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>>2511220
How would you fix image related?
I'm still not sure what the revolutionary-intellectual is supposed to be a take on. I guess I never did. I assume she's just that woman from Tropico 5 again who enough people then mistake the industrialist faction leader for being because there's nothing distinctive about her unlike Sunny or Miss Pineapple.

I'd rip the tattoo off Sunny's arm if she has it in the final version. She should not pull double duty for the modern version of women enjoying free sex, free drugs and free sun, even if it's clear we have no business-tourist faction for that. In fact almost nothing here makes sense beyond the cold war.
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Is there combat? I ask this every time a new tropico game comes out and tropifags always tell me...
>Tropico isn't really about combat
To which I reply
>Fuck u
All I want is to build up my island and turn it into a fucking warzone. Roll my T55's down the road to stamp out rebels, fighting in the streets while they make another attempt to storm my palace. Sim Mogadishu basically. Why can't I have this? Peacefags can still play peacefully if they want, I want my mini Vietnam.
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>>2511342
>How would you fix image related?
As leader I would impregnate the two on the left so they don't turn up to future meetings. I assume one is environmentalist and the other is communist, they all look like nice people I just don't feel I could balance their happiness all that well with all the conflicting worldviews. With those two impregnated and gone I might be able to juggle military, religion and capitalist...
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>>2510936
how are they neutral?
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>>2506736
>barely seconds into trying the demo and i immediately wonder if im playing an Anno game instead
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>Hear Penultimo speak
That's not Penultimo..
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>>2511541
Penultimo's son, Ultimo.
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Why the hell is the Crown represented by England if i'm a Viva Cuba Libre larper since Tropico 1
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>>2511549

Great Britain might have taken it some war in the 1700s but I agree it should be Spain.
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>>2511358
There is some yeah. This time it seems more RTS like altho the last Tropico o played was 5 and combat was dogshit
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combat was always wonky in this series, topping off with 5 and repelling superpower invasions with your little island army. At the very least in 6 they made a superpower invasion game over again like it should be.
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>>2510868
That is quite homosexual. They should add Russia back and North Korea as well.
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There could ve a whole questline where the north koreans kidnap penultimo to be their new leader.
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>>2511362
The communist is !Che Guevara in the middle, the woman next to the hippie is the intellectual
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>>2511549
idk but it's easier to feel like an oppressed underdog when you're listening to a posh british man calling you quaint than a horny spaniard going jajajajaja cabron
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>>2511605
>At the very least in 6 they made a superpower invasion game over again like it should be.
Yeah but they would still send smaller forces first which you could fight off.
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>>2511549
Been that way since eras were introduced in Tropico 5.
American Audience + Easteuro Dev = American Revolution (despite them becoming very familiar with American-Carib cold war news and the history of latin dictators)

Tropican Greencoats look ugly as sin.
Yes you'd hope they'd have instead tried to do a Spanish, French or American overlord. But maybe it's as excusable as you being a traditional colony game where you're a destination for migrants, which is very strange for a Latin American dictatorship, or any dictatorship.

>>2511605
I thought that was how 5 worked too, or did they just send ever increasing armies?

>>2511647
>it turns out Penultimo wasn't even in North Korea
>he was in South Korea all along and happily living in a cult, serving another Presidente
>you see our maps were upside down, and we only found out when we invaded what turned out to be New Zealand, where all but our generals were eaten by loud tattooed warriors
>[all soldiers die in Tropico, -10 Relations with Oceania, Penultimo returns]
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>7
There's a point where this has to stop and we've clearly crossed it
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>>2511342
Miriam Godwinson is BACK
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>>2511605
I like both, with the smaller forces just coming in to destroy your only profitable factory feels proportionate.
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>>2511853
We must dissent
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>Tropico 7
>Looks the same as 6
>Which looked the same as 5
>Which looked the same as 4
Why would I buy the same game yet again?
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>>2512151
>7 = 6 = 5 = 4
>but 7 != 4
curious
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>>2512151
it's incrementally better than the previous version
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>>2512151
5 looked nothing like 4
6 recaptured some of 4's style.
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>>2512144
Would El Presidente build brood pits or staple nerves?
>>2512288
kek
>why am I here
>you are the eventuality of an anomaly which despite my sincerest efforts I have been unable to eliminate from what is otherwise a harmony of communist precision
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>east point academy bug
Tropico was always woke!

This would be game breaking if the game didn't throw money at you.
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>>2512303
Yes, and punishment spheres <3

-50% tech is no problem when you got none anyway.
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I've heard two songs from the Tropico 6 sound track IRL. One at a Lebanese restaurant in Texas, one on a cruise ship on the Nile River.
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>>2512474
Nice, is it arranged by Gilberto Gil again? Some really nice soundtracks in the Tropico games.
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>>2512474
Which ones
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>>2506733
>Maybe The Best City Builder Of 2027
what else is there even?
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>>2512643
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and
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>>2512474
Tropico 6s sound track was s fucking banger, almost on par with 3. 7 seems to be just as good as 6 so we'll be eating good in the OTS department at least.
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>>2512618
IIRC, the restaurant was Sol de la Manana, but that was months ago. The boat on the Nile was Bienvanudo a Tropico, without lyrics.
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I haven't played Tropico since 4. Are 5/6 worth getting into?
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>>2515636
You can safely skip 5. 6 takes everything they tried in 5 and polishes it while adding back some of the 4 feel. Everything about 5 just felt off to me like it was a Tropico from a different dimension where everything was uncanny and slightly off.
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>>2515636
its a drastic change, with the new era system instead of just merely 1950 on. Tons of other things have changed as well, its practically tropico in name only.



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