Youtube is beta testing a new "top fans" feature. Need it or keep it?
>>112013934Keep, it will show which faggots leak stuff.
>>112013934that's dumb as hell, bots would just hog most of the slots
>>112013934Extremely stupid feature. Why would you intentionally want to reduce your reach? Just make it unlisted or private at that point.
>>112013934the paypiggy button
>>112014386They are optimizing the whales.
>>112014476more like the "watches streams instead of clips" button
>>112014520What about clippers who work for the chuuber?
>>112013934Imagine the infighting and insecurity this will cause when a streamer uses this feature only a single time and people learn where they are in the fanbase. Keep it definitely.
>>112013934Horrible idea. It's going to create infighting in every vtubing community because it's entirely biased.
>>112013934just fix the fucking search function suzanfuckass indian website
>>112014666it will never be fixed. you look at more ads if you spend an hour trying to find a video. same thing happened to search.
>>112013934>poor's man membershiplollmao even
>>112014386special videos for your superfans obviously
>>112013934JUST STOP GIVING ME UNSKIPPABLE ADS FOR FUCK SAKE
>>112014520Get ready to setup watch time bots to sell top 1% content. That’s horrible design for /vt/ as nobody watches streams
>>112014666Susan died bro. The fucking Indian CEO ruined search.
>>112014871What? More drawing cams?
>>112014938your firefox with ublock origin? your revanced/morphe if you're a phonefag?
>>112014989>Indian CEO comes in and makes shit worseOh it's a Microsoft situation. Explains the heavy push for AI slop too.
>>112014938imagine watching ads in the year 2026
>>112015012YES
>he isn't in the top 1% of his oshi's audience
I got a 0.1% viewer in the end of the year youtube rewind for my chuuba and I don't even watch every stream. It's just a clipfag deadsub filter.
Seems like a waste of an option.
>>112013934>top 1%How does that work for 2 views. Hell, even a 3 view would be streaming to like two people lol. If it's an archived video, do the people who have access in the future change depending on people's continued activity? Imagine making a video tailored to a handful of close supporters, but a year later some of them can't even open it because some annoying spammer is camping chat and the last time you banned one of his sockpuppets, youtube gave you a warning for unfair harassment.I actually hope they implement this, because it's such a poorly thought-out clusterfuck.
>>112013934most holos don't even use the tier memberships to do their content so I don't they will use this for the same reason.
>>112015884This, anyone with a brain will realize this will create uncessary fractures in their fanbase
>>112013934>top whale-only streamsYeah sure looks like a great feature that couldn't possibly go wrong in any way
Basically private with extra steps. A very easy way for an (x)view chuuba to become an (x-2)view without any particular tangible benefits.If the point is to instill FOMO amongst streamers' fans, there already is a feature for that called "membership".>>112016001Yup, you'd have to be one of the dumbest bastards in the world to think that using this "feature" is a good idea. The only vtubers who use this are monumentally stupid indies, and agency vtubers with monumentally stupid managers who "encourage" them to use it as a condition of continued employment.In totally unrelated news, I can't help but wonder how long it will be until Niji EN management "encourages" the bottom 5 girls and Ryoma to use this "feature" as a condition of continued employment.
>>112013934It's purely an profit choice. YT thinks viewers will fight each other to be the 1% and watch more ads that way. I already have a second PC running playlists of my oshi with an anti pause script.I could see someone like Mozumi or others who complain about their income use this feature
>>112017931>make videos with ads only shown to 1% of viewers, this will make people watch more videos (which have ads)That's kinda stupid, just keep the normal videos where you can "serve" ads to 100% of the viewerbase
>>112014666It has driven me insane for years that Google theoretically should have one of the most robust search infrastructure in all of tech but you cant search for shit on youtube. You should be able to search videos by keywords down to a specific date of a specific year.
>>112018096It's fucking insane. You can type in the exact video name and it will never show up. Instead you'll get the exact same 3 videos related to whatever the most popular word you said was, with no way to change it
Use for focus group testing, but not for finished content.
>>112013934That option is going to kill some careers.
>>112018023doesn't matter if the fan video has ads or not the community will watch more of the normal videos that have ads to get into the 1% or stay in it. This system will increase the views no matter how you look at it.
This is what bilibili does to pad their viewership stats
Paypigs don't watch streams or comment often, that's what parasocials do.
So like a bunch of other stuff on YT users with Adblock won’t get counted…
>>112018096They're finished with the innovation and growth phase, now they're in the enshittify phase.
>>112013934...doesn't this encourage fans to bot channels? If the number of viewers goes up, 1% of the viewers is more people so someone on the edge of 1% can suddenly make the larger cut.
>>112013934>should we improve>no no, just add a new "feature"every time...
>>112018096have you used google in recent years? it's for product pushing first and foremost. no shot are they gonna fix youtube's search anytime soon
>>112018251lol. if it catches on, yup!
>>112013934Please, PLEASE, I NEED THIS. Imagine Saba doesn't actually stream, but suddenly she posts "Thank you to my top fans for watching my content " on Twitter, the melty would be glorious.
>>112013934Ah yes, the youtube 1% joo class.
Wow a viewer oshi button
Saba has been using it for months. Complaining about no streams shows you're a tourist
>>112014666they even removed the option to order by newest
>>112014386whale breeding farm
>>112013993In what universe would that help?Unless 1% of your viewers was literally 1 that wouldn't work.If it was 2 or any other small number it would be infinitely worse because of the fights it could cause. That kinda shit could destroy communities.>>112014386>>112014871That's the silly thing though - that's exactly what a membership already stands in for now.I cannot see any purpose for this that memberships doesn't already cover.>special previews of projects>limited time deals>cute lil short videos showing your appreciationAny other reason along these lines is stuff that memberships is already good for now.Imagine a bunch of obsessive greys got to see a project before long term members on some expensive as fuck tier but they only did it through support for said projects and don't have as much time to watch streams for example.That would be a right kick in the dick to those types of people.Putting it in the 1% and then in memberships after a period is about the only viable thing I could see, but even that's still going to irk some people the wrong way.>>112018251Definitely. I hope nobody is stupid enough to abuse this. It will fracture fanbases, especially members.
>>112024071>102 daysKekking
>>112013934According to YT rewind I'm in the top 0.1% of watchers for my oshi, I've seen most other anons also being in the top 1% or above for their respective oshis so I can't imagine it'll really effect anyone /here/ (at least those who actually watch vtubers as opposed to just shotposting clipwatchers). Can't see many chuubas choosing to use it though.
this idea is so incredibly stupideven if you create content that reaches 1 million people, you now are limiting something to only 10K peoplethats just so stupid on every front
>>112018540ted was right
>>112013934YouTube is broken in fifteen different ways rn and this is their focus
>>112017225New shit features from YouTube reward you with an Algo boost all the time, everyone will try it out just for that
>>112026305exclusivity, anyone can spend 5usd and be part of the club (or even play the system and pay a few cents) but only a few dedicated can see the fan material.As you said the most friendly solution will be to put something in the fan tier and then release it to members a few weeks to a month into it. some Channels already do that with members to public.
>>112013934They should upload to that and just insult the retards who waste that much time
>>112013934I have all the tracking turned off, so I never see the "wow you're in the top 1%" shit. So, you have to opt in to tracking to be a top fan. Fuck you youtube.
>>112014938uBlock? Pi-Hole? Router DNS? NewPipe? Nigga, stop being so technologically impaired.
>>112029270pihole and router dns won't skip embedded ads.
>>112013934weird way to do membership content
>>112013934GroomTube
>>112026305>cannot see any purpose for this that memberships doesn't already cover.If you want to do something for specifically your most long term dedicated fans you interact with every day and not everyone who can afford $5-25 membership or the pennies it probably costs in other currency It could do with also having an option like "membership of x length" rather than calculated by YouTube
>Yeah, I'm part of the 1% hmhmmm
>>112018096Just wait until you learn what they are currently planning to do to google search in itself. It'll be gone soon and completely AI chat.
>>112033356>be the most loyal fan>be there from debut>watch every stream live>comment on every VOD, video, short, community post etc.>be highest tier member>not get counted over a literal freeloader because youtube's retarded AI believes you're using an ad blockeryeah, this will go so well
>>112034143Sure buddy
>>112026305>That's the silly thing though - that's exactly what a membership already stands in for now.nahmemberships are for the paypiggies"top fans" are the ones who watch everything you post or stream
I like it. reward people who watch streams
>>112013934it would make more sense to have a whitelist function. there's no reason to believe that the top 1% will be your biggest fans. that's not how it fucking works lol. they might be your biggest haters
>>112036893maybe that's the point, put out some bait and when the dramafags start drama fagging point out that they're obssessed with you
>>112037107vtubers shouldn't engage with people like that at all or waste any time on them
>>112037304yeah, and junkies shouldn't do drugs
>>112036893It probably won't even name and shame your top 1% watchers. How would you even know who they are except to trust youtube (who will would profit from your stalkerschizo tracking you down from your premium videos)
>>112013934Nice try mr pajeet but I will not turn on youtube history
>>112037989it didn't occur to me but yeah this will definitely massively spike traffic because people desperately want to get into the top 1%. oh i see what they're doing now lol
>>112034143The calculation heavily weighs the channel liking your comments
>>112013934How does this work for people that watched videos but have watch history turned off? You're just automatically excluded?
>>112038042anyone that actually releases top 1% videos is going to get massive amounts of hate. the only ones who'll do it is the mr beast types that'll turn it into a game
>>112038289Watching a video is only worth like 0.1% of having a comment liked by the channel
>>112038393sure but they don't have to release them, people will still want to be the top 1% just in case they ever do. it's pre-FOMO
>>112013934Google only cares about getting people to donate and watch content for ad revenue. So getting people to be competitive over who is the top fan is easy profits. It's pretty gross behavior on Google's part but capitalism is full of gross behavior when capital is the only thing you care about.
>>112038589it's gonna be funny when people start posting dead links and pretending to be top 1% to make people seethe
>>112038733i've already seen it happen
>>112038289yes. give google all your data or you can't view the special message from your oshi.
>>112022376It wouldn't even need to be Saba, it could just be some shit stirrer with a inspector edited screenshot saying something like "Who else was there for the 1% stream?" The only legit use case I can see for this is announcing limited merch to your fans first, then having a general launch announcement a day later.
I guess it can counter people who just sub or buy a membership but never actually watch streams. maybe to gatekeep certain content from member bots who are just there to scrape content
>>112013934/vt/ is seething because they don't watch streams