Nijisanji EN YouTube channels:https://www.youtube.com/@nijisanji_en/channelsX:https://x.com/NIJISANJI_Worldhttps://x.com/i/lists/1415262975435231235LazuLight:https://x.com/EliraPendorahttps://x.com/FinanaRyuguOBSYDIA:https://x.com/Petra_GurinEthyria:https://x.com/MillieParfaithttps://x.com/EnnaAlouetteLuxiem:https://x.com/Luca_Kaneshirohttps://x.com/Shu_Yaminohttps://x.com/Vox_AkumaNoctyx:https://x.com/Sonny_Briskohttps://x.com/Uki_Violetahttps://x.com/Alban_KnoxILUNA:https://x.com/MariaMari0nettehttps://x.com/AiaAmarehttps://x.com/ScarleYonagunihttps://x.com/RenZott0XSOLEIL:https://x.com/D_Dropscythehttps://x.com/MelocoKyoranhttps://x.com/Ver_VermillionKrisis:https://x.com/VezaliusBandagehttps://x.com/Tyrant_Vantahttps://x.com/YuQWilsonTTT:https://x.com/ClaudeClawmarkDenauth:https://x.com/RyomaBarrenworthttps://x.com/KlaraCharmwoodBY THE BEAT:https://x.com/by_the_beathttps://x.com/Seible_2434https://x.com/KaelixDebonairhttps://x.com/Freo_2434https://x.com/ZealGinjokaTeamup schedule for Nijisanji EN:https://teamup.com/kstk7egnopr3xiqj4hTo watch streams at the same time:https://niji-mado.chats.ninja/homeGraduated Livers and Miscellaneous:https://rentry.org/7k4s6manReminder to ignore bait, shitposting, samefags, discordfags, numberfags, tribalfags, and falseflaggers.Previous thread: >>112135281
is dytica en
guys...
>>112141320hi
Graduate the remaining Lazuwhores.
Like clockwork again it's hilarious to see people post about JP like they know anything about it and being completely wrong. Like that one retarded guy yesterday claiming if NijiJP did a Mario kart tournament it would be gender split.
I think the way to solve all of this is a new JP wave full of female sexpests to sekuhara the EN boys living in japan, it would be kino
>>112141320henlo
>>112141230You know nothing about either of those corpos/branches if you're saying this. Holostars have always pandered to fans of the holofemales from the beginning so that's why female fans don't gravitate towards holostars. FSP was trying to copy nijisanji by collabing with females and that's why their numbers declined drastically. Instead of watching them, fans went back to watching Nijisanji instead of the Nijisanji copycat. So this is a bad argument.
ALL OUT CIVIL WAR
>Reminder to ignore bait, shitposting, samefags, discordfags, numberfags, tribalfags, and falseflaggers.
>>112141336Anons should just stop comparing EN to JP and asking why stuff that works there doesn't work here. The EN community is very different, livers and fans alike
>>112141392Post the other one, numbermonkey!
>>112141390so go beg them to change instead if they're further away
I'm fine with male-female interaction but I'm tired with moral blaming by the girl fans, if my fav get a nice things they will say it favoritism, if the girls song cover or original song flopping, "you guys aren't supporting the girls enough!" "You are internally misogynist".I wish I can stan a group and enjoying them without a burden to support another whole gang that I didn't care. I don't hate them but blaming me for your failure to support your oshi, makes me hate the girls fans. Remember how mad they were with finana & millie ENcounter song for being flop, it took months & infighting for them to reached 1M views. While Enna & Elira only took one month, maybe because your support weren't enough and it's not my fault.
>>112141401FUCK youWe LOVE replying to fatty, metaposting about him, and knowing little details about him UNIRONICALLY. If you don't like it you should DIE.
>>112141404But shu yamino....
ESL thread
Nijien will never claw their way back will they?
Everyone really should re-read the lyrics of Virtual to Live again to understand the Nijisanji way of how fans should express their support.
>>112141401>discordfagsshould we ignore paladin, myanon, ririmuanon, and other groomcord anons then
>>112141429You and me both. I was actually indifferent to the girls and even subscribed to Rosemi and Maria because they seemed nice. But the behavior of the fans and even some of the girls turned me off from ever watching any of them. It just soured everything for me. I just stick to my corner with my oshi now away from the drama.
>>112141490yes
>>112141429have you considered actually supporting them instead of kicking down the ladder after pulling yourself up?
>>112141460Blame it on Runella
>>112141429>moral blaming by the girl fansthe real fans of the girls know better than to stick their nose in drama. it's always performative fans of the boys attacking other fans of the boys for not doing enough for the girls (whom they don't watch)
>>112141460it’s SEA time now
>>112141429Anon....before the boys showed up, the girls were doing much better than this. The girls drag them down like a lead anchor.Even the most popular boy in the branch would be outclassed by 2021 Rosemi, who was one of the lowest viewed.
>>112141515Is this post about fans of the girls? Because if not then you are actually proving their point.
>>112141490considering that this thread is maintained by groomcord these days, nobody should post and we should let it die for good
>paladin>myanon>ririmuanon>fatty>auditionanon>pomuanonwho else?
>>112141429>>112141499LMAO foids are terrible fucking people
as if gender really matters. it's just who has the most fans, especially jp. luca and vox don't get as much shit as shu, ver and doppio will never get as much shit as meloco
>>112141616Nobody hates women more than other women.
>genderwarswe are SO back
>>112141651This and people still didn't get it why shu keep getting merchs from in-house and 3rd party for 383839488th times
https://poal.me/8s6ltghttps://poal.me/a1oif4
>>112141651shu and luca are more popular than shu
time to debut ten more girls, one from each continent
>>112141666That can't be true... I was told that NijiEN was a FAMILY and constant coed interactions would be good for everyone...
>>112141818at least check what you type before you shitpost
>>112141616>>112141666>>112141831Nice try, samefag. We all know how you feel about male vtubers so don't try to project.
>boys destroy the girl's viewerbase>"don't expect me to support the girls"
>>112141871I DIDN'T GO AROUND CLAIMING OTHERWISE YOU DUMB FUCKING ROASTIE
>>112141871keep seething sister. I love male vtubers especially luca and kuzuha
Alright but every anni merch is the most highly anticipated so idk why tf there hasn’t been any communication on that part and nothing has been dropped, whether it’s the anni company (that already sabotages the anni merch) or Niji it’s really frustratingIt’s such a stupid decision if they decided to halt/stop it all together because that’s what all fans from groups or NijiEN in general WAIT for like personalized merch or pretty art to congratulate such a milestone
>>112141884Calm down, I can't have a conversation when you're so emotional like this.
>>112141893James Charles watches vtubers?
>>112141882>girls treat themselves like onaholes and throw themselves at the boys>this is somehow the boys' faultI remember when the boys literally forced the girls at gunpoint to collab with them. That totally happened.
>guyssss you have to put up with my disgusting homos sharting up your streams because the mainstream audience will like it>wait you want me to support the girls too? umm, ick?
>>112141908Because everyone who hasn't moved to Japan by now is graduating
personal advice before it gets to this point: don't take out your anger over a company's choices out on other fans. that doesn't get anything done and just leads to fandom grudges and a more isolated fan experience. weaponize your anger for creative projects instead.i wish there was an immediate solution, but four years of emailing and posting later and still no bday or anniversary goods. eventually the pain subsides and you stop waiting for this company to want your money and say "guess i'll keep doing everything myself" in the meantime
Aloupeeps keep getting marriedhttps://twitter.com/noireous/status/2058768534436724846https://twitter.com/EnnaAlouette/status/2058918215028511131
>>112141884Why are you incels like this?
>>112141969wait that's a famelira why is enna creeping on her friends' fans...
are there any real anons itt? no? just me? okay
>>112141952Luca tried to strongarm Vivi to collab, so yesIt's openly known the way these collabs have been run is by "first signup" on the discord, with no gender preference permitted. So the boys would immediately pounce on any collab with girls. It was so bad that for 6 months we didn't have a single all-girl collab. Even casual girl's streams were frequently invaded by boys in chat or in VC
>>112141967I know your stealing this from suha's fans
>>112141956Incel-kun....you're gonna have a hard time believing this but none of the fans of the boys wanted the guys in the whores' streams in the first place. The girls encouraged them to interact. They knew they could appeal to a new audience of men if there were males in the stream.
>>112142024Alright fat ass, get back to posting retarded /pol/shit so you can get banned again and let the real gender warriors focus.
>>112141908i guess you could speculate that they're planning to merge EN with JP like they did KR and ID, but idk i feel like that'd be dumb even if EN is hemorrhaging money
>>112142041>They knew they could appeal to a new audience of men if there were males in the stream.LMAO
Girls like boys!! And not supporting women? Misogynistic!
>>112141908>anycolor announces they are eating a massive loss on unsold merch>suddenly EN is having merch issuesHmmmm
https://twitter.com/EliraPendora/status/2058880032987365644
>>112142024Things that happened in your head don't count, sorry!
Hey guys, remember Alban's lesbian outfit?
https://x.com/i/status/2058495619166310665
>>112142099Kill yourself.
>>112141522Exactly this. It's the same shit with Holostars in HoloEN, but with the genders reversed. The majority of people being aggressive about this shit are fans of the males who pretend to have a female oshi they never actually watch.
>no guys it wasn't my revolting sex predator larpers causing all the problems it was just that they were TOO sexy and those whores couldn't stay away>and you're an incel for suggesting otherwise
>>112142124>when you see Soma's dick
>>112142097We literally had multple "girls only!" collabs invaded by a male. Imagine if that happened the other way around
>>112142069It's true. Despite everything the girls still have a majority male audience, they're just quieter. When this thread liveposts the girls it's all men. They actively watch collabs where their girls are surrounded by a group of men. So yes, males enjoy that type of content.
Happy Birthday Alban!5 year old shota maid catboy ToT
>>112142173The girls don't have any audience at all retard, you chased them off!
>>112142142Shut up, they are multiple en girls only fans and they're pretty sure holding grudges against nijien male fans. The one who went cricket about the boys or cried "favoritism" about the boys achievement and blaming the fans for the lack of support for nijien girls.
why didn't the main niji world account retweet that merch announcement anyway
>>112142193esl-kun...
>>112142160>Imagine if [thing that has already happened multiple times]Why would I imagine something that has already happened? This argument doesn't work. You deserve having guys invade your cute girls stream if we can't have a single guys collab without the females being brought up or them attentionwhoring in chat if they haven't been mentioned for five fucking minutes..
>>112142160When the last time the girls having girls collab only? Mind you none of them cares about the girls only schtick
>>112142173No, males enjoy this type of contenthttps://files.catbox.moe/iikeia.mp4
>>112141522>>112141616>>112141666>>112142142>saying that they just want to support their male oshihow horrible!!1!!!1>showing supports for the female livers even though they don’t oshi themhow performative!!1!!!!1
>>112142227when the last time you having english education?
>>112142193Holy shit learn to read, nigga
>>112142199What's the merch?
>>112142237this better be gay femboy porn
>>112142237What the fuck is the teletubbies shit?
Wait, people are complaining about not having merch? When the merch looks like THIS?
>>1121421825 times 6
I don't get why you fags can't just go watch the millions of hentai, harem, and yuri anime out there instead of complaining about "Da gorlz don't get supportz!11!!". You have plenty of other female media to watch already.
>>112142238When YOU want to support just your female oshi, that's controlling, misogynistic, and frankly violent. When I want to support only the males, that's just consumer preference.
where are these ESL shitposters coming from?
lol Alban...mixed up the release by 12 hours.
I only care about my oshi
>>112142285the exact same thing can be said in reverse
>>112142308Same
Are they really samefagging arguments to try to make femanons look bad with retarded "clap backs" against the unicorn falseflagging?
>>112142285because you spent years saying that introducing males and and collabing with them all the time would be good for their channels you silly bint
>>112142139No
>>112142297>>112141529
>>112142308i typed this post
i really hope en anni merch doesn’t go away not to mention that merch company doesn’t even ship outside of jp so why is it becoming more difficult for overseas en fans to get merch lmao
>>112142308i posted this
https://youtu.be/JyZ0oz2rd94Rikashii playing an old ass naruto game
>>112142321Go back to the numbers thread, we speak and comprehend English here.
>>112142297I think all the shitposters are here. Fatty, Runella, Ninianon, that one guy who likes to impersonate Fatty…
>>112142341Stop stealing someone's tweet
>>112142318Glad you finally figured it out anon. Better late than never as they say.
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>>112142326That cesspit of a general is always at the scene of the crime. This thread should be operating like /MANS/ did when those numberfags tried to get Shinri fired after his drunk stream
>>112142326holy shit that post even has the same grammar mistakes as the esl posts itt
>>112142315Name 10 cute boys doing cute things anime. You can't. But anyone can easily name 10 cgdct anime. This "the same is true for the opposite gender" argument doesn't work here.
>>112142387First of all, fuck Shinri.Second, this is baby shit compared to 2023-24
>>112142256Totes bags are cool. If I get to pick a design I would just zoom in on a pape face and print that on the side.
I don't read these complaints at all because they feel like shitposts. Maybe some are genuine, but most of them are just fatty posting, so I don't bother trying to filter them anymore
>>112142399It’s just Runella making all these posts.
>>112142362>one guy who likes to impersonate Fatty>one guy
>>112142403any male-majority cast shounen anime can be cbdct if you believe
>>112142255It's what men watchhttps://www.twitch.tv/videos/2776738981?t=2h08m40s
We have cbdct anime. It's called King of Prism
>>112142443This has the EXACT same energy as saying Hulk, Goku, and He-Man are fanservice for women just because they're shirtless.
>>112142377I don't get the woman larp though. Does the shitposter secretly want to be a woman or what?
>Wait, it was all fatty and numberfags raiding and pretending to be women?
>>112142484they certainly aren't making those Marvel movies for men...
While everyone is having gender wars, I'm in Rayon's class and giving him sloppy under his desk
>>112142426everyone you don't like is not fatty
>>112142491You now remember how real the incel to tranny pipeline is.
>>112142484They in fact are
>>112142484Nobody knows what women want, and nobody cares. Women fuck any man with money, that's all you need.
>>112142527Don't get me wrong I'm not one of the schizos who thinks every anon is fatty, but there's certainly more than one anon who has tried to impersonate him or use the same shitposting tactics for easy (You)s.
>>112142491numberfags are trannies. they love to larp as women itt.
>>112142539I gotta be honest. At this point, all the shitposting is starting to blur together and I really can’t tell if this is supposed to be Fatty or an insult towards Fatty.
>112142540>112142547This is how you know the numberfags are raiding us because they can't help but out themselves with their retarded inceljeet logic. inb4 they prove my point by directly or indirectly replying.
>>112142426Yeah at this point it's obvious there's multiple of them. Milgur, that one that keeps posting cringe videos while avatarposting, that one anon who admitted to impersonating fatty because he has a vendetta against the thread I'm sure there are more I'm missing.
>>112142598???I mean fatty is included in this but it was mostly directed at the numbertroon raiders lol
This is the most active thread we've had in a while.
I miss black kyomie...I miss yuqtie...I miss bud...
>>112142672because we're being raided
>>112142672>this anon forgot how fast this thread was during nijifes
>>112142672Noctyx just has that effect
>>112142689It’s just Fatty and his impersonators. The only one you can say is raiding is just Runella.
>>112142727Who the fuck is runella I can't keep up with these new schizos
This bores me, post lewds instead.
> alban almost reached all his debut goals
>>112142763When people say /#/ is raiding, it’s usually just him
>>112142764Have a cute.
picked this up at a yard sale
>>112142764
>>112142423he needs to spend his time learning english instead of shitposting itt. his posts are full of basic grammar mistakes.
are any of this thread's cute femanons going to offkai this year? i need a date for the maid cafe so i dont look like a loser. you will be compensated for your time.
>>112142829That’s how you know it’s him. He accidentally revealed his twitter once, he’s indog
https://poal.me/rm1plb
>>112142818no way… this is super rare
This looks like the meme
https://x.com/i/status/2058824420135977325 Neet gamer new outfit tomorrow
There's no genuine posts itt. Yes, including this one, I'm a shitposter too, btw Petra fucking sucks
I get it with denauth but Lazulight tho? No more love for fish and sky dragon?
>>112142971sucks my cock, yeah
>>112142971I'm genuinely horny for Feesh.
Look at my sporty baby
>>112142845this youhttps://x.com/nexiwatching/status/2058687590581371283
>>112143110I think I'm more attractive than him but also fatter but otherwise accurate.
>>112142238It's fine to support the females as a fan of the males obviously. But aggressively attempting to shame, pressure and force other fans into doing the same is not fine. Suggesting people might want to try your female oshi out is fine. Attacking and blaming them when your female oshi doesn't get something is not. It's annoying and creates bad optics for legitimate fans of the female members.
>>112143041
I wonder if fans would be more mad when they release krisis anniversary merchs
Ngl I don't care what they do for merch if it's cyberagent handling it
>>112141285Kurara rabu
That was fasthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyqAsK-qAA4JP subs for the Mario Kart
>>112143773en could never
>>112143670ngl i dont care that much about merch in general, as long as my oshi streams and there is some way to support her, i am happy, anything else is just nice to haves on top for me, having nice merch to buy would be nice but ultimately what i care about is having streams to enjoy and the ability to support the content i enjoy so it keeps being made, trinkets to consume arent that important to me
>>112143773I always find it fun and cute to read the JP fans comments on clips like this. Always talking about how much they love EN but cant understand everything so are super grateful for the translation.
>>112143773https://youtu.be/PyqAsK-qAA4?t=394Alban clearly says "Bread cums" when talking about Sonny.
CHAOS AUDITIONS CLOSED HOW LONG DO WE HAVE TO WAIT
https://x.com/alban_knox/about>account basedsince when did he move?
>>112144059Forever. There are no more waves
>>112143041>>112143199Pronebone sex with this ABG
>>112144074forever ago he for some reason made a big ass deal about people asking if he had even tho he was one of the first people to talk about wanting to move to japan.
>>112144074you don't need to move, if you are logging in from an IP in a different region than usual for a number of weeks it will just automatically update
>>112144074Curiously, Enna's is still based in Canada even though she said on stream that she movedhttps://x.com/EnnaAlouette/about
>>112144290Probably takes some time to change since otherwise everybody's would change if they just tweeted while on vacation
>>112144074so many en members moved to japan already...
>>112142565To be fair it's kinda hard to tell when someone is actually impersonating fatty and when it's just easily triggered retards who call every second poster fatty
>>112142926>mariring pose with a double peace sign
>will appear somewhere elsewonder what that is
>>112142857>only 4 people posting
>>112144457Knowing Mariring it will probably be one of the planned EN studio karaoke sessions.
>>112144137nyooooo dont say
>>112144457Ren also has something scheduled on Sunday labeled '?????'
>>112144655WHOLE ILUNA GRADUATION AHHH
>>112143773Oh cool I found this toohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MpzS3w9kewA nice JP subtitled compilation of EN members talking about their impressions of the Nijifes live concerts and the EN members performing in them.
>>112144711Man you can really tell from her expression Mariring HATES Meroco (and Elira) for having disgusting fat chests and feels superior in her flatness.
i hope we're not getting anniversary merch because something big is coming like nendos. i'd love a ewiwa nendo
>>112144457Jp 3d events or karaoke
>>1121449081/6th scale version of picrel.
>>112143773>>112144711JP fans of vtubers in general are so wholesome not counting the biggest schizos. It's a shame the Western sphere's the way it is.
yippee!https://x.com/FinanaRyugu/status/2058965425799762304 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do_eCbgynEA
>>112145345where's pomu?
>>112145222How did people pretending to be anime attract the human garbage the western side did.There's vtuber "fans" that unironically only care about drama.
>>112145352Piss planet.
>>112145222JP EN fans are wholesome because to be a fan of EN in the first place you have to be open-minded to other cultures and ways of thinking. Same way early western vtuber fandom was wholesome compared to the JP side because it was still a niche hobby and HoloMyth's debut hadn't yet attracted throngs of EOP tourists.
>>112145352Who?
>>112145352I should make a bot to reply to every single question mentioning "Pomu" with "Who?"
>>112145345Let's goo the only good lazus
Poopmu
>>112145310Who is that Lize picked? She is the only one I don't get?Nozomi - AlbanLize - not sure who that isMito - Itsuki SakyoAnge - Nagisa TroutFuren - YashiroPetra - AlbanNari - MelocoMeloco - Vox
I want to give Aia a cumshot
>>112145345Did she fix her phone?
>>112145603Yes
>>112145592Nari is too pure and innocent to choose an actual coolest male liver.
>>112145592picrel
>>112145683Nice thanks. You are right.
>Neither Elira nor Finana seem to care about the 5th anni>Denauth is the most unpopular branch in EN's historyThis is why you're not getting merch, nobody's going to buy it.Go where the money is and clearly there's no money with those groups.
Heroes jp really are in another level of popularity, the biore collab turnout is insane
Millie getting gangraped:https://x.com/Dhydratedpucci/status/2050618432648090024
>>112145310just imagine the schizo meltdown if all the EN girls all sat around discussing which male livers they thought were the most ichiban kakkoii in English for their collab for their all girls concert, just another example of how those "JP would never" posters have no idea what they're talking about
>>112145882Petra and Meloco are EN.
I wonder if they will use the Nijiquiz set for Elira's quiz in 3D.
What questions did anons submit for Elira's quiz segment?
>>112145764there are fans who go to 6+ different stores just to get their oshis, and yet anycolor has made a dumb move locking krisis in cyberslop prison
>>112146028It's been forever and a day since the last full Heroes collab...
>>112144074The change happens automatically, so it's possible this is just the result of him being in Japan for an extended period for Concerto practice.
>>112145981Can you bounce a quarter off your titty? How many times?
>>112145957I'd be surprised if management built out a whole new quiz set just for one stream for Lazulight's anniversary. Maybe they will use he NijiQuiz set but replace the graphics with NijiEN related stuff rather than NijiQuiz.
>>112146028Eh, there is a lot of demand for the JP side, but not that much for Krisis
https://x.com/i/trending/2058903184274227441Trending
>>112146169Petra always was trying to sneak into Lazulight, also trending is meaningless nowadays. It's hyper specific to your interests now so has nowhere near as much meaning as when something had to have major traction on the platform scale to get picked up
>>112146199I wouldnt mind it really if they smooshed Lazulight and Obsydia together and presented them as one unit going forward I think. Petra wouldn't be a loner anymore and 3 people means you can actually have group collabs as a wave rather than one on ones.
https://x.com/Hiyotarochan/status/2058567666433155447
>>112146147there are tons of them buying krisis ones what
>>112146270They are usually the leftovers
>>112146244The last Petra and Finana collab was at least two years ago...
>>112146147even zali is doing well. what are you talking about
>>112146244I really don't know why there hasn't been a unit made with the three of them by now other than 2/3 of them being so busy with other matters
Are there any takaradachis left here?
>>112146385Won't post the tweets, but if you know you know
>>112146352this person literally went to 6 different stores specifically for wilson >>112146028
>>112146244Petra is closer to Ethyria than Lazulight.
>>112146169do EN fans know that ani merch isn't the norm for the nips side? even mito and kuzuha don't get ani merch.
>>112146264>yfw the fart came with a prize
>>112146414if you're talking about the roudachi post, that store only had 1 sheet of the badges with all but krisis already gone before the sell time. you can't tell if someone is doing well or not just by not selling 1 badge. you can see other examples of jp fans buying the krisis ones
>>112146446Not even diehard pentomos like this lineup though
>>112146147>>112142067
>>112146501it's ok reimu already graduated
>>112146147
Sex with stupid cute Daichi
>>112146450If you do something consistently for 4 years, then suddenly stop in the 5th year with no explanation, people are going to question things.
>>112146414>oh no, everyone but usami is doing poorlysee how stupid you sound? there are a lot of stores that only have 1-2 sheets of the badges
this is nice
>>112146501Zuttomo was a mistake.
>>112144416Need to pronebone plap this bratty white hag with my BLC
>>112146470so the answer was to never do in the first place.
>>112145044>>112145345Hear me outWiwa sexo
>>112146616True, Ars is so underrated.
>>112146614It's dead and buried now. Management should form an official group with Nari, Petra, and Meloco as an apology for Zuttomo's existence.
>>112146645the collab was poorly managed with every store having different rules and stock amount, not to mention scalpers
>>112145354Because vshojo had ties to the DNC and then the GOP astroturfed their own drama channels and support for phase to destabilize and destroy the japanese corpos. Asmonfag is on their payroll as a zionist shill for the past 3 years and he owns mythic which has many magacuck drama channels under their umbrella.The short answer is americans are to blame.
>>112146690my post wasn''t meant for you, but oh welp.
Who do you think is in the chaos wave?
>>112146605That's very neat desu
>>112145354blame pippa
>>112146733Jack Garland so he can defeat them from within
i said it before and i'll say it again, they need to keep the heroes going but with villains
>>112145354I wish GTAV and Miko never existed...
>>112146646Never a truer word was spoken.
>>112146761If they ever had villains in mind, they’d have done so years ago. Playing villain isn’t as easy as you might imagine especially with the popular mechatu-a.
>>112146733At least one of them better make a reference to picrel. Or at least Vox needs to or he's a fake film snob.
>>112146768>and Miko never existed...now lets not get carried away we can negotiate something
>>112146761I think it's a good time to introduce a wave like that now that there's been a good distance from the heroes debut. Not to mention other livers of the fantasy sort can do things with a villain wave too.
>>112146605Thats actually a really cool idea. I would want to if I was into heroes.
>>112146795Okay, she can stay but Coco has to go.
>>112146605Holy shit
>>112146827Coco going was half the reason so many /pol/tards latched onto this hobby in the first place.
>>112145354It started with Pippa courting that audience.
>>112146169The AI summary is so fucking funny who the fuck is mentioning Yugo enough for them to include him in the summary?
>>112146864In actuality, I think the current state of en vtubing fandom would've been the endgame eventually.
>>112146916It's picking up transmissions from a parallel universe
>>112146785they don't have to be in character all the time though, they just need to find people good enough to butt heads with heroes... "chaos" people seem perfect for it>>112146798just to add some flavor and lore, they keep fighting these wisps/ghosts things, build on that
>>112146768nijishit always seething at Miko because Miko's GTA V is the catalyst that made hololive and vtubing as popular as it is today, and it's also the reason hololive keeps mogging nijishit worldwide
>>112146916Dumbass grok probably just gathered info about Noctyx as far back as possible with no discernment for when two of the members stopped being mentioned amongst them
>>112146966AO3 is 2 blocks down buddy.
>>112146958You don’t get it at all. You just want a forced dynamic which will just fall apart and become stressful for both sides.
>>112146352That's expected. Of course JP heroes would have more fans in Japan. It sucks that Krisis, and EN in general now, feels like they're trying to focus on JP fans, but it is what it is.
>>112147201these people have forgotten how much shit fuuchan got for trying to play the villain to vox lol
i wish we can go back again in 2022-2023 and redo all the EN controversy and make things right.prevent The doxsiteprevent Discord GCleakprevent Vox and Reimu and later Ike relationship dramaprevent Mysta menheraprevent Lluca trying to get close to female liver so unicorn don't seething against himprevent Mysta joking about genshin impact tribal name.prevent Kyo trying to get close to female liver so unicorn don't seething against him (Enna Kyo dynamic)prevent Millie shipping memesprevent Secretgcprevent Arlive cancellationprevent Yugo Zaion graduationprevent high profile liver graduation Nina,Mysta.
>>112146966lmao holofags needed to copy nijiGTA to get any traction
>>112147409shut the fuck up runella
>>112147409>Nina>high profilelol lmao
>>112147421He's talking about the time Miko said NIGGA in like 2019, not NijiGTA.Hololive DID copy NijiGTA, and it was a colossal failure because it was predictably male free.>>112147409Nothing you mentioned caused any major issues, it the Selen shit, nothing more.
>>112147409All of those are minor dramas only schizos care about, they just shouldn't have hired snakes like selen, pomu and nina.
The only really big thing that could and should be fixed was the AR live delay, or rather the cause of it which was the utter incompetence of management. They should have actually planned the logistics before announcing such a big event. Looking back on it now and it's still so embarrassing that they tried to play it off as being careful about covid
Anyone else took their meds today? Just me?
>>112147729And then the Selen shit happens just before they plan to announce it, leading them to push it back even more and butcher it on the editing floor which wound up cutting out most of the girls side.Just a cursed event all around.
The Selen shit caused all the problems because it breached the normie sphere, rather than have the usual schizos and dramafags yelling at us, you had them+20k other retards that don't know anything about vtubing but GOSH DARN LE EVIL BLACK COMPANY also yelling at us, so that put pressure on the most casual fans, random clippers straight up deleting their channels among many other things.Some stuff Cover has done has been far worse, hell straight up telling the stars they're not ecomically viable and throwing them to the retard corner pales in compasion to Riku saying the Selen shit wouldn't hurt their profits, but Asmongold didn't talk about that so nobody gives a shit.That's it, that's the entire reason it all went to shit, I imagine other companies like Phase and Shojo where fanning the flames, plus we clearly had moles like Nina and Mysta leaking shit, but without actual proof these are just rrats. Either way, what does it matter? Its been 2 years, damage has been, everyone has mostly moved on other than the most ardent haters. If you're still around then just focus on your oshi. No I won't post my oshi, takes this random GIF instead.
>>112147899It's convenient to say that it was all outside normie tourists who did the harassing, but there was clearly a large portion of the fanbase who sided with Selen after being conditioned by Pomu that management's always wrong. The Selen shit was like an episode of mass hysteria, people I had previously respected suddenly started spouting 4chan rrats with zero self-awareness or knowledge that shit came from /here/.
>>112147899Maybe examine why your company acts like a black company and fix that, before criticizing others sis
>>112148057Holofags are truly incapable of self reflection.
>>112148046>The Selen shit was like an episode of mass hysteria, people I had previously respected suddenly started spouting 4chan rrats with zero self-awareness or knowledge that shit came from /here/.That's just confirmation bias.They already suspected something about Niji, the Selen shit just confirmed it for them, so clearly all the other shit, even the most insane rrats where obviously true.Still crazy how someone that had a patreon selling Holo doxx is now a "respected" member of the vtubing community and all he does is post poorly research videos attacking EN livers.
>>112148138I'm gonna jerk off to your tears now
>>112147899Every time I see Mori and others do her anti management and corpo shit I think about how literally only 1 single person was so weakwilled and retarded and given so many chances that she decided to cut for clout. It takes a really special type of evil to be such a person.
>>112147899>Smacking giant monster lady tittiesI'm interested in your random gif.
>>112148228https://store.steampowered.com/app/428550/Momodora_Reverie_Under_The_Moonlight/
>>112148224Sis, this is pathetic
>>112148224Selen is chinese, its in their blood.Utterly soulless bug people. What does she care who she hurt? She's gotta get her bag.
>>112148290Oh wow, thanks anon.
>>112148318Id recognize those tits ANYWHERE.
>>112148046This
>>112148290Feesh should play this game instead of Hundred Line or some 80-hour long RPG.
>>112148311The company deserves to be "hurt" if they're doing bad stuff. >you can't call out Pepsico dumping oil in the rivers, because Pepsico's stock price will decline and people will be firedYour logic
>>112148385You might have a point if the selen shit had actually hurt the company.It didn't. Its more profitable than ever, the only thing you hurt was the livers, but then again that's all your kind ever wanted to hurt, the company is a monolith you can't touch, so you went after the only targets you had available.
>>112148439>Its more profitable than everThat has more to do with japanese being extremely obedient people who worship corporations like their new fuedal lords.
>>112148385Selen's termination was justified, the actual bad stuff Anycolor has done is largely irrelevant to the controversy she caused.
>>112148491>Selen's termination was justifiedNo it wasn't lmao
>what? no merch? cyberslop? favoritism? >what are you talking about anon? its 2021 and pomu minecraft kino in nijiworld server is starting soon, she's building something and the other en girls might join too!
>>112148585>minecraft>kinolol, lmao
>>112148439The JP side is more profitable than ever, you mean. The vast majority of JP fans don't care how the EN livers are treated.
>>112148585Pomu fucking sucked
>>112148532>Had been given multiple chances>Instead of just waiting to clear perms she told people to upload it(huge no-no for jp companies)Yes it was justified.>>112148611No shit, they are primarly a japanese company.That's my point, antis hurt nobody but the livers despite claiming they just wanted to hurt the corporation.
>>112148532Her termination was indeed justified, but the black screen stream was one of the most fucking retarded ideas anyone has ever conceived in their brain. Management should have just put the info presented into the termination notice itself, and not trot out 3 livers to sacrifice their careers in front of a firing squad.
>>112148705I mean Dookie has spent like 2 weeks going on how she REALLY didnt wanna reveal all the bad secret info but she had to.The main problem was the japs thinking westerners would be receptive to them defending themselves, they don't realize how emotion brain westerners are, they just saw it as further attacks on the poor widdle suicide victim.It did shut her up though, so cleary it did something.
>>112148633>>Instead of just waiting to clear perms shePomu's cover was pulled down in a similar way, right before release. Because management are hyper lazy and don't check the covers until the last minute, which creates inconvenient situations. > told people to uploadIt was hers. She paid for it with her own money. The company pretended they had some sort of claim over it, but that's just a lie.
>>112148705>believing the "management put them up to it" rratNot even Ike implied that they were forced to do it, management should have shut that shit down though. Hindsight's 20/20 though, Millie was getting harassed pretty hardcore at the time and Elira couldn't let that stand.
>>112148633It's still so wild that those weirdos created an entire subreddit dedicated solely to gossip about the nijien livers and circlejerk about how much they hate them like it was a totally normal thing to do
>>112148735Again, management should have just put that info out themselves on twitter, not painting targets on 3 livers backs.
>>112148745Don't forget, they used to do it in the actual Nijisanji sub-reddit, till someone noticed and banned them all and basically locked it down.
>>112148742The fact that they presented management DMs means that management knew & approved of it, so the fault still lies on management.
I can't stop gooning to goob
>>112148824They probably (correctly) believed they had no credibility with the community, any explanation from official avenues would be ignored and antis would continue going on as they were. And I don't think anyone was anticipating that practically the entire branch siding against Selen wouldn't put things to rest, especially given how effective XSoleil were in discrediting Zaion.
>>112148740>The company pretended they had some sort of claim over it, but that's just a lie.They own the character ip. If she didn't want to get fucked she should have uploaded it on a different channel with no niji associated art.
>>112149029The fact that people draw art of graduated livers but always leave Zaion out never fails to make me laugh.She really had 0 impact.
>>112148740idk what you are talking about but the company owns any content put out under the liver name/ any content uploaded to their channel they setup for the vtuber to work for them on, thats standard across Japanese vtuber companies, it's not even particularly controversial in creative industries more widely, lots of jobs in creative fields are setup so that anything created by employees while under the companies employment belongs to the company
>>112149034>They own the character ip.Have you heard of "fair use"? You can make covers and MV's and stuff with characters. The issue is just about profiting off it. But if she's telling people to reuload for free, it's not an issue.By the way, youtube's stance on copyright is way, way in excess of the law. Youtube is extra agressive with their policies to avoid any lawsuits. But in reality the actual law of the land is much more permissive than that. Youtube is overstepping.
>>112149179Japan does not have any "Fair Use" laws/protections.
>>112149179>Fair use>Japan Let's add international copyright law to the list of things you don't understand, fatass.
>>112149129>any content put out under the liver nameThey don't own the MV she comissioned herself. Other people can reupload it, no problem.>any content uploaded to their channel they setup for the vtuber to work for them onBut she told other people to reupload it. I mean it belongs to her, she can do what she wants with it.>anything created by employees while under the companies employment belongs to the companyThey aren't employees, they are "independent contractors". This is like suggesting you own the painting your plumber made in his garage on his free time.
>>112149228Youtube is an american companyJapan is a tiny irrelevant country under US domination. Japanese are uncivilized in a lot of ways.
do you guys think fatty realizes just how insanely chinese selen is
>>112146446Reimu is such a piece of shit. Only using Petra for her own advantage but she's always been a shitty "friend" to her
It's Monday
>>112146446They should just lump all the girls together after Millie leaves. Nobody really remembers the individual 'waves' anymore.
>>112149439Is it really?
I love looking at vaginas so much
>>112149458In some parts of the world it is...
>>112149129https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8FdT92tU8QThis person doesn't own Dragonball. Nor does he own Kermit the frog. Yet he makes these animations.
>>112149524Ver why are you /here/?
>>112149445>Nobody really remembers the individual 'waves' anymorethey just released noctyx merch though, and btb has it's own active account and channel though, and krisis included in heroes biore collab though, and probably another luxiem merch released soon thoughyeah they should just lump all the girls in the branch together, and make a subunit with doppio, ren, ver, and claude
>>112149608how is this relevant
I wonder if anyone actually watched the black stream or just freaked out at it existing. Oh no how dare they list a bunch of shit the bipolar menhera did. You are literally giving her a gun to shoot herself with.
I'm still of the idea that the black stream was 100% the livers initiative, and they were completely justified
>>112149678>No manager wanted to deal with her>Handled her own merch after awhile>All those breakdowns after losing in some shit ass Rivals tourney>Trying to start shit with XQC of all peopleTurns out the problem was her all along.
>>112149439it's Monday and they should have sent out the audition mails already
>>112149660Because that's the standard in the west. You're arguing Selen doesn't own the cover because it has some Nijisanji characters. I agree if she's profiting off it. But she's not, it's just a fan animation at that point.
>>112149741You do realize the company still owns the characters in those animations and could easily get them removed right?Nintendo does it all the time.MOST companies are fine with fan stuff, either way Selen broke the rules and paid the price.
>>112149776Nintendo is exploiting youtube's overreach of the law. If youtube wasn't overstepping Nintendo would have no claims
>>112149269>They don't own the MV she comissioned herself. Yeah they do. Anything created for that character while working under Anycolor belongs to them. The fact that they didn't bother going after people reuploaing it doesn't change that. There are plenty of reuploads of content belonging to Anycolor they on't take down.
>>112149799And yet they could if they wanted to.
>>112149799>while working under Anycolor belongs to themIndependent contractor jackass. You want to have your cake and eat it too. You want to not pay health benefits and workers comp, and all the other benefits an employee gets. While also having total ownership of everything they produce, and non-competes, and an NDA...etc. That's just an abuse of the law. It wouldn't stand up to legal scrutiny.
>>112149895>That's just an abuse of the law. It wouldn't stand up to legal scrutiny.It can and does and has multiple times.
>>112149936No it hasn't. This is an area which hasn't been properly challenged. I assure you if the public realized what was going on, even if it was legal it would soon be made illegal.
Really no understanding of how the fair use doctrine works. Fair use does not give everyone blanket permission to use another's IP freely. Fair use is a LEGAL DEFENSE to be used in a court of law to determine whether one's usage of another's IP is considered copyright infringement. There is a very narrow scope in which fair use applies, including but not limited to commentary, criticism, research, parody, etc.
>>112149895I don't "want" anything. I am just explaining to you the facts of the situation. It doesn't matter who paid for the content its irrelevant. If the fact that a member paid money towards making some piece of content meant they owned it then Anycolor wouldn't own any of the content on the channels but they do. The livers buy the equipment, the games etc its all them spending money. And the output they create belongs to Anycolor while they are working under them.
>>112150027>the output they create belongs to AnycolorDoes it? Or is anycolor more like a management agency which assists them in producing the content? You assert this without legal backing. I would naturally assume if anycolor owns everything, then they would be "employees" and not "independent contractors".
>>112150066It doesn't make any difference to this if the people involved are independent contractors or employees. You can literally just google work for hire and find this shit out. As long as Anycolor specify in the contract that they hold the copyright to any creative work then its theirs as far as US law is concerned.
Doesn't it work similarly to how franchises work in the US? Basically paying a cut of your income to use a big corpo's name and get the recognition.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgVF2H0fFx0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgVF2H0fFx0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgVF2H0fFx0I think Ittetsu should collab with Sonny
>>112150090>As long as Anycolor specify in the contract that they hold the copyright to any creative work then its theirs as far as US law is concernedLol no that's not how it works. If a contract runs afoul of policies then it's null and void. I can't just create a contract saying "you're a slave now" for example.What Anycolor is doing is extremely dubious, especially the twisty situation. Enforcing a noncompete on her so she makes no money for 10 months, not even paying her a minimum wage, after encouraging her to go into debt. This is extremely legally dubious and I'm sure a jury would not like it.Also "independent contractor" is like a plumber, or electrician. Imagine telling a plumber "you can only work for me for the next 2 years, btw I'm not letting you work or paying you anything so starve".Also assuming ownership of things thr talents produced themselves with their own money is very dubious. I would say in this situation the livers are more like the "owners" and the company is more like a managing agency helping them produce it.
Felllas I believe he's just trolling at this point.Stop talking to it.
>>112150249You are just talking about completely unrelated nonsense now. If you are an independent contractor then under US law all the company needs is for you to sign an agreement as part of your contract that the copyright belongs to them. It's called work for hire and its well established law. A similar doctrine exists in Canada and the UK too.
Cleaned half my apartment today. Feels good not living in an awful mess.
Anyone watching any streams?
>>112150283Inventing things now? Well the public doesn't like it. The public can do anything they want. If the public decides they don't like "private property" anymore, they can do away with it. If the public doesn't like what the corporation is doing, then it doesn't matter if you claim it's legal. I say it's not legal. I say that a good lawyer would tear this apart.
>>112150403There are no streams on at the moment. Besides one JP one.
>>112150403Nobody's live right now.
is the schizo a commie now?
>>112150427I say you are retarded.
>>112150278no fucking shit retard do you think the morons replying to this guy for 3 years are suddenly going to catch on to what "trolling" is
>>112150452Buddy when Enron collapsed they rewrote the book on corporate oversight. If the corporation is doing obviously reprehensible shit, and the public has a negative reaction, then that is enough for it to be illegal. I assure you that if this was brought under scrutiny and a court examined how this "independent contractor" thing is being abused, then it would fall.
>>112150440200 viewers on each stream?
*drops another leply bait*
>>112150440>2nd denauth anniversary>Performative group collab for the least united group, assuming Ryoma doesn't graduate soonLiterally what is the point
>>112150566Legitimately who raped you?
>>112150440sorry but the real money maker is streaming around the same timehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87N8RQ1MeuQ
>>112150636Riku
When you go back and watch Selen 's off-collab with all the girls, you could interpret it as Stacy's teasing the chubby, bashful outcast of the group to be more sexy. I wonder if she considered that bullying.
>>112150440lmaoklara had like 4 NijiSSS collabs and zero collabs with this shitter since 1st anniversary
When you see someone with a patreon with hundreds of members for generating AI vtuber porn it really makes you wonder.
I just filtered out long posts, and pretty much 2/3 of this thread is gone.
Lol you know what I should do? I should hire some lawyers to talk to twistyz and bring a claim. Because Twisty faced workplace harassment, descrimination, unpaid leave, maligning of character, and all manner of things from Nijisanji. I think she has a million dollar lawsuit on her hands
>>112150834She's not gonna fuck you, bro.
>>112150834Yeah, sure. Go for it. I would love to see what happens.
>>112150834This but Mel.
>>112150898I think it would be very easy. I know women frequently sue for sexual harassment and get 8 figure sums.
>>1121508233 fatties? No wonder this thread is shit
>>112150933Great, so do it.
>>1121509338 figures is what the lawsuit would cost since it would be someone in the US versus Japan, a lawyer that can bridge the language gap alone is like 1k per hour.But go ahead, finance it.
Our neighbor has big drama againThis is like their second drama within a weekhttps://x.com/i/status/2058886135821263107
>>112150524It's the same way the comic books industry has worked for decades. Marvel hires the artists and writers as work for hire independent contractors with no benefits or anything like that. They retain the copyright over the characters and stories those people create. It has been challenged in court plenty of times by now and Marvel sill owns their characters.
Does Alban not do totsus anymore for his birthday?
>>112150977Ok now let's see them ban one of those artists from working for 10 months, while paying them nothing.Let's see them attempt to claim ownership of something the artist produced with their own money in their own time.Nah they pay them per piece. Give us one comic book, we give you x amount of dollars....etc.
>>112150967Some idolmaster character made an appearance in Laplus's 3D Birthday live and the idolmaster fans are shitting on the company for allowing it to happen because being associated with Hololive and vtubers degrades their franchise.
>>112151028How come no one complained about Miku appearing in Ike's 3d?
>>112151028partly that, general vtuber antis yeah, but also people are mad because rinami debuted a new outfit and new song there, which made the fans feel like they're lower priority than cover or something dumb like that
>>112151047vocaloid fans not the same as idolmaster fans, because miku also appeared in holo 3d
>>112151021>Let's see them attempt to claim ownership of something the artist produced with their own money in their own time.That is exactly how that works.
>>112151028>>112151047>>112150967The appearance might have been fine and good if Rina hadn't sung a completely new song in this 3d, which made Idolmaster fans feel disrespected and angry
>>112151021>Nah they pay them per pieceDo you know how dead the comic book industry is today? How dead it's been for a decade and change? That would be such a massively worse deal for the creators that it's not even funny.
>>112151047Ike is a fan so it's fine
I do not care about what vtuber anti otakus have to say about anything in the vtubing sphere
>>112147421>>112147579lmao holoGTA was a massive success, and in fact nijigta copied it from Miko, who's been doing GTAO streams where she's doing rp with other holos/her fans before
>>112151143cope harder holofaggot
>>112150967>but doing it with a 3D model of a brand-new outfit,and a song that hasn't even been performed live yetI would be mad as well lol
>>112151143Why are numberpags scrolling through to reply to posts from 3 hours
>>112151047There probably were some haters somewhere but unless you go looking for them and specifically highlight them then nobody here is ever going to see it. There exists a vocal portion of Japanese otaku that have a problem with vtubers. Almost any time there is a promotional cross over with vtubers and some otaku IP you get some people complaining regardless of what company the vtubers come from.
>>112151047Miku is different because of the nature of her concept. Every instance of Miku is its own entity, every Miku is canon in its own regard.
>>112151047Who think miku is an idol for unicorn?
>>112151233>That time Hololive did something with Granblue, and when the Hologirls showed up on stage there was nothing but silenceThat was funny.
>>112151047Pomu should have gotten Snake as her 3D special guest
>>112151171It's utterly delusional to compare miko dicking around with viewers to a full fledged RP server. If Niji copied it from anywhere its going to be the VCR GTA RP servers people like Kanae and Kuzuha were back in 2022/23 and then the madtown stuff after that over the last couple of years.
>>112151167I can kind of get it, at least from the perspective of fans who would care this much, yeah. Imagine your oshi joins a show for like, I dunno, some flesh musician totally out of nowhere without any prior announcement. And they debut a new outfit and song there while acting all chummy with the musician.
I will join NijiEN and my 3D guest will be Seibah and I will be excaliblasted and you all will be jealous
siro will be in my 3d debut, and it'll basically be a rehash of ago watching myamya perform, but less creepyprobably
>>112151517im going do this but with my baby oshi
Boring ass thread full of nothing but noise and bait
>>112151558anon didn't reply to me about his ds3 weapon, cum load, karaoke night...it's fucking OVER
>>112151600I don't play souls games they're boring
I'll donate my 3D debut to Maria on the condition that I make a cameo appearance in the audience with penlights and a Mariring shirt
my 3D debut will just be me getting my favourite performers to sing and dance while i sit, fuck my fans bro this is MY 3D
>>112151621what about devil spire
I will invite 10 girls and zero dude to my 3d
i want to ride unicorns with ririmu in my 3D and sing a song together
my 3D will be the whole company circling around me praising me for the whole duration
>>112151879you already have a 3d wilson
>>112150967pretty bad desu, they need more external rhythm players for their rhythm game, but they are just pissing them off.
>>112151945the gacha is gonna flop bigly, they won't get project sekai players to stay too
>>112151161>>112151360nijishart coping hard, Miko doing GTA RP with other holos and her fans happened all before those vcrgta/nijigta/madtown shit and all of them copied Miko
>>112151981uh oh holofaggot meltysorry your company is losing billions of yen
>>112151981Does it matter that something happened if nobody ever gave a shit?
>>112151991not sorry if nijishits's king bots engine died and your organs are losing viewers lmao>>112152065lol Miko's GTA streams always had a lot of viewers, everyone gave a shit, that's also the reason why Miko became popular and still manages to keep mogging nijiorgans to this very day
>>112152175You lost holopaggyyour dogshit gacha is gonna lose too
>>112151879don’t leak your 3d debut here, kaelix
Elira will invite her enstars oshi on her 3d live.
Imagine comparing holostar situation with nijien
if i get a 3d i'll invite joe
>>112152484who's joe
