>"It is not OUR responsibility as 'fans' to support Stars!">"It is YOUR responsibility to throw money at them forever!"Even with Yagoo and the entire fucking company bending over backwards for years to shove Stars down everyone's throats, these delusional fucks still think its everyone else' fault this is happening. Blaming Yagoo - the king of saviourfags, himself. I knew beggars were bad, but holy fuck, this is complete divorce from reality.
>>112169238
Graduation is too light.They should've been executed years ago.
>>112169238anon, just don't engage with themjust think of them as 13 year olds with no money to actually support Holostars
what'll you get mad about when they're gone, op
>>112169238but you'll continue to post about it, and therefore, so will they.
>>112169238damn why are holostar fans like this?
Feed more seething twitter freaks this is splendid
>>112169832They did their best supporting them on twitter sadly it means nothing when it comes down to boardroom meetings with investors lol
>>112169238i wonder if keeping the character for themselves was even an option as an act of mercyprobably notbe sure to support the girls especially the ID ones because they're next on the chopping block
>>112170104ID literally got their own concert last year, which they sold out lmao
>>112170104You can feed IDs with 5k yen per month. I guess they rake in a lot more than they cost. Twoview McGuy hogging the studio however does cost money to keep alive.
>>112169238>thousands of likes on every twitter post>outrage engagement through the roof>not a single thing translated to a view or dollar gained for homoshitsevery time kek
>>112170328It doesn't matter what they get by with, if they don't get cover money they gta go
>>112169238Imagine if they all had bought even the cheapest Holostars merch from their oshi
>>112170328>Twoview McGuy hogging the studio however does cost money to keep alive.I hope their current situation makes the homos act as if they're constantly walking on eggshells until they either quit or get fired.
>>112170328>>112170588As long as they sell enough merch when they use the 3D Studio for their own stuff, it's fine.
>>112169238remember
>>112171908And the no overlap with Uproar 3D
>>112169238most of the stars should be ordered to pay reparations
>>112169238>Even with Yagoo and the entire fucking company bending over backwards for years to shove Stars down everyone's throatsSo a company "supporting" their employees get you this worked up?
I wonder why they're only shutting down the JP side. Do the ENs actually make some money?
>>112169338>They should've been executed years ago.
>>112172110The support the JPs are losing are stuff the ENs never had in the first place
sensing a lot of brown posters in this thread.
>>112169238Post moreI love watching these trannies dilate publicly
>>112170104>IDHoloID has been mogging both HoloStarsEN and NijiEN outside of events and they can pay for what they received from Cover. They will be fine
>>112172110Probably because of the contract timings. The JP side just expired while the EN side is getting holocausted later
>>112169238Cover could give Holostars their vtuber models since they are effectively closing them down but management is likely scared that Hololive fans of graduated talents would ask the same. They are far too greedy to consider that idea so they are forcing them to start over from scratch. Unicorns are dancing in celebration but Holostars fans have reason to be furious and 6 graduations in 2026 is much higher than what fans were expecting.
ID is next.You retards think the girls are safe but they aren't, everyone's a target now if they don't bring in money.
>>112172580Pick any ID girlShe makes more than all of Holostars combined
>>112172531Didn't they to that for hololive chyna?
Good, sooner they're gone the sooner the twitter fags fuck off and stop begging for once.
>>112172611vs JP maybe, but no way ruze isn't mogging at least one ID
>>112172630that branch got snapped cause of drama not money, china streaming money is actually insane
>>112172669I meant letting them keep the model and IP.
>>112170104>i wonder if keeping the character for themselves was even an option as an act of mercy No because it would implicitly encourage future graduations by letting chuubas think they might keep their character even if they bail.
>>112172645He isnt
>>112169832Because this was their chance to ruin the hobby and they lost it. They never supported the homos, never watched streams, never bought merch yet are as made as a die hard fan. It's quite curious.
>>112172580Good that IDs do bring in money, then>>112172645He isn't, not with Stars' merch sales level
>>112172580Honestly seethe like this just makes me cheer for the ID's, I wish their fanbase wasn't full of disgusting homobeggars obsessed with "self-inserting" (at least that's what I assume their reason for worshipping V-moids is)
>>112172580The ID branch costs next to nothing to maintain.
>>112172611Who even is the weakest ID member, Iofi?
>>112169238kek it reminds me of those kikes that seethe when you don't buy their absolute slop of a videogame
>>112172110yeah duh, compare the CCValso EN never had 3d lives for specific members
These pieces of shit "fans" should be GRATEFUL that Yagoo and the company decided to spend YEARS giving their faggots resources with no strings attached for so long, in any other company with results like the ones they had they would have all graduated and the whole branch terminated in 2 years top.All that studio time, money, ideas, travels and so much more that could and should have gone to the girls instead but no, they wanted the fucking fujobucks.And what's worse there's still a lot of them left!, this is but a small victory when there's so many of them left.
>>112174226>These pieces of shit "fans" should be GRATEFUL that Yagoo and the company decided to spend YEARS giving their faggots resources with no strings attached for so lonthey don't appreciate or care about that because they never watched any of that anyways.
I am the second IP in this thread
>>112174468This made me laugh really fucking hard, thanks anon lmaoAlso, I guess that makes me #3
>>112172531Giving away the IP is dangerous because that name is forever associated with the company, which is why they’ll never do it.>>112172743No, Chinese staff lied about it to pressure Cover into giving them the assets. They thought they would cave in because it’d be bad PR to not give it to them since the girls already announced they were going to get it (turns out no one gave a shit about CN).
>>112175464>Giving away the IP is dangerous because that name is forever associated with the companySony did it with their vtubers so larger corporations have done it but I do know there are various branding reasons why Cover doesn't want to lose control of their characters. Still a garbage situation to close the branch and force them to start over from scratch.
>>112175970no one cares about Sony's vtubers and also those vtubers are tiny for Sony's importance while Cover's IP rights are incredibly important for them on principle even if Tha Boys themselves are worthless
>>112172768I think it's hilarious that I've done more to support the homos by accidentally buying the pizza guy's merch (it was some kind of small pouch) maybe 6 years ago than 99.9% of these troons on shitter. I was experimenting with the cart and added it in without deleting it before checkout.
>>112171908I've been to 3 fes'. The stars space was always the emptiest part of the entire expo hall and while there was a 20min line to get to take pic with a standee of the girls the stars' standees was just a thoroughfare free walkway; people walked past them like they walked past the indoor plants.
>>112170104The shitters of ID, Iofi and Anya have better CCV than most of StarsJP.
>>112170104I never understood this argument because people actually WATCH ID compared the slop that is stars. Starsisters literally talk but don’t walk.
>>112176809Anya may not have as many subs, but even in her gen Ollie and Reine are usually fighting for last place. You can see this in the big group collabs. Anya also has a lot of support from JP viewers. In the times that Reine gets high views you always see one of three things, a buff game, her stream being raided or her being one of the only people live in the company. You can check some of these streams and see her struggle to get 500.
>>112169238And thus, new Nijisisters were born
>>112169238>TAKE RESPONSABILITY!
>>112176884Prolly cuz they consistently get outspent, likely due to the difference in currency
>>112169238I'm glad that arunrundesu guy is finally leaving for good
>>112169338This, but the EN stars.Trash like Dinowhat'shisface (the hate marketing homo) do NOT belong in the company
These idiots realize this is for the Japanese stars, right?
>>112176809I will never understand how Anya is the runt of the litter. I guess its cause I like her so I'm rooting for her but I figured she had more appeal than Iofi.
>>112170104ID actually brings in cash, unlike the homos. They aren't going anywhere.>t. a Zetamin
>>112176412I've listened to some of the co-op songs they've done. I won't sit here and pretend that they can't sing. But beyond that, like, its hard to get me to care enough to watch a guy play video games? And that's it really.
>>112170104>they're next on the chopping blockThis is what phasetroons actually believe
>>112177337Anya has hardly ever promoted her own stuff, she only ever did things like mention a cover as a stream is ending. Only recently has she talked about more merch for more opportunities or having a sub count. If she does a new song, she should be linking that at the start of every stream.But besides that, sub count isn't the only metric, she's not exactly a runt.
>>112176599I'm not surprised. The people who actually pay money for concert tickets are fans of the girls.
>>112169498I can't wait to see the future of this place.
>>112177288This, aside from 1-2 autists in JP it's pretty damn inoffensive. HomoEN has more than 1 Filipino in it, which is 1 too many.
>>112177572Fair enough. Appreciate the fresher perspective.
>>112177495>when you have 20 talents, 2 branches and still cant even beat holoIDYikes, maybe we should retire phase next. After all they were the biggest Holostars dickriders out there, especially Pippa and Tenma
>>112169238>>112170544Parrot you should stick to milking Saba's suffering and kurosanji
>>112176978Reine doesnt help herself by streaming yawn-inducing games / visual novels and having a "i stream whenever i feel like streaming something" schedule.Ollie is just a pariah, no one wants to watch her because all she wants in her streams is attention and she tries to get it in the most crass ways possible, like everything she says and does has to be clipbait but it doesnt work since her personality doesnt back it up.
>>112170104Well consider that they are a publicly traded company, I'm pretty sure they are legally unable to give the IP away for free, and would have to sell it at market price, which I doubt any of them can reasonably afford.
>>112173857merch-wise I think she is, though even she was talking about having a new merch sale record recently I'm pretty sure
>>112170104ID both brings in more money, and has a lower cost to manage, so they're fine.
>>112169238The ones blaming YAGOO are literally outing themselves as virtue signalers and tourists who don't know the history of what they're talking about kek
>>112169238Yagoo being as fake as Kiara, but at least he's a CEO and has to put out a statement, Kiara just being a whore.
>>112170104You have been pushing this angle for months now despite everyone giving you evidence to the contrary. You're more delusional than outfit schizo at this point
>>112169238Imagine being one of their few genuine fans and never seeing people support them outside of times like these.
>>112169238People stopped supporting them because the company told fans for the last 3 years that their money is not good here. For years they were basically told that even if you bought merch, they'd start selling worse standardized merch, if you sent superchats to fund 3D lives, they weren't going to get to use the studio anyway, if you bought tickets to paid events, they weren't going to get those events anyways. Now that they've demoralized their audience, people are blaming the audience like the company didn't do everything in their power to make their audience leave.
>>112170046I don't even think the investors has their word to say. It was probably decided internally seeing how they cut their spendings after their revenue has stopped increasing.
>>112178381StarsJP has existed for 7 years.They had customized merchs for 6 years and had access to the 3D studio up until 2 months ago. They got multiple group venue live, their own mini hologra, tons of sponsorships and yet their numbers reclines every year.Holostars has a demand issue.Being a 3 view that only sells dozens of merch sets a year might work for an indie, but they have an entire team of at least dozens of people and personal managers of which each had to be given a respectable salary.It took 7 years until Cover finally cuts their losses and restructured the group so that it can sustain itself. Though they probably read the writing on the wall since 2024 when it was clear the multiple venue live didn't contribute much of anything to their popularity and they started cutting back a lot of things.
>>112178747>but they have an entire team of at least dozens of people and personal managers of which each had to be given a respectable salary.>Axel couldn't get his modem looked at for multiple months
>>112178747>They had customized merchs for 6 years and had access to the 3D studio up until 2 months ago. They got multiple group venue live, their own mini hologra, tons of sponsorships and yet their numbers reclines every year.the events sold out and their merch would sell. cover only cut those things over the years to maximize profits to cover their other money sinks like holoearth. that's also why all this is happening NOW, because now they can't hide how much they've lost from holoearth and are in full panic mode trying to recoup their losses before shareholders start to worry too much. that's also the motivation behind mekpark, creating a scarce product version of the girls to force people to spend as much money as possible in a short amount of time without any real commitment or long term investment
Be careful anon, they're coming for your oshi!!Real scary stuff. Prayers to all of you
>>112177495Hey, NoriPro up there in third! I have no idea what the corpos above and below it are.
>>112179171Its holojp, Nijijp, holoen and vspo. But they break the scale because of how far ahead they are.
>>112178381If you have any of whatever you're smoking left over, I could use some. It's been a long day.
>twitter screencap threaddid a janny make this thread?
>>112179149First they came for the jews
>>112178841I can refute all your bullshit by posting their earnings reports but I know looking it up is a waste of my fucking time because you'll just move the goalpost.So I'll just point out that Aruran himself said they were deep in the red and that Risu's last merch sold more than every homos merch COMBINED and leave it at that.
>>112179149https://streamable.com/c7nubuIDs actually make more money than ever.
>>11217874NTA, but they really didn't get as much as you claim they did.Even when they were announced, they were kneecapped out of the gate with announcements saying how they'd be considered lesser and get worse support than the girls. They never tried anything different to actually change the branch into something profitable or shift any kind of direction.We saw them pick back up girls who performed even worse than holostars did during the same periods like Aki at her worst. They had no idea what to do with the boys, crippled them at every turn, and then occasionally slammed their heads against the wall expecting something to magically change. Cover failed them from the start>inb4 Look at this ad they got!!!!Yeah, compare that to the advertising of any one girl during the same period
>>112179149>Stop making fun of the boys!!! Also I watch the girls too*He doesn't watch either
>>112169238based, I hope every male vtuber dies of AIDS and ass cancer
>>112179569Nigga no amount of flushing money down the shitter would have gotten them viewers.Hololive viewers don't watch them. And there's not enough of you beggar faggots to financially support them.And deep down you faggots know this because if you didn't you'd be celebrating them escaping the "big evil corpo" and going indie. But you know full well they won't make enough as indies to do this without getting a real job on the side.
>>112169338this. based post
>>112179569no one was ever going to watch the faggots. all of the homos are talentless child molesters
>>112179687>Nigga no amount of flushing money down the shitter would have gotten them viewers.NijisanjiJP alone proves this wrong
>>112179738>but what about nijisanjiYou are one obsessed motherfucker
>>112169238Holostar fans will do literally anything except watch and support Holostars.
>>112179738Ah, I remember you from a few threads ago. Let me explain it to you again. The broader vtubing sphere draws generally from the same audience. In order to keep and retain dedicated individual audiences, corpos, indies, etc, will develop a certain personality or approach. This is called 'branding'. With me so far? Branding can be targeted or tweaked slightly depending on the goals of the corpo. As such, Hololive and Niji have different audiences from each other due to their branding. There is overlap yes, but generally Niji fans watch only Niji because of how Niji has presented itself to the overall vtuber audience, and vice versa with Cover. You even see this IN corpos between individual chubbas. Someone who likes Korone might not necessarily care for ERB's content due to those two having wildly different personalities, content priorities, or schedules - which is the individual streamers' own individual branding. Again - with me? Because I'm trying to get you to understand.What works for Niji does not work for Cover because the two have different audiences. The success of Niji males means nothing to the average Cover viewer because of the difference in the companies' approaches to selecting and recruiting clientele. Niji males and Stars operate, literally, on different stages. Ergo, will not always have the same outcome of equity.Now stop bringing up Niji. This has nothing to do with them.
>>112179738There's 2 "successful" male nijis and they're both botted beyond belief.Their real numbers are closer to Shiori's.
>>112179329NTA but I'd like to see the breakdown. I got the impression they left da boyz merch sales off the report or obfuscated it by combining it with something else so that the shareholders wouldn't question the investment
>>112179965I don't know who you think I am, but you skip over the obvious question. If the branding they had clearly wasn't working, why didn't they simply change the branding? They did it for girls like Aki and Towa. They did it for regloss.Cover had all the time and resources in the world, as well as countless local examples of it being done successfully that they could mimic.
>>112180104It came to him in a dream.
I don't hate male vtubers, I just wish all their female and faggot fans would be placed in internment camps.
>>112180375>"Instead of making a few small adjustments to our existing products, we're going to instead move the entire company in a new direction so we can possibly maybe hypothetically boost the sales of another product."Yeah, I wonder why they didn't do that.
>>112180375aki and towa changed their own branding and towa still has idol branding and never changed that much?? even aki's "branding" is the same she just started doing VCR shit.
>>112180470>shifting the content direction of one side branch somehow is the same as redirecting other branches with entirely different management and advertising structures Damn, nobody tell this anon about regloss
>>112180548it’s simple really, they lost hope for the boys a long time ago and was hoping they would quit on their own years ago
It's all performative bullshit.
>>112180595>puts barely any effort or resources into project >it underperforms>it's everyone else's fault but the people actually in chargeI'll never understand this logic.
>>112180442this, but I also hate male vtibers>>112180375most cover/hololive fans are cover/hololive fans because they activly hate male vtubers. just like how most phase fans hate male vtubers and are racist
>>112180675>barely any effort or resourcesDon't kid yourself. Before the defunding, they got more supports than even some Holo girls did
>>112180104They did. Holostars never appears on financial reports, they just get lumped into "Hololive Production" becasue FAGOO wanted to hide how his boys were a drag on resources for seven years.
>>112178841NTA, but given that recently Shien said that he used to make twice the average salary of nip salarymen, you can see how little HoloStars made. Average JP salaryman's yearly salary is around ~$34K, double that and we have ~$68K - heck, let's be generous and round it up to make it $70K. That's Shien, one of the top Star members when it comes to amount of paypigs. Meanwhile, according to Cover's financial report, they pay HoloPro members ~$450K each annually on average (mind you, this was average so it was already dragged down by HoloStars).When one of the top HoloStars members make less 1/6th of the average Holo member makes, you will need a lot of effort to convince me that they were doing well financially
>>112180104Gee retard maybe the fact that they buried homos earnings with everything else while showing off holoEN and holoID profits should have clued you in on the fact that they were in the red Supporting my statement that the financial reports refute his bullshit claim that they were making money.
>>112180717>Don't kid yourself. Before the defunding, they got more supports than even some Holo girls didThat's just objectively false, especially in JP.
>>112181049No, anon, you don't understand. Stars just needed a couple billion more spent on subway ads or something. Two mor-no seven more Twitch Takeover events. Uh, maybe a giant laser to carve "Watch Holostars" onto the face of the moon. Just more 'support'. It'll work this time. Please.
>>112181314i don’t watch holostars, but i would have tweet about it if they had done any of that!
>>112181303I won't bother posting that pic anons have been posting over and over again, but mind telling me how all those weren't more than... whatever Choco-sen or RBC ever received?
>>112181314This but unironically. The fact that butthurt anons can post literally every single stars ad from the last 7 years on a completely readable image is a testament to how infrequent it was.
>>112181387>>112181379Choco-sen and RBC alone have had more advertising space than that. Think of all the 3D streams, the event promotions, the actual physical merch ranging from plushies to statues(that's plural, mind you) to shit like bakeries and sweets, ramen commercials, wines, etc. etc. Compare that to any individual homo.
>>112181387"You anons celebrating Stars dying are butthurt. You're SO mad! Stop celebrating - because you're actually secretly MAD about it. So butthurt!"I'd say stop embarrassing yourself, but it's gotten kind of funny.
>>112181507companies come and ask for talents to work with. no one wanted to work with thes tars cause they're shit. companies want to collab and sell shit. talents go and make merch deals happen. NO ONE BOUGHT ANYTHING MADE FOR THE STARS SO IT STOPPED GETTING MADE YOU FUCKING RETARD
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>>112181551>NO ONE BOUGHT ANYTHING MADE FOR THE STARS SO IT STOPPED GETTING MADE YOU FUCKING RETARDExcept any physical merch they DID make kept selling outThis seemed to be the case for nearly everything stars related on both sides of the pond. Meet and greets? Barely any tickets. Merch? Always just a few pieces that have no hope of ever breaking even. The JP boiz sold out 3 concerts, and yet they never got a fourth.
>>112181606>Except any physical merch they DID make kept selling outSelling out like how Bettel's birthday merch last year sold 200 / 600 units?
>>112181507>>112181606>>112181551If a company collabs with a male vtuber I would never buy a product from that company
>>112181555RAPE
>>112181606>sold out 3 concertsyou don’t make money from concerts unless you’re the biggest artists selling super overpriced tickets
>>112169238I don't know why /vt/ acts like a company pulling all your funding then does a performative "oh noo you're leaving? well we hope you do well on your future endeavours" isn't some black company shit. At least when "kuro"sanji axes their talent it's clear that they were expecting a certain level of performance you didn't meet. This is literally sticking the employee you don't want in a broom closet and waiting for them to resign so you don't have to put on record that you fired them.
>>112181507>shit like bakeries and sweets, ramen commercials, wines, etc. etc.Any collab / sponsorships with entities outside of Cover isn't up to them to decide>the actual physical merchI'm not sure if I'd consider physical merch a form of support. No one gets more popular from having physical merch>Think of all the 3D streams, the event promotionDo you truly think that appearing for a few minutes in company-wide events was any sort of actual advertising? (I assume that was what you meant because outside of Holo-wide events, RBC and Choco-sen got no special event for themselves)
>>112181794Don't look at bottom feeders in Niji who have been getting current homoStar treatment for years
>>112169238maybe stars shouldnt have been such faggots and instead be entertaining
I have genuine negative sympathy for homofags. They performatively "support" the boys but don't even watch their streams, let alone spend money on them. They try to drag the girls down by forcing them to shill the boys, despite all attempts to shill them producing zero results for the boys, and negative results for the girls. They expect a publicly traded company to continue to throw money at the failed branch even more than they already have, with all the chances they've had. I'm not a Yagoo worshiper, but these retards should be sucking his cock for how long he's managed to keep the Stars alive. But homofags are retarded, so I don't really expect any sense from them.
>>112181794good. I hope yagoo and the other CEOs and stuff gay raped them too
>>112169238Back in my day women could sustain several boy bands and actors at the same time, guess bitches 2 broke nowadays.
>>112178747>They had customized merchs for 6 years and had access to the 3D studio up until 2 months ago. They got multiple group venue live, their own mini hologra, tons of sponsorships and yet their numbers reclines every year.So the bare minimum of a what is expected of a billion yen company. It's like you schizos wanted them to get nothing and be happy with it.
>>112182020You sound miserable lmao.
>>112182165>bare minimum of a what is expected of a billion yen companyin most companies you get shit until you prove you earn the right to have those stuff
>>112182165Yeah. They got support and couldn't pull their weight regardless. Hence why they're getting axed. Also implying getting a hologra-like is 'bare minimum' for the industry. Fucking kek.
>>112182051women dont watch vtubers. they brought bts from nothing by looping their songs on repeat
>>112181606this is so obviously insanely false. Explain using even a single ounce of logic and not emotion if the stars consistently sold out their merch or moved merch at all why cover a for profit company that also clearly REALLY wanted the stars to succeed would not have sold more stars merch?? they will shovel endless amount of the girls merch because it sells. like this is just so OBVIOUSLY a complete retarded lie how do u go online and type it??
I can't wait until the EN side is out on the curb too. Their fujo management can't protect their asses forever.
>>112177495>niji ENDaaaamn
>>112182427Two more weeks unitroon
>>112182460The only troons here are the Starsfags.
>>112182334The current narrative is that someone in Cover has it for homostars and intentionally tried / is trying to screw them over
>>112181507>>112181551Whenever I see the argument that the girls have more sponsorships / commercials, it makes me wonder if stars fans really believe it's Cover or if one of the girls themselves approaches a brand looking for a collaboration.
>>112182165they should have had to pay to be in hololive. fuck the stars, they got too much
>>112182460holoID enjoyer
>>112182509>is that someone in Cover has it for homostars and intentionally tried / is trying to screw them over
>>112181842No one is surprised when Niji treats their bottom feeders like shit, it's expected.Cover always tried to put this feeling of everyone being treated equal which obviously wasn't the case, Suisei alone proved that false when she was a full on Holo.Cover/Hololive is just a very toxic association for the homos, no matter what they did they would always be in the shadow of the more popular Hololive.
>>112182252He's right tho
>>112182815>Cover always tried to put this feeling of everyone being treated equal which obviously wasn't the caseIt obviously was the case, and that was the exact problem. Letting Suisei operate with her own agency structure is the epitome of it. Despite being the biggest agency, they still couldn’t properly support talents who wanted to reach a national level.>no matter what they did they would always be in the shadow of the more popular HololiveThat’s exactly why people who understood the situation said they needed to be separated from Hololive. But instead, they kept pushing collaborations so they could “win”.
>>112184114>But instead, they kept pushing collaborations so they could “win”.they kept pushing collaboration because bitches can't stand seeing men be happy. it's why they invade literally every male space and then ruin it. there was literally a "male space" where old bong men were making shit in their garages and showing each other the shit they made on the internet and then women, seeing men be happy, forced themselves into that space too to try to ruin it
>>112176599I saw someone took a photo of their personal items area for public viewing, there are literally no glass, no staff guarding them and no visitor care enough to steal it. It's just out in the open like if you throw you wallet and keys on table.
>>112181303Uproar get 3D debut 6months after their debut, that is peak favoritism.
>>112181606>Except any physical merch they DID make kept selling This is objectively not true, even the 3 years old merchs of vesper and magni were in holoshop until last month when announced the merch disposal.
>>112181303>>112184739>we ended the tempiss collab ban early due to >popular demand>we also required most of the girls to acknowledge the homos and banned the girls from streaming over their debuts
>>112181794The summary of one of nijisanji Black historyhttps://litter.catbox.moe/gzlwzi.jpg
>>112177495Phase getting INDOMINATED
>>112169238Of course Janken Pomme is furious, you can bet your ass he wanted to join Holostars and certainly applied before the reduction in support news dropped. His dream is crushed forever.
>>112169238Stars is a failure, but wasting money on stupid games is a bigger failure
>>112169498Homoen still alive, they should have gone first
>>112172110HomoEn didn't receive as much support as jp
>>112172531Cover never give the model to anyone. Fuck off. Don't think the homos more valuable than graduated women
>>112175970>start over from scratch>Kson did>Sakuna did>Mikecat didStop whining faggot. Asking for models only show they are more pathetic than women
>>112185748>Don't think the homos more valuable than graduated womenThis is some twisted logic.How on earth would the girls be affected by this? I'll never understand asians and their obsession with, "Yeah, well I had to deal with this bullshit so you do too!" That's how we got stuck in this "omg you need at LEAST a year before you get 3D" even for the fucking dance group."
No amount of marketing, investment or switching target markets can make stars popular simply because at their core 70% of stars are bad to mid streamers/content creators. Excluding roberu and aruran, they are just plain boring. Put stars vods side by side with someone like aqua/pekora, there's more variety in content produced. Why would people choose to watch stars when the other side is simply better? They used to have one entertaining and charismatic member aka beyblade man but got terminated. Stars themselves also barely have any unity so the 1+1 = 3 tactics the girls are good at can't be used by stars.
>>112179301The jews did genocide, they deserve that
>>112179569Ok, that mean they can go to better places now
>>112179738>nijinigger came to shit on this thread
>>112180375>change the brandingFaggot talk but never watch
>>112179965This is funny because if anyone could have saved Stars through collaborations, it would have been the Niji males, not the Holo girls.
>>112181606>sold out 3 concertsProof?
>>112182020You recognize their true goal already. They never want stars, they wanna drag holowomen down
>>112186338they literally told gura she couldn't stream over tempiss, retardo
>>112185867What a pussy. The kind that never grow up, always ask for handouts
>>112186397The merge of both to holopro is fucking stupid
>>112172531Giving away the IPs would only weaken the company and set a bad precedent especially to the girls who may have thought about quitting at any point.
>>112169338based
>>112176599>The stars space was always the emptiest part of the entire expono surprise
>>112169238KWAB
>>112169338
>>112170104> be sure to support the girls especially the ID ones because they're next on the chopping blockI'm gonna raugh so hard when ID4 gets announced later this year.These beggarfags are gonna immolate themselves.
>>112178828They're obviously not going to make the same mistake they made with JP for EN lmaoPost dumb and dumber restructuring already culled the EN homo branch into becoming more individualistic, that's why there's so few group activities for the EN homos.
>>112185834>Miguel starting over Nigga do you have eyes?
>>112176599>The stars space was always the emptiest part of the entire expo hallBECAUSE THERE WAS NOTHING THERE. Every year Stars fans have openly said that they have no reason to go to holoexpo as fans of the stars because Cover gives them no reason to. Then Cover uses that as a reason to give them less of a reason to the following year, perpetually feeding into the same problem. This logic has permeated throughout every decision Cover made with stars over the last 3 or 4 years.>Fans are buying merch, but not as much as we'd like? Let's scrap the original merch and switch to standardized generic shit>Fans don't like the new standardized generic shit and feel less inclined to buy merch>Why aren't fans buying merch anymore? Better just stop selling merch since there clearly isn't a market anymore!rinse and repeat with every little thing you could think of with the members and you eventually hit where we are now
>>112193641>Fans are buying merch, but not as much as we'd like?Yes, retard! This is what we've been telling you all thread. Your very first line betrays your point.
>>112194205The point is that people were buying their merch and instead of trying to find a way to get more people to buy merch to get more profits, they made the merch worse thinking they'd get the same sales but more profits. Naturally, fans realized they were getting fucked over here and felt less interested in buying generic low effort crap and instead of seeing fans were mad because they were getting a worse product with no incentive to keep giving them money, they took it as "well clearly nobody wants merch anymore at all!" and scaled back more instead of trying to restore goodwill with their audience and give them something that'd actually keep their fans interested and only made it worse. The same thing happened with everything else across the stars.
Your Oshi will still remain fucked by them
The wild thing is despite winning, they're still malding so heavily, if not more than ever.The other wild thing is everytime the promition image gets posted, all I think about is how the girls (at least en) would've gotten the Twitch Takeover sooner if it wasn't for Gunrun.
Cover supported them for YEARS, it's not their fault that the Twitter people didn't do their part.
>>112195637You ever see that Shien picture?
>>112195584Gunrun can eat shit now and forever.
When holostars is dead, who will /vt/ Boogeyman?
>>112195746Don't think I have, is one rare fan?>>112195797Twitch whores
>>112169285>Faggot accountheh
>>112195797phasenigs, as per usual
>>112169238It's rich when the resounding majority of this hellhole of a fucking community says shit like this only to spend years attacking Cover for X and Y because they didn't get their way as fans, and now suddenly just shamelessly lick their boots unapologetically.And, get this, the fact that 6 graduations are more important than Holofes or someone getting a Sololive, an album, any kind of accomplishment, dost thou have no shame nor conviction? Any reason to be here outside participating in the culture wars I decided to escape?What the fuck am I doing here anymore. This isn't about Holostars, this isn't even about supporting Holostars, this is about living in hell, being a wallflower, and being forced out of your own community you've called home for years. Was harassing my own oshi years and years ago worth it? Why put on the mask now?
>>112169498>>112177583Likewise. It'll just be dog eat dog until there's no one left to deface. Don't act as if it's world peace now that Holostars is gone, because the ire and wrath of this community will be going elsewhere, in unprecedented places.Ah who am I kidding, no one's safe.
>>112172196Sadly they're just white trash alcoholics and schizos.
>>112195797Any surviving males who chose to stay.
>>112185919The real elephant in the room is no one actually want to watch ikemen faggots. It is the worst archetype in Japanese media. And why do men even need anime boy avatar? The hobby literally created by a bunch of ugly white dudes.
>>112169338Commit murder then.
>>112180375Nice to admit you're an anti. Guess we now know who's next in the incel demands.
>>112181665It's time to change hobbiesOr stick to iM@S, maybe they'll let you in
>>112181794>Cover should not be a black company>NO YOU JUST CANT OFFER GOODWILL LIKE THAT
>>112182165Not even just themThey're now demanding the low performers including some of the high performers to be axed next.You thought they'd stop at Holostars? Think again.
>>112186282>they wanna drag holowomen downThe hypocrisy is astounding with this one. Look at how this board reacted to Laplus's birthday live just a few days ago
>>112196207>Nice to admit you're an antiYou're aware this is an anti board, right?
>>112170104>>112172580This shit isn't actually going to happen, it's just pathetic homobeggar starsister cope. But I'll say this: if that's what it takes to finally kill off the entire Homoshitter branch, I'm completely fine with it. Those homoshitters are parasites, and sometimes you have to kill the host to make sure the parasite dies. We've had years of bullshit piled on the girls because of retarded management sisters, while these fags were always protected. Not anymore. Now the axe is finally swinging at that branch, and I couldn't be happier.
>>112185834How the fuck else are they supposed to reincarnate then? There's no rule outside the Law of Chud that says if a VTuber leaves a corporation they're not allowed to stream elsewhere.
>>112196340I laugh at every graduation because of people like you.
>>112195797Anyone that /#/ doesn't like, so basically 99.9% of all VTubers including 95% of Hololive
>>112196334>the only place to discuss VTubers that matters is an anti boardGuess I'll just fuck off then. Just know that you're not in good company when other otaku niches way more hardcore than Hololive/VTubers hate you more than you hate Holostars or male VTubers.
>>112169461So just like every brown subhuman in /vt/ ?
>>112196356You realize he's agreeing with you, right?
>>112196395/vt/ is probably one of the whitest boards on this website but it's also somehow one of the shittiest. Schizos tend to be chuds too.
>>112196341NTA, but clearly his point was that girls managed to start from scratch and grew just fine (not entirely accurate since there will always be a portion of the fanbase follow them over to the next identity, but this applies to every ex-corpo anyway) without ever complaining about not getting to keep their models. There is no reason homos can't do the same unless they are, as anon put it, "more pathetic" than those girls
>>112196447No, he was clearly singling out ex-Holos as pathetic just as the Holostars. It's typical of this place and you should know that's how hivemind works. You get called an indie avengers cuck every time you bring this up, and that's where he was hinting at.Oh well, it's not like they need them anyways. When you're in the Top 3% of all VTubers to exist, even when you leave, nothng else matters. Worry about the 97% that struggle to make ends meet.
Ah hell, nevermind, the new unicorn complaint is that everyone is streaming Forza Horizon 6 now.
>>112169238July is going to be even better kek
>>112169238My problem with Stars is that i don't really like hearing man's voice in background too much.If i want to watch a Vtuber i'd rather hear a female voice.But i know they work really really hard and they're actually good content creators.I will never understand why people hate them so much desu.
>>112196560>I will never understand why people hate them so much desu.Peer pressure
>>112196560>I will never understand why people hate them so much desu.HomoEN and their infamous "Hate marketing!" asides, their begging or denial fans are mostly the cause
>>112196822what's the "hate marketing" you're talking about?
>>112171959All efforts to foist Holostars onto Hololive fans should have ended on this day100k people when given a choice between watching the homos or nothing chose to go do literally anything else
>>112197101Laplus collabing with her favorite character in iM@S
>>112170104Everyone saying ID is next is forgetting that if they were ever in any actual danger, Reine could subsidize the entire branch with her pocket change
>ID soonPlease remember that Anya makes enough money to splurge on a Miku appearance WHILE living full-time in Tokyo
>>112197101Jurald's infamous speech where he claimed he was pissing Hololive fans off intentionally as part of his scheme>Media awareness is a thing in studying communications>I used to study communication>This type of thing is called 'hate marketing'>My name trends a lot, but not in a good way for some reason>My name is just there, in the wrong ways>You're also contributing to my growth, did you know that?>Not all bad things are good for marketing, but I haven't done a single bad thing at all>You guys are making me look like a bad person, I haven't even done anything>When people see my "drama" they would be like "so? what's bad about it?">So these guys would check me out, and then BOOM, more supporters>I may have said some dumb things, the period thing, faith, animal crossing, discriminatio- ok enough enough>Segregation*laughs*>This is honestly a very anime adventure thing. Y'know, throughout any adversity fighting through it, I'm there.>You're feeding me my fantasy. this is next level.>I can't help but feel like I'm the main character of this world.>These villains are just trying so hard, but they will never, ever reach me.>I guess this is like attention, but it's a give and take scenario y'know>You spread my name, I spread the heinous acts.>Are you not tired of it? are you not tired of my growth?<....>>They don't get it. leaving me alone is their best option, but they just never do>You remember the kitten tweet that I did to ironmouse? that was like, ultimate marketing material>It honestly started off as a joke because I know ironmouse is like a famous streamer and she can take a lot of blows>But, y'know, people talk. People spread the word.>Right before debut, great advertisement>Everyone's like probably simping over me, and I thought "y'know what would be really funny? If I say the most outlandish shit ever, and people go *eugh*">And then look what happened! tabloid news, everywhere! that was nice>People would relate to me "he's cringe and based at the same time"Turns out that his "hate marketing" didn't work...
>>112197101That guy loves to purposefully rile up Hololive fans and then said "When they hate on me, they are actually spreading awareness of me on the internet">that time Shiori decided to collab with them out of nowhere>lots of her fans were being annoyed by it>he decided to pick picrel thumbnailI didn't care that much since I don't watch Shiori, but you can't tell me that wasn't on purposeWell, except it doesn't work. He's now pivoting to becoming a BFE chuba ala Vox.
>>112197307>2 girls collabing with each other>I AM SO MAD>YEAH I DID IT TO MAKE YOU MADretard
>>112197494Clearly it worked because you were mad the whole time it happened
>>112197426I just don't like him for streaming during my oshis graduations stream.
>>112197480>Well, except it doesn't work. He's now pivoting to becoming a BFE chuba ala Vox.KEK
>>112196560Few people actually have a problem with StarsJP. They're harmless enough. Most of the cross-branch collabs came from the girl side i.e Fubuki, Towa, Botan, etc.This board hate StarsEN specifically because>they debutted during the dark year of 2021 when HoloEN was in a dry phase, multiple girls were sick, and there was no news of a new gen>their fans started claiming that StarsEN were EN3 and "Who needs new girls? Just watch the new boys!">unlike the JP side, StarsEN and their fans have a vested interest in forcing the girls to collab with themEven now, if you ask most of these StarsEN fans how their oshi can be as big as the girls, their default answer will be>force the girls to collab with our boys
>>112197685>ID only succeeded because they leeched on JPKek, actual retardThey succeeded because they streamed in English and were considered EN-lite, back when EN only had Myth
>>112197426>>112197480First you're hating an entire branch just because of (1) dude if this is the case.Also most of it i see it's just schizoposting, like the thumbnail. In the post you said, he even mentioned he isn't doing anything wrong and he admit he may have said "some dumb thing".So i don't really get the hate with him.He just explained how "hating him" is useless and it just makes him grow more, which is true in part. Jurard was indeed big as a male vtuber. You shouldn't compare him to the female ones.
Na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, hey, hey, hey, goodbye!
>>112197958>he even mentioned he isn't doing anything wrongWe disagreed. He said the term "hate marketing", not us.>he may have said "some dumb thing"ogey? Why must we forgive him? You made your own bed. Lie in it>Jurard was indeed big as a male vtuber.only if you're a homosis, and you probably are, who loves to lower the standards of success to "well 3views streamers can make nice enough living".That's not Hololive.
>>112197958>So i don't really get the hate with him.Jeez, I wonder why>livers
>>112197958>Jurard was indeed big as a male vtuber.lol no. "big as a male vtuber" is those NijiJP fags who get as big numbers as Pekora or Miko, not these subsidized homos
>>112197958>First you're hating an entire branch just because of (1) dude if this is the case.see >>112197685
>>112198232>He said the term "hate marketing"Which is what it is. As i said, he was explaining the concept, of why you shouldn't watch him or talk about him if you don't want him, because you'll do the "hate marketing".>Why must we forgive him?Why do you hate him exactly? For some "dumb thing" which you can't even say?>only if you're a homosisNo, it's about numbers and context here.
>>112198353because "hate marketing" doesn't fucking work, dumbass.He's a dumbass who just loves to ragebait instead of growing his own audience
>>112198279>NijiJP fags who get as big numbers as Pekora or MikoPost proof go on.
>>112198353>because you'll do the "hate marketing".We laugh at him because jhatge marketing is not a thing.For ex: Asmongold succeeds not because a lot of people hate him and seethe about him all days, but because there's a sizeable fandom who legit loves the shit he does.That's not "hate marketing", just "I'm gonna choose this 50% of America's audience instead of the other 50%"
>>112198425This chart fluctuates, but it's not that hard to find months where Kazuha or the other one (Kanade?) led the pack
>>112198353>No, it's about numbers and context here.what numbers kek?No it's about you defending a homo who has a fetish for imaginary-cucking Holo fans.
>>112198353>Why do you hate him exactly? For some "dumb thing" which you can't even say?Scroll up, retard. Don't just ignore posts that disagree with you.
>>112198353>>112198251
>>112198466>go check any of kuzuhas streams>1 message in chat per minuteUhhhh...?
>>112198466so you just use wrong charts, i see.
>>112197480>>112197523>"I'm going to go out of my way to be an asshole.">"Okay, then I don't like you and will not support you.">"Heh. Rent free much?"Dinofags and flips unironically believe this is le epic trolling, and not just being a nuisance.
>>112198419You think he ragebaited while it's not. In those greentext you guys posted there is no where written that he did that on purpose. He was just explaining a concept.He may think some of his growth is made by "hating", because the "hate marketing" isn't something he made up. I studied communication too and i know it works, not always, it can fire back pretty hard, but it works.And of course it's not like growing an healthier fanbase, nowhere i said that and neither him said that. So as this anon said: >>112198447it's stupid. No one mentioned Asmongold. It's useless to pick up him as an example.>>112198546Still, nothing wrong said there. He just said guys do not do that.
>>112194513look at all of the holo room reviews. the simps buy all the acryllics. if the homo fans won't buy acryllics why would you expect good merch?? weak ass broke loser fans and that's why y'all got fired.
>>112198447>Asmongold succeeds not because a lot of people hate him and seethe about him all days, but because there's a sizeable fandom who legit loves the shit he does.That's not "hate marketing", just "I'm gonna choose this 50% of America's audience instead of the other 50%"Asmon was a widely beloved MMO/Warcraft gamer and that was what made him popular in the first place. The current shitshow he is doing is actually trending down, botted and he is burning more bridges than building new ones.
>>112196227I watch Panko, homo
>>112198447Asmongold succeeded because he was an entertaining gamer. Nowadays both sides are wishing him death and his Twitch got demonetized long ago.
>>112194572Now type that without crying
>>112198353>>112198447>>112198790I don't watch the man with 3 teeth and a messy room, but 3/4ths of white men under 40 voted for the president. the majority of Americans agree with him, it's only nonwhites, women and homos that hate him and yuros but that falls under the nonwhites and homos part
>>112198871you have to be a dumb vegan or failing small streamer to fall for these sex pests lmao. the holo mem will be getting with way higher quality dudes that have a lot more money.
7 years of temper tantrums over these guys and not at one point did any of you consider that some people like both homos and the cunts
>>112169338spbp
>>112196447The girls all either chose to graduate or got fired because they violated their contract. In this case, Cover is clearly trying to force these these guys out. They hope that if they take away enough benefits they'll leave on their own instead of having to make themselves look bad by terminating the whole branch. I don't think it's that strange that fans of theirs would hope they'd get to keep their models if Cover just wants them gone.
>>112198884The average American are not as extreme as you think. They voted Trump mostly to see what he can do for the US economy, not expecting him to bring back KKK or someshit. Asmongold's current content is just ragebait, it doesn't have that much power or reasoning on a large scale.
I'll remember this thread when more of the girls graduate this year.
>>112199739Never give up hope, Homo Sister!
>>112199694the average American wants thirdies out. we had the 3 highest years of literally every form of immigration in 2021, 2022 and 2023. in 1990 there were 19 million foreign borns in the US, in 2024 there were 50 millionin 2024 15% of the US pop was foreign born, that's the highest percent since 1890. in 1970 it was 4.5%in 1990 13% of children had at least one foreign born parent in the US, in 2024 it was 26%the immigration thing isn't even just a US thing. the guy who doesn't clean his room gets a ton of viewers because thirdies invading global northern countries and then shitting in the street is a massive issue in every global northern country and people want it to end. also thirdies inherently fuck up the economy because they take up resources like housing and they increase the labor pool and drive down wages often working for illegally low wages with no payroll tax
>>112199213Cover created the characters. They are not gonna give them away for free.
>>112198884average americans just want cost of living to go down and not be involved in wars, and unfortunately they fell for trump’s lies again.
>>112199898And just like how you people used slaves to build the modern America itself. It hasn't changed and it is somewhat the American way. If there is no immigrants then companies will still outsourcing China and SEA to cut cost and keep the price low for the average American consumer.
>>112199925The chuddie brothers literally think Government actually care about them if there is no immigrants kek. They keep falling for it again and again, it is funny.
>>112198698You're just ignoring this pic >>112198251 on purpose huh, homosis?Go on, explain why a Cover talent would call himself a "liver">You think he ragebaited while it's notPeople got offended by what he said. That you agree with him and don't find that offensive means jack shit.
>>112198884>it's only nonwhites, womenKekOnly you /pol/sters would call that part of the population "only"
>>112198634You're literally agreeing with me. Are you from /#/ or something?
>>112196191>The hobby literally created by a bunch of ugly white dudes....???
>>112198698>You think he ragebaited while it's not.So your opinions matter more than ours, and we should all agree with you always.Got it.Man, you sisters are so dumb
>>112199213>I don't think it's that strange that fans of theirs would hope they'd get to keep their models if Cover just wants them gone.There's no universe where a big agency like Cover or Anycolor would give away their models for free. Don't be a retard. That has never happened before for much bigger ex-talents
>>112200325The whole youtuber and streamer as a concept started by men. Women didn't stream or cared about Youtube.
>>112198698>because the "hate marketing" isn't something he made up. I studied communication too and i know it worksLike oshi, like fanbaseSo full of shit and STILL believing that trolling Holo fans is the right way to get popular.This is exactly why fags like me wants StarsEN gone, and StarsJP is just collateral damage. You faggots are actually malicious.
>>112200365Go back to /pol/, jesas fuck.
>>112196191>>112200365Who the fuck cares how a hobby was created? That has no bearing on what it can become decades from then
>homo thread became /pol/ threadPar for the course
>>112199925>>112200046you aren't American. and again, this isn't limited to the US. leafland, ausfalia and yurop all have rising right wing anti immigrant populist parties. I think the 2nd biggest party by votes in bongistan right now is that ukip one>>112200009the free trade shit only dates back to the 1990sit's not some forever thing.
>>112200252why wouldn't we? they don't count, hololiveID enjoyer
>>112200388Male vtuber is just ridiculous as a concept. Femoids don't have that big of a presence as youtubers and streamers so it is understandable for them to use idealistic anime girl avatar and create their niche. For men, when they hide behind a pretty boy avatar it just looks faggy like that Corpse Husband guy.
>>112198353>No, it's about numbers and context here.Nboody is fooled by this, you retard. We can all see that you're goung out of your way to white-knight a Flip troll
>>112200465So many American goods are made in China. It is not an old timey thing.
>>112200488I'm not debating you because I know debating that on 4chan is stupidI'm just saying of course /pol/ would believe so.
>>112200292The numbers are completely different by the narrative you were trying to show. Pekora in the same day does the triple amount of that dude views. So your argument was pretty much invalid.>>112200326It's not about opinions.The things you posted aren't ragebaiting. Like take the thumbnail for example, do you think that's ragebaiting... why? Because he is smiling? You have no proof at all to consider what he does "ragebaiting".If you "felt" ragebaited it's technically your problem, based by insecurities or prejudices you should work on.The best thing you could do is following his example, do not watch him, nor mention him.>>112200388>Like oshi, like fanbaseNever said he is my oshi.>believing that trolling Holo fans is the right way to get popular.But the greentext you guys posted he said that he never trolled.What he said was "people hate me for some reasons, maybe i said something dumb i dunno, but they have to ignore me to actually make some effect because in this way they only make more people curious about me and they might start watching me etc..."
>>112200532that shit only started in the 1990s. we used to have tariffs. the yuropoors still have tariffs, see the vat shit on holo merch>>112200557you sound like a homosexual, a risu and ollie enjoyer and a holostars enjoyer
>>112200588You are STILL ignoring posts that disagree with you because they got proofs that he was trolling holo fans, KEKKeep trying, sister
>>112200645and you're arguing about /pol/ on /vt/
>>112200651>You are STILL ignoring posts that disagree with you because they got proofs Which one? That chart psoted? I already replied to it.
>>112200588>It's not about opinions.lol, are you ESL or something?Do you not know what an "opinion" means?>The things you posted aren't ragebaiting.There you go. That's an opinion
>>112200704no no anon, you don't get it. everything he says is a fact,and everything we says is an opinionthat's how it works
>>112200588>went outside>a flip fag threw shit at me just because I don't give him money>You: Actually I don't consider it a bad thing. You should be better and just forgive him anyway, even if what he did was not a bad thing
>>112200588>>112198546
I smell a flip in this thread. Let's see if I'm right.
>>112200588>You have no proof at all to consider what he does "ragebaiting"KEK, this fucking sisterAlso, ESL-chama
remember
>>112200682you watch male vtubers
>>112200875I'm not this fag >>112200588 kek
>>112200704>There you go. That's an opinionOk so, if you really want to take this way, then neither what you're saying it's a "fact".So since both of us aren't saying facts, you're literally saying you're schizo and you think he is ragebaiting.Because you cannot bring any facts if not your "opinions".That's why i'm saying it's not about "opinions".>>112200779You still cannot point out a thing compared to "throwing shit".
Never forget how much the homo fans were giving thumbs up to the dinofag for "successful hate marketing strats"
>>112200854>cannot argue further>eheh ESL!
Yep, it sure smells like Flip in here
>>112200860>yes we did all the damage we could attacking the girls but they're at fault tooSubhuman trash
>>112200902>a lot of Holo fans: this fag is a troll who believes he can be as big as Pekora by cuckposting Holo fans>you: nuh uh, he's my innocent baby
>>112200902>you're literally saying you're schizo and you think he is ragebaiting.Thank you for confirming your position>if you don't agree with me and don't support the boys, you're a schizo
>>112201115What else should i say?You're saying someone is shit because you think he is "ragebaiting" and you cannot even prove it.
>there's no proof that he doesn't troll Hololive fans by acting like he's BFF with your oshi behind-the-scene and would collab with them anytime he wantsKek
>>112174457I keep seeing this repeated but I don't think it's true. I'm sure they watched all the stuff religiously, they just didn't feel obligated to pay, to send donos and buy the merch and pay for memberships and all the other shit that's required to keep the lights on, because they're women. Women don't pay for stuff, women get stuff paid for by men. Especially with schizo parasocial fujos who treat the male vtuber like their boyfriend, the idea of sending him money gives them the ick, that's gross, because he's the boyfriend, and the boyfriend is supposed to be the one giving the girlfriend the money. Imagine going to your gf (imagine you had one, then imagine going to her) and saying, "Hey babe, I'd really love to continue our relationship but I just need you to fork over like a couple hundred bucks for me." Unless if you're literally Chad Thundercock that shit ain't gonna last.This is why male-centric streamers (be they vtubers or gaming streamers or whatever) make all their money from memberships, subscriptions, donations etc. while female-centric 'content' creators (lifestyle tik tokers, makeup tutorials) make all their money from brand deals and affiliate marketing.
>>112201168People have been showing all sorts of proofs iTTWe're sorry you fall this hard for a Flip troll of all people
>>112200933>tweet that aged like milk
>>112201234>all sorts of proofsIf you mean the greentext and the thumbnail i already replied.The greetext says how he is not ragebaiting but saying to not watch him if you don't like him.The Thumbnail is literally schizoposting, because how can you really prove he did that on purpose? He is just smiling and there are the other his friends on the same thumbnail.because they're playing with him.
>>112200933He first mentioned "Hate Marketing; back in mid 2024 or somethingShit has gone down the hill for them since, which is why retards like this fag >>112200588 are trying to rewrite history claiming that "he totally didn't mean it"Even though they were giving each other high fives back then because 'IT WORKS"
>>112201311>because how can you really prove he did that on purpose?hate marketing, bruhGotta hustle
>>112200933>Hate marketing works indeedKWAB
>>112201168>What else should i say?Maybe consider many other people's opinions and wonder if, maybe they're not wrong, but you are
>>112200933As I wrote aboveLike oshi, like fanbaseThey care more about shitting on the girls' fans than building a loyal base who would actually watch their content
>>112200933>new direction of HololiveMy sides
>>112201347But he mentioned the hate marketing only to invite the haters to not watch him, not because he wanted to go for it. You're just taking out his words and add more things then he ever said. He even said the comment on Ironmous was a joke, it wasn't to bait.>>112201412Why? You haven't given any real info against him.I was never going to ask timestamp, because the think you posted already said everything about you guys.
>>112198353>only if you're a homosis>No, it's about numbers and context here.Literally nobody. and I mean nobody, would spend this much time argue in his behalf if they're not a fan of his.>doesn't watch streams>doesn't even admit to being a fan on an anon siteThis is why that branch fucking died
>>112201734>I was never going to ask timestamp, because the think you posted already said everything about you guys.KEK>I will not give proofs because I don't think you deserve proofs. You should just cave to me
>>112201825Keep shifting the point on me will not let you go anywhere>>112201855>I will not give proofs because I don't think you deserve proofs. You should just cave to meNever said it.This shows your reading comprehension and that's even why you shouldn't call something "ragebaiting" if this is your level.Since you're the one ponting out something, i should ask you for proof, but i didn't because the think you posted was already enough to understand what's wrong with you. I took that for legit because if you ever tried to make him look bad and that was the result, so making up stuff on purpose, then you did a really really bad job.That's what i was meaning.
>>112198708they buy acrylics because they're cheap options alongside all the other good merch options. if holofans were getting good merch then all of a sudden were being told they are only getting cheap acrylic keychains forever, fans would be furious and fans would rightfully understand the company is fucking them over and protest, but when it happened to stars, you're blaming the fans for it. Bootlicker behavior who doesn't understand why people have been saying Cover has slowly been killing the stars fanbase
