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>>112264025
>Why can't they recapture the old spark?
It's almost like management forced them into it instead of them naturally wanting to do it.

>>112264025
because the actually creative and entertaining girls left

>>112264212
And also Gura

Roleplay servers need dozens, if not hundreds, to be interesting.

i thought advent was going to be evil. instead we got whatever this shit is.

If you've ever thought reco was entertaining you probably have a subpar IQ

>>112264025
It's a shitshow this year. Low attendance and the RP lacked direction. There were a few plot threads that had potential like Shiori's cult and Raora's Illumination but the follow through wasn't great.

>>112264025
>Why can't they recapture the old spark?
Because the only good EN holomems remaining are FWMC and Biboo and I barely even want to watch them anymore. Hololive has never been more depressing than it is right now.

I miss faunas dungeon labyrinth streams

this is so dumb. whoever wrote these scenarios should be fired.

>>112264025
it should be one big day of this stuff and not a whole week of mid

>>112264025
>no fan-enforced yuri
It's comfy

>>112264025
I blame JP overlap. Why watch Bae when I could instead watch Korone or Noel.

>>112264025
They outright don't have the personality types needed. While the basic straight man/funny man is easy, expanding the dynamic across a multiple of people requires a good understanding of what role is suitable to them, which is actually quite difficult: you need to know what role people will fill, who is believable in that roll, and who can actually do it.

Like, who would be "the monster," IE, the person who seems dangerous, and who can create obstacles for everyone else? Who's the Charismatic Trickster, or the Underdog, The Loose Cannon?

They're all too blandly nice, and too inexperienced in Minecraft to get away with something like what Dream does, so it just isn't interesting.

>>112264400
kek

>that's it
Holy mid.

>>112264025
They can't
Hololive is fully treating it's members as cattle at this point and serve them slop focus groups and out of touch counsilting firms servred management with a "this will make stocks bump for +0,1%"
Eat the TRVE corporate slop goy

>>112264025
>rp with 15 people and less is bad
Woah who coulda seen this one coming

and now they're trash talking the whole collab and celebrating about it ending. Kek what a trainwreck.

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>>112264025
Watching a dead body being puppeted around for a week in EnReco was far more entertaining then anything coming out of the dying remains of NIJI-EN, sister.

>>112267702
>niji out of nowhere
holy rent free!!

>>112267702
The fuck do Nijicucks have to do with this? Enreco sucks and has always sucked

>>112264025
This was just a textbook case of 'no one giving a fuck'. The scenario writers did the bare minimum to meet their deliverables. Most of the talents were clearly exhausted and didn't want to be there. The writing was lazy af and the talents clearly knew it. And of course, Cover's toxic-positivity corpospeak filters were there to smother what little creativity might have otherwise slipped through the cracks.

>>112264025
>heroes get curbstomped because the gaming skills of the hero/villain teams were massively unbalanced
>management just throws their hands up and says 'fuck it, keep doing it over until the heroes win'
This is like a first-time Dungeon Master mistake in a basement DnD session. For a hundred-million-dollar corpo, it's the kind of laziness that borders on parody.

> character 1: says thing that is obviously evil!
> character 2: that sounds obviously evil
> character 1: uhhh noooo
> character 2: yayyyy!
> re
> fucking
> peat
> FOR A WHOLE GODDAM WEEK!

>>112268571
That part was so hard to watch.
Not one person understood the mechanics either.
It's almost like ONE playtest could have made them realize the game was terribly balanced.
If ONE person involved actually gave a shit, it may not have been great, but it would have been far better.

Too many main characters and too much focus on people who don't play into the bit. Made worse because it was shorter with less downtime and a third of the cast was gone for most of it, so there were only a couple forced plot-lines and nothing organic happening.
Everyone's seemingly very busy, and I don't think they cared as much either. Season 1 had a bunch of people building stuff and making shops, even season 2 had a fair amount of random stuff going on, but this one pretty much no one built stuff because why bother putting that much effort into a 5 day minecraft world.
Also where is the continuation from season 2's ending?

>>112269766
CC built a castle (and absolutely hated doing it) to show Kronii and didn't get to do it because of the finale
Shiori was also super pissed after building the church with the secret basement and said she won't do anything for the next one so look forward to them building even less stuff next ENReco

>>112264438
this tbdesu, these girls just can't rp

>>112264025
I honestly loved all the subplots of this season that the girls came up with, but the rushed main storyline and that God fucking awful chase minigame near the end was completely insufferable

I give this a 7.5/10

>>112269766
>a third of the cast was gone for most of it
what are you talking about, it was only Kiara, IryS, and (barely) Kronii that were gone.

>where is the continuation from season 2's ending
the continuation was that advent was evil. that was it. Honestly I agree, not very in depth.

>>112266374
>Dream
there's no fucking way this is a serious post

>>112267702
funny enough niji en did their own version of enreco and it was leagues better

>>112264438
but anon, Shiori built a hole with fire on the wall and lied a lot. Pls anon, you have to see how evil that is.

>>112270185
The emergent subplots of this chapter had a lot of potential but they all fizzled right at the finish line. The church's basement, the trial of Mordon, and the Illumination all either dropped or quickly rushed to a conclusion in a cacophonous dogpile of everyone trying to get a word in or catch up to everything that they missed. This is the major problem with how the girls rp, where everyone is either talking over each other trying to scrape some plot relevance off the ground or is so non-committal that there are no advancements in the situation presented to them with no middle ground between these extremes.
Add to this some completely obnoxious design decisions like having the factions have different prerequisites for entry into the dungeons (rebels got a slider puzzle, stars needed to grind for multiple high-level items), and the overly grindy nature of the upgrade system and faction quests in general and it's no wonder people got burnt out.
It had its moments, but for the most part this was miserable.

>>112270019
gigi and kronii are the only girls who can hold up a decent enough roleplay but even gonathan sort of lost his original charm. i don't blame the girls though. this shit should have ended with the first season.

>>112270545
well said

>>112270624
Kronii... eh, not really. Her acting schtick is being bad 'ironically'. Which is ok to play the straight man in short standup skits, but completely overstays its welcome in a full-length roleplaying campaign and just gets tedious.
Gigi, yeah, she was actually ok here. Probably better here than in her actual full-time stage persona, weirdly enough.

>>112270624
Gigi is trying to hard to appease everyone. I get that saying "yes, and" is a huge part in making RP fun, but you have to have conflict to make it interesting. ESPECIALLY when the people you are RPing with are blocking as hard as everyone else was.
Shiori was really starting to cook, but then she blocked any way for the story to progress.
I guess the real curse of advent is making shitty RP.

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I'd check in on this shit every once in a while on the few girls I liked and I swear it was the most boring shit ever each time. I thought the point of this was to make a role playing environment where maybe some natural conflicts and teaming up would occur and maybe cool stuff would happen, but it just feels like they all played a complicated and more boring minecraft with a weird rp where everyone is the main character.

>>112269982
why are they mad about building something in minecraft?

>>112269982
>CC built a castle (and absolutely hated doing it)
spoiled fucking slut cries because clicking your mouse in minecraft is too hard awww buhu why does nobody save our little princess and build dicks out of sand for her?!
i hate CC because she reminds me of the normie mean girls that were mean to me in school. german extroverted girls are whores and not to be trusted. atleast i used to have peace from them in my hobbies but now these attention seeking whores are everywhere

>>112264025
Damn xitter has nothing good to say about it, not even the drones are eating up the management forced games and story

>>112270940
Cici built 2 castles... well, a whole castle and ...whatever that other castle was, for Kronii and didn't even get to show it to her.
Shiori was mad because she built a hole in the ground and nobody gave a shit.

>>112270964
How many times have you shared this now? Nobody fucking cares you got bullied retard, probably deserved it seeing how whiny you are right now

>>112270810
My thing with Kronii RP is she actually legitimately did an excellent job with her RP with Gonathan yesterday. But you are right 95-99% of the time it's bad. She just has the talent to pull off small moments of good RP which admitedly a couple of the other girls can do but it's definitely not the norm.

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>>112271197
I wish CC would bully me...

I actually liked enreco3 more than the first two, Raora and Shiori's plots were very good.
The problem was how poorly they handled the ending, both in terms of advent not letting the others win (maybe they should have been told they were supposed to lose) and in terms of how unsatisfying the cliffhanger was vs what the girls themselves had built.

In the other it's the usual matter of the girls being miles ahead of the people in charge in terms of creativity and skills, which leads to both parties being incredibly frustrated.

If Shiori vocalized her desire to throw in the towel like this, I assume the rest feels in a similar way, and enreco 4 is going to the girls putting in minimum effort just to tick some boxes.

EN girls have 0 improvisational skills unlike JP's.

>>112271273
>maybe they should have been told they were supposed to lose

I think they knew they were supposed to but everyone on both sides underestimated how OP 9 potions, a much smaller hurt box, and slightly faster movespeed would make the thing a nightmare. Let alone Mococo's chameleon tactics.

>>112271491
https://x.com/Yoruguto_/status/2060582670870954163

Also how Fuwawa pretended to be an awful gamer for years just to reveal that she can play

>>112267702
There's more animosity towards hololive right now because holofags thought the killing of some of the most popular girls would lead to something but it ended up amounting to nothing, while Justice keeps bringing the absolute worst fans that make nijisisters look like normal human beings. These justice fags are awful.

they need to stretch it out more. too much in too little time. it legit needs to be a whole month of content to do right.

>>112264025
ENReco is by definition, forced. It's kinda funny as a one-off, but it's not really worth turning into a series, let alone a recurring one.

>>112271599
nigga still chatting about shit that happened a year ago, no that's not why ppl are pissed with cover stop covering ur ears

You know it's bad when Twitter and vt are in agreement. IRyS couldn't even give a fuck about this shit

>>112264400
kek

>>112271565
Uhh are people not aware that Advent had a significant speedboost compared to everyone else? It's not like she was making insane snap decisions and had great reflexes like this post says, she was just literally faster.

>>112270964
all women are whores retard

Iyger's writing sucks, the NPC dialogue was so tedious that even the girls were joking about a skip button. Literally all the good points that people mentioned before about past arcs and even this one were the girls just being silly, opening their own shops, etc. NOTHING to do with the fucking lore dumps or dungeons or any of that shit.

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>>112270964
and you wonder why you get no bitches

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>>112271565
Been a while since I got to dig out this meme... Probably older than half the board at this point.

>>112264025
I think the big problem is that management refuses for them to start from 0.
There's only so much you can do in same setting again.

>>112272097
What sucked was that it was an obvious alternate universe piece of fanfiction presented through a game instead of a cool adventure game set in an alternate universe made by a fan. The animations were cool because they had the girls presumedly telling their own stories how they wished to, to some degree. It was at least something they read and agreed to voice. But the rest of the gameplay had the girls not getting to tell their own stories. They were forced to play out someone else’s barely passable fanfiction roles instead of getting to complete their own narratives. That was most obvious this final day. The gameplay needs to come first. Engaging opportunities for the girls to build, interact, and create their own little narratives through competently built gameplay mechanics instead of grand fanfiction narratives should have been the focus.

The other thing is for a lot of fans ENreco completely kills everything else. EN already doesn't have the best streamers, ENreco is a week or more of just literally that and other streams usually fall by the wayside. Even if everyone in EN were amazing top tier RPers like Critical Role (and they aren't) a lot of people aren't watching Hololive for that.

>>112271565
>woman lied
no
fucking
WAY

>>112272236
>That was most obvious this final day.
You can tell Bae and IRyS were told to force the final day to start

>>112270964
>i hate [vtuber] because she reminds me of the normie mean girls that were mean to me in school
/vt/ in a nutshell

>>112272336
They were all being told to rush into the finale. Watch Ina’s point of view and you can see her just tab out to read directions. It’s most obvious when they are gathered before the tag match and she is bored out of her mind trying to break invisible blocks to at least try and fish like she wanted to on her final day. Did a single girl get to finish the stories they were trying to make for themselves this time around?

>>112272236
Like 90% of the streams are either doing the dungeons or just randomly killing Stains in a field for mats and money to progress the shit plot.

Enreco 4, if it happens at all at this point, is going to be even more demoralizing

>>112272408
That's everyone. Every plot points set up by the girls were all replaced by a dumb hode and seek and forced plot. No one like what they were forced to do

>>112272336
>>112272408
HoloGTA did this much better. Give the girls a world, some roles like medic, gangster, police, whatever and let them do their own stories. Whether it's robbery, running a bakery, a love drama, they'll just naturally create their own stories and it's a lot more watchable than Iyger's shit fanfic.

>>112272437
Who's even going to be left by that point?

They should collab with other corpos. The drama will be prime comedy

>>112272469
It's going to be an almost 1/1 repeat of 3. Advent is going to still be evil and the others aren't going to give a shit and will do nothing about it until they have to again.

>>112270964
CC is a normie that is really good at pretending to not be a normie, but her social behavior makes it very evident

>>112272469
Everyone again, it will be mandated, but no one will give a shit because they know it doesn't matter. It's just not Shiori, CC was heavily demoralized, I bet Raora is too

>>112272097
You're implying the writing was even made by a human, it was probably all AI generated

>>112272560
>CC is a normie that is really good at pretending to not be a normie
maybe normies fall for it, everyone with the slightest sense of pattern recognition knows

I didn't see a single post on Twitter about this year's Enreco. The other ones were pretty popular and there were a lot of posts about it, something did not work this time around.

>>112270964
Takanashi Kiara wrote this post

>>112272742
I saw more Tweets about Kiara's convention than about Enreco, kek.

>>112272761
I saw more tweets about how much she was working her throat than enreco

>>112272756
She is to busy pretending to be married to an orc to post right now.

>>112271565
Her fuckbuddy(cousin)(husband) was playing in her stead.

>>112272795
>>112272820
This board has literally only one insult left, huh

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>>112272820
Yeah Mococo

>>112272408
Were they not told that they will get railroaded in the last day? I feel like it could all have been handled better with just a bit of communication. I get that it’s nice to be able to go into things blind, but ultimately it’s a show for the viewers. Them being aware of what’s coming would have let them prepare and play into it better.

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>>112265271
>the only good members are the ones that act like literal children.

Pedophile spotted.

>>112264025
>this year

>>112272593
>You're implying the writing was even made by a human
It was written by Iyger who is a seanig so no I wasn't.

I don't know you guys, i'm having fun.
Starting with ERB pov, then i watch CC, then Biboo (because in the chapter before she used to spy on everyone and was so funny), then Shiori and Raora (this one really did a great job with the whole matrix stuff and wanna see how it ends).
If i have time i'd like to see Nerissa's POV too.

>>112273095
My nigga you need to get a job

>>112273095
I'm glad you enjoyed it anon, but personally I thought it was lackluster and given the reduced CCV on the channels, I think a lot of people did too.

>>112272742
The ending sucked but if you "didn't see a single post on Twitter about this year's Enreco", it must be your algorithm. I've seen a lot about Biboo, GG, Raora and Shiori's subplots.
Are you very Myth / Promise focused, per chance?

>>112273112
>muh CCV
ok numberfag

One thing that continues to surprise me is that they never released the mods to the public. I fully expected that to have been idea from episode one, where holoen plays through it, and then they made it available for the fund to play around in. Why aren’t they doing that? Feels like a waste for such a big cool mod to go under-utilised like that. And having people post about their own experiences in ENreco would have certainly made the whole event more popular.

>>112273417
it's because most of the things need a manager / admin behind to take care of bugs and problems.
The mods themselves are pretty scuffy, so unless they release them open source and someone actually fix the problems, it would be unplayable.

>>112273417
Brother it's a corporation, they won't make any of their shit available for the public for no reason just like that

>>112270868
>Gigi is trying to hard to appease everyone. I get that saying "yes, and
Look at it another way, though - Gigi was the only 'male' and also a knight - in other words, a literal White Knight.
She was thus mandated to agree with anything a woman said to her no matter how stupid or contradictory to what she was saying 15 seconds ago.

>>112273705
>She was thus mandated to agree with anything a woman said to her no matter how stupid or contradictory to what she was saying 15 seconds ago.
That's why it was a little bit amusing to me

>>112264025
it was never great, but this year too few people

>broken bonds
>blue woman and red woman immediately start rubbing each others clits in the first stream

>>112275364
As it should be

>>112264025
>company mandated event is boring
Who would've thought!

>>112264025
>this year

>>112275421
the worst part is that it won't change a bit for part 4 because japanese corporate autism dictates that if something was even marginally succesful you need to repeat it the same way and never innovate

>>112273012
>Blue woman
You first, faggot.

>>112264025
I hate this fucking ENReco thing so much, fuck it!
to me enreco is always "that thing" I have to wait to end so I can start having fun again

>>112264400
KEK

>>112270303
LOL
LMAO

>>112264025
what old spark the whole thing has always been boring, you only watch for the brief moments of them fucking around of character

>>112265760
EN isn’t for you then you are not the target audience Bae is half JP

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>>112264025
Other people have said it, but the cast was smaller this year due to people leaving, and from the talent pool thats still here, multiple members were MIA for most of the event. And in something that's supposed to be an big event the more talents you have at play, the better things can turn out since you have more people to bounce off of (This is assuming the people there are good at roleplaying but that's beside the point)

There was a rough but appealing charm from the first two ENReco's because it was the first time doing something like this, and alot of people by now decided that watching all the talents roleplay as characters in Minecraft just isn't appealing to them (let's be honest, this isn't something that's for everyone and a modded Minecraft map is not the best sandbox for roleplaying with a small number of players, or the most thrilling to watch from an audience perspective). There's a whole genre of videos called "Minecraft Civilization Experiments" in where people for factions, claim territory, make rivalries, deceive each other etc. People roleplay in those too, but they have the benefit of a even looser framework and a large number of people to screw around with, often hundreds, and when a player dies they're gone from the story forever, so there's lasting consequence. ENReco is limited in scope and scale, so you can't have too many long lasting consequences like Perma Death (Unless Kiara just can't be there outside of the 1st day), so the Roleplay has to carry it. (Less than thrilling gameplay is also a reason people won't tune in)

For everyone that loves Raora's Matrix arc, Sad Gonathon, Shiori's Cult, or ERB's submissiveness to Nerissa , there's like two or three people that see nothing but the lame downtime in between the good parts where you can tell the player is feeling bored, or the Roleplay between two people just isn't clicking or entertaining . What hurts everyone is the Main Story is works as a decent skeleton to follow, but it never connects to anything that the girls are actually doing or cooking up with the roleplay, and by the final day it railroads all of them into one ending, where, we all know that everyone's choice won't mean anything because the guys behind the scenes are woefully underprepared and won't take everyone's choices or actions into account.

I'll say it again, Minecraft isn't the most thrilling game for all of this to take place in, and the creative minds behind ENReco aren't thinking big either since the final challenges are hitting a monster over and over again where death has no consequence, easy parkour, and a giant game of tag that got boring and was NOT playtested well (They were going to keep playing tag until Advent lost)

That's what hurts ENReco the most for the people that are into it. The thing that excites the audience is the roleplay and story arcs they come up with, but the status quo is not allowed to be broken, and the Main Story doesn't care about what the girls do, and actively ignores all of it so everyone can end up in the same room. So you watch multiple perspectives for "?" whatever many days straight, getting through the down time and low moments, liking the good parts and then it all leads up to...well, nothing.

Every Chapter ends with a cliffhanger indicating that something big is going to happen, but then flashforward a year later and they will be neighbors again, doing the same menial tasks like farming or killing mobs in the wild again, everyone still working towards the same goal, still locked in a modded Minecraft world that they can't break or destroy, and apparently aren't allowed to have Lava buckets. People picked up that this year it would just be more of the same and it's making them tune out. In any other TTRPG or something similar, a Game Master or Story Master would take into account what all the players are doing and try and make it work, or throw a wrench into things to make it mmore interesting, but they have no idea how to do that.

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I fucking hate CC so much. Stupid bitch is too happy, too outgoing, too extroverted.

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>>112276714
>CC
>too happy

>>112272236
You should go back and watch what happens at the end of the first dungeon with CC and GG. I'm sure you'll get a laugh out of it.

>>112276714
That's because she's a normie stacy

>>112276632
>multiple members were MIA for most of the event
i guess 2 is technically multiple (IRyS and Kiara). otherwise, the majority of the girls were there for every single day, with Kronii, CC, Ina, and biboo missing one day and Calli missing 2 days. i just kept seeing people saying "members kept skipping out" and wanted to point out that wasn't entirely accurate.

the rest of this post is spot on with my issues with EnReco though, which is why I've only really watched it through clips since like day 2 of the first one. the only good bits are almost never actually related to what the corpo team cooked up in game and almost always those bits ruin whatever good bits the girls come up with.

fuck, the 7 days to die arc brought out better RPing opportunities for the girls than the vast majority of EnReco, and RPing wasn't even dictated for that.

>>112272097
Lyger was the one writing this season? Never knew that. Explains why it was so shit.

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>>112277195
And he was pissed too.

>>112277511
and heres the biggest difference between holoGTA or other Holo girl made event, no stupid ass script made by some fag

>>112267835
Some antis think that if you don't blindly consume whatever shit cover puts on your plate then you're obviously a nijisister.
Reco sucked, the plot the girls had was much better and more amusing, forcing people into some gay script was just not fun.

>>112276632
>there's like two or three people that see nothing but the lame downtime in between the good parts where you can tell the player is feeling bored
Spot on. This chapter was particularly egregious for it I felt.

>>112273095
>wanna see how it ends
That's the thing, you never will because retarded lyger had to force all of the girls to cut their personal RP short to play fake SCRIPTED hide and go week where they were told to sandbag and when they didn't lyger got pissed at advent.

>>112276632
I hate that everything has to reset and start and end at exactly the place lyger wrote. He said it wasn't possible to do branching paths, well why not? If the RP system you're doing doesn't allow for any changes and adjustments on the fly then it's complete bullshit and it isn't an RP server it's people playing your shitty fanfic story mode minecraft server. The only inputs should be the setting, and maybe the dungeons and videos if you insist on having those as shared experiences (but fuck the puzzles do something else). You should not be giving anyone a script.

If you insist on a script, then have scheduled "events" at set times that people can participate in or can ignore. Don't give them freedom only to force them into your retarded shit that wouldn't pass a middle school english class. It's better when there's invisible staff members doing stuff like spawning items and manipulating the world and not lyger screaming in discord that the talents need to read his script and blaming them for people not liking his FLAWLESS ending.

We all know he'll never change because people like that are stuck in their ways and always think they know better. If someone criticizes, it's because they're misunderstanding so they double triple down to "prove you wrong" and it ends up a disaster. He needed to have been cut off from the project after season 2, and certainly after this disaster. I can't see talents agreeing to even participate next time if that loser is still in charge of it all.

>>112279977
>that spoiler
Bro you skipped the whole ERB part

Amidst the obvious trolls and bait there's a surprising amount of really good feedback in this thread. I hope you all are sending your thoughts to Cover.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdhoB7Vv-MOW_likVaczdgfCiAeEDi-WdS_Ff4fDQU8thBTZw/viewform

>>112276632
>For everyone that loves Raora's Matrix arc, Sad Gonathon, Shiori's Cult, or ERB's submissiveness to Nerissa , there's like two or three people that see nothing but the lame downtime in between the good parts where you can tell the player is feeling bored, or the Roleplay between two people just isn't clicking or entertaining .
This. Clip compilations leave that out. For every few minutes of kino, there's at least an HOUR of the Holo just killing stains to grind money.

>>112281463
But I want holo EN to shutter.

>lyger
First time I've heard of this creature, unless I just forgot about him. I like how his ineptitude and central role is giving him a reputation like Omega's.

>>112283265
I remember he used to make Matsuri clips but that was like five years ago.

>>112264025
>old thing you like.v3
Sequels are never as good as the originals. Especially 3. Valve know what they are doing.

>>112277511
maybe his script was so shit they couldn't bother with it

>>112283265
>First time
He's Matsuri's crazy fan. He made the bandaids clip. He also did a bunch of out of pocket shit which you can look up if you just search his name in archives.

>>112280130
>it's people playing your shitty fanfic story mode minecraft server
This and I hate it.

>>112271057
The one time people fell into the hole she kicked them out thou'??

Everything since 2024 has been very boring. And 2024 was a poor man's 2021. Each new "hype cycle" is less impressive than the last.

>>112277511
the tag minigame should have been a mid-week dungeon thing, that influences the rest of the week.
But instead we get a "forced ending" finale that leads to LITERALLY
FUCKING
NOTHING

>>112283900
The concert stuff from that year, Capture the Moment, Breaking Dimensions and Shark City were some of the greatest things to come out of Hololive period, but it's true, everything rapidly went downhill beyond that point.

>>112264025
enreco has always sucked ass and now with less people it sucks even more

>>112264025
last years was dogshit even the talents themselves wanted to forget about it. this years was way more natural feeling and they felt like they actually wanted to be there this time didnt feel like they were trying too hard with the dumb lore forced on them like last years. I was actually able to sit through entire streams this year even ERB was tolerable this year

>>112284597
Nah, chapter one was kino.

>>112264025
EnReco would have been better as a manga or audio drama that the talents helped co-write, rather than some RP event,

>>112276632
BROWN BRICKS

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>>112285101
>gura
>mumei
>fauna
>ame

>>>>kino

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>>112286135
yes

>>112286135
The things that makes it kino is that Justice was new to the roster and it was fun to see them immediately forced to RP with senpais they barely knew. For example Tam and Lady bloodflame bickering day one was amazing, you couldn't see that coming from miles away, they're forced to be someone they're not and go wild with it and there's a novelty in there.
I do hope we get EN5 for chapter 4 but that's probably not going to happen.

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I never watched a single ENReco stream. Is there any archive with every stream in order that I can use to watch from the beginning?

>>112277511
Wow, that is deeply upsetting. Someone should send this and logs of that entire Discord server to Cover, hopefully gets him blacklisted.

>>112287605
It's not worth it.
Just find a single Pov to follow then look for clips

All I remember is colour wheel gambling.

None of this captures the soul of the sports festival or summer festival events where the girls interact however they want and you could enjoy the moments without keeping track of what is going on.
At this point I see ENRECO, I skip.
The absolute biggest difference however is that the algorithmn is not feeding me clips to make be care about it. It's not the same being told what happens, I want highlights of the events. If the algo is not feeding me clips, I assume there is nothing worth caring about.

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>Guardian of Civilization dies
>enreco civilization decays into anarchy
Bravo Vince.

>>112273095
Personally I had a blast

>>112264025
It was going well up until the dumbfuck hide and seek shit

>>112280945
What?

>>112288968
KOJIMBO DID IT AGAIN

>>112286135
What is it with Blue Woman posters being incredibly retarded and having piss poor taste?

>>112291067
They oshi Kronii, so that goes without saying.

>>112289111
Well, obviously. As that was the point of no return where the girl's rp plots could no longer be resolved.

>>112292990
What is the point of your reply

>>112292990
Where exactly were the plots going? They were all blocking each other from progressing way before the Tom and Jerry ahh mini game.

>>112264025
They need more writers and more structure to force them to stay on task because they obviously can't do it themselves.

Shiori sounded super pissed in the finale, like not acting just genuinely upset, what actually was that about?

>>112296550
Her plot was better and got cut for this garbage finale

>>112272783
Lol qrd?

>>112277511
I don't follow the corpo side much, who is this fag and why does he get to "write" the plot they follow?

>>112281679
This, the roleplay really slaughters the chat banter that makes normal game grinding content still potentially fun, so grinding is terrible content in ameteur RP.

>>112296575
What was her plot, all I heard was just the evil church exists and she memory wiped people.

>>112297112
Yeah that was basically it kek. She wanted to have the spotlight for the finale but the dumb bitch memory wiped anyone that found out so no shit people weren't talking about it.

>>112264025
>it’s underwhelming this year
You guys say that every year

>>112296550
She was mad nobody cared about her convoluted edgy bs, and the actual plot got in the way of her being center of attention

>barely anybody except CC streamed today
Yeah, they immediately went and got shitface drunk after this debacle was over.

>>112296550
She realised all her coworkers are unironically adhd riddled autists who can't focus on anything for longer than 30 seconds without devolving into yelling over the top of each other. Combined with how ass the actual lore story was and I can't blame her for being pissed off

>>112264025
Because it's a public company now, and they are forcing top down things. Nothing is organically happening and that's killing the entire company.

Just as going public destroyed the games industry so will do to vtubers.

>>112273012
>pedophilia is liking adult women

can you just leave?

So what was Shiori’s plan exactly? Did she talk it over with the others or just expected everyone to drop their plots and investigate hers for the finale instead

>>112297646
>>112296550
No one will talk about it, but she was also pissed that no one gave a fuck about Kiara being dead.

>>112298082
She didn't have one, she's a woman

Enreco was overblown from the beginning. It should've been a one-off event.

>>112298102
She is a phoenix though. Dying and coming back to life is pretty much what they do.

>>112298190
you know this isn't why they don't care

>>112298120
An autistic woman at that

>>112286278
EHEHE FAUNA MAAAART SO FUNNY WEEEUUUU
never heard anything funny about this anyway, you just post it pretending was something kino.

>>112298223
Same reason nobody even mentioned Irys or noticed she was gone the entire week.

>>112298102
>>112298223
But kfp told me and kiara that her corpse played a central role this chapter and everyone loved it,???

>>112298190
The only one i heard bringing this up was ERB, but this because nobody actually believed her being a Phoenix.
Indeed even ERB's character started to doubt it when she weren't coming back.

This happens when you write off a character and everyone already knows it, plus they know she will come back next season. It happened to a DnD campaign too i was playing where one player just didn't want to play anymore and decided to make his character die

It's strange how Korone's unprompted wedding plan event on the final day of HoloGTA turned out to be successful where all the girls willingly attend and actually care meanwhile in ENReco majority of the girls really didn't give a fuck about the trial that Shiori put so much effort into creating

>>112298339
It depends on the plan.
In ENreco 2, everyone attended to Roa's and Shakira's marriage.
Also you're really comparing someone big and influencing as Korone with Shiori.

>>112298339
>>112298372
I know you are in part hating on Shiori, but I need you to realize that the girls were on board with Shiori's plan, which is why everyone deflated so much when Promise was told to interrupt it.

>>112298339
RPing trials are a huge pain in the ass. Especially when its lighthearted RP and nobody is trying to be serious except one or two.

>>112298440
>i know you are in part hating on Shiori
No? I actually like her. I watch her, she's funny.
I was just saying you cannot compare Korone and Shiori in terms of influence.

>>112298339
>>112298474
A huge part of the problem was that everyone was talking over each other so it was hard to get anything done
CC was so overstimulated she actually breathed a sigh of relief after everyone fucked off

>>112298102
What do you mean? People all gathered for her assisted suicide, then visited her grave a couple times, then paraded her corpse around. Like what more did she want exactly? Can’t expect everyone to just ignore their own roleplay and plotlines and instead focus on something seemingly resolved.

>>112298558
RPing with 15 main characters has got to be exhausting

>>112298082
>or just expected everyone to drop their plots
nobody else other than raora even had a plot this season

>>112298716
>he forgot about ERB gettuing slowly corrupted by Nerissa

thank god enreco 4 will be the last season. right? RIGHT?

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>>112299379
>enreco 4 ends
>THE END
>...
>???
>Holo EN gen 6 announced
>ENreco 5 Announced
You will never escape from the Curse.

>they pronounce it "ee en recco"
wtf I always pronounce it like the name "enrico" in my head

>>112299753
its gobbledygook anyway so dont sweat it

Shiori getting pissy that nobody gave a fuck about her dumb trial was peak

>>112302654
Stop spamming this. Or at least change up the wording some. It's against the rules.

>>112298082
She thought she could make everything about her, and that she was the mastermind behind all Enreco. Nobody cared or entertained her

actually which of the character plots even went anywhere? I feel like they all kinda meandered along and then fizzled out at the end without any real conclusions

>>112303367
Shiori kept hijacking them so none

>>112297959
...she just now found that out?

>>112297029
One of the early clipper, mostly about Matsuri and helped her boost her numbers. She made him a mod on her channel and occasionally works with cover now. A fans wet dream.

>>112298281
it was an actual roleplay, something sorely lacking in enreco3. No, talking in a memey dialect except when you feel like not doing it is not a roleplay. Not a single girl committed to a role and took it seriously this time, even Shiori straight up abandoned her role to complain and seethe in the corner for the finale.

>>112264438
Driving a few girls insane and murder raping them at their altar isn't evil?
The dogs just kinda threw a wrench in

>>112298339
What effort? There was seemingly no evidence and no actual trial. It was literally just "we used magic and found out the advent girls are evil and one must have killed Shakira" and then people talking over each other until the killer confessed, and then people talking over each other as if the killer did not confess. Irys even approached biboo and tried going "I found out you're the killer with magic" as if she didn't fucking confess already. Magic is not evidence, it is an ass pull, the trial was set dressing because there was no actual trial.

>>112298440
Why are they railroaded so hard to begin with? Promise couldn't say "fuck off, we're doing an actual good plot first and we'll take the time out of the nearly hour of tag later"?

>>112298757
That isn't a plot, it was just a character background. Plots require actions to take place. She's evil, so what, so are that advent girls who are actually doing things.

>>112305063
I guess they could have, but management would have chewed them and they thought it wasn't worth it.
The whole shitshow was a chain of poor decisions, like just having an ending video like chapter 2 did would have made things a lot better because at least we would have felt like there was a purpose

>>112297959
Sounds rough for the designated rage baiter or whatever her ol shtick is

>>112306619
She's le quirk chingis granny that has been streaming way longer than myth and eats with scissors instead of a fork

>>112305063
Because if you don't, you have 14 different players with adhd and main character syndrome with 14 different plots going in 14 different directions. Someone has to keep them on track or they aren't getting anywhere.

>shitty corporate-forced roleplay
>not fun
oh

>>112307881
instead we have that but also none of the players or fans are satisfied because we're watching them forced to act out fanfiction instead of what they actually want to do

Do hololive fans even like their vtubers?

>>112264025
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>>112264400
>samefagging nijinigger

>>112307881
>main character syndrome
They are waisting their time on this project that could be used to solostream. It should be expected that they all get their time to shine in it.

>>112264025
minecraft just sucks

>>112305063
Managers have to justify their job. People shit on the girls if they don't do any prep work, but managers don't WANT them to be too prepared so they can tell them what to do.

>>112264025
enWHOco?

>>112264025
It was better than season 2.