legendary flop
Mint would do so much better alone, its a bit sad ngl...
>>112313913Don't worry Mint will turn on the bots soon enough ;)
>>112313913sorry i havent watched vtubers in a while, what the fuck is densetsu? did mint form a group? i thought she had a whole thing going with doki and shit.
I hope Pheobe is doing well. Keep going idol girl.
i just don't understand how this happens. mint regularly gets 3-5k alone. do the other 2 bring literally nothing to the table?
>>112314336Why do you hate vicky?
>>112314373Phoebe had a whole documentary about her IRL and of course she more or less wants to be an idol. I don't know about the blonde. Mint isn't using her fans to her advantage.
>>112314423>Phoebe had a whole documentary about her IRLbut why? who asked for this?
Could not care less about densetsu
>>112313913>3k>flopMeanwhile FWMC averaged 1,692 CCV in May 2026
>>112314544Vshoujo incident. Basically a discussion on vtubers and how corpos can be shit. She actually comes out as herself and describes how she was trying to make it.
>6 monthsUnironically thought it had been a year.Victoria is okay Mint is whatever. Phoebe is the one being carried by the other two.
>>112314321Doki isn't going to do idol stuffs with Mint more than an event now and then. DensetsuEXE is Mint's full time VTuber idol group
>>112314373Victoria is Mori and Mint's friend and Mint needs backup dancers for her idol group.>>112314544>aging millennial woman spends her entire youth since 2008 trying to fail upwards into her dreamIt is a mystery
>>112314704Kinda sad tbdesuIdolshit has virtually no demand in the West and any chance of it doing so imploded with vshojo. But it's ok as long as they are having fun
>>112314631Use their 6 month anniversary stream for a proper comparison
>>112314789HoloEN still do well and for indies, Mint is, too.If anything, I'd argue that "idolshit"'s demand in the West has been rising given that we've seen more indies concerts in the last few years and the bigger ones mostly either sold out or came close to.
>>112314789That's what I thought. Western men don't really like female artists all that much. It's seen as a feminine thing to be in. Western women are also pretty hateful of asian women too so there is that working against her. Only people here actually understand the culture enough to appreciate it.
>>112314862Well with the introduction and popularity of K-pop, people are becoming more aware of the culture. J-pop has a way to go but where it gets it's fame is from anime which is now preferred entertainment medium in the West.
>>112314862>idol concert demand is on the ri...
>>112314829Jesus Christ, is that state of EN?Not even AZKi gets numbers that bad, unless it's some sponsored shit
>>112315026>idol concert demand is on the ri.Yes.https://sponsa.app/eonia/current-goals/46e249c64248
>>112315078we are talking about big boy concerts at venues, not indies who have their whales pay for shit.
>>112315026Sure, there are flops, but those from OshiParks or Fantastic Reality with Mint / Doki / IM / Nimi / Dooby / etc. (or some combinations of them) still did well - either sold out or almost sold out.That's more than what indie scene has ever achieved before
>>112315120They did the very first venue concert in the US ever
>>112315078If demand was real, they wouldn't be having to crowdfund it. Companies would be paying to work with them>>112315136>or some comboit is always a combo of the same girls and given that fantastic reality 2 is not even close to selling out, i would suggest people are getting fatigued with idol stuff
>>112315057Just FWMC and their decline. Biboo still gets her 10K now and then>not even AZKiAre you still living in the past, anon? Present AZKi does pretty well. She is solidly above average among Holo (around level of Korone or Mio) when it comes to CCV
>>112314829>the entirety of advent together: 6k>an ex-niji and two 2views: 3kNot the gotcha you think it is
>>112315161and? you want a cookie? how did that work out for their company?
>>112315256That's not the entirely of Advent. That's just FWMC. It was a multi-PoV collab
>>112315078>10 people have accounted for $25,000 of the $30k raisedwhat demand lmao
idol concert fatigue is real and it is being felt
>>112315449Is it? Densetsu's concert sold out in a few minutes
>>112315449Well in the 2D space it is way over saturated with iM@S and Love Live. I knew something was wrong when the successive generations were getting fewer and fewer views. 3D idols are probably as pervasive as the garage band. Vtubing is even getting too many newcomers.
>>112315500yes, but it is being run concurrent with offkai and is relied on traffic of vtuber fans already going to offkaifantastic reality 2 has been a disaster this year, holo's concert is slow etcunless you are doing stuff around the vtuber con, you shit is not selling out this year
>>112315575FR and Serendipity are running concurrently with Anime Expo, the biggest anime convention in the west (100k+ attendees)
>>112315636only a small % of anime fans are vtuber fansvtuber cons are vtuber fans. every person going to that is a vtuber fan.
>>112315636are densetsu doing fantastic reality 2?if so>their concert on offkai weekend sold out>the concert they are in AX weekend is nowhere close to selling outmakes you think
>>112315721Densetsu aren't doing a concert at FR/AX. They will be guests at Matara's concert for one song
>>112314869If you wanna be a female pop idol and appeal to western men you have to do something cool and sexy like the pussycat dolls. Frilly kawaii shit just does not work here. I think she’d probably have more success going for a cookieswirl thing and making a kids channel that appealed to little girls since she’s pretty seiso.
>>112315256>6k/5=1200>3k/3=1000Your point is moot
>>112315981I remember wanting so bad to like the Spice Girls. I actually liked their music too. Come to think about it I never seen another girl group ever again after that.
>>112316035>When you are so number monkey you literally act like the Holo buff never existedYour bread literally stopped being a page 1 permanence because it’s all Holo.
>>112313913Idols outside Japan will just never, ever work. I know she's doing really well as an indie but she should join EN6 since she clearly loves that idolshit just like Kiara
>>112316035>the full might of the #1 vtubing corpo, streaming on their main channel>vs an ex-niji and two 2views, streaming on a secondary group channelThose numbers shouldn't be that close
>>112315575Don't know enough to talk about FR2, but>holo's concert is slow etcThis is only true if you are talking strictly about percentage sold compared to last year (because this year venue is bigger). However, they already sold more tickets than last year
>>112314869Western women are fucking pathetic.>ignore average dudes to chase chad for years>average dudes date asian girls>western women mad now because that was supposed to be their backup plan
>>112314321>i thought she had a whole thing going with doki and shit.Doki and Mint are friends, not business partners. Doki finds singing fun and does her own concerts, but it's not the crux of her brand.Basically Mint formed an idol group with two friends and they've been pumping out songs and performances. They're pretty focused on idolshit and have been actually selling extremely well for their live shows. All of them have sold out ridiculously quickly regardless of the venue
>>112314704Oh that's how she latched onto IRyS
>>112314862Depends on your definition of idolshit. Westerners love concerts, but I'd be hard pressed to say cutesy jpop-style concerts specifically are on the rise. Rock, Metal, etc. are usually what people think of when they think of concerts here.
>>112317146>IrysWhat? I don't remember any connection between Victoria or Mint and Irys
>>112315026Why don't vtubers use the pepper's ghost illusion instead of this "watch a regular karaoke stream but at a venue" shit? If we could have Miku holograms in 2012 why not vtubers?
I really dont care those nobodies next to Mint
>>112316304Your intuition is correct. When you take the combined CCV for that Advent collab, the "full might" becomes 23k—mogging a 3k stream by a huge margin.
>>112314631Mintfags being Holo antis. What else is new?
>>112313913Flopsetsu KWAB
>>112317435we can but it's rare
>>112317497>mintfags
>mint does literally anything>infinity seething from /vt/Why is this? Surely the Nijifags must have gotten over her by now right?
>>112317497You are the only thing obvious here.NIJISEETHE.
>>112317489>Completely missing the point and prvoung the person correctYou must be from the prt of the world that doesn’t wash.
Oh hey they have streaming tickets for the concert now
>>112314336She'd be doing better if she was the blue frog and not fleshposting
>>112315636But are they a part of AX itself? Or do you need to leave the venue to go to a different part of LA to go to the concert? If so that sounds like a huge pain in the ass without factoring in all the other shit that would be going on that weekend
>>112314375I find it grating when an english speaking vtuber uses a singular japanese word as a vocal tic. Vicky's 'naruhodo' or Mori's 'yatta' for example.Also she should shut the fuck up about Sonic.
>>112319346That sounds like a nightmare. LA already has bad traffic and it took me 3 hours to cross it last time I was there. I can't imagine having to venue hop just to catch some one time events going on. I wonder why they didn't want to go to AX, maybe the fees are high?
>>112319596>she should shut the fuck up about Sonic.Shut up, Eggman
>>112319641CURSE YOU SONIC QUIT REPLYING TO MY POSTS
>>112313913I'm a fan of Mint that has zero interest in Densetsu but ultimately I wish them all the best. I enjoy her gaming streams and listening to her nerding out over her hobbies (including idols) more than the dream of becoming an idol herself. I'm sure that would upset some of the more unhinged uber fans but I don't really care.
>>112313913vshojo whores btfo
>>112316598Western women's backup plan was dating asian women?
>>112319346>without factoring in all the other shit that would be going on that weekend4TH OF FUCKING JULY THERE'S A MILLION OTHER THINGS GOING ON
>>112314869>Western men don't really like female artists all that much.It depends on the music genre but yes, many female pop artists tend to have mostly females interested in their music. And the flip side of the coin is while guys might be more interested in a (for example) rock concert than a pop concert, everything that's not pop, country, or rap seems kinda dead. Some wisp tell Mint to lean way harder into the jazz angle or something.>jazz has been ultra-giga-dead for like 60 yearsYeah well it's worth a shot.
>>112320071Clearly people don't love their oshi as much as they thought if they aren't willing to brave the US' busiest airport terminal on the 4th of July weekend.Guess the idol dream is dead.....
>>112313913Holy flop kek
Mint is boring
>>112321519How dare you, brb redubbing all your voice work
>>112317428IRyS randomly followed her and she showed up in her chats
>>112321903That sounds more like Irys latching on to her
>>1123139133k seems pretty good for non-Holo english vtubers
>>112321932IRyS is at the top % of all chuubas so that's just ridiculous, she just followed her back after a Mori dinner party.
>>112313913holobrown seethe thread
>>112322061Irys didn't have to follow her.Irys didn't have to show up in her chats.Sounds more like Irys is the one latching on.
>>112322125Anon the indie is in her chats
>>112314321Mint and those two other girls were supposed to join Vshojo as a full on music focused idol unit. And then "that" happened. You know, the Vshojo thing. The problem is that the other two are kind of a flop but Mint is too nice to tell them to fuck off, so now she is feeding two 2 views with her own income.
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>>112323040>mint should tell her friends to fuck offAre you fags legit psychos? 3 woman want to sing and dance together. They tried to form a corpo idol group through Vshojo and it didn't work. So they just said fuck it and do it themselves. Even if they don't reach the numbers/heights they would with corporate backing, they just want to live their dream.
KILL ALL NUMBERMONKEYS
>>112323040*Mint and two of the ex-holos
>>112323846Phoebe and Victoria are ex-Holos? Who did they use to be?
>>112313913# fags should be contained, it's no wonder this board died
>>112315026I was at dokomi and I didn't even know there was a stage? I just knew of the black area and hall 9 dance area lol
>>112323864Hitomi Chris and , former 6th Council member
>>112323864Omega and Vesper
