Actual question for her 'husbands': Did you feel betrayed when she did her anti-parasocial stuff? Or was it not as bad as I remember, and people just schizoed out?
>parasocial fans buy her a new house>she discards thema tale as old as time
>>112336808It seemed like a compassionate move. Not one a grifter would make. the schizo unicorn backlash really just proved her point, that it was bad for people and she should stop.
>>112339025This thread wasn't for you, but I guess all the husbands are asleep. She did the GFE for an extremely long time and dropped it right after getting a massive amount of money probably the definition of grifting.
>>112336808it feels like when your gf breaks up with you but doesn't fucking leave your house.
>>112340790Did you notice anything before she decided to drop the bomb? was she more distant?
>>112340636found one.
its been like 8 months
>husbandsLMAOOOO
>>112341243Not that guy, but she did comment about hating being a known as a GFE streamer and a bit more in a server watchalong that got leaked (you can probably find it in the archive) the signs were there but most decided to ignore it, personally i still love her but never fooled myself into beliving our "relationship" was ever real.
>>112339025She walked it back within like 2 days though. It's the opposite of compassionate, it was a roller-coaster. The LLD was compassionate because it was final.
Chicken died for this...
I never considered the relationship real but I took it just as serious as she did. I feel betrayed because she lead me on and then gave up. I still care about and love her but I don't feel obligated to chat or interact with her anymore.
>>112345451Why continue loving and supporting a gigantic rugpull? You're better than that. You can live better than that.
>>112341243Shondo loves talking about other vtubers relationships with men since it gets her a lot of brownie points with lonely men. The one exception was when Nimi did it. Instead she watched closely, saw everyone celebrate it, saw she only dropped a minimal amount of views and still made bank. When it was all settled she then said she supported Nimi. Shortly after her fan service dropped off a clip and in retrospect she was planning on how to divorce her paypigs in a way to make sure they kept donating.
>>112345709based, i love her so much it's unrealher pay pigs deserve worse than what she will give them btw iykyk the only reason they keep paying is because they keep getting what they want, they're not being lead on except for her more casual fans which typically don't have that kind of relationship with her in the first place
>>112345760>they keep paying is because they keep getting what they want, they're not being lead onTrvke, and they think they are the ones controlling her
>>112342155I believed in the relationship as much as she did, but during that discord stream I realized it was the beginning of the end, and it ended up being the end of any affection from her. That's why the divorce just seemed like an obvious thing that needed to happen, but she chose to do it right before Christmas like she wanted it to hurt people.
What is worse in your book OP: A girl like Shondo who pretended to love her fans and milked their wallets dry before officially dumping themOr a girl like Shiina who accidently admitted to having a bf but still gives GFE every stream and pretends she loves her fans and is grateful they help support her bills since she's 'alone'Both are lying to lonely losers for money but they both have a different approach.
>>112345831That sounds like hindsight desu. If you all knew it was near the end why did you all blow the gates off her donothon so she could buy a house outright with no mortgage? What kind of simp buys his exwife a house before he's got a new wife with one?
>>112345920>no mortgageShe has a mortgage on the house. She's still my oshi just not my internet wife.
>>112345920she has a 40 year mortgage and she says the down payment and all that cost her most of her life savings to the point she's "broke" which i imagine for her family of like 6 or 7 means she had less than 20k in the bank
>>112345995>>112345996My bad then I always heard the house being bought as such a massive deal I assumed she took care of the mortgage too.
Can any Anon fill me up if you are in the mood(or bored I guess)?Only thing I know is that she went to the shrink which recommended her to take distance from you guys.(sorry to say, pretty typical stuff)I only watch Shondo casually every so often, I think she is pretty good at at technical level at creating and managing her brand as an indie cretor but I never liked things like she much she overshared about herself so I was never at any point serious about her. I am too much of an unicorn for that.
>Trusting Shondo's wordsShe used to say she was a virgin that's never been on a date before people scraped up these old tweets. Everything she says is primmed to trigger lonely paypiggies.
>>112346056>fill me upwell, if you're gonna beg...it's not confirmed her shrink had anything to do with that, just something seething groomers conjured up as cope
>>112345831i dont think she ever belived that it was an actual relationship, she did liked the attention as by her own words we were "rebounds" because she broke with her ex boyfriend, i'm not gonna lie, playing husband and wife with her was nice, i still love and watch her streams as she still is my dear oshi, i think that discord stream (and the actual divorce stream) didnt hit me as hard because due to my reality and her reality its simply impossible for an ACTUAL relationship between us to happen, the divorce was ultimately a good thing in the end (could have been handled better) we as viewers should seek actual fruitfull relationships instead of living in this world of fantasy.
>>112336808She has decided that is okay to strip everything that made everything about her unique and sold herself as "someone different" just to become the exact thing she used to make fun of, while also demanding even more money from her fans while continuing to take away anything she used to do which gave her audience a feeling of comfort or love. She became pretty horrible.
>>112345847what does Shania have to do wit this
>>112336808Asmongold of vtubing right here!!
>>112346713Her house is covered in filth roaches and maggots? How does a bitch live like that.
>>11234599667
>>112345996>40 year mortgage>not buying house in full>spent more on down payment than the average house cost in LondonO so shes just retarded
>>112346153if people never dug this up she never would have admitted it
>>112346644exactly this. i never feel any comfort or love from her anymore so she's no different than anyone else so i left.
>>112346153having a bf doesnt mean you've had sex
>>112347567he's a complete retard posting low effort bait. he's done this for years pretending those tweets were some hidden thing people had to dig up when it's very clearly on her main twitter and she has been open about her bf since day 1. people like to just claim she hid it because she didn't do a PSA about it when it was completely irrelevant by time she became a vtuber. average bad faith bait.
>>112347428Her admission was her tweeting about it constantly back when she had a bf. Husbands who did their reps (which she encourages doing) knew. No one wanted her to begin her gfe streams with a disclaimer that she had a bf, but she mentioned it from time to time, especially during her first donothon when she wanted to make it clear to all the people giving her money she had one in the past.
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>>112347567If having a manager means they're her bf, then having a bf means they've had sex. Them's the rules, I don't make 'em.
>>112336808I quit following her after she destroyed the first community. Sometimes I still watch her when our schedules align. People have been complaining that she’s been neglecting them lately, but the truth is that started years ago, they just didn’t want to see it. The only thing I miss about her is how friendly she used to be with everyone at first. It was nice to chat with her, but even that’s over now. I guess I’m just not made to follow big VTubers.
>>112346153why does every version of this image I see now cut off the bottom where the guys says>he sure is!
>>112345847Shiina's approach is better. One of Shondo's excuses for dropping live ASMR is that she "gets too tired" after an hour. She is literally just too lazy to keep pretending she cares and the majority of her stream regulars loved her live ASMR and she was well known for it.
>>112349556>t. one of the minority of stream regulars (groomer) who is seething antiing her
>>112349678it's really funny because it's just these posts confirmed lmao, she has known regulars who make bait threads exactly like this too>>112345760>>112345829
>>112349731We know you made them, yes.
All "husbands" are unironic cucks who are happy pay for her condoms
>>112336808She's inspired me since i've known her to pursue interests and hobbies i never would have thought of. Not only that, but her life feels like battle after battle and it feels inspiring to see her come back year after year. Being able to call her wife is nice but realistically it is an anime girl on the internet and i feel like i catered my expectations accordingly. I'm still going to call her my wife because i think its fun and it adds a little extra omph to my otherwise uneventuful life. Other than that i think the boundries she set are more than fair considering the amount of mental cases she's had to put up with.
MALE on streeeEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAM
>>112354296She calls her fans husbands. It wasn’t one side she wanted those people
>>112354598She calls her fans shondophrenics. You didnt have to be a husband if you didnt want to be, hence why theres "imouto duaghter wife". That being said the fanbase consisting of lonley adult males would want to call themselves husbands.She admitted that she had no clue thats what she was getting herself into when she chose to be a wife. Actions met consequences when her name got bigger and bigger and drawing in schizo after schizo.
It's funny to think she either did this because she is a genuine pedogrifter like Pippa or that Null's sperging really got to her. Even found out she was a Kiwi
>>112354742You are acting like this was some sudden thing, lol. She deliberately targeted these people; she isn’t some ignorant girl that accidentally pandered for 5 years to an audience she was uncomfortable with. This is insane.
If you don't want your oshi to grow she isn't your oshi. >>112354296Based
>>112347567>>112347667What about the part she lied about never being on a date retards? Did she date him for months without going on a date? How does this girl milk your wallet dry then divorce you and you still cope for her on 4chan?
>>1123585636 7
>>112358563>567>667>563you lost, chud
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>>112336808it wasn't. there are just a lot of people that hate her so anything she says that is even remotely controversial gets signal boosted and misconstrued by her fanatic antis.
>>112340636>Grifting Lol.
was actively around for few years, was halfway out the door already due to how much things had changed since I started watching by the time of her melty rant during discord movie night pre valentines. I wish her the best and I will cherish the fun times but nushondo isn't for me. Gigantic cope if you didn't see it coming
>>112346153>>112347428dude, her followers already knew since day -2
>>112349004mandela effect
>>112346253she has mentioned on stream she's discussed that topic with her therapist. during the divorce stream, she even repeated some things she has said her therapist has told her (such as her having too much power in the "relationship").
>>112346644does it surprise you? before she became a vtuber, she used to talk shit about vtubers as well. when she insults and mocks something, it's a sign she's something she's considering.
>>112346746not in that way...
>>112347801people who believe that a woman having had a boyfriend is a bad thing are retarded
>>112354894> she isn’t some ignorant girllol
Alice Sawyer is what shondo would have been if she did not worry about money.
>>112346153A unit who also can’t lift her boney ass btw
>>112336808>Did you feel betrayed when she did her anti-parasocial stuff?Yea, but it wasn't as sudden as some people make it out to be
>>112363526Once she kissed a girl who was asleep at a sleep over some people might think that’s bad maybe
>>112365013They were both prepubescent
>>112365213if she did that while prepubescent, imagine how slutty she is now that her hormones are constantly telling her to have children
>>112365261Weird post.
>>112346644100% this, i only ever agreed to be with her because she so aggressively convinced me that she was different, and that our relationship was real and forever. her betrayal is so much worse than your average western whore GFE tuber unsurprisingly having a boyfriend the whole time.and it feels like she's been pretty unnecessarily spiteful about it all too, feels like im being held in utter contempt for the crime of loving her how she encouraged me to.
>>112346668learn to read you dumb faggot
Pilates girl and Gym guy are having fun with my ex-wife
>>112363432She's being to parasocial with her the rapist
https://files.catbox.moe/zeapoc.mp4
>>112366241Oh wow. I'm sorry, man. I only saw some of the tweets and didn't really follow her. What do you mean by 'spiteful'?
>>112366241if you think that what she did was a "betrayal," then you never really understood her and you were never for her to begin with.
>>112367047>What do you mean by 'spiteful'?NTA, but she really put the pressure on us husbands during the break-up stream and along the way to her progressive change of mind on the core tenets of the relationship.
The thread is about fans of the VTuber Shondo reacting to her distancing herself from the heavily parasocial “wife/husband” dynamic she had cultivated with her audience for years. She apparently leaned into a “girlfriend experience” style of streaming, where fans jokingly or semi-seriously called themselves her husbands, and she responded with affection, emotional intimacy, ASMR, and relationship roleplay. Later, she began rejecting or scaling back that dynamic, talking about unhealthy attachment and setting stronger boundaries. Fans referred to this shift as a “divorce.”The discussion revolves around whether this change was compassionate and necessary, or manipulative and hypocritical. Some posters argue that the backlash itself proved her point: many fans had become emotionally dependent on a fantasy relationship, and she had a responsibility to step away from it before things got worse. Others feel deeply betrayed because they believe she knowingly encouraged emotional attachment for years, accepted large amounts of money from fans during that period, and then suddenly condemned or abandoned the very dynamic that made her successful.A major source of resentment is the perception that she profited from loneliness. Multiple posters mention donations, fan-funded house payments, and “paypigs,” implying that fans financially supported her because they felt emotionally valued by her. Critics argue that she deliberately targeted lonely men and built an audience around emotional intimacy, while defenders say the relationship was always obviously fictional and that viewers are responsible for maintaining emotional boundaries.The thread also contains a broader argument about authenticity. Some posters feel that Shondo originally presented herself as different from other VTubers, more sincere and emotionally genuine, and later became indistinguishable from the kind of creators she once criticized. For those fans, the sense of betrayal comes less from discovering she had relationships or personal boundaries, and more from feeling that the emotional sincerity they valued was ultimately performative.Despite the hostility and irony common to 4chan, many comments sound genuinely sad rather than purely hateful. Several posters admit they never believed a real relationship was possible, but still found comfort in the fantasy, attention, and emotional atmosphere she created. The thread ultimately becomes a discussion about loneliness, monetized intimacy, parasocial attachment, and whether entertainers bear moral responsibility for emotional dependencies they intentionally encourage in their audiences.
There's a certain type of chuba fan who is so parasocial that they actually OPPOSE parasocialism because it might hurt their oshi. You're effectively advocating for becoming a nameless wallet, and I don't think that's fair. If a chuba plays into a GFE and then decides it's not for them, the audience they pandered to is allowed to feel upset!
>>112367119she literally said that you shouldnt say you love her and call her your wife unless you meant it and that people doing that when they werent serious had hurt her.if you are one of the 'i will just call her my wife because shes the wife streamer' types then you are the problem
>>112367493no, i call her my wife because i love her.the problem lies in the people who act as if love was transitional, who believe that she owes them her affection back.
>>112367566>transitionalNta, you mean transactional
Shondo is a mentally ill whoreHer fans are mentally ill virgins
>>112367669autocorrect strikes again
>>112367493she evolved lil bro, if you haven't you're more pathetic than her thus it doesn't matter what you think lil buddy, cope or rope
>>112367566the 'transactional relationship' shit she complained about was stuff like people donating for attention and making her feel obliged to be nice and give them kisses that they had 'paid for' instead of doing it when she felt like it. i did not want this either and didnt even send resub messages before she even mentioned this.and if she doesnt feel affection right now thats one thing, you cant force that, but she certainly owes it to us to be loyal and not actively destroy the marriage considering that that was the entire premise in which we entered this relationship under, a premise that she alone created, that this was not GFE it is marriage and it is forever. she was very clear about that and consistently reinforced it for a very long time, and expected complete loyalty back from us if we called her our wife
>>11236822650% of marriages end in divorce and most of them are under the same pretense, you are such a manchild, just look at you talking about this on 4chan, either you know you're talking out of your ass and have different motives or you're so mentally unwell or unwise your feelings and opinions on this are irrelevant to anyone but yourself to sort out, hope this helps little buddy!
>>112368334this trvke kills the groomer anti
>>112368381Shondo groomed these people
>>112368226you are trying to narrow the definition of "transactional" to exclude yourself, to avoid acknowledging your faults. accept it: your idea of "love" is toxic, and you're not entitled to force it on anyone else.
>>112368469I feel like you are not realizing that she wanted this type of attention and asked for this audience. Are you an ai?
>>112368410Shondo was simply being nice to her fans, the fans are the ones who went full schizo and imagined some kind of romantic relationship.
>>112368565yes, made her vtuber persona when she was an unwise young girl, during a period of emotional turmoil. she was never the kind of woman to give affection loosely. she takes love very seriously, and she hated the dynamic that she had accidentally cultivated.if you haven't got it already, you never bothered to understand her and love her for what she is.
>she takes love very seriouslylollmao
>>112345156>She walked it back within like 2 days thoughI didn't know about this, QRD? I don't really watch shondo
>>112368846just a little bit of damage control, nothing earnest.
>>112368226You're right
This continuation of the thread turns the discussion away from simple accusations of “grifting” and toward a deeper argument about the meaning of the parasocial relationship itself. One side argues that fans are justified in feeling emotionally hurt because Shondo intentionally cultivated intimacy, affection, and symbolic “marriage” language for years. They reject the idea that viewers should be expected to act as emotionally detached supporters who only provide money and attention without becoming personally invested. To them, if a streamer actively encourages emotional closeness, then disappointment and grief are natural when that closeness is later withdrawn.A key point in the discussion is the claim that Shondo herself treated the “wife” dynamic seriously. Posters say she explicitly told viewers not to call her their wife or say “I love you” unless they genuinely meant it, and that insincere roleplay hurt her emotionally. This complicates the narrative because it suggests the relationship was not framed as entirely ironic or purely performative. Some fans therefore argue that they took the emotional side of the relationship seriously because she appeared to do so as well.One poster tries to distinguish between transactional attachment and sincere affection. They argue that they never expected kisses, attention, or emotional favors in exchange for donations, and that they loved her without demanding reciprocation. However, they still believe she owed the audience loyalty to the overall “marriage” framework she created. In their view, the issue was not that she temporarily lost affection, but that she abandoned a relationship model she had repeatedly described as permanent and meaningful. They interpret the “divorce” not as the ending of a joke, but as the breaking of emotional promises.Other posters strongly reject this reasoning and view it as unhealthy entitlement. Some mock the idea of discussing a VTuber relationship as though it were a real marriage, while others argue that any expectation of permanence or emotional obligation is still transactional, even if money is not directly involved. From this perspective, the angry fans are trying to redefine their attachment in more noble terms while still expecting emotional commitment in return for their devotion.The thread also contains a more sympathetic interpretation of Shondo herself. One poster argues that she was emotionally immature and unstable when she built her persona, accidentally cultivated a fanbase with unhealthy attachments, and later realized she hated the dynamic she had created. According to this view, her withdrawal from parasocial intimacy was not manipulation or betrayal, but an attempt to escape a role that no longer reflected who she really was. They argue that people who truly loved her should accept her boundaries instead of demanding that she continue performing intimacy forever.By this point, the thread has evolved into a broader philosophical argument about parasocial relationships. One side believes that emotional intimacy deliberately cultivated for years creates genuine obligations and that abandoning those expectations feels like betrayal. The other side believes that love without boundaries becomes possessive and toxic, and that respecting the streamer’s decision to change is the only truly sincere form of affection.
>>112368824her emotional seriousness is exactly why she withdrew. she cared too much about love to continue treating it as a performance.
>>112369373she actually started dating a black muslim Everyone knows that's the reason but they don't want to admit it.