>>112502194
yeah yeah we know, she is out already. The announcement should be set closer to the end of her contract.KFP on suicide watch. Next comes her LLD

>>112502194
Or the time.

>>112502194
skyline serenade is gonna be a flop.
ask fantastic reality how tickets are moving since they decided to go head to head with hololive

>>112502194
It is very weird to me that talents are so unhappy in hololive that they feel the need to perform in the flesh head to head with their own company.

couldn't imagine a phase talent ever doing this, but then again their talents give a shit about their company and aren't selfish.

>>112502194
they can't.
Friday night is Ironmouse's concert.
these indies are learning the hard way of what happens when you try to overlap the big guns. maybe they should just stick to Offkai weekend with the little fishes that is an easy sellout

>>112502194
>got no replies on his previous shitpost thread (>>112501823)
>tries again

Question;

Why do the big indies keep scheduling their concerts at the same time the big corpos do? I feel like this has happened again like with AX in LA.

>>112502668
The idea is to host the concert over popular convention weekends (ANYC, AX, Offkai etc) because anime fans are already traveling to the locations and it is an easier ticket to sell.
It can be a struggle to sell tickets to an event when it is on its own and ask people to travel just to see your thing when there is nothing else going on said weekend.

The problem is everybody now has this idea, so concerts are overlapping eachother and people cant be in 2 places at once.

>>112502668
In this case it's more like
>both work to get a good venue slot months in advance next to a con
>don't tell anyone because of course
>suddenly they're in the same city at the same day

You'd think Kiara would know about something like this in advance, but I don't know how much the girls get to know if they're not directly involved in a project so it's possible it blindsided her too.
>>112502433
Anon? They're doing fine. Hell, Doki's thing (the only one on the same day as that holo concert) ended up releasing more seats because of demand, and they intentionally timed it earlier in the day so you'll have plenty of time after doki's concert to get to the holo one if you want..

Anyways, shit thread

>>112502833
>They're doing fine.
not a single night has sold out

>>112502194
I even like everybody on both sides. This shit sucks.

>>112502869
Yes, and?

>>112502194
Kiara needs to get fired Immediately after this. She's sabotaging the company to benefit the competitors.

>>112502833
>In this case it's more like
I don't think that is the case at all. Hololive always runs ANYC.
Kiara should have known and let her concert know. Or she is so oblivious and likes the smell of her own shit too much that she didn't even do her due diligence. Or she told them and they just didn't care.

I think the big idea behind this concert was they rented a 3000+ seat venue knowing holo fans will be there for the annual hololive ANYC concert that is usually on Saturday, and then whoops it turns out they are Friday this time.

>>112502833
>we need to release more tickets to an event that didn't sell out not even close
listen to how retarded you sound

>>112502465
to put it in Phase terms: this is like if Lumi decided to do a flesh concert intentionally in the same city to overlap the Origins concert at PhaseCon
unrcontionable that this behavior is considered ok

>>112503047
Not seeing a problem here. If I want to watch Lumi in this scenario and don't give a shit about Origins, I'll go watch Lumi.
You do realize you don't have to engage with absolutely everything a company puts out, especially if it doesn't involve anybody you care about, right?

>>112503047
But are the indies a direct threat to the corpos?

>>112503047
>phase phase phase
when will you peruvians shut up about your mickey mouse company

>>112503177
because it is not being supportive of your companymates.
a part of being in a corpo and on a team is you have to layout sometimes and realize it's not about you on some days.

>>112503240
it's been 6 years and Kiara still has not figured that part out.

>>112503240
>a part of being in a corpo and on a team is you have to layout sometimes and realize it's not about you on some days.
That's dumb.
If they wanted them to care, they would have involved them in the project.

What a retarded thread

>>112503305
not every project is for (insert girl). they were supportive of her and ina's live even did watchalongs. it didn't involve them, but they rallied. it just says a lot about the kind of person kiara is and how much hololive means to her that she wants to compete with her own company.
it also shows how tired hololive is of kiaras antics that they gave her the greenlight to do it. they are not worried about her taking tickets away from them whatsoever.

Which one are (You) going to attend?

>>112503532
The one I’m more likely to get laid after, obviously

>>112502194
hey at least that's a reunion!

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Uh?

>>112503401
It's a multimillion dollar company, not a 5-man garage band. They don't need all hands on deck for a halfassed karaoke.
Cover has 500 other employees to worry about that. Let the girl have her concert.

>>112503401
Yeah I think this is a pretty big dig at how much Cover values Kiara that they are not worried about her taking tickets away from a company event. That is how little she means

>>112503401
>and how much hololive means to her that she wants to compete with her own company.
It's just a job, anon. Don't be stupid.

>>112503706
and that is when Kiara realized her time in hololive was over. when it became just a job

>>112503721
Jobless take

>>112503746
careerless take
if your find a career you love, you will never work a day in your life

>>112503768
Guess that explains why HoloEN hardly streams LOL

>>112503768
Jobless take

>>112503660
HoloEN was a mistake

>>112502194
Saba still the overlap queen lmao

>>112503721
As opposed to who? Half of EN who barely stream and jam their time on their channel with ads and corporate promotions. Shit Anon, you really convinced me the current HoloEN is worth supporting whole-heartedly.

>>112503876
>Blaming HoloEN
It was NijiEN and the Dokibird situation that blew those doors off.

>>112502271
her LLD already happened when she was princess carried

>>112502194
is that a man on the right

>>112503891
I don't know about you, but I love that my oshi is happily and busily charging forward & furthering her career. Her music sales is doing well and she should be getting a solo live in 2027.
That's enough for me, more than getting another stream or two more at the cost of having my oshi forever stucks as just a streamer

>>112504217
It's a fucking business, it always has been. Used to be a lot more hidden/a lot less obvious. You can use whatever gay-ass cope you want to about how your 'oshi' is totally winning while she increases her attempts to milk you of your money ten-fold, but it's still just a job.

>>112504293
Yeah, it's a job, but why should that matter for me when it comes to supporting my oshi whole heartedly.
I suppose I should've put a "NTA" in my previous post because that guy was a shitposter

weren't people shitposting about karen overlapping serenskibidy day1? i dont see the bird to be smart enough to make these descisions for herself
not that i care enough to beat a dead horse (myth)

>>112504368
And this is literally no different than what you spell out. Same idol horseshit eating massively into stream times and causing heavier pushes for advertising. The only difference is that this one doesn't say "HOLOLIVE PRODUCTIONS!!!" on it. Shit's gay all around, I'm tired of EN being massive faggots, crying about loss of revenue, and their continuation of dumping into what is essentially a net negative financially in the west. This shit is all ego-driven, and I've gotten very tired of giving money to this shit.

>>112503240
>>112503301
What about the Mori rm concert same day as Serendipity, that's fine though?

>>112504471
KFP... This is just sad...

I'm starting to see why vtubers hate each other.

>>112504471
What are you talking about? That falls in same month but it's apart by around 3 weeks. July 3 & 4 vs July 24

>>112504850
he means this:
https://x.com/FRproductions/status/2054638861524017409/photo/1

>>112504995
what does Myth act this way?
a dying gen that is struggling with how their corpo doesnt need them anymore

>>112504113
I hate niggers....

>>112505125
Kiara loves them! She even tweeted in support of Fentanyl Floyd!

>>112504995
I see. Thank you.

>>112504471
>already memoryholing all the shit she got on here for doing that

Is this a record?

>>112502194
holy uggos batman!

>>112505517
phoebe is cute though

>>112502465
if a talent isn't in an event they aren't told when such things are happening. Con appearances are silod

>>112502933
Hololive could hire Mint any time they wanted though.

>>112502271
AZKi also loves pulling stunts like this with her RM. I think some of the girls just like trolling Cover for shits and giggles.

>>112502516
I like Mouse but is there that much overlap in their audience?

>>112502833
>I don't know how much the girls get to know if they're not directly involved in a project so it's possible it blindsided her too.
Anon I love the Holo girls. Let's not pretend that Cover management is not absolute dog shit at times. This one isn't an exception. Cover and the indie organizer both fumbled, but the near billion dollar company is more responsible for the hiccup.

>>112506515
I dont think Cover gives a single shit about a random indie concert.
Hololive is doing a concert with Anime NYC one of the biggest and most prestigious anime cons in the world. They likely set the terms

>>112506515
what did cover fumble exactly? what is the "hiccup" on their end?

>>112506515
Kiara knows there's always some hololive booth and content associated with ANYC. Even if she manage to overlap the same date/time she would've overlapped the weekend event with hololive which would've pissed off everyone who isn't KFP because she's effectively pulling away attendance and revenue from the holoshit when her fans who can't afford to do everything start picking her over holo.

>>112506574
well you see they should have asked the indie concert that features a disgraced former employee and a current malcontent who is a clubhouse cancer if it is ok for them to run a concert in new york city

cover is gonna struggle to sell tickets now to anime nyc because everybody is gonna want to go watch 2 fleshies and a girl who cant sing or dance instead of their brand and high production value

>>112502194
Imagine if kiara was given a slot and she rejected the slot for the other concert.

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>>112502194
It's an anime convention, of course you are going to find anime related events in similar dates

>>112502668
Concerts are obviously set up months ago, the vtuber industry knows the overlap with anime fans, so they set up close locations. These locations aren't going to worry that gulp shitto is at the same time as ass eaterino, they are going to care when they have it available, and work with it. It was bound to happen at some day in similar hours and shit. That's about it, ANYC just sees walking ATMs walking to their set up with Cover or not, they do not care about some dumb fights over these people

Mint is definitely the biggest "what could have been" for HoloEN. I'll never understand why she got turned down, she would have fit in perfectly. Did she ever talk about it?

>>112507021
She is not a cover recruiter anon but she wasnt good enough for myth

>>112507094
She definitely was

>>112507122
Not better than Ina or Kiara. Maybe Ame

>>112507021
Yes, multiple times.
They told her she didn't have enough streaming experience, which is why she started streaming as Mint, and then later in Nijisanji. Last year I think she even showed her audition tape from 2020.

>>112507021
If I was Cover, I would want to pick people with some streaming experience to lead off a new branch. All of Myth had some streaming experience, some as vtuber, some as fleshies, but streaming experience nonetheless.
Mint had 0 streaming experience and recorded her audition audio on an xbox mic on an overheating laptop in her closet.

>>112504066
Actual retard. Mori and Kiara have been doing this shit since day one.

>>112502194
Reminds me of the time Nimi overlapped All For One after promising Gigi that she would watch her on stage, when Gigi had already kept her promise to Fauna in her 3D debut

>>112507021
They call her leech fantome

>>112507021
>>112507162
>>112507203
She auditioned once before she was ever a streamer. That's it. No grand conspiracy or whatever.

>>112507332
>They
the voices in your head are real, retard

>>112504066
I think the Kronii boar incident broke the last semblance of barrier when it came to Hololive, after Kronii's rm got fired over a Kronii stream all bets were off

>>112507411
newfag

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>>112502194
ALL
OUT
WAR

>>112504471
Same day, but she's there late enough that we can keep keyfabe on

>>112507122
>>112507094
it was timing/luck
Mint had zero streaming experience back when auditions were held for Myth. Her profile unironically clashed with Kiara's and cover decided they'd rather get Kiara

>>112502465
It's more weird to me that Hololive allows you to work outside of the company but still in the same field, as long as you dox yourself and show everyone what your face looks like. If she was an indie vtuber it wouldn't be allowed but since she's showing her face it is. Just seems like a sociopathic way to run a company.

>>112507325
Nimi also overlapped her 3d debut...

>>112507391
I see it posted all the time

>>112508526
By yourself

>>112507549
Makes you wonder what the alternate timeline would be like if Pomu got into hololive and Kiara was a founder of NijiEN

>>112508648
Nothing changes honestly
Mint would have quit after it became clear she would be #4 at best in her gen and she didnt get priority or get her way

>>112508648
We never would've gotten Sneaking

>>112502194
>super karaoke party comes to my town
>no Nerissa
>it moves to New York
>Nerissa
jailbirds suffer the most

>>112508690
I don't think Cover would have given her an unusable 3D model, or allow the others to have input on their 1st outfits but not her, or only given her 2 merch releases vs. the others getting 9. You know, things Nijisanji did to Pomu.

>>112508725
That song sucks ass.

>>112508760
eh, she just would have complained about other stuff. It is a personality type + Mint lacks patience

She would have been the runt of Myth, and I dont think her ego would have taken that too well. She is meant to be the star of whatever she is doing at all times. There is a reason why Densetsu is what it is she didnt want someone who can take her spotlight she is the clear #1 and she wants girls who are ok being background

>>112508648
things would be the same

>>112508821
>eh, she just would have complained about other stuff. It is a personality type + Mint lacks patience
Well no, because all of the things she complained about in Niji would not have happened in Hololive. And Mint waited an entire year before she could use her already-debuted 3D model, I think that's pretty patient.

>>112505048
maybe they just don't like the corpo anymore. for a lack of a better word, isn't cover like a stepping stone for whatever they like pursuing?

>>112502194
What's Phoebe's problem?

>>112508821
>She is meant to be the star of whatever she is doing at all times.
Then why is she joining this concert (and many previous concerts she's been a part of)? Because she obviously isn't the "star performer" here.

>>112509214
down syndrome

>>112502194
Holy fuck do those 3DPD look like shit next to anime girls

>>112507325
I would be sad if Gigi wasn't also obviously in with them both

>>112509429
You are now aware that the two anime girls didn't show their faces because they were even fuglier.

>>112510646
Actually, from what I've seen they're significantly cuter than the other two.

>>112510646
Who cares, I'm looking at their avatar, not their face

>>112502194
Jesus fucking christ KIARA NEEDS A PAPERBAG HOLY SHIT
And this just means the 2 png whores must look even more ugly than those 2.

>>112504066
>implying the naziniggas that spammed that shit werent holodrones
el lemao

>>112503301
the MEMEME allegations arent a joke anon, they're genuine concerns

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>>112508648
Fuck off, asshole.

>>112508821
Mint was too patient, if anything. Between her and Doki, all they ever did was wait back at Niji as opportunities either passed them by or were actively shut down.
They're moving quickly now since without a corpo weighing everything down, they're able to immediately act on opportunities as they come up instead of waiting 3 business months for perms to come back (which may or may not be rejected outright).
Kiara and Mori seem to have found a nice compromise where they can do the smaller events on the side while waiting for the big ones.

>>112511379
>waiting for the big ones.
Never gonna happen. They're in their mid-30s now; that's ridiculously old to transition into being fleshtuber idols, who usually start performing around 15-16.
A handful of simping paypigs can keep a streamer afloat but they can't launch a music career. And that's even assuming they were good enough to be competitive... which they aren't.

>>112502921
How is it doing fine then?

>>112511735
I meant more in between big events rather than a career shift.
Holo handles the big serendipities and all for ones or whatever but those only happen once or twice a year. Meanwhile they can attend multiple stuff as their RM to get their performance fix.

>>112503532
Neither EN is a disease and sharts should be ethnically cleansed.

>>112502194
ew is she balding ??

>>112503660
It's over isn't it? Why do tourists ruin everything?

>>112506302
I actually don't know AZKi's RM, then again I don't know most RMs of the JP members

>>112511944
And losing teeth.

>>112511379
>mint was too patient
lol she put in her notice right before her 2 year anni
that is nothing

>>112508648
I'd imagine she and elira would butt heads over who would be the mean girls leader and kiara would either submit to her in short order or bail the moment ethyria arrived tipping the balance firmly to elira in the mean girls department.

>>112513093
Don't be a faggot. She got out of there just in the nick of time. You know what would have happened if she didn't.

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>>112503660
>culture

>>112502958
>Kiara
>oblivious and likes the smell of her own shit

>>112509236
>Because she obviously isn't the "star performer" here.
she is. she is front and center in the promotion. nobody is going to outshine her on the stage nimi cant sing or dance, kiara is worse than her, and nobody cares about the other girl.

mint is stealth competitive like that and doesnt like it when there is a threat on that stage with her or she has to follow someone who is capable.

>>112514678
That flies totally opposite of what you're saying she's doing with Densetsu then. Phoebe and Vicky have much more experience singing and dancing as idols than she does.

>>112515268
who tf are vicky and pheobe

>>112515281
The other two members of Densetsu

>>112515268
not as vtubers they dont
it is a different beast

>>112515347
It's not though. The same dance moves you do as a flesh idol can be motion captured to a 3D vtuber model.

>>112515318
oh the group that is Mint and the 2 backup dancers? thats why I never heard of them before

>>112515393
its a similar but different beast. mocap is more difficult because you are at the mercy of the technology and making sure it captures everything correctly and there is no clipping with the model etc. it often times takes a lot more tries because it doesnt get capture right
vs. you just show up and dance/sing

>>112515426
Yes, they have much more experience doing idol activities than she does. If you think she is "worried about being outshined", she wouldn't have formed a group with them.

>>112515462
So basically, they just have to do the same dance again. Big whoop, makes no difference to them. People with experience doing idol dances have no problem doing the same dance twice.

>>112515488
she doesnt have to worry because she is 10x bigger than them
phoebe has experience, but nobody cares about her as an idol this has been proven time and again as her friends have been forcing her into spots she doesnt belong in and fails do make any impression

>>112515540
And Nimi and Kiara are bigger than she is. If she was worried, she wouldn't be performing in this concert with them.

>>112515268
Phoebe and Vicky are nobodies compared to Mint. They are backup performers to her.
The center nova of Densetsu is Mint and that is by design.

>>112515598
>kiara
she is not doing a concert with kiara

>>112515611
And Mint is a nobody compared to Nimi and Kiara. If she "didn't want to be outshined by people bigger than her", she wouldn't be part of this concert.

>>112515650
again, she is not doing a concert with kiara.

>>112515630
You literally said it yourself.
>>112514678
>kiara is worse than her

>>112512935
She's arguably as successful with her RM than her Hololive counterpart, even if she disbanded Laprière recently.
https://www.youtube.com/live/biRtWF3s5r8

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>>112515650
Nini is bigger than Mint, but Mint is 10x the singer and dancer and she will be the star of the concert. Just like she has been the shining star in literally every concert she has done.
it's like you would never see her do something with someone like Bae who is both bigger than her and is a better singer/dancer than her.

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>>112502194
Wait a minute... She would rather go to New York in her roommate form than be with her fellow Hololive members? What happened? They're SUPPOSED TO BE FAMILY!

>>112515707
She doesn't do things with Bae because she doesn't know Bae and Bae doesn't know her. Plus, if Mint did do something with Bae, I'm sure you'd flip your shiposting angle right around and start spamming that Mint is leeching Bae.

>>112515695
Not too surprising considering cake doesn't have a membership to use for presale.

>>112515695
that's not too bad for only the first hour of presale

>>112515740
Holo management is anything but family, this whole thread feels so stupid anyway. I don't see any real drama at all, it's just anons trying to work themselves up into a reaction. It's all so tiresome

>>112515695
why are the front rows empty

>>112515884
Its doxxfags trying to bother people and the thread should have been deleted as soon as it was posted, but the mods dont give a fuck about this board. I wish they would either moderate it or delete it and we could all just go to jp.

>>112515884
Here's a few
>People want to be upset about something
>Shitposters want action
>The main cast of EN vtubing has more than half of their talents streaming less than 10 hours a week leaving very little else to discuss.

"Mint has ego and is afraid to be upstaged"
meanwhile reality
>will share the stage with anyone
>accepted being on the preshow of Club Ironmouse very humbly
>danced fullout with Coyo who is an actual high level choreographer
>danced fullout with Lia who is a young hungry idol
>has experienced quality idols in her group
>etc

>>112515963
>leeched
>leeched
>leeched
>leeched
>hired more leeches
we know

>>112502668
Hear me out anon... Maybe it's a) unintentional, or b) unavoidable.

>>112515887
Grey = Sold
Dark Blue = Available
Light Blue = Resale (fuck ticketmaster)

>>112515849
densetsu concert was sold out in 3 minutes

>>112515907
There is no doxx here you retard

>>112515991
>spamming it already
You're not supposed to prove me right this quickly.

>>112516057
3 minutes + presale (the day prior)

>>112516057
>>112516092
almost as if running a concert on Offkai weekend is the only way to sell out now because of how oversatured the market is

>>112502194
>More brother wars
I wish we could go back to the old days... back to the peaceful days of smosh.com

>>112516060
Kill yourself and go back to your discord and kiwifarms

>>112516216
You don't even know what doxx means.
Kill yourself

>>112516125
Idol concerts are a side thing. These little shitters keep spamming this while cutting down on what actually gets them fans and popularity. This isn't Japan, I can't hop on a train for a max of 4 hours on a day trip to go watch a concert for a grand total of $100. It costs a hell of a lot more for the majority of fans in EN to go to this shit, but they act like it doesn't and assume people will shell out thousands every couple of months to watch the perform somewhere that's probably somewhat expensive to go.
It's why they keep coupling it with things like anime cons, because they're praying there'll be enough fans interested in going to both a con and their event. 99% of vtuber fans had never been to or even looked at an idol concert prior to the EN explosion in 2020, and a large percentage of those same people don't give a fuck about them even now beyond 'supporting my fake girlfriend'.

>>112516060
Stop acting like we're talking about identity theft, it's about separating the virtual character from the RM. This is the same as Mexican Luchadores, the mask is part of the culture and it's respected by audiences. But somehow in vtubing, we're cursed with a plague of zoomer faggots who grew up with a screen rather than parents and thus never were inducted into any kind of real culture or community they'd have a clue to protect. It's all just chasing the next dopamine hit or meaningless passing tiff on social media as some kind of distraction from tragically empty lives. Like why else would you even do this? You tell me, go ahead.

>>112516125
the idol concert bubble is bursting in real time. i am just glad my oshi got her shit in and got to do a lot of these concerts when it was hot and it mattered.
feel bad for girls this year and the following years who are thinking it is there turn to do them and the meta will have moved on from venue concerts

>>112516271
Words have meaning.
There.
Is.
No.
Doxx.
I don't care if the sight of a real person makes you shit yourself, close the window, turn away, shut off the computer, you fucking autist. Stop shitting on everyone else because you can't handle reality. At least use the right words and be honest about why you're shitting on everyone.

>>112516326
Words only have meaning in context, I imagine if I spoke to you in a foreign language you'd also be confused and find it meaningless. What I mean to say anon, is that you have no culture and you're too stupid to learn. Was that simple enough for you, you dumb fuck?

>>112516272
It'll be fine in Japan because there's both a culture and easy access to them. There are few who are willing to keep spending multiple hundreds to thousands of dollars to see a one or two night show that lasts between 2-6 hours, and that number of willing fans is decreasing all the time for the west.

>>112516230
idol concerts are a side thing, but many of these vtubers treat them as the main thing

>>112516435
Oh I obviously am only talking about in America. Idol stuff in Japan will always have a place.

Idol stuff in Japan can sell out stadiums and arenas. In America, its absolute max is doing mid sized concert hall like last years concert. That was as big as it is gonna get. There will never be an arena show, and if there ever was it would be mostly empty.

>>112516398
You are genuinely retarded. There's no point in even acknowledging you any further.

>>112516528
Go try and rip off a luchador's mask in Mexico during a match if you feel so confident in yourself. Let me know how it goes.

>>112516492
>>112516437
It's so stupud. I've personally spent around 10k going to 2 World Tour stops and BD. With how my favorites havr been acting, it sure as fuck doesn't make me want to spend more. They're forgetting that the main attraction is semi-consistant streaming and entertainment. Instead they blow hundreds of hours practicing and recording multiple times a year and then cut down on stream times year over year.

>>112516492
The New York metro area has 1/5 the population of Japan. You really think they can't find 10,000 people who are willing to see an idol show? I disagree? They just need to advertise it.

>hololive has still not sold out an EN concert this year
>Club Ironmouse ANYC not sold out
>Fantastic Reality 2 is 0-3 nothing is sold out
>PhaseCon not sold out
>Skyline Serenade has soft presale and looks like it is gonna be a slow crawl
>the only known sellout is for Densetsu, which was easy because smaller venue + it was on Offkai weekend when vtuber fans are already in town + the little coffee shop concert Mint did
if the hololive ANYC concert does not sell out within a week of on sale, that really shows the demand for 3d concerts is soft. in 2023/2024/2025 they quickly sold out their ANYC days

>>112516620
The EN 'box' is around 100k semi-active fans. Now spread that 100k across the entire globe, including a small chunk from Japan. Odds are pretty fucking low that you can get enough people in the metro area of 8.6m to be interested when the number of actual fans is pretty small and across the globe, it's pretty believable that they couldn't sell out

>>112502194
no mori calliope ever dropped a little lore on me and i was never biboo taxed

so i know who i'm rooting for.

>>112502668
times and seasons.
for everything there's a reason.

august 21, 2026
>8 21, 2026
>8 21, 20 8 (2+6)
they're close to being mirrors of each other, so it makes sense, though 8 20, 2026 would've been a better schizo choice. maybe it being a friday, rather than a thursday had something to do with it

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>>112508690
Cover wouldn't instantly say no to Konami and let Pomu do the metal gear song or have a gen mat funnel all the merch opportunities away from her.
That alone puts them ahead of Niji

>>112502465
They're greedy whores. They used Hololive to build their brand and following and got rich, and now are jumping ship because they don't want to share the profits with the company that made them. Filthy traitorous dogs biting the hand that fed them.

>>112515707
>Just like she has been the shining star in literally every concert she has done.
She had Saba and Miori at her solo concert

>>112517256
Hello company bootlicker!
Doesn't matter anyways, western fans don't want this shit 10 times a year and all of them, including the ones not doing side stuff, will learn very quickly.

>>112502465
>hololive allowing talents to have gigs outside of the company actually reflects badly on hololive for some reason

>>112502465
Only Kiara. My oshi is busy, tired but happy as a clam and working well towards her goals

>>112517504
Riiiiggghhhttt, I'm sure.
We'll also ignore the fact that Kiara mostly got what she wanted from Holo.

>>112517581
Unless you know the details of her contractual responsibilities and obligations, (which are under NDA anyway), nothing you say has much value at all.

>>112517640
Yeah, just ignore what she's said and pushed for during her whole Holo career and finally got this year.
I know you love shitposting, but I'm sorry to inform you that if it's idol related, the only people who have a shot at the 'pinacle' of idol work in Holo are MAYBE FWMC, IRyS because hers is announced, and MAYBE CCGG. If it isn't those talents, you're shit out of luck and may be even shit out of luck if it is.

>>112508738
It takes a lot to move Nerissa around.

>>112517256
Holy bootlicker, did you at least add seasoning?

>>112517710
>you only owe what's in the contract
>I know you love shitposting
Really? You must be unfamiliar with how employment works.

>>112517825
You're the retard saying that Kiara hates the company. She got the maximum she'll ever be able to get out of it and is obviously seeking put different avenues to try and keep that personal hype train going.

>>112505984
Cover should hire her, they NEED her

>>112516819
The "schizo" threads here are for combative retards, not literal schizophrenics.

>>112517850
>She got the maximum she'll ever be able to get out of it and is obviously seeking put different avenues
That's just common sense. You don't ever owe an employer your undying loyalty. It's always a two-way deal.

>>112518076
I just don't get why that shit-eater is acting like she's ungreatful or 'done' with her Holo career though.

>>112515611
>The center nova of Densetsu
Nova is the latin word for "new", I don't really understand the usage here. Is it kimd of like a novelty?

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>>112516638
You do realize you don't need to sell out a venue to turn a profit right

>>112516767
>he doesn't want biboo to tax him
Bizarre post

>>112517825
>you only owe what's in the contract
NTA but this statement is true. What's the problem here?

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>>112504113
BASED

>>112519494
Weird, a nova in terms of stars is a bloated old star going out in a final blaze of glory, destroying everything in its vicinity. That seems like a terrible metaphor to choose.

>>112519572
>this statement is true
No problem. That was the point.

>>112502194
It's almost like Anime NYC have events all days

>>112516230
Have you tried to not be poor?

>obsessing over rmts and ex holos

>>112517504
>only Kiara
Why do you guys hate and obsess over her so much. She's literally not the only who does this exact thing nor is she the only one to openly complain about some of cover's decisions.

>>112502465
I dont think Kiara has been happy a day in her life

>>112520173
>t. Poorfag

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>>112502194

>dox thread still up

>>112516638
its funny cause the densetsu one only sold out thanks to a holo joining and headlining it

>>112524738
It's not doxxing when they do it themselves.

>>112519595
Any lore on this Low Tier God x Commander Gore from SMT Strange Journey collab?

>>112524812
Nah, 90% of the tickets got sold in the paid patreon presale, which had registration closed before She was announced as a guest.

>>112515740
She would be streaming from home, the holo thing is a con karaoke. No Holo is going to actually be at NYC during it retard.

Leech phantome

>>112525239
They don't know what doxxing means

>>112529447
>Stay at home and make money off of fans who go to another city for you
What a job right?

>>112502194
>no real life content
>they do this

>>112512632
Yeah it's over, you might as well just leave right now forever.

>>112504150
Yes

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>>112514678
Projecting much Elira?

>>112533785
It's the fan's fault for traveling to watch a TV screen

>>112533927
God, it took me like 10 full seconds to remember what an elira was.
Nature is healing.

>>112529447
We literally have multiple accounts of Holo members sharing stories of them going to events. You lying piece of dogshit.

>>112502833
you're a moron. you dont release more tickets for something that doesnt even sell out. she couldn't sell out a 100 seat dive to hear her "sing"

I have zero pity for any grifter who thinks they get to circumvent their corp by funneling fans over elsewhere so they rake in all the money

Without holo she would still be a 2view with like 3 people showing up for her at dokomi

>>112502297
Azki has that advantage that she may be actually just the goddess of doujin music scene and Cover recognize that a lot of convention enjoyers would riot if she would abandon them for Cover. Keeping her RM activities alive turns these Touhoufags and Kancollefags and I suppose now Buruakafags into potential Hololivefags and that's pure money.

>>112502516
>Ironmouse
>Big guns

Lol, lmao.

>>112534889
Won't someone think of the poor multi-billion dollar corporation?
Think about how the shareholders feel.

>>112535614
Why should Cover let people in only for them to then run off and take their ill gotten fans with them? Answer that.
Why should any company?

>>112535635
Why should anyone ever love you? Answer that.

>>112535665
Yeah thought so, zero arguments.

>>112535704
No answer at all huh
So you do realize it

>>112502194
Why dont they ever do anything else? It's always just singing. Not interested..

>>112535665
What a fruity-ass thing to say.

>>112534861
bro's completely lost the plot
can't even remember who he's whining about

???

Stop necrobumping your own doxx thread faggot

>>112543283
Learn English

>>112518076
>You don't ever owe an employer your undying loyalty. It's always a two-way deal.
The corpo bootlickers really don't understand that Hololive is a business and that most talents tolerate the strict management rules for that reason. The RM stuff though is getting to 2022 levels of curious and they are fighting with management again.

>>112535635
>Why should Cover let people in only for them to then run off and take their ill gotten fans with them?
Unless you own stock or work for them why do you even care? Cover is getting bloated with 800 employees and their main focus should have been on the talents. If talents keep quitting because they don't feel like management respects them why should fans side with the corporation?

>>112544781
Stop necrobumping your own doxx thread

>>112502194
No

>>112503179
in some cases yes

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>>112550260
VShojo was an inside job!

>>112502194

>>112502194
Yeah sure nigha
Hololive is done for

>>112502194
phoebe cutemogs keeki so hard it's insane

>>112502194
Something something overlap Bijou?