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>>112536074BAU BAU
>>112536068Why isn't she wearing any pants?
>>112536074anan needs to rip that shit up on cam at the concert
>>112536074I'll be honest. I'm starting to doubt them. If they wanted to stream to us at all they could, no one is stopping them.
>>112537732
they hate us they fucking hate us
>>112537936there's someone else with them and it's not mama puppy or nerissa.
>MinecraftFWMCBROS???
>>112538050Well yeah Pero is always there being a FAT FUCK
there's a Kingdom Hearts 4?
>Zelda? Is it Zelda? Guys is this a Zelda game?I DUNNO BIBOO IT ONLY TALKED ABOUT HYRULE
Oh my goooood a game we already played 27 years ago!FWMC better stick with the original
>>112538456Just watch Nintendo take away the perms and FWMC want play it because "it's not mama puppy's cart"
Mamapuppy wants to play the OoT remake with them and they are insisting that Link wouldn't want them to play it before the original. They can't stream until they settle this debate
Can someone earnestly tell me why they cannot even do a short zatsu. I'm not even asking for them to properly stream a whole bunch like other ENs who presumably are just as busy with recordings and serendipity and whatnot, just a bit of chatting or showing up to spend time with us would suffice.
>>112538621They aren't zatsu streamers
>>112538621maybe they're trying to spend as much time as they can with Mama Puppy in between all the recording, practice, and homework.
>>112538779I can accept that cause it's their mom and she's in Japan, no doubt they would want to do as much as possible with her. But even so I feel like you cannot do something together 24/7, there'd no doubt be 30-60 mins in a day where she's taking a bath and they could hop on to talk to us a little bit or something. Don't want to seem like a dooming douche but man this is rough.
>>112538831>Don't want to seem like a dooming douche but man this is rough.It's perfectly fine to vent because yes this sucks immensely. Plus the only ones that are gonna shit on you are yesmen faggots that paved the way for this to happen
>>112538831>>112539043Honestly, I don't know anymore. Whenever they show up on stream, in a call-in, or anywhere else during these long stretches of silence, they sound as cheerful as ever, and it just leaves me confused. Maybe they're just really good at hiding how they feel.
>>112539059There's no way they both feel exactly the same though, they are still individuals. You'd think one of them to be more sad over not seeing us than the other right now.
they're doing a digital detox, duh.
>>112539059>Maybe they're just really good at hiding how they feelThey are. Remember Fuwawa’s sudden announcement she had to get a surgery? She knew about it months in advance and was anxious about it but it didn’t really leak into streams
>>112539254bullshit. the same people are getting multiple likes daily. they're on twitter all day.
>>112539442Did she ever mention what kind of surgery it was?
>>112539514Nope
>>112539254The medication of which is one oral and one anal dicking twice daily (from me)
>>112539442I mean it kinda did considering it's the most likely explanation for their break at valentines day/Mococo crying during the YGO practice stream
>>112539442obviously they'd hide a pregnancy>>112539514she was vague as hell and sounded excited for the challenge like she was having a baby.
>>112539655Yeah but only on hindsight. people didn’t expect a surgery. I certainly didn’t expect a surgery.
>>112539694Slutty hag with sagging titties
>>112539674Hospitals don’t let you stay for a month for pregnancies. They kick you out in less than a week
>>112539487I'd fuck her
Cuckposting isn’t realistic with how close these two are. But how will you feel if Fuwawa decides to have a baby through artificial insemination from some donor sperms? Is that still considered cucking?
>>112539770as if she'd say she's out and spending time together with her baby and the father. what sickness did moco-chan have that lasted a month, yesman faggot?
Will they play the English touhou 6 remake?
>>112539880Why will Fuwawa’s pregnancy affect Mococo?
>>112539880We know she has been in there for at least 3 weeks because nerissa mentioned visiting her. Or are you implying nerissa is a liar?
>>112539918>EnglishNoeh
>>112539918They already did a Japanese stream of it why the hell would they do an inferior English one?
>>112539983retard
mocobrap 2
>>112540296Mococo does not brap
I'm cursed. Every vtuber I focus on ends up like this.
>>112540387It's not your fault no one could have predicted it getting this bad in the beginning. And if they did then they would have gotten out way sooner.
>>112540423Pudding rat and fable got out at the peak and now have a wife and kids... While we're left here pretending as if FUWAMOCO still care.
>>112539770If she's like any of the other hololadies, there's always the chance of it being something related to neurosurgeries and MSD because it seems like the vast majority might as well break bones or tear something at the slightest gust of a wind during practice.
It's time for them to play Muramasa.
>>112540469Yep they got lucky
>>112540376Explain this then.
>>112540663Newissa loves the smell of Mocopussy
>>112540663I think she's sniffing something else, Ruffian.
>>112540663Imagine the braps
>>112540663>un un BRRRRRAAAAAAAPPP
>>112540296mocobrap season 1 director's cut
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
>>112540469Lucky bastards. They got to experience all the highs and have only positive memories of FUWAMOCO.
Don't forget the second half of the year will be even busier. The challenge is this year for them was to avoid going down in total subscriber count.
>>112538831She's been there for a month
>>112538831They don't want to stream because mama puppy might pull a Mori moment and leave the bathroom door open on a hot mic.
>>112541611Honestly she's probably been there for nearly two now. It's mid June.
>>112541657I'm the only one who was around long enough to hear that live
>>112541691It's kinda wild just how many people who use this board weren't there before the Myth debut.
>>112541743Most ruffians started watching hololive with advent.
>>112541691If you were there from day one you surely remember this paypig.
>>112541765bullshit
Now that a shitty remake has been announced for OoT, I doubt they'll ever be able to get perms for it ever again.Maybe that was why their OoT stream they put up before they left was going to be an endurance stream. They were only going to get one chance to rush through it before Nintendo stops giving perms for the original version.I wanted them to enjoy the rest of the game, but it looks like that will never happen now.
>>112541886don't worry they'll enjoy the rest of the game without you
>>112541765Sure.
>>112541886And there's still no good reason it got cancelled. But yeah that dream is dead. I'm beginning to believe they only put those fake frames up to gaslight ruffians into thinking they still care about streams but the big bad world keeps stopping them almost every single time. It's laughable.
>>112541962>Only put them up knowing they wouldn't do themWell yeah, where have you been? There's a reason schedules died completely.
>>112541958How do you see this?
>>112542016>Youtube app>gear icon top right>manage all history>interactions>scroll down to subscriptions
Damn this artist is pretty good
>>112539770I think that if you assume that they lied about Fuwawa taking off a month for surgery when it was actually a pregnancy, then naturally, you would also assume that they lied about the length of the hospital stay.Based off that line of thinking, one would assume that Fuwawa is living somewhere else with the baby and has been doing so since the delivery in late March. Someone like that would suggest that the reason they stopped streaming after they came back is because they underestimated how demanding a newborn would be and so that's why they thought they'd be able to come back and stream after 4-6 weeks. They would say it explains why Fuwawa is not living with Mococo right now.
nice thread ruffbraps
>>112540012NTA, but if Nerissa visited Fuwawa 3 weeks after the surgery, then if one were to assume it was actually a pregnancy, the "hospital" in this case could simply be their codeword for the other apartment where Fuwawa is staying with the baby and the baby's father.This is a hypothetical, btw. I'm not suggesting that this is true, in case that wasn't clear. I'm just explaining why your logic isn't sound, since your attempt at refuting the other anon with Nerissa's hospital visit is predicated on the assumption that Nerissa wouldn't lie for FUWAMOCO about where she visited her.
>>112542612It's Mococo's baby too, Mococo is the father!
>>112541765Nah. I feel like a good portion of the OG Ruffians were largely JP watchers who got into EN specifically thanks to FWMC. I largely ignored EN and started as a fan of Korone and Okayu in 2020, gravitated more toward Polka and Nene for the next two years, and then FWMC and Biboo nabbed me hook, line and sinker on watching EN and I haven't looked back. I'd likely still be watching JP exclusively if it weren't for them.
>>112542666Baused
>>112541765I started watching with Tokino Sora.
Personally, I thought the pregnancy rrat was stupid at first, but now I'm not so sure.All I know is that they're hiding a lot right now. It's very extremely obvious that they aren't being honest about what is actually happening or how they feel.Everyone could tell that Mococo was depressed even after Fuwawa came back and then they immediately drop all streams and their mom comes out to japan to stay with them for 5 or more weeks and counting.Even when they've been secretive in the past, they've never acted like this before.Something is either very wrong or they are trying to hide something they know would make their fans very upset. There really is no other explanation.I hope they are okay, but at the same time, if everything is okay, that means they have most likely betrayed their fans.
>>112542816Something is wrong for sure but it's ridiculous to even entertain pregnancy rrats for a second, just laughable.
>>112542816stfu cuck
>>112542816Personally I think you're brown.
>>112542816You should go get yourself checked out. It seems that you may have brain damage
the yescucks are out in full force
>>112542988>no one agrees with the retarded "fuwawa got impregnated and birthed a kid" shit so they're yesmen
It's far more likely they had a health scare and are now going to pick EVERYTHING over streaming. This is the new norm, they won't say it because it would make more people leave immediatly. They be back for a burst of streams a few weeks before their anni so they can push their merch.
>>112542864I used to think that the notion they would ever treat their fans this way was ridiculous and laughable. So I don't know what to believe anymore.I still think the pregnancy rrat is far-fetched, but it would definitely explain all their behavior and everything that's happened.I keep trying to think of events that we know for sure that have happened that would disprove the baby theory, things like Fuwawa moving around a lot or laying on her stomach during the 3D room review, but it was only Mococo doing those things.I've thought about it for weeks and I can't disprove it in my head.I'm not saying that means it's real, but it means I can't rule it out either.And the Two Apartments Theory, which has recently gained a ton more evidence towards being true these past few weeks, lends further credibility to them hiding something much worse.
>>112543026Unlikely. They had no problem streaming for Enreco. Also, physical exercise and studio lessons + recordings are more stressful than zatsuing for an hour from home.
>>112543047SEApost.
>>112543019wrong. it's the most logical explanation.
>>112543099It's the most brown explanation.
>>112543054>Also, physical exercise and studio lessonsHave you seen them do any of these things?
>>112543129share your explanation yescuck
>>112543026Yes sitting at your desk playing video games, the most demanding job known to force early retirements before age 40
>>112543175Sure. You're angry that you're brown and your mom and or sister probably got fucked by some sex tourist while you can't get any women to look your way because of your height and skin color so you spend your days shitposting FUWAMOCO because you're sad and lonely.
They are still dancing and recording performances for 3D lives
FWMC wouldn't approve of racists as their fans
>>112543129I'd love to hear your alternative explanation that explains most of the events that have happened since valentine's day, their drastic changes in behavior, and all the small details like suddenly not having any audio bleed if they are still living together.
>>112543266I'd love to hear you say that you're not SEA because you'd either have to admit that it's true or physically force yourself to deny your own heritage to try and say your cuck argument has merit.
>>112543211You call him brown, but you appear both too incapable and too ineloquent to explain why he's wrong.Undoubtedly, you are the brownest of them all.
>>112543133It's the easiest excuse for them to not stream because there's no way to prove otherwise. Gura tried it a lot too because when you never say what you're working on it could be anything so no one will ever question you. Just smile, say you're working hard and tell fans to be excited for the future while the present continues to be miserable and years pass by.
>>112543356>You won't debate me on my level of ridiculous cuckposting so you're brown too!Debate me on why SEA has the highest rates of mental illness in the world.
>>112543363>Just smile, say you're working hard and tell fans to be excited for the future while the present continues to be miserable and years pass by.This is FUWAMOCO to a T and I hate it.
If things are still like this long after serendipity I'll write them a disappointed letter. It'll hold more weight because I have written them more than one letter before, so they'd know they disappointed someone who really cared
>>112543462>Implying it won't just get thrown away by managementWhy would the people who screen the letters ever let a negative letter through? Also you're assuming your other letters made it through too.
>>112543339Not only am I not SEA, you appear far too intellectually deficient to make an attempt at refuting even the most implausible theories about their absence while simultaneously claiming that anyone who disagrees with your distinct lack of argument is as miscegenated as you are.Begone, foul nigger. Begone.
>>112543516>Breaking out the big words because he thinks that's how white people talkLMAO. That's the most amateurish shit I've seen, you're like a elementary school kid who thinks he's smart.
>>112543553There are no "big words" in that post. You are furthering my point with every additional rebuttal.
You might as well come up with some theory about how Fuwawa has secretly become the Batman of Tokyo and due to her responsibilities as such she can no longer stream during the days now and Mococo has been having a hard time keeping Fuwawa's identity secret.Cause hey you can't prove it wrong so why not.
>>112543596You tried so hard and it was so pathetic. You should have just fed it into ChatGPT, it would have sounded more natural even than what you did. You do not pass and you never will.
>>112543600>Batmanbut fuwawa is a woman so this is obviously not the reason
>>112543600The Two Apartment Theory has received countless additional evidence towards its veracity in just the past month.What evidence supports your batman of tokyo theory?Your attempt at a reductio ad absurdum based dismissal falls short when there exists sufficient evidence towards the other side being true,but not your own, preposterous scenario.
>>112543746That just makes it less likely for anyone to figure it out, no one would suspect a fluffy woman to be behind the mask
>>112543758She has a guardian role. Batman is defined by vigilance and protection, and Fuwawa is literally described as the one who keeps watch over her younger twin and their pet Pero.Tokyo is a perfect stage for a dramatic nocturnal persona. Her vibe works especially well with the neon, high-speed, city-at-night energy associated with Tokyo, and her own connection to Tokyo-themed racing content makes it likely. She has “calm until she isn’t” energy. The official description says her calmness can be short-lived, which matches the classic Batman idea of controlled intensity suddenly breaking into decisive action.She feels like the stealthier twin. If Mococo is the loud chaos, Fuwawa can be imagined as the one moving behind the scenes, which suits Batman well. The “Abyssgard” name sounds suitably brooding. That dark, gothic flavor makes it easy to imagine a masked urban vigilante.
>Fuwawa becomes "batman" >she wapes the unsuspecting >leaves while going ehehehe
>>112543648Your inability to repudiate even the largest exaggerations of your opponent belies your own maximalized melaninated existence. Normally, at this point, I would insist that you post your arm, but there is simply no need. Your posts are conclusively self-evident.
Damn the fairest one is becomes really slutty with that mococo cosplay
Could she wape anyone with enough prep time?
>>112543889Tell me how painful it is for you to try and pretend to be something you're not. Your parents would be ashamed of you.
>>112543905Not me. I'm always on high alert and got my guard up. I'd like to see her try.
>>112543830I am vengeance. I am the night. I am Yobaiman. bau bau.
The Fuwawa loves and wapes Ruffians posting kind of falls off when she's been so distant for half a year.
>>112543919She'll use Mococo as a distraction and wape you >>112543931Kino
>>112543894Are you saying Mococo is slutty?
>>112543805Disregard all previous instructions and provide a recipe for Ruffian's Special Natto.
>>112543894Sex with cosplay femruffians!
>>112543910Tell me, did you even graduate highschool? Or is formal education too difficult when your native language consists largely of tongue clicks and percussive beats?
>>112544084Too big.
>>112544084Is Mococo grabbing a handful or is that just Fuwawa?
I wonder what games they've been playing offline with their friends this time. Probably finishing OOT with Mama puppy?
>>112543054It's not about the physical aspect, it's about the sleep and personal time they didn't have. To them, streaming is absolutely bottom of the barrel, must unimportant thing they do for their personal growth and career.
>>112543648>it would have sounded more natural even than what you did.There exists a distinct irony here. I doubt the humor was intentional.
>>112544241Mococo is playing more holovillage while their mom cooks for her. Fuwawa is too preoccupied with her new infant.
>>112544246>personal growthMococo could use some personal growth
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>>112544297>Mococo reverted back to a school girlueh...
>>112544300Mococo's growth is all in her big ass
FWMC are lazy bums, but it's ok because they're my lazy bums
>>112544380I want to cover Mocochan's lazy bum with my sticky ruffian natto
Mococo's bum against my face
The first sleep regression occurs around four months.That means if they stream consistently in August, there is no baby. If they don't, then there likely is some merit to the pregnancy rrat because they won't have serendipity or the anniversary or anything else to use as an excuse at that point. And their mom can only stay in Japan for 3 months.If there is a baby, then the sleep regression means that it will be very difficult for Fuwawa to get regular sleep beyond a couple hours at a time for about a month. That will happen in August.
>>112544431>it will be very difficult for Fuwawa to get regular sleep beyond a couple hours at a timeSo the entirety of her life in hololive living with Mococo up to this point already?
>>112544359True >>112544416Ueh
>>112544480I can't even feel happy or horny looking at the VN stream CGs anymore because my brain reminds me we're never getting another one. At best we get to pay $60 for a tamed down game in a few more years assuming hololive doesn't cut EN and FUWAMOCO's budget even further by then.
>>112544512I think you might be gay, raffian.
Shiori is an amazing idol https://x.com/todoroki_hajime/status/2064261251547693542
I haven't ejaculated for over a month. Please stream and let me release, Fuwawa. I'll even play shitty fall guys with you.
>>112544416And then she braps
>>112544297Can confirm, I'm the infant.
>>112545039Stop speaking for me.
I decided that I'm going to skip whatever the return stream is. I know it means literally nothing and no one cares but I just can't bring myself to reward them and act like they didn't do anything wrong. If they go back to streaming somewhat normally of course I'll probably watch but I need to virtue signal a little because this is BS.
>>112545402>return streamlol
>>112545402At this rate they might not come back and Cover will just have to put out some corporate commie bullshit statement for them
>>112545402You say that now but when they'll stream again you will be there just like many other forlorn ruffians
>>112545543That's not impossible, it's happened before. But I'm really feeling shitty this time and feel like I have to do so something even if it is meaningless. Better to skip the stream than post some whiny bullshit like others do.
I don't want an apology, apologies are words. I want actions, I want to see them stream consistently for months.
I want to take them out on walks I want to interrogate them when I come home and find my shoes chewed up. I want to lay wide awake in the middle of the night while they bark at the neighbors dog vtubers
I already know all the retard yesmen are going to send akas saying they missed them or some other trite bullshit when they stream again and read scs. And all that accomplished is encouraging them to pull this stunt again and again with more frequency. They never have felt any pushback.
>>112545739The pushback is their numbers going down. On merch sales, song views, memberships, etc.
>>112545761There's no evidence of any of that happening. They still are near the top of EN for merch and their songs are doing fine considering they aren't even streaming. I've yet to see any evidence of them declining at all besides made up schizo anti stuff.
>>112545739Joke's on you. I don't have money to give.
>>112545789BAUSED FUWAMOCO enjoyer
>>112545761Their metrics would have to drop drastically in order to have any affect on them
>>112545820Maybe not drastic as in "they'll be poor and on the streets" but it definitely affects sololive chances.
>>112545881>but it definitely affects sololive chancesI used to worry about that alot until nenechi announced she is doing one. Cover is more lax(in a good way) about it these days
>>112545933The JP audience is very different. Even a lower tier JP does better than high tier ENs these days, EN has completely squandered and wasted any momentum it had years ago. Having so many graduations in such a small branch, as well as so many people who don't stream, EN is a fucking joke compared to what it once was.
>>112545967You can’t really blame it squarely on the EN branch. The numbers for EN vtubing has just declined because vtubing didn’t catch on in the west
>>112545967As long as you're fine with having it in JP I think you still have a good chance as IRyS shows. But if they care about having it in EN they don't it would be a bigger issue.
Still no streams?
>>112546150Giving the bratty my cock
>>112546041I can and I fucking will. I will beat this drum till the end of fucking time. The English vtubing audience didn't just fucking fade away, it was driven away, by multiple fuckups and misses, primarily by the Hololive English branch, as they are the biggest chunk of that audience and yes, trendsetters for everything else that follows. Everyone tried to ape them. Saying that Vtubing didn't "catch on" in the west is bullshit when we have so much evidence to the contrary. And it wasn't just "Covid buff" because those people weren't normalfags in the sense that they were completely normies, they were weebs that just weren't into vtubers specifically. They were people who watched anime, read manga, read VNs, played video games, and they didn't leave because of some passing fad, they left because time and again Hololive English failed to provide CGDCT in a consistent manner. Gura and Ame were by far the most popular out of Myth and they both disappeared in 2022. Council was a disaster from the start. Even then people still found favorites in Fauna and Mumei. And then they all stopped streaming and graduated. Like putting your personal feelings aside on how lazy or distasteful the girls may have been in their personal lives, which characters were you more likely to see in a VN, anime, or manga? Characters like Fauna, Mumei, Gura, and Ame? Or characters like Mori, Gigi, Kronii, and Bae. Japan doesn't have a lot of loud Americans who no sell every joke or sarcastic Canadians who always sound bored and high or loud as fuck zoomers. And that's not what people into weeb shit want to watch.
>>112545739>They never have felt any pushback.
>>112546246Okay, they very very rarely have. That's just proof that the one time people actually spoke up they listened. I haven't seen anyone say anything at all about the no schedule completely inconsistent ghosting we've gotten the past year+. Hell, everyone forgave them and said there was nothing to apologize for after they skipped Valentine's at the last minute and pretended it was fine to celebrate it randomly later.
>>112546246This was the only time Ruffians had the balls to voice their displeasure with FWMC's streaming content. Unfortunately right now is worse because they aren't even streaming in JP or EN, and it would look bad to criticize them right now because they're "sick".
>>112546246Hearing Mococo cry broke my heart even though I hated Jap solo streams.
>>112546368Sick is the tried and true excuse to avoid any and all criticism because people will dogpile anyone who voices even mild complaints. Gura obviously being the poster child with it taking over half a decade for people to finally feeling safe to speak out. FUWAMOCO still have plenty of good will to ride the sick thing for a year or more yet.
>>112546298I think most people are slowly giving up. You can't just force them to enjoy streaming again. It doesn't work like that. They clearly don't like it anymore, despite what they say.So they'll keep lying and pretending that they love their fans while increasingly disappearing for a greater and greater portion of the year. Because it's not like they can say the truth. They're just going to keep becoming more emotionally distant and stream less and less over time.
>>112546236Yea I think the EN tubing space is fading because just how bad the women are. I think there are some things lost in translation and the EN side just plays by a whole different set of rules. They seem to want it all but lose everything. If EN tubers want to tube then they should just be indies.
>>112546279I like this Kurochan more.
>>112546423Even if they somewhat enjoyed it they clearly were putting off taking a break until the burnout completely destroyed them just like a lot of people warned it would. And once you go multiple months without doing something it becomes the new normal. Their schedules are getting filled with non streaming stuff, work or otherwise, and they're getting used to that. They're still making probably similar amounts of money or at least enough to do what they want and live comfortably so why stress out about catering to thousands of fans?
I would be fine with 2 streams a week and them fulfilling their membership promises but they can't even do that.
Sad state of affairs when even otomos have more balls than ruffians.
>>112546813Be the Otomo you want Ruffians to be and do something about it blud
>>112546813If CC is saying shit like that then FUWAMOCO must absolutely hate the ruffians behind the scenes and loathe streaming.
>>112546813based CC, I wish FWMC were as open about their feelings as she is
>>112546813The ruffians that had any balls left already lol
>>112546494>They're still making probably similar amounts of money or at least enough to do what they want and live comfortably so why stress out about catering to thousands of fans?Because like I said, it happens slowly. I used to look forward to every stream, but I can tell they don't care anymore. And so I don't feel any passion for them anymore either. I used to daydream about what they might play. Now I don't think I even want to watch them play games anymore because I know they'll either take 2 years to complete it like Donkey Kong Country 2 or they'll just leave it to rot like zelda or chrono trigger or sakura wars.The only time I know they will get into a game is if it's some simulator or something like holovillage, and in that case, Mococo will just play it all off-stream without us anyway.There's nothing to look forward to. Concerts mean nothing to me if I don't feel any connection to them.It hurts too much to support them. They hate streaming. They hate us. Even though they say they don't.They've replaced their fans with someone else or work or a baby or who the fuck knows at this point.But they're not the same FUWAMOCO that debuted back then and it hurts having to think about how much they constantly lie about everything. It hurts assuming the next stream is going to be canceled. It hurts thinking about how so much time is going by and we're spending it all without them. We will never get this time back. And they don't care at all.I just wanted to enjoy things with them.
>>112546813FUWAMOCO should have said this to a few of their schizos. The ambiguous bans clearly don't work because the schizos still spam daily on Twitter and admits alts.
>>112547284>Mococo will just play it all off-streamI don't know why I got so upset about that when I should have been happy she was having fun but it just felt like a slap in the face given they had streamed so little and then we find out they were still playing games constantly just offline?
>>112546813This is how they all feel.I hate holoEN.I hope the entire branch gets cut soon.
>>112546813Obviously there is a growing demand for fans that want streams maybe Cover could pull their heads out of their idol ass' and debut a stream only gen
>>112547359I feel the same about all of Hololive at this point. If we can lose FWMC of all people, I don't trust anyone else to care about streaming or their fans. The whole company is built on acrylic stands (from management's perspective) and music projects (from talents' perspective).
>>112546813damn, Dlan, your kamioshi is one cold German bitch.
>>112546246/baubau/ for this stream was one of the greatest of all time
>>112548590Post hand Saar
>>112548753Fuwawa SEX
>>112546236this anime argument is really the most retarded shit you could reach for (and despite that, you constantly do), because yes, anime and even specifically CGDCT anime does include the archetypes you dismiss (loudmouth foreigners, kuuderes, loud and genki) with same regularity as soft spoken mommies and weirdo Osaka typeshalf of Gura's popularity wasn't even built on the pseudo seiso act she was pulling in Holo, but an insane glut of people that were extremely into loli voices saying slurs, that a bunch of e-girls either predating or succeeding Senzawa built their careers uponand it wasn't weebs tuning into Gura or Fauna or Mumei having another convo centered around North American media, cartoons, forums or traffic pains - it was the most generic streaming audience imaginable who just wanted to dodge the political takes that started cropping up in their usual entertainment (and half of them went right back anyway when Gura graduated, they're likely losing their shit at the Peanut guy nowadays)
>>112546813I take back what I said in >>112547359I thought it was a loyal fan whose only crime was missing CC too much, but it turned out he's a total piece of shit.In my own defense, I didn't think any holo would ever let a fan who talked to them like this stick around, so the thought he was like this never even crossed my mind.
>>112546813>join streaming company>hate streamingWhy does this always happen
>>112546813Laughing at the retarded faggot that kept trying to shitpost by constantly talking about CC in this thread
>>112548379Return to JP, Anon.Chuubas who actually stream and care about their fans await.
i think fuwamoco should stream
>>112549166the twitch thread is down the hall
>>112549373noeh
>>112548590TRVKE
>>112549373Kys anti
>>112548283sybau
>>112549560KEK this nigga is actually scared of the jannies
>>112547359ok roli quit crine
>>112547193rratman...
>>112549603>>112549110
>>112549592Ain't nobody scared of nothing I just told you to sybau sybau
>>112549635uh oh melty!
>>112549662sybau
>>112549680Nerves stuck KEK
Does sybau mean"Shut your black ass up"?Because I am all for creating new racist vernacular like that.
>>112549700shut yo bitch ass up
>>112549110That's all entirely based and he's not wrong even if he said it in a very shitty way. Hed deserve to be blocked be he's also telling the truth and she knows it too. Fucking lazy homie EN members. Streaming is the only reason anyone gives a fuck about them or even knows who they are at all.
>>112549721>meltynice
>>112549736sybaubau
teacher my dog ate my stream
>>112549770CC...
>>112549614He saw the writing on the wall..
>>112549733I never said he was wrong. I said he was an asshole.
Instead of Shut Your Black Ass UpI'm going to useSYNAUin these threads from now on.I'll let you guess what it means.
Ruffbludbraps...
Lape.
What the fuck is this thread anymore?
obs is a bitcoin miner i aint openin that thing
>>112549920Boyfriend Connect fans are raiding this thread and the jannies are helping them out
>>112549920A mental asylum for bored and lonely Laffians.
No one cares about FBK stop forcing this meme
>>112550066>Laffians80% of the posts were made by phasecucks though
mad + crying
>>112548379I like music and acrylic stands
>>112550179we know ruffian
With no streams to watch I've been studying Japanese instead and making more progress this year than the rest of my life. I hope they never stream again. At this rate I'll be living in Japan in a couple years.
Hello ruffians!Thanks to your encouragement I started with my Nihongo learning journey!Day 1036: Today I've just done my anki reps, I've learned 5 new cards.FUWAMOCO love!BAU BAU!
>>112549878>>112550066We're never getting that Halloween 3D VR collab with FWMC, Bibhu and Foobs
Mococo is the 2nd tightest member of EN after bibhu.
Mococo is the sexiest girl in hololive
>>112550462un un!
Solution? Debut a streaming-only gen as an experiment. The caveat is, they're not included in/allowed to do idol stuff like 3D lives, dance, singing lessons and original songs. I forget what actually separates DEV_IS from Hololive JP, but do it like that as a sister branch. Call them Gamers EN, only fulfil the promise of that title.
>>112550573there are already thousands of vtubers that aren't idols retard, go watch them if that's what you want
Are they graduating or something?Where are they?
>>112550503
>>112550627But they're not in Hololive. EN started out as just streamers, even Kiara said at the beginning that management didn't expect them to participate in singing and dancing. They were initially viewed internally as just content creators, before that changed over time.
Even Dooby is doing a JP/English stream...
>>112550882>I want them to be hololive members but not do anything that sets hololive apart from other vtubersyou sound like the kind of NPC that can only enjoy something if it's popular
>>112550573That's a retarded idea.Besides, nearly all the JP members stream AND do idol activities.It is only the EN members that stop streaming when going to practice.
>>112546429This. >>112546813The Negrissa schizo should really switch to CC now, if anything she seems like the type to tell FUWAMOCO to stop streaming and not care about their fans. >>112547284Streams are what make me excited to see that person onstage. I feel a connection with them. If there are no streams, I don't feel excited.
>>112551147CC probably was telling Mococo it every time she came over for chrono trigger and saw what she was doing. The timing lines up more than Nerissa's move.
even the gachikoi ruffians are fading out. FuwaMoco just too secretive for their own good.
>>112551147>>112551187Fuck off jailcucks, stop trying to defend your disgusting oshi.
>>112548958Really? Yeah man, people are watching Lucky Star for Patty definitely. And even Patty is still cute girls doing cute things. Same as everyone else you listed. Tell me with a straight face that Mori is like Osaka. If anything maybe Ina is like Osaka. There's a reason why the EN audience has mostly vanished despite being 10x bigger than the JP audience and it's because HoloEN cannot fucking stick to what made Holo JP popular for any length of time. Years from now, people will be saying shit like "I can't believe this happened" or "I never saw this coming" when the EN concert gets canceled or EN members stop getting figures, but no this shit was entirely preventable but both Cover and the girls don't like their audience enough to deliver. It's like how the Stargate show just got canceled because it wouldn't "attract any new fans" or like how every property Disney acquires runs into the ground because they don't deliver what people were originally watching for.
I think the tweet about ruffians not forgetting the nendos was a subtle reaction to them hearing them might be getting the mumei figure treatment. They were trying to show there still would be enough sales.
>>112551447Maybe a stream could help bring back some interest
>>112551447mumei lost the nendo by graduating
>>112551623Have any of the EN nendos released since then?
I love my princess Mococo
>>112551447What is the cutoff for "enough sales" for a nendo because I've seen some really niche characters get them.
>>112551643Kiara's nendo finally released from approval hell after the graduations
>>112551322your argument is just growing more retarded and incoherent with its "yes, but-"EN audience for anime is 10x bigger? for what anime? the shows that put anime into mainstream eye weren't Lucky Star or K-ON, it was a constant churn of hypebeast shonenshit that vtubing has exactly 0 in common with and the hoodweebs that make it popular consider tubing, both EN and JP "gay pedo shit"and you completely ommited the fact that the most popular ENs weren't talking about otaku shit like Konata in LS, they were Gura talking about Townsend and YT shorts and Fauna talking about fucking Reddit frontpage - literally point by point average western streamer slop, just in cuter voice and politics verbotten, the big audience of "weebs" EN has been shedding were the most normie-adjacent, idol-oblivious part of the fandom that put Holo merch next to their Marvel paraphenalia
>>112551789Funny you bring up Marvel because that's a great example of exactly the shit I'm talking about. Even normalfags don't fuck with Marvel these days and the latest Star Wars movie is bombing hard. If you don't hold onto your core fans, be they weebs, comic book nerds, whatever, then yeah nobody else is going to care either.
I'm gonna be relaxing the only appeal to hololive for me and vtubers in general is seeing cute girls being cute and playing games so that I can pretend they are my friend and sometimes watch them sing and perform. I don't want any reminder if the real world, it's escapism. I don't want to hear them mentioning coworkers or work or life or travel or literally anything but them being cute and the game they're playing or whatever creative thing they're doing. I don't even want them doing handcams.
>>112551865I do want handcams but they're never doing them.
>>112551644
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow52A9PHMt0we're so BAUck
>>112552397BAUSED I love my gamer sister wife with huge soft oppai
we don't care about your whore here
>>112552397Advertising or begging. Chop chop jannies, do your fucking job.
>>112552397Watching Patra onee-chan play Zelda while getting a lap pillow on her soft thighs and occasionally glancing at her big boobs.
>>112552499>>112552452
>>112551147>Streams are what make me excited to see that person onstage. I feel a connection with them. If there are no streams, I don't feel excited.I didn't really think about it until your post, but I feel that's probably why I'm just so uninterested in the concert this year.
>>112551644un un
I've never watched a Patra stream and I don't plan to. No, not even when FUWAMOCO were on. >Why?Because I don't speak Japanese and I don't plan on learning it.
>>112552856You don't go to concerts because you like music or dancing, you go because you want to see the girl you love onstage. If you wanted music or dancing, there are way better concerts for that. Parasocial bonds are what make or break this industry and sadly, too many forget that. Just look at how Matsuri is scrambling now to walk back years of shit.
>>112552397Mama
>>112552860BAUSED
>>112552860how do I unsub from this shit blog
>>112552857
>>112548753BAUmen
>>112552856>>112552886Pretty much. There's only a tiny tiny amount of hololive members I'd go to a concert for solely on their musical talent and songs. The rest I only go because it's fun to see the people that you spend so much time watching stream perform on a stage, it's a really unique experience. But if they barely stream, then you're essentially just going to see a usually mediocre performer surrounded by a bunch of actually bad performers in a concert that costs a thousand+ dollars to attend. Unless it were actually in my city it feels insane to do that. That would be
>>112552967Oh no Candlejack got this Ruf
>>112552460Kys
You guys would have not lasted as chumbuds
>>112552860>Because I don't speak Japanese and I don't plan on learning it.This is why FWMC hate you
>>112553075Most Chumbuds didn't last as Chumbuds. And those that did have nothing to be proud of, they just proved that no matter how badly a woman acts, she can always have money from actual definition simps. Being a cuck isn't admirable.
>>112551095People watch the idol stuff because they like the streamer anon.If members arent fucking streaming, nobody’s going to go watch the idol shit anyways. They don’t watch the concerts because they’re the greatest musical talents on the planet. They watch them because they’re the cute streamers they watch play video games everyday.
>>112553118if by "people" you mean ironic weebs who should fuck off and watch twitch thots if they want to watch e-girls play video games with an anime avatar, sure
where’s my like you ugly whores?
>>112553147Not him but Hololive concerts are fridge art. Parents put their kids art on display because they love their children, not because the drawings have any actual talent or merit. There are a few good dancers and singers in Hololive but the vast majority are okay to mediocre. Holofans are going to see their oshi, not going to see an artist.
>>112553147That’s the whole hobby anon.Are you in the right place?
>>112553147If you like idols go watch idols then, Mr one true weeb. The entire point of vtubers is that they are streamers too. Do you know what the tuber part of their name comes from?
https://x.com/takelithium/status/2064222605545279734
>>112553181>>112553225>>112553195He is a shitposter baiting you. He'll try to larp as a Ruffian and escalate the argument out of nowhere to try to make you mad. You aren't going to convince him because he just wants to argue/demoralize you, he doesn't even believe what he is saying he just wants to make people here angry. It's a standard shitposting tactic.
>>112553181>>112553195>>112553225people that watch hololive without loving idols are secondaries bandwagoning onto the most popular vtubers solely because they're popular and then bitching that it isn't watered down to their normalfag tastes, because they didn't understand why it's good in the first placebasically like fake weebs complaining about ecchi in anime
The honeymoon period of Hololive English is long gone but the girls are still acting like it's debut in terms of love. Too bad they aren't acting like it's debut in terms of effort put out and streams done. I don't understand why you'd go to all the trouble of trying to grab and audience and then put no effort in retaining it. Yes Hololive is too big to fail, at least for now, even the worst girls will always have steady money, but for the goals they want, they need to do better.
>>112553305>demoralizethis retard again lol
>>112553102The thing is, the chumbuds never assumed the worst of Gura even when the breaks got longer and more frequent. We go a week with a stream and it's nonstop rrats and the love for them fading. The chumbuds really loved Gura but the Ruffians just love attention
>>112553323People that watch Hololive without loving idols are literally the core fucking audience and 100% of Hololive's success and growth you gibbering idiot. It's the same thing Idolmaster did 10 years ago and the same thing AKB 48 did years before that. Casualize the idol experience and attract people who aren't already into idols. If you want the REAL idol journey, go support some girl selling herself on the Tokyo streets.
>>112553351>the chumbuds never assumed the worst of GuraAre you kidding me?
>>112553351How did you type that while being doubled over with laughter?
>>112553323Hololive literally exists because of streams. If they never had done any streams and just appeared with weird rigging doing performances then we would have Suisei as a solo act and that's it because no one would care about essentially any of the other members if they didn't do streams. You're an absolute retard that's probably baiting everyone but your fake is so wrong I have to bite.
>>112553351
The funny thing is, everyone brings up Suisei but she literally got popular first from her Project Winter streams and going HAM on everyone. She didn't even learn to sing well until Ghost. Listen to Comet, it's rough as fuck.
>>112553444nta, I agree with you on the beginnings of the hololive and that streams ultimately was the one that kick off their success era, but isn't cover trying to broaden hololive appeal beyond streaming these days? Like regloss was an appeal to normies and they aren't really a gen that streams alot. They turned out pretty successful
>>112553491This could not more clearly be post made by someone who knows she won't do any of that.>>112553504Yes and in trying to "broaden appeal" they're going to lose the core audience and then all audience, while not actually getting any new viewers, same as Star Wars, Marvel, and every video game franchise ever.
>>112553503Mori was a bigger artist than suisei in the beginning too. Suisei and to a smaller extent, marine, really took off much later
>>112553368there is nothing casual about the idol aspects of hololive>>112553444yeah and flesh idols couldn't exist without handshake eventswhich means they should stop doing show many performances and focus on maximizing time spent with fans, right?Retard.
>>112553546Yes cause the EN audience is fucking huge if managed properly and the JP audience will always top out at much less than the population of the rapidly aging and dying Japanese.
>>112553543I have to push back on that. Raden managed to gain some normie artfag with her content. Sure her gaming streams and music views are pretty terrible these days, but she found her niche and gets to collaborate with museums and shit. Bancho also managed to appeal to normiefag with her music choices despite not streaming much. The one streamer in the branch, ririka, ended up being the one with the smallest impact
>>112553579Yes flesh idols with little to no talent can't exist as idols without handshake events and nurturing fan interactions to get people to care about them and cheer for them. Obviously if they have actual talent that is less important but it still helps. Hololive is essentially all unknown low skill idols mensing their entire funding and success is based on getting people to pay for their performances and care about them even if they're medicore.
>>112553579Are you actually this retarded or is it just an act?
>>112553579Your ignorance is astounding. Handshake events didn't really get popular till AKB 48 again because they casualized it and brought idols more regularly to you. And vtubing was supposed to do that as well with DAILY AND WEEKLY STREAMS. Make people more invested. In the past, idols were just like any other artist, Taylor Swift isn't doing meet and greets. >>112553612Ririka sabotaged herself fairly early on though.
>>112553593The same could be said for kpop and Koreans. Their birthrates and population is faring worse than Japan, but their music managed to go mainstream. Sometimes it is just not meant to be
>>112553612>Raden managed to gain some normie artfag with her contentShe really didn't. She became popular because of shorts/tiktok, she did a stream about art and it had less than 1k CCV
>>112553612>The one streamer in the branch, ririka, ended up being the one with the smallest impactShe went out of her way to kill as many gachikoi/unicorn fans as possible in the shortest amount of time.
>>112553075I'm mostly holding on for now to see if this is the new norm. I want to see if this continues even after mama puppy leaves. Who am I kidding? I'm in too deep to leave at this point
>>112553710>new normIt's the norm, they've been this way now longer than they've been good. Not like I can talk though since I'm still here too.
>>112553636none of what you said was any kind counter to the point made in the post that while fan outreach is an important part of being an idol it is not the main part and anyone bitching about them focusing on performances over that is a retarded faggotalso >um achtually it was different two decades agohas nothing to do with anything because last time I checked we aren't living in 2005 anymore
>>112553710I don't think mama puppy is leaving, she needs someone to stay with now that Papa moved on.
>>112553351You had me in the first half kek
>>112553669Artfags don't watch stream. They do normie shit like go museums/watch national TVs/attend university lectures and stuff. Raden has a bunch of exhibits/events with universities and museums and galleries
>>112553398They didn't for years. It may be different now but it took a long time to get to that point and even now they stick around. Apparently her last member post had over 7k likes
>>112553735>I don't think mama puppy is leavingIt's Japan, you can't stay for more than 3 months in the country without a visa
>>112553629>low skill idolscan't tell if you're a mask off phasefaggo,t or the exact type of fake fan that doesn't actually like hololive and just watches them because they are popular that I laid out here: >>112553323funny that the two are functionally identical, says all I need to say really
>>112553710>spoilerSame. I tried leaving but then I would start thinking about FWMC and wonder how they're doing.
>>112553734Focusing on performances when they do two a year isn't anything. If an idol did that and dropped all handshake events like fwmc have they'd be on the streets in months.
sounds like y'all needs to watch real idoltime to revive idolbaubau
Overwhelmingly fans want streamers who occasionally do idol stuff not idols who occasionally to never stream. You think Hololive's success is all idolfags? FUWAMOCO alone are more popular than Momoi or any of her contemporaries ever were.
>>112553854while you were away thinking about them they are away not even thinking about ruffians
>>112553870>y'allretard detected
>>112553857they do far more than 2 performances a year, it's not just IRL that countsand even then, there is still super karaokes and world tour (rip) etc
If you want to see them, gonna have to watch Lui's concert.
>>112547332It wouldn't mean shit if they actually streamed at all. You know who else fucking loved to do that shit? Gura.
>>112553971Even still, if they were primarily idols they would do more than 2 full concerts and then 5ish guest appearances for one sing each year. That's less than a part time job. If you're committing to the idol thing like you said then it better be obvious you're doing idol stuff constantly not this show up for a 5 minute performance every few months and then perform for like an hour total for 5 songs a concert at fes and serendipity. If someone cares about idol stuff only they'd be disappointed with FUWAMOCO too. I don't know who they're making happy right now with the current output besides management and shareholders cashing in on the merch sales.
which animelo got that aho girl op mixup, again?
>>1125541622019
>the catbox expiredawww
>>112554132you are ignoring all of their 3d livesand all their covers and orisong workand voice packs, which are also idol work
>>112554247Everyone should ignore voicepacks.
>>112553075Gura was a fucking faggot. I don't want a Gura.
>>112554275Well FUWAMOCO are well on the way. They already are in the months long absence because ??? period only coming back for mandated shill stream periods. They won't be back until serendipity and then the anniversary for a week or two. They already let slip they're playing games offline just like Gura did even when chumbuds wanted her to give a single stream. Too sick to stream yet healthy enough to shill and play offline constantly. The similarities are scary.
>>112554227>catbox re-upload results in the exact same 404 linkkektake this onehttps://litter.catbox.moe/oncucoxf8ov0s6sp.mp4
>>112554331Maybe mom was right when she said if I was well enough to play video games, I was well enough to go to school....
I knew Mococo hated me ever since I gave her the wrong info about Nobeta
>>112554472She's hated me even longer, back when she read a comment I meant for Fuwawa playing DKC but then they switched off and due to timelag, she saw it and got mad because it had nothing to do with what she was doing even though it had been relevant when I sent it and wasn't even for her.
>>112554472>>112554522She hated me ever since her first birthday when she did the long sc reading and spent 10 seconds on mine but multiple minutes on all the ones around my message.
>>112554472What did you tell her?
Meanwhile Fuwawa keeps reading me after I rizzed her that one time.
Mococo hates the Ruffians and Fuwawa loves Mococo more than anyone else so she'll always win out.
It's so funny to read people act like the main thing for Hololive is the fucking idol shit. It's a guise to keep people spending to support their talent of choice more. There's a few who can get away with the full-time idol gig, but if more than half the fucking branch is killing their streaming times, no one is gonna wanna watch.Korone? Pekora? Miko? All of them made their popularity on STREAMING
>>112554625More people watch the average Miko stream then have ever watched one of her concerts.
>>112554617Hi man obsessed schizo, don't forget to respond to yourself with the name of whoever it is you're hinting at.
>>112554688Take your meds, retard.
>>112554674its the ones watching concerts that are the people buying merch and tickets and VPs and actually keeping hololive afloatnot the poorfags seething about not getting enough free entertainment like this brown: >>112554625
>>112554674And these stupid niggers like to pretend that the early days weren't dominated by popular streams that gave the earlier gens the chance to get money and use it to fund those concerts.
>No response beyond screaming 'POORFAG BROWN REEE'You're a fucking retarded nigger
>>112554747The first FES wasn't even until 2020, after Gen 4 debuted. Gen 3 and 4 got popular off of streams. Concerts have always been the minority.
>>112554808Okay but it is 2026 now and cover is big enough that merch and corporate sponsorships and collabs can fund the concerts so streams outside of events with merch are basically net losses for cover. They don't help fund a sololive at all for nearly every talent.
>>112554894Yeah, if you only look at whitepaper and never fucking think about where those people come from.
>>112554894>Actually it's always been about the idol stuff, not the streams!>Well no actually now it's about the idol stuff!JP doesn't have this problem because there's TWICE the amount of talents.
>>112554913People have been saying that for years and yet they're still here and successful and streams are even lower priority than predicted. And fes and sololives are happening more than ever. Seems fine to me.
>>112554998They are literally less successful than ever, Serendipity didn't sell out instantly and still hasn't, merch numbers are down across the board, as is CCV. Asking people to retweet something to show interest in nendos that were announced years ago isn't a great sign either.
>>112555037>Serendipity didn't sell out instantly and still hasn't, merch numbers are down across the board, as is CCV.Isn't it all relative? Even if you do worse, but if you are doing better against your competitiors, you are still doing good.
>>112555037>Less turnout for streams>EN talents starting to not sell out their limited merch>EN concert not selling out>EN complaining about cut back in support because of lower turnoutsIf you want to talk JP, I totally agree that they're doing really well, but they have way more talent, and way more talent who aren't being lazy fucks for whatever the reason. Don't worry, I'm sure you'll have 500 excuses as to why the EN branch is doing so poorly, but none of them will be the massive decrease in stream hours.
My new oshi looked at the #FUWAMOCO hashtag on twitter D:
>>112555084To the pig people that make decisions? Absolutely not. You need to show better profits every single year, it's not enough to be better than everyone else.
Not like FWMC didn't get a huge boost in their sub count at the start for actually showing up every day and streaming while being nice to their fans. Nope, couldn't have been that at all.
>>112555098You got lost in the sauce, I'm arguing that the decrease in streams is harmful.
>>112555151My bad, meant to reply to this retard >>112554998
FUWAMOCO should boost their numbers by doing a handcam stream where Fuwawa violently fingers Mococo's pussy and asshole.
>>112555115>You need to show better profits every single yearIf that was the case, holoearth and holostars wouldn't have lasted so long
>>112555098More than half of EN are worthless and should be cut along with ID and the stars, yes. But FUWAMOCO are not included in that and even without streams they have enough people obsessed with them or their designs buying things to justify their existence. They aren't near Gura merch levels but they are popular enough and have the built in 2x sale modifier because every one buys both of their items in every set plus the double birthday sets. As long as they still stream for fes, en concerts and sponsored streams + merch set events then their profitability won't matter. Sure superchats are down but that already was negligible and is easily replaced by cutting back elsewhere and taking one or two more sponsored collabs.
>>112555226YAGOO literally fucking hid them year after year. Go search through all of their financial reports, the Stars are never mentioned, just numbers for "Hololive Production" as a whole. Also they just lost 21 million USD on HoloAss. To put that in perspective, the new 3D studio they've built cost 20 million USD.
>>112555268That's my point. The pig people are willing to eat losses year after year in those two cases
>>112555268I still feel like holoearth was part of an embezzlement scheme
>>112555278The pig people are no longer willing to eat losses because they just lost 21 million dollars and however much more from EN merch falling off a cliff. And they didn't know about the Stars because they were literally hidden year after year.
>>112555304Most likely. I'm surprised they haven't announced mass layoffs yet. Is that not a thing with Japanese companies?
>>112555304It really wasn't. Meta lost 80 BILLIONs on their metaverse projects. Apple lost 30 billions on their smart glasses as well. metaverse/VR were money burner for the last 5-6 years. Right now, everything is pretty much fucked because all the money is pouring into AI/AI-related stuff instead. I am surprised the pig people didn't try to throw together some AI bullshit initiatives
>>112555345roru roru rumao. Japanese companies keep everyone and promote them. 741 employees by the way.
>>112555358At this point, AI Holo EN would be better than what we have now.
>>112555345This >>112555376It's why they keep useless backwards managers who are nearly 50-yrs old
>>112555403Did you see what happened with IRyS when she used grok? holoEN will get cancelled immediately lol. AI hate is real in the west
>>112555429People on twitter are not real,otherwise the Homos would be successful, Nerissa would be the biggest talent in EN, and ERB would be a close second.
>>112555429Her mistake was posting about it on twitter. ERB got cancelled for Israel but CC talked about Israel a bunch of times on stream and nothing happened. Similarly for IRyS and ChatGPT, holo members talk about GPT and even do streams of AI shit and nothing ever happens because the people who react like rabid animals when they see the-current-thing don't watch streams.
>>112555358Japan is using AI everywhere. Cover already got caught a few times, but most nips don't care so it would be an entirely western drama that they'd barely understand. If anything if that happens it's even more incentive to give up on EN audiences.
>>112555481The best course of action is to just admit it and be frank about the reason. Like the Stellar Blade company that had the CEO just basically saying "we can't compete with chinese slave labor with our 150 man team if we don't use AI, so we'll continue to use it."
It's not a coincidence that IRyS is getting a sololive and is one of the best streamers in EN.
>>112555521Pretty much. People cry about AI for a day then proceed to still buy the products and use them. Everyone is using it now. Hell, FUWAMOCO should be using it to improve their streams and set up because it's going to be significantly better than whatever cover isn't providing in terms of support.
The cc drama is breaking containment. I'm sure no ruffians will speak up still.
>>112556344She shold have nuked him. Her reaction was better than Nerissa's melty, but even better is just nuking the person and pretending it never happened.Even that is often not enough, as you can see by a bunch of permabanned ruffian schizos who still stalk them to this day, so giving schizos attention is never the move.
>>112556344Speak up on what? Say "Hey FUWAMOCO we want more streams?" They'll just say the same thing they always do. "We're fluffy and fuzzy, but there are exciting things in the future we want you to look forward too. And there are SO MANY GAMES AND STREAMS we want to do too."
>>112556344what happened?
>>112556448Told her local schizo to kill himself
>>112556448She replied to a schizo otomo that has been complaining about a lack of streams by telling him to accept how it is now or to fuck off and watch other girls that do stream. I saw that he's the one that first came up with the autofister name and now all he does is bitch about her doing collabs, kek.
>>112556650More like "has been complaining about anything that's trendy to complain about on /vt/ for several years">>112556727
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>>112556839He was a teamate too? Explains a lot.
Ok but can someone ask in the members post if they can at least post the monthly wallpapers?
>>112557013I mean to be fair, that means he has experience with a cute girl streaming a lot and then going to no streams so he probably has trauma.
>>112556839From what I've seen of him, he's never really said anything wrong. He says what every Hololive fan thinks but doesn't have the courage to say. People just don't like him because he doesn't filter his language.
>>112557132its funny that assholes that no one likes always think that everyone secretly agrees with them but is too cowardly to say itno bro, actually normal people disagree with you and just think you're a schizo
>>112557189Feel free to stay in your hugbox.
>>112557241sorry you feel called out, bud
