No trolling, no shitposting, and without schizo bs...what exactly did she do wrong?Why do so many people hate her and what has she done to deserve that? Can anyone answer that, like, seriously?
>>112574436>make her former co-workers do damage control about her reasons to graduate which turned out to be mostly lies>handicaps her gen for a year by dropping out of all group projects to prepare for her indie debut>announce her real reason for graduation (LLD) only after dropping merch and having a concert>marriage announcement on vtuber account >marry a cringe male vtuber that damaged hololive
>>112574940This, she "no refunds" her fans. All that and of course she is a bad person overall when you check the PL.
>>112574436>Leaving hololive>Not being a celibate virgin until the day she diedThat just about sums it up
>>112575022Well said sis
>>112574436Vagueposting, bitching and cuckholdry
>>112574940I have never seen a big whore like her in the chuuba world and I probably will never see one
>Some simp actually gave her a 20k donoAmazing.
>>112574436Hololive fans will stalk you for the rest of your life if you leave their corpo you're supposed to stay at hololive even if they continuously fuck you over.
She refuses to say Geralt's name properlyhttps://x.com/ceresfauna/status/1864420368552984764
She pretended to be a CGDCT vtuber while in hololive, but when she fucked off she promptly revealed she'd been doing picrel every stream.I think talking about your dating life is a dumb move no matter what but if you're going to do it, talk about it when you start dating instead of retroactively making cucks of your viewers.
>Quits Hololive because she doesn't want to be swamped with bullshit work and sponsorships 24/7 like current EN is>Thinks she needs to do the LLD because some rando high-up knows lots about multiple big talents, maybe her, and is threatening to out a lot of them for being married or dating>People seethe here endlessly for 'ruining' EN by leaving, while ignoring Gura, Ame, and Mumei only because she said that management sucked and it wasn't worth the stress to stayReally, just whiney fags who see her as the reason EN died, which says a lot given she actually streams frequently.
>>112574436holocucks hate her because she actually streams
>>112574436She exposed the fact that Hololive girls and Holostars are actually interacting behind the scenes and some of them are even having sex and dating each other.
>>112574436We're currently busy shitting on CC at the moment, can you make this thread again in a few days?
>>112574940this
>>112574436The LLD is the main thing obviously. And unless you are the newest newfag you know that.But in case you are a newfag, she came from an idol vtuber company where even collabing with males on stream can sink a streamers viewership and merch sales. She was well aware of the expectations viewers have for vtubers and why they watch them. She baited her old fans to follow her to her new persona after graduating. She then milked her old fans for hundreds of thousands of subs and tens of thousands of dollars in merch sales and memberships. She conned her old genmates who don’t do male collabs either into collabing with her and joing her “idol” concert. Then after she got everything she wanted, she dropped a nuke on her fans and colleagues alike that she was getting married and actively trying to have a baby, ie. getting fucked in bed every night. She canon balled through the norms of vtubing, she milked her old fans for simp bucks and then publicly cucked them, she tricked her old colleagues into publicly giving her their sea of approval, and she did all of this knowing just how much of an issue it’d be for her fans and her friends. And her lore drop was completely voluntary and unnecessary.
>>112575473TRVTHNVKE
What the fuck is an LLD
>>112575719Little LoreDropA rerefence to her tweet announcing that she is getting married
>>112575719Little Lore Drop
>>112575678All done with intention. She knew what would happen and planned it out. Like some sort of spy novel. Now her new grift is wedding money.
>>112575290>She pretended to be a CGDCT vtuber while in hololiveYeah, that was her job
So basically itt she playing 4d chess while these schmucks were still on checkers
Every female vtuber that meets, dates, and marries a male vtbuer coworker just gives more credence to cuckposting antis. By doing this she damages the image of the company, the industry as a whole, and casts suspicion on all her friends and coworkers as well since people will inevitably begin to wonder if they're doing it too.
>>112575850Crazy part is people actually found out sooner. She got exposed real quick but vtuber madness was in full swing and people were still dealing with covid shit. People found out Fauna wasn't who she said she was. Dig further and it gets even weirder with Lily. Everybody remembers LLD because she came out personally and put her boot on her fan's throats.
>>112574436She pushes an always loving and positive image but feels petty and vindictive sometimes and that rubs me the wrong way
>>112574940And I forgot to add>some of her co-workers took a monetary hit to support her fiance by collabing with him while she pretended to not care about male vtubers to collect more money. Then they both left with the spoils.Probably explains why many of them don't interract with her anymore after her announcement
>>112574436Fucked the orc. If it had been literally anyone else /vt/ wouldn't be as mad. I think people here would had preferred her to fuck even a hated nijien like vox than the orc. Even the blue homo would had been better. Everything else is a post rationalization.
>>112575930kek based it's a doggy dog world
>>112575850More like a regular scam artist.She milked her fans and used her friends, and then after getting what she wanted fucked both of them over.I think she thought she was popular enough to tank the Lore Nuke and remain popular and successful. Instead she has basically become the cuck chair meme of vtubing.
>>112575866>people will inevitably begin to wonder if they're doing it too.There's no need to wonder. A vast, vast majority of female vtubers are already in a relationship. The fact that so many people are delusional and think "there's no my MY oshi is like that" just emphasizes how pathetic this industry is as a whole.I'd expect this sort of behavior from Koreans(which is what the current idol scene is modeled around(no I don't want to hear any of you fucking weebs with your "ackshually" because you're wrong)) because they're fucking stupid and believe in shit like fan death but the fact that the delusions translated to the West is very concerning.
>>112575918>vtuber madnessNo, stupid faggots here will do ANYTHING to pretend nothing is going on behind the scenes, even with evidence. Add in that their follow-up cope is that the only reason they really cared was because she announced it on her main account publicly and that made them even madder because 'SHE'S BREAKING CHARACTERRRRR'.
>>112575866Exactly. The amount of people who want to be fans are now standoffish and holding back subs and donos. Vtubers have come out complaining how little they get paid now too. Vtubing in the west as a whole has gone down. Nimi didn't drop a little lore, she dropped a goddamned nuke.
>>112575997She's still comfortably in top 3 EN indies and doing very well numberwise, comparable to Holos without the cover cut.
>>112575918I know I’m gonna come across as a total tourist but….qrd? Who tf is lily
>>112576008>A vast, vast majority of female vtubers are already in a relationship.It's not a vow of chastity, retard
>>112576028Lemonleaf. Her asmr channel, she mentions it as Nimi and it's linked in her profile.
>>112576008Nobody cares what they do in their personal life. But fucking your coworkers while working at an idol company is no longer just your personal life. And having a marriage announcement dropped publicly is something nobody wants.
>>112575930>some of her co-workers took a monetary hit to support her fiance by collabing with himShe's dating someone in Stars?
>>112576028Lemonleaf (Lily) 1st vtuber persona and YES, still active Fauna (Hololive era)Nimi (Today)
>>112576055>completely missing the pointRetard.>>112576064>Nobody cares what they do in their personal life.Retard.
>>112576008Most people don't care about relationships with no name normies that don't get announced on main, but she blatantly left to date a co-worker streamer
>>112575997Very disingenuous. No she isn’t getting her holo viewership but which corpo turned indie is? Her view count is stable, she’s less burdened by perms and she’s throwing a concert pretty soon (selling out or not that’s another thing). All things considered I’d say she got her cake and more.
>>112576064>Something nobody wantsExcept her. You forgot that people have autonomy.Let's not forget that Holo is just a job. Some are life or death about it because they care a lot about the idol stuff, others don't give a shit and try to work under the constraints because it's easy money and fans, and another chunk just stop caring and decide to move on from the job.
>>112574940/thread
>>112576114Easier to ignore the bullshit happening in-house by just deflecting to everyone else and crying about how others 'ruined' HoloEN.
>>112576072randon the orc = noir vesper
>>112576072Yes, Vesper now known as Randon
oh uh, continuous and prolonged incel melty
>>112576105>Most people don't care about relationships with no name normiesThen explain why secrecy regarding relationships run rampant?>t-t-they just want privacy!Yet many of them expose a fuckton of actually exploitable personal information, show themselves on stream, openly attend massive public events, etc. Nah, that excuse doesn't fly.
>>112576062Oh well yah I knew bout her previous persona. Never heard it called lily. I knew she used to rock with shondo’s group and all that. What about the other stuff you mentioned?
>>112576115That’s true. She can do what she wants.But if she wanted to Lore Drop a marriage announcement she should have done it before milking her fans of thousands of dollars and using her friends.People have every right to call her a selfish grifter when she purposefully hid the announcement until after she got what she wanted.
To add to everything that has been already said, remember that her LLD is an extra insult coming from her because she herself did the "we are not friends" speech.
>>112576149I’ve reread this like five times and I’ve know clue what ur trying to say
>>112576203>if she wanted to Lore Drop a marriage announcement she should have done it before milking her fans of thousands of dollarsWhen, retard? Imagine if she announced the marriage immediately after leaving Hololive.
>>112574436Can't sing, dance, or asmr. Siphons money from her simps then LLDs to fuck with them
>>112576214That was her blatantly trying to save retards from themselves, but well, good luck.This is a business model for Hololive, btw. Yagoo is not gonna save you
>>112576203Or that Nimi was created a full year before her official debut while she was still Fauna. She really pulled strings to get that project working.
>>112576164>>112576165Which of them admitted this?
>>112576254Like when she was preparing to debut?>”Hey guys! Little lore drop! I’m getting married soon! And my fiancé will be there watching my debut with all of you!”She could have EASILY told her audience predebut. Or even post debut but before shilling merch and opening memberships and conning Saba and Dooby into collabing with her.
>>112576203>Don't milk me like this!>YOU HAVE TO MILK ME LIKE THIS!You're a brainless faggot. If you're throwing money away on a woman you will never meet because it makes you feel like you have an internet girlfriend, you're a fucking retard and should kill yourself. I know there's still people who watch her who just blank out everything she says like her little talk about watching 2 weddings on vacation and thinking about her own. Just go back to waifuing anime women instead of simping for a living being if you're gonna be this autistic.>>112576238HoloEN is having a pretty shit time right now, basically everything is down and talents are bemoaning the fact that the future might not have anywhere near the same support as it did in the recent year or two. Instead of focusing on that and talking about what can be done, like streaming more from the lazy shitters in the branch to attract new fans. They sit around making threads like this complaining about old talents and how badly they 'ruined' the reputation of HoloEN and how that's the reason EN is dying.
>>112576275What are you talking about?, yes, this is vtubing we all know, we are in /vt/ remember?
>>112576312I didn’t given her a cent. And I stopped watching her after her unnecessary and mean “not friends” remark. I just think what she did was fucked up. And I think her status as Cuckling Chair Queen in the community is deserved.
>>112576254>Imagine if she announced the marriage immediately after leaving Hololive.Then congrats and good luck. Would have been tasteful and showed tact on her part. Would have been received well too. I would still support her, sad but still there.
>>112576193>relationships that don't get announced on mainBecause vtubing is about playing a role of a cute anime girl for entertainment and escapism. Relationship talk is not conducive to that
>>112576358The delusion.
>>112576355>Cuck chair queenAgain, mentally ill mentality on full display. The 'Not friends' hurt you bad because she was your green, soft-spoken girlfriend substitute and you're somehow STILL bitter about it, what, 3 years later? Fucking christ dude.
>>112576355I wonder about the intention of the Chair video now? Maybe I am looking into it too much?
>>112576358she is a streamer first and a vtuber second
>>112574436>No trolling, no shitposting, and without schizo bs...That's all you're going to get. And I think you already knew that.
>>112576403I mean it wasn’t a huge deal. I just stopped watching. There are plenty of other chuubas who aren’t a total bitch to watch.But yes I have the ability to remember things that happened a couple years ago. Is that an uncommon skill in Jakarta and Brownland?
>>112576425Now she clearly is
>>112574940>>that damaged Hololive
>>112576358Correct. Holo shoves the IRL dating stuff into the background for the cute vibe. If a fan doesn't think that the girls might have normal lives outside their character though (including sex with men), they're a fucking retard.
>>112574940
No lie it did have an impact on all of us. More vtubers are copying her actions and meeting the same results. Fans are shit testing other vtubers to see if they will crack and spill a confession. You have to admit things have totally changed since the good ol' days.
>>112576461All Holos are lesbian, retard-chama
>>112576488Marine is the ONLY vtuber I hope gets a husband because she is so old and lonely. I don't want to because you know... but I hope someone steps up.
>>112576526People want to make sure they won’t get Lore Nuked after supporting an oshi for multiple years. And people want stronger barriers between their oshis and male vtubers (sexpests) now. And it’s understandable.
>>112576526Who gives a fuck if they're dating or married or whatever? The only reason you'd care is if you're emotionally invested in them being your one and only girlfriend and afraid of having the illusion be cracked one day. Quit simping for women, donate if you like their content, and leave it at that.
>>112576312I mean I agree. It’s 4chan so I’m always posts thinking that the whining about talents is either a) shitpost b) anti who’s doing it in bad faith. Regardless vtubing across the board is on the decline, but to be quite frank I don’t see any big big downgrade in the holo experience? Like they’re still doing concerts selling out merch et cetera. What’s the benchmark for success? Subs and viewership like gura? She’s pretty much lightning in a bottle, even saba if u buffed her with like a koyori work ethic will prob never make those numbers. The constant doomering is pretty much made up in my eyes
>>112576591I’m already working on it, anon. Hopefully preggers soon.
>>112574436>what exactly did she do wrong?getting married
>>112576610>Who gives a fuck if they're dating or married or whatever?Get a load of this clueless retard. Are you young or just stupid?
>>112576610I really love how you keep trying to dismiss this issue when you know full well what the ramifications are. You really think you are doing them a favor don't you? If you don't care then prove it by finding your way out of the thread.
>>112576568
>>112576610I will never understand this delusion.The entire fan base is single men using vtubers as a proxy for a woman in their life. That’s the entire business model.It’s always so weird to see people make it out like people are just here for the game playthroughs.
>>112576634>One man dying of thirst watching another man drownPottery
>>112576694No, anon. You could just enjoy it as entertainment for what it is. "The entire fan base is single men using vtubers as a proxy for a woman in their life" is cope to make those people feel better about themselves. That's why it's so hard for them to back off that position. The ego hit is not pleasant.
>>112576616I actually listen to what talents are saying on stream instead of plugging my ears and pretending things are fine. All of EN was pushing Serenderpity as if it were a pretty important piece of future support for them, and it seems like multiple old-timers are pulling out their alt personas for a go-around. It's not indicative of the full destruction of EN or anything, but that along with things like limited of everyone except FWMC really not selling out until the last few days for their b-day, all this doom and gloom talk, and the stress the talents seem to be under by their own admission makes me wonder what's happening.>>112576694I am and have been since the start. I've bought multiple Holo's merch and moved between talents because the streaming choices get boring to watch or the talent I liked at the time changed up their streaming habits or got stale in terms of funny-ness. I still spend money, have gone to concerts for fun, and enjoy my time with vtubing without needing to feel like they're my girlfriend proxy.>>112576683The ramifications are they lose a chunk of people who are trying to find a waifu and using real women to do it. It's as pathetic as the fags who simp all day long for onlyfans girls or other shit twitch flesh streamers.
>>112576456Well, the people that collabed with him certainly took a hit for a while. And he only cared for hololive collabs while ignoring his genmates and left after having a retarted breakdown
>>112576772>It's as pathetic as the fags who simp all day long for onlyfans girls or other shit twitch flesh streamersThis has been around a long time in the west, it's not something that magically appeared with "idol culture" which the average 4channer knows nothing about anyway. Same old shit.
>>112576742There’s a reason why the audience is almost entirely single men. And a reason why almost all of the successful vtubers are women. Nobody is here for the “entertainment”. They’re here for the girls first and the entertainment second.You might not like how that sounds. But that’s literally the business model anon. That’s why nobody wants to watch your homos and why the biggest homos are 3 views. That’s why girls who are mediocre gamers and terrible singers are raking in six figures a month.You’re delusional.
>>112576694Who’s we bro. I’m here for the banter
>>112576842Being a homosexual outlier doesn’t change the fact that the vast majority of the audience are lonely single men.
>>112574436>holo yab happened>b-but what about NimiEvery fucking time.
>>112575678it really broke the illusion that more than likely most of them were kind just hiding a relationship behind the scenes and just never said anything about itwhy she did eventually say something about it? no fuckin idea but the unspoken point a > point b thinking of....wait a minute this means she was already in a relationship behind the scenes if she was getting married out of no where.. pretty easy logic to follow
>>112576826Right, yet they pretend to understand idol culture and want to be part of it. Funny that I've probably been to more small idol concerts from going to them at places like cons than the fags purporting how important 'idol' culture is while only having gone to a handful of Holo concerts.
>>112574436calling them people is a bit too charitable
>>112576891We know the HOW, people just want to know the WHY. I feel like there is more to the story too. I just don't know how deep this rabbit hole goes. Of course well will find out after the wedding. Slim chance of a break up too since statistically people who have been together that long will stay together, which is where more story will be told.
>>112576840I can like Kizuna AI (and I do) without needing to know the VA or think she's my fake internet gf. I think it's cool and cute but I'm very aware she's not a real person. I don't care if she's married either. What do you think of that? Or do you not consider her a "real vtuber". Go ahead, explain yourself.
>>112576891People speculate that it was because of the random high-up at VShojo who also had some ties in Holo and Niji was spouting off about talents having relationships behind the scenes and was threatening to reveal them at the time. Guessing she just figured she'd bite the bullet then instead of possibly getting outed not of her own accord.
>>112576874Vtuber models have never gotten me off once. The voices are nice sure but you rlly fully have to start hallucinating if you think the actor puppetting this stiff ass model is a girlfriend substitute.
>>112577076>VshojoThis is one of the things I really wanted to know more on. I knew they were bad but I didn't know how bad. For some reason I think black company bad. I imagine a world in which Nimi joined them along with her other indie avengers.
>>112577126Yeah, you're gay
>>112577143Very very badT. Ksonfag
>>112575017>All that and of course she is a bad person overall when you check the PL.Care to elaborate?
>>112577143Head guy spent a shit ton of money and also embezzaled a bunch as well while keeping his talents roped-a-doped along with promises of future payment to keep the system going. At one point it just fell apart. There's rrats about Gura and Fauna quitting to specifically join up with VShojo and then it went kaplooey. No idea if that was ever real, but I do know those two, along with Mumei obviously either didn't want to do the idol work and infinite homework the current crew are under duress about, or they thought it'd be more relaxed with vshojo than they were seeing with Holo.
>>112574436 (me)Well, that's basically what I imagined.I was aware of some of these things, but I didn't want to believe that people actually hated her because... She got married and moved on with his life... That's literally it.>She got her friends to support her debut and then announced her marriage, damaging the image of her friendsMfs do you really think her friends, like Saba and company, didn't know she was married? And that this was going to be announced? What world do you live in that you think they wouldn't want to publicly support Nimi just because she was getting married, so somehow she had to deceive them to get their support? Like...??I swear, some of you urgently need to get out of your room and get some sunlight. Jesus Christ
>>112577054I didn’t say thinking they’re your girlfriend.I said a proxy for a woman in their life.And I’m absolutely correct on that. They aren’t watching for the mediocre gameplay skills or karaoke level singing. They’re there because it’s a cute anime girl. And you’re coping if you think that’s not true for most of the fan base.Also comparing Kizuna AI, who was pre live-streaming days is kind of disingenuous. People watch live-streaming female streamers on a daily basis. That’s different than watching a 10 minute pre recorded video.
>>112577255Funny you talk about livestreaming as if everyone watches live always for the interaction. I'm this dude >>112576772 and mostly watch VoDs if the talents I like don't happen to be live on a day I have free time at night. I know for a fact that a majority of their viewers aren't like me, so I won't play dumb in that regard, but I do think it's absolutely retarded to do what you're doing and you deserve to get burned
>>112577255She's still around you fucking tard. She did a live like a month or two ago and a video. Kyshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgqaVtnX8I0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnbCGVLoQ1E
>>112577151U chopped
>>112577236>me when I ask something and ignore all the reasoningWhy do you think Dooby unfollowed her after her announcement? Coincidence am I right, sister?
>>112577308 (me)Actual live --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxxZ-9EwtcI
Imagine a grifter vtuber being part of the worst vtubing agency.
>>112574940Who cares?
>>112577589Righteous upstanding individuals such as myself
>>112577373>Why do you think Dooby unfollowed her after her announcement?>I open Twitter>Nimi nightmare account >"Followers you know">@dooby3DPeople recalling been making shit up huh
>>112577236Dooby literally said she didn't know and immediately said that they weren't really friends and rarely spoke to her. Not to mention unfollowing her and only re-followed her after it broke containment
>>112574436she had a lot of fans here, so there will obviously be a reaction.
>>112577625She only refollowed her months later after a post about it started gaining traction. Just check the archive
>>112577680But that's not really new. If you really watch Fauna, you know that she and Ame were never very hard friends. They are the type of people who end up interacting because of a mutual friend (Gura/Saba)
>>112577721Literally making shit up twin
There's a 95%+ chance your favorite vtuber is/has been dating and I'm sure more than a few are married as well. If you are watching vtubers for anything other than entertainment you are a retard. I simply dont like Nimi because she's boring.
>>112576008I don't speak for everyone obviously but it seems to me fans are for the most part okay with some people having relationships OUTSIDE OF WORK, like Azki for example. But people really don't like finding someone through the job, whether that be a producer, manager, e sports coach, male vtuber they collab with, or even a male vtuber from the same company. I don't make the rules, but this is what I've noticed.
>>112577903It's not that she's married, it's who she's married to and the way she went about announcing it and her actions leading up to it
>>112575800Jesus, it's nearly been a whole year since that?
>>112577921People tend to marry people they are in proximity to (proximity rule). It's why people will get together based off of work, school, clubs, other groups. Even online you have to be part of their group to get vetted. You have to build rapport first.
>>112577236She isn't actually married yet btw. She announced she was engaged, and no one actually knows when she got engaged. For all we know, it was the same day she announced it
>>112574436Keeping your fans at arms length for years, essentially never interacting with them beyond repost spam, only to drop that out of nowhere was fucked up. It didn't make any sense
>>112578418>it was the same day she announced itMaybe? That is one of the biggest things for a woman to experience so yeah, wanting to tell the world as soon as possible would make sense. People forget the real wedding is done in a courthouse and that could have happened at any time. The ceremony is just a formality.
>>112574436>Nimi thread >the most schizophrenic mindbroken wall of texts you’ll see on this board every time kek
>>112578684>the real wedding is done in a courthouseWhy do people keep repeating this? The person who performs your ceremony can also sign your paperwork if they're qualified. Plenty of couples get "officially" married at their ceremony, not at a courthouse
>>112578524but enough about Gura
>>112578843Because that's where the official documents have to be signed and notarized. A marriage isn't a romantic gesture, it's a legal contract which splits taxes and property first and foremost. It's also made public too. Most places take this stuff very serious and things like prenups and attorneys have to be taken into account. Sure, some places can do it all, but most don't.
If you don't like Nimi being married you can just not watch her you don't have to throw a tantrum about it
>>112575678>Then after she got everything she wanted, she dropped a nuke on her fansShe didn't quit after she got marriedShe continues to stream and do concerts and everything else
>>112577721You can just look at the follow order to confirm it too lol
>>112578966I was going to explain that you don't have to sign or notarize the license at a courthouse (and most people don't), but I think I just don't care as much as you do. You can go argue with someone else
>>112574436some retards really thought they had a shoot with her or something...
>>112579180She was claimed long in the before times. DOA.
>>112574436>what exactly did she do wrong?everything
>>112574436She promised Gigi she would watch her on stage and then overlapped her first concert
>>112574436she made kronii literally cut her out of her life.
>>112574436nepohired her bf then proceeded to pretend everything was cool for a year when he was fired
>>112574436She did basically nothing wrong. most of the real gripes with Fauna is that she's not what /vt/ wanted her to be, which is basically pillowdear but in Hololive
>>112574940My favorite part is that Bae and Kronii basically act like she never existed. Both of them played fangames that had Fauna in it and both of them COMPLETELY stayed quiet when she appeared on stream while they acknowledged Sana.God knows what the fuck she did to them to warrant that treatment. Besides getting her fans to call them bootlickers.
>>112576772>>112577293>>112577255it doesn't generally go as far as "she's my girlfriend", but you and the vtubers are both delusional if you believe most people watch them for their mediocre musical outputs or whatever. the "cute girl" part is pretty important; they don't want a "girlfriend", just a non-negative interaction with a woman. (broad definition of "interaction", but you get what I mean.)
>>112576616why would you assume none of the complaints here are genuine? other places aren't exactly receptive to complaints.
>>112581777>>112577293>>112577255cuteness is a general skill of women, you might be familiar with it. and it's easier when they don't have to show their real face.
>>112576568yurifags are the absolute worst
>>112574940fpbp
