>>112643876
OP's Gay BBC Orgies are also self funded in case y'all didn't know

Post an image and article link rather than a twitter screenshot, and maybe I'll reply to (you)

>>112643876
i’ve never heard of her

Come to the Hoshimachi house, she’s personally feeding all the holomem.
https://youtu.be/kzHQ4D7QVqI?is=fjz9x66u63oondsl

>>112643876
Interesting how some of them are legitimately rich (like Coco when she was living her best hollywood life) while others are barely scraping by. Wish there was more transparency. I want to know how much they're all making for real.

>>112643876
Maybe stop having 3D lives then?

>>112644201
And avocado toast

>>112644156
Anonchama....Coco is the 1st Superchat in this world when she lived in Hololive but Aki losts her gachikoi from huge injury and surgery... Aki is underrated as fuck.

>>112644156
Funny you said this, coco complained about doing 3D lives being too expensive as an indie compared to being a corpo. Aki is kinda delulu being an indie

Fuck OP, I'll provide it
https://yutura.net/news/archives/157521

>>112643876
>Cover isn't helping
wdym? they let her use her copyrighted imagery, that's more than enough

>>112643876
>all the 3D lives are self funded, it's all her money, Cover isn't helping but they're taking a cut anyway.
Not even what picrel said. Outsourcing costs are self-funded (have always been), but studio recording, staffs and, well, anything that isn't outsourced is funded by Cover.
>>112644156
None of them is "barely scraping by". Even RBC bought a house in metropolitan Tokyo

We've known about this for years, people even jokingly call it yagoopay, the only thing here is Aki complaining about companies ask for bigger rates than they would to indies just because it's hololive

>I want to do unprofitable vanity projects that the company won't fully fund because they're unprofitable
>I don't have the money to do it either so I borrow money from the company
>nooo now I have to pay back the debt from those unprofitable vanity projects
Someone call the whambulance.

>>112644486
AI translation from the article:
>“It’s not like I immediately fall to the level of a struggling college student living on the edge. But when the amount coming in is simply zero, that’s tough.”

>>112643985
Fpbp.

>>112644523
Quote the entire line
>She replied, "I do have savings," but explained, "I don't immediately fall to the extreme level of living like a poor college student, but it's tough when you're simply not getting any money". Se revealed that during periods of no income, she has no choice but to dip into her savings.
And yes, having "periods of no income" doesn't mean "barely scraping by" unless you are only talking specifically on certain months. In overall, none of them has money trouble, including Aki who said right there that she has money saved up

>>112643876
Just post the transcription if you're going to make shit up, it already looks bad enough. Anyways, it's not new that hololive lends money to the girls so they can do their own personal lives and then discount the amount from their salaries, multiple girls have talked about going months with no salary by now, I don't think it's a good practice after seeing Haachama's meltdown, but it is what it is.
The one thing that I don't agree with is that they don't pay for the choreography teachers and lessons, it's a fucking idol group, at least do this much.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/IDuvUiBRbwQ

アキロゼ「0円の給料明細を何度見たことか。だから正直にお金欲しいもん今は一番」
けんき「どのぐらいのレベルでお金なくなるの?(ライブ)やると。大学生ぐらいまでなくなるの?」
アキロゼ「所持金がってこと?」
けんき「うん。貧乏大学生ぐらいまでなくなるの?それとも余裕ないなぁっていう将来に不安を抱える社会人ぐらい?」
アキロゼ「貯金がないかって言われたらある。すぐに貧乏大学生の貧乏生活までには落ちないけど、単純に入ってくるものが0円だと苦しいよねっていう状態」
アキロゼ「だから切り崩すしかない入ってこないときは」
けんき「つまり残高が減ってくっちゅーことやんな。それでもなおやろうって思うのは何でなの?」
アキロゼ「うわー。最初はそんなかかんなかったはずなんだけどね。インフレしてる」
アキロゼ「これすごい突っ込んだ話するかもしれないけど大分みんな脳が疲れてきてるからそろそろいいかなって思って話すけど」
アキロゼ「ホロライブじゃん?ホロライブで依頼出すじゃん。製作物とか」
アキロゼ「そうすると企業価格でとられるわけ。当然ながら」
けんき「そうだよねホロライブさんの仕事だと思って請けるわけだもんなw」
アキロゼ「だけど実際は100%アキロゼ個人持ちだから。」
けんき「あーだからあれだ全然手抜いてもらえないんだ請求w」
アキロゼ「ブランド価格みたいなのを請求されるけど結局それを払うのは個人負担だから、大分しんどい」
アキロゼ「個人勢の人をうらやましく思ってしまう瞬間がどうしてもあるw」
けんき「確かにホロライブからの仕事だったらクオリティはもちろん頑張らないといけないけど逆に言えば『このぐらいいけるっしょ』って請求飛ばすよなw」
アキロゼ「クオリティ担保してとか高い値段の意味もわかるけど~ブランド代を払うのはこっちでそっから売上も持ってかれるしみたいな」
けんき「え、あれ?あれってそうなの?あ」
よいち「そうだね、私請ける側だからさ。うっすらわかるわw」
けんき「それってさ負担は演者なんでしょ?けど持ってかれちゃうんだ。一部。一部だよね言うて」
アキロゼ「まぁ一部よりもっと強くいいたい。そういうのを払うならもっとくれるべきなんじゃないかと。欲しいなってなっちゃうw」
けんき「wwwいいねwこういう会話がしたかった俺は」


Akirose: “I've lost count of how many times I've looked at a salary stub that says ‘0 yen.’ So honestly, what I want most right now is money.”
Fleshie: “How broke do you get when you do a live show? Do you end up as broke as a college student?”
Akirose: “You mean in terms of cash on hand?”
Fleshie: “Yeah. Do you end up as broke as a poor college student? Or more like a working adult who feels anxious about the future because they're barely scraping by?”
Akirose: “If you're asking if I have any savings, I do. I don't immediately fall into the kind of poverty a college student might face, but it's a situation where, simply put, if my income is zero, it's tough.”
Akirose: “So when nothing's coming in, I have no choice but to dip into my savings.”
Kenki: “So basically, your balance just keeps going down. Why do you still want to keep doing this even then?”
Akirose: “Ugh. It wasn’t supposed to cost that much at first. It’s getting more expensive.”
Akirose: “This might be a pretty deep topic, but everyone’s brains are pretty tired right now, so I figured it’s about time to bring it up.”
Akirose: “Take Hololive, for example. You submit requests to Hololive, right? For productions and stuff.”
Akirose: “When you do that, they charge corporate rates. Naturally.”
Fleshie“That’s right. You take the job thinking it’s for Hololive, lol.”
Akirose: “But in reality, 100% of it comes out of my own pocket.”
Kenki: “Ah, so that’s why they don’t cut me any slack on the bill, lol.”
Akirose: “They charge me this ‘brand premium,’ but since I’m the one footing the bill in the end, it’s pretty rough.”
Akirose “There are definitely moments when I find myself envying the independent creators, lol.”
Fleshie: “True, if it’s work from Hololive, you obviously have to strive for quality, but on the flip side, you can just send a bill thinking, ‘This should be good enough,’ right? lol”
Akirose: “I get why they ask for quality guarantees and charge high prices, but… we’re the ones paying for the brand, and then they take a cut of the revenue on top of that.”
Fleshie: “Huh? Wait, is that how it works? Oh.”
Yoichi: “Yeah, that’s right. I’m on the receiving end, so I kind of get it lol.”
Fleshie: “So the burden falls on the performers, right? But they still take a cut. A portion. They say it’s just a portion, though.”
Akirose: “Well, I want to say it even more strongly than ‘a portion.’ If they’re going to pay for that, shouldn’t they give us more? I just end up thinking, ‘I want more’ lol.”
Fleshie: “Lol, that’s great lol. This is exactly the kind of conversation I wanted to have.”

>>112644347
also Cover is paying them with exposure. the Blue Dorito logo ensures their CCV will stay at consistent 4 digits.

>>112644547
Gee wiz why would Aki "I stream 4 times a year" Rose have periods of 0 income from her dead youtube channel? Could it be that she doesn't stream anymore?

>>112644565
>paying them with exposure

>>112644520
It's literally the purpose of a talent agency to fund your vanity projects. Those projects exist to promote you, they are marketing. They're not profitable the same way that an ad on tv doesn't directly make any money.

A talent agency that takes a cut of their talent's earnings but doesn't spend anything to promote their talent isn't a talent agency, it's just pimping.

>>112644569
She's literally live now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=882wf7kV8sA
>wait, was this a covert shilling thread

>>112644520
I'm so tired of this shit and the pitty begging that comes from it once the talents actually start feeling slight pressure from their own choices. Everyone acts like they can be the next Suisei, but 90% of them aren't liked at all for their music or dancing, yet act like it's the most important thing to them and their fans.

>>112644514
Aki is being wrong and should ask kson about her experience on being scammed for expensive low quality 3D live. This is just a case of grass is always greener on the other side until she personally experienced it.

>>112644593
>It's literally the purpose of a talent agency to fund your vanity projects.
No, it isn't. Constantly funding peoples unprofitable ventures is how an agency goes bankrupt.
> Those projects exist to promote you, they are marketing.
They're also a horribly expensive form of marketing that will never pay off.

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>>112644574
i mean, try doing the exact same as an indie. you're lucky if you even get 100 CCV. people watch you because of the logo, not by your own merits. it is what it is.

>>112644598
Yeah if you've been following Aki for any period of time you'd have noticed her pattern of doing content on her pl until she needs money and then doing a flurry of holo streams before going back to her pl again. She was the pioneer of doing morning eating streams to suck off kaigainikki for extra dosh.

>>112644569
Aki streams relatively frequent, though. Granted, there are some months where her streaming frequency dropped drastically (i.e: 2026 Jan / March so far), but she usually streams about 13-15 times a month which should be more or less the average
Anyway, OP was being a faggot trying to twist what she said from
>Holo members have to pay for any outsourcing costs and those cost and arm and leg
to
>Holo members have to pay for everything when it comes to 3D so they are poor
which doesn't really work outside of shitposting since we already know how much Cover pays their talents on average

If you want the agency funding your concert and projects format, then the company will simply take a big cut and trust me they really don't want that format like most mainstream singers only take like a mear 5% from their music sales. Even akb idols don't earn as much as holos due to using that format.

>>112644660
multiple zero paychecks and exposure?

>>112644520
The company directly profits from said vanity projects though, the brand gains fame and recognition because holo 3D lives always hit big numbers, and if it's a birthday live they always get merch too so it's a way to promote sales which cover gets a cut.
Even if you argue "well, just don't do it", if her end goal is to do a sololive (which is pretty much for every holomen), releasing original songs, albums and doing 3D lives are a requirement for cover to greenlit. This system is shit, because yeah, you can opt out, but don't expect to grow if you do that.

>>112644609
>>112644616
Asian idol industries are notoriously exploitative. Hololive succeeded in part because it inverted that, as a warm and supportive place for all their talent. They can certainly squeeze their performers harder and churn through them more quickly and ruthlessly in the quest to stay profitable. They may lose a lot of their old audience that way.

>>112644668
in cover's case, they make you self-fund your project AND take a huge cut from it. that's even worse than what AKB idols are getting!

Dumb homocollaber whore lol

>>112644593
An agency cannot just keep funding whatever you want for your personal projects or they would've run out of money in the blink of an eye.
Take Marine's MVs, for example: her MVs always cost a ton and her latest cost something like $500K - $600K (yes, that's dollars, not yen). Imagine if Cover agreed to pay for that and suddenly all 60+ holo talents ask them $500K for their MVs, which will take them $30M to fulfill (those MVs don't make much money either, as Marine herself sad)
They already give talents free access to company's facility (studio usage is a big thing) and a small fund for personal projects so if talents want to exceed that (which most of them do), it's on them.

>>112644694
Excluding like top 10 akbs, your average shitter roboco is actually richer than average akb members. They would actually gladly swap places.

>>112644669
~$450K a year according to their very publicly available financial report.

I hope Cover is not paying for this dogshit damage control lmao

>>112643876
Good serves that homocollaber right

>>112644694
They don't take "a huge cut" from it. If anything, their cuts from merch is extremely generous if you want to compare to the idol scene
>that's even worse than what AKB idols are getting!
You clearly don't know anything. Where did you think Niji's 2% merch cut come from?

>>112644681
They mostly hit big numbers with the existing audience, so they're bad outreach.
If her end goal is to primarily be a music-oriented talent, she first has to grow her audience enough to make it worth it. A 3D doesn't do that, it just gauges the level of support she already has. She needs to just consistently make music and sing to put herself out there as an artist.
>>112644682
>Not losing a ton of money on unprofitable bullshit means we horribly exploit you
fuck off

It seems like only the runts complain about Hololive, yet almost none of them quit. Why is it that only the more profitable talents end up leaving?

>>112644610
Nahhhhh 3D Vshojo is dogshit but her own 3D live is very high quality

>>112644766
It's a lot easier to quit and chill in retirement mode or do whatever you want when you have millions saved up

Aki should become a sports athelete, you barely need any costs and you get a big cut out of almost anything.

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>>112644766
>Suisei preaching how runts should be grateful at being in Holo in the first place.

>>112644762
>she first has to grow her audience
>A 3D doesn't do that

>>112644766
A lot of holos soft retire silently and just do content on the side as an indie. It's a common-enough arrangement that there's probably some internal incentive from the company to go with that arrangement. Being in a corpo doesn't prevent you from doing shit on the side, as Mori and Kiara both regularly demonstrate.

>>112644834
NTA but 3D lives don't do that. A lot of the girls have said that original songs or 3D lives are more of their cool gifts to fans than something that makes money or profitable for their careers.
Throughout the history of Hololive, there are less than 10 girls who managed to grow from their 3D.

dont spend money you cant afford to lose. this is simple financial literacy, no?

>>112644660
>Less than half the month
>Normal
And that's got to change

>>112644844
And Cover has never really prevented talents from pursuing outside jobs, right? Noel has been balancing two jobs from the very beginning.
The thing is, those runts seem to assume that whatever they invest their money into will automatically become profitable just because they're affiliated with Cover. Is that what they're expecting?

>>112644552
i like how kenki becomes a person midway through and returns to being a simple flesh being in the end
epic character development arc
he gets to boink enako while playing around with chuubas all day tho so fuck him

>>112644898
Album sales are directly related to the chances of getting a solo live, no one is even trying to hide this.

This is probably a tactic from her to put pressure to get a better contract unless she is actually really dumb.

>>112643985
funny how your mind instantly drifted there, it's pretty telling anon

>>112644928
Cover's debt trap is to blame.
Some anons right argue that it saves money for the girls (true), but ultimately it obscure the burden of costs since those girls don't have to pay upfront.
It's like those "0% interest, pay in installments" schemes big bank use to bait you to spend money on stuffs you might not buy otherwise

>>112644682
A large swath of the talents beed ti remember that the only reason they have those fans in those seats at concerts or people watching their MV's, covers, and song releases is because they feel like they owe them for the content they've made over the years. No random person who doesn't know/barely knows about Hololive is gonna find their songs and think 'yeah, I wanna spend money on this!', it's the fans who've been there since the talents actually gave enough of a shit to stream who spend the money.

>>112645011
Yes, but 3D lives aren't album sales. Making original songs might be part of it but you don't need MVs for albums

>>112643876
That's because she outsourced it, ya nitwit. Cover's own studio is free use, but if they want a diff studio they gotta pay for it.

>>112645044
They should only offer those opportunities to the talents who have actually proven they can make them profitable.
Once again, they tried to be generous and give everyone the same opportunities, only to get stabbed in the back.

>>112645076
Tell me why I should pay for a retarded woman's impatience and frivolous waste of money?

>>112645101
Well yea, there's a reason why most nijis don't even have their own 3D lives and it's mostly group projects.

>>112645112
are you a Cover simp?

>>112645101
>stabbed in the back
kys holodrone

>>112645076
From the article, it's more like hiring composers, choreographers, commissioning arts or similar stuffs rather than studio usage

>>112645138
fuck you are you implying i'm a nijinigger?

>>112643876
That’s what happens to channels that exist to farm subscriber milestones instead of focusing on watch time and retention. Aki’s overseas success just led to dead subs and now she is stuck in the Salome dilemma of having 0 traction at all after sudden success

>>112645164
No, I don't really care much past the talents I like. Still irritates the fuck out of me with how much more often the talents feel like they're 'owed' shit like this and then throw money away hand over fist for something that gives me an hour or two of entertainment at best.

>>112643876
This might sound rude but maybe she should just stop doing 3D live? It's not profitable because nobody gives a fuck about her, people like Miko, Marine, Suisei are probably making fuckhuge profit every single time so they can keep doing it forever.

>>112645185
I'm baffled by how little self-awareness some of these talents seem to have. They're among the runts, yet they expect the same level of production as the biggest names in the industry without considering the costs involved.
The ironic part is that this became a problem because Cover didn't treat talents differently based on performance. They let everyone pursue the same projects and even provided money upfront.

>>112645346
>Cover didn't treat talents differently based on performance

>>112644898
I feel like they need a staff psychologist onboard to explain male psychology to these girls; going above and beyond your job requirements isn't particularly notable that's unfortunately the norm, explaining how your eschewing creature comforts to invest in long-term goals is a way better 'gift' for your viewers.

>>112645373
It's the reality, no matter how much you want to deny it.

>>112645346
yeah Nijisanji already figured it out. Cover should do the same.

>>112645381
You mean to guide talent on how to be successful in their market? Yes, you'd think management might have that function

>>112645400
Why sacrifice your profits only to get shit on for it?

>>112645373
>Every talents are under the same rules when it comes to streaming or singing
>Someone as big as Suisei had to follow the same process as runts like RBC or Matsuri to book the studio
>Every talents got the same tiny amount of funding for their personal projects (that can only handle slideshow kind of MVs according to Noel)
>Every talents can take the advance / loan from Cover for their projects
Yeah, they don't (as much as they can afford, at least)

>>112645428
that why Nijisanji should be treated as the Golden Standard of vtubing. this industry would be at its best if they follow Nijisanji's practices.

It's either the holo way of giving everyone the opportunity to 3D lives or the anycolour way of only giving opportunites to more profitable livers. Some holos are dumb with no self awareness or control to manage their own finances. It's not like they are forced to do a 3D live.

>>112645464
I don't give a fuck about Nijisanji's practices, but Cover's approach clearly isn't working out.

>>112645454
are they really? they rejected Haachama's proposal of doing her event at Tokyo Dome, but will gladly give that to Suisei no problem, because obviously she's more marketable.

>>112645381
>>112645421
Going as far as having psychologists asides, they do try to stop the girls if the projects are too ambitious and clearly not profitable, though.
That's part of the reasons why Haachama got her menhera episode before. She wanted to do a photo exhibition at a really big venue (she didn't say which, but she said that her dream would be doing something like Tokyo Dome) and they told her "Nope, you will be in the deep red, so no". They eventually relented and agreed to let her do it in a smaller venue but I assume at that point the damage was already done

>>112645421
To be fair If they haven't independently figured it out they're far beyond the help management can provide, one look at "Just Chatting" whilst Asmongold is streaming should be all they need to understand men love asceticism.

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Seems like once every 3 months some holo comes out to say she's skipping meals or budgeting eating nothing but instant ramen because their salaries are being withheld or they're paying off debt to cover wtf is going on? You had Kobo, Bae, Okayu and now Aki. There's many more too.

>>112645510
>they rejected Haachama's proposal of doing her event at Tokyo Dome
This NEVER EVEN HAPPENED. She tweeted "shoot for the stars!" and even reminded people not to take her so literally. My god you faggots are stupid

>>112643876
>spent all money
>said "i'm broke"
birthday lives are funded by mech themselves. crying about the cost makes no sense, retard!
also girly should stop being an outdoor night owl!

>>112645510
Alternative is haachama goes bankrupt because she cant even filled out her 10% of tokyo dome. At most she only can do a 3k venue.

>>112645510
They also rejected Pekora's project and Marine's project.

>>112645557
I meant, it's the same practice (they pay for the girls' personal projects and deduct that costs from future paychecks) so you will likely see the same outcome most of the time unless a girl sticks strictly to what Cover gives her without anything from external party (which most Holos don't)?

Most holos who complained about this type of stuff are old holos like aki and chama. Newer holos recruited are way more business savy.

>>112645652
usually when you apply for loans, they only take a fraction of your salary so you can at least take home something. Cover getting all of their salary as debt installment is just fucking brutal!

>>112645678
Old holos got much less support starting out because the whole concept was younger, audience smaller and Cover had fewer resources to spare. It's only natural they would have this complaint to make.
Newer holos just graduate when the debut support shilling dries up.

>>112643876
Black corpo

>>112643876
>Cover isn't helping but they're taking a cut anyway.
who is going to prepare her mech?

>>112645720
Aqua and Shion debuted only a few months after Gen 1, so I don't think debut timing has much to do with it.

>>112643876
Friendly reminder that corpos that get too large will hire on more useless staff, fuck around all day, and still expect the talent to earn enough to cover the cost of their useless existence.

>>112645699
Pretty sure that's somewhat negotiable (i.e: "Hey, Cover, can you take 80% of my payment each month instead of the full 100% so I can eat") according to La+. Most of these girls just don't need to bargain that way (or didn't think far enough to).
Even Aki here said that she only had to dip into her savings on the months without any paycheck. Cutting down on personal expenses, sure, but none of them was actually starving and being bankrupt because they took the loan

>>112645468
But my heckin fans might ask me where my 3d is and start comparing me to my successful peers so I HAVE to have one!

>>112645781
Have we now reached the point where we pretend Cover isn't chronically understaffed?

>>112645795
You are being sarcastic but I remember Fauna got shat on /here/ for not doing 3D live on her birthday or anniversary...

>>112645720
They got 'less support' because the base of the entire thing is STREAMING, yet these little shitters seem to think it's less and less important as time goes on and get all crybaby mode when the money that used to come in to fund their egotistical ventures starts drying up.

>>112645811
They need more managers, but less tech and upper management staffs

>>112645842
Roli?

>>112645851
Talents are using external studios because they don't have enough techs to run their own studios lmao
The fuck you guys mean

>>112645811
Cover isn't understaffed. They have a workload distribution problem.
The people who already have a lot of work in their hands keep getting overloaded because, for some reason, the company believes that all voices are equal in weight.

How many 3D lives does cover produce per year? I think this is kinda overlooked because there is probably no one else who churn out so many lives per year.

>>112645914
most of their staff are Holoearth devs that will become deadweight when the game shuts down next month.

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>>112643876
>spending money on cover's debt trap 3d lives

>>112643876
Why is she doing shit she can't afford to do? Is she retarded?

Not only did she have to get saved by kaigais years ago now she's begging for money. How much more pathetic can you get? She should just graduate already.

>>112643876
>>112644201
Seriously one of the biggest woman moments ever. I get the desire but holy shit if you don't actually have the money to spend then why are you doing this and why are you acting like the victim of your own retarded choice?

>>112645992
>How many 3D lives does cover produce per year?
Every girls get one guaranteed 3D live and one gen live (shared with other girls of the same gens, ofc) if they want to so that'll be around 80 (65 girls / 15 gens) at the minimum by the end of the year.
Not counting company-mandated lives (i.e: HoloFes, EN concert, NY, etc.) or "solo" lives (i.e: Drawn to Dawn, IRyS's, Nene's) yet

>>112645851
>less tech staffs
Brother a vast majority of Hololive can't even turn on their streaming software without help, Botan regularly has to do Improv tech support explaining shit like what is a HDMI cable and how to plug it in.

>>112646131
Because recognizing you're not one of the 5%-ers who don't need streams to build or keep an audience is really hard for about half of the talents. They think they're owed a successful 3dlive or MV or cover release when in reality they aren't owed shit and should budget themselves accordingly.

>>112644222
Aki mainly complained that the external commissions charged her with corpo prices and that was higher than what indies would get. She didn't say that the total cost of everything would've been lower if she was indie (studio usage costs a lot if you want proper quality).

They made a girl who was half way cripple take it all out of her pocket just to give a large farewell to her fans. What do you think OP?

>>112646169
Yea, that's almost 100 lives per year, don't think there's anyone in the entertainment industry who produced so much concert per year. May be some of the kpop major companies done it before.

>>112646005
The entire HoloEarth team only amounted to 7% of their employees, though? (second lowest among Cover's sections)

>>112643876
Suisei is one who talked about this years ago, she just also has built up the base to be able to fund this shit personally. The likes of Sora, AZKi and Mori are helped by being with an actual label instead of just under Cover.

>>112644124
*suisei clique members

Actually this billion dollar corporation is perfect and aki is a lying asshole

Phase is a similar setup

>>112646537
iirc the only time talents had to come out of pocket for a 3d live was the Invaders Wish thing, and that was because they went way overboard and super self indulgent wanting new 2d outfits, albums, concert and it personally lost those talents thousands.

I am pretty sure with the other lives, talents are not having to pay out of pocket and it is not negatively affecting their pay.
are they getting paid extra for the lives? No, I don't think so, but they get travel and hotel paid for and all that.
I think the difference is
>corpo approaches you about 3d live work? it costs the talent nothing
>talent approaches the corpo about 3d live work? it costs the talent something

This also shows that those e-celeb audiences don't pay her a dime.

>>112646537
No it isnt, most of their 3d is paid for by the company. You just have to pitch that it will actually be profitable

>>112643876
You'd think they get good rates on their own fucking studio kek

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>>112644552
That's why you sell merch to recoup it. And why they're much more in charge of what gets made. It's the trade off for having more creative control. Imagine how small everything would be if Cover paid for everything, multiplied by all the Holomem.

There would also be no anime music videos either because those are made at a complete loss.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOmS6Kn0bn8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3UTywBDSW4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_opjVlYhi4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BerwUFzdj4U

>>112644124
>A holopoor is using her shack as a soup kitchen for her fellow hobolive members
It's getting quite depressing at this point

>>112644552
>they don't pay for the choreography teachers and lessons
Obviously. They never dance, after all. They do need to pay for the hired dancers though.

>>112643876
KUROLIVE STRIKES AGAIN

This is good business policy. The hologirls are contractors not entitled to pensions under the hololive scheme, and if they want stuff they can pay for it. Hololive provides them a platform and audience to broadcast to with the brand and be included in brandwide events to boost their awareness.

>>112644156
Coco is broko now because she spent all her money liek a dumbass.

But most likely the big factor is that the yen has been constantly weakening since Sora first debuted in 2017 and it is in freefall recently/the past 4years, leading to dollars being a big dick currency. Cock was getting mostly dollars, the japanese girls get yen. Yen is weak. Prices have also been rising because of inflation.

Oh and biggest thing is that the iran war has oil shocked japan, which means prices of everything are rising. China has cracked down on tungsten exports for example which harms Japanese industries since they have to rely on their strategic tungsten reserve.

>>112644156
Even a shitter in homo said they're earning almost as much as the average salaryman. With enough planning, they won't have any financial problems.