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>>112668832Mococo would get more of the rapeposts she wants if she streamed more
>>112668836Bau Bau
>>112668884ueh...
>>112668836BAU BAU
>>112669273>Do you want them to go bau bau in front of mamapuppy?I want them to act in a way that shows they still care about us. If they have to bau bau in front of their mother, stream from the studio, or do a quick twitter space while she is out then so be it. If they somehow, for some extremely weird reason can't do any of those things then at least I want them to give us an update on membership. I'm literally begging for *anything* outside of generic tweets at this point
Okay for the first time ever, one of their tweets actually annoyed me. How can they complain about a lack of fan art, when they're the ones who have been MIA for over a month? They used to say they don't take their fans for granted and would work hard to keep them. That tweet conveys a different attitude. "The ruffians will forgive us no matter what." Sure, fans are generally loyalty, but to a point. Loyalty shouldn't be taken for granted. It's bad form to assume loyalty when you give nothing in return.
Were we just a stepping stone for them? Are we not worth their time anymore?
>>112670756you posted this already
Mikochi took over the job of having a news show with MikoNews...
Micomet invited Bibhu for dinner... they're molesting her cunny and FWMC aren't there to protect her maidenhood, no...
>>112668902>I think my point is FWMC hope ruffians are patient like the>IRyStocratsIRyS feeds them well. Long gameplays with zatsu and still has post-stream secret endings. Transparent about health issues. They still go crazy when she doesn't stream.>MiofasMio was transparent about why she was hospitalized. Asamio intact. Has a twitter subaccount to communicate more.>NakiriguminsAyame talked about her health and family issues. Still tweeted during her breaks and has a subaccount.
>>112671593>Ayame talked about her health and family issuesDamn they must be running for like 6 years and counting cause that's how long she's been doing nothing but the occasional event appearance really
Remember us, FUWAMOCO. Remember that we once lived.
They hyped this up on twitter so I guess I'll watch it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HViPZmjIa14 I expect this to go down badly though, ranking holos by singing capabilities or comparing them always leads to fights in the community
>>112671624>Damn they must be running for like 6 yearsHer mom had cancer
>>112671793Yeah for the last 6+ years so poor Ayame couldn't stream for all that time
>>112671793>hadShe's dead or healed?
>>112671739isn't Risu going to obliterate everyone in singing.
>all the cardboard contestants ID...
>>112671825Her mother was diagnosed with early-stage breast cancer and started treatment. Around the same time, it seems her grandmother suffered a stroke. Later, she mentioned that a close family member had passed away, though she didn't go into much detail. She also had some issues with her voice and learned that she's at a high risk of developing the same type of cancer as her mother. Because of that, she talked about pursuing preventive treatment. So her mother is probably still alive, but her grandmother may not be.
I've heard enough, just give IRyS the trophy now
Now that's real singing.
>>112672346She's unironically one of my favorite singers. AZKi and Kanata too.
How the fuck did that not max out to red. fuckin rigged
I've heard enough, still give it to IRyS
Rigged
>>112672717It's a bit bullshit that two thirds of the girls sing it live at the studio surrounded by all others, while the cardboard ones got to prerecord takes at home at peace until they were satisfied with it That doesn't seem fair
>>112672845She's pretty good, better than Suisei even.
lol
>>112673017Aww Noel... she actually improved quite a lot, she was legit 1/10 but is definitely like 4/10 nowadays, maybe 5 even.
I know she got dingo'd but I would sex Zeta just saying
>>112673426homos aren't fucking anyone
BIBHU ABOUT TO WIN THIS SHIT
>>112673426Her thighs are dangerous. Almost makes me reconsider fucking A SEA woman
>>112673684She's honorary white. At least she really really wants to be rescued by a nice white gentleman.
Biboo won the vibes trophy for sure
Biboo won the cunniest girl trophy
This is exactly the type of thing they said they could and would join more with the move to Japan. It's one of the few positives that I had almost sorta talked myself into. And yet they're nowhere to be seen and miss these routinely.
>>112673707Moona actually does have light skin and big boobs.
Damn Kiara bombing this, so much red and my ears hurt too, why is it so high pitched
Thank god I'm not a KFP.
>>112673968That's just Kiara, she's never been a good singer
Kiara...
Yikes. At least KFP know she's never leaving hololive with a voice like that lmao
Bullshit, that singing was terrible. Rigged.
it's that Paradise Kiss song she keeps talking about with FWMC. Expect a FWMC tweet praising her performance.
The demon of sound....
Should have just sung Blue World or something.
When is FUWAMOCO's turn?
I know this machine only judges your ability to hit the notes and hold them and such, but there's a very subjective "vocal tone" kind of quality that you would never be able to measure. And in that aspect I really don't like how Kiara and Nerissa sound, while IRyS and Niko sounded wonderful to me. Just talking about their voices.
KEK appealing to IRyS' lolicon tendencies, based
>>112674436
One day you will rummage through an old dusty carton and see a lot of FUWAMOCO merch in it and remember the good ol days...
Bae just stole the show
>>112674480>>112674518https://youtu.be/4pQ5a7ufIzA
>>112674530It's her go to, I've heard her sing this song like six different times already. Not that I mind, it's a good song and FWMC should play FFX. Mococo would cry for sure.
>bae singingpicrel>bae talking>>112674144
Time for everyone to lose to a squirrel.
Here comes the true winner
>>112674645The squirrel is the perfect member to use as an example of the difference between an artist/singer and an idol. So much talent, all wasted...
Holy hell this song sounds hard to sing. Risu is on another level.
She's only gonna get a 1 off perfect but her song is like three times harder than most others picked tonight
HOLY FUCK KIARA COMPLETELY DESTROYED
>>112673017danchou...
it's that girl who dances like a stripper.
Why are FWMC not participating?
I'm no KFP but it's cute that she often just sits in free chat and commentates stuff live with KFP talking to them
Riona I don't think the joysound AI is aware of your dance moves, focus on the singing
>>112674868Not a single member who was at the Janken King Tournament is there, despite having great singers like Marine and Okayu. Contrary to what shitposting from threadreaders would lead you to believe, Pekora cares about Hololive.
>>112674975Based Pekora
>>112674975No one from holoJP is there at all. JP main I mean, these girls are devis
>>112674898Did she comment on the BTFOing she got from Pekora?
>>112674898
Moririn improved so much in japanese and singing... true idol journey...
It's official, the final ranking based on the singing competitionA-tier>Kobo>NikoB-tier>IRyS>Moona>Zeta>Nerissa>Bae>RisuC-tier>Biboo>Kiara>Riona>Mori
Another ultrakino live live 3D stream, I'm liking the direction Hololive is going.
https://x.com/fuwamoco_en/status/2066142580560294223lol
Harem protagonist kino
>>112675553what if they're recording for their anniversary 3D live?
>senpai, genmates, and kouhaiNot ruffians though
A year ago FUWAMOCO would have been all over a kino event like this. They never would have turned it down. What happened
>>112675919And people would have antiposted over it with the usual "wow great another JP event they are in HOLOEN OKAY!", you know that
I'm normally a boobsfag, but Mogogo makes me wildin'
>>112675831Is that why Biboo and Nerissa were in Pekora's event and not them?
>stop streaming >people forget about them>"why are we not getting fanart?!"
>>112675828What could they possibly be recording for this much?
>>112676111I expect about 16 voice packs and like 7 more 3D live participations at this point
>>112675828Glad they are having fun. Hope I could say the same thing about their own fans.
>>112676009Pekora said that management picked the members she just had the idea for what to do with them and hosted it.
If you're as busy as they say you shouldn't have to keep reminding people. We'd be getting something constantly to show what they're working on. I don't buy it anymore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IRNbLl9Fgs
the only stream in the next two weeks will be the company mandated one with raora
>>112676111world tour?
>>112676332At least it will be a handcam stream.
>>112676356That was cancelled this year, unironically. Not happening.
>>112676391we shall see
I will give them until a week after serendipity to return to us
>>112676139>16 voice packs and like 7 more 3D live participationsI just don't give a shit about any of that anymore. It reached a point where it doesn't matter what they are currently working on, be it twenty 3D lives or a thousand voicepacks, whatever it is it wasn't worth ignoring their fans and acting like this for months. I can't believe I'm saying this but I'll probably just skip serendipity, I don't feel any kind of excitement towards something like that when FWMC have been acting like spending time with us is a painful chore.
Remember when they used to do rock n rawr parties every other week but then they moved to Japan and now they barely do them once every other month?
>>112676403>a week after serendipity to return to usI was thinking of doing the same but they'll probably "take a break" and go to the nwp after serendipity.
>>112675946DRVKE
they're in risu's chat
>>112676531Negrissa don't look...
>>112676531Honestly, what the hell are they doing. They're being weird.
>>112676495Ok, until a week after their return from a post-concert nwp trip then, I can do that
>>112676531Anything but chatting with ruffians. I'm sick of it. They aren't working on a damn thing that could justify this. It's almost worse than Gura because they're clearly around and healthy and active and choosing not to stream or give any meaningful content. I'd rather they ghost us if this is how little they care.
>>112676486I'm sure they are happier in Japan, but it's genuinely painful to think about all the things *we* the fans had to "sacrifice" for that. That's the most annoying thing about the "balance" they keep talking about, they never reduce studio time or recordings or meetings, they always sacrifice the things that fans actually enjoyed from them, we are always the ones losing.
Plastic love... chumbies...........
Is it because they know that the small group of Ruffians who will support them no matter what, AKA the pay puppies, will always be there?
Maybe I misread it but I checked Risu's channel when she said she's close to 1 million and wanted to reach it this year and it said 993k. She got 5k in an instant just from shilling at the live live Pekora stream. Based Pekkers and holy JP power...
>>112676631Yeah, she got more subs from that shoutout there than she did in many months beforehand Such is life
I wonder if any Holos ever use "busy recording day!" as a complete fucking lie to avoid explaining things to fans.
They are recording another song for the anime
>>112676622I don't know that it is true anymore. Most people with that money have better things to spend on than people who don't even pretend to care like they did in the past. They still have the German retard I suppose.
>>112676571It'll be genuinely fucking GRIM if they don't return by then with the anniversary so close and all. I know they won't do it but I hope they do a bit of retrospection during the anniversary and talk about how fucking terrible this year was, I want to believe they aren't deluded enough to think this was all perfectly fine.
>>112676616>>112676531>appears in chat as soon as it's mentioned /here/
>>112676692No need to wonder, that is 100% guaranteed. Doesn't even have to be malicious, it's just really easy to say recordings/studio instead of having to explain something here or there. I'm almost sure like 90% of holos have done that before at times.
>>112676744I don't see why. Talents aren't expected to explain what they're doing every single day. Ayame's last tweet was 11 days ago. If they don't want to say what they were doing they can just not say anything.If it's saying it on stream when asked by chat then sure, I can totally see that too. But they're not expected to tweet every single thing they do.
They really like the number one million
She should reach one million singing one of Nerissa's songs live to her fans.
>>112676791Because it's very easy and no one minds. It's even easier and causes less friction than not saying anything for most holos.
>>112676795Speaking of millions, remember their goal of reaching 1.5 million subs this year? There's absolutely no fucking way in hell they are getting that now with the way they are ignoring their channel
>>112676692Probably. Every holo has work but most don't use it as a daily excuse. Like ok FUWAMOCO we know you are doing your job during the day, everyone is, but where the fuck are you outside of it? Imagine your girlfriend only texting you to say she's off to work and that's it each day. It's more suspicious than silence.
>>112676738bau bau~
>>112676821Kek
>>112676795How about doing anything for the million ruffians they claimed to love? No?
>>112670785Yes and yes
>>112676857>Imagine your girlfriend only texting you to say she's off to work and that's it each day.I've been saying that since forever. Even if they don't want to explain what's going on for some fucking reason, they could easily just talk about more interesting things that happened in their day to day life to stay more connected with the Ruffians. Talk about funny or interesting things that happened, anything.
Why is this one unarchived? She's only singing songs that are ok to archive. Is it just autism?
Is something not allowing to stream normal streams? Unironically asking. I feel like they're the same way they were before except for just not going live outside of mandatory events/stuff they agreed to already.Are they being punished by management or something?
My waifu
>>112676531kek they will literally appear anywhere but their own channel
>>112676984I don't want to be a doomer and I don't think it's likely but it really does feel like they are about to graduate.
>>112676984I wish I knew. I'm getting REALLY tired of this shit, and even if they can't somehow stream for some reason, what's stopping them from doing posts on YT, explaining things on membership, doing streams from the studio, doing a short Twitter space...?
>>112676984They don't enjoy streaming anymore, if they ever did. The only thing that gets them to do it now is management or senpai telling them. If it isn't a chance to shill or gain brownie points with higher ups they don't want any part in it. It's sad and hard to believe if you've been watching them since debut but their actions are speaking much louder than words.
Man, I would trade the yearly EN concert for monthly karaoke or even every two months in a heartbeat.
>>112676965she said she only has a few japanese song's she's doing and then its englishshe is likely doing the jp upfront to catch the spillover from pekora's thing
>>112677024Why would they still be doing recordings if they are going to graduate? There's no indication at all that's happening, they would be retarded to not go into the Gura coast mode and take all the money they can as long as people keep sending it. also they won't graduate until they get the VN released so we at least have that long.
>>112677024>it really does feel like they are about to graduateThey won't. If you want to be a doomer then say that they stopped caring about the ruffians or something, that's a lot more realistic than them graduating now.
It's funny but mostly sad that the Fuwawa rrat is the only thing that makes sense.
>>112677024it's literally just the ame/gura/mumei routine we've already seen
>>112677064That's a shame, look at this moment, this shouldn't disappear from your channel. Should have done two streams then.Still, that was great. At least she wasn't sleeping.
>>112677047At this point I would trade the yearly concert AND the yearly 3D live for consistent streams and (semi)regular karaoke.
>>112677126she might change her mind, I don't think she was expecting to hit a million this soon
>>112677126>At least she wasn't sleeping.Kek Negrissa set a really low bar with that one
>>112677047>>112677138Sorry but you'll get your twice yearly mandatory concerts, a year end countdown, their two 3D streams and then 15 voice packs and recordings for events and collabs that may or may not ever happen or be shown outside Japan.
fuwaBRAP fuwaBRAPFFIANS
Maybe management stealth suspended them from streams except for the stuff they already agreed to appear in / be a part of beforehand like enreco and botan's event
>>112677262Ruffians will come up with any cope to not accept that FUWAMOCO don't want to stream or spend time with them anymore...
This pose looks familiar but I can't place my finger on it.
>>112677262No excuse can justify the lack of any real explanation or effort into communicating/spending more time with the Ruffians.
ALERT ALERT ALERTFUWAMOCO MENTION RISU MENTIONED THEM BEING IN HER CHAT OFFICIAL BAU BAU ALERT
>>112677301On one hand sovl, on the other boy this guy is desperate for likes if he's resorting to spamming on the art hashtag.you know it's a bad look that the only wedding art they're getting is not from fan artists or commissions of people that love them but because they were begged to do it.
>>112677301>>112677356Found it. The German reterd copied it from Oyome Holic.
Hololive is something... so great
>>112677371Every pose ever has been done somewhere before, do you want people to invent everything from scratch?
>>112677371>another attention whore ends up being a tracer Not surprising when they all make up shit constantly to bait likes but God damn man have some dignity.
>>112677400Look up what a tracer is
>>112677400NTA but bro literally copied every line. There's doing the same pose, there's using a reference and then there's full on stealing without any credit. Especially from their own genmates MV. He's gonna get tore apart if the oomfcord finds out lmao.
>>112677470
Oh look the ID runt they barely have talked to ever is also higher in their hearts than ruffians. She got more chat messages than ruffians have in all streams since February combined.
>>112677515I thought they said the words "I love you" were special and not often said.
>>112677515You are trying a bit too hard. You don't have to be so extra for us to see this shit and criticize them.
>>112677560I often think this. It's easy to tell the actual fans who have qualms here from the anti who always goes over the top or unreasonable.
None of you will ever do or say anything so why even bother?
>>112677156There it is, nice.
Yet another retweet of the song. Maybe they could try streaming even a little? Then it might not have less views than Shiori.
Things will go back to normal eventually
>>112677515It reminds me of when Mumei graduated and the only memory they had to say to her was when they played Overwatch lmao
>>112677806so far every case of this behavior in EN has ended in a graduation
>>112677601It's weird how much they always try to overdramatize things, and I'm saying that as someone who is considering oshihening if things don't change soon. FWMC don't hate the Ruffians, at worst they simply stopped caring about us and are now busy doing whatever while not thinking about the Ruffians. That's bad enough, there's no reason to try to make it look worse than it is.>>112677806What even is "normal" for them now?
It's okay they are just temporarily pretending to hate us. You'll all be happy again when they miraculously reverse two years of down trending and start choosing streams over homework and recordings. That's totally what's going to happen despite all evidence to the contrary.
>>112677902I didn't overdramatize shit. I never said they hate us, just that they're telling this random member they've hardly interacted with that they absolutely love her. Something they used to say often about ruffians but have essentially stopped entirely. When was the last stream they did a post stream message for?
This thread has just become parasocial bitching about how they don't stream
>>112677959I wonder why people bitch about no streams, really puzzling
>>112677937They don't care. Just some performative bullshit probably.
>>112677959What else could it be about when there are no streams?
>>112677937you know holos interact off stream, rightthey were in nyc together
>>112677959You are right, we should talk about their content instead. Did you see their latest tweet? They are doing some recordings apparently. Same as yesterday. And the day before. And the day before that.
>>112678015But are they big very important recordings? What about dance practice? They haven't mentioned that for a while did they give up on it?
>>112677937It's Japanese idol etiquette to tell your fellow members daisuki dayo.
I wonder why their recordings are more difficult than those of the other members, who aren't even allowed to interact with their fans, or for example, Biboo who sometimes has to be absent for a few days but is always shown to be participating in the activities
>>112678143They're just slower and weaker. I assume it's the same work as the rest of advent and others.
>>112678044>But are they big very important recordings?I wish I cared. They could be recording 30 albums and 50 3d lives and I wouldn't care. I liked them because I thought they loved, respected, and cared about their fans, but now I'm not getting any hint of them caring about us at all, and it's killing all the passion I had for any of their projects.>What about dance practice?Same shit different flavor. They are "busy" doing something we won't see for months, while they neglect their fans in the present.
remember how before debut everyone thought that because they were two members sharing one channel they would never have the kind of downtime that was plaguing EN at the time
>>112678266Lol
>>112678266I thought that for a bit until the first time they cancelled a stream because one of them was sick. It's now clear that it's a huge debuff because they're twice as likely to have a reason to cancel. Not that they even need an excuse to not stream recently. Shit sucks.
When just Fuwawa was gone we got some kino Mococo and Cecilia streams at least
>>112678351It's sad that the never-to-be completed Chrono Trigger is the only RPG stream we'll ever get on the FUWAMOCO channel.
You retards have been posting the same shit forever. Get new material.
Bibhu was at the studio all day and somehow found time to stream, how is this possible?!
>>112678460She's a witch and we should hunt her down and wape her defenseless cunny
>>112678143They have to do almost everything as a duo. The only thing I can think of that wouldn't is signing merch or doing recording for individual voice packs.Every 3D appearance, every song of theirs, every collaboration etc. has to be done for two people and they'll want to consult with each other over all of this.
MOCOBRAP
Remember when FUWAMOCO did karaokes to protect Ruffian smiles? Must be nice.
Remember when Fuwawa farted during their first asmr?
>>112678808They haven't protected smiles for months. And no one calls them out for it so they see no reason to change.
fuwamoco are too old
>>112678822>no one calls them out for itincluding you
>>112678880Because I want to see them fail and they're doing a damn good job of it themselves.
>>112678888damn numbers don't lie
>>112678808Neat, I liked IRyS' singing the most
>>112678808Too bad they don't care anymore about anything but management praise and pleasing shareholders.
>>112678460Biboo may have control of my body, mind and dick but my heart will always remain FWMC's and that's what counts
>>112678997How does she do it?
>>112678997posts like these are extremely cringe
>>112679018By giving a beep.
>>112678997Hearts can be transplanted and replaced with artificial pumps and even pig hearts.
>>112679030Is this better? Welcome home, my strongest puppies And thank you for lending me strength today, too I hope tonight brings a well-deserved chance to relax and rest well soon …I'm thankful I could catch you in chat a little bit this evening too, I missed you both a lot today
>>112677301>>112677371KEK wtf this is shameless
IRyS really has the nicest singing voice
>>112679018
Don't worry.Be happy.
What do you do with all the merch when your oshi checks out? Box it up? I feel like it's getting depressing seeing my fuwamoco stuff at home.
>>112679109Tracing is a Ruffian tradition.
Wendy's or burger king for watching the matches today?
>>112677371this faggot literally copies everything the ruffians fuwamoco love the most do
>>112679585I want some sloppy joes
>>112679724Sounds good too maybe I make that if I can get off my fat ass and get groceries.
>>112679585MacDonalds
>>112677806I am just chilling and reading books and playing vidya during this downtime. Don't know why everyone is losing their mind
>>112680139When you're actually invested and think of them as more than just "some entertainment I might tune into or not" you'll care whether or not you've seen them stream for you in the past weeks
>>112680139tourist
>>112680172There were streams though. I was there for enreco. I was there for the gold rush. You fags were complaining those streams don't count
>>112680172There's invested, and then there's you not having anything else to do but complain on /vt/ all day.
>>112680172But ultimately vtubers are and should be just "some entertainment". If you get any more invested than that as a viewer then you are setting yourself up for a major disappointment sooner or later.
>>112680192Not only were those a while ago, but yeah actually I wouldn't count those as them just streaming to us specifically once. A simple zatsu or any game stream just with us just once would do.
>>112680295Sure and I shouldn't be playing video games at my age and be married and have a kid too, but this is 4chan and I'm an anime weeb who wants to spend time with his oshis.
>>112680355You are better off writing a fan letter telling them you wish they play more video games than complaining about it on 4chin if you want things to change
I found out that holodex has an "indiedex" so I been surfing through and watching other girls. Barely notice them been gone.
>>112680406No one writes fan letters anymore.
>>112680500posts like this make me realize some of you deserve to be ignored
raora talking about how her schedule is so packed but she still made time to stream for us today and will do her best to still stream tomorrow even with gym and homework and recordings
>>112680624I actually wrote one like a month ago, I wonder when they might get it
>>112680683Given how they stopped doing post stream chats they probably just ask for it all to be trashed.
>>112680683I thought Holos can't receive fanmail anymore
>>112680683I sent one too a week ago, even though it was hard I figured they still want them. Praying I don't get a retard staff that censors it.
>>112680744They say they can but you'll never know if they actually get it or not. For all we know, staff could shred them all. >>112680796I don't think they do much censoring, only the name. If there is anything objectionable, they just toss the letter entirely.
I sent my letter over 2 months ago and it said "By now I'm sure you're feeling better" but they're still "sick" even now. Fuwawa's return stream was 2 months ago.Their Doggy Pack post was 1 month ago.
>>112680830gg talks about the fan mail she receives a lot
>>112680744They still do but management is stricter with censorship these days
>>112680744They can but no gifts, just letters. No real names or phone numbers or addresses either, social media handles like twitter name seems fine
>>112680251This. You miss them because you're invested, you whine to other men on /vt/ every single day because you're a bitch. Stop pretending the two are intrinsically connected.
>>112680904I miss when we could send them shit. Giving Nene a hundred fire extinguishers, Noel had a whole apartment dedicated to gifts. People wanted to send Botan a gun but of course that never worked out, even a deactivated one.
I'm invested in huffing mocobraps
I still rub cum in every letter to Fuwawa
Hihi #FUWAMOCOWe ruffians are always so proud of you from all the hard work you do!Im super duper excited for all the fun thats coming up in the near future(^ω^)We ruffians are cheerint FWMC onThank you for making so many fun memories togetherI LOVE FWMC SO MUCH
>>112680968Well how do you stop people from hiding air tags in plushies or putting some bad chemical traces in things or >>112680997
>>112681121>Im super duper excited for all the fun thats coming up in the near future(^ω^)Poor bastard still believes them...
>>112681291I wonder if they all do or if it's performative with a happy mask put on
>>112681318It's gotta be a fake belief for most by now. I doubt anyone that hardcore invested is happy right now. But what can you do but hope?
>>112681407>But what can you do but hope?oshihen
>>112681121Is this German autist as brain-damaged as he seems when you met him at All For One?
Imagine how busy they must be if Biboo's this busy... they must've been at the studio for 24 hours...
>>112681424Most ruffians that go to in person events aren't the ones that do those ritual posts. The ones that do usually sit in their hotel rooms or are alone.
>>112678997BAUSED
>>112678678This is a literal child ruffian.
>>112677514Super Hyper Ultra Ultimate Deluxe Perfect Amazing Shining God 東方不敗 Master Ginga Victory Strong Cute Beautiful Galaxy Baby 無限 無敵 無双 NENECHI!!
>>112681121Why the fuck is this nigger incapable of typing
I doubt they're busier than IRyS who has a literal sololive this year so what gives?
>>112681741He allegedly sleeps less than Mococo does. He acts as a bot on discord that copy pastes all their tweets and chat messages. His mind is fried.
>>112681778Why is her skin pink like Majin Buu?
>>112681574It's ruff being a ruffian... they live a lonely solitary life without FWMC...
>>112681793you men obsessed schizos even track their sleep cycles? what a faggot
>>112681806Gyaru tan
hologra was kinohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlnviOwLRmk
>>112681869No, the autistic brings it up every time someone mentions sleep. Same with mentioning that a temperature isn't cold or joking about F and C. You know how autists make the same joke over and over.
>>112681906I wonder how many streams we lost for recording this.
Big W going out again
>>112681965skipped again
Hmm the time between all my likes leads me to believe they aren't even reading them. I wouldn't be surprised if they're using a browser script to just like everything on the hashtag...
>>112681792You must clearly be an anti who doesn't watch their streams. They've said time and time before that their work takes twice as long since they always need to be together to do everything since they're hopeless alone.
>>1126819480. Hologra is usually recorded months ahead of time
>>112682131NTA but then the logical follow up to that is to take half the work.
>>112682096>script Purityschizo has zero likes as usual, retard.
>>112682096You guys will bitch about anything and come up with the most retarded explanations lmao
>>112682131Who asked for them to be in every single voice pack?
>>112682168Yeah they won't see tweets from accounts they muted moron.
>>112682192What about me then, I get no likes and I'm not a schizo nor did I ever say or tweet anything bad
>>112682210Do you have Premium?
>>112682224no
>>112682192>>112682224You said they liked everything on the hashtag. Blocked and muted accounts show up on the hashtag, you retard nigger.
Ueh the farts really smell open a window
>>112682156ueh but our sololive
Shiori really loves food huh?
>>112682375I wonder if management has them thoroughly convinced that they're worthless and won't get anything if they don't work themselves to death. FWMC seem the type to believe that entirely.
Fucking Shiori's fat cow tits
>>112682415>do great things with itShiori was the brapGOD all along.
>>112682375They're going to have a tough time filling a venue for that sololive at this rate
>>112682714Not in Japan.
>>112682714they'll invite some heavy hitter JPs as guests and people will show up for them, same way they juiced the numbers of their 3d lives
>>112682424It'd be funny but would make a lot of sense
>>112682714They are in the Miko + Korone + Suisei + Fubuki + Marine gangThey will have Miko and Marine on as surprise featured guests
brap braaaaap BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAP
>>112682849Fuwawa is the perfect brapper
>>112682752>>112682788>>112682813So filled with general holofans or fans of other members but not really fans of them. Guess they're still ruffians by their definition so maybe they don't care about that
what's up with this recent obsession about braps in /baubau/?
Looked at the channel after being away for the weekend and knew I shouldn't have come to the thread but I did anyways.
>>112683043>recentthat's just the usual schizo
>>112683112>schizoonly real fans want to smell their oshis farts
>>112683140only weirdos are into farts in the first place
>>112683170well you gotta be a little weird to even be into vtubers in the first place.
>>112683040They only care about numbers but don't want to put in the work to get numbers
>>112683045Just play vidya or something else instead, posters here will want to drag you into their depression.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wijrWMd9wvQFWMC should do a cover of this. It'd be really funny to hear them cry out in their most Japanese racist accent "JAPANESE GENTLEMAN STAND UPPA PUREASU!"
>>112683196I hope they haven't began to take their fans for granted. Just because they have a million subs and good merch sales doesn't mean that those viewers will stick around indefinitely if FWMC no longer feel the need to stream regularly.
>>112683253>good merch salesI see you haven't been keeping up with the news
>>112683040Doesn't matter, they should be able to sell 3000 in Japan easy even if none of the attendees have ever watched them.
No one misses their fans more than FUWAMOCOThey would give anything to see us
>>112683348not funny
>>112683112The schizo is posting it in the pebble thread too. Real ruffian btw.
>>112683303What news? That they sold two separate limited sets out in a month while the rest of EN struggles to do that at all?
>>112683398ur right it not funny because it fact
>>112683406BAUSED Diamon Dog brapGOD
>>112683415yeah retard and that was before they fucked off for monthsthey were dead last in the most recent EN merch release
>>112683348Remember when Fuwawa was sick in the hospital and still did a fluffy fall guys?
>>112683527They've always been low in group merch, and if you're going to numberfag you'd know group merch doesn't even give them anywhere close to their personal merch cut. Now fuck off third worlder.
>>112683616group merch is the only direct way to compare holos to each other because it's the same for everyone you pathetic coping faggot
The only true test will be comparing happis and merch at serendipity. And group meetup sizes.
>>112683703By that logic they're the runts of EN because they're 2views in ENReco
>>112683751Correct.
I've really been enjoying the NTR where pregnant Fuwawa cucks the ruffian with their dad.
>>112683751At this point, I think they're a low priority choice for EN fans. They get a big boost from JP for things where there aren't any JP talents if JP casuals are interested.
>>112683751Counterpoint: Ruffians care the least about enrecoshit out of all EN fanbases Example: me
>>112683741Happi already plural, esl retard.
>>112683703>group merch is the only direct way to compare holosBullshit. Comparing personal merch is better because it shows how much of a core fanbase you have that will support you. And even if I play your game they sold far more Fwu plushies than the rest of EN.All of which is merch higher quality than the cheap EN concert merch. I'm sure most of EN is glad their fans can buy $1-$2k of serendipity merch, of which they get probably <10% from, while they're unable to sell out their personal limited merch sets.Why are you even here, faggot?
>>112683859I did give it a chance the first two seasons but even as a diehard ruffian their povs were extremely boring
>>112683859This, hopefully lyger's melty over chapter 3 means we don't have to deal with that shit a fourth time.
>>112683925>muh FWU, muh old merch setsand again you are ignoring the actual point by trying to trot out examples from when they hadn’t completely fallen off like a sad fat middle aged man talking about his high school football glory days isn’t it about time for you to post an ancient screenshot of their birthday live ccv and pretend like that’s relevant?
>>112683859>Ruffians care the least about enrecoshit out of all EN fanbasesThat is probably true. Most ruffians prefer seeing them together and their solo pov's often seem a bit less engaging compared to other members in the same events. I think they would prefer to be together during Enreco as well, on their own they both tend to seem a bit lost and overwhelmed.
>>112684088I actually like seeing them on their own or with others, that's not the issue for me, I just think they are really weak in enreco and that enreco is shit to begin with
>>112684087Didn't ask for your fanfic sis. Address the points or go back to your discord.>isn’t it about time for you to post an ancient screenshot of their birthday live ccv and pretend like that’s relevant?Would you seethe just as hard as you did back then if I did?
>>112683978No shot. He'll be involved and double down even more. Cover isn't going to fire an employee because of en fan feedback, they don't even remember they exist most of the time.
>>112684183No but I know you'd run back to /#/ where you belong with your faggot tail between your legs.
>>112684210>run back to /#/Funny coming from the third worlder who can't even numberfag right.
>>112684236nta, just calling you a massive faggot because you bit his bait because you're a little nigger from /#/ too and should go back.
>>112684183>nonsensical esl response >admitted I predicted his pathetic next moveKEKI accept your concession
mocobrap
>>112677109>they aren't acting like they're about to graduate, they're just acting like Mumei, Ame, and Gura.Right. So... when are the next Mumei, Ame, and Gura streams?
>>112684326Mumei unironically streams way more than FWMC do now. Just had a karaoke, too
>>112684266>nonsensicalLearn to read.>esl>concessionAgain, learn English you monkey.You didn't refute any of my points so I'll accept my win. Cheers.
>>112684367Mumei graduated ages ago mate, other characters portrayed by the same voice actress aren't her.
>>112668832Moco-chan is a fuzzy little minx>>112668884BAUSED
>>112684405her braps smell the same as Mumei's
>>112684395>n-n-no u!Jesus just when I thought you couldn’t get more patheticNot to mention the extreme irony of you dodging the actual issue of them falling off, like everyone can’t tell you’re transparently trying to redirect away from the argument you can’t win. Want me to tell you what gave you away as an ESL so you don’t embarrass yourself so badly next time btw?
>>112684195Anon they finally rid homo shit from the EN twitter because mori bitched at them, they could easily drop matsuri's stalker if they complain.
>>112684405any real ruffian would want FWMC to graduate if it meant getting as many streams as hoomans get now
>>112684686Nah, a chunk of the people here still sit around and cope that they never actually cared about streams at all actually
>>112684686lol fuck no, everything becomes shit once they leavesee: everyone who left
>>112684492>T-they fell offAs I said, they sold more limited merch sets than any other EN could currently manage and it was this year.>you're redirecting away from the argumentThat's what you did by claiming cheap group merch was a better comparison with no argument as to why. I refuted that too and now you can only cope.>Want me to project my ESL status onto you again?Again, learn English. Better yet, post signed FUWAMOCO merch and membership.
>>112684686Even chumbuds had more streams, then there's nimi that streams practically everyday.. Maybe Cover really is a black company.
>>112670596Fuwawa would wape a wuffian
>>112684744>listing Nimi the actual garbage cuckold grifter as a positive exampleyeah, you lost
>>112684730Everyone who left has as many or in some cases way more streams than before, and they’re still doing concertsI guess if what you love about hololive is voice packs it would be a loss.
>>112684744>I say obviously false shit so I can reply to myself 100 times to prove how great FWMC are right nowlolIf anything they act like Gura did back when she was Gura. They haven't done anything as stupid as to promise 'consistent streaming' like Saba did earlier in her redebut.
>>112684776All of them are vastly more garbage than before. Shit collabs with shit people, shit concerts and shit everything.
>>112684686kill yourself
>>112684741Hey dumb fuck, try to use your little brown brain to explain how merch sets sold BEFORE the period where they fucked off for months is proof that they didn’t fall off from that period? Retard.
>>112684766She didn't cuck me sorry you're an emotionally stunted loser that becomes a gachiko easily/
>>112684787>They're just like Gura!Every time one of you says this you instantly lose any credibility to your bitching
>>112684838>Constantly say they want to stream>Never streamSeems the same to me. If you mean how Gura would disappear, you're right that FWMC do post a little more than she did on stupid sites like twitter.
>>112684860Gura's complete and utter ghosting was preferable to this feeling of getting strung along by the constant tweets. I finally had to mute them because I only expect twitter to be used to announce a stream.
>>112684904>Gura's complete and utter ghosting was preferableGood one. Almost laughed.
>>112684904>Gura's complete and utter ghosting was preferabletry harder
>>112684943nta but guilt tripping they want marriage fan art in the middle of a massive unexplained hiatus is borderline emotionally abusiveSilence would be better
>>112685043Are you a tranny? What kind of man writes like this?
To them ENReco counted so if only ruffians just used two devices to watch both POVs to boost their numbers we wouldn't be in this predicament because what Ruffians have shown them is that streaming isn't worth the effort.
>>112684806>Hey dumb fuck, try to use your little brown brain to explain how merch sets sold BEFORE the period where they fucked off for months is proof that they didn’t fall off from that period? Retard.The point is you've been this hyperbolic for the last three years. You did it for superchats, ccv, etc. and they're still the top merch sellers, they still get the highest viewed 3D Lives in EN, still get the most mindshare in JP, gaining subs, etc. You come to this thread every day for years to regurgitate your rrat about them "falling off".>the period where they fucked off for monthsThe period where they couldn't stream together, got sick after, and then barely streamed due to being busy, and the only merch is... cheap serendipity plastic merch.I'll see you in July, where you'll still be coping and seething when they sell out their anniversary merch.Now it's your turn to explain how group merch sales reflect anything, other than the rest of EN's fans being too poor to afford their oshi's personal merch which is the biggest revenue stream for Holos outside of the few that have over 10k members(none in EN).
>>112685130Yeah I’m sure you’re a real tough guy mr simps for anime dog girl pop singers
>>112685134they always get bad numbers for enreco going back to enreco season 1
I suddenly realized a possible explanation that covers everything and it doesn't involve boyfriends or babies or family passing away.In fact, I think it explains everything that's happened and is currently happening way better than those theories.But you're really not going to like it.
>>112684860>never streamAgain, this is why I can't take you seriously.
>>112685197Ah so you indeed are a tranny.
>>112685197>seethedtwanny spotted
>>112685223>I'm a big coperYes, I know
>>112685164>I know I’m wrong so I’m going to come up with an entire strawman that you’re my thread boyfriend and argue against that instead>please please please make this argument about merch sets I know I don’t have any actual argument against your actual point
>>112685280>actual pointnta, but what actual point lol? You monkeys just been seething because they don't stream much. If they go back to streaming, you will be seething about some other random bullshit like "WAHHHH THEY ARE DOING 12 HOUR STREAMS THEY DONT CARE ABOUT THEIR COREFANS WHO HAVE TO WORK" "WAHHHH THEY ARE READING ANAL AND PHOENIX" "WAHHH THEY ARE RTING GODZKI" so on and so on
>>112685339Sure, but as a fan of them I just want more streams. That dude's a nigger, but more streams would be great. Don't need to be an anti and a shitposter to want that.
>>112685339They fell off in merch sales because they stopped streaming. You could try reading.
>>112685339>"WAHHHH THEY ARE DOING 12 HOUR STREAMS THEY DONT CARE ABOUT THEIR COREFANS WHO HAVE TO WORK" "WAHHHH THEY ARE READING ANAL AND PHOENIX" "WAHHH THEY ARE RTING GODZKI" so on and so onYeah man those are definitely Ruffians and not shitposters like you.
>>112685280>come up with an entire strawmanOh the projection.>please please please make this argument about merch sets I know I don’t have any actual argument against your actual pointYou literally, and I do mean LITERALLY can't refute my argument and that's why you haven't done so.
>>112685385Then you got to explain why everyone's merch is dropping off. Even biboo is taking weeks to sell out her limited these days and she streams alot. Kiara who streams way more than most sold the least for serendipity
>Most active holo thread
>>112685446Not him but Kiara has literally always been the runt what are you smoking. I can't think of a single time she wasn't the least sold.
>>112685446He won't. He's going to cope about group merch which they have always underperformed with(outside of fwu). But like I said, group merch makes them very little so it doesn't matter that much.
>>112685376No one is saying that though. Usually it is the shitposters playing both sides by going "OMG DO YOU HATE FWMC AND WANT THEM TO DROP THEIR IDOL DREAMS?" Wanting streams is fine, and I encourage you to demand it on twitter/yt comments/fan letters etc.
>>112685445You literally wrote up a backstory about me being some guy you’ve flirted with for three years. If that’s not a strawman, what is it, your gay fantasy?I will refute your argument right after you explain how merch sets sold before the period where they fucked off is evidence against mine. You still haven’t done that. You’ve just tried to change the argument and hoped I won’t notice.
>>112685472wth do they even talk about in lig? i can't imagine giving a fuck about a ton of random twitch whores aside from the one I would watch in their shoes.
>>112685498I remember they sold less makeshift plushies than nerissa. They never do well for merch that is NA centric
>>112685498pathetic samefagInb4 inspect element
>>112685567Never been, but I assume it's just hlgg with more 'talents' to talk about.
>>112685567Pretty much all the awful whores you could think of from Mint to Squchan to Numi to Bao to Shylily to Yuy
>>112685567How much they hate Hololive.
baubau
>>112684405BAUSED
>>112685376What I'm trying to illustrate is this faggot has been here for years, using every opportunity as a vector to attack FUWAMOCO and prey on Ruffians' discontent like yours with streams. He wanted to numberfag but failed miserably.>>112685554>>112685587>I'm not that guy, I just make the exact same posts as him and am stalking /baubau/ to try and numberfag whenever I can(assuming >>112683303 isn't you just responding to yourself)At this point it doesn't matter if you are that schizo or not, you're doing the work he set out to accomplish. You being indistinguishable from a schizo means you ARE a schizo now.>I will refute your argumentYou can't, that's why you haven't done it.>right after you explain how merch sets sold before the period where they fucked off is evidence against mineHow many times do I need to tell you to learn to read? I said you were being hyperbolic as always and that using a period of two to three months where they were forced to take breaks for a significant portion of that time as proof of them "falling off" and then using group merch sales as "evidence" is bullshit because if you were a competent numberfag you would know they've never done particularly well with group merch outside of their fwu plushies.The reason you always pick the worst example is because you're a schizo anti and you need to kill yourself.
Remember when Mocochan called everyone a nigger?
>>112685472/BAUBAU/ IS THE STRONGEST THREAD!!
>>112685795I don't care if he's a nigger and that 90% of what he posts is trash, that 10% about people wanting more streams is right. Whatever /#/fag bullshit you want to yank each other's cocks over is completely irrelevent to how much they stream.
>>112684776>they’re still doing concertslol if you think serendipity is grim, mint and nimi can't even sell 20% of the tickets
>>112685567braps and poop and bluds and ritual posts
>>112685795You're literally just going>everyone I don't like is the same person!and>it doesn't count, because it's inconvenient to my argument!!over and over.They fell off. The evidence is right in the data. Cope and cry about it all you want.Don't worry though, I'm sure their graduation merch will sell great.
>>112685857wait that sounds familiar...
>>112685844Everyone wants more streams, we don't need this retarded anti to try and sneak in exaggerated garbage on top of that to know that.
>>112685845Because a large majority of EN fans don't give a shit about the concerts past showing support for the talent they like which they can do by buying merch and posting it to twitter.
>>112685844He didn't mention anything about streams. He just tried to numberfag about their merch but unfortunately he's retarded and can't even do that right. There's a reason he's a neet.
>>112685845They just miscalculated. That's way too large a venue for indies.
>>112685844You really think posts like >>112685865 is made by genuine fans? The faggot will find something else to seethe even if they stream
>>112685845The concept of going to a concert to watch a screen is silly at least Cover has the budget to do that hologram shit that makes it seem a little more real
>>112685845No... the indie avengers... why doesn't anyone go to their shows...?
>>112685911I don't, but again, he isn't wrong about people wanting streams
>>112685938Wow, what a revelation.
>>112685949Missing the point.
>>112685865>I'm not that guy>I'm sure their graduation merch will sell greatYou are. And you lost because you never presented a single counterargument.Anyway I'm sorry FUWAMOCO's success upset you somehow. But it's time for you to stop acting out your victim complex, doing this for three years is pathetic.
>>112685938Unironically, which genuine fans are saying they don't want streams?
>>112685845Wow, people don't want to shell out money to be cucks?
>>112686001technically kiara is there lol
>>112685994Most fans don't care. They watch clips if they watch them at all. There might be 20 people in this thread right now (I doubt it) and if someone made a post on their next VOD or membership post asking them to stream more, they'd get like maybe 15 likes and the rest would be people yelling at them for criticizing FUWAMOCO if the post even showed at all underneath 500 comments of "WHATEVER YOU DO IS FINE FUWAMOCO YOUR HAPPINESS IS THE BEST"
>>112686023you should advertise her concert more instead of shitposting here
>>112686047This is very true, but I'd argue that more people care than they might let on. Even some of those "we're so proud, don't worry, bau bau" people. I know for a fact that even some of them care and miss streams and wish they showed up more right now, they'd just never in a hundred years have to spine to say it and instead would just quietly disappear some day.
>>112686047>People who are completely passive, simp-type retards will say "DO WHATEVER YOU WANT!"Meanwhile they'll leave quietly if something happens they don't like or if they get tired of waiting.
>>112686001>people don't want to shell out money to be cucks?Wrong, nimi's fans are going.
>>112685970There is no counterargument to make because you never never presented an argument against mine in the first place. You have just been desperately trying to argue about merch sets which have nothing to do with the actual discussion, because you know you don't have any actual case to make against what I'm saying.
>>112686128What's the difference between that and airing your grievances here? At least pull a myron or roli if it is truly something you believe in
>>112686128>>112686110Yeah that's what happens. People leave quietly. It's on FUWAMOCO. They need to step up.
>>112686141>about merch sets which have nothing to do with the actual discussionnigger your first post was about their merch sales lmfao. Stop before you embarrass yourself further.>There is no counterargumentFinally you admit it. I accept your concession ;)
>>112686134She doesn't have very many fans then.
>>112686172They just need to come back stream 2-3 buff games every week and things will be fine. Stop being stubborn about debuff content like VNs
>>112686227It doesn't have to be buff content they just need to show up somewhat consistently and stream for us again too. Events and special stuff is fine and dandy but it cannot be all your streams. You NEED to spend time with your own fans too.
>>112686227I'm fine with random one-offs. I'd like to see more VN but I don't think I'm going to get what I want.
>>112686227>buff gamesBiboo and IRyS already chase whatever shit game is popular for the month, we don't need more, rather FWMC do what they want.
Since we are numberfagging, funny ERB is beating GG in their FF collab
There is one thing that would make me forgive them for all this and that was if they were spending all their time doing voice recording and motion capture for the fully voiced and animated sex scenes in their VN.>Who does the mocap for the male?Suisei.
>>112686241>>112686276You just know it will be Mococo spamming simulator games kek
>>112686280>sponsershipObviously botted.
>>112686321Then they are both botted and GG is still losing
>>112686315Sure. I have fun with them if they have some jank in them. Or if she wanted to play a real good one like Rune Factory 4, I would love it.
>>112686280That's probably because rosarians rarely get more normal streams, even if that is a shill stream. Otherwise she's doing ERP on twitch to less than 1k viewers, being over 2 years without an orisong, and the obvious male collabs.
Otomos are getting a handcam stream...
>>112686315Okay well something is better than nothingIf only they'd play a real simulator game like a princess maker, Factorio, or Elin instead of slop
>>112686196"sets" is a different word than "sales", you stupid ESL fuck
>>112686538Those aren't as interesting as running a waterpark
>>112686548Third worlder, you do realize I've been discussing their merch set SALES this entire time? Those are merch sales no matter how much you cope about it. Stop posting you retarded faggot.
>>112686564Waterpark was fun for 30 minutes then it became the same boring loop
They are graduating.
>>112685930>saba using default outfit>mint using that joke png outfitGrim
>>112686843Fuwawa could have been one of the top accountants in the world if only she continued...
>>112686902Fuwawa would have caused the entirety of Canada to collapse even faster and they'd be the 51st state by now.
>>112686843Isn't Mococo a bit worthless? She should embrace being the ruffian's personal cumdump onahole.
>>112686921Nah we'd give them to Puerto Rico treatment. Canada doesn't even deserve to be a state.
>>112686921I think most canadians would prefer that to their current situation.
>>112686993Really because I feel like there was severe pushback just a while ago and Canadians threatening to boycott US goods and fight us. Granted it may have been the person who delivered the proposal but still.
>>112687026Literally WHO would want to join the fucking US in this day and age
>>112686641Yes, I realize you've been trying to make this about merch sets this whole time because you're trying to use data from before they fell off as proof that they didn't fall off, because you're -actually- retarded. I, however, have been talking about sales since their hiatus the entire time, which you have been having a melty about, since you can't dispute those numbers, so you keep desperately trying to point to irrelevant data.Also I can tell you're getting tilted and are about to shift into the>erm actually I was just trolling u!!that retards such as yourself do when you know you've lost an argument. Go ahead with that, now.
>>112687054Most people who aren't perpetually online in an echo chamber run by demoralization algos and populated mostly by bots. Shit's not as bad as you think. People just want to sell you solutions, so they make up problems. If you wake up in a climate controlled environment and eat every day and aren't constantly at risk of execution, you're better off than 99% of human history.
>>112687106Ok but we're not talking about Burkina Faso joining we're talking about your neighbour Canada. They definitely do not want that downgrade.
I will take Fuwawa and Mococo as my Canadian brides. Spoils of war.
>>112687026If Canada became part of the USA decades ago I don't think they'd have their immigration and housing crises. And I don't think it would have changed their culture worse than what's happening now.
>>112686902Fuwawa would've been a sexy secretary to a Rothschild if she continued...
I just fell for a Japanese AI post, the one about the life sized acryasta breaking...
Fuwawa LOVES the brapffians!
>>112687246You're in a country where people literally go broke over a single accident happening or any medical bill
>>112687292everyone with a real job has health insurance and I wouldn't consider the rest "people"
>>112687277>GrokIf ever you needed more proof that this was a brown seanigger anti...
>>112687105>since you can't dispute those numbersI did and I already refuted you. You haven't been able to refute a single one of my points and now you're arguing semantics, which is what losers do.Their merch set sales are their merch sales. Hyper focusing on a period where they were forced to take breaks and then only sold dogshit plastic group merch most people don't care about isn't a good indicator of their merch sales. You'll be seething and coping like always when they instantly sell out their anniversary merch they'll have here in a month and I'll be there to grudgepost your retarded brown ass when FUWAMOCO win again, and you'll make your five thousandth post in this thread bawling about some inconsequential bullshit like you always do.Again I ask: Why are you even here, faggot? Because you clearly don't like FUWAMOCO. Is your life seriously so miserable and lonely that you spend every day doomposting about vtubers online?
>>112687292NTA, but FUWAMOCO said they were shocked that people could get a basic medical checkup in Japan because you can't get them in Canada.Canadians that don't want to wait 20 years for cancer treatment come to the US to get medical procedures done.Canada's government literally tells their white citizens to kill themselves through MAID if they feel sad and tells their sick veterans to do the same if their treatment is too expensive.Canada's "healthcare" is free precisely because it doesn't exist.
>>112687407>I did and I already refuted you. No, you didn't. My point is they're dead last in the most recent merch sales because they've fucked off, and you have not offered one single counter to that, instead you've tried>but they used to have good sales!!which is irrelevant, and>well yeah but it doesn't count because uhhh fuck you!!!!1111And now you've apparently moved on to begging me to leave because you can't handle the humiliation, lol.
>>112687292Ruffian this might come as a surprise to you but people aren't dirt poor in the US like they are in Maple Syrup Land
>>112687444Yeah if you're rich it's good. Then you get a bill for like 240k which they know you won't pay, so you "haggle" with the fucking hospital to get it down to like 30k and still have a huge hole in your bank account just because of an accident. It's all very dystopian. Don't get me started on the money it takes to go to university.
>>112687292Even when I was a broke college student I had health insurance that covered me for almost nothing. All of my elderly relatives have insurance. If stupid people want to pay full price for medical services then they're free to do so. I'll let my insurance haggle prices with hospital billers.I can walk into a clinic or emergency room right now for any illness or injury I could have and be seen quickly and get great care. Thank God FUWAMOCO are covered under Japanese healthcare because I know Fuwawa's elective surgery would likely never have happened in Canada.
>>112687507No of course not, everyone in the US is well off, you just got a trillionaire woooo, you'll all benefit greatly for this feat.
This isn't /pol/ fuck off.
>>112687506>My point is they're dead last in the most recent merch sales because they've fucked offAnd I already refuted that because I stated they always had poor group merch sales. It has nothing to do with your autistic hyper focus on a short time period.>but they used to have good sales!!True, and they will at the end of July as well. Best in all of EN and even better than some JPs.>And now you've apparently moved on to begging me to leaveNo I'm asking why you're shitting up the thread, monkey. Because it's obvious you hate FUWAMOCO because you either hate all vtubers or you feel personally slighted by their existence.Go ahead, tell us how the vtuber dog women mindraped you.
>>112687696>And I already refuted that because I stated they always had poor group merch salesShow me the group merch where they were dead last by a huge margin other than the latest.
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>>112687517Isn't public state college affordable? UCs/UTs and so on don't seem that bad.
>>112687817Show me the other ENs that can sell personal merch to the same degree they do. A stock of a few hundred pieces of merch being sold for $10 is nothing by comparison and no Ruffian cares about it like they do their personal merch and you know that. But you focus on it because you know you have nothing.Anyway, care to stop running from the big bad question you're too afraid to answer? >Go ahead, tell us how the vtuber dog women mindraped you.Also>reported me for topics they talked about on stream(and yes, as FUWAMOCO, janny)You're looking for an easy out you pussy LMAO
>>112687817>they were dead last by a huge margin other than the latestActually yeah, show us where they have been dead last by a huge margin. They were middle of the pack in Serendipity while Kiara was last
>>112688150>Anyway, care to stop running from the big bad question you're too afraid to answer?Hilarious that you say this after writing all that and then completely trying to dodge the one point of the post. Of course we both know you CAN'T show that, because you're full of shit. lol>reported me for topics they talked about on streamliterally no idea what you're talking about but I guess you really are an actual>everyone I don't like is the same personschizo
>>112687817How are they dead last?
>>112688150You're arguing with someone who wants to pretend not selling a lot of those ugly as fuck tumblr art style keychains is somehow a problem when ruffians have had so much way better merch to get from big figures to keyboards to all sorts of thingsI wouldn't even want those keychains for a dollar, they are legit bad
>>112688275Percentage of stock. Which is even more damning because it shows they're underperforming their sales targets precisely because they're fallen off from the numbers they used to move.
>>112688250Nothing was dodged, I already addressed you were wrong a dozen times and pointed out you're intentionally framing it in the most sensationalized way possible with your lies. >>112688275Care to answer my question you've dodged this entire time? Don't pussy out again.
>>112688112NTA but it depends on your scholarships / financial aid / research funding but with everything included it's <50k a year (that's including food, gas, and housing). It's way cheaper if you don't have to worry about housing and you carpool / take public. But if you want to go to a private, tuition alone can be double that.
>>112688319>Percentage of stock
>>112688319lol. You might as well bitch about their merch underperforming during enreco season 1. They were the only ones who didn't sold out back then
>>112688275ueh noeh raffians we're going to be in debt again
>>112688319>Percentage of stockLOL you're such a pathetic faggot with this cope
>>112688349My impression as a TA is that the schools will provide students in need with boarding if they work at say the library or the cafeteria. It seriously only suck if you go to somewhere like stanford and the kids there want to go for their weekly snowboarding session or some other expensive bullshit
>>112688350You mean like trying to talk about their birthday merch sets from 4 months ago? lol>>112688391So in your estimation, if a holo moves the lowest percentage of their stock for a merch item out of their entire branch, is that a good thing?I've been discussing the fact that they are declining the entire time, and showing that they are suddenly moving less of their merch target than ever before is the entire point of what I have been talking about for hours.
>>112688436Well on that note you'd probably have a better chance of getting work in the school in a private since publics tend to be super cramped.
>>112688463>showing that they are suddenly moving less of their merch target than ever beforeNigger that's true for everyone in EN these days. Bae couldn't sell out her anniversary merch. Biboo took weeks to sell out her bday set when she used to do so within minutes. IRyS took until the last moment to sell out hers. Nerissa/Raora/ERB didn't sell out their birthday sets
>>112688463>So in your estimation, if a holo moves the lowest percentage of their stock for a merch item out of their entire branch, is that a good thing?>I've been discussing the fact that they are declining the entire time, and showing that they are suddenly moving less of their merch target than ever before is the entire point of what I have been talking about for hours.And you won't address a single point about why the serendipity merch is selling worse for everyone. The shirt is ugly, the acrylic art isn't good, and it's just more plastic.>Oh no, they sold $500 less plastic garbage this time. IT'S OVERThis is you. You are retarded.Meanwhile they're the only ENs selling out personal merch in under a day.