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>>112685050

They don't hate us. They LOVE me.

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Are they rooting for Canada

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y5daYwo8RM
FWMC should cover this song because I really like it and Haruko Momoi voiced the tan loli character in the series.

>>112685813
BAUSED

>>112685813
uehhh

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https://rentry.co/fww-voice

Have fun!

What if on April 28th, Fuwawa's medical problem came back and so they realized the surgery was unsuccessful?
If the surgery was their last chance effort to fix something very wrong with her and it didn't work, then maybe that means there is no surgical solution and that means they'll have to graduate?

If that's what happened, they would be inconsolable. It would completely explain why Mama Puppy would offer to come to Japan to stay with them for so long, because they would feel like their lives are over and they'd be too sad to function by themselves. Of course she would want to comfort her daughters who received such bad news.
It would also explain the sudden cancelation of all their plans and streams on April 28. It would explain why they stopped talking to us and can't stream, because they can't make the announcement yet and seeing us happy for them in chat would make them break down crying.
It would explain why they're suddenly busy every day recording so much so quickly, because they'll never have another chance.
It'd even possibly explain why Mococo was still so depressed after Fuwawa came back. Maybe Fuwawa's prognosis was mixed and so they were waiting for the results of a test and so she was still really anxious. And then the test results came in on the 28th.

FUWAMOCO will be graduating because of Fuwawa's illness, which wasn't successfully cured with the surgery.

>>112687051
>Fuwa cancer
Please no...

>>112685056
BAU BAU

>>112685315
Is this Kronii?

>>112688532
Go ask papapuppy

>>112685056
BAU BAU
>>112685216
They love me the most.

>>112688519
They are the only ones whose serendipity merch sales tanked. If it was down for everyone, we'd have seen tank it for everyone. This was because they are ghosting.
>>112688565
>Meanwhile they're the only ENs selling out personal merch in under a day.
What personal merch sets have they sold since their recent hiatus? Seriously, do you have some sort of brain damage that makes you unable to process the concept of linear time?

>crossposting shitposts
kys faggot

>>112687051
>>112687516
kill yourself

>>112688646
>crying like a faggot that he can't run away from an argument

>>112688634
Eh, isn't it worse that Raora and ERB failed to sell out their limited? And that's recent too like a few weeks ago

>>112688634
>They are the only ones whose serendipity merch sales tanked.
I don't see how their sales tanked when you have people like kiara selling less than half of theirs

fuwaBRAP fuwaBRAPFFIANS

This sucks.

>>112688704
Kiara has always sold terribly. FWMC used to sell great and are now flopping.
>>112688681
That's always been the case for them. I'm not sure Raora has ever sold out a merch set. I've never looked at ERB's but I assume it's also bad.

>>112688634
>still coping about group merch and ignoring literally all evidence
>pretending he didn't get outed as lying the entire time
>crossposting to keep up the charade
Like I said you'll get BTFO come the end of July with new personal merch sets, just be patient anti-kun. I'm sure you'll still be camping this thread like the mindbroken, miserable, lonely third world retard you are, so don't run away from my grudgeposts when that happens like you've done this entire argument.

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I will always be Fuwawa's fat wetawded wuffian. In fact I'll be the last one standing.

>>112688749
Didn't Ina sell out within minutes? Her birthday was just last month too

>>112688749
>FWMC used to sell great and are now flopping
That's not true. Even going back to enreco 1, they were the only one who didn't sell out. They just never do well in these EN centric merch

>>112688771
Cool fanfic bro.
It's been about group merch the entire time. And specifically about the stock percentage ranking which has been posted and discussed in the thread numerous times which you'd know if you weren't a tourist.

>>112688749
>That's always been the case for them
That's not true. Both ERB and Raora sold out their first limited.

>>112688796
I'm not sure what that's got to do with the post

>>112688860
>It's been about group merch the entire time
Why the fuck will you shitpost with group merch where talents get shitty cuts.

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やぁ!

>>112688789
That's me in the photo

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Hello ruffians!
Thanks to your encouragement I started with my Nihongo learning journey!
Day 1041: Today I've just done my anki reps, I've learned 5 new cards.
FUWAMOCO love!
BAU BAU!

The timeline of events and information, as they have unfolded:
• Fuwawa had a medical problem and while it didn't hurt, it would require surgery to fix.
• They found out about needing surgery a little while before they told us.
• They likely received some kind of bad news during the Yu-Gi-Oh stream on February 12th, possibly confirmation she needed surgery, although this is just speculative.
• They were too upset about it to spend Valentine's Day with us.
• Mococo became too upset to stream and Fuwawa was the only one that showed up during the streaming relay for Mori's charity event on February 16.
• They made a "we're back" member's stream on February 20th, but they severely cut back on streaming for the next month.
• On March 19, they announced the surgery.
• They stated that the surgery was not life-threatening, but it was scary and needed to be fixed.
• They said it would require a month of hospitalization, which is not uncommon in Japan for specific types of surgeries.
• Fuwawa's last known appearance on stream before the surgery was on March 21. On March 24, Advent did an ASMR stream, however this was likely pre-recorded.
• Mococo was supposed to be in the holoEN golf-it tournament on March 27, but she no-showed for reasons likely pertaining to the surgery, and so the surgery probably happened between March 22 and March 27.
• Mococo was supposed to do solo streams during this time, but she was too upset and anxious, and later said she felt bad about not streaming enough.
• Fuwawa came back on April 23. Mococo was still visibly distressed and quiet. It was clear she was still anxious about something.
• They made a lot of streaming plans for the following week, and uploaded thumbails for multiple planned streams.
• On April 28th, they suddenly canceled all upcoming streams and removed all frames with the only explanation being that "Mococo was sick".
• The following week, they appear in Lui's Animal Tower Battle Tournament on May 3rd. Fuwawa is playing from Nerissa's house, using her switch.
• The following day, Fuwawa calls in to Mio's Golden Week wake-up gyakutotsu and says that Mococo is still sick and so she can't come to the call.
• They are completely silent until a May 21 SPCollect stream and a May 22 holovillage stream, where they reveal that their Mom had to fly out to Japan to help them and is currently staying with them. It seems she had already been staying there for some time.
• They stream ENRECO with seperate POVs between April 24 and April 29. Unlike previous dual-POV streams, they cannot be heard at all in each other's stream, even when screaming, possibly indicating they are streaming from different locations.
• On June 2nd, they stream a single day of Botan's Minecraft event for half the day's duration. Fuwawa's audio is audibly compressed through discord.
• The following week, they tweet that their mom is still with them in Japan.

Did I miss anything?

>>112688872
Well I know Raora at least hasn't sold out her last few because I bought them and I was annoyed that I rushed to do so instead of bundling. The point is it's not some recent shift across the branch, lots of sets are still selling out

>>112688959
>>112659235
Here >>111604617

>>112688880
Linked the wrong post, but specifically that FWMC are the only ENs selling out personal merch in a day which isn't true

>>112688959
gj!

>>112688634
The serendipity merch was trash. If they released a normal acrylic of the official art and a acrylic panel of the key visual I would have bought it

>>112688860
>It's been about group merch the entire time
Another lie >>112683303
>about stock percentage
You just tacked that on at the end of the thread because you were caught lying about them being dead last in total sales >>112683527 no mention of percentage until you got caught lying here >>112688275 and you coped.
As I said, them selling a few hundred dollars less of plastic isn't going to matter. They're basically the only ENs outside of Ina that can even sell their personal sets out in a day. I await what fantastical copes you'll be using come their anniversary when you get BTFO as always, anti.

All of this >>112688970
Is explained by this >>112687051

>>112689111
>>112688651

>>112689075
MOCOCO?!

>>112689011
Show me where I said "total sales" anywhere? You asked a clarifying question and I answered it. We've all seen the data posted before so that shouldn't even be necessary. It was about stock percentage from the start.
>outside of Ina
Wait a minute anon, you said they were the ONLY ENs to sell out their merch within a day. Is this that "moving the goalposts" you're so fond of accusing me of?

>>112688984
nta, so far these year: Bae took 1 hour, Biboo took 3 weeks, Kronii took 2 weeks, Mori took 2 weeks but she had more stock than usual, IRyS took like 4 hours, Ina took 5 minutes, Fuwawa took 5 minutes, Mococo took 2 minutes, ERB didn't sell out, Raora didn't sell out, Shiori took 40 minutes but she has less stock than usual, CCGG took 3 minutes for their CCGG special merch so yes you are right. In fact, I will argue there is no correlation between merch sales and stream times. You can have one bad run like Bae who didn't sell out 7 months before and selling out in 1 hour recently

>>112688970
Yeah, and now Fuwawa and Mococo had to cram all of the recordings for
>Serendipity
>Advent anniversary 3Ds/projects/merch(VPs)
>other 3D live guest appearances
and more that they would have done two months ago if they didn't have a surgery and illness that took up that time instead.

>>112689075
MOCOCO NOEHHHHHHHH

>>112688970
I wonder if Mocotyan is being a worrywart or Fuwawa's recovery not going as planned. Hard to tell

>>112689188
What is "dead last" supposed to imply otherwise? Show me where you said "stock percentage" before you got caught lying.
>It was about stock percentage from the start.
Isn't lying this much punishable by death where you're from? Someone should really get on that. See >>112689011 since you clearly didn't read it.
Feel free to address any points without lying next time.

>>112688860
>stock percentage ranking
No one cares about that shit. You only pull that crap when it turns out they aren't bottom of merch sales

>>112688789
Am I wetawded or are the images brighter these days?

>>112689363
It's hilarious to me you're bending over backwards to try to make it look like I said something I never did (and it wouldn't even be relevant to the point if I had) because you can't deal with the argument on its face, while simultaneously you *actually* straight up blatantly lied about them being the only ENs to sell out their personal merch. I'm not sure I've ever seen someone this far in a hole they've dug for themselves lol

>>112689570
>the argument on its face
Your argument on its face:>>112683527
>they were dead last in the most recent EN merch release
Not a single mention of stock percentage until you attempted(and failed) to weasel your way out of your lie at the end of last thread. You lost.
>bending over backwards
but enough about your mother.

Ruffians ae smart and only spend money on the items FUWAMOCO tell us to buy. They said if they don't tweet about it, it doesn't matter and won't give them a good cut. They never tweeted about en reco slop but always sell out merch that matters like the limited sets and special collabs like the fragrances also sell extremely well. Retarded sea antis are upset they aren't failing even without wasting time streaming.

>>112689153
It's either that or the baby/boyfriend rrat.
I think this one makes more sense and explains why their mom came out to see them for so long.

>>112689676
I didn't say total sales either. I just said last. I meant total percentage the whole time, and immediately clarified it when you asked.
Of course, you're now trying to attack the form of the argument (falsely) because you can't counter the actual substance. Even if what you're saying is true (it isn't), it wouldn't change the actual numbers in dispute here.
Also, you neglected to answer you lied about them being the only ENs to sell out their merch in a day? When that's not even close to true? Is it because you're a desperate disingenuous faggot? (Yes)

>>112689775
The reality is neither and you're a chimp

mocobrap

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I rewatching holo santos entirely

>>112689075
Moco-chan hates seaniggas...

bau

ex-fans are the most dedicated antis

>>112689768
>special collabs like the fragrances also sell extremely well.
Do they? Aren't they too risky for international shipping?

>>112689829
>I meant total percentage the whole time
You didn't, you would have said that to begin with. Instead you coped with that after someone posted the numbers. Show any of your posts where you mentioned "percentage" before the numbers were posted, I'll wait.
>immediately clarified it when you asked
Wasn't me and that wasn't you clarifying, you're just pulling a kike trick of pretending you weren't lying and totally meant something else that you never specified until you get caught lying.
>Of course, you're now trying to attack the form of the argument (falsely) because you can't counter the actual substance.
Enough projection. I already refuted you a dozen times last thread and you ran away each time. Their group merch sales were never impressive yet their personal merch sales are still strong, even their recent ones. You literally can't refute this and are just coping by saying it was months ago(no shit). Their next personal set in July will do just as well.
You still won't answer why you're in this thread even though we all know it's because you're an anti and hate FUWAMOCO. You still have yet to explain, what did they ever do to you?
>Also, you neglected to answer you lied about them being the only ENs to sell out their merch in a day? When that's not even close to true? Is it because you're a desperate disingenuous faggot? (Yes)
Never lied, I simply forgot about Ina's birthday. But since you're so fixated on this, in yet another of your obvious attempts to deflect and avoid answering any of my questions, I guess I'll just "clarify" now like you: They're the only ENs that can sell two separate limited merch sets with over 5k total stock sold, the second going on sale only 13 days after the first ended, in under a day each. Oh, and it was during FES as well.
This merch alone earned more than every EN's combined trinket sales for Serendipity. And unlike the Serendipity merch, they're earning hundreds of thousands from those sets instead of at best a few hundred dollars from cheap acrylics.
Now, will you answer my questions or will you keep running until you lose again in July? Though with how avoidant you've been I have a feeling it will be a rare now-show for you on their anniversary. You're scared.

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why are you fags essay posting today?

>>112689844
They're graduating. You had better prepare yourself for the announcement, seeing as you're this emotional already.
It's also why they've stopped streaming. Every time they want to, they start to cry. Mococo can't even function in her day to day life. She needs a parent to be there for her right now.
They're acting the same way Gura acted right before announcing her graduation.
There is nothing else that would make their mom have to come to Japan to take care of them besides this or helping them with a baby.
FUWAMOCO are graduating.

>>112690660
The monkey you shit next to on the street could come up with something better, try again.

>>112690641
Based Mogogo look at her go

>>112690565
Show me any post where I said "total sales". I'll wait.
>Never lied, I simply forgot about Ina's birthday.
You didn't, you would have said that to begin with. Instead you coped with that after someone posted the proof.

>112690660
So which Niji is graduating this time or did something weird happen at phasecon?

Someone's mom doesn't just go to Japan for multiple months to take care of their daughter with a cold. Because of the proximity to the surgery, her elongated stay is obviously related to that.
She is there to take care of them.
It's because of the news that FUWAMOCO received. And that news is that their dreams are dead because Fuwawa's condition is inoperable.

this bot keeps spaming the same post over and over again? wtf

Would you rather the baby rrat or the dying rrat be true?

>>112690728
kek BAUSED

>>112690873
>>112690922
>>112690728

The surgery didn't help. The symptoms reappeared on the 28th and that's why they suddenly canceled everything and had their mom come down.
It's why Fuwawa isn't living with Mococo. She is back in the hospital. The reason she had Nerissa's switch is because that is when Nerissa went to visit her, like she mentioned.
Everything now aligns perfectly.

>>112690847
Jelly got jelly I gave a blowjob to Muyu

>>112690970
>I gave a blowjob to Muyu
lucky you, I'd kill everyone in this thread to give a loli futa a blowie

>>112690922
I'd rather all you shitskins died.

Would you rather to have a mocobrap or a fuwabrap directly into your mouth?

>>112690787
Show me any post where you mentioned percentage before someone posted proof of your lies. I'll wait.
Anyway answer the question: Why do you hate FUWAMOCO?

>>112690942
How the fuck does a baby survive an abortion? Is this like super baby or something?

>>112691104
yes it is my baby afterall

Fuwawa was caught waping a Wuffian and is currently in a protracted legal battle. Per the terms of her arraignment, she is not allowed to stream until she is cleared of all charges.

>>112690922
I don't think she's dying because they said the surgery was not life-threatening.
But I think it has something to do with movement, like her ability to perform, and that's why they needed the surgery immediately. It's something that would likely get much worse over time if left untreated and make it so she'd never be able to dance again.

Honestly, it sounds like a joint surgery to me, which would also explain the 30 day mandatory hospital stay, since that is one of the surgeries they keep you there that long for.
And if that's the case, there are lots of things that can go wrong, including it healing wrong or the surgery simply being ineffective.
If that's indeed what happened, then they might be on a time limit and will soon not be able to perform anymore. That would definitely make them want to graduate.
So that's what I think happened. Their mom is there to comfort them over the surgery not going well.

>>112691096
Show me any post where I mentioned total sales before you latched onto this as a way to avoid responding to the argument. I'll wait.
Show me any post where you mentioned Ina's merch set before someone posted proof of your lies. I'll wait.
>Why do you hate FUWAMOCO?
Because they treat their fans like shit.

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>>112691092
bibrapo

>>112691187
Fuwawa is the perfect woman.

>>112691289
not a fan of streamers who stream too often

>>112691092
Logically speaking a mocobrap is better as mocochan seems to eat specifically to smell sweet and like strawberries. Her braps would be strawberry scented and flavored.

>>112691286
FWMC WARPED your mind.

>>112689241
>Ina took 5 minutes
She took 2 and a half minutes. You can easily check it in the archive

>>112691286
>Show me any post where I mentioned total sales before you latched onto this as a way to avoid responding to the argument
You never mentioned percentage so you coped with that after the numbers proved you wrong. Tough luck.
>Show me any post where you mentioned Ina's merch set before someone posted proof of your lies. I'll wait.
Actual schizo babble at this point, you somehow managed to be less coherent than before. That's a feat.
>Because they treat their fans like shit.
I don't think you were ever a fan to begin with. It's apparent you've been using them as a coping mechanism for being a lonely, evil faggot that nobody likes. If this is how you behave during periods of spotty activity then is there any merit for them to stream for assholes like you? You'll go right back to shitting on them the second you don't get your entertainment from them. You're everything you accuse them of being and worse.

Anyway you were also wrong about their percentage sold as well. For comparison, the last time anons checked stock for AFO merch FUWAMOCO only sold 154 of their stock of 468. That's just less than 33%. >>102391845 initial and >>102434791 sold
Meanwhile they've sold 513 of their 800 stock for their Serendipity acrylics. That's just over 64%. Nobody got he initial stock for the stickers but considering how cheap this shit is it's probably about the same. >>112322534 serendipity sales. This is also more merch units sold than their entire AFO stock that didn't sell out. MORE people bought FUWAMOCO's merch this time.
So not only did you lie, multiple times- you were also wrong about everything. You are mathematically and therefore FACTUALLY wrong.
You lost, anti faggot. FUWAMOCO won and deserve better fans than schizophrenic niggers like you.

>>112691969
You never mentioned total sales so you coped with that after the numbers proved you wrong. Tough luck.
You never mentioned Ina's birthday so you coped with that after the numbers proved you wrong. Tough luck.
>wall of text
happy for you or sorry that happened
not reading all that shit

>>112692049
>he ran away (again)
I accept your concession, faggot. Don't kill yourself before July ;)

Serendipity will be the last time you'll be able to see them live, since they're going to graduate.
If you ever wanted to go to one of their concerts, then you should probably try getting tickets.

So the tl;dr is FUWAMOCO are actually selling more merch for this concert than they did for AFO and antis lost.

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There's worse stuff out there guys

>>112692131
>Don't kill yourself before July
of course not I'm gonna be at serendipity supporting holos that actually give a shit
also
>trying to use a passive aggressive emoticon to hide how tilted you are that I didn't read the trash you literally spent half an hour researching and writing up
lol ;)

>>112692279
kek wow. On the other hand, at least shes communicating directly with her fans about a topic besides "don't forget to buy merch!", and "where's the fan art?!"

>>112692255
Proof?

>>112692387
>I'm gonna be at serendipity
You aren't
>I'm not mad u r mad
You spend every day seething at FUWAMOCO on 4chan lmao you have nothing. Your very existence is being a seething bitch.

>>112692524
>>112691969

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>>112692625
>You aren't
I am
>you have nothing
I got tickets to boo your flop oshis on stage lmao

>>112692279
>EN won't stream due to bad dreams
This branch is the worst.

>>112692760
>even now he's spending money to see FUWAMOCO
They won

>>112692760
That's Anime Expo, Serendipity isn't at Anime Expo.

>>112692873
>>112692279
I will take a on hour delay on her fourth stream of the weekend over an unexplained months long hiatus

>>112692903
Serendipity does not have physical tickets and you would say a screenshot is fake. AX is in the same location at the same time.

>>112692961
Yeah and ANYC was at the same location at the same time as BD and AFO, doesn't mean I went there.

>so mad he thinks the other anon is me
There's another thing you said I was doing last thread. More projection.

>>112692760
>anime expo
not serendipity

>Sunday night, the weekend
>During summer
>Most people are out of school now
>Less than a month before the EN concert
>EN Primetime
>Only people streaming are Biboo and Bae

No fucking wonder this branch is dying.

>>112693057
>thinking about school
you are unironically underage

>>112693078
Nope, I'm almost 40, but I do realize that Vtubing has to appeal to younger people as well if they want to survive. According to Nijiniggers, only 3 out of 10 young people watch Vtubers, although that could just be their own metrics since nobody fucking likes Niji LMAO.

>>112693109
>I’m almost 40
grim

>>112693122
Meh, I never saw any benefit to being younger. I'm enjoying my 30s more than my 20s.

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>>112693010
>>112693035
ogey

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>>112693170
>I never saw any benefit to being younger

>>112693219
Fake screenshot.

>>112693219
lmao you get an A for effort but thats so obviously fake

>still ordered FUWAMOCO merch
lol

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>>112693240
The only ss I like is Amagami SS.

>>112693109
This shit is gay. It's all about selling merch now-a-days and has lost all of the scrappy-ness it used to have. Lazy bitches have always been in the branch, but there was a period right after Advent debut where there was always something happening. Now it's all dogshit again, which is why you've got people like me asking for EN5.

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SS? You mean sweaty saggers?

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>>112693389
imouto best girl

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>>112693494
Fuwawa is an anime girl so her floofies deny gravity and always have a perfect shape.
>>112693523
For me, it's Haruka, Sexhair, Ai, and Tsukasa. Also where the FUCK is my Hibiki route?

>>112693339
it is not fuwamoco but I will not say who it is

>>112693488
>which is why you've got people like me asking for EN5.
Then you have people like me that still love FWMC but mainly watch phase and indies now.

>>112692279
SHE LOVES US

>>112693488
It was always about selling merch. I don't mind that. I don't mind vtubing being an evil industry that takes money from lonely men even. But if you're going to do it, at least do it right. Give me what I want. Give me streams. Make me excited for the girls so I actually want to go see them perform. People will gladly accept evil money shit if the service is actually good. Amazon is a hellhole but I can return whatever I like, no questions asked, and get a full refund. Hololive used to be better.

Y'all need femruffian pussy bad

>>112693891
fempebbles are superior

Korone's anniversary 3d live is in 9 hours.
I wonder if they'll show up in it?

>>112694197
>Lazy Doog Live
heh

>>112694197
more likely to call into su's totsu and pretend they ever gave a shit about her

>>112692760
>anime expo
are you fucking retarded?

>>112692760
Are you a brrat?

>>112694666
sorry you're poor

>>112691286
>Because they treat their fans like shit.
Do you shitpost in /ope/ too? kek

>>112690641
Go Mogogo go!

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>>112693978
fempebbles want ruffians too

>>112694703
>>112694759
no

>>112694912
>shitpost in /baubau/
>don't shitpost in /ope/
What kind of retard are you?

>>112694970
I'm an ex-ruffian. I don't care about Nerissa.

>>112694970
Why would I want to talk about Negrissa?

>>112694908
JP femruffians don't like eop.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/4254140/OVER_THE_TOWER/
They should play this game

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kek

>>112691969
>Nerissa sold the most in advent, more than biboo and FWMC
Wait I don't get it. Why did jailbirds buy this crap but not her limited?

>>112694985
shouldn't you move on to your new oshi instead of shitposting here?

>>112695118
They should play this game. Jewcoco will love it
https://store.steampowered.com/app/451340/Gold_Mining_Simulator/

>>112695231
I do both.

Be honest, who would you trade to get Sana back? I know there are ex-Sanallites like me here

>>112695309
paaktype-chamma...

>>112695287
Well you should move on and stay away from baubau. Win win for everyone

>>112695118
that shit is GAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
they should play towerclimb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2FYGqpOgro
takes 10 years to 100% (joking)

>>112695309
I'll trade in Ollie, easy. And I'm too new to even know who Sana was.

I'm oshihening if Mococo doesn't pee on the ruffians soon

>>112695381
Do you really want strawberry-flavored pee all over you?

>>112695309
Nobody. In fact I'd fire half of EN just to get more streams from the other half. Trade in Kronii, Gigi, Bae, ERB, all of ID to get CC, FWMC, IRyS, and Nerissa all streaming more. I'd also trade Shiori after Advent gets a live.

>>112695396
Yes

>>112695440
ueh...

>>112695343
nah I'm good thanks

>>112695410
>I'd fire half of EN just to get more streams from the other half.
Life doesn't work that way you'll just demoralize them and in a worst case they graduate in solidarity. Which would be the smart thing to do to springboard their indie career since every eye including the normie space would be on a story like that.

>>112695487
I can't think of a single ex-Holo who is more successful or even as successful as they were in Holo. Yes even with the increased cut they must get from merch and stuff. It's all just sad downgrades, especially in design and model. And they continue to not stream or play shitty slop games they would have played in Hololive anyways.

>>112694908
>67 Biboo
Cute

>>112695536
Biggest disappointment is kson. She just become a full on fleshtuber

>>112695636
Actually the Coco model and design was hideous, so that's an improvement.

>>112690942
>She is back in the hospital.
If that were the case, why wouldn't they just say that?

>>112695536
I hate Nimi's model, but she is arguably more successful now. She is fairly close to her old sub count and that's without the covid buff and years of dead subscribers accumulating, she probably has more actual fans now. Plus she keeps all the merch money, streams what she wants when she wants, and still gets to do lives and IRL events and shit.

>>112695699
Yeah I doubt that.

>>112695699 (Me)
oh and she doesn't have to hide her relationship, that's probably a big psychological bonus

>>112695686
They don't want to worry everyone.

>>112695741
doubt what? you can go look

>>112695776
She also has to eat all the costs for anything she does and has no help at all. Insert joke about Cover being shit yeah yeah they are, but for instance, as noted earlier in this thread even, her concert is struggling to sell even 20% of the tickets.

>>112695699
>gets to do lives and IRL events and shit.
Oshispark's quality is dogshit. It looks like it was put together by high school students. It's fucking embarrassing every time I see a screenshot of one of their events.
Anyone who looks at that shitshow after seeing their talent appear at fes or even a prerecorded 3D live produced by hololive and thinks, "yeah, this is good" has shit taste or is fooling themselves.
It's the 3d vtuber concert equivalent of western anime drawings on deviant art drawn by high schoolers who have no talent and never learned how to draw anime faces and so their art turns out looking like a western cartoon parody of anime.

>>112695843
Yet she continue to do those events even though the last one didn't sell out. Almost like without all that overhead you can afford to not completely fill the seats.

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>>112695776
Does this look like successful to you?

>>112695843
indies usually partner with companies to do merch and shit for them, it's not like she's handstitching plushies
if cutting out the middleman wasn't valuable then cover wouldn't even have a business of being a middleman in the first place
also concerts are a hobby project for her, she can't sing for shit, she was never a music holo, I doubt she cares about making a profit on that

>>112695929
Yeah man, women love losing money for no reason.

>>112695899
I want to remind you that unlike EN who seem to be very afraid of losing lots of opportunities if their concerts start to tank because the company will start to block things off, she won't have to worry about it if she can keep proving sales and viewership numbers. The gatekeepers in management can stop a lot of things.

>>112695892
Do you even know what overhead means? It's not like it's cheaper to rent a venue without Cover, in fact it's probably the opposite.

>>112695899
now do serendipity

>>112695940
>no reason
do you know what a hobby is

>>112691195
>But I think it has something to do with movement, like her ability to perform, and that's why they needed the surgery immediately. It's something that would likely get much worse over time if left untreated and make it so she'd never be able to dance again.
>Honestly, it sounds like a joint surgery to me, which would also explain the 30 day mandatory hospital stay, since that is one of the surgeries they keep you there that long for.
>And if that's the case, there are lots of things that can go wrong, including it healing wrong or the surgery simply being ineffective.
I wonder if it was something that could've just been fixed with physical therapy...but they didn't want to add more to their normal homework schedule and chose the surgery instead thinking it'd be easier

>>112696003
She was never a music holo as you said, I doubt singing is her hobby. She barely sung as LL and she rarely sings as Nimi now.

>>112695876
Yeah you can't argue the quality but the thing with EoP is the majority just don't give a fuck about the idol journey they just tolerate it because their oshi is into it and will even cope that the shit quality is better somehow because it has soul or some retard shit like that. Case and point go look at the twitter reactions to Mint's show at that dive bar, they loved that shit.

>>112696071
I doubt it. I have a bad shoulder and PT didn't help with it. PT is good for pain management but it is not a cure-all

>>112696075
maybe it's to convince herself she wasn't lying when she said she wanted to still be an idol but it's definitely not to turn a profit, there is no way she thinks she is making money off her singing ability

>Random indie concert flops
>"Oh well, guess I'll wait a long while before doing another one
>HoloEN concert flops
>EN talents start losing options to make money and have funding to their branch cut

>>112696170
It's more that HoloAss flopped and the company ate a loss of 21 million dollars while having SEVEN HUNDRED AND FORTY ONE FUCKING EMPLOYEES who don't make money.

>>112695685
The problem is that the Kson model is actually pretty good, she just never uses it and instead just became a fleshtuber.

>>112696208
No, they cut funding to ID because they failed to get results and now all the girls who gave a shit are bemoaning the fact that they don't get options they used to. That was before HoloAss got shut down. If you under-perform you lose privileges and opportunities.

>>112696246
kson's flesh model is pretty good too

>>112696142
She was never an idol.
She fucked vesper.
She is a selfish whore that ruined holoEN and betrayed her fans. There's a reason why she has lost 3 different friend groups.

>>112696246
I mean when you're as hot as she is may as well flaunt it before you hit the wall.

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>>112696257
ID has been bitching for literal years and it's their own fault. No sympathy for them.

>>112696208
Whatever happened to the swes working on holoearth? It can't be cheap keeping everyone on

>>112696257
I guess they "cut funding" by giving ID their first IRL concert?

>>112696290
They're probably on HoloDreams now.

Not a single council member has even mentioned Fauna once since her graduation.

>>112696286
Still no response to the fact that the company acts like a company and that's why a majority of EN have really been sweating over Serendipity?

>>112696286
I suspect management is pushing ID as EN-lite

>>112695285
kek BAUSED MOCOPOLY

>>112696276
>She was never an idol.
all holos are idols
>She fucked vesper.
I'll take your word for it
>She is a selfish whore that ruined holoEN and betrayed her fans.
an idol graduating to get married is literally how its supposed to work
>There's a reason why she has lost 3 different friend groups.
women are jealous of success

>>112696313
What's there to sweat about? They sold 10k+ tickets this year, pretty much the same as last year. EN ceiling is probably that unless they debut a new gen to draw in fresh eyes

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>>112695309
I'd trade Negrissa

>>112696309
Not a single Hololive member has mentioned Fauna once since she graduated*

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>>112696330

>>112696309
>>112696276
Because she really screwed over the rest of her friends. Hololive is a brand, and the brand is, or at least used to be, the walled garden.

But then Fauna comes out and publicly says she met and married someone while she was in Hololive and suddenly it puts suspicion on every other girl. Cuckposts run rampant in every Holo thread and every gleeful brown rubbing their dirty shit skinned hands together can point to Fauna and say "See? If she's like that, how many others are like that?"

It's the same reason JPs hated Matsuri cause she was constantly chasing e-celeb and Homo cock.

>>112696368
FWMC did in passing. They wanted to sing Ano Mori de Matteru with Fauna

>>112696368
CC said, "oh it's Fauna" when she was playing that CC fan game where fauna is running some kind of shop in the game.

>>112696360
No clue, but a few weeks ago they were really talking about how worried they were about the ticket sales.

>>112696368
GG dedicated a twerk in her live 3d to her

>>112696460
Only Mori was worried. The rest seems pretty relaxed about it

>>112695374
kek wtf is this kusoge
this is amazing
this basketball is so good wtf

>>112695685
baused
>>112696246
BAUSED

>>112696367
A Negris for a negress. Fair trade.

>>112696391
It's even worse than that because she tried to push the Hololive is black company rrat when she graduated just so she could get more attention on her indie self.

>>112696605
Reputations take years to build and a second to destroy. Every Rushia, every Fauna, every lazy whore who doesn't stream and just cynically cashes checks, every Twitch whore who brings their "humor" to Hololive hurts the other girls in multiple ways.

>>112696367
Holy sex, I hadn't seen this one

>>112696605
Nah the worst thing she did was to have her merch set and concert before announcing LLD.

Bae is talking about her farts again...

>>112696387
kek

>>112696276
BAUSED

>>112696675
Kronii beat her to it when she dropped her daki and mousepad before going full Homocollaber.

>>112696745
Homocollabing is bad but it's no where near as bad as fucking one.

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>>112696694

>>112696276
>>112696391
This is the only sane Ruffian here. Nimi is a piece of shit and has been nothing but a huge negative for the en sphere as a whole

>>112696342
>an idol graduating to get married is literally how its supposed to work
Saplings brought it upon themselves, you know? They called her mommy so much that she got gaslit and psyoped so hard she broke things off with Kronii, became straight and wanted to become a real mommy.

>>112696675
She just needed an extra allowance of condom money. Orc sized condoms aren't cheap.

>>112696790
embarrassingly obvious samefag

>>112696745
Kronii is feminized now

>>112696790
Nimi is just one part of it. Whores like Bae, Kronii, and ERB are another. Ironic weebs like Gigi and Mori are another. Lazy girls who don't stream like MOST OF EN are just another. This fucking branch is getting killed from all sides and the rot is in deep. And now FWMC themselves are AWOL. EN needs CGDCT who fucking stream and they can't seem to find girls who do both besides Biboo.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/kg72OgabSmc

>>112696758
They're treated like the same exact thing on this board, otherwise Shiori would still have a thread lmao

>>112696867
It's easier for them to not work and get paid. Their jobs don't matter much to them because they all think they'll be similarly as successful the moment they leave Hololive.

uh oh phasefaggots are getting uppity since their con flopped

>>112696892
There have been more than enough examples by now to show that is not true.

>>112696790
I remember for a good few months, indies were all doing their own variants of LLDs

>>112696914
If I were a Phasenigger or a Nijinigger, or any of the seething small indie fans, I'd be saying that EN is fine as it is and in fact should lean more into Twitch humor and Homocollabing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s0tYBhlYLo

>>112696976
>the phasefaggot thinks he invented the concept of concern trolling

>>112696976
Why would any of them even spend time here. Don't they have oshis to watch?

>>112696976
Yup feigning toxic positivity and calling everyone shitposters, schizos and antis that complain about the status quo is the most effective way to demoralize them and lurkers. Take it from me a PhaseGOD that camps this thread.

FWMC should do a cover of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHdLNbXPc44
It's such a goofy thing that there was a small pop-up of 60's bossa nova rolling through Japanese pop in the late 90's and early 00's. Such a fun sound.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaa

How do you say hi to someone you've masturbated to several times?

At least we know there's one management mandated stream with raora for the serendipity group name announcement.

>>112697287
Hallo Hallo BAU BAU?

>>112697287
Hello!?

>>112697069
BAUSED

>>112697287
Fuwawa would smell you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGanXWW9Wss
Fuwawa...

>>112697287
Every paypig at anime impulse for their meet and greet jerks it daily to them and they all managed fine. Everyone knows and no one cares.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/zFg4xzypG7I

>>112697846
I wonder if anyone told her they love her fat floofies

Do Japanese women still like Western men or is that a myth?

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I feel like Mococo would give this look to you if you bridle carried her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9GbTK502nk
They should play this game

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>>112698086

>>112698203
I'm not fat I'm tall and muscular. White.

https://youtube.com/shorts/MBl1cA2KI-Y

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>>112698113
Take her into the bushes and kiss wape her while she lightly struggles.

>>112698280
Is friend really such a lewd woman?

>>112698371
Enemy is a bad influence

>>112698280
I though Koyote was Aqua for some reason

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Mococo would probably eat this show up outside of the mystery plot points every other episode. They even introduced a palace cat in this episode.

No one ever talks about titfucking friend it's always shoving it in her ass or mouth.

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>>112698932
Friend has a dynamite body

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>>112698954
The king and her dynamite body.

>>112698932
that's all so boring I'd rather have friend shove it in my ass and mouth

https://store.steampowered.com/app/4301300/Incrempire/

>>112699016
Should they play this or not?

>>112698988
She's a pure woman how is she going to do that, faggot?

Less twitter time more streaming time, girls.

>>112699054
pussy in mouth

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>>112698608
>>112698970

>>112699156
If fubuki is the sexy king and Mococo is the delicate princess then what are laffians?

>>112698608
Mococo would probably self insert as the savant heroine

>>112699241
I'd insert myself into Mococo.

Mocoslut

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>>112699209
Their dildos.

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>>112699027
ueh noeh

>>112699689
rape fuzzy

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/C6rlJ8tHDjI

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>>112699756

>>112700162
Mocobaby

Mocoboobs

Mococunny

https://x.com/thatusagiomg/status/2066424140937195894

>>112701098
what the fuck is wrong with indies man...

>>112701098
Indietroons not like this...

>>112701098
ngl if my gf was a vtuber I’d be tempted to fuck her on stream too

>>112701188
but you wouldn't fuck a crazy filipino woman

There's a fluffy woman goin' 'round takin' names
And she decides who to wape and who to blame
Everybody won't be treated all the same
There'll be a golden ladder reachin' down
When Fuwawa comes around

>>112689327
>>112688970
>>112687051
All these "Fuwawa is too sick and weak she's not healing up..." dumb rrats fall apart when you realize they're still very physically active and having dance lessons and other stuff, which is all far more exhausting than just zatsu streaming.

>it's still replying to itself.

>>112701426
Nah I jwu

Mococo's pee