I really thought Deme got creampied on stream but after Menace's comments I feel pretty stupid.Reminder:>Menace loves men, treats them with care and embraces them being masculine and dominant>Top3 GFE in vtubing>Expert on lewd things done on streamYet even she thinks people that believe this are creeps with cuck fetishes. We need to take the loss here guys we acted like brown retards.
>>112764575Sure, good for you anon
>>112764575OP is making stuff up about Deme to cover his Gay BBC Orgies he had this weekend. He could just admit he's gay and be done with it but he had to use other chuubas as scapegoat. Shameful, truly shameful
>>112764575>reacting to the game>moaningYeah menace you sure are an expert
what did you expect, incels don't know what sex is like
>>112764667esl anon
>>112764575The idea of "embracing men being dominant and masculine" and arguing that people "want to see her get railed because they hate her" do not go together anon. The implication of that is that it'd be degrading to have sex with a man aka "get railed", and so people who hate her want to see that. And even if she only wants to say that the guys who post that stuff think like that, it's still very telling this is what she'd focus on/assume is people's angle, as opposed to the ideas of this being incredibly hypocritical of Deme and being broadcast to children. I have zero idea who Menace is, but this reads like a grifter.
>>112764575I wish Menace would teach me about sex
>>112764575>menace sides with a vtuber with higher viewers and shits on her audiencegee! this is the FIRST TIME this ever happened! :D
>>112764575Menace is the leading expert in getting fucked on steam without her fans realising, so her opinion means a LOT
>Thread mad as hell Menace likes her audience and even talks to them privately offstream instead of resenting themphase fans are funny
Funny how she doesn't say "As an expert in getting fucked." If you want to weigh in but still pretend you're a virgin because your entire business hinges on it, actually just don't weigh in.
>>112764575Menance is also a man hater, no one should take her seriously.
Menace in this tweet sounded exatly like some of the demecucks in the deme threads here. Interesting.
>>112764830>price per message $10
>>112764831you sound like an expert too with all those dicks so far down your throat
>Menacethe most credible chuuba
>>112764860Get out of here, Menace.
>>112764830Phase bf having sluts could never
>>112764730(me)Judging based on anons itt, I guess I correctly clocked her as a grifter on first exposure? Kek
>she has ADHD or something I don't know lmaoRetard.
>>112764830for 10 bucks she better watch me jerk off to her and then rate my cumload, tf is this shit?
>>112764575I don't think she's getting fucked on stream because that's just too silly. Literally something you make up as a rrat. But it's funny so I pretend it's true, like the Mari 5guys thing.
>>112764831Was just about to say this Lewdtubers constantly want to patronize their viewers for being clueless virgins despite their whole gimmick being they've never touched a man before. Egirls just can't resist the chance to kick you down.
>>112764910Yeah, she had like 10 PLs and each contradicted a previous one lmao, and she is obviously a whore. her ASMR is nice though, but amateurish, takes a few tries to get used to, but then you'll get bored after a few
>>112764855>>112764917Well yes phase fans this is called gatekeeping. When you're not brown and fat like the majority of your con audience throwing away 40 bucks like that is nothing for a landowner.
>>112764910She's a grifter sure but she's a bit of a special case since she goes hard on gfe so you have anons that donated 4 figures to her posting non-stop. She also released a mousepad where you watch her get fucked which is the most cucked thing I've seen in a while.
>>112764695Asmongold regularly moans during streams with his webcam onIs he having sex too?
>>112764996if only he was bouncing on it for half an hour yes
>>112764575I'll believe in her if she posts examples of her getting railed while playing a game. Otherwise, how I'll know how women really act in this situation?She's free to post it whenever or do it live.
>>112764953>everyone who doesn't want to pay money to a whore is a phase fan$40 to talk to your oshi is kinda gay, I can talk to mine anytime I want and for absolutely free, in fact sometimes she just dms me to ask my opinion on stream ideas ect.
>Mousepad mentioned''Anon! Touch my boobies if you want, the bull is almost done filling me up''
>>112765063Mindbroken by Menace award
>>112765063ew so that's why she sided with deme
>>112765063what dumbfuck designed this? you touch the girl from the front...it's so obvious a jeet could get it
>>112765063>the dude pounding her left a bite mark on her titties before you touch itHoly cuckdom, no wonder they were trying to get everyone on their side by shitting on phase.
toys won't yield the same result as getting fucked by living beings, I hope she knows that. lumi simply won by doing nothing.. again
>>112765063lmao
>>112764575why can't this bitch shut up and stop acting like an expert on everything? all she does is suck on mics and she was listing who's bad at asmr too
>>112764575>Hyper-autistic virgin>Claims to know what it's like to fuckUh...
>>112764695>>112764730>>112764800>>112764812>>112764831name your oshi I want to be prove right on something :)
>>112765222She watched a lot of porn and rated too many cocks and cumshots from her viewers she's basically an expert
>>112765242My oshi is kanna yanagi
>>112764575>weird cuck headcanonsDidn't Menace release a mousepad of her getting railed by some guy?
>>112765063Phasecucks love this shit
>>112764575I really don't like how much Menace is interacting with drama lately. holy woman moment, just shut up retard. None of your fans watch this hoe, just stay on your own corner and dont invite dramafags to shit on you
>>112765264you don't go all in on making porn your job without irl experience too
>>112765327she's milked her oilers dry and wants out of vtubing now, she got a boyfriend sometime in the last year (you can tell because her porn became way more generic since and lost its soul) and now she wants to retire and make babies.
I fucking hate to admit it but Lumi was right about lewdtubers. Actual subhumans.
What exactly does cuckoldry have to do with thinking a non-gfe vtuber got fucked on stream?
>>112765264But we haven't seen her getting railed on stream once. How could she be an expert without concrete documentation or evidence to back that up? We shouldn’t trust someone based on vibes alone. That’s not how a strong and trustworthy society works.
>>112765486Vtubing is a cuck hobby.
>>112765242ekkomori
>>112765333I think you can, especially if you are trying to create dojin atmosphere and stuff, but it's definitely not the case with her.
>>112765486Menace blames cuckoldry on everything after people complained this mousepad >>112765063 makes 0 sense since you touch her body from the front.
>>112765242Donald John Trump
>>112764575>she's reacting strongly to the gameexcept in some of the clips she's literally not doing anything at all in game and nothing is being said in chat either
>>112765524She is a mean bitch, just like Deme, so she can't swallow her pride and admit that she was wrong and pull the product or promise better product next time, so she would rather call everyone cucks and haters and whatever other buzzword. I watched Menace a few times and seen her tweets besides her ASMR, so that's the the vibe I'm getting.Also I guess it's benefitial to blame everything on cucks, so your simps have less doubt in (You), whenever you farm donothons and go on vacations.
>>112765063I'm sorry Menace but legitimately what were you thinking with this?
>>112764831It's unironically a big fantasy of her getting fucked on stream without revealing it she's never made a secret out of that
>>112765063the funniest part is it still sold out on day 1. It's why you usually see people trying to defend this cuckshit on /vt/, surprised its so one-sided today.
>>112764575Why does everyone fail to mention Deme's head tilting back and choking for a moment before continuing on like normal? Like what the fuck was that about?!?!
>>112764575I trust her because she's very used to schizos.
>>112765559for all the benefits vtubing has given the worst part is without a doubt the massive ego EN ones have gotten so they double down on every little thing.
>>112765632It's like a some vrchat meme or whatever
>>112765691What kind of fucking meme is that?
>>112764575Nah. She got plapped
>>112765632it's the phantom pain meme about that one furry vr faggot that had a video made about them.
>>112764575>>112765108Nice try, but shes been caught multiple times now getting railed on stream.Sauces:>>112758070>>112763959>>112743060She got caught. Now she needs to take the hint and continue getting railed on stream.She got plapped anon. She got absolutely fucking railed on quite a few streams.
>>112765242believe it or not my oshi is menace
this place is so weird. joking about people dying or getting stalked is based but if you call some loser a cuck on twitter that's a low blow that's too far.
>>112765794you weren't here when everyone and their mother was crying over clara joking about kirky
>>112765794>joking about people dyingYeah... joking.
>>112765794It's not about what's being done to someone, it's about who. If they don't like someone, they are going to cry very loudly, and just say "nothingburger" when it's about someone they like. As usual
>>112764575So what has Menace actually done to spawn schizos here? Has she cucked her fans, stolen money, been bitchy, etc?
>>112765794Its too close to home anon thats why they sperg out and spam replies quoting themselves
>>112765817#WeAreJellyKirk
>>112765794/vt/ and rightwingers on twitter just have their golden children, don't ask me why some skinnyfat cuck is part of it.Just remember how many people seethed in anger when people make jokes about shondos mommy
>>112765850she started being a whore with lovey dovey asmr masturbation streams and now she just does hour long business mandated fuck audios where she treats you like just a penis
>>112765850>Has she cucked her fans>>112765063
>>112765850she's more successful than the vtubers who post here
>>112765891>>112765918So nothing really then? I thought she pulled a Yuko and rugpulled her fans or something.>>112765904This is pretty egregious though lmao
>>112765063This is worse than I would have originally thought lmao
>>112765945she actually did call most of her old fans cucks and then started to whore out to like 5 specific whales which made her have a huge amount of antis
>>112765780Don't worry she will she is an exhibitionist
It started with a random average nfsw art, in case anyone has lost the plot
>>112765850She did gfe, then complained about gfe, then came back to gfe or whatever, I don't really hate her, but she gives huge whore vibes, so I why would I take her seriously.
>>112765817chuds never recovered from losing the kirk wars
>>112765063This mousepad is the equivalent of commission art of your oshi getting married but your behind her.
>>112765063women are so braindead, all she needed to do was say sorry instead of>go on rant on twitter>say she finds this hot and she doesn't care if you can't relate>delete everything>spend days telling everyone only cucks care about this and chads love this view bitches and whores baka
>>112766027I don't think chads buy these mousepads.
>>112766027Do you still have her rant? I wanna see
>>112765063How come a dozen anons see this and instead of self inserting as the alpha, they instead fantasize about being cucked?Are these the ripened fruits of Nathan Yahoo? I think it is, not only that they will attack me for exposing what's obvious, defending their submissive view as somehow superior. This generation of white republicans is doomed.
>>112766113>How come a dozen anons see this and instead of self inserting as the alpha,because it's a mousepad you braindead jeet, everyone and their mom knows the way you interact with a breast mousepad is touching it in-front.
>>112766113Same reason anons see a NTR image and self insert as the cuck
>>112766145You can't rotate an apple in your imagination, can you.
>>112766113Because the POV is in front of her not behind? If you gotta jump through hoops to prove its not cucking, it's probably cucking.
>cuck defense force is hereYou love to see it. Cuckoldry is intrinsic to vtubing.
>>112766113>bro don't feel bad about watching her get fucked that could totally be you. ignore your hands not being behind her bro that's totally you. look you're making her cum bro, clean her up since it's you:>)
>>112766176>>112766145>>112766220>you look at the image from the front so it's cucking you!The absolute state of home grown cucklets jesus fucking christ
>>112766113If it wasn't cuckshit why doesn't she just get fucked in the front?Why instead is she drooling from a good fucking and keeping eye contact with you? You bought this shit didn't you cuck lmao.
>>112766228I'm sorry people are making fun of your mousepad anon.
>>112766176Anon, you're the one jumping through hoops to position yourself as the cuck!
>>112766228Should I donate you 10 bucks so you menace can cheer you up, Jeet?
>>112766166>>112766228Be honest, you faggots wouldn’t say this if the arm was black.
>>112766288Can you show me any other vtuber mousepads designed like that?
Anons realizing they were cucks all along by their own choice has got to be the funniest shit
its my goon locking her up actually. im fucking her in the front
>>112766320I wish it was.
It's so funny how this whole mousepad shit could've been avoided if she just erased the arm behind her.
>>112766320Actual truth nuke holy fuck
>>112766378Is this the western equivalent of the korean small penis histeria?
At what point does this get called out for being a soft psyop and not a shitpost? This kind of well poisoning is very bad for vtubing as a whole
>>112766408Answer the question >>112766320
>>112764575Who cares, deme is a piece of shit that tries to start drama with everyone else all the time and dates a psycho who's tried to stab her before.
>creeps with cuck fetishesso menace fans then
>>112766378Like someone mentioned earlier Menace has a fetish for getting fucked on stream and in public areas, she's a massive exhibitionist. She did a rookie mistake and commissioned the art to turn herself on (Watch me get fucked~) instead of turn on the customers (grope my big sweaty breasts~)
I don't really care about the current drama but the reason why I stopped being interested in deme was after she was being pretty schizophrenic on stream.on one hand she said >I dont wanna involve myself in drama, im not about thaton the other hand she followed up with an anecdote of >there was a weird schizo in my community and she was a vtuber too, she did [insert terrible thing] and some other backstabbing telling other people how horrible I am. But I blocked out her name, from my memory it was so badchat than continues to name random vtubers off twtitch>[Vtuber name] yeah thats the one! xDDand immediate backpedal into>maybe its not her lol i dunno anymorewhich one is it deme, do you wanna not be involved in drama or randomly do callouts on stream for shit that may or may not have happened?
>>112766445some even dream of black men cucking them specifically >>112766430 >>112766320
She doesn't bounce 99% of the time while streamingShe even banned two people for joking about onlyfans content at the wrong moment while getting fucked and audio is missing in outerworld part 3
I'm quite sure her content is "teasing", and tits and pussy are off limits...
>>112766457Probably because she’s a human being who doesn’t consult a PR team every time she reads a question from the livechat
>>112766455Sorry buddy, actual reasonable responses aren't welcome here. The cucks have already self inserted themselves in the chair and are far too invested in defending their 'hands off' POV to accept that fact.
She also always goes blind while she bounces on it, suddenly gets shy about the tongue, sleepy, so sleepy and yet keeps streaming and bouncing...
>>112766515gotta use the mouse pad upside down to get the bull pov
>>112765063It's for the crowd who says "You are supposed to insert as the bull, and not the cuck" despite doujin being from cuck pov lmao
>>112766509>a question from live chatwhat was the question?Why are you inserting random informaton into my retelling?She randomly started going of a tangent about being backstabbed by someone and went directly to namecalling a random streamer with a half assed backpaddle after accussing that streamer by name of trying to rile up friends, viewers and mods against herself behind her back.
>>112766576You're supposed to feel pleasure from cucking the cuck anon of course it's from his perspective
>>112764575Menace wants to pioneer getting plapped on stream, deme is a threat
https://litter.catbox.moe/cu7yvlvt645r15rz.mp4
>>112766544Also check this out from Deme's subathon unlisted vod:>>112763959
>>112766588Is being amused at gymnastics considered a pleasure? Then I do indeed feel pleasure.
>>112766599based
>>112766576Since im self inserting as the bull and you're self inserting as the cuck, does that make you a legitimate cuck, or do you have to physically be in the same room with other people? Im kind of virtually cucking you right now and you're willingly choosing to watch me do it in front of you.
>>112766599she was lying btw, I was railing her
>>112766632Nice
>>112766630no it makes you a faggot, stop thinking about other men anon
>>112766630>you're self inserting I'm not, I'm saying from what point of view it is shown, anon, anything else is your imagination.
>>112766660Why are you thinking of me cucking you?
>>112766599Real or not, this Deme shit is gonna get clowned on for the rest of the year ain't it? It seems to already hit the normie sphere
>>11276666699% if illustrations depicting sex has the point of view of an observer anon
>>112764575B-But Deme thinks she's better than me because muh feel-feels so I need this to be true so I can cancel her in the future.
>>112766712It's obviously bad, since she made an "apology"
>>112764575whores lie and whores stick up for other whores. its ok to believe that fat bitch has sex during stream because its reality and honestly her fatass needs to lose as many calories as she can whenever possible. and her fans are cucks they've been openly admitting. whores lie, cucks wont die
>>112766576All of the NTR doujins I fap to are from the womans POV.
>>112766735It'll probably become one of those infamous vtuber moments that even normies make fun of. Like that male vtuber concert or Ironmouse getting uncomfortable near black people
>>112766699I wasn't, I'm nor that anon, I just hate faggots like you who can't do anything but think about cocks
>>112766719Observer doesn't exist, anon, but with mousepad you are interacting and touching it from the front, hence the front pov existing because of said interaction, unless you put the back side against your chest and fondle it like that.
>>112766712>>112766735this behavior also feeds into my critisicm of her schizophrenia where she "doesnt wanna be part of drama" but keeps inserting herself into it or activily trying to bait or create it.Dont worry, though, everyone will just gloss over it once they know she is a philipina with a disability (not mental)
Menace is expert in this
>>112766796That's not sex though, it's just masturbation, we have like gorillion chuubas masturbating on streams that don't do as much noise and movement as Deme did
>>112766796this shit was so robotic I could barely cum 5 times, her older asmr style ramblefaps were so much hotter, could drop 8 loads+ to those
>>112764730>it's still very telling this is what she'd focus on/assume is people's angleBut she is right though. If Deme was a dude 100 percent this would not be the drama people would be pushing. A lot of the loudest twitter and youtube-tards are on that gender war drama shit pushed by engagement farmers.
>>112766265the audacity to make this post with a smug wontons girl
>>112766866>people of different sex are treated differentlyNo shit, and if my grandma had wheels she'd be a bike. Imagine if cucki was a girl and she was a dude?
>>112766866Well yeah no one cares if a dude gets his dick sucked on stream anon, kai cenat did that multiple times and nothing happened. but that's just how streaming is, men sell entertainment, women sell sex
>>112765063>cuck POVholy lmao this can't be real
Same way you don't see people on the net making fun of her getting back with her abusive bf, and him SA'ing someone close to her, cucking her afterwards, just because she is a woman, if she was a man they would shit on her, because she is a shithead dramafag, well, now they do probably because she was the first one to start it.
The western scene is rotten to the core with pure degeneracy. And no, I don't mean that in the watered down internet definition sense. I mean in the genuine morally defunct sense. Far too large of a chunk of the western scene is about acting like as big of a whore as you can, whilst maintaining a level of plausible deniability that you're not an actual whore. It's about milking as much as you can from sad men while pretending to like them. It's just being an e-whore with a pretty bow. The reveal of vtuber orgies being a thing is hardly a reveal or surprising, considering what EN vtubing has turned into.If I see something that looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, why should I believe you when you tell me it's a lion, especially when you have a history of lying? Look at the biggest twitch vtubers in the past few years and all the bullshit that's surrounded them, that they'd like us to pretend never happened, and that everything is all sunshine and rainbows. The western scene is just pure deceit at its core, so you'd have to forgive me if I don't immediately eat the diarrhea of a western vtuber trying to dig their way out of taking accountability.
>>112764695Menace does moan while excited because of ADHD
>>112766866If deme was a dude I wouldn't care because I'm not gay.I don't give a shit about the drama, I wanna see vtubers stealth fucking while playing games.Doesn't need to be Deme either, if Menace or some desperate 2view with a lewd model does it, still fine for me.
>>112766796I'm honestly not a fan of the bodycam streams she does at all.Menace will always be at her best when she does incredibly needy femdom ASMR where she fantasizes about all sorts of her favorite scenarios clearly getting off and lost in her own thoughts while taunting you about how you need to hold it in and aren't allowed to finish until she says so
>>112767075This right here anons
You faggots are such cucks!! You'll never have a hot girl like me, go on keep dreaming about getting cheated on, i love that mousepad
>>112767269No, femanon comeback, if I say I loved that mousepad will you sex me?
>>112767269Sadly only black men can satisfy you.
>>112767299do you often larp with yourself anon?
>>112767269okay menace go back to twitter where people will pretend to like you
>>112767024>I'm a chud I'm chud I'm a fat little chud, why aren't women sucking me while I play video games?
>>112766430Oh let me correct myself, deme is a piece of shit who defended her boyfriend raping her sister and stabing her and loves starting drama shit with other vtubers. What a fucking scumbag.
>>112767322Not really, why do you ask?
>>112766113Because, you retard, it's a boob mousepad, so you're getting the cuck view where she's looking at you sitting in the front, while some other guy is fucking her from the back. If it was an ass mousepad, with hands holding her waist, then you could have self-inserted yourself in the chad ramming her.
>>112764812>>112765583>>112766455kek
>>112765242Shirara
>>112765242flirstfower
>>112766630>Since im self inserting as the bullThen who is using the mousepad and touching her boobs from the front, you fucking retard? Do you cucks understand how POV in drawings work? >>112766576That's not the same thing. The story in doujins is often from the POV of the woman or the bull. The art is almost always from the POV of the reader, not the cuck.
>>112767087Menace's lolidom is the best too bad she's in her submissive phase again right now and mostly does content where (you) ravage or punish her like that piss holding ASMR she did where she drank a ton of water and held off on peeing for almost 24 hours before recording and her bladder was about to fucking burst and sounded incredibly painful and she roleplayed you toying with her by massaging her tummy in that state and forbidding her from peeing and shit
>>112767884bros... how do i get a menace gf...
>>112767939Uhh you probably dont want to brother. She might cuck you.
>>112767869>oftenDoes it? Anytime I tried giving it a try, you would have cuck internal thoughts, which is just a turn off.>the artYeah, I agree, I mentioned interaction in later posts. Same with animated stuff or ecchi, (You) don't exist there.
>>112764575I don't watch Deme and I likely never will so I don't know if the behavior she has in the videos I've watched are just like normal tics for her or something but from just looking at the videos themselves it does seem like she's doing something sexual with another person. Particularly with like the random moaning, difficultly reading, and the part where it looks like she's jerking someone off. The bouncing could be rocking back and forth or something so at least with that I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt but not with the other stuff.
>>112767980or might not, i just have to do a good job! can you tell me how to get one then?
>>112767980Menace is the kind of girl that gets off on being treated like shit I'd just have to chain her up under my desk and tell her she's no longer allowed to talk and is supposed to act as my toilet from now on and she'd be happy as can be
>>112768021So you see anon, you need to find a woman who is particularly mentally ill with the same fetish as her. Idk man
>>112764575stop being a cuck nikita, imagine getting cucked on stream because rapist chad can fuck her and her sister whenever he wants to. Chad do what chad want
>>112764575I swear I followed this bitch purely because of the dota, how the fuck does she manage to keep getting picked up like this every other week
>>112768008As someone who occasionally beats off to ntr, yeah, it's like a 60/30/10 ratio between woman, cuck and bull focus respectively, when it comes to doujinshi. A lot of stories are essentially mindbreak/corruption with one page of establishing the main girl has a boyfriend/crush at the start because NTR is the top selling tag in most doujinshi sites. Others do have the cuck around, but the focus is still on the woman and the guy is there more as a prop to show her fall from vanilla lovey-dovey sex to animalistic fucking.Actual soul crushing ntr is pretty rare because it requires an author that can write well.
>>112764575this is the female equivalent of saving private ryan btw women LOVE justifying sexual depravity
>>112768408saving private Ryan had an intention, spirit, reasonthis is just retards deflecting
>Woman>ExpertYou may only pick one.
>>112765063she should join phase connect
>>112764996with his big black dildo
>>112765242(You)r oshi ;) I'm in your walls
>>112765242so now that you have all 5 answers did you prove yourself right anon?
>>112765242you don't need to do nothing i already have a 2 minutes compilation of my oshi moaning and i always use it to relax.
>>112768997*incomprehensible schizobabble*kys
This whole situation is so fucking funny, why the fuck did this bitch genuinely decide to have sex on stream if she can't handle the fallout from it? God, women are so retarded, I'm surprised it even took people this long to figure it out.
>>112769054she is afraid of getting banned... Twitch moderation is a joke but sex on stream is bye bye account
>>112769054Careful youre gonna piss off the one retard who keeps samefagging himself hard trying to gaslight that nothing happened
>>112769122>me when I cum so hard I nearly pass out on stream
>>112764575I don't know if she did or did not and i don't care enough to watch the VOD but it is strange that it happend right after some anon got asshurt she doesn't like NSFW art of herself
>>112769785Why does she use a vtuber model with a completely slutty design then?
>>112764953$40 to talk to an indian*
>>112769856She likes being a slut but not too much in the open. Retarded take but what did you expect from her, seriously
>>112768334Actual soul crushing NTR doesn't sell because it's no longer porn since it makes most men go limp. The majority of NTR is about corrupting and stealing a woman from a weak, usually dumb guy who either can't satisfy the girl or doesn't value her. The reader is supposed to identify with the guy stealing/taming the girl and making her fall to the pleasure he gives her, not the cuck bf/husband. Actual cuck hentai (but not the soul crushing NTR one) is its own sub-genre of NTR where most of it is from the cuck's POV who takes pleasure in his wife getting fucked by another man. Most NTR consumers aren't into that.Sometimes even in regular NTR you're shown at the end that the bf/husband being cucked does get off to it. So, that way you're told that you don't have to feel guilty about stealing his girl because he was a degenerate bitch anyway. Unlike the bull who will not stand for some guy stealing his woman.
I just don't understand people whose thoughts revolve about NTR 24/7, it's alien to me
>>112769899real NTR is when the bull fucks the cuck in front of the girl
>>112769863It's amazing how many think whores aren't contracting all the text messaging to some third world
>>112769856Woman."Don't sexualize my tight wet pussy" is a rather common joke because this kind of thing is surprisingly common. Every so often you see women posting their asses on social media then getting mad about getting attention from men.
>>112769938I read that ntr doujin recently, where the gyaru guy cucked the protagonist, but then gyaru guy turned into gyaru girl, and the cucked guy made her his, and gloated to his ex gf/crush. That was pretty fun that's about it for me with NTR desu, I can't get off to it, unless NTR is just a premise, which often time it's just cheating and not NTR, despite being tagged as suchMy first exposure was Ratats story about some college CF slut, and I never liked since then, tried a few times, because I saw good art, but I'd get limp immediately as it would get to cucking part.
>>112764830Sending this to the IRS :)Enjoy an audit, bitch
>>112769972They like looking sexy because it boosts their self-esteem and self-worth, since it implies men would go to any extremes if they find them hot enough. It gives them a sense of power. But at the same time they don't like being blatantly sexualized (especially by ugly men, i.e, most men who watch vtubers) because it means they're being reduced to nothing but an object to satisfy men's lust.
>>112764575Don't know who that Menace bitch is, but after watching all the relevant timestamps from the stream, I must say it's all bs and cuck fantasies. HOWEVER, as I didn't know Deme before the drama, some anons showed me OTHERS vods and clips where it's OBVIOUS something is happening.
>>112765242Ironmouse
>>112770084I'm surprised more vtubers DON'T get secretly fucked on stream. There is a pretty big market for that. It might not fly on youtube, but Twitch is much more lenient with this kind of degeneracy as long as they can maintain some plausible deniability.
>>112770084Got vod names and timestamps? Or just the clips? Curious to see for myself now.
>>112770160as a proud porn addict, I would pay good money to have actual porn vids with any of the HoloEN-ID, Doki, Mint, or any of the ex-Vshojo girls getting it behind the avatar with full voice.
>>112770160Twitch isnt cool with Vtubers man they always target them for retarded reasons that many fleshtubers do the same but dont get punished. But yeah Deme is doing good damage control and her fans gaslighting themselves. She should be fine.Now on her next stream I wanna see more of this freaky shit. She might aswell go all the way. Her most loyal fans are too retarded to see shes literally getting fucked
>>112770486I think she will be careful next stream, because she will talk about the situation nonstop.
>She didn't get fucked on stream, trust me! -other retarded whoreVery compelling argument.
>>112764695Deme, Crelly, Numi, Yuzu...they all do it though.
>>112770680Yeah trust the whore that “loves men” so much she paywalls content over 4 platforms to squeeze as much money from them as she can, when she could do it all on 2
>>112766921That’s because he’s black and western nations worship black degeneracy. I’m not saying the same standards apply to men and women obviously, but the reason he didn’t get punished at all is because it would’ve been “racist”.
>>112771488She's doing something right considering how hard her fans are up in arms for her
>>112771826Her fans pay for subs on 4 platforms. Literal brain dead coomers
>>112772028+buying ALL her merch and sponsored products+paying $10 per message to chat with their waifu('s manager). The kinegoys are insane.
>>112772092Holy shit imagine the salt.>pay on 4 different platforms to support your oshi>pay an extra 10$ to have your oshi message you and feel good>think its all real>youre watching live as she gets railed and realize she will never fuck youMakes sense why theyre out in full force
>donates $10>menace-sama, would it be okay for me to message you about my work outs? I wouldn't want to over step or a-anything...>rajesh replies with this >>112764830>anon thinks this is good enough to post on veeteegrim
>Aloe used to talk about getting fingerbanged and railed by her bf and how good he was at it>Hoshikawa gets fem-raped by Gundou on stream>Somehow a fat chink literal who streamer getting railed by a russian drug dealer is the talk of the town I swear /vt/ pretend JP girls are innocent but will dredge up EN skanks for no reason
retard
>>112764575I never thought she was getting fucked. I just enjoyed perpetuating the story because she's a fucking retard who couldn't grasp the concept of the Streisand effect when it came to getting pissy about her lewd art. I love when that happens.
>>112774463Now thanks to this we have more lewd art shame that most of it is ai-slop
>>112764575>Meance cuck opinion Back to tingles with you
>>112774463>lying and spreading defamations that can impact sponsorships because you didn't like her opinion about lewd art And you like to virtue signal about how much better you are and how many whores there are now and days on vt right?
>>112764730you are painfully midwit in the brain
>>112764575I'm gonna bend Necro over.
>>112775135Hey Deme. Should have just ignored the the handful of lewd art on your timeline, you fucking spastic retard.
>>112777409Lol I don't have to have to agree with you. Go back to Twitter if you can't come up with an argument.
>>112764575This woman (Deme) is not my oshi, therefore how is it a "cuck headcanon"
>>112764575anon, the purpose of this psyop was to normalize the IDEA of girls getting plapped plapped/getting pregant during livestreams.whether or not she was getting plapped plapped/getting preganant, it doesn't matter, because now vtubers like cotton tail, lld.nightmare, and other vtubers will go out of their way to actually make it so, because, of the positive reception of the IDEA do you understand? this is how they push the boundaries, but testing the waters first, then moving forward with the plan if the reception is good.
>>112777409hey, leave the retard alone, she wasn't spastic, she was just gooncerned
>>112764575Isn't Menace mentally ill or a grifter or something? I've heard some people say negative things about her from time to time but I don't know much about her.
>>112764996did you seriously come here and think any of us would defend that night media plant?
>>112765422What did she say about them?
>>112764830>>112764930>>112765080Anyone going to post her 3d streams, what to see how the nipples look in motion
>>112766796What's this site?
>>112779293She just farms the morons throwing money at her. She is constantly opening new paywall content. Up to 4 now sites with $10 paid messages for her bf to reply to you. So at 3-4 messages a week probably $250 per month per moronic viewer
>>112766576You're supposed to insert as the woman 2bh
>>112781405If for some reason they sub to twitch AND YouTube then it’s actually 5. So yeah she really “cares” about men. Absolutely isn’t just their money
>>112769938Yeah, but not from the cuck's perspective but from the bull's or even the girl's.
>>112764695You know she's playing Outer Wilds, right? It's a really good game. Moaning is a perfectly natural reaction.
>>112779293She just has a dedicated group of antis. Disproportionately big compared to other chuubas that do the same thing.
>>112764830Sorry anon but its not uncommon for these type of creators to offshore fan interaction to cheap countries like the phillipines.I DO hope its not the case
>>112784021>>112764830Sourcehttps://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cq571g9gd4lo
>>112764830She cares a lot about her audience's money
>>112766408*hysteria
Damage control from her discord simps and other v-whores is in full swing eh?
>>112784523Things like these break my fantasy and make me realize v-tubers are total whores behind a 2d avatar.
>>112764830>The misandrist whore with a boyfriend cares about her fan so much that you need to send her 10 bucks for message and is totally her replying to you and not either her boyfriend or Rajesh from the slums of Mumbai also phase out of nowhere Do goyim really?
>>112784523Total Nico Love
>>112765531Tell your oshi to repeal the birthright citizenship and do something regarding Jews and the amount of scams from jeets and bullheads
>>112783262It has nothing to do with antis. She posts different content on 5 different sites with a paywall on each. Who the fuck would be ok with that except the most pathetic of simps?
>>112785149patreon, fansly, rplay and what else?
>>112785302 (me)>>112785149patreon for normal asmr - 5 bucks a month rplay for loli/shota asmr and gaming - 3 bucks a monthfansly for irl webcam stuff and pics - 10 bucks a month.18 bucks totalYou have chuubas that have higher priced tiers on rplay alone, not the mention fansly.Get a job.
>>112764575>As an expert in getting fucke- I mean, 'in lewd' lol these ewhores dude
>>112771255what... amazing group you have here. Bruh, You are twist it so bad.
>>112764575retard
>>112764575>as an expert in lewdCan this retarded bitch shut the fuck up? She pretended to be a fucking angel till like 2 years ago. The fuck you mean "expert" lmao
>>112787584Keep seething lewdness nooblet, shed mog your gay amateur gooner ass any day.
Has any chuubas ever REALLY had sex on stream? Because it would be really sexy if it ever actually happened.
>>112764575Are you still talking about Deme??This vtuber’s been talked about for days.Are people still talking about this vtuber?This creep?That is unbelievable.I can’t believe you’re asking a question on deme at a time like this,when we’re having some of the greatest success,and also tragedy with saba and filian.It just seems like a desecration.
>>112787652yes, but don't ask me her name, ask in tingles.
>>112787754>ask in tinglesNever mind then, not worth it
>>112765531>donald john trump>donald: world ruler>john: God has given>trump: to triumph over>still loses to iranlol, your oshi is a liar and a war criminal
>>112787635bruh you probably think that pussy has no taste
>>112764996>Is he having sex too?with kirshe yes
>>112784863You do realize that the vast majority of Phase members who live in the states would lose their citizenship, right?
>>112764575>Menace can tell if sex is happening or notOh you don't say? Nice to know that she doesn't mind her viewers knowing they are cucks now.
>>112787920Why are you entertaining old world ESL savages?
>>112784656>according to the strict law of the torah>cites the talmud and extra rabbinical writings, not even from prophets or what's in the tanakhlol, jews are silly little guys, i cant even hate them they're so silly
>>112788479Gotta love how Mizrachi believes that like 95% of Jews are basically goyim (he's right btw)
>>112787965>Old world savages >Muttistan Also he's right
>>112787840Kirsche and Pippa are cuckqueans for Asmongold.
>>112789108>Doesn’t deny the ESL partWay to tell on yourself, shouldn’t you be preparing your pagpag dinner by now?
>>112789208I'm not the lumi poster but you can't deny he's right
>>112789540>Agree to the fact that they should do something about all kind of brownoids and bugman abusing the birthright citizenship and all the Indian/somalian scam>"HA NICE TRY JEW THE FACT THAT THIRD WORLDERS CAN ABUSE THIS THING IS GLORIOUS AND YOU CAN SEETHE ABOUT IT"
>>112787937kek
>>112787937She could fuck someone on stream and they would pretend it didn't happen desu, she has them on a tight leash.
>>112789208>ESL>pagpagEnglish is their official language, muttanon
>>112790111get some help
>>112790111If this thread is anything to go by, you're probably right
>>112790147Don't forget to pay her on 5 different platforms, so Rajesh can respond to you with a cutesy message. You can just ask anons to do it for free
>>112790246Again. What 5?
>you think the lie about this person is stupid, so you must be a supporter of the personman I can see why witch hunts were a thing in the middle ages, normies get riled up into a mob for no reason SO easily
>>112790308Fansly, Twitch, Rplay, Patreon, sorry, you are right, it's 4+fee for messaging her lmao
>>112791340You forgot her Throne
>>112791351Well it's not like you get any content from throne right? It's more like you are funding what you are already paying for. Or play pretend boyfriend by buying her perfume/clothes/woman shit.
>>112791382and do you get exclusive content from her twitch?
>>112791382>play pretend boyfriendThat's exactly what they do and that's why they're cucks
may I see the footage
>>112765063This is a joke mousepad right? kek
>>112791396Good question, I don't know, I only check her YouTube for ASMR, but I mean if you are subbing to patreon and fansly, and pay moneys to message her, you are subbing to her twitch most likely to support her. Doesn't look like she streams often on YouTube and Twitch though, so most of her content is paywalled?
We of the farms side with Deme
>>112791546Well, most of her content is paywalled now because of youtube fucking with asmr channels in general. That other anon was talking about 5 sites of paywalled content, but I guess he can't even count properly.Her patreon is +- 5 bucks, which is cheap. Her rplay is even cheaper at 3 bucks. To give you some perspective, some chuubas have 40 bucks tiers or even 250 bucks.On rplay, Zenya has 10/20/40 dollars tiers, Cera 5/15/250, denpa 5/50/150. On fansly cotton has 5/15/25/35/63/89/100/168 dollars tiers, silvervale 26/37/112 dollars,fefe 7/15/50/100.You get the idea.Menace has one tier on fansly (10 bucks), one tier on rplay (3 bucks) and 2 tiers on patreon (one for +- 5 dollars that gives you access to all her asmr) and one with additional pics for 10 dollars. It's +- 18 dollars for all her content across 3 websites, but sure, menace is the money hungry one here. (I'm not shitting on anyone mentioned here).
>>112791477
>>112791834Not reading all that nigger
>>112764575>menhera defends another menherawagons be a-circlin'
>>112768334>because NTR is the top selling tag in most doujinshi sites.it isn't. weird place to try to throw this fanfiction in, but myth busted.
>>112769785>thousands of people who disagree with me are all the same personhow embarrassing for you.
>>112792414It's like some shit fags tried to push years ago /here/ on multiple boards, it's a really dumb thing to say, how about you that every non-NTR work with non-NTR tag, them you will see which actually sells more.NTR tag can wary from non existent to giga cuckery, same way non-NTR can range from missionary vanilla to bdsm fart farming.
>menaces pajeets found the threadtime for more discourse about how mousepads are supposed to be viewed from behind,
>>112791834Says, "iirc" on something that could be found in like 1 minute. This guy is a lazy fuck for sure.
>>112791942It's fairly decent, I guess I'd say she even has good pricing, but additional spendings and such, I still stand by "tight leash" post, especially when you have gfe related spendings, like additional tier of patreon, throne, personal messages. I wouldn't be surprised if super piggies get something on top of that, like if you spend $250 on throne or messaging her, do you really believe she won't even reward that piggy to make sure he stays? I'm not talking about sexual stuff, but rather gfe/affirmation/appreciation.I doubt a lot $18 fags go around and argue and protect her, they are there to goon. Same way how I don't think of her much as a person, but still enjoy her ASMR from time to time. Other whores have crazy prices, I remember checking out Necoma, and thought, do I really want to pay $25 for a hoe to moan in my ears? I guess not.
>>112791834Also you don't 'side with Deme', you just don't like the guy. Be honest.
How is it that everyone went to shitting on her on Twitter to the most shill defense ever?
>>112792674Probably was crying on Discord and now the guys that would be willing to T3 for a sniff are out to prove their undying loyalty.
>>112791942Do you also pay 10 dollars to thank her for cucking you?
>>112792723It odd she went from getting ratioed too 25k likes of "thanks for the support" tweets
>>112792674There aren't that many people defending her, it's just everyone who shat on her moved on, or got "infantilized", like she is a stupid whore, but at this point I just laugh at her being retarded, and don't really care about being or try to be mean to her.
>likes vidya>extroverted>vtuber>fat ass>cute chubby figure>cute face (good for creampies)>kinky>likes semen on heroh my lord, deme is sooooo hot
>>112792777what did she tell you about your cuck fantasies anon?
>>112792661it's confirmed if you spend over 300 dollars on her she turns of the 10 dollar per dm price and lets the parasocialness grow even more so. Someone was bragging about it in tingles because of course it would be a poster here doing that shit.
So how does she actually look?
>>112792833>>112792884Nice freudian slip retard
>>112792895Makes sense, well here you go, I don't know how true it is, but I beleeb it
>>112792945happens. Doesn't change the fact that she told you that if you offed yourself nothing in her life would change.
>this deme schizo has now made a thread on /gif/ of all places and also decided to include that half decade year old ollie getting fingered on stream clip toojesus christ seek help you fucking mongoloids
>>112792969Who is this supposed to be in reference to?
>>112793012/gif/ had deme sex months ago, anon.
>>112793015pretty much all the people with cuck fantasies
HOLY FUCKING SHIT, I just saw all the fucking timestamps and the vod... yeah this bitch was getting fucking railed.I thought only Ollie was retarded enough to get fingerbanged on stream, but this bitch takes teh cake
>>112793039>cuck fantasies>is a fansly whoreThis has to be the most feminine response you've given
>>112793130is she getting fucked by someone on fansly? No? Then yes, it is in your head and you have a cuck obsession
>>112793039>>112793130>>112793015Anons please, it's an exhibition fetish! Sure you're only watching as someone else fucks her but that doesn't make you a cuck :)
>>112793169damn, you're really hallucinating streams now
Any chances the bitch deletes the vod or edits it? i saved it anyways so meh, but I still want to know why is it still there
>>112793160Are you her? Pretending to be a gfe chuuba then ignoring half of your paypiggies' tributes is some low blow cuckholdry even for you
>>112793266there we go lol, faggot got ignored and is mad
>>112793230I don't think you can edit them on yt, without reupload, and it would be a dumb move.
>>112793290You're the only one seething here lol
>>112793266>ignoring half of your payliggies' tributesShe is doing them a favor if you think about it tributes or are we talking about tributes?
>>112792505"Not NTR" is not a tag. If the absence of a tag counted for rankings, "not shitting dick nipples" would be the top tag, and if you're developing something, you game should have absolutely no content, after all there's no tag that sells more than works that don't have that tag.Now, if you're in the real world and count only useful data, NTR was the top selling tag in DLsite until last year, when it was beat by submissive male. This doesn't mean it's better than anything else or that most people are NTR fans, just that NTR had the most return out of all tags. And due to that, some authors would slap on some lazy NTR scenario to whatever they wanted to draw hoping it would increase sales.
>>112793343no u
>>112792848Yeah, she could have gone the CottontailVA route and be famous without any drawbacks, yet she larps as a fucking virgin
>>112793371but that's my point, NTR is so diverse, might as well do a Vanilla tag, because main difference between guro bdsm NTR and guro bdsm Vanilla will be cuckening aspect, that won't be the main point of the dojin, the guro bdsm would be.>top selling tagThat's exactly what I'm talking about, it encompasses too many things. If you slap lazy NTR scenario on your vanilla dojin, then it'll count towards NTR tag, but opposite doesn't happen because Vanilla/non NTR is not a tag and will never be.You can't say NTR is the most popular thing, when "vanilla"/non NTR isn't accounted for, because it doesn't have a designated tag, it's a flawed list.
>>112793349Cum tributes, her fans frequently complain about not getting seen/read on fansly because she puts out posts about how she's been masturbating to them
>>112792848Chubby figure? She's morbidly obese. Watchhttps://youtu.be/N-8FVrPxxDU?t=853
>>112793591They should try paying more, since they are already halfway there.
>>112793634True lolOr maybe they just like feeling cucked who knows
>>112793230There's a chance she will because she's a woman, but the smart move would be to leave it up since it has all the proof needed that whoever thinks she's getting railed on stream is a far-gone gooner.
>>112793575First, vanilla is a tag in DLsite. It has a specific meaning, and it doesn't beat NTR.Second, yes you retard, NTR is a broad tag that gets applied by a lot of shit where it barely counts. That's my initial point, a lot of NTR is just other kind of content, usually mind break or corruption, with an extra page slapped in to count as the best selling tag. Actual hard NTR, the kind that ruins your day and makes you wish you could unread things, is surprisingly rare because most doujinshi writers can't write for shit.
>>112793876>It has specific meaningCome on, you know exactly what I fucking meant, stop playing dumb.>bicycles are the the most popular means of transportation >if we don't count any other transport Just stop being fucking retarded.
>>112794073But we are counting other form of transportation. Vanilla is a tag. It means one on one sex, usually romantic. It still doesn't beat NTR.There are works that are not ntr but are not vanilla either. A gangbang isn't vanilla, but not necessarily ntr either.If 40% of the population used bicycles, 35% used cars and 25% walked, bicycles would be the most used method of transportation, even if 60% of the people don't use bicycles.
>>112764575First menace L i have ever seen
>>112765242kaneko lumi
