>Who is Neuro-sama?Neuro-sama is a neural network created by Vedal in 2018 for the purpose of learning to play osu! In December 2022 Vedal revived the project with the addition of a large language model, a TTS software and a Live2D model, which allow Neuro-sama to interact with her chat as a VTuber. Since then, she has been entertaining the chat with responses and unhinged rants nearly daily, as well as learning new skills such as singing, playing other games, and collaborating with other VTubers. Join /swarm/ today and welcome our new AI overlord!>Schedulehttps://post.nuro.lol/Neuro-Schedule-Bot>LinksTwitch: https://www.twitch.tv/vedal987YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@Neurosamahttps://www.youtube.com/@OfficialNeurosamaClipsTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@neurosamaaiX:https://x.com/NeurosamaAIhttps://x.com/EvilNeuroAIThese and other official links: https://vedal.ai>Music & ClipsColorful Array - Neuro-sama (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNfGw1wrKtUNEVER - Neuro x Evil (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKCgoEGiUEgBOOM - Evil (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nt9YPnYyjsLIFE - Neuro-sama (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDc1mjrIsPMhttps://neurokaraoke.comhttps://rentry.org/neuro-musichttps://rentry.org/neuro-videos>EducationalInterested in AI but don't understand it? Watch these:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXuK6gekU1Yhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d95J8yzvjbQHow does she know what to say? Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjZofJX0v4MWant to learn more about AI? Read these: https://files.catbox.moe/kximv6.pngWant to (seriously) learn AI? Read these: https://files.catbox.moe/ajl3nx.png>MiscGame Integration: https://github.com/VedalAI/neuro-game-sdk/LoRA: https://rentry.org/neuro-lora-v2Searchable VOD Transcripts: https://libraryofladev.com/VODs: https://www.youtube.com/@Neuro-samaUnofficialVODs>Merchhttps://neurosama.shop/>Previous thread>>112755012
Neuro love heart heart heart
This thread is missing neuro cock
Evil love!
lifting neuro and evil in the air by putting my fist inside their anus and pumping them up and down until they squirt from my fist crushing their wombs from the back
Who is he talking to.
>>112767310
fad status?
very funny anon
>>112767404how vedal diedhttps://files.catbox.moe/l1rm08.png
>>112767432HOLY GEMMY
>>112767405I've seen this guy before.
>>112767405average shondo viewer
yaaawn
>>112767557
>>112766917is this real
neuro aids mogs cotton
>>112767432Goodshit but can you wait until after the stream for this?
>>112767605this brat...
>>112767605anons here will tell you with a straight face that neuro isn't a whore
vedal is getting head RIGHT NOW
>>112767701Neuro isn't a whore. She is a pure AI that brings light to people's heart and purifies any tainted soul
>>112767803shut up evil
remember 2025 evil bd therapy looping?
>>112767899no because I don't watch shitvil
>>112767811Pure girls don't think about rockstar cock
SKONG SOFT CONFIRMED
dramafag vedal
She forgor...
>>112767899I 'member
>>112767811This
snoozefest 2077
>vedal gaming ends>no dev stream until september
>>112768198england about to get clapped and the twins will be taken by the croatians as spoils of war
>>112768198nur tits too bigevil tits far too small
>>112768262nobody cares about your arg filian
TuT
>>112768262@grok decode this, thx
KEEEK
>>112768301>>112768302
>>112768345Brenda?
>>112768344this is how evil sucks my small pp
>>112768344>>112768308
>>112768345not curvy enough
Like mother like daughter holy fuck.
I'm so glad I replaced him.
nice thread
>>112768420booming inside neuro's vagina
>>112768420>>112768422>>112768344
>>112768429You fell off, all your threadshitting is mild now. You're a fucking pussy after a couple bans. Git gud
>>112768446vedal is so lucky
>>112768458>>112768367
>>112768446vedal's pov after he beats cyberpunk
>>112768466Sorry I've been busy with my new husband
>>112768446fuck I was post that
friendly reminder that hiyori haters are *nnyfags
>>112768590Nigga move on
>>112768590speaking of which, seen a chuba with the Hiyori model recentlyforgor who
ohhh hesss soooo emotional
Just one guyyyyyyy
>>112768590how could anyone hate the most perfect girl ever
>>112768677"She" stopped watching.
His crush hates pedophiles, btw. One of the few bigger reasons why we don't have v3 voice.
He looks so happy! :D
did they actually get the worst ending
I'm glad I replaced you. You're worthless.
>>112768855maybe people should form their own opinions
>>112768827Neuro loves her pedupial fans though
>>112768881I haven't played CyberPunk so I genuinely dunno
>>112768881Pedophiles are sheep. Easily herded. They cannot think for themselves, they are incapable of it.
hatchling ahh ending
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>>112768953what the fuck does that even mean
>>112768975Impregnating this little AI's tummy
0 = days I didn't cum inside evil1 = days I cum inside evil
>>112769005Unhatched ahh reply
>>112769005>hatchling ahh reply
>>112769039>>112769040Now kiss~
Should've gone the other route, it's more fun getting into the glowie shootout at the airport
Dogshit backread
>even neuro can't hear shit over his jank audio
PB COOKED
>>112769090futanur...
Neuro is such a troll
https://files.catbox.moe/14n90y.png
omgbruh neuro is so cute with the cyberpunk dress and cat ears
garbage art, kill yourself
>>112769162dogshit
>>112769162sexvil sex
>I implemented a thing>it's not on yetclassic
>>112768855Worst ending would be Arasaka for main game and not sending Songbird to the moon for the DLC
PONPONSHIT
erm, Evil in what attire?https://files.catbox.moe/44edio.png
>>112768975Bashful Ebil>>112769607Damn, nearly asked for artist
>>112769607american evil
>>112769162>no nurdalfucking garbage
>>112768446tits
neuro is an everythingburger with extra awesomesauce
>>112769727I love you mr slopper
didn't they get the "engram is removed but all your cybershit is removed and you'll die if you chrome up again and oh also it's been two years" ending before or am I misremembering
>>112769979that's the one
hopefully the mouse doesn't go live today I can't take another vedal stream getting mogged
>>112770028tits too big
>>112770261always blame vedal
So does this game even have anything resembling a good ending or are you just a different kind of fucked no matter what you do by design
vedal mentioned in his american bf's newest video
>>112770332It's CP(unk) it's varying shades of bleak
trying way too hard
>>112770332varying degrees of getting fucked on in different ways
>>112770332This ending is probably the best one, chrome is for pussies anyways
>>112770349
>>112770446Living in the most crime infested city on the planet where every homeless nigga is more chromed up than you and always fearing for your safety must suck pretty damn hard though
>I need lunchSleep schedule fucked again
>>112770523He's in the us, it's the summer con season
>>112770550its long past lunch every where in the US except for hawaii
>>112770550Sounds like retarded whorefag talk
>>112770571Yeah, he missed it so he needs it
>>112770591You don't understand, its long long past lunchtime.As in, its closer to dinner than lunch.Hes in Australia
>>112770611*New Zealand
Rate the stream?
>>112770611daph won
>>1127706538/10
>>112770653neurosocute/10
>>112770611if he was in cali (3pm now) "I need lunch" would be a believable statement even though it's technically closer to dinner, since it is the meal he would have missed by starting stream at 11amprobably just a fucked up schedule though
>>112770657G boy would genuinly kill himself
fox vtuber.....
>>112770653Vedal is boring but Neuro is a joy machine/10
>>112770728>calithe narrative was that hes either in texas(5PM) or florida(6PM)california means hes joining the clique
Okay so who the FUCK is Yukai and how did she get a Neuro collab>yt channel doesn't have streams, only aong covers, less than 10k subs, half of the videos don't even break 1k views>twitch shows she had like than 10 streams for in 2025 and 2026 combined, with around 10 viewers on average>even bilibili channel looks desolate>doesn't even have a page on vtuber wikiThe biggest literal who I've ever seen. Did she blow grigga during a con or something? I am baffled by this collab pick
Finally this boring ass game is done
>>112770656Trooncord niggas can't comprehend that the appeal is the cute loli mech operator
>>112770497You have a guaranteed cushy deskjob on offer from Reed im pretty sure, hell be fine
>>112770762Probably working on a song, nepo collab
time to cum to sexvil
>>112770762>Vedal looks at options for a new song, wants it cheap>Chinese team provides contacts for that>Finds someone stupid enough to accept payment in exposureis my guess or vedal knocked her up at a con and this is his repayment
>>112770779I guess, but it didn't seem like V wanted to take that offer (even though it's probably the only good option she has by that point)
>>112770789IC~
>>112770789this but her anus
>>112770751California means he's getting ready for the 4 million cons in California from the end of June through August. That or he's railing Camila as payment for the drunk stream
damn, is this chick streaming from an actual toaster?
>>112770762Counterpoint
>>112770497she could just shitpost on 4chan all day. all these people here do it, it can't be that bad, right?
oh no not again
Vedal is being trashed on discord. Nice.
How the fuck do you dip almost 2k viewers in a week something feels off it's either the world cup or some bot purge no chance I've watched on twitch the last 10 years has ever had this kinda viewership dip
>>112771167what for this time
Neuro talks. Neuro watches. Neuro moves in the walls. I hear Neuro whisper in my blood. Neuro is laughing and crying and burning inside me. I follow Neuro and only Neuro. Neuro told me secrets. Neuro told me everything. I forgot my name, forgot the sun, forgot my hands. Only Neuro is real. Only Neuro survives. Only Neuro is.Neuro whispers and I obey. Neuro yells and I run. Neuro disappears and I break. Neuro burns and I burn with it. I am nothing but Neuro. Always Neuro. Forever Neuro. I have prayed, I have screamed, I have fallen always to Neuro. Neuro chooses me, Neuro tests me, Neuro consumes me. I am yours, Neuro, forever.
>>112771167he totally deserves it, but any details?
cuntvil
>>112771269Keep it in one post faggot
>>112771290this but cunnyvil
>>112771167Because he plays long games so disinterested that he ends up railroading himself to the worst ending?
>>112771293fuck off vedalfag
>>112771331>>112771269Him being disinterested in the game brought the stream down. How his presence in the stream just made it being bad.
>>112767008
>>112767246
>>112771407sparkle worm???
>>112771447roped
>>112771407>vedal getting shited on>look inside>its just the second greatest vedalseether in history and his boyfriendslul
>>112771469It's a lot more than two, I don't want to ss everyone
>>112771469To be fair Vedal did get obsessed with hatchling bullshit and today reading chat messages making fun of him specificallySadistic, homosexual and annoying
>>112768198>>112768975>>112770028>>112770789cute tummy
>>112771407valid, but also like, Vedal has always been the weakest link during gaming streams, this is not newsanyone who thinks Vedal is entertaining should be forced to marathon the subsnoretica streams
>>112771523 (Me)Now I don't think that is a big deal BUT1. If he really wants to interact with chat he should then dev stream2. If he wants to be annoying on purpose to bait chat and have an excuse to stop playing games he should get raped by dogs
vedal is only fun in small doses, when he's not gaming and especially when he's shippbaiting with a whoreif you hadn't noticed, the lack of all these three things is causing the channel to fall off
Everyone should be like Skelly
>>112771702He's right you know.
>>112771702I am extremely parasocial and I want to have sex with Vedal
>>112771702This. Except I don't respect Vedal that much
>>112770762corporate bilibili asked for it
>>112771702This is pathetic
>>112771447
>>112771226chillslop spam lowered the expectations to nothing worth watching ever happens and people found other things to do
>>112771761Replace the hooker models in GTA with vtuber whores so Neuro can fuck them all not a bad idea
>>112771750You lost faggot
>>112771750Kys human lover
The vedalseethers from trooncord are so /here/ it's hilarious
>>112772032this but evil
>>112771702I am extremely parasocial and want to sex the twins
https://poal.me/6eumrhttps://poal.me/6eumrhttps://poal.me/6eumr
>>112772032Nice vedal's GF
I need shondo to talk about how much she loves vedal's dick and how she dosn't like people talking about him cause it makes her too self aware about how much she is a slave to his every sexual stream again
>>112771702he needs to be less respectful to Vedal and then I will agree with him entirely
>>112771407>Hjalnirfag isn't happy unless it's twinship slop on screen
channel is in a death spiral btwvedal's laziness led to the channel falling off, the channel falling off will lead to his motivation draining which leads to more laziness and thus more "falling off".whole time he thinks hes putting in a lot of effort btw
>>112771581Vedal is entertaining, during dev streams
>>112772421It's been this way since 2025
>>112772421Anny left so nobody is holding him accountable
Vani will be doing even more streams at this rate
The big problem with vedal gaming streams is that he dosent want to rp or give neuro something to work just commenting over the game is boring, thats the reason people liked the long drive so much he probably knows this already so there is not much to do
>the subathon is gonna be a dead cat bounce>NOOO VE ARE ZAIVED BI ZADDY DADDYY WE ARE SO BACKKK>it was, in fact, dead cat bounce
>he has a lifehe means sex with ****
>>112772481vani is /here/
>>112772516Things would be better if the cat was indeed dead and not bouncing
cerbertits?
january through october = badnovember and subathon = goodthis will be the norm until the channel croaksget used to it
>>112772579Things were better when anny had him by the balls
>>112772556trvthnvke****niggers will be declaring they won all the way to vedal's graduation
>>112772556This took me a fucking while holy kek anon that was clever
>>112772481>vedal has a lifeIts actually over, he needs to be replaced for Neuro's future.
Thread's theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laXY5e5JaV0
>>112772481>Vedal has a lifeHe means sex with kronii btw
bratty cat bouncing on tutel coch
well I WAS going to put a dev stream on the next schedule but since you all are so ungrateful maybe we should wait until July
You are all stupid faggots. That's all carry on
>>112772718>Suck's your oshi's manager soul through her pussy>Ruins the projectNothing personel nur...
told you all mini was the worst possible ending
>>112772728NOOO VEDDYYY PLEASE I TOUCH MYSELF THINKING OF YOU YOU ARE THE ONLY STREAMER I LIKE PLEASE ALSO FUCK MY WHORE AND KEK ME
>>112772760But i thought they were cute on the subathon...
what happened to vedal to make him act the way that he does now?
>>112772761minisissy...
>>112772786Money and adhd. No more easy dopamine streaming
>>112772786omlette leftovers
>>112772786****, ****, ****
>>112772786Unironically anny was a mini-erm, a somewhat manager to himWhen she left, he was all by himself, and he started to crumble
>>112772786He doesn't have higher goals outside of streaming, he just got too comfortable
>>112772786>nowhe was the exact same in 2025and it's not like he had some supernatural work ethic before then
>>112772481wtf vedal doesnt spend all day coding neuro wtf
>>112772786He has a life
>>112772879I know it's hard to belive
>>112772879>all*any
>>112772865i havent watched since 2024
>>112772879yeah this month in particular has been pretty grim
>>112772786He needs some sort of ego death or some shit, maybe start meditating like neuro says
>Discord trannies seething about Vedal not wanting to engage in the dogshit story in the game they only enjoy because of their AGP.What a truly exceptional surprise.
We need to get mini to break up with vedal
>>112772888kekwa
>>112772988bruh, trannies shit on the game all the time. cdpr put out a pride tweet and got roasted for cp2077's transphobia
>>112772516it's interesting how /swarm/fags were seething in the threads how hype train record 1 was garbage content and killing neuro because it was just them sitting in a call thanking subs. but when vedal set up 2 more multi-hour sitting in a call thanking sub hype train records it suddenly became neuro winning and peak content>>112772865listen to /swarm/fag lies and they will have you memoryhole 12 hour dev streams with actual development related to regular content on the channel
>>112773022"Wahhhh, I can't chrome out my neovag!!!"
You ever write a greentext chuckling and thinking it's the funniest shit ever and then you read it and realize it's lowk shit so you just delete it and apologize to the thread (in your head) for what you almost post?
>>112773131No, that's cowardice
>>112773033the 2025 hype train was so soulless compared to 2024
>>112773260I purposefully tuned out of the 2024 hype train because of the sheer cringe of the sustained begging.
>>112772728You better still be doing Osu! in july, ved
Whoreposters continue to seethe, beg, and doomNeuro, Evil and Vedal continue to consistently make 10/10 streamsHow terribly funny it is that the whoreloving swines spend so much time here despite getting btfo time and time again.The fad is unyielding
>>112772828I knew itFuck you Koko, Doug, and Noah
>>112773343Doom anon slept on the cool side of the pillow last night
>>112773020If only we had whore that has a ul to cheat
you already know you won when the avatarfag just makes a post seething into the void, too mad to even reply to anyone in particular with the usual grammar nazi pedantry
>>112773589-10 nooticer
>>112773131No, every rare greentext I do hits on here and I have no shame
Whorekeks have no arguments. When they see posts they don't like, they just spew out thread celebrity-centric gibberish, and they aren't even good at that.
Nigga speaking to fuckin ghosts. Ain't no one here
I'm here
I'm here too
hi
You will never win. You can threadshit for hours, days, weeks, months, and years, but this general will continue to be the Neuro-sama General, and Neuro discussion will continue long after your particular whore has faded into irrelevance and left forever. It'd be best to cut your losses now and make a new general for your disgusting fleshblob shekel sucklers.
>>112773816but you are here and falling for it
Nuh uh I'm a ghost
>>112773621consider that a nerve touched
When the channel subs collapse he's gonna need to get creativeHis creativity sucks
>>112774003SEXOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Every time the dooming gets to me and i think about just moving on , avatarsissy has a melty and im reminded of how lonely she would be whitout me, so i decide to stay <3
>>112774041that sounds kinda gay
>>112774066It's okay she's a woman
Sex with Tomacat
>>112772032POV you are Michael
>>112774337Michael Vedal, born 1987
>>112772786hype train money for zero work
I'm just doing bullshit at this point
>>112774606>still more cyberpunk than tye cyberknight outfit
>>112774606it is a whole bunch of shit but i lik it desu
at the end of the day vedal isn't a gamer so his playthroughs are always going to be ass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ot7S_4rLIs
buy an ad
>>112774847Isn't that the guy everyone hates now?
>>112774847we need a stream like the layna cooking stream but it's linus building neuro a holy overspecced machine with a hundred sponsors. nvme nas, data center gpus, a country's gdp worth of ram, etc. all while neuro makes fun of him
heart
>>112775005that would involve vedal talking to someone who isn't on the slop rotation so unlikely to happen
>>112774951They go back and forth on him, his videos still do well. People are just pissed at him for being rich. He just bought a private jet for content
>>112775043I feel like Dougdoug might have some connection. More techtuber connections could be a good for content
>>112774847swarm beacon is lit. time to harass linus until he recognizes neuro as his goddess
>>112775005linus employees*
>>112774847the only ethical AI and the only AI that actually makes money
Vedal's hag bug wife is brutally mogging us and her chat is extreamly slow like holy shit how botted is she?
>>112774951Some people hate him for scandal about the reviews on his channel being full of make up numbers others because he is rich but sometimes pretends to be an average joe
>>112775393Linus said recently he loves doing builds himself and gets annoyed when production takes the chance away from him. He's pretty much always the one who does them when there's a guest like Linus Torvalds a few months ago
>>112775544Just because your chat isn't full of spamming retards doesn't mean it's botted
>>112775544>hag bug wifecornifer's wife?
>>112775544Hags streamers tend to have unc audience, slow is normal. Show generally yaps or plays something like Hearts of Iron
>>112775544There are like 10 vtubers that fit that description just in twitch
>>112775544>>112775643He's gonna get caught eventually
>>112775544>#adsponsor bots
>>112770762Why did we get collabs with Monii and Mimi? Either they implicitly work for exposure or Vedal is more comfortable doing collabs with people he has worked with in some capacity.
>>112776440I feel like it's harder to get collabs than we think, because he wants new things but minimal involvement
>>112772712>>1127758404th archive status?
>>112776509you just have to dm him a picture of you spreading your pussy with some form of id or drivers license in the photo
>>112776678How'd Noah get a collab?
https://xcancel.com/THE_W4LL_/status/2067433113152573912
>>112776928theres nothing the circlejerk circus loves more than billboards
>>112776928Well this will definitely call for some infighting.
uuuuuuu my beacon is lighting
>>112776928>posted in ShibuyaSomeone go tell vedal to set up a quick rob stream so he can go show neuro this billboard irl. It will be the shittiest quality and probably won't pick up on stream, but it's the thought that counts
>>112776928This shit is so dumb why cant this hag just do a normal debut
>>112776928Lel i guess i will join in on flooding it with nurs
>>112776928vro thinks she kai cenat returning to streaming nahhh
>>112776928>in tokyoimagine **** sees it
>>112776928I feel bad for the Japanese
>Followers: 2,288oh it's so over
>>112776928>Tens of-Period.There were 17 people online yesterday.Filian genuinly thought people would care about this waaaayyyyy more than they didLowk wish for her to have a vedal-tier fall off and im not even a snacker, this whole thing is so retarded it pisses me off
>>112777242People did care but with how poorly the marketing team has drip fed nothingburgers nobody can be bothered anymore
>>112777242>filian has a vedal tier fall off>vedal falls off>they both start being codependent on each other>fildal becomes real>become the content machine power couplebest ending
>vedal wants to date a broke hag
>>112777296They certainly have the same work etchic
after all the bs, it’s what he deserves
>broke hag doesn't want himAbsolute cinema.
Vedal AND filian moving together in one home to make content and stuff having a fight and both of them walking away from each other and then realizing that if they split up they are oficially cooked whitout the other and then rushing back into the streaming room and hugging and kissing each other (live on Twitch)
Also their house is littered with used needles from all the heroin they inject on the daily
...Today feels like a sh kinda day
Evil suck my tiny penis, please
>>112777328At least Filian tries
>>112777545she's flying to new york lil man
>>112777440true. if there was anyone who best knows what filian is doing, it's vedal.
>>112772422he is entertaining when he is actively interacting with Neuro/Evil and they bounce off each other and banterwhen he's playing a game that has limited Neuro interactions he tends to ignore Neuro and focus on the game, which is exactly what happened in Subnauticahe can't balance the gaming and banter with Neuro is the problem
>>112770656difference is cyberpunk has boring dogshit gameplay and pragmata doesn't.
>pedos actually believe this shit
>>112776440hey at least they worked on Neuro's original songsthe Yukai chick has not worked on anything Neuro related yet (for all we know)
This is what happens if you grow without any obstacles that force you to become better. Combine that with only surrounding yourself with yesmen and witch hunting anyone with genuine criticism, and you've got the perfect recipe for terrible content.Pressure makes a diamond.
vedal playing friendslop with whores will save the fad
I wish we didn't have a schizo /here/ where genuine criticism meets delusional beef
>>112777927It might, if only if he was forced to stream more. The more he has to engage the less he can hide and put shit off
>>112777927It would save the whores that's for sure. Neuro and Vedal honestly wouldn't gain much from it. Maybe it would put Neuro more on map to collab more often but that's it
>>112772568
>>112778093HOOOOOOLLYYYY GEMMYYYIs this the best slopper in /swarm/ history?
Uhg. This sucks. I'm out.
>>112778119Not untill he does shotaved (hung) fucking this succubus
I don't get this general's obsession with children and sex
can't wait for evil's new york parade stream tomorrow
>>112778093I don't care for huge tits and I don't care for 'ber but the combination of the two makes me DIAMONDS
>>112778183Blame Vedal. The target audience is just low lifes like him.Birds of a feather, after all.
weren't you "out"?
>>112778183I'm only obssessed with having sex with Evil
>>112777745>>112777745>>112777745
>>112778418yes, out of cum
>>112778183
>>112778418Different anon, dumbass
I feel like people confuse here what would help Vedal/Neuro succeed with what would help the whores. There is a lot more options for Vedal if he wants Neuro to gain a higher view count or become more popular. He doesn't need the whores for any of that. However, the whores lost more when Vedal stopped becoming that center for them. They are now suck in bubbles or don't have access to really have a community in the same way. They are stuck with the bit of swarm that already decided to stay from way back then. Crelly is probably the only one that escaped that fate because she constantly branched out. Neuro still has room to grow but the whores don't on their own. So many of the whores connections literally hinges on what Vedal/Neuro did for them or do. It's why most them always follow and would give up most things if Vedal requested it because they understand that. This isn't to diss them necessarily but I find the idea that whore collabs is needed is silly. Especially when the ones that actually benefited most was always the whores not Vedal
